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Kentucky and Oregon Open Thread [Update: Obama's KY Radio Ads & Offices]

Some questions for you folks who live in Kentucky or Oregon–How is Barack’s church flier playing in Kentucky? Is he using that flier in Oregon? Are any of the local media asking him about his ties to Jeremiah Wright in light of him touting his membership at that church? Any thing else you guys and gals are seeing?

[UPDATE by Truthteller]: Barack Obama intends to win Kentucky.

Just listen to these radio ads, ads Obama asked Kentucky superdelegates Rep. Ben Chandler and Lt. Gov. Don Mongiardo to cut on his behalf.

I quote the scripts:

Congressman Ben Chandler’s Ad:

Sen. Barack Obama: I’m Barack Obama and I approve this message.

Congressman Ben Chandler: Hi, this is Congressman Ben Chandler. Here in Kentucky, certain values are passed along from generation to generation. Barack Obama shares those values.

Barack’s story is a uniquely American story. He was raised by a single mom and his grandparents from Kansas. His grandfather served in Patton’s Army. His grandmother worked in a bomber factory.

They didn’t have much money, but they gave Barack a thirst for education, a love for America, and a belief that we all have a stake in each other.

A Christian, Barack’s first job was with churches helping communities left behind when local plants closed.

And Barack Obama’s commitment to workers is just as strong today. His economic plan ends tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas and gives middle class families a 1000-dollar tax break.

This is Ben Chandler. If you are ready for a President we can trust – and change we can believe in – vote for Barack Obama.

Paid for by Obama for America.

Lt. Gov. Mongiardo’s Ad:

Sen. Barack Obama: I’m Barack Obama and I approve this message.

Lt. Gov. Mongiardo: This is Lieutenant Governor Daniel Mongiardo. I’d like to tell you about my friend, Barack Obama. Because once you get to know him, he’ll be like family to us.

Barack was raised by his mom and grandparents. They didn’t have much but they taught Barack the value of hard work and a good education. Something Kentuckians can relate to. As a strong Christian, Barack’s always stood up for people… after college he worked with churches to help communities and families left behind when local plants closed… passing up big jobs on Wall Street.

That’s why Barack’s economic plan will help our families struggling to pay the bills.

Barack will end tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas and instead create jobs here in Kentucky. And his plan gives middle class families a 1000-dollar tax break.

This is Daniel Mongiardo. I know Barack Obama is a man of great character who loves this country as much as we do. He’s change we can believe in, and Kentucky needs it.

Paid for by Obama for America.

Barack Obama clearly has an Appalachia problem, and now the Democratic machine is attempting to perform some damage control on his behalf. Even if he outspends Clinton in KY, he will lose. But he intends to win. And with the Democratic machine, the media and all the money behind him, he should win Kentucky. After all, he is the presumptive nominee.

Also consider the following: Obama has 16 offices in KY, while Clinton is operating out of nine. If Obama cannot win Kentucky with all these resources, he has a lot to explain to the superdelegates. Team Obama must be desperate after losing WV by 41 points. How else does one explain all the ads and all the offices?

  • Bill Delyon

    Dear Kentucky and Oregon,

    Please vote for Clinton.

  • Flo

    yes.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I hear they thought he was running for Pope.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I’ll also let the Italians, Jews, Gays and Lesbians, Catholics, Seniors, hicks with guns, and Baby Boomers know he is arriving.

  • kenoshaMarge

    Dear Voters in Kentucky and Oregon,

    Feel free to continue the ass-kicking that the voters of WV gave to Obama last Tuesday.

    And trolling may be fun for little attention whores like the silly Flo and the dimwitted Bill but some of us really do like to talk about issues.

    One of the important issues that real Progressives used to have was the important one of the separation of church and state. They were adamant in their criticism of GeeDubya’s constant insertion of religion into politics. They were appalled at just the thought that a shelf was aligned to look like a cross in a Mike Huckabee campaign ad.

    Now we are presented with a picture of their very own anointed “One” with a super giant cross with lights and everything. Are they outraged by this? Nope, not a peep about it not being appropriate when their pissant of a politician is using the symbol of faith that a lot of us hold sacred to tout his political ass.

    What a bunch of spineless, mindless hypocrites you people are. If you had either honesty or integrity you would be ashamed. So being trolls, you don’t have to worry about that.

  • Kefa

    If Clinton does not win the Democratic Party nomination, 29% of Democrats say she should run an Independent campaign for the White House. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Democrats disagree. Clinton supporters are evenly divided on the question.

    AS I HAVE STATED BEFORE DO NOT STOP RUN HILLARY RUN…I FEEL THE BUILDUP, THE WAVE, THE BIG MO, RUN HILL RUN

  • Dawnelle

    FYI EVERYONE

    Big Hillary out door rally in South Dakota!!

    On cnn live now!

  • Flo

    Yes! Issues, damn it!

    Clinton wins on issues.

  • Flo

    If you’re feeling a buildup, it sounds like you’re full of shit.

    Try a fiber supplement.

  • Kefa

    3RD PARTY RUN BABY

    FUCK OBAMA…..FUCK THE PARTY…..THIS IS FOR THE COUNTRY……THIS IS FOR THE USA

  • Kefa

    IF IT WILL KEEP YOU AND YOUR KIND OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE I MIGHT JUST TAKE YOUR ADVICE FLO.

  • bamaoil

    well if anyone would know about homosexual butt fucking, it certainly would be you, flo…

  • Flo

    Well, his campaign strategies have been infallible. :-)

  • Dave

    Did anyone see Hillary’s statement yesterday that it would be a “terrible mistake” for her supporters to vote for John McCain over Barack Obama?

    She went on to say that of course she is staying in the race, and she wants to be the nominee, but that if you vote for her, you should vote for Obama if he is the nominee.

    What do those of you who say they will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination think about Hillary’s statement?

  • bamaoil

    look whose talking.

    next he’ll be telling us about his plan to take Iran…

  • parentofed

    Lex Herald-Leader just posted story about the flier. The comments were pretty over-the-top: Obama’s a crazy muslim who’ll take over the WH vs No,you’re a dumb racist hillbilly. Most folks don’t read comments.

    Unfortunately, the article itself is a whitewash, talks of possible bigotry & includes quotes from our LtGov who is an O SD. Mongiardo just made ads telling folks to jump in the water, it’s fine. He’s afraid there might be some racist reason not to vote for O. It’s the MSM WV, evidently that’s the only reason folks in Appy won’t vote for him. Dumb of our young LtGov

  • Flo

    They’re not intimidated. After all, they made a terrible mistake by supporting Hillary in the first place.

  • bamaoil

    oh, dave, lol.

    you try.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Actually Barry made a terrible bigotted mistake which led them to support her after they got to know him. Isn’t it nice that they will get another chance in November?

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Keyword: August.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Susan can we do something about this board crapper?

  • Flo

    Does Hillary have plans for Election Day?

  • Bill Delyon

    Yes, I look forward to August also..

    But for obviously different reasons than the ODS folks who post here regularly…

  • ginaswo

    dont forget the under educated white women!

  • http://Words scoutt

    what a piglet you are. more of the unity hate that your dirty nasty disgusting candidate inspires. i’m not voting for him. i spit at his image everytime i see it. take you’re hope and change elsewhere race bating trash.

  • bamaoil

    They are intmidated, and so are you.

  • pm317

    Uppity, don’t forget the sweeties!

    Obviously the young women supporting him have no self-respect; they giggle and swoon at his vulgar display. Hopefully, KY women are different just like WVa women.

    From Byron York in NR (yeah, you may quibble with the source but numbers/facts don’t lie)

    The West Virginia results were as across-the-board as you can get. She won 57-34 among men and 70-24 among women. She won 64-25 among voters who attend church more than once a week and 64-34 among voters who never go to church. She won 69-24 among voters without a college degree and 54-39 among voters with a degree. She won 69-25 among voters who make less than $50,000 a year and 58-34 among voters who make more than that. She won 65-28 among voters who think the economy is the most important issue, 57-37 among voters who think the war in Iraq is the most important issue, and 68-23 among voters who think health care is the most important issue. She won 67-26 among white voters. (We don’t know the breakdown among black voters, because they were too few in number — West Virginia is 95 percent white — for exit pollsters to calculate, although results in other states suggest that blacks probably voted 90-plus percent for Obama.) She won 67-25 among voters who have a union member in their household and 63-31 among voters who don’t. She won 56-38 among voters under 30 years old, 63-27 among voters between 30 and 44 years old, 65-27 among voters between 45 and 59 years old, and 68-28 among voters 60 and older. Among all voters, 70 percent want the campaign to continue, against just 24 percent who want it to end as soon as possible.

    According to the Real Clear Politics total, when one includes estimated vote totals in caucus states (a factor which favors Obama) plus results from Florida (which favor Clinton), but nothing from Michigan, where Obama’s name was not on the ballot, Obama’s lead in the national popular vote is 411,915. That figure is less than Obama’s margin of victory in his home of Cook County, Illinois, where, according to the Illinois Board of Elections, Obama won by 429,052 votes. By other counts, Obama’s lead is far less than his winning margin in Cook County. In other words, take away Cook County and Obama is the loser in the national popular vote race. He’s the president of Chicago.

    President of Chicago!!! Ho, Ho, Ho. See any dead people walking?

  • Bill Delyon

    Clinton/Lieberman ’08!

    The unity Ticket!!!

  • Hillary all the way!

    This is a great!

    Obama Supporters: Do you have any idea how predictable you’ve become? (P.S. Nobody’s buying your latest nicey-poo ploy.)

    Notice something? For about three days after his supporters declared Barack Obama the “presumptive nominee” (the DNC didn’t; Obama himself didn’t; his supporters did), the constant bashing of us non-believers and calls to banish us (and Hillary) from the Democratic Party (and maybe even the planet), forever, suddenly subsided, to be replaced by sickeningly cloying calls for “unity” and “graciousness,” ’cause, after all, “we’re all Democrats.”

    And check out the Pocket Guide to the Obamaniac Behavior Cycle.

  • Flo

    Uppity is looking forward to August because that’s when Hillary will produce the videotape of Obama and Wright committing sodomy.

    And the story of how she showed all the Hillary-haters and became the first female President of the United States will become an inspiring example to our daughters and grand-daughters.

  • ScottVA

    Yes Bad FLO day… she does she’ll be celebrating the defeat of your Messiah! Why you ask because even if she’s not in the run we’re going to send a stinging McGovern style defeat to your Lord and Savior! LOL

  • http://Words scoutt

    flo is a piglet. nasty little person.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    I think she’s very sincere. She’s a real Democrat. She’s a party person, and she is a woman of her word. She said she’d work for unity. She already is doing so.

    It’s the only truly respectful path to take.

    Ditto for her surrogates, such as Taylor Marsh.

    However, the reality for me, anyway, is that the Democratic Party has disappointed me. I’m a lot more concerned about that aspect than about Obama.

    Now that we all realize that he’s just another politician, I’m not as focused on him. He’s just another guy in a suit with a tan selling snake-oil to the public. No biggee….those guys are a dime a dozen. Even his “change” message doesn’t resonate, as he is backed up by the most traditional East Coast snobs in the party. Same ole, same ole.

    He’s not even exciting anymore.

    But I am very disenchanted with the Democratic party, and it’s because of Pelosi’s mis-information regarding the SD role. Totally wrong of her to misinform the public and pretend to do so as someone not committed to Obama.

    I’m disenchanted because of the way Dean used MI and FL to defeat Hillary. Totally unscrupulous abuse of power, and one that simply cannot be justified in any way.

    I’m disenchanted because of Donna Brazile being allowed to be on TV pretending to be neutral while misinforming the public to spin for her candidate, Obama. Totally unethical abuse of power.

    I’m disenchanted by Kennedy playing the race card. Absolutely appalling.

    I’m convinced that the Democratic Party has, indeed, turned their back on the working class. Those problems are too complex. They don’t and won’t work on their behalf.

    It’s frightening to think of this new coalition in power as the middle class continues to deteriorate. I’ve never understood this thinking. People with no money cannot even go to Wall-Mart for clothes! So how the heck is the economy going to survive?

    Either support that middle class or watch the country deteriorate.

    So I’m not about electability nearly so much as about the country and what’s needed.

    And it certainly isn’t Obama’s higher taxes, weak health care plan, and focus on race. Good golly. Let’s work on the real stuff.

  • quarterhorse

    hey flo, there is job for you with the bo camp…..wiping his gooey butt. of course, you would be competing with chris mathews,thats part of the sticky goo there. now, run along and get the job, we have plans to discuss here to ensure that obama’s ass doesnt get in our whitehouse.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    My own feeling is that people do not need to feed the troll.

    Whenever something truly relevant is said, then I respond.

    It’s better to let trolls be trolls than become the police.

  • beebop

    Do you have school books where you are?

  • Nellie

    That IT!

    Larry or Susan, is there someway we can send Bill here back to whatever sewer in Chciago the rats are leaping out of today?

    Why do we need to hear from these mentally deranged and challenged idiots whose only talent is to be able to type Axelrod’s daily talking points and to cludge up disk space with the infantile LOL LOL everwhere?

  • bamaoil

    Part of the “Edwards” assault, don’t you guys know anything about military strategy, my god, this is weak shit.

    Didn’t see this coming, did we?

    it’s like playing soldier with a bunch of precocious 7 year olds.

    D0ods, you left your military industrial complex unprotected…

    Now now, are you in command, control?

    You’re already faking, projecting the results of the “Edwards” swoop, (his egret attack, (LOL)) as limp as that noodle between your legs, and just as small.

    What do you want to think?

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL

    (“I don’t get it” Perhaps you should before you pretend you’re able, danger!)

    LOL

  • GregA

    My Message to the people of Kentucky would be(I am originally from southern ohio) go to the web sites of the Obama supporters and read their comments. The Obama campaign thinks you are “ignorant uneducated crackers”. Additionally the main stream media, in particular MSNBC feels the same way about you. The most defiant vote you could make is to vote Hillary now then McCain this fall. Either of those candidates will not work to marginalize you, your faith and your opinions in the coming years. It is abundantly clear that Obama has no agenda for rural America.

  • bamaoil

    Actually, it’s best to poke him, he’s not bright, he thinks he is.

  • http://truthteller2007.mydd.com/ Truthteller

    I am sure Evangelicals in Kentucky will reject a man who attended the God Damn America Church for twenty years. Those are Obama’s values, and Kentucky Democrats will reject them.

  • bamaoil

    Why, it’s fun to see him try to compete.

    He’s stupid, don’t let it get to you, a stupid person can be helpful.

    He doesn’t make it to useful idiot, but when you need a plunger, well, he’s your guy.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    Isn’t this gay-bashing?

    I am as opposed to that as I am to racism, ageism, and sexism.

  • workingclass artist

    Uppity…You have got to quit with the Pope thing…My stomache cannot handle it….LOL

  • Dave

    Nice post, AnninCA. I don’t agree with everything you’ve said, but I can see your point of view.

    But remember, Howard Dean didn’t take away FL and MI to spite Hillary. Hillary herself said in December that the Florida and Michigan primaries “weren’t going to count for anything,” because they violated DNC rules. It wasn’t until she saw she was behind that she started the campaign to make FL and MI count.

    If the tables were turned, and Obama had won those states, I’m sure he’d be doing the same thing. It’s just politics. But to say that the DNC is not allowing those votes to count just to undermine Hillary’s run for president is inaccurate.

  • bamaoil

    People just tune him out.

    It’s apparent he can’t do the job, and he has nothing to say.

    I read once about this gay prono thing, the author wrote about two guys doing the do, a sort of gay suburban platos’ retreat for the middle class homosexual, sex parties held in tract houses, anyway, these “boys” were doing the do, with the door open to one of the bedrooms, so others could watch, but they were so ugly, no one did.

    I see the same thing with this troll, so ugly, no one will even watch his PORN….

  • beebop

    The chart just needs one addition:

    “But, but, but Hillary says to vote for him ….”

    As if …

  • Clinton Fan

    Say, is that the POLITICS OF HOPE you’ve got in your pocket? It smells like something else. If anyone needs fiber, it’s you.

    Are you getting paid to try to suppress the vote, or are you just a stupid asshole all on your own? Keep it up, you’re doing a swell job of driving the herd over to the McCain ranch, there, pal–git along, little do-gies!

  • vee

    I will respectfully disagree with Senator Clinton about voting for Obama if Obama is the Democratic nominee and support McCain.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    I agree. It was “just politics” up to a point. But Obama passed that point when he insisted on caucuses first and rejected FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED primaries next and then presented his insane 50/50 proposition.

    At that point, he lost me entirely. He really deserves the criticism that he’s willing to steal the election.

    By the way, you do know he’s on record in FL as saying he would work to seat the delegates. He said that to the press after a fund-raiser.

    Neither candidate ever signed a pledge agreeing to disenfranchise the voters. They did agree to not campaign in those states. She actually kept to the bargain much better than he did.

    He set up phone banks with Edwards to “get out the vote” for the uncommitted, which most politicos will tell you, is the hardest opponent of ALL! He ran ads continuously in FL.

    But that aside, the fact is that he’s denied her the reality, which is she IS now ahead of him in popular vote.

    And that’s the fact of the matter.

    The Democratic Party is about to name him, and he’s behind already in the popular vote.

    Check out CNN’s latest on-line poll and see what the public thinks. They think popular vote is far fairer of a measurement than delegate count.

    Truly……he has not won the will of the people in the Democratic party, and it doesn’t matter how many East Coast liberals he trots out as endorsements.

    We all know it.

    It’s depressing as heck.

  • http://intentionally-blank.blogspot.com/ LBJ’s Love Child

    Five states violated the Rules and moved their caucus/primary dates up. Why were only two punished?

    And how come Obama supporter Brazile is the one who pushed hard for the Rules Committee to take away ALL the delegates in FL and MI, when the “Rules” only call for a 50% reduction? Why was the schedule so important to her? And don’t tell me Santa Claus.

  • kenoshaMarge

    You are right AnninCa. I know better and I know it’s a waste of time, energy and space. But I hate the bastards so much I give in. You chastise us rightly.

  • http://deleted AnninCA

    I think all of us have to find our own personal solution this year.

    I’ve decided to turn lemons into lemonade.

    I’ve decided my own straight-ticket Democratic voting pattern of 30 years was, in fact, a bit on the lazy side. LOL* I felt smug.

    And I’ve decided that I was, in fact, ignoring a great many really fine people because the label wasn’t right.

    No more. I’ve got the time now. I’m going to truly research the candidates.

    And I’m going to ignore the label.

    If I’m going to be an Independent, then I intend to be a responsible one. :)

  • Myshiba

    Obama will never, ever, ever get my vote! PERIOD!
    Maybe I don’t count because I’m a registered independent but if Hillary isn’t the nominee . . .it’s McCain for me!

  • Tricia

    That’s why they sent out all the leaflets of Obama standing at a pulpit.

    What happened to the separation of church and state?

    Oh, I forgot..Obama practices black separatism.

  • beebop

    But several plans have been floated to REVOTE them an Obama is the one who always stands in the way. How can you as a Democrat support what amounts to voter suppression? Isn’t that how we got Bush for God’s sake? That is the non-starter with me for Obama. He’d rather undermine the foundation of the Democratic party than trust voters. What an ass. Good people marched, fought and died for the right to vote. He is turning the clock back.

  • Myshiba

    Obama is a spineless incompetent . . .NOBAMA EVER!

  • mimi

    Somebody was telling people to go ask MLK on the other thread. So yeah, I guess: “they see dead people.”

  • JEN

    Thanks for saying this. This is exactly how I feel.

  • beebop

    I am with you on that.

    I did not vote for a couple of races on the ballot merely because I hadn’t done the work to see what their positions were. Not in November. I fully intend to be an educated Independent voter, not a straight ticket Democrat. If Clinton is not an option, Ohio is an important battleground state so I will vote McCain.

  • Clinton Fan

    He’s doing a great job of pushing voters AWAY from his so-called hero, certainly. If that’s an “Obama supporter” who in their right mind would want anything to do with assholes like that?

    He’s not just a troll, he’s a STUPID troll. But then, most of them are.

  • http://intentionally-blank.blogspot.com/ LBJ’s Love Child

    The flier is amazing. There’s a picture of Obama standing under a stained-glass window of an afro-centric Jesus… the Jesus of Black Liberation Theology. That’ll go over big with the crackers.

    But I think the flier is really meant to stop any possible erosion in Black Churches. The vast majority of Black Church leaders are not comfortable with Cone/Wright theology… because it’s not Christian. So Obama is trying to hoodwink them.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Rural Oregon will not like it either.

  • beebop

    I find that the greater the number who come here, the worse it is for Barry. When he’s tanking, they are all here spreading their poo.

  • mimi

    Nothing. I am a voter with the inalienable right to choose. It’s my right in a democracy. I do not choose Obama!

    WIN WITHOUT ME!

    Do I need to write it 100X on the blackboard for you to get my drift????

    Geez, the obtuse are plentiful today!

  • workingclass artist

    OT…Just heard on NPR California Supreme Court overturned the state ban on same sex marriage…This is headed for the SCOTUS…
    Big Congrats for all Gays and Lesbians….My Twin Brother is gay and we will celebrate…Almost as good as when they srtuck the sod law in Texas…
    What about that Obama….Will you meet with the Gay Press Now ?

  • Kefa

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4861699&page=1

    AND SO IT STARTS

    Obama Helped Supporters Get Millions in Illinois State Business

  • workingclass artist

    You are correct….even the Baptists would’nt take Wright….It is a christian heresy…

  • Lute

    Congrats. I don’t know what the big deal is about gay marriage.
    I just wish Repugs would stop making it a key issue right before a national election. Public would accept it if the Repugs would ever chill.

  • Clinton Fan

    Don’t be bothered by them. They THINK they’re working for Axlerod; they’re actually working for McCain.

    Insulting progressives isn’t the way to persuade them to vote for a weak, effete, faux liberal dirty Chicago pol with ties to coal, nuke power, and General Dynamics, who has a crew of gay-hating preachers touting him. But that’s all these morons do–go shit on any board that isn’t “Obama is Jesus” and think that they’re somehow doing Obama’s work. They aren’t. They’re doing McCAIN’s work.

    Fucking simple tools–just LAUGH at them! Tell them to send some money to NARAL, because NARAL isn’t getting a dime from the likes of US anymore!

  • Lute

    do you have a link to the Hillary quote?
    otherwise, I won’t believe for a minute that she made that statement.

  • Ga6thDem

    Does anyone else get the impression that the DNC might be raining down on Obama to perform better or they’ll nominate Hillary? They certainly seem to be pulling out all the stops. And he will most certainly fail.

  • http://truthteller2007.mydd.com/ Truthteller

    With all the resources the DNC has handed him, he should win Kentucky. If he does not, I hope superdelegates will finally begin to scrutinize this man’s candidacy.

  • typicalbubba

    Can you spot the Democrat in this picture?

    The Senate, operating under unanimous-consent rules, passed the legislation yesterday afternoon with no debate and with only three members present.

    Obama joined with Frist and ? to put the senate on the same page as Delay and Hastert. This must be an example of his mysterious power over unrepentant Repblicans.

    Obama now admits this was a mistake, but listen to how dishonestly he does it. Here’s an account in the Orlando Sentinel:

    When asked what votes or actions he regrets in his career, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois cited the Schiavo case, where Congress attempted to intervene.
    “Well, you know, when I first arrived at the Senate — in the Senate that first year, we had a situation surrounding Terri Schiavo. And I remember how we adjourned with a unanimous agreement that eventually allowed Congress to interject itself into that decision-making process of the families.
           “It wasn’t something I was comfortable with, but it was not something that I stood on the floor and stopped. And I think that was a mistake, and I think the American people understood that that was a mistake. And as a constitutional law professor, I knew better.”

    How dishonest! All the wiggle words. He just drove up. It was a situation. He remembers (!) “a unanimous agreement that eventually allowed Congress to interject itself…”
    Years later, the distinguished “constitutional law professor” realizes he should not have supported a law aimed at one person. He should not have joined Senator Frist in moving jurisdiction from the state to the federal level.

    Tell Oregon, which has twice confirmed that we don’t want the Republicans making medical decisions for us, that not only was Obama in cahoots with the Republicans on this, but then he wasn’t even honest about his role.

  • Lute

    good link. I wish someone would pass it on to the New York Slimes.

  • beebop

    No comments yet. Did you notice that the three pictures there at the ABC site were all for non favorable Obama stories? The tide maybe changing. Tsunami anyone?

  • swannyj

    Obama and MSM are swine. He is fighting but he doesn’t have the guts to admit it. Why anyone would think he would fight for middle class issues is beyond me. I do hope the folks in Kentucky do not fall for it.

  • llamajockey

    Larry,

    Do you have any specific polls on how Barack vs Hillary vs McCain do among Americans regardless of race or sex with military experience.

    Having grown up a Hoosier in Indianapolis one of the things that really angers me about how the Media has interpreted the racial voting patterns of Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio and WV.

    Downstate IN & OH and Kentucky and WV have to have some of the country’s highest rates of military enlistment in the nation. I don’t care what color you are, these people are not going to be comfortable with anybody who is not unabashedly and unself-consciously patriotic. If you don’t get teary eyed during the National Anthem or watching a John Wayne classic for that matter, people are going to think something is serious wrong about your character and fitness for office.

    My point is Obama problem is that he has from day one projected himself as a trans-nationalist horticulturalist, post-enlightenment, narcissist, Marxist theorizing post modern child of the new left. And don’t think for a minute average American do not pick up on that.

    Folks are sick of this New Lefty, “We are all just a nation of immigrants” horseshit. WE ARE A NATION OF AMERICANS. Dam It!!!

    The Race factor is way over stated.

    Everybody need to see the outstanding PBS Carrier documentary. You very quickly appreciate that “Scotch-Irish”, Hillbillies, Rednecks, what ever you want to call them, working side by side along with AAs and Latinos form the backbone of our military. Racism is not tolerated .

    These “Typical White Folks” have had far more real human trans racial bonding than the Latte Liberal Obamabots who aspire to a phony lifestyle epitomized by the series “Friends” ever will.

    God I wish somebody could rub the condescending Obamabots faces in that fact.

  • indypol

    100 KY Leaders endorse HRC :

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/13175/2027

    This is the beginning of an anti-Edwards backlash. Obama is toast.

  • Ellen D.

    An ad I can believe in:

    This is a typical white guy politician. I’d like to tell you about my friend, Barack Obama, although I don’t really known much about him except what his campaign tells me. However, that doesn’t matter because once you vote for him, he’ll be like family to us – distant family.

    Barack was raised by his white mom and white grandparents. Ignore the two Muslim guys his mom was married to as well as his father’s other wives. Muslims can do that. Barak has reinvented himself many times. Something Kentuckians can relate to. Now, as a strong Christian, Barack’s always stood up for people… unless he decides they are a liability. After college he worked on a step plan to get elected to ever higher office… passing up big jobs on Wall Street.

    That’s why Barack’s economic plan will help our families struggling to pay the bills. Who needs Wall Street experience? Or any other experience for that matter?

    Barack will end tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas and instead create jobs here in Kentucky. And his plan gives middle class families a 1000-dollar tax break. And he will solve our state’s problems with the Great Lakes.

    This is typical white guy politician. I know Barack Obama is a man of great character who loves this country as much as we do – his wife told me so. He’s change we can believe in, as long as you don’t ask what that is . And Kentucky needs it. Michelle told me that too.

  • typicalbubba

    “It was not something I stood on the floor and stopped…”

    Arrrgh! There were 3 of you, Obama. You, Bill Frist and someone else, presumably a Republican. I’m guessing they needed a member of the other party to get this nasty bit of business done. What a disgrace.

  • sandyR

    I wish someone would investigate the Cook County election crap. I grew up outside of Chicago. Chicago is famous for rigged elections. Why isn’t anyone looking into this? I tried, and lacking a really good computer, I didn’t get far. Andy Martin pointed out that in the early voting in Chicago, the touch screen machines were defaulting to Obama and to the candidate that was running against Martin. Although Martin had this article on it where he had written a letter asking for a review of the machines and the vote, I saw nothing else on this issue. How many people voted Democrat who were actually live democrats? What percentage of democrats in cook county voted to give those results? If it is like 95% of all registered democrats, that stinks to high heaven. No primary turns out that high of numbers in voters.

  • http://deleted Kathleen

    AnninCA,

    Excellent post. I, too, have been totally disillusioned with the DNC. What they are doing is brokering the nomination process in favor of Obama and usurping the will of the people.

    Actually, I think they have been doing this for a long time, it’s just now that we have a woman vying for the Presidency that we see what is driving their egregious abuse of power — misogny that’s been under the surface of those we once believed were allies of women and believed in “equality”.

    Well, now we know. I really am heartened to hear of these women in Ohio “ClintonSupportersCount” who will be releasing a Press Release regarding the over the top sexism and misognystic attacks against Hillary that have been mind boggling. There is also another group called “WomenCount” — a newly formed pac that is presently preparing to release a statement in various news outlets, starting today, that says “Not So Fast” and then goes on to advocate the counting of the MI & FL votes and delegates and Hillary’s staying in the race until every vote is counted from all 50 states!

    I believe it will take “women power” to stop the “coup” now taking place within the DNC and the power elites and to make certain the best candidate wins the democratic nomination. It seems one of the reasons they fear a Clinton presidency is because it would be more in tune with an FDR administration that advocate policies which empowers the middle class. My grave concern is to be against that means only that they want to break the back of the middle class economically in order to control them completely. This is not what democracy looks like!

    I have absolutely no faith that an Obama administration will anything for the middle class. I believe this based on the old guard who support him must have an agenda and I fear it will be one that will totally destroy the grand experiment that is America and will be the beginning of a “one world government” controlled totally by corporations throughout the world. Obama’s senior foreign policy advisor is Zbigniew Brezinski, who co-founded The Trilateral Commission in 1973 with David Rockefeller. Hardly 2 guys you’d believe would be for middle class empowerment. On the contrary, I believe they seek the opposite and Obama is just the front man to help them complete their plan.

    These are but a few of the reasons I’ve spent all of my vacation money on the Clinton campaign, have caucused for her in the corrupt state of Texas, became a delegate for her at the county level and made calls for her campaign. I’m frightened for my country and feel that I must do everything I possibly can to stop the nightmare that will be upon us if Obama gets the nomination. Both he and McCain are not good for the country, but I feel that Obama would be far more dangerous of the two.

    It’s just got to be Hillary!

  • Karma

    Larry,

    My husband drives up to Oregon weekly. As far as the religious aspect, I-5 is lined with religious billboards. I guess they are the only ones with money to advertize on freeway signs.

    In terms of political signs he sees Ron Paul everywhere and it’s been that way for months. There has only seen one tractor trailer with a large Obama sign on the trailer, not endorsed. That happened just recently.

    When he speaks with people, he hasn’t seen a lot of solid support for Obama. Of course, these are all hard working middle class people of all colors.

    He even does his part to inject some reality on the Obama supporters. ;)

    I’ll ask him if the Obama campaign has stepped up radio ads, signs, flyers, etc. He gets back today.

  • Ellen Tenn

    My family is from Kentucky. They might not all have fancy degrees but they are the most welcoming, kind, hard working people I know. Hopefully they will vote for a person who does not make fun of them but stands up for all people! Go Hillary!

  • sandyR

    GREAT NEWS!!!THANK YOU FOR THAT!!!!!F-ING
    HELL, I THOUGHT THAT THE CA SUPREMES WERE LOOKING WIMPY…. BUT, HELL NO!!! GOOD FOR YOU CALIFORNIA!!!!

    (CAPITAL LETTERS FOR ONCE DESERVED!!!)

  • Musashi

    Personally, I can’t reward race baiting and sexism. I support Clinton, but it’s my vote not hers.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Flo is now under moderation.

  • sandyR

    Kefa, your capital letter are also deserved. Didn’t mean to put down capital letter for Hillary.
    It’s those freakin trolls (icky little farts that they are).

  • Percy

    Love Hillary and still voting for McCain.

    Obama lost my vote on his own accord… and that is how he would have to win it back and it is far too late.

    I will take 4 years of John and Cindy McCain over Obama and Michelle anyday.

    We would be the laughing stocks to his big bamboozle if we send him to the White House.

    The Elitist of the Democratic Party need to wake up.

    I don’t like be used… and abused and then expected to fall in line.

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    Why do you respond to the trolls who are just argueing for the sake of taking up time and space here? it keeps others from reading here so they leave which is what the tolls want. please just ignore them and don’t let them ruin this site

  • JoeCHI

    Obama and Edwards MUST WIN KENTUCKY.

    If not, look for a Gore endorsement in Florida on the following day.

  • beebop

    If Al Gore could keep quiet while voters were being ignored in Florida, he can kiss my ass.

  • blueasthesky

    If there’s an appeal, SCOTUS will deny cert. It’s a state court ruling on a state law under the state constitution.

  • jyotinc

    To Kentucky and Oregon,

    Please don’t fall for this kind of adds. Use your common sense and love for our country. If this man had a hard time putting his hand on his heart to show his love for our country and only right now his placing flag on his lapel for expediency; then it only demonstrate his hypocrisy he is not the one who can lead us for greatness.

  • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

    It’s obvious in retrospect, right?

  • workingclass artist

    Bully for You Oregon !…..Fuck OBAMA….

  • Coral

    Thursday, May 15, 2008
    Obama Picks Up a Cross — Just for Kentucky!

    Instapundit is reporting that an Obama brochure for Kentucky’s primary features Obama standing next to a life-size cross. Obama manages to combine Mike Huckabee’s pandering to evangelical voters with none of the subtlety of the subliminal cross Huckabee supposedly used in his TV ads. No, Obama’s cross is big, bold and brassy

  • Lute

    This summer, my family has decided on a road trip from PA, to WV, and on to KY.
    It will be great to see that part of the country, and meet the people who have the guts to not take orders from CNN, MSNBC, and Howard Dean.

  • TeakWoodKite

    “weren’t going to count for anything,”

    If you read or heard the rest of that quote, Senator Clinton stated that it was WRONG for them not to count and BE COUNTED!

    Get your facts straight.

  • http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

    Those are two very good political approaches to Oboma’s elitist problem.

    The grandkid of a couple that had a house on Mercer Island, sold the Seattle furniture store for a bushel of money and retired to Hawaii

    becomes

    “Barack’s story is a uniquely American story. He was raised by a single mom and his grandparents from Kansas.” (Granny hustled rivets at the Lazy B too. Cool)

    Now if they can turn that a mansion in that exclusive Chicago neighborhood into a log cabin, the kid just might get elected.

    Memo to Davy Axelrod:

    1. Bib overalls would help.

    2. And chewin’ tabakkey.

    3. Teach the kid to spit

    4. Forget the Stetson (the Dumbo ears problem, ya know)

  • workingclass artist

    You could be right…Seems to be on track though…We shall see…..Mayor of SF had to pop a cork of champs over that…

  • Madison

    That bothers me, too. The cross behind him.

  • Dina

    This is pretty much what the cross brosure Obama is sending to up in ky.

    Thursday, May 15, 2008
    Obama Picks Up a Cross — Just for Kentucky!

    Instapundit is reporting that an Obama brochure for Kentucky’s primary features Obama standing next to a life-size cross. Obama manages to combine Mike Huckabee’s pandering to evangelical voters with none of the subtlety of the subliminal cross Huckabee supposedly used in his TV ads. No, Obama’s cross is big, bold and brassy.

    Obama’s brochure states that after graduating from college, Obama became a community organizer on the Southside of Chicago. And then,

    Obama forged a profound connection with the people of these communities. At their encouragement, he visited a local church one Sunday. That day Obama felt a beckoning of the spirit and accepted Jesus Christ into his life.

    Wow! He became “born again” after just one Sunday. This is the fastest conversion experience since the Lord blinded St. Paul on the Road to Damascus.

    The brocure doesn’t identify the church, but it is in the same locale as the Rev. Wright’s church.

    Obama has even changed his mantra on the brochure from “Hope and Change” to “Faith. Hope. Change.” (Emphasis added.) If that sounds familiar, it’s because St. Paul wrote something like it in his first letter to the Corinthians –only the epistle does not say”change.” Rather, the Corinthian verse is “faith, hope and love abide, these three, and the greatest of these is love.” Only Obama would have the gall to edit Paul.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Ariel Capital and Loop Capital…

    Look where Resko and Auchi funds went..then compare.

  • Doral

    Obama’s Second Coming to the ‘Ville

    Barack Obama returned to Kentucky for the second time since August, this time to a crowd of thousands that included the requisite fainting damsels. I was not there, but Jim has a round-up of Demo-blog hysteria.

    I watched WHAS 11′s coverage at 11:00 and was fascinated by the lack of substance. They started with Renee Murphy, confirming that, yes, Obama really is like a “rock star.”

    Then they showed the tender side of the Great One caring for his people as they swooned in ecstasy: Obama threw out bottles of water. (Close up of friends of fainting women: some ducked, while others dove for the bottle like they were bridesmaids going after the bouquet.)

    Next he made the sea of people part for the EMTs. Just in case the Holy Water didn’t revive the stricken, Obama asked if anyone had fruit juice in their back packs for the fainters.

    The moment seemed to symbolize Obama’s health care policy. He’ll tend to the sick and unprepared by raiding the purses of others.

  • workingclass artist

    Ooooohhh…Ellen…..clever…..chuckle….I think you should add that If you vote for Obama….his supporters will fix you computers….Free….

  • Doral

    Comment by Bill Delyon | 2008-05-15 11:37:07

    Dear Kentucky and Oregon,

    Please vote for Clinton.
    …………………………………………………
    If you can get on any Ky sites and blog against Obama.

    Oh, most people I talk to in Ky are not voting for Obama.

  • workingclass artist

    I will loan him my increasingly bitter dog Harry…( under sedation )…Dogs look good in those kind of ads….I’ll pimp my dog for a NEW CAR….I already have an IPOD…

  • TeakWoodKite

    he’ll be like family to us.

    in the context of how Obama wants his minions to frame this, If a white guy said this, there is a inference that Obama is a ? You know what I want to say?

    Property? especially considerin gthe use of the word “like” …

    “Please don’t be afraid to invite him in to the house…”

    UHG what crap.

  • workingclass artist

    Well…Paul was kinda minor….Don’t ya think ?….chuckle….

  • workingclass artist

    OMG….Was it OFFICIALLY BLESSED OBAMESSIAH HOLY WATER….Pray Tell ?

  • TeakWoodKite

    I was up in Medford a week before Senator Clinton was there and saw two freeway signs for BO (10 x6),

    No Clinton signs.

  • Talktruth

    These ads are full of lies. I think whatever we send to Oregon and Kentucky needs to contain corrections, for example, about his growing up without too much money. More importantly, we need to address his character, or lack of it. We all know of BO’s shady associations that speak volumes about who this man really is – and isn’t.

    What would be really funny is another radio spot, written for the same time frame, that tells the truth. “Barack’s bigamist father, abandoned the family…(skip to end)…his friends, God D$#% America and Stomp on the Flag.”

  • Michigander

    Obama has simply not been vetted enough. There are too many questions which will be brought up in the General Election. http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/
    The mainstream media has been a disappointment. But I guess it makes sense that they will do as their Republican corporate owners ask. The Republicans want Obama because he will be the easiest to beat in the General Election. http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election
    I’m hoping the Americans left to vote in the Primary can get more information than other voters because there’s tons of buyers remorse out there. I have my hopes pinned on this. Hillary 08

  • bamaoil

    No, ignoring the trolls doesn’t work, they don’t go away, that’s been tried.

    When you see a pest, you must confront, or use it.

  • bamaoil

    Sorry, Ellen, posted in the wrong place…

  • workingclass artist

    Ehemmm…..I am not so pure….Sometimes I enjoy hurling at the trolls…Scuse’….How very working class of me….chuckle….

  • FloridaDem

    The people of Ky are smarter than to vote for Obama. You know why?

    “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,” Obama bashing small town America.

    Kentucky people have not forgotten, have long memories and they will remember on election day. Want a real treat? Watch O’Riley tonight as a group of Ohio women are coming out against Obama and organizing all over the USA.

  • yttik

    I like and respect Clinton, but there’s no way in hell I’m going to vote for Obama. In fact, I’ll actively campaign against him.

  • yheitman

    I just read a very reasonable article and the person was saying that it is insane to just vote a straight ticket like Democrat or Republican. He went on to make the point that voting a straight ticket doesn’t make sense because one party doesn’t have all the answers. Parties make mistakes and why should you just hold your nose and vote your straight party ticket when there are so many choices out there. What is it with you people who say you are “Democrats” (as I am and have been for 30 years) and can’t vote for anyone else. Open your eyes! If Hillary isn’t the nominee I’m voting for McCain because I will never accept that lying fraud Obama in the White House. The only thing I can do on my part to stop this is to change my vote to Republican. I respectfully disagree with Hillary to go for Obama if she isn’t the nominee. There is no reason to “have to” vote your party if you don’t like what they put up for you. I’m certainly not going to do that. I trust McCain a hell of a lot more than I would ever trust Obama.

  • Doral

    This is from a Louisville ky television station poll.

    Will John Edwards’ Obama endorsement do much to improve the Illinois senator’s presidential prospects in Kentucky?
    It’ll be a tremendous help
    14%

    It’ll help, but not much to close the significant gap with Hillary Clinton
    14%

    Too little, too late
    71%

  • Left of center

    The biggest problem isn’t the cross behind him, it’s the stained glass black Jesus behind him in the other photo. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll30/EconGradStud/Barack.jpg

  • TeakWoodKite

    No offense yheitman intended, but can ya stop with the bold?

  • Michigander

    Ellen D liked your comment about the Great Lakes. Didn’t hear Obama mention the Great Lakes in the speech he made in Grand Rapids, Michigan (aka, Great Lakes state). Glad to know Kentucky and Oregon are getting help with that issue. :)
    On a more serious note many Michiganders are disgusted by how the DNC has treated us with special help from Obama and Brazille. I feel like our civil rights are being violated. The details of our situation have been totally misreported by the media. And I’m sure Texans and others are disappointed in the poorly run caucuses and conventions. It’s sad that the “greatest Democracy” in the world can’t run fair elections any more. It seems like there were a lot of aggressive techniques used to ensure Obama would win these. Primaries are the only way to go and all states must be counted! This election has been a sham where the caucuses and some conventions are concerned.

  • workingclass artist

    I heard there was serious talk of Impeaching Blagovitch…If they do it will lay all of Ill. open….maybe….

  • Talktruth

    That’s inappropriate.

  • pm317

    Actually, I did look at the number of registered voters in Cook county and did the numbers, and of course, none of it added up. The registered voters are something like 1.3 million, that includes both Dems and Repubs. Do a generous 75/25 split between the two and I think the turnout was something like 42-43% and then compare the vote LEAD for Obama, about 429,000 votes — that is the margin and not the raw counts, so absolute vote counts for the candidates will be higher. If you add it all up, it comes out more than the turnout — do you believe in dead people voting? York’s article is the first that mentions Cook county vote margin. No one else is talking about it.

    Same thing about Lake County, IN but I think the Mayor was caught before he could do more damage — 15,000 absentee ballots where the normal is a 1000?

  • CognitiveDissonance

    I’m an Oregonian and haven’t seen these Obama religious flyers here. I really don’t think they would play well with most people. He’s made a number of appearances, but so has Hillary. And Bill has been all over the place. I was almost shocked to hear that he had made a stop in the tiny town I grew up in (population 3,500 when I lived there).

    However, Obama has been outspending Hillary in TV ads by a huge margin. I sometimes see 4 of his ads every hour when I have the TV on. I see 1 Hillary ad to every 10 Obama ads at the least. I keep hearing that the polls show Obama ahead here, but I don’t see it where I’m at. I see no Obama yard signs, no canvassers, etc. I’m sure most of his support is in Portland and Eugene. But I live in Salem, the state capitol, and see no presence. I really don’t have a sense of how the vote will go. I heard that the ballots so far sent in are just 1 point apart. Anyone who does calling could make a difference here.

  • pm317

    Thank you!

  • typicalbubba

    Please do an ad in Oregon on this. It’s got it all. It’s got Obama siding with the Republicans to insert Congress into a family’s medical care decision. Then it shows Obama acting like a TYPICAL politician trying to explain it all away. It shows him against the death with dignity act that Oregon voters upheld twice. It shows how he’ll “get along” with Republicans. It shows him flip-flopping on constitutional law and making miserable excuses for yet another case of poor judgement.

    Here’s the fact Obama doesn’t want you to know in his 2008 admission that his support of the Republicans on the Terri Schiavo case was a mistake. There were only three members present. To quote Ron White, They’d met.

    The Senate, operating under unanimous-consent rules, passed the legislation yesterday afternoon with no debate and with only three members present.

    Obama joined with Frist and ? to put the senate on the same page as Delay and Hastert. Obama now admits this was a mistake, but listen to how dishonestly he does it. Here’s an account in the Orlando Sentinel

    When asked what votes or actions he regrets in his career, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois cited the Schiavo case, where Congress attempted to intervene.
    “Well, you know, when I first arrived at the Senate — in the Senate that first year, we had a situation surrounding Terri Schiavo. And I remember how we adjourned with a unanimous agreement that eventually allowed Congress to interject itself into that decision-making process of the families.
           “It wasn’t something I was comfortable with, but it was not something that I stood on the floor and stopped. And I think that was a mistake, and I think the American people understood that that was a mistake. And as a constitutional law professor, I knew better.”

    How dishonest! All the wiggle words. He just drove up. It was “a situation.” He “remembers”(!). The passive voice, “a unanimous agreement that eventually allowed Congress to interject itself….” He wasn’t “comfortable with” something that he did when it was politically expedient, but then later, as a “constitutional law professor” he remembers that, oopsie, he shouldn’t have supported a law aimed at one person. He should not have joined Senator Frist in moving jurisdiction from the state to the federal level.

  • yheitman

    Sorry TeakWoodKite but my eyesight is really truly failing me and I need new glasses.

  • workingclass artist

    Well done pm317….thanks….

  • 2008nowosci

    then is ABOUT time, for a real investigatiOn. I just don’t understand, how this guy can do all this, and no one is trying to stop HIM, are WE scare,do we wnat the same as we have??? it will BE much worse. I live in communist, it will be worse, Middele East will take US over. How He become so powerful,DID any one saw this, who is behind , time to start asking real questions, befor is to late??? Is Hillary blackmail by those people??? Look at Obama behavior, look at His ignorance. LOOK,LOOK,LOOK!!!!!!! START PAYING ATTENTION, WAKE UP!!!!

  • 2008nowosci

    MY SISTER AND MY FRIEND ARE GAYS, WE WILL CELEBRATE A BIG TIME, FINALLY WE HAVE SOMEONE IN CALIFORNIA, WITH BRAIN!!!

  • helen

    does anyone remember a time when a candidate’s supporters trashed the other candidate’s supporters like this primary?
    Does anyone remember when the people of different states, who gave blood and treasure to make this country great where trashed like this primary?
    The DNC sits on its hands and in some cases like Donna Brazille encourage it.
    That is why after 48 years as a democrat I made my decision to leave the party. I can not be a part of a party that shows no respect for the people of this country.
    I will vote for Hillary Clinton or no one. I will look very close at the down ticket democrats. If they are Obama supporters I will not vote for them because I can not trust their judgement.

  • 2008nowosci

    DO YOU KNOW, WHAT “BO’ MEENS??? PLEASE, STOP TELLING ANYONE TO VOTE FOR OBAMA, BECAUSE YOU ARE HILLARY SUPPORTER. SUPPORTER OF OBAMA FIRST THEY TRASHING US, AND THEN CALL US FOR HELP, NO WAY HOSE!!!
    INDEPENDENCE PARTY IS WAITINHG FOR HILLARY, i AM GOING BACK TO iNDEPENDENCE, i ONLY CHANGE MY INDEPENDENT PARTY TO DEMOCRATIC PARTY, BECAUSE I AM SUPPORTING HILLARY. i AM VOTING FOR A CANDIDATE NOT FOR PARTY. AND I STAY BEHIND HILLARY ALL THE WAY!!!

  • http://speaktruth speaktruth

    I agree.
    Run, Hillary, Run. Good slogan. We all need someone who represents us. Why would anyone who voted for her not want her to run?
    Well, I guess they think she’ll divide the Dem party and McCain will win.
    Well, party’s already divided, McCain may win anyway. I don’t want either one of them, have no one to vote for, to root for if he is nominee. Same as many others.
    Have there been any polls about who breaks for whom if she does run? How about some polls? Give this idea some legitamacy.
    Run, Hillary, Run. Like it.

  • hillarysmygirl

    I saw that, too! Very encouraging!

  • 2008nowosci

    SHE SAID, BECAUSE SHE HAS NO OTHER CHOICE, READ BETWEEN LINES, AND YOU WILL FIND A WORD”NO”
    FOR THE FIRST TIME , SOMEONE FROM OBAMAS SIDE IS AGREEING WITH HER. VERY CALCULATED, BUT YOU WONT FOOL US. WE STAY WITH HILLARY ALL THE WAYG THAT THE BEST FRIEND IS THAT ONE, WHO SUPPORTS YOU ESPECJALLY IN VERY TOUGH TIMES, NOT WHEN EVERYTHING IS GREAT. WE WILL SUPPORT HER AFTER ELECTION IS OVER, WE WILL STAY WITH HER!!!

  • american sawbuck

    You are correct.
    obama supporters = stupid

  • 2008nowosci

    SO, THERE WE GO AGAIN, AS ALLWAYS OBAMA IS WAITING FOR HILLARY REMARKS, AND THEN HE USE AS HIS. AS ALLWAYS. HE IS JUST HILLARYS “IDEAS THIEF”.

  • 2008nowosci

    IT WAS UNNESESARY, UGLY, TERRIBLE. OU DON’T NEED TO BE A SUCH UGLY PERSON. STOP NOW!!!!!!

  • http://speaktruth speaktruth

    I believe this quote is out of context and that the gist of her statement was to say that they should count. You should not be quoting that without the context.
    She only signed statement not to campaign, not to say they shouldn’t count. Then Obama did campaign by running 1.2 million TV ads.
    Don’t make things up. It makes his campaign look even worse.

  • 2008nowosci

    YES, SOMEONE DID VERY CLEARLY!! WE WILL CELEBRATE WITH HILLARY…

  • 2008nowosci

    YES FLO, YOU ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
    I AM ASKING ALL HILLARY SUPPORTERS, NOT TO WRITE HATEFUL MESSAGES, OR USE UGLY WORDS. DO NOT GO AS LOW, AS OBAMAS FUNS, DON’T DO THIS, WE CAN PROOF THAT WE ARE BETTER!!! WE DONT NEED TO BE NASTY, TO PROOF THAT WE ARE RIGHT!!!

  • american sawbuck

    I always smell the air of desperation from these obama trolls.
    We have Hillary or if worse comes to worse McCain…they have only their Precious the booby prize..

  • http://speaktruth speaktruth

    This really is the perfect for her to run as Independent. Dem party has thrown out millions of voters and has treated Hillary and Bill terribly – no appreciation, no respect.
    I do believe she has a good chance of winning as third party – which is why so many trolls hate the idea. She’d get both Dems and Repubs. Lots of people don’t like either man. So many Repub women would vote for first woman president.
    In my work I deal with varied groups of women. The one way I can always bond them is our role as women. Repub women are aware of how we’ve been screwed as women. That’s why they’re coming out in record numbers. In the privacy of voting booth they defy husbands and Repub families for the person they know represents them best.
    Women, 54% of voters? Plus, all the men who like her, dislike the others. I think in a three-way race she could take it. And if she loses it would shake up both those guys, they’d be most afraid of her. I would love to see it. They’d get together to attack her again. Hah. Bad for both of them. It would so cool – both scared of the girl.

  • http://speaktruth speaktruth

    Yes, except for one thing.
    Vote Hillary now and in the fall.
    McCain and Obama are both bad for this country.

  • Dina

    Obamas bittergate remark is still around in Ky. I found this advertisement for tonight.

    The “Bitter Clingers” NRA National Convention Comes To Louisville

    The National Rifle Association is holding its biggest event of the year, starting tonight, in Louisville Kentucky when it brings its “Celebration of American Values” annual meeting and convention to the Bluegrass State.

  • Jim

    RE: Trolls

    It makes sense that they are coming here to post now, after all it gets a little boring talking to your mirror image over there at HuffPuff.

  • 2008nowosci

    finally someone is agreing with me… DNC turn their back on Middle class, blue colar workers, on Unions,, poor, disable…..
    with party we will be supporting??? DNC, just can not,NO more respect for DNC and Haward Dean, Edwards play His game to, lost my respect,….

  • 2008nowosci

    absolutely right. Hillary all the way, no metter what it takes, be Your self ,an we will fallow!!!!\Obama plage His alliance with muslem world while on vacation in kenia. His family directly connected with blody junta there. Bloody Kenias junta,Mr.Wright,Franakhan,Rezko,Hamas this is very scary!!!

  • Chris in Kentucky

    I am in Kentucky and I just want to ask everyone to PLEASE come and volunteer for Hillary in our great Commonwealth. The people of Kentucky very much want to give Hillary a big win, so please sign up to help. We make calls everyday and you can call from anywhere in the country, so please help Kentucky win for Hillary.

    Thank you from Kentucky.

  • suzibee

    PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    KENTUCKY AND OREGON!!!!

    EVERY SINGLE VOTE MATTERS..ONE VOTE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!

    WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP NOMINATE HILLARY!!!!!
    I HAVE BEEN CALLING AND BLOGGING AND WRITING NEWSPAPERS…

    FOR THE LOVE OF THIS COUNTRY – VOTE SMART…
    VOTE HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    COME ON EVERYONE!!!!!!!
    WE CAN DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • bell

    Just letting all of you know, I am in KY and heading out the door now to go see the “Big Dawg” He is in our little town tonight. Let you all know later how it went.

  • stodghie

    remember the law suit the now former district attorney in houston took to the supreme court? of course, it wasn’t his finest hour.

  • Hope

    Don’t expect the hippies of Oregon to vote for Hillary. These people are in their own world up there. Sorry to say this but it is true.

  • http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/pledge-to-vote-against-obama-in-the-general-election Dave S.

    Hillary is ahead in the popular vote.

    Hillary is ahead in the electoral votes.

    Hillary won the big states.

    Hillary is experienced and has a record of accomplishments. BO has neither.

    Hillary’s close friends don’t include an anti-American terrorist bomber, crooked Iraqis, Chicago crooks, Farrakhan, and the Black Panthers. And, she didn’t sit in front of an anti-American racist preacher for 20 years, who Oprah has sense enough to leave, but Obama is a bit slow.

    Obama is a loser. If you can’t see it now, you will when you congratulate McCain.

    If we have to wait 4 years for a great president like Clinton, we will. We will not vote for a corrupt, lying, charlatan.

    If you want to see more reasons why we won’t vote for BO go to:

    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/pledge-to-vote-against-obama-in-the-general-election

  • Nellie

    Yes – thank you.

  • Keri

    I don’t think Obama will even win my hometown of Louisville, KY. I’m not seeing many yard signs or bumper stickers for him here- lots more for Hillary. None for McCain. Those ads are so dishonest. Obama grew up elite

  • Grace

    “Comment by helen | 2008-05-15 15:22:22

    does anyone remember a time when a candidate’s supporters trashed the other candidate’s supporters like this primary?
    Does anyone remember when the people of different states, who gave blood and treasure to make this country great where trashed like this primary?
    The DNC sits on its hands and in some cases like Donna Brazille encourage it.
    That is why after 48 years as a democrat I made my decision to leave the party. I can not be a part of a party that shows no respect for the people of this country.
    I will vote for Hillary Clinton or no one. I will look very close at the down ticket democrats. If they are Obama supporters I will not vote for them because I can not trust their judgement.”

    yes, I agree!

  • SUSAN

    I VOTE HILLARY.I WILL NEVER VOTE OBAMA.I’LL GO MCCAIN, IF IT’S NOT HILLARY.

  • ginaswo

    lucky!!

    have a blast!!
    lurv the Big Dawg!!

    BOOYAH!!!
    HILLYEAH!!!

  • RealityCheck9

    The truth is, that Hillary Clinton can get herself right up to the nomination but….the DNC will not allow her to have it.

    I believe this election is fixed by the DNC and the selected super delegates are falling in line.

    The DNC is abandoning 50% of it’s voters, believing they will fall in line to elect their choice…Barack Obama.

    Think! With a candidate as bad as Obama, why would he be so supported.

  • No Fraudz

    How else does one explain all the FAIRY TALES or are they simply ……LIES?

  • KJMontana

    I think Hillary is being loyal to the party that is trying to steamroller her. I love Hillary, and she is a great Democrat, but I will never vote for Obama. Way I see it I have a couple of other choices: 1) write in Hillary, 2) vote for McCain, or 3) stay home. I will probably choose #1. If Obama is the nominee, he’ll have to win without me.

  • 85YOTA

    Down here in Southern Oregon haven’t seen Obama’s ‘church’ ad yet. If he gets by Oregon it’ll only be because of the Portland; Salem; Eugene area of the state. They commonly override the voters in the southern portion simply because they greatly outnumber us with their large population bases. As for me, I will continue fighting the fight for Hillary. And if Obama gets the nomination, I will fight for McCain. Regardless of how it goes, the week of June 8th my family and I are leaving the Democratic Party and going over to the GOP. Additionally, there is a movement that has started over at savagepolitics.com to unite Hillary Supporters for McCain. Any of you who are willing to take a strong stand and vote McCain over Obama come November are encouraged to join us! Thanks all!

  • 85YOTA

    I live in Medford OR and have been seeing Obama ads on television for maybe 3 or so weeks now. Have seen only 1 for Hillary. But we are not deterred. NO WAY will Obama take Southern Oregon!

  • 85YOTA

    Well said Workingclass Artist! BRAVO!!!

  • 85YOTA

    Kefa, Thanks for the link I’ve been waiting for. This Oregonian salutes you!

  • 85YOTA

    LMFAO Tricia! Excellent!

  • 85YOTA

    Sorry SpeakTruth. But if Obama and McCain are on the ballot come November I will vote McCain. Hell, I’d vote PeeWee Herman to keep Obama out. Or maybe Larry Sinclair.

  • 85YOTA

    My vote’s for Hillary. But if she’s on a ticket with Barack Obama she loses my vote. If Obama’s anywhere near the ballot, I’m John McCain’s girl all the way! NO OBAMA!

  • 85YOTA

    With all that Money…And all those Endorsements…And all that Biased Media Coverage… Obama still can’t close the deal. NO OBAMA!

  • PamFlorida

    She doesn’t have to run as an Independent. She can still run as a dem, irregardless of who the party nominates. If Sen. Clinton AND BO both run, we can deny McCain the 270 electoral votes necessary to win the presidency. If that happens, either the dems have to broker a deal or the House decides. Not sure of the procedure, but there is a precedent.

  • Gorgegirl

    I went over to the house of my “under-educated, white, 97-year old aunt who can hardly see a line to write her name on it” and did as she asked. I helped her vote for Hillary Clinton.

  • Gorgegirl

    The 95% results especially seemed skewed when in the race to the Senate, Obama wasn’t even able to get beyond 70% despite the fact that his opponent had been replaced by a non-resident Alan Keyes.

  • so saddened

    ditto.

  • Voter

    Do not be scared, don’t let others tell you the wrong
    messages about Obama, he is truely the real person to
    vote for. Hilary and Mccain will not be truthful, nor
    repect the voters wishes. They will do anything to get elected, even trick you into belief. It is time
    for change, not the same old washington politics that
    has disrupted our economy.

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