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The Obama Bolshevik Mentality: Coup, Purge, Purify. Obama, not Democratic, Party

Obama is attempting to take control of the progressive infrastructure built over the last 15 years. Ben Smith reports that Obama is seeking to essentially shutdown outside progressive groups and funnel their funding to his campaign:

Senator Barack Obama’s campaign is steering the candidate’s wealthy supporters away from independent Democratic groups, calling into question what had been expected to be the groups’ central role in this year’s Democratic offensive against Senator John McCain.

Obama’s national finance chairwoman, Chicago hotel mogul Penny Pritzker, told supporters at a national finance committee meeting in Indianapolis May 2, and in other conversations, not to give money to the groups, people familiar with her comments said.
“From the beginning of this race Obama has told supporters that if they want to help his effort, they should do so through his campaign,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton, who confirmed that Pritzker has told donors not to give to the groups. “And he means exactly what he says.”

Many of these progressive groups were established to counter movement conservatives’ dominate infrastructure. In 1971, in a reaction against the New Left, Lewis F. Powell drafted a memo for business groups and the Nixon administration on building a conservative infrastruture to counter what he saw as an anti-capitalist, anti-freedom movement of the New Left. This plan was followed and we have had a third of a century of conservative governance, interrupted by 4 years of Carter and 8 years of Clinton.

Similarly, after what many progressives saw as an attempted coup d’état by movement conservatives against President Clinton, the left began building its own infrastructure to counter the Rush Limbaugh/American Spectator magazine/Newt Gingrich assault on our first progressive president in a generation. MoveOn.org was born as a muscular defensive of Clinton in a era where the left consisted of stale periodically like The Nation and Mother Jones.

Now Obama is seeking to use the fragile progressive infrastructure for his own electoral gain:

But in recent days, major donors have begun to conclude that Obama is serious in trying to cut off funds to the outside groups.

“It’s given donors pause,” said one prominent Democratic donor of Pritzker’s words.

Obama’s remarkably swift and complete consolidation of Democratic Party power. It’s an unprecedented seizure of control that has built him, over the course of a year, the most powerful field organization and the largest financial network in American politics, leaving many existing structures – traditional party organizations in many states, the Clintons’ long-nurtured national network – in the dust.

Outside groups, of course, can alter the electoral landscape. Just ask Michael Dukakis and John Kerry, both victims of brutal attack ads run by groups more affiliated with movement conservatives than with the campaigns themselves.

But some liberal activists argue that Obama is making a big mistake by consolidating all the power and money into his campaign:

But Democrats who support the work of the media 527s say Obama’s making a mistake. Progressive Media USA has aired anti-McCain television ads and developed a website intended to be a hub for negative information about McCain.

As I wrote previously, the Republicans and their conservative shock troops have prepared their plan to dismantle Obama, assuming he becomes the nominee. Obama may be disarming himself in his attempt to deny Hillary the nomination, and consequently we can look forward to Obama joining the pantheon of defeated Democrats: McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore [updated], and Kerry.

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/ Gloria

    A bit off topic, but I’m still steaming:

    “GUTSY Elizabeth Edwards Not Part of Endorsement–Outshines Husband in “Courage of Convictions” Department (only a week after couple tells “People” they won’t endorse)”

    http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    These progressive groups include Moveon.Org, too. I wonder how they will feel about the directive to block donations?

  • Cindy

    Senator Obama(D-Manchuria) and his campaign are the most UNDemocratic of all God’s creations.

  • Justin in Boston

    The way I see it… Obama is going to further split the party and when he loses in November, we will have a whole lot of work ahead of us to put the pieces back together or form a viable centrist third party. Leave the extremists to their own devices.

  • Karen

    This is good old Chicago politics going on here…
    the Daley’s ran Chicago like this for years, controlling all the money.

  • mimi

    Mmmmmmnnn…..

    This is beginning to assume marvelous aspects!

    Go to

    http://savagepolitics.com/?p=410

    for a scathing piece on Edwards and his endorsement. You’ll love it.

  • Mawm

    I don’t care about the Democratic Party anymore. I don’t recognize it.

  • mimi

    But are we surprised. I haven’t heard him once say he was a Democrat or anything about the Party.

  • Cindy

    Dear “some guy” (soon to star in the upcoming film “Dickless in Skeedaddle”?),
    You bet we’re worked up. Thanks for noticing!

  • Flo

    Nope, Liz wasn’t happy. But John endorsed anyway.

    I guess we know who wears the pants in that household.

  • raymo

    all the affirmative action in the world (disenfranchising 3 million voters, bogus caucuses, a Hillary hating media etc.) will not be nearly enough to make Barack Obama our next POTUS.

    sorry, some guy, but it’s not going to happen. 2 days ago he lost by 41 points to a candidate who has been pronounced dead. that’s your future right there: sweeping, humiliating loses.

  • Flo

    Not just one, but two references to “Barack Hussein Obama”! I love it!

  • typical.white.person

    The fat lady is singing for Mr. O.

    Or, if you prefer, The End of Obama’s campaign is near.

  • bamaoil

    Elizabeth, particularly if she comes out against her husband.

    But you dont understand marriage, given the shit stain IQ you carry.

    Why do I feel like I’m in the movie “Zorro, the Gay Blade?”

    Zorro’s got a knife, everyone!

    Well, when a man with a small penis needs to fight…

  • http://speaktruth speaktruth

    This is just further confirmation of the fear so many have about Obama, which is about his anti-democratic roots, ie. dislike of dissent, differences. Relates to his Unity shtick, which is opposite our system of checks and balances. He seems to want a one party system. The Obama party. Similar to Hitler party, Mussolini, Stalin. Bring everyone together, we all agree on everything, no fighting, no partisanship.
    Everyone give to him since he has all the answers about everything.
    The opposite of what Edwards said in his speech last night – about fighting special interests. Only thing Obama wants to fight is Hillary. Then get everyone to line up behind him.
    Also confirms what Matt Stoller, Bowers, have been writing about him. Very very scary – and true. And people like Edwards don’t see it.
    We need another party now – the Stop Obama party. Hillary to run as Independent. Now is perfect time for it to work. So many people do not want him. He’s taught his troops to hate Hillary and us. It’s too late for unity, and he has caused that.

  • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

    This simply surreal, trying to play it from both ends. One hand, Larry the concerned ex-CIA agent talking about country; and this headline talking about the Commies trying to take over “15 years” of “progressive infrastructure.”

    Can’t you folks even see how this doesn’t sell?

    You’re trying a kitchen sink approach that doesn’t draw what you’re seeking — the Far-Left won’t buy it, and the Far-Right will chuckle over it (especially Obamatics chucking 15 years of “liberal progressive infrastructure” — ah, the structure is still there and just got an extension!).

    The Right sees liberal, no matter how it’s being coined now. It looks at Larry as another Cambridge Five type. The independents are a skeptical lot in itself, and see the “spin” of yet another party again.

    The truth is this: remove the lipstick. Being true does more good than not, as folks will buy it better than trying to mask it with 2lbs of paint. If the public’s reaction is a slap, then you understand what does and doesn’t work.

    Every single time Dems try to paint the pig red, every single time the rest sees it as, “Commie”.

    Now let Larry report to us, in truth, the CIA intel on COMINTEL infiltration on this “progressive infrastructure” called the trade unions. Or how a Soviet spy got to be a FDR insider, only exposed 30 years later when a REAL background check would’ve revealed his dealings (remember Michael Straight, Larry?). They weren’t Republicans folks, they were Democrats. It’s this type of baggage folks see, and trying to cover it up with more partisan paint — the pig doesn’t fly.

    That 15 years of “progressive infrastructure” needs to go into the dustbin, as it’s the legacy that keeps the Dem party down. It’s full of the 20th century Cold War mess, the same mess that has brought us this Obama today.

    So, Dems, what are you fighting today? A ghost of your past. A past that partisan rhetoric won’t eliminate (or change minds), but action does. Prove to us, we’re not trying to be sold another lipsticked pig.

    That’s the Reality check.

  • workingclass artist

    “…I have sworn upon the altar of God….eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man…” Thomas Jefferson

    I AM A REFUSNIK…I REFUSE TO SUPPORT OBAMA AND HIS FASCISTS….
    Good Post Bud….

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    So Obama is going to name Claire MacCatskill as Veep?

    Interesting. I suppose that she’s a “bone” to the women?

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    LOL*….pronounced dead, huh? Funny, but you make an excellent point.

  • Dan

    He’s a product of that sort of organization—and he knows he has to publically shun them now.

  • Manu

    Obama was an apt pupil. He learned a few tricks from his master- Rezko. Money buys influence. Money is power.

    Obama has often criticized Washington elites for using money to buy elections. Now that his coffers are full, his ethical suit is empty. “But this is the people’s money,” he will say. What does it matter where the money comes from? Whether from special interest groups, lobbyist, personal wealth, the congregation, corrupt men, or deluded voters, the fact still remains that money, not principles, is what got you that influence and power. In that sense, Mr. Obama, you’re no better than the object of your scorn.

    Make no mistake, this man will lie and cheat to get influence and power. He’s on a mission and now that he’s so close to the White House gates, he’s true wolfish form comes out. He’s an ambitious politician, who has learned how to spice up his rhetoric with the Wright words. Tread carefully, America, the time for “change” may come, but what you need right now is a fistfull of solutions.

  • PaganPower

    Obama may be disarming himself in his attempt to deny Hillary the nomination, and consequently we can look forward to Obama joining the pantheon of defeated Democrats: McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry.

    Can you see me standing on the table here bellowing the Hallelujah Chorus?

  • secularhumanizinevoluter

    The day I support this racist, misogynistic, hohophobic, America hating protofacist with a America hating wife and a America hating Pastor/Mentor?thrownunderdabus and a crooked moneyman and a domestic terrorist murdering employer, political mentor, neighbor,fellow board member of a good buddy is the day I lower my testicals into a frybaby. Notgondoit! EVER!

  • Mary

    Agree completely, Karen. This is Daley machine Chicago politics: control the money, control the results.

    Sure puts the LIE to Obama’s claim to be building a consensus from grassroots and bottom-up, doesn’t it?

    Same ole, same ole.

    I DO hope those MoveOn.org people understand EXACTLY what they’re dealing with, now.

  • leslie

    EXACTLY what I was thinking.
    Thanks for saying it.

  • doppich

    Pardon me a moment of Schadenfreude while I contemplate Moveon’s reaction.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    Thanks…the next article down was even more interesting. It was about Elizabeth’s reaction to John’s leaning toward Obama.

    They are a nice couple, even though I wish he hadn’t endorsed Obama. I like it that they are open about their own differing opinions about this.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    I haven’t sensed that they are terribly aware of much besides how they hate Hillary. LOL* They picked the least progressive candidate in terms of policies and then used all of their energy, essentially, to back the unvetted Obama. They apparently did not mind that he blocked all bloggers from his own strategy calls, while Hillary invited them in. They still went along with the BS that Obama is “transparent.”

    They also never once defended Hillary or any of her supporters for the slime behavior from the media.

    They seem, to me, to be much more a “regressive” rather than “progressive” group.

    Just my take…

  • granny

    I hope all of Hillary’s supporters will remember John Kerry, John edwards, and ted kennedy when they decide to run again. now we know they are not the kind of people I would ever vote for again. birds of a feather flock together. and let’s not forget richardson. what a bunch of losers.

    Hillary Clinton is the only choice, I will only vote for her. and if she should lose then I will become a John Mccain supporter. anybody but obama.

  • Bud White

    What I find interesting, too, is that much of the left (moveon.org, Air America, The Nation, MSNBC, etc.) are backing the LESS
    progressive candidate.

  • workingclass artist

    “….Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim…” George Santayana. The Life of Reason
    I agree with you secular….I’ll become a refugee seeking INTELLECTUAL ASYLUM if OBAMAFASCIST becomes POTUS….It will be over for AMERICA.

  • sandyR

    In 1979, the Daley machine got its ass handed to it.
    Michael Bilandic was Daley’s (the real Daley, not the offspring in Chicago now) successor. He had the Daley machine behind him.

    OOOPPs….What happened?

    It snowed! And everybody was pissed off because the snow didn’t get removed fast enough and commuters were pissed. They voted for Jane Byrne in the dem mayoral primary.

    People were so loyal to the Daley machine, that a snow storm made them vote the Daley incumbent out of office. In Chicago!

    Oh, Barack…

  • Talktruth

    McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry.

    It’s “The Losers Club.” Edwards joined it last night.

    Thanks for the insight, Bud. More ammunition!

    ************************
    On the topic of electing our Hill: Today’s lucky superdelegate is: Senator Joe Biden!

    I called Joe’s office ((302) 573-6345), and, after about 30 rings, Maryanne answered and politely took my message. Feel free to call. And use her name – people love that!

    I also wrote a letter (sent at http://biden.senate.gov/services/contact/). Here ’tis:

    Dear Senator Biden,

    What an honor to write to you. You have served our country well. I’m writing to ask you to continue to serve our country well by voting for Senator Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nominee.

    Senator Clinton cares deeply for this country and its people. She shows her care and concern through her legislation and involvement in important issues like health care, support for our military men and women, the elderly and the young, the environment, the economy and many others. Senator Clinton is a known entity, and has shown her mettle over the years and especially these past few months. She has what it takes to be President of the United States.

    Senator Obama, on the other hand, is kind of a mystery, and what little we know about him is questionable. He stayed in an anti-American church for 20 years, and had its pastor as his “moral compass.” Bill Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist, is a friend of his – indeed, Obama launched his state senate campaign from Ayers house, yet prevaricated by saying, “We’re not that close.” A member of the Senate who was with him during a security exercise said Obama should be nowhere near “the button,” due to his apparent lack of judgment. His voting record is lackluster.

    One other interesting fact is that Democrats may have to distance themselves from him in their own campaigns, as Travis Childers did in this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCdgQBGnhHw

    Did you see the results from West Virginia? Senator Clinton beat Obama by an unprecedented amount. And voters were not shy about saying they would not vote for him in the GE. This is a state that has had no trouble voting for African-Americans in the past, and seceded from Virginia because they were anti-slavery. This is not a race issue, Senator Biden. It’s a character issue. For that reason, I ask that you back Senator Hillary Clinton for president. She will bring the country together, and set us back on course toward a brighter future.

    Thank you for your kind attention.

    **************************

    If you would like to pick a different superD, here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/2xbvgn

    Thanks so much for helping Hillary in this way! It’s kind of scary (for me), but also exciting. :-)

  • stodghie

    they deserve every kick they get. welcome to the under the bus hillary movement.

  • JKFriz

    Ann – I like it too.

    Even though I lean toward Obama, I certainly acknowledge that each candidate represents what Edwards fought for in different ways – Hillary with her (slightly) more progressive health-care policy, and Obama with his (slightly) more progressive foreign policy statements.

  • Ren Vs Stimpy

    The Apostate Presidency

    Obama’s father was a Muslim.

    According to Shari’a law the son is always considered a Muslim.

    Obama studied the Muslim religion (at least) between ’67-’71.

    Obama’s announcement that he is a “Christian” renders him a murtaad (apostate) to all Muslims.

    According to Shari’a law no Muslim is to be prevented from assasinating a murtaad nor are they to be prosecuted for doing so.

    So the question is. How is Obama expected to arrange unity with a religion that regards him as fair game? Who will protect him when he visits a Muslim country?

    Lastly: Is he engaged in “pious fraud”? Similar to that of the 911 hijackers? A practice condoned by Shari’a law in which a Muslim renounces his religion in order to carry out an act of martyrdom?

  • stodghie

    this morning in the paper were articles opining on how stupid obama’s campaign is regarding hillary and her supporters. broder says obama is no jfk. hehehe now the pundits are reflecting what we have been saying for weeks. but i think the obama campaign and hence the hapless dims are on a one way projectory over the cliff. why edwards felt he needed to reserve a seat offends me. do we really want people this stupid running the country?

  • http://truthteller2007.mydd.com/ Truthteller

    And notice how the Obama supporters cite words and not deeds when they explain why they support the puppet.

  • Gerald

    I just want to know how Ariana and Keith will spin this to Obamas favor because the Precious can do no wrong

  • Talktruth

    Sorry for the OT: Have ya’ll see Barama’s new “Christian” mailer? Here’s a link:

    http://tinyurl.com/55phd7

    As they say at correntewire.com: Who’s clinging to religion now?

    Also pointed out are the quotes “Called to serve,” “Called to bring change,” and “Answering the call.” Who does that sound like, but our warmongering friend, Georgie?

  • JKFriz

    I would also say that eight years of work as a community organizer and leading voter registration drives in poor communities qualifies as “deeds,” and definitely accords with both Edwards’ concerns about poverty as one of the foremost obstacles to our greatness as a nation.

  • Nellie

    Linda Pritzker and the billionaire club are floating Move ON.

    Here’s a link abou their new “merger” 527 of Progressive groups:

    http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/top/features/documents/03997125.asp

  • http://truthteller2007.mydd.com/ Truthteller

    All that was exaggerated. And it does not qualify him for President.

    Does serving on the Woods Fund with a terrorist qualify him for the Presidency? And what of the abortive Annenberg Foundation? I notice these aspects of his community service background are not listed on his resume.

    He is unelectable and unqualified.

  • beebop

    They are misinterpretting the West Virginia voters and insulting them!

    The problem isn’t that Barack is black. The problem is that the words that Barack used to describe Ohioians and Pennsylvians also describe West Virginians and Kentuckians. And rural people in general. He’s not going to lose because of Reverend Wright of Bill Ayers — as dangerous and hateful as those two people are — He’s going to lose because he’s ignorant about the plight of most Americans and he has that uber liberal disdain for anything he can’t understand. He’s not interested in anything other than the staged appearance of rolling up his sleeves. They knew from polling how bad it would be in WVa, which is why he wasn’t in the state when the election was held. A real politician would have taken his licks and done the home work necessary to make some inroads. Instead, he just bought himself a white boy who he thinks can do the lifting for him. Can you just imagine how much satisfaction a politically naive Jerry Wright is getting this morning?

  • http://truthteller2007.mydd.com/ Truthteller

    If Obama truly cared about poverty, he would have intervened when African-Americans in his district lacked heating and sanitation services as a result of the dereliction of Antion “Tony” Rezko, the indicted slumlord who bankrolled Obama’s campaigns. But Obama said nothing, as he needed Rezko’s cash.

  • Beelzebud

    The mass-hysteria rages on. Isn’t there a Fox News video clip to link to?

  • beebop

    They’ve already eaten the meal. Neither one of them looks like they are ready to ovimit … Four years from now they will be distancing themselves from the memories of oharma.

  • beebop

    How disappointed are you going to be when Edroid doesn’t move the numbers in Kentucky? His endorsement was a stupid political trick (politics as usual anyone?) that has backfired. People aren’t as stupid as Oharma and Ax think they are.

  • JKFriz

    From TNR:

    Obama’s self-conception as an organizer isn’t just a campaign gimmick. Organizing remained central to Obama long after his stint on the South Side. In the 13 years between Obama’s return to Chicago from law school and his Senate campaign, he was deeply involved with the city’s constellation of community-organizing groups. He wrote about the subject. He attended organizing seminars. He served on the boards of foundations that support community organizing.

    http://www.pickensdemocrats.org/info/TheAgitator_070319.htm

    Listen, people who want to help poor people mobilize for change always have to deal with some associations that aren’t politically smart. Ask Martin Luther King, who was harassed by the FBI for his entire career because a few of his organizers were ex-Communists.

  • CoYoungDem

    I have always maintained my commitment to vote for the Dem nominee, no matter what, because I am deeply concerned about the Supreme Court…

    However. If Obama choses McCaskill over Hillary I will re-register as an Indie and sit out in November.

    Choosing Claire McCaskill would be a slap in the face to the millions of women who are voting for Hillary. Personally, my fury would know no bounds. We women are not voting for Hillary just because she is a woman, but because we believe she is the best candidate for the job. If Obama choses Claire as a way to appeal to Hillary supporting women it proves how stupid the Obama campaign really thinks we are. If he thinks any female substitute would be able to replace Hillary, then he can kiss my vote goodbye. Would Harold Ford be a suitable VP candidate to the Obamabots if Hillary were the nominee? I doubt it.

    It is just too insulting, really, to even consider McCaskill a valid option.

  • Emily Pickett

    You NAILED it! He wants a one party system – The Obama party. Sames as the Hitler party, Mussolini Party and the Stalin Party.

    This guy is FREAK’N SCARY!!

    The blog at the top said this – “we can look forward to Obama joining the pantheon of defeated Democrats: McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry.”

    I can only hope so.

    As I said before – I know you all probably disagree – but I have been hearing the term ‘anti-christ’ about Obama from many republican friends (most of whom want to vote for Hillary).

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmm….Jeremiah Wright was a muslim…Obama was a muslim…Rezko is a muslim….Farrakhan is a muslim….Hmmm….Perhaps there is a special dispensation being granted by Farrakhan to this apostasy…..No ?
    In the Koran APOSTASY is PUNISHABLE BY DEATH….BEHEADING….

  • Eurogirl70

    35 years ago Hillary Clinton was registering AA’s to vote while Obama was stil in short pants.

    She worked to give voting rights to all long before she EVER asked anyone for their vote.

    Obama’s actions were strictly calculated and do not span decades…he couldn’t wait to get what he thinks is due him!

  • Emily Pickett

    Fox has been evenhanded.
    MSNBC should be ashamed of itself.

  • beebop

    Leading voter registration drives!

    DON’T MAKE ME LAUGH!!!!! This from the person turning his haughty nose up at plans to revote in Michigan and in Florida. I guess he’s only interested in registering people WHO WILL VOTE FOR HIM and FUCK everyone else …. right?

  • mimi

    Name one thing that he accomplished as a community organizer. Omit the asbestos bs because I already have an answer to that.

    Please do tell… This AA wants to know.

  • OBSP

    This is one of the dirty little secret in Chicago. The first was Rev. Wright and the second is the whole community activities claim(many more). It’s Bullshit! He did it for a couple of months along with hundreds of others that had been recruited and paid by a Foundation. Someone should really get an interview with Alice Palmer.
    This is why HRC is losing, because she really will not bring him down.

  • Karen

    The United Steel Workers formerly supporting Edwards just said because of John Edward’s endorsement, they were now behind Obama…..

  • mimi

    Yes, let’s ask MLK. I bet his vote will count in Chicago style politics.

  • beebop

    The unions havea been out of touch with their rank and file who have voted as they see fit. HRC gets more union votes than BO. I don’t really see that this will change a dynamic, but if it makes you feel better, rock on!

  • Flo

    Cut him some slack. You can’t expect him to be hard-working like Hillary’s white supporters.

  • OBSP

    Another one of the big lies. He started off with big donors. The Commowealth Edison and Jenner and Block money. That’s how it started. Another lie is they don’t do direct mail. I go a big green envelope the other day asking from money.
    The SOB believes his own Hype.

  • Flo

    Too ladylike for politics, I guess.

    Maybe she should reconsider her “I don’t bake cookies” position.

  • Karma

    Selling out those same people Obama organized, to the Rezko slumlord, the minute he got power, proves who he really is.

    Why do people excuse this? This is among the most telling and vile parts of this man’s character.

    Especially, when it looks like his kids were warm as a direct result of someone else’s kids freezing.

    That was a deal breaker for me. He used those people just like he used the church to get black cred. YUCK! He is in fact THE Uncle Tom that he insults, browbeats, and threatens SDs with.

    I’ve lives in GA, I know what real racism looks like and how dangerous it is when it is everywhere. I’m frankly offended that Obama hurls it out as a weapon. That proves he had no interest in coming together.

    He is a greedy divider not a uniter…..same as Bush.

    Bush browbeat people as unpatriotic to achieve his goals….Obama browbeats people as racist.

  • OBSP

    Ted Kennedy called Bill and Hillary Clinton and told him he was taking his Party back. Read the 70 and 80′s playbook and you will know what they want the party to be.

  • Flo

    I guess Edwards isn’t as politically savvy as you.

    You wonder how he ever got elected Senator that way.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    The mistake about Hillary’s supporters was made by Dean, Pelosi, and the suits from the East Coast. They underestimated her support.

    I know that the blogging world took time to catch on. Many Hillary supporters would “fan” me on one site but never post. They didn’t want to be attacked constantly. So it was misleading to look at the comments and draw conclusions. Ditto for the petition stuff, etc. Many Hillary supporters are simply not the type to participate in bully tactics.

    So the conclusion was wrong-headed that her supporters would go like sheep over to the Obama trough.

    What I never could grasp is why they didn’t pay attention to the exit polls earlier. Her supporters have consistently polled higher than his on their willingness to vote Republican if she’s not the candidate. It’s not a mystery, never has been.

    But they ignored it.

    I’m positive that WVA surprised them. The turn-out was high. Obviously, her base is sending a message loudly. They will turn out in KY, too, I think.

  • alibe

    He was a church organizer. He did do diddly squat.

  • Flo

    Anyone who could make Republicans cling to Hillary’s skirts has a power that must be supernatural.

  • alibe

    I oppose Obama because of the content of his character, not the color of his skin.

  • Flo

    It’s too bad Jefferson didn’t share your gift for ALL CAPS. That would really have given George III the message.

  • Flo

    You know what they say, sweetie. Once you try black, you never go back.

  • beebop

    They have already proven how stupid they are, so expect anything.

    Even if Hillary was on the ticket, I could not and would not vote for Barack H. Obama. I cannot imagine anyone down ticket who could make him look like a viable candidate to me.

  • Karen

    Just a comment….I am not for Obama. I made that mistake once when I worked for his Senate
    campaign but unlike others I saw the light.

  • beebop

    I am sure that you have things that would curl our hair. Thank you for joining us.

  • beebop

    ugh. you are one disgusting human form. If in fact, you ARE human. Sweetie.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    She’s done her part to make it pretty clear her feelings about the two health care plans. One is real. The other isn’t going to do squat. “free market” and “states” my foot. In the end, Mccain’s plan is even better than Obama’s. At least you get a 5k writeoff to defray the cost of single pay. I plan to do a post on that one day soon when I catch up.

    This is one reason I have no guilt whatsoever in ditching Barack Obama. Corporate whore in the end. Leave it to the states tells me he has no idea what he’s talking about. Many state legislators are OWNED by the health insurers. Oh yeah, they will reduce cost. And the fork ran away with the spoon. They will just increase the premiums AND keep the supplement. I am so sick of politicians who blow it out of their asses. I will be paying more taxes to help health insurers make even more money, and get nothing useful in return.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    I’m not concerned in the least about her poll numbers in KY. Edwards is not going to “reach out” to that group. LOL* That’s silly. He lost big, big, big with his own supposed group.

    I think it was just a way to signal the race is winding down, and that’s OK in a way. It actually is. There are only a few more races.

  • Flo

    I must say that few things amuse me more by the spectacle of your kind finding themselves so far on the lunatic fringe that you’re obliged to rely on Faux News to bolster your positions.

    Carry on.

  • bamaoil

    What happens when a building collapses, like the north twin tower?

    Debris scatters everywhere, quantum mechanics in action, right, reactions most of us can’t even begin to account for, reactions science hasn’t even discovered?

    It’s not as simple as “bringing him down,” particularly if she doesn’t want to further hurt the US political process, the US government, and it’s infrastructure.

    It’s the difference between winners, and losers, us and them.

    When I say the US Constitution is the best method of governance, I mean it. The thinking behind it was highly reasoned, understanding the principles behind governments, success, men, and the simple minded shifts to tyranny. Jefferson, and Madison, were brilliant, certainly more intelligent than David Addington, Rumsfeld, Cheney or the donut Axlerod.

    Or Tim Russert.

    And just because those donuts like Rummy, or Rove, or Axlkerod are too stupid to get it, doesn’t mean Clinton isn’t.

    And she’s putting the future of the US ahead of her personal ambitions.

    Get it?

  • http://!! flyarm

    pardon me Doppich..while i go giggle in the corner about Move on getting the axe by sparky!

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Oh and one more thing. There are states that make it illegal to buy health insurance out of state. So his offer of allowing me to buy into the congressional health care plan is hollow.

  • Flo

    You do realize what a humiliation it would be for Hillary to serve as Vice President.

    [ring] “Hill…? Barry. Hu Jintao and I are getting thirsty negotiating this trade agreement. Be a dear and bring us some iced tea, will you?”

  • bamaoil

    According to the Rev Manning, who claims he hsa proof Obama and Wright were lovers, Move On is funded by Soros, too.

  • mimi

    CoYoungDem,

    You don’t get it. We all look alike!

    LOL LOL LOL!!!

    Don’t sit this one out. Hold your nose and hand this sexist pig his ass on a platter.

    The Repubs need Roe v Wade just as much as por-choice women do. Get over the myth. They use it as a bargaining chip and it has no meaning once you figure it out. Do the research. You’ll be surprised.

  • judy

    Hillary needs to stay as far away from corrupt Obama as possible. Most of HRC’s hardcore supporters will not vote for Obama even if HRC is on the ticket.

    After the way the DNC, Media, and Obama campaign have treated Hillary a VP position would be a slap in the face. It would be a blaring example of how the good ole boy club forced the woman to the 2nd position even though she was the most qualified for the top position. No VP for Hillary.

  • bamaoil

    I’m not sure he will get the nomination.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    You aren’t kidding, Flo. It’s outraged the pseudo-progressives, too, when Obama also went on Fox.

    but Fox has once again out-foxed the traditional networks by doing something nobody imagined: They were fair to Hillary.

    What a classic coup! They robbed the MSN guys of a huge chunk of viewers.

    And I doubt they will get them back, either.

    My fave analysts today? Buchanan and Rove!

    The gang that includes Brazile are so phony as to be laughable. She pretends to be neutral?

    That’s a complete abuse of her position with the DNC, and it’s slimy.

  • beebop

    And as any good sports franchise knows, there’s nothing more fitting than going into the playoffs with a string of impressive losses, right? hahahahahahaha.

    So. The independents look at it and see that Hillary was putting him away and he got the nod? Does that make sense to you? Will that make sense to them? He’s only going to have three months to do a lot of healin’ and reachin’ out to make any inroads on expandin’ his pitifully tiny little base …. tick tock

  • mimi

    Oh Karen,

    Details please… We love details here.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    We have people like you to bake the cookies.

  • beebop

    you are a boil on the butt of humanity. please don’t change your mind. I am so THRILLED that you and people just like you support Barack Hussein Obama. Sweetie.

  • bamaoil

    How deeply into this IS Daley?

    I remember the civic center, with the Picasso, renamed the Daley Center, after Dick Jr’s father died. It’s the federal center now, right?

    The heartbeat.

    Dad wasn’t a traitor, and the son never struck me as particularly intelligent, good enough, but not brilliant, kind of like meat loaf, in an old Swanson’s TV dinner, Dick Jr is…

    But he seems to be at the center of this, too, not only the IL “business as usual,” but the middle eastern shenanigans, too.

    Maybe it was his chance to hit the big time…

    LOL

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I guess that’s as close to “uncle tom” as you have the nerve to get. Classy people like mimi are used to that crap coming out of mouths like yours.

  • beebop
  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    If you want to get porky on this board, be aware that you are going to get some on you.

  • bamaoil

    A drunk guy who ran off a bridge, and left a woman to die?

    I would not take that ride.

  • mimi

    Are you obtuse or legitimately disabled?

    I suspect the former, but if it’s the latter I’ll cut you some slack.

  • Isolde

    Penny Pritzker is the front woman and muscle for this stunt to end all progressive movements. She is one of the creators of subprime mortgages and the failure of Superior Bank which cost the taxpayers $700 mil. Now this bank failure is threatening people. This is Chicago politics down and dirty. It is just a big rats nest of wealthy frauds and creeps. Linda is another part of the secretive takeover of the Dem party.

  • Karen

    When he ran for the Senate, he was really an unknown
    and frankly won by default. He had the same message
    of hope and change but I became very concerned
    about his honesty when he promised us at a campaign rally that he was not running for President. Senator Durbin was really pushing it even then. When the ink had barely dried on his oath of office, he was already running. I then started looking into this guy and…..Senator OK. President. No Way.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    beebop, I think i’m glad donna’s helping barry out. lol. Her batting average is dismal. Good think Bill Clinton gave her a job so she could be a “consultant” with such a dismal record and still get away with it.

  • Beelzebud

    Fox News is “fair” to Hillary Clinton in the same way Rush Limbaugh and his Operation Chaos are “fair” to her.

  • bamaoil

    I worry more about Odinga, than Obama.

    They’re stupid, dumber than a pile of dog shit, let’s be up front about that, but those whack African dictators, with the aid of those vying for their affections to get the oil, murder, because oil enables a bunch of low IQ drunks, eunuchs.

    Is this fair, or right?

    They aren’t smart, they’re infantile.

    Reminds me of Rumsfeld, once you get past the projections of power, and the power puffs, the guy can’t fight, none of them can.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    LOL.

  • workingclass artist

    WHO’S GOD CINDY ?…..just wonderin….

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    Bingo! I have been appalled by the careless tossing around of that term.

    The recent dust-up really has given a lot of people pause. Brazile is offended by the term working class because it leaves out the AA working class members. OK. Then the boys jump on Hillary when she qualified it by saying white working class.

    This type of “gotcha” stuff is offensive. True racism and true sexism should be confronted immediately, along with true ageism, etc.

    But calling people racists when there’s no evidence to support it?

    That’s wrong, and it diminishes the real deal.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Look how well they worked out for Kerry.

  • bamaoil

    Or is just a deluded physicist, along the lines of Chaka Khan, late of Pakistan.

  • Flo

    Since Indiana, the superdelegate endorsements [not including add-ons, which were decided by election results earlier] have gone 32 to 0. For Obama.

    Are you this delusional outside the Internet?

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    D-Manchuria)

    OMG ROFL!

  • alibe

    And why should we think we have to do anything about the problems in this country. Let Obama make a speech about it and all is well. Everytime there is mention of a problem, Obama states that he gave a speech on that issue. And to think I use to actually work and do things. What a waste of my time. I only had to give a speech or say I gave a speech and it is the same as doing something. Silly me. It does ease the burden of having to do anything. And I magically feel I have done something. It is magic! I can feel the change as I type. And HOPE too. It has transcended all work. My GOD it is the essence of faith. I believe and it has come to pass.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Justin it’s happened before. And each time, the moderates prevail. All these fringe radicals serve to do is keep us from electing more Democratic presidents. They are like a Pox upon the house.

  • http://speaktruth speaktruth

    I find that interesting, too, and disgraceful.
    However, I don’t know where you get the idea that MSNBC is progressive. It is GE, the second largest corporation in the world, makes weapons and war products, advertises pharmaceuticals and insurance companies, pollutes Hudson River and refuses to clean it up, head of special interest groups. They are not progressive, no way, no how.
    Some of their newscasters, like Olbermann pretend to be, but no true progressive would preach Hillary hatred the way he does. He’s just one more corporate shill, like the rest of the Obama campaign, lying and fooling the populace.
    Now I am almost placing Edwards in that group, too. At the very least he’s not as smart as I thought he was. But I was beginning to suspect that before he dropped out, when he showed his ignorance of who Obama really was, and ignored Obama’s plagiarism of his words.(Happened many times). And ignored Obama stealing Iowa caucuses (as reported by many of his supporters on his own blog).

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    True…..it’s been a season of strange bedfellows, for sure.

    I do personally think Rush really likes her now. LOL*

    He’s had a great deal of fun with this primary season, but I am not one that buys the BS that he’s actually affected the outcome much.

    I couldn’t believe it when Kerry said that. That’s stupid thinking, in my book. Kerry has proven why he really never should have been president.

    Before it’s over, all the big East Coast suits supporting Obama are going to prove it.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    You haven’t been in politics very long have you?

  • Jason

    Debris scatters everywhere, quantum mechanics in action, right, reactions most of us can’t even begin to account for, reactions science hasn’t even discovered?

    Perfect example of you talking out your ass.

    Its not quantum mechanics in action AT ALL.

    Its classical physics in action. You almost can’t get any more classical. Nothing unusual at all occurred at the quantum level.

    Further, how is Clinton possibly putting the future of the US ahead of her personal ambitions?

    Her ambition is to be president. She is still running.

    Or is there something else going on at the quantum level?

  • workingclass artist

    FLO….Your village called….Their IDIOT is missing….You better get back to work now….IN GAZA….

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Funny how Barry trips over himself now to get on Fox himself.

  • Dawnelle

    I like Harold Ford
    I like Kendrick Meeks even more!!

    I’d LOVE to see them on the ticket!!

    FK BO supporters! They are mainlining hope-a-dope on a rope and will have a major headache when they come crashing down in NOV (or sooner)

    I have stocked up on popcorn for the main event!

  • mimi

    What did Buchanan say? msnbc is v-chipped on my tv.

  • sonia

    (05-15-2008) “AP Standards: Obama’s Top Contributors Linked to Investments in Sudan” (newsbusters.org)

    ——————————————————————————–

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/terry-t…estments-sudan

    Quote:
    According to OpenSecrets.org Barack Obama received $544,000 from people associated with or employed by Goldman Sachs. Not good. In 1998 China was set to make its first public offering on the New York Stock exchange via a company called the China National Petroleum Company (CNPC). The deal quickly came under fire because China was financing arms sales to the Sudan and allegedly used Chinese prison laborers to build oil pipelines in the region. (Src. Human Rights Watch)

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    You better tell Barky. He spawns to get on there. Boy is Moveon ever ticked off.

    You are confused about who the fringe is. You also don’t understand that winning a battle is not the same as winning a war. Just ask George McGovern and Mike Dukakis.

  • sonia

    (05-15-2008) “AP Standards: Obama’s Top Contributors Linked to Investments in Sudan” (newsbusters.org)

    ——————————————————————————–

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/terry-t…estments-sudan

    According to OpenSecrets.org Barack Obama received $544,000 from people associated with or employed by Goldman Sachs. Not good. In 1998 China was set to make its first public offering on the New York Stock exchange via a company called the China National Petroleum Company (CNPC). The deal quickly came under fire because China was financing arms sales to the Sudan and allegedly used Chinese prison laborers to build oil pipelines in the region. (Src. Human Rights Watch)

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    Yes, Nevada showed the union bosses where they could take their endorsements and put them. LOL*

    She’s consistently won the rank and file. The top endorsement means nothing.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    You really have been subjugated in your lifetime haven’t you?

    Not to worry. She wouldn’t be caught standing next to the faux Baby Jesus when he falls.

    If she did, I still wouldn’t vote for him.

  • bamaoil

    Ah, no, the reality check is understanding Russian, and US history, and the influence of Marxism on men like Wright, and Farrakhan.

    Really, see the rest of the world, in your attempts to discredit, Chris, you look uninformed.

    No one is doing a Jack Webb “Dragnet” but what philosophy drives men like Chavez, or Farrakhan?

    Castro does, in part.

    Right?

    So maybe your frame of reference needs to be updated.

    Despite what Reagan tried to sell people, same for the untalented Rove, the US does face real threats, it isn’t some old school propaganda spew.

    And big oil will fund men like Ondinga for access to that oil. So , you get a bunch of kook dictators together throughout Africa, central America and the middle east, they funnel cash to the middle east, and elsewhere, from oil profits, and drugs, say, and they do, next thing you know you have a viable threat, like or not. And then oil wants to elect Obama, so it can gain greater entry to Africa, to better game the Chinese, and the Russians, Obama is connected to Wright, and the HATE of black “liberation,” which goes back to men like Ondinga, and Qaddafi, and Farrakhan, and you don’t take it seriously? It’s similar to the Wahhabi’s, really, mix it with middle eastern extremism, and the Jews have a problem.

    Unthinkable?

    No, this is how they think, how much genocide have we seen in Africa?

    Farrakhan spewing about the “Jews?”

    He doesn’t mean it, just a big mouth, a harmless uncle?

    With billions of dollars and bunch of crazy genocidal African and Middle Eastern dictators behind him, including former Baathists, and creepy Auchi?

    It’s a dangerous world out there, like isn’t just a game of HALO.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I’m sure she knows that. After all, 2012 can’t be far off, and the Old Man won’t be able to catch up to her. She can call it the I TOLD YOU SO platform.

  • http://speaktruth speaktruth

    I think they underestimate us bigtime because she is a woman, and so many of us are.
    This election so clearly shows all the sexism and misogyny still rampant in this country.
    Because of the female association they assume we are “soft” and that they can bully us, take us for granted, that we’ll come back, like many abused women, because we have nowhere to go. AA people have been fighting back for decades, so they have respect, and much white guilt.
    The women’s movement folded a while back. Reasons for all this are important and deserve many long discussions. I think Hillary made a mistake by not having a big discussion about gender politics when O announced speech about race.
    To me, she has been entirely too nice and laidback in this campaign, allowed them to intimidate her not to go negative, when going negative always works.
    And fuck Dem party if they don’t like this. They’re not my party anymore, anyway.
    Problem is McCain is so pathetic I have no party at all, no one to represent me. He’s still talking about winning Iraq war.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Can’t wait till he visits them and give them the same answers he gave Michigan auto workers the other day: No answer at all.

    It’s politics karen. Just remember, he has to wait to august to be coronated. And then there are all those skeletons….

  • Flo

    Too bad Hillary couldn’t even win the battle.

    I can’t wait for Wolfson’s book to come out with the inside stories about the laughably incompetent campaign she ran.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Did we get the race card yet? Haven’t seen it in at least twenty minutes.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    His problem isn’t going to be about healing the party rift. His problem will be that he lied about Wright, tried to pull a “big speech” stunt, got caught, and lost the will of the people forever by doing so. His Wright problem is way bigger than Hillary’s sniper fire story ever was. And he still has not owed the truth that is plain for everyone to see: Yes, he knew. Yes, he stayed. Yes, he really lied to the public.

    His problem will be his actual policies, too. McCain is going to go after him on taxes, and McCain will win that argument with the middle class. Obama’s plans are deadly to middle class people. End of story.

    His problem will be that McCain isn’t going to play the race game. Nobody cares anymore, so that handy trick is over.

    His problem will be that his policies aren’t friendly to women, to Jewish Dems, to older Americans, to lower-wage-earners, to dual-income moderate earners.

    He’s got huge problems that have nothing to do with our “feelings.”

  • bamaoil

    Too bad you don’t share Jefferson’s penchant for brilliant thought.

    Ah, well, can’t win them all, stupid.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Ding! your cookies are done!

  • Flo

    Beats not even making it to the post-season. :-)

  • Cindy

    Flo,
    Hard-working people only vote for other hard-working people. That’s why they are overwhelmingly voting for Hillary.
    How did you miss that?

  • Talktruth

    Yes, welcome! And please feel free to share any juicy tidbits… :-)

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Cleanup! Aisle 6!

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    Buchanan has been even-handed. Now, he’s sexist…but he has been a lot more reasonable about pointing out the positives of her policies and stating the facts rather than the Obama spin on everything, down to and including the delegate math stuff and the role of the SDs.

  • Flo

    Ooh… “Barack HUSSEIN Obama”! Ooga-booga!

    I for one welcome our new Islamofascist overlords.

  • bamaoil

    This, from a man who has never had sex with a woman.

    You seems to spout so much pseudo intellectualism, like rumsfeld playing sec of defense, or his lil army thinking it could take over the middle east with it’s simplistic tactics of force, Rumsfeld the adult, everyone else the “immature” child.

    Oh, the irony…

    So, tell me, steamroller, how’s tricks, working out like you thought?

    The Edwards bomb didn’t really go yesterday, didn’t meet expectations, yet here you are, following up, making no adjustments for your failure.

    Why?

    In a real military battle, it would be fatal, and this is your pattern.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Well Barry is pro choice, kind of not really, maybe. kind of like his stand on gun control, no gun control, gun control. Barry is all things to all people and nothing to anybody.

  • alexei

    Please do not ever again mention MLK in the same context as Obama. Obama, who’s political guru is slumlord Rezko, where at least 11 of those slumlord “housing” projects were in Obama’s State Senate District. MLK would be marching against Obama for just this despicable corruption on the back of poor blacks. So, this great “community organizer” didn’t know about these projects in his own District? Sure.

    People were freezing in Chicago winters with no heat. Those buildings were totally broken down – and Rezko and friends got millions from taxpayer. Obama the fraud, the corrupt and the bamboozler. He is no community activist, he cares nothing for others, he cares only for himself. Arrogant, elitist prigs – sums up the Obamas.

  • Nellie

    Ren,

    I have no knowledge of your own religion – but please believe me when I say that from an American viewpoint Islam is NOT the issue.

    First of all it was Obama’s Paternal GRANDFATHER who was a Muslim. Obama’s step Grandmaother he calls “Sarah” is currently a practicing Muslim.

    Obama’s FATHER, as well as many of the LUO tribe are ardent COMMUNISTS. This is an atheistic ideology that is about RAW power over others and has absolutely NOTHING to do with God or Allah.

    Obama’s family – chronic losers politically CLAIM, falsely to want “UNITY” government. That is only so THEY can get a position in government, which they then use to attempt to overthrow the legitimate government.

    They have been playing this game since the late 1950′s.

  • Flo

    Wow, the first comment on this site I agree with.

    She’s right. Why would they overturn Roe v Wade when it’s proved so useful for milking donations from the fundie rubes?

    There’s still the whole “nuke Iran” thing to consider. But the people here don’t seem too fond of Muslims anyway.

  • mimi

    Did you say Clinton’s ‘personal ambitions’ with a straight face????
    As if BO has none???

    Oh no you did’ent!!!!

    Lot of laughs on the board this morning.

    You no what they say:

    NO FOOLS, NO FUN!!!!

  • bamaoil

    Money is power.

    Money isn’t brains, though.

    Iraqis are beating big oil, and Axelrod, well, enough said.

    I mean, the similarities between the stupid Rumsfeld crew trying to game the middle east proper, and stupid axelrod and dean trying SO desperately to make Obama a contender, are startling.

    Mediocrity that must win at an y cost, but only kills itself.

  • alexei

    Way to go the Unity route – Obama follower. Love your empathic responses and cogent arguments. Obama followers just keep right on making friends left and right. Pathetic!

  • alexei

    Wow, you are on a roll – typical Obama follower. Such insightful and thought provoking remarks – you have a real gift in putting people in their place with these witty comebacks. LOL.

  • mimi

    Somebody posted on the another thread last night that she laughed in Kerry’s face when he came asking for his usual 200 reliable signatures from her.

    I laughed so hard then logged off.

    That was better than Ambiens.

  • workingclass artist

    Agree with you Bamaoil…The christian post has a great article on the Marxist roots underlying and uniting these FASCISTS….
    All anyone has to do is look no further than the recent history of Nicaragua oe El Salvador to see LIBERATION THEOLOGY in action….
    Most of Obamas’ supporters probably don’t even understand Marxism or Fascism and how one can incorporate the other…Europeans have been sayin for a while we were due for our bout with serious fascism….McCarthy although he employed many fascist tactics never rose to the type of prominence necessary….Things are gettin scary tribal if you get my drift….

  • bamaoil

    I suppose if you need to believe it, you should.

    Or if THEY need to believe it, they should.

    I see a lot of projecting but no real intellect here, and I see people desperately trying to paint the illusion of control, when they have none, the more they fake, the worse off they are, but they can’t stop it.

    Like small boys, really sad.

  • Hope

    Flo
    While we’re at it, why don’t we bake your ass right here on No Quarter.

  • bamaoil

    Um, if the goal was to bring down big oil, and the rest of the kook crew, I’d say she has done well.

    can’t you see it?

    Wow, glad you’re not a troll or anything, or my goodness, they’d have their asses handed to them.

    Idiot, my contempt for your lack of intellect knows no bounds, all this arrogance and not a fucking clue as to how you’re being gamed, every lil pussy whisp ‘o fart in the GOTCHA! enough for a Nobel backslapping in THAT group…

    THREE wars the republicans have lost, three, and all you see is Clinton.

    F’ing idiot.

    Maybe your latent homosexuality manifested through a misdirected hatred of women is messing you up, your inability to game properly, and win.

    Clinton, and democrats arent the enemy.

    BUt keep chasing them lil pee pee.

  • ginaswo

    unless they repeal the MCCarran Ferguson Act which makes insurance state to state still state business, and prevented Federal regulation, and allows self funded plans to evade state mandates……

    this cant happen

    oy! Barack has no intention of getting us to UHC none IMHO
    its another empty WORD FOG

  • amelia

    There is also Larry Sinclair, Rev. Manning, a private pilot, and a former chef from a Chicago restaurant who all alledge that Obama is on the “down low” and has done crack as recently as 1999. Why hasn’t the MSM reported this story?

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    I really don’t see this from the sexism framework. I saw some hideous examples of sexism being used to dismiss Hillary. Don’t get me wrong.

    But my perspective has been all along that this was a case of the Eastern suits trying to wrestle control away from the Clintons, not about her sex.

    They used heavy-handed tactics to the point that they galvanized her supporters in protest, which was stupid thinking.

    They imagined it would be OK to do so against her because she’s Hillary, the evil one. They demonized her.

    And they, in the end, helped her a lot. People rallied to her defense, or at least the true liberals did.

    The progressives are now outted for what they truly are….faux liberals. They said nary a word and, in fact, were some of the worst abusers.

    But I never did think this was a sexist deal. It was political. Ditto for his race, btw. There’s no racial issue.

    He has the same number of true racists whom he’ll never win as she had of sexists whom she probably wouldn’t ever convince.

    But she did a great job of pulling in the “reluctant” male vote, I say. They really admire her spunk and steely character. She won them over.

    :)

    Obama has failed to win over anyone. He’s been losing ground since January.

    Odd that he’ll probably be the nominee. He’s got momentum, but it’s carrying him nowwhere.

  • mimi

    “This election so clearly shows all the sexism and misogyny still rampant in this country.”

    You all really need to pay more attention to pop culture. There’s been a determined push in the entertainment media, and the whole msm to objectify, sexualize, and marginalize young women. This has been going on for years. The result is what you see among young women today.

    There’s a saying that was used in the AA community:

    “The best slave is the one who whips himself.”

  • ginaswo

    yeah he’s qualified to do a ‘voter registration’ drive signing up the deceased and homeless the better to try and steal a GE with……

    who is the better thief? Chicago style politickin or Rove 3.0

    I hope to Gawd we never need to learn

    HILLARY ALL THE WAY TO DENVER AND THE WHITE HOUSE BABY!!!

    BOOYAH!!!

    HILLYEAH!!!

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    And yes….McCain’s war stuff is hard to get past.

    But Obama can really say bye if there’s good war news around the time of the election.

    People are ambivalant about the war even today.

    (Boy, this is my opinion alone, mind you.)

    They want to see some pull-out, but they also don’t want to abandon Iraq. Hillary’s plan was the best.

  • ginaswo

    kiss my grits ‘flo’

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    A lot of the young women have turned and gone to Hillary after seeing how their male friends went on a rampage with the sexist comments about Hillary.

    I think those young women learned a lot in this primary. *haha

    Never underestimate the real challenge.

  • bamaoil

    They see it in terms of themselves, they feel those pursuing this agenda are doing it for the political system, to advance a political cause.

    They’re not, they’re hateful lil idiots, with low IQs who have a need to prove themselves as players.

    And its’ about money, and greed.

    Think Wall Street, but with whack African dictators, Farrakhan finally gets his moment.

    Not too different from Rumsfeld, really, and just as untalented.

    You know, when Ondinga is the smart one, even smarter than Rummy, ah, well…

    LOL

  • Jason

    You’re an idiot. Go reread my post.

    I never said BO didn’t have personal ambitions.

    Obviously he does, he wants to be president too. So does McCain.

    Everyone in politics has personal ambitions.

    I was refuting the point that Hillary was somehow putting the good of the nation ahead of her personal ambitions.

  • ginaswo

    waffle lovin beach laying Obama who doesnt know how many states we have and thinks they speak Arabic in Afghanistan is in your opinion tougher than Hillary!!!

    BWAAAHHHAAAAAA!!!

    cry all the way home little piggy, no Dem base for you!
    no GOP crossover for you!
    no Indies for you!

    all the Huckabee-esque cross bearing mailers on Earth will not Obama with the ‘workers’ you know, working class, the people this party was supposed to speak for? good luck with the evangelicals after Wright, BWAHHHAAAAA!!!!!

    WE ARE SOLID
    S-O-L-I-D
    HILLARYS’ BASE IS WITH HER ALL THE WAY TO DENVER AND THE WHITE HOUSE BABY!!

    AND OUR ‘GIRL’ IS THE STRONGEST ‘MAN’ STANDING IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE

    BOOYAH!!!
    HILLYEAH!!!

  • mimi

    Gotta love all those grassroots donors!

    Excuse me a second, I’ve got to go empty my barf bag again.

  • ginaswo

    Would that be Trinity? The Trumpet? Rev Meeks?

  • ginaswo

    karma baby!!

  • ginaswo

    yeah he is so saavy that must be why he keeps losing….

  • amelia

    They deserve every thing that happens to them. They should never have endorsed any candidate until after the primary. Since George Soros started Moveon we now no why Move on endorsed Obama.

  • ginaswo

    go away Mandingo
    far far away

  • ginaswo

    Im the one with the poms poms behind you waving madly

    :0)

    for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth!!

  • ginaswo

    cant he be ‘called’ to investigate a galaxy far far away…….

  • Isolde

    Exactly what is my kind? I am curious how you regard those who do not support Chicago style political thuggery.

  • ginaswo

    hope youre a GOP troll cause this is guaranteed to pisx off any reasonable Democrat

    sad sad sad

    Obama will never serve a day in the White House not a single day count on it

  • ginaswo

    yeah remember the big surprise the unions were gonna pull for Oblahma in PA??

    -cricket-
    -cricket-

  • Kathy

    One thing that amazed my husband was the intelligence of Hillary. The debates did it for him. He was amazed at her mastery of the issues. I never thought we would ever agree on a candidate. We are in our 60s and this is the first time in 40 years. Hooray!

  • rwc

    Progressive is just another label for liberal elitist. It doesn’t fool conservatives or anyone else.

    As for “progressive infrastructure” it doesn’t really exist. There’s no “progressive” equivalent of the AEI, CATO Institute or the myriad of other conservative think tanks that constitute Rightwing infrastructure.

    The only things liberals have worth mentioning is Move-on. And its nothing but a vehicle for latte liberals and their agenda.

    And that organization has been in bed with Obama from the beginning.

    IMO there isn’t anything to take over.

  • Jason

    Hillary took almost $400,000 from Goldman. So I guess she is also responsible for using slave labor to build oil pipelines?

  • Amy

    MoveOn is funded by Soros and Pritzer. They know exactly what is going on. They (Obama) probably wants to direct the additional dollars to the 527 of choice.

  • Betty

    Do you really want her to do that flo?
    Remember she could have roasted your candidate’s hind quarters in January with your Rev. Wright if she wanted to and wasn’t such a true democrat. But no, all the while she turned the other cheek while you people call her and her husband racist, her a liar, insulting her family, trashing her reputation and everything she has worked for, everything both her and President Clinton did to help black people. That is the measure of the person you people continuously are trying to insult.

    IS IT ANY WONDER THE PEOPLE LOVE HER?

    You and your little freak show come up way short, way short. Go knash your teeth.

  • http://speaktruth speaktruth

    Is this true? Where did you hear this? Can you tell more about this conversation?

  • http://speaktruth speaktruth

    How about the Democratic party?

  • workingclass artist

    LOL…ginaswo….I swear the cover art for that awful book flashed in my head…When is Quintin Tarantino going to do more riffs on those flicks….

  • http://speaktruth speaktruth

    But I thought that’s a big reason Obama is so much purer than Hillary. He says this, his supporters it, again and again.
    Which makes him a liar. Hillary does accept this money, but he says he doesn’t, then does.
    Don’t these lies tell you anything?

  • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

    Ah, no, the reality check is understanding Russian, and US history, and the influence of Marxism on men like Wright, and Farrakhan.

    The reality check is that you don’t know jack about history: not even Hitler and Tojo combined killed more than Stalin alone. Communism/Marxism/Socialism are branches from the same tree, that rob self-respect and individuality. The very anti-thesis of Western society.

    And “Big Oil” has zero to do with it, as they’re anarcho-capitalists.

    It’s no wonder why the Right-Right has to be the history keepers, as the Left-Left has a tendency to excuse and try to rewrite it for the day. Since this is a political forum I’ll spare you how and why it’s so wrong to do so.

  • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

    Sadly I agree. After reading the screed above, it shows that the Liberal side still is in the revolutionary (Commie) mode, where education comes from a “little red book” (e.g., DK, DU and host of other “academies” of vile talk). If you have a brain stem to challenge the thinking, they send in their Red Guards as enforcers (and it shows, out of the political sites that I’ve been on only one that’s run by conservatives have I been banned on [the other is run by a NY liberal of the DK/Soros donation list type, which I'm sent 3 to 30 day "breathers" for being too radical for them -- and that is suppose to be a conservative forum??]).

    Sad because the best government is one that actually works as Ying and Yang. Poles that need each other and work in harmony as one.

    Sometimes we have such a gift, but mostly it’s Ying or Yang wanting to take over each other’s space.

    What good is gridlock and hiding legislation? Neither side gets anything done.

  • Northwest rain

    This is what started the “old” women’s liberation movement of the late 60s early 70s. The boys-club anti-war group told women to shut up and let the men make the decisions. At that time women were making about 50 cents to men’s $1.00.

    The sexism and misogyny was extreme — jokes, pictures etc. All the text books used “he” only — in fact the authors and editors went out of their way to use the pronoun HE — when they or she should have bee used. In English classes — NO poems by women were found in text books. History — a handful of women as foot notes or side bars.

    As mimi notes, there has been an increase in misogyny in popular culture — and this makes its way to the subconscious. That’s why snObama felt he could get away with flipping Clinton the bird — etc. It’s cool to disrespect women in popular culture.

    Yesterday there was a comment by a lawyer who has worked the front lines and she found that as the disrespect for women in song and words increase — so does violence toward women.

    So I’d say as an observer of current events — Obama is very dangerous to the health and well being of women of
    America and the world. He and Mrs. Obama have a very harmful, hateful attitude that should NOT be tolerated by real Liberals and caring human beings.

  • Ruth

    I agree, Hillary isn’t the one running on her financial purity as opposed to all her opponents that would be Obama. Yet, he has taken funding, in fact he’s taken MORE funding from special interests and the very people he used to say he was too pure to go near. Another lie from psuedo baby jesus.

  • Rashad

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