No Pakistan was NOT on the no-travel list. Even ordinary tourists went to Pakistan in 1981, when it was relatively peaceful, and to encourage tourists Pakistan granted 30-day visas to US citizens at the airports.

Pakistan was never on the no-travel list of the US State Department, and it certainly wasn’t in 1981.

So Obama could go on a US passport, and he did because he never had an Indonesian passport.

Patient E. has clearly achieved Kubler-Ross stage 3 (bargaining), but is hovering on the edge of stage 4 (depression). Caution required.

Patient Ferd B. still between stage one and stage two (denial/anger), after extensive treatment. Thus have no further confidence in or endorsement of counseling-based therapy techniques. Antipsychotic prescriptive regimen may make a difference, though patient appears more likely than most to require further observation, with regard to Tardive Dysphrenia.

Send your contributions to David Bossie, right wing hit man and certified madcap, who took out a ad in the Columbia newssheet offering a reward for the same.

Go ahead, crank the crazy up to eleven and rip the knob off.

He spoke of it because he wrote it and therefore thought a great deal about it, obviously (you might take a hint, mel).

Incidentally, once again I’ll point out that his professor in the honors course who graded the paper said he got an A on the paper, and was one of the best students in the class.

The link to the professor’s comment is provided upthread in response to some dolt’s similar complaint; I’m sure you can find it– search on commments made by someone named “mel.”

[sigh] I suppose that is progress of some sort, although I doubt it will make any difference to you or the many Obama detractors lacking clear reasons for their antipathy and desperately seeking same.

As I say, you can hardly be surprised when people characterize this as racism– if you can’t even rationally defend what you choose to believe, best be ready to have people characterize your belief as irrational, and if you’re talking about a black guy in what is essentially a white male dominated world, best be ready to have that characterized as racism.

‘Cause you know we characterizers sho am lazy an’ shif’less.

Yeah that’s pretty much it.

That’s why Number Six (Patrick McGoohan) could run for President (born in New York) but the Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) couldn’t (born in Austria).

I’m open to changing this requirement, by the way. Although I would like to see some sort of requirement to keep carpetbaggers at bay, I don’t see any reason why those who have clearly decided to adopt the US as their home can’t run.

And yes, I know that McGoohan has died, thank you.

Those inclined to tell me that Schwarzenegger has died as well, yeah, okay, ah hah hah.

“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”

God, how weird. I think he’s trying to say that a child born in an embassy is a citizen of the country hosting the embassy, because the embassy is strictly speaking, territory of the country occupying the embassy.

Naturally, that’s not quite how it works, but o man, what an interesting and extraordinarily xenophobic point of view.

Really, you’d have to be Lindsay Graham to think this way.

So, what planet do you figure he’s from?

If you were all that staunch, why didn’t you do what Hillary asked you to to do, and did herself?

Having lost the primary, and yeah I voted for her, she said the closest thing to putting her in the office was Obama, and cast her full support to him.

Smart lady, as always. Good advice. Why you no listen? Maybe you have other problem, described earlier in answer to decrementing “three reasons” comment.

Look, despite the differnce posed by chronology in the latin awads, more importantly your link points to the criteria used by Harvard College. Harvard College is most definitely part of Harvard University– one of the Harvard “schools” as Harvard U puts it– but it is the undergraduate school and therefore irrelevant to Obama’s education there (he was in Harvard law as a post-grad). Strictly speaking there isn’t a “law” component to Harvard College at all.

See Tiger’s link for a breakdown on how the latin honors broke down in the law school and you’ll see that I was giving you the troo fax.

Glad I could help.

Harvard 1991, remember? Not 2009.

No one who has read the Gettysburg address thinks that it is about Abe Lincoln’s oratory prowess.

Except you.

Heard a recording of Abe’s speeches, have you? I envy you more than I can say.

Like I said, up one side of the street and down the other. If this crap is your riposte, then maybe you oughta just get used to having your face rubbed in it, Ferd.