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The Inanity Of It All OPEN THREAD [Important Update]

By SusanUnPC on May 16, 2008 at 9:51 AM in Current Affairs, Open Thread

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toesucker.pngDICK MORRIS, today on Fox News:

If Barack picked Hillary as his VP candidate ….

“I wouldn’t sell him life insurance.”

Boy, I guess when Dick Morris (pictured photo left, doing his favorite thing) wrote the other day that it would be “an act of terminal insanity for Barack Obama to name Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential candidate,” he was really being serious!

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NEXT UP, DEEEEEEP THINKER Ted Kennedy:
tedsnorkjn4.jpg

Thanks, V, for the video!

I OBJECT FOR THE ONLY SANE REASON:

HILLARY MUST BE AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET.

(And Obama as V.P.? ONLY if Hillary must, but she must — if at all possible — choose someone FIT for the presidency.)

  • Percy

    Oh… and the same would not be true if Hillary were the Pres and Obama the VP Choice?

    If the elitist and power mongers of the Democratic Party nominate Obama I don’t want Hillary any where near the ticket.

    Let him self destruct….it is the only salvageable chance that the future democratic party has, let alone the country.

    We can handle 4 years of McCain.. he is not that bad.

    We would prosper with 8 years of Hillary.

    Hillary could play a pivotal role for the county in another role….even a return to the senate.

    • Chris Vosburg

      Percy writes: We can handle 4 years of McCain.. he is not that bad.

      After Dubya assumed the office in 2000, I consoled myself with How bad can it be? He’s a harmless dolt who’ll be out of office in four years.

      And look how swell that turned out.

      This country cannot, I repeat, cannot endure another Republican presidency. It will take decades to undo the damage already done by the simpleton-in-chief, and if this is not immediately addressed by the next executive– and McCain won’t do it, as you know– the damage will instead take centuries to undo– if it can be undone at all.

      I can’t say this strongly enough: if you think there’s little difference between the democratic candidate you favor– whoever it is– and McCain, you’re fooling yourself. It’s past time to stop beating up on the democratic candidate you oppose and time to start kicking McCain’s ass up one side of the street and down the other.

      • Chris Vosburg

        Er, make that if you think there’s little difference between the democratic candidate you favor or oppose

        • LBJ’s Love Child

          Chris, here’s how I rank the candidates on who would be good for America (fuck the “Party”), with 10 being best, and 1 being dangerous:

          10) Hillary

          5) McCain

          1) Obama

          • http://www.bentcorner.com Rick Rottman

            Yep, that’s how it tallies up on my score sheet too.

            • Gary McGowan

              On mine, it’s McCain 85% dangerous, Obama 125% dangerous.

              Senator Clinton must disabuse the Democratic Party’s upper echelons of their Russophobia, then I will breathe a big sigh of relief.

          • Chris Vosburg

            Hillary Clinton herself does not agree, having stated that if she does not win the nomination, she will support Barack Obama.

            Smart lady. Good advice. Why you no listen to her?

            • http://!! flyarm

              Look little Chris Vosburg troll ..we all know why you are here and what your schpeel is..don;t waste your time or ours..because you only make us madder than we already are by you obamabrats..and you only make our resolve stronger!

              you can’t seel this rotten pig to a pig farmer..we know what we have seen , and what we have researched on your Obama..now go back to obamatwon and tell them keep little trolls like you outta here..we will not play your fucking game!

              oh and by the way..are you a 6 cent, 9 cent , 15 cent or 20 cent a post troll??????

              go away..your schtick won’t sell here…go play in the sandbox, of which you came, and pound sand!

              fly

            • street_parade

              Chris,

              If you’re spending time trying to convince a lot of (mostly) moderate to liberal Democrats to support your candidate in the general if he should win the nomination, you see your problem, don’t you? The fact that Obama has trouble with ‘the base’ and we’re talking about people who vote in Democratic primaries — the most liberal part of the population — indicates the depth of his trouble.

              • Chris Vosburg

                street_parade writes: If you’re spending time trying to convince a lot of (mostly) moderate to liberal Democrats to support your candidate in the general if he should win the nomination, you see your problem, don’t you?

                Obama is not my candidate. I’m a Hillary supporter, and I’ve repeatedly said so, and repeatedly argued in favor of her nomination. I voted for her in the California primary, and continue to argue that she is the better of the two democratic candidates. Obama’s green, no doubt about it, but I guess you could have said the same about Bill Clinton when he assumed the Presidency. A steep learning curve, but the more I see of him, the more I think he can handle it.

                But like Hillary, I’m not a fool, and realize that if she does not win the nomination, Obama is the candidate most likely to undo the damage done by Dubya.

                It was argued by many liberal purists in 2000 that Al Gore was “Bush lite”; i.e., not that different than Bush, and thus many votes were diverted to a candidate who didn’t have a hope in hell of actually winning the election: Ralph Nader. The result of this self-indulgent silliness was disastrous, as you know.

                I would hope that it should be clear, in hindsight, that it is simply not the case that Al and George were soulmates.

                Since we learn from experience, I would hope that it is also clear that John McCain and Barack Obama aren’t either. But we humans have short memories, so this is not a given.

                street_parade also writes: The fact that Obama has trouble with ‘the base’ and we’re talking about people who vote in Democratic primaries

                I don’t get it. Why, if as you say, he is having trouble with “the base”, is that same base voting him into the candidacy for the presidency?

                Lastly, and this is not directed at you personally, I’m not a troll, dammit. Traditionally, the epithet is applied to those who seek to clutter orderly discourse with hooey, and generally don’t respond to contention– or simply answer it with gibberish.

                By way of example, check out “Mike in NOLA”‘s response to my pointing out that his linked article doesn’t say what he says it does, downthread. Like I said, gibberish.

                Which brings to mind a question: what would be a good term to describe a blog that clutters orderly discourse with hooey, and generally doesn’t respond to contention– or simply answers it with gibberish?

                I’m thinking “trogg”, but I’d welcomne any suggestions.

            • Marilyn E. Harvey

              Why I no support Obama as Hillary has said she would?
              Because I don’t think he is ready to be President!!! In fact I think he is singularly unready. (Not to mention that I wouldn’t want a president who acts like a teenager by making disrespectful gestures to other world leaders that he doesn’t agree with. The finger did it for me. I would never vote for someone so chidishly disrespectful to another Senator and so disrespectful of the office he seeks.)

              • Chris Vosburg

                Marilyn E. Harvey writes: I wouldn’t want a president who acts like a teenager by making disrespectful gestures to other world leaders that he doesn’t agree with.

                Well, [sigh], perception of the Obama finger salute was largely speculative.

                But more importantly, if you truly feel that disrespectful gestures to world leaders we don’t agree with are inappropriate, then consider the fact that both democratic candidates are willing to talk out the putative problems with Ahmadinejad, and the republican candidate thinks that any conversation would constitute “appeasement.”

            • 2008nowosci

              You just have to learn how to read between lines. Hillary can not say other way, because She still is fighting for Presidency. Whatever She said, Obama hyenas were attacking Her , and accusing for racism , hate. Now, She just pretends to be a suporter, part of the game. They got what they want!!! There is no love story there!!!

              • Chris Vosburg

                2008nowosci writes: You just have to learn how to read between lines. Hillary can not say other way, because She still is fighting for Presidency.

                Most definitely, and I hope she gets it, despite the fact that it looks like the likelihood is approaching zero.

                Nevertheless, do me a favor and say “I told you so” to yourself for me if she does, in fact, do what she has said she is going to do. It’s the right thing to do, and as I said, she’s no fool.

                Rest assured, if she comes out in favor of McCain, I will tell myself “I told you so” for you.

            • moose-14

              I read it the opposite way, perhaps you should listen a little more carefully, and stop projecting your ‘reality” onto her comments.

              Are you always this gullible, or simply obtuse?

              Apparently, you are very codependent on others for validation.

              Interesting.

              BRAVO!

              heh.

              • Chris Vosburg

                If you’re still there, street_parade, see the comment immediately above for another sterling example of the troll mentality.

                Like I said, gibberish.

          • http://!! flyarm

            wow LBJ..i see it the same way!!

            and so does my husband ..we are both lifelong dems ..but i trust McCain one hell of alot more than an unknown ..nobody named Obama ..who has little to no experience..has tied himself to a bunch of thugs..and criminals..who has zero military experience, who only just bought his first home in the very recent past..and has not much economic experience..who has filled his advisor slots with repigs or New World order people..who couldn’t even hold hearings or meeting and uphold his responsibilities abotu afganistan while we have active soldiers there…

            no siree..I will never under any circumstances vote for Obama..

            his people have called me the “c” word..and the “b” word..and have no respect for anyone ..and that comes from the top of a campaign.

            He has deliberately held up the votes of my state of Florida counting in this election..not only is that unamerican..that is not democratic!

            nope i am done..i would vote for mickey mouse over that illegitimate manchurian candidate.

            oh and i will do all i can to see Howard Dean removed from the DNC and DOnna Brazile as well!

            they are not democrats..

            Fly ..a 2004 elected Democratic Delegate from the State of Florida.

            • 2008nowosci

              is anything we cand do, to help You kick this two from DNC!!! and end political carier for Obama!!!?????

        • Northwest rain

          Chris Vosburg

          how much are you being paid to bug us?

          • Chris Vosburg

            Northwest rain writes: Chris Vosburg how much are you being paid to bug us?

            Well, atsa all depend how much you pay. You pay a little, I bugga you a little. You pay a whole lot, I bugga you a whole lot. You pay too much, I bugga you a too much.

            Thus Spake Baravelli, paraphrasing (Chico Marx in “Horse Feathers”, Dir. Norman McLeod, Paramount, 1932)

            In other words, don’t be silly.

            • moose-14

              Do you think though you could make it more interesting, more challenging, bring in something fresh?

              I mean, try to see it as you’re being trolled, into here, for a reason, just for fun, flip it, as an intellectual exercise.

              Too scary, I see.

      • Untilthelastdogdies

        It’s past time to stop beating up on the democratic candidate you oppose and time to start kicking McCain’s ass up one side of the street and down the other

        That’s debatable…but I can see why you’re so scared that McCain may win in November, it’s because we’re not all getting on the unity pony fast enough for you!

        I shan’t vote McCain, but I damn well don’t appreciate being told how to behave and/or vote.

        This country cannot, I repeat, cannot endure another Republican presidency.

        It would be interesting to know your frame of reference here. After all, we had the pleasure of “enduring” the Reagan-Bush era. We had the pleasure of “enduring” the Nixon years. Some of us even had the pleasure of “enduring” the 50′s!

        The nation abides.

        Either you will individually, or you won’t.

      • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

        I don’t agree with this argument. America will survive as long as its people believe that democracy can work.
        Back in the 1970s, we thought that Richard Nixon was going to destroy America. America survived. When Ronald Reagan became president, I thought it was the end of the world. America survived. When George Bush became president in 2000, I thought Armageddon was on its way. America (and somehow the world) has survived.
        Maybe it’s not everything that you were hoping it would be, and yes, we have problems, but it’s still a heck of a lot better than living in Afghanistan, Iraq or North Korea. Try ranting and raving about your government in one of those countries.
        What we’re going through right now is tough and some of us are more than frustrated. We’re angry and disillusioned with our party and our political system, but we still believe that democracy can and will work. If we didn’t, we wouldn’t be wasting time arguing with each other on this blog.
        If John McCain is elected this year and moves into the White House next year, it will be because the majority of Americans believe he’s the best person for the job, and America will survive.

        • Chris Vosburg

          Yeah, that’s fair, I guess, despite the fact that the current administration is the primary reason Iraq and Afghanistan are so fucked up that you are relieved not to be living there.

          However, I was actually thinking about more than the isolationists’ concern regarding living conditions within the US when I said the country cannot endure another Republican presidency: I was thinking about the US and its relationship with the rest of the world. Perhaps what I should have said is that the planet cannot endure another Republican presidency.

          You okay with that? :-)

          • http://!! flyarm

            obama is a republican..or he might as well be ..his entire advisor staff is republicanlite or ..new world order folks or tied to Milton Friedman..so please do tell us ,..how republican does Obama have to be for you to get as scared of him as you are of McCain????????

            Obama was thrown out of kenya..he has lied to the american people over and over..his advisor was just fired for doing private talks with Hamas..and then he comes out with a speech today acting like the innocent little boy he wants you to think he is..well we grown ups have looked at his entire background..that of which he didn’t destroy deliberately..and we know a skunk when we see one..we don’t have to wait for the smell!

            Babies are drinking water with nuke waste in their baby bottles in Ill. becaus ethat pig Obama didn’t do jack shit about it…he let old people and poor people freez in chicago’s bitter winters ..so he could get fund bundling from his buddy Rezco..and how much worse does it have to get them to have a terrorist as your first fund raiser..maybe darlin..you dn’t remember the weatherman bombiings on the east coast ..but i sure as hell do..i rwmember it like yesterday..so please take your bullsjit elsewhere..we are grown ups that have a history in this nation of ours..and you are too ignorant to even read and educate yourself about Obama and you think you can come here and put on a guilt trip..save it..that crap doesn’t work with people who live in reality and don’t keep waiting for someone to come along and put them under the spell of words like Hope…bullshit..after all is still bullshit..and you paid little darlings of the obamabrats..will not sell your bullshit here.

            fly

            • 2008nowosci

              thank You, this was great!!!

          • rjj

            Obama’s campaign is the Bush-Rove campaign 2000.

            Vosburg’s Democratic Party welfare argument, vote the Dem, it’s all we’ve got, do it for the good of the party, was made 2000, 2004.

            If the Democratic Party is all we’ve got, we’ve got NOTHING – worse than nothing. Its accomplishments?

            1. through folly and incompetence, empowerment of the right wing,
            2. through cowardice, the enabling of a rogue regime.

            Vosburg, they’re useless and they are habitual fuck-ups.

            No.

            • Chris Vosburg

              rjj writes: Vosburg’s Democratic Party welfare argument, vote the Dem, it’s all we’ve got, do it for the good of the party, was made 2000, 2004.

              This isn’t simply blind partisanship, rjj. There are fundamental differences between the parties’ policies, especially in the foreign policy arena. Coupla examples may help:

              Both demo candidates are committed to getting American troops the hell out of Iraq, inasmuch as they are creating more problems there than they are solving. McCain , like Dubya, has no such desire, instead saying he wants to “win” the war. It’s difficult to understand what exactly would constitute a win for him. Everybody in Iraq dead or something; I really don’t know and it’d be nice if a reporter would ask him. I won’t hold my breath waiting.

              Both demo candidates are of the opinion that countries which threaten the safety or security of the world at large should be approached through diplomatic means. In other words, we should try to talk out the problem, as kindergarten teachers have always counseled. McCain is of the bizarre opinion, again, like Dubya, that talking to them is, de facto, “appeasement.” So I guess his answer to this sort of dilemma would be the same as Dubya’s.

              Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb bomb Iran.

              If that is what you want, then by all means vote for McCain. Hillary wouldn’t do it, and neither would Obama.

          • moose-14

            Foam away, but you’re full of shit.

            • moose-14

              That’s to “chr**’ btw…

              He doesn’t have a clear view on reality, he actually believes what he sees, a simple , um, individual.

  • Hope

    Susan,
    Must you put those pics of that abomination Ted Kennedy on site so early in the morning? :) With the horrible heat here and now this photo, I feel too ill to work. :)

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      I liked the snorkel. It’s definitely Him.

      • yttik

        Love that snorkel.

        Kennedy has a long history of throwing women under the bus. Or leaving them under the bridge.

  • sinking-ratboat

    That baby is much too cute to be Dickie Morris.

    • Dawnelle

      How does slime like that keep walking up right?

      I mean, he MUST have a thousand people (at least) that would stand in LINE to punch him out if they could get with in 50 feet of him, right????

      Like in that Airplane movie. I’d get in line to slap him silly too!

      • Dawnelle

        I’m talking about MOrris but I guess Kennedy would fit in there too! lmao!

        • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

          With Teddy, you’ll get the Republicans to agree with you, and will help ship busloads to get a few licks in. ;)

          Not kidding that he’s the most hated Dem. He represents all that’s what’s wrong with the party. Flaming liberal; cuts your own president down in office (and his election bid); kills a secretary (can you imagine a Republican staying in office for long with that baggage?); and his father was equally worse than Bushs’.

          The Founders are right about the sins of having Kings, just look at both families to see by how much.

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            Hey Cris, did you know that Fat Teddy went all the way to convention with his ridiculous presidential nomination big—790 delegates short? He should talk!

            • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

              Yep, Teddy shouldn’t be talking (from Wikipedia, which links I can’t post here)…

              Nominee: Ted Kennedy
              Party: Democratic
              Home state: Massachusetts
              States carried: 12
              Popular vote: 7,381,693
              Percentage: 37.58%

              Even Carter, whipped his ass. Getting over 3,000,000 more popular votes, despite the “history” that claims that Carter was a “bad president” (I hate the spin from both parties, as history showed the Dems liked Carter more than even Kennedy — but that’ll ruin Dark Camelot’s image [how can Teddy even be a Kennedy? He's no JFK or RFK]).

          • Chris Vosburg

            ChrisXP writes: The Founders are right about the sins of having Kings, just look at both families to see by how much.

            Tom Paine said it best, in Common Sense:

            One of the strongest natural proofs of the folly of hereditary right in kings is that natures disapproves it, otherwise she would not so frequently turn it into ridicule by giving mankind an ass for a lion.

            • moose-14

              Right, bring in Tom Paine to dazzle them , to support your trolled ideology, and no one can tell your simply a fuck up, being towed in.

              Really, no one.

              D0od, you’re genius.

              Not much scope there, sunshine…

              LOLOLOLOLOLOL

              Oh, I was thinking yesterday about those federalists, the ones supporting Cheney, those stupid republican lawyers, right, like a bunch of tweeners, or tweeters, with law degrees, granted, apparently, from the ivy league equivalent of “Whatsamatter U?”

              Is that Canadian Indian?

              • Chris Vosburg

                Moose number 14 babbles: Right, bring in Tom Paine to dazzle them , to support your trolled ideology, and no one can tell your simply a fuck up, being towed in.

                When you’ve sobered up, please take the time to read over the entire litterbox full of comments you’ve soiled Larry’s nice clean blog with today. I’m afraid it’ll be painful.

                Then apologize to him. It’s good for the soul.

    • Catriley

      Yeah, that can’t be Dick Morris, it’s sucking it’s OWN toes. Dick Morris has to pay for that…

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Yeah, that can’t be Dick Morris, it’s sucking it’s OWN toes.

        ROFL

        Hey! Barky is wearing his pin today! I guess that makes him an American.

      • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

        Oh gawd. I am laughing so hard.

  • Janicen

    What a sick thing for Dickless Morris to say. I realize that the only reason he gets any airtime is that he says outrageous things, but implying that selecting Clinton would be a death sentence for Obama? Wow.

    • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

      Fox News unfortunately employs some of the most questionable pundits. From Ollie North to Dick “I’m an ass” Morris. I’m a conservative, but even I have to hold my nose to the stench of these “Fox News Contributors”.

  • DCDemocrat

    There is this thought out in ObamaWorld that they have totally and completely vanquished us, that we have suffered an onerous and crushing defeat. You would think that Obama had more than 200 delegates than Hillary does (he doesn’t), that he doesn’t require the help of superdelegates to get the nomination (he does), that he leads by more than 100,000 popular votes (he doesn’t), that he had won more big states than Hillary has (he hasn’t), that he has won more primaries than she has (he hasn’t), and that he could win the GE without us (he can’t). Given their arrogance, you would think they have no need for us whatsoever.

    The children who follow the Pied Piper have no lived through McGovern, Carter 1980, Mondale, Dukakis, and not just Kerry. They have no idea how badly they need us.

    I might respond to kindness with kindness. I know I will respond to dismissiveness with dismissiveness.

    • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

      You would think that Obama had more than 200 delegates than Hillary does (he doesn’t), that he doesn’t require the help of superdelegates to get the nomination (he does), that he leads by more than 100,000 popular votes (he doesn’t), that he had won more big states than Hillary has (he hasn’t), that he has won more primaries than she has (he hasn’t), and that he could win the GE without us (he can’t).

      In short, where’s Occam’s Razor rules: he STILL can’t close the deal.

      The biggest flop in the day was the NARAL endorsement. It’s like they expected women would be like that Black block vote, and move emmase to Obama. Ah, no, those who believe in women’s rights just can’t get into bed with rapists, and simply “take it” as being “fun”.

      It even gives Obama lower points on the Neadertal level.

      • http://deleted AnninCA

        You’re so right about the NARAL endorsement backfiring. LOL*

        Did you see the women on O’Reilly last night who are leaving the Democratic party?

        They are the epitome of the type of women I kept saying, “You’re making a mistake. You’re angering the workhorses of the party here.”

        Sure enough, they are the ones who run the party when it’s not a “sexy” year, when it’s hard to get voters interested, and when it really matters locally.

        And they are so mad that they went on TV and let O’Reilly grill them, looking scared as heck!

        That’s mad, folks. That’s really, really mad. :)

        • moose-14

          All this foam, sometimes it’s best to simply sit back, and let them drown, as they’re not making reality based decisions, digging themselves in deeper.

          It’s the equivalent of a bad strategy decision on behalf of the US army, say, attacking Fallujah, but losing, because the military guy can’t game asymmetrically, or understand how he’s being baited. So he digs himself in deeper, which is what you want, if you’re Russia, say…

          And he thinks he’s superior, because, well he is, in his head, even though he hasn’t been successful once, and he games like an untalented child, he never stopped to examine how he got where he is, because that would be too complicated, and he’s just not that smart, despite his delusions of grandeur…

          Narcissistic arrogance is a KILLER, isn’t it?

          Dick Morris, and that type, need others to be codependent in order to be effective, once that’s not a factor, or people don’t’ care what he, and his ilk, think, they lose the illusion of power.

          They’re not smart, it’s all smoke and mirrors, the social clique.

          But let’s be honest, they’re dumber than bricks, not everybody can wear Tom Payne, now can they, some people are too fat.

          • moose-14

            Proof?

            America has lost two, three wars, if you count the failure of the US under Bush, Cheney, and oil.

            Obviously, he can’t do the job, he’s operating under an illusion.

            But I know, let’s ask Freddy Kagan, or Doug Feith what Iraq needs?

            More troops. mkay?

            And why isn’t it working?

            “Well, those people are savages, you cannot have multiculturalism.”

            What does multiculturalism, as you understand it, have to do with any thing in Iraq, is that the TRUE root of the problem, let’s ask someone smart, like Joe Wilson, instead of a cretin federalist, mkay?

            And then go from there…

            And how can we realistically solve this problem, without violence?

            (It’s metaphor and analogy, try to keep up, mkay?

            I know poetry isnt your thing, heh,but this isn’t too hard, here…)

    • Nellie

      DC Democrat,

      Nope – after months, and mmonths of raw abuse, my theme song is:

      “It’s too late to lie agin with you”

      Too little – much too late!

      And the mess with the vote fraud, cheating, lying and all the other crap – I for one do NOT have a case of severe battered woman syndrome – I won’t be going back with the current mob in charge.

      And I haven’t even started on the massive character furaud and illegalities of Obama – who should be wearing an orange jump suit if there is anything resembling the rule of law left.

  • Janet M.

    I don’t want to take the VP slot. Let him fail!!!

  • PaganPower

    The Kennedy photo is priceless.

  • beebop

    Hearing Ted Kennedy pontificate about leadership makes you throw up a little in your mouth doesn’t it? What a scum bucket the man really is.

    And I have news for Dick Morris, Hillary Rodham Clinton would be in far greater danger (can you say Black Panther Party and NOI?) than Barack H. Obama? I am just trying to picture anyone in leadership from, say, Emily’s List with an automatic weapon and a sight, but, hey, I’m just a stupid typical white person, right?

    • Dawnelle

      yes which also makes me more sure they should NOT join forces!

      BOTH camps would be walking around the white house with bullet proof vests on all day long! That would just NOT be right.

      go away loser odrama

      • jwrjr

        Not to worry. Do you really think that the Pirahna, errr, MO would allow BO to pick Clinton as VP?

        • Dawnelle

          NO for sure I don’t but……..

          they might try to FORCE HILLARY to take HIM as VP when SHE clobbers him in KY, SD, PR and ties him in Oregon and the supers make a deal to let her have the TOP SPOT ONLY if she takes him as VP.

          what then?

          dammmmmmmmmmmmmit!

  • GOPmurderedconscience

    I read what Kennedy said a while, but watching him say it really make my blood boil.

    Btw, if we have to clean up the Clintons and their supporters because they have been around for too long and are old, why are we still dealing with anything named Kennedy in the Democratic Party.

    Susan, why are you ruining my day with that video of that imbecile? What did I do to you?

    Man, I’m infuriated.

    • GOPmurderedconscience

      I am so sick of hearing this.

      Where has Obama EVER shown ANY type of leadership? Where? Ever?

      Anybody got one?

      I didn’t think so.

  • No Fraudz

    SAD!!

    It’s amazing that an experienced leader who has been on the battlefield all these years, is unable to spell out, gracefully and precisely, the criteria for selecting the VP candidate ???!!

    That’s the last person you expect to talk in such vague terms, (just like his protege) given the wealth of experience he ought to have under his belt.

    What appeal????!!!!

    Has BO shared that yet with the American people???

    Real Leadership???

    The extent of betrayal, the degree of scheming that obviously has gone into this charade perpetrated on the genuine, reliable party base is……
    Heart breaking!!

    A virus has taken over!
    Get with the one of the immunization programs here:

    http://www.stophernow.com/?q=episode1

    While taking care of tactical manouvres it’s also good to envision the future. Some have started that ball a-rolling.

  • Untilthelastdogdies

    Hey Susan! Thanks for the opportunity to savage Dick-Head Morris so early in the day, but I’m taking a pass.

    Anything that moron says is directly related to his absolute hatred of Hillary. He’s all about paying her back for the “96 campaign…her instincts regarding him were correct then and have been borne out in every slithering word he has uttered since.

    What a bottom-feeding scum-bag.

    Top o’ the mornin’ to ya Dickie!

    • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

      He’s all about paying her back for the “96 campaign…

      Like being caught with a prostitute discussing State business within earshot? Oh, that’s fine as long as he doesn’t lie about it?

      The hypocrisy is astonishing. :rolleyes:

      Don’t let Republicans fool you about sex. They love the most sordid stuff, inbetween bible verses (and you know it conservatives!).

      • Untilthelastdogdies

        yes indeedy! I think w learned that with Larry “Wide Stance” Craig!

  • Patrick Walker

    Obama is a lot more limited in VP picks than anyone else running.

    For one, he can’t have someone with experience as VP, nor anyone older than him because it makes the ticket look upside down.

    No chance he can offer it to Clinton for both the above reasons, but Clinton could offer him the VP slot.

    • beebop

      She won’t. He turned it down. He’s not interested. Thank God!

    • Nellie

      Hell NO!

  • Mike in NOLA

    More inanity: Obama’s campaign calling in the UN to investigate our racism.

    U.N. racism investigator to visit U.S. from Monday
    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL1684309820080516

    Will make a wonderful campaign issue for the Republicans.

    I suppose if BO isn’t elected we will face sanctions.

    • beebop

      I think its GREAT! Will they simply ignore issues of intimidation at caucuses by Obama supporters? Does the UN only see race as a white on black crime? Maybe they can get Jimmy Carter and Hamas to help out?

    • Catriley

      When is the UN investigators coming to investigate SEXISM in the US? Considering how many women die at the hands of their husbands, boyfriends, and male acquaintances, I’d say the UN would have a lot to cover in three weeks.

      Or perhaps the UN can focus on the status of women in the world? And perhaps use their time investigating and stopping the practice of rape as a tool of war?

      Noooo… they need to come to America and investigate racism. Will they be investigating all forms of racism (like Rev. Wright and Moss, and Jesse Jackson, Jr., and Michelle Obama? Or just the ones that benefit Sen. Obama?

      • speaktruth

        Obama probably demanded that they come to check out why so many people haven’t voted for him.
        Or, seriously, and this is pretty damn scary, to make sure the Dem party doesn’t give “his” nomination to Hillary.
        Look at the timing.

    • Dawnelle

      Oh my Gawddddddd

      roflmao! what phony arrogant fools!

    • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

      More inanity: Obama’s campaign calling in the UN to investigate our racism.

      No…I’m not going to dig in on the UN here…Must control myself…MUST……….

      I want that UN investigator to talk with me about the racism of Obama’s supporters. Can give them a long history of how Black racism can be as ugly as White racism.

      Hopefully folks will understand why conservatives take a dim view of the UN, now? It’s exactly for these things — having another entity that can have power to dictate our country, the world’s views/laws/culture, at the expense of our own.

      • Dawnelle

        NO sorry Chris it’s not equal.

        I know it exists but it’s NOT equal. We’ve never experienced (as a whole) some of the frightening things the Black community faces daily.

        But I do get your point, basically.

        • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

          I know it exists but it’s NOT equal. We’ve never experienced (as a whole) some of the frightening things the Black community faces daily.

          Speak for yourself, Dawn, as it seems you haven’t faced the racism I’ve faced by both parties. I KNOW what I’m talking about, from experience.

          But I’m not going to hold it as some club and crutch to blame generations, either (which is exactly what you’re doing with the, “feel sorry for them” bit).

          When I see a 40+ year project, getting concentrated resources no other community has, and they CONTINUE to graduate these Jeremiah Wrights, druggies, thieves and every other junk — no, it’s not that they didn’t get a handup, they’re looking for folks just like you to give them handouts to CONTINUE another 40 years of graduating these Jeremiah Wrights…..

          Now tell me how my mom, who survived WWII (the starvation; the aerial firebombing; AA strafing; disease and chaos); who came here not knowing the language; who learned enough to get her citizenship (when it was much more strict to obtain); who faced discrimination not only of gender, race of religion, had made the American dream?

          She didn’t look for copouts and handouts, that’s why.

          Which is the same for millions of other LEGAL immigrants and hard working folks in this country. They earned everything and didn’t ask for crutches — like, “of the frightening things the Black community faces daily”.

          Life is frightening, but you pick yourself up, and strive forward, just like our ancestors have done since the beginning of time (they didn’t have welfare in those caves, you know?).

          • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

            I didn’t mean it to come off THAT harsh to you Dawn, but it’s a deeply personal issue. Been there, and it’s disgusting to see one community make so many excuses, despite the opportunities.

            Money and excuses does NOT answer the problem. It takes a community to WANT to overcome the obstacles (just like other communities have to do).

            That’s equality.

            • Dawnelle

              ok listen

              I’m saying it is NOT EQUAL

              as of today! YOU can walk out get in your car drive by 10 cop cars and probably not get noticed

              ANY black person would be followed by probably HALF of them (depending on which state you live in)

              if you don’t believe THAT you are not being honest

              THAT is what I was referring to….. and even the hardest working black man or woman faces the same drive home from work…… being watched.

              I am NOT making excuses just going by what I’VE witnessed through out my 52 yrs.

              I trust you believe your experiences are as worthy as mine yes? Thanks.

              • terri

                First of all, this is crap. Try being white and waling down the street in the South Side in Chicago. Racism is not limited to whites, by any means.

                Secondly, because there’s been some discrimination of blacks does that mean we should hand the Democratic nomination to an unqualified black man? He got incensed (ostensibly) when he thought Gerri was saying he got ahead through Afirmative Action. Why does he want to get the presidential nomination by guilting people into handing it to him?

                • moose-14

                  Oh, give me a break, my goodness, this kind of logic it’s no wonder you can’t win ANYTHING.

                  LOOK it’s the master Alinsky troll his mind stuck in a simplistic childish reality he can’t examine!

                  hey, you suck, moose.

                  “Lets work to get people banned, mkay, says the sniveling lil cretin, let’s cause problems on the Clinton boards…”

                  That butt ugly, I’d be bitter, too, stew…

      • terri

        Channeling Malcolm X. Malcolm X did this throughout his career.

        As a white woman, I faced worse discrimination than Obama when I was in graduate school in a traditionally all-male field.

    • Chris Vosburg

      Mike in NOLA writes: More inanity: Obama’s campaign calling in the UN to investigate our racism.

      What’s missing from the article you linked to, Mike, is any suggestion that Obama’s campaign had called for the UN’s investigation.

      But you knew that. So why the bullshit?

      • Mike in NOLA

        Oh, I suppose that with Darfur, Myanmar, etc. this just jumped right out at him and he was forced to investigate it first?

        Who knows, maybe it was Hillary complaining about the race baiting that’s been used against her. Yeah, that’s it. It’s all Hillary’s fault.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Obama will not ask Hillary to be VP..His damn ego is to large. Maybe Edwards..God knows he still had the residue on his chin. What a DAMN HYPOCRITE! I watched his so called “Endorsment and realized he still had his knee pads on! ;-)

    • beebop

      …. and the dollar bills were hanging out of his back pocket. He looks like such a used, silly tool. What an ignoble end to a political career.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Besides….He HAS’NT WON YET!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • stillife

    I can’t stand Dick Morris. I have taken to listening to Fox pundits in the past few months, as have many Clinton supporters for obvious reasons, but Dick Morris is just ridiculous. He has the most severe case of CDS I’ve ever seen.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Give me a DAMN BREAK!!!! I’m so sick and tired of this bull****! What are they going to say when they find out that it was OBLAMA that used the race card? Im fed up with this race card crap! This is what they ALWAYS use when they want something or to shut you up..I’ve seen it too many times here in Chicago. And before I get some TROLL calling me a racist…..I’m Native American and I’ve lived with Racism and I know first hand what some will do to get what they want…Sick sick sick…..Go cry to someone who gives a damn! I’ve had enough of these lilly white liberals using that to make themselves feel good

    • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

      Doesn’t matter. The only “true” victims are Blacks. Didn’t get the memo? Over 75% of the country didn’t, either.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    If they want to see a damn racist….Look at Michelle Obama! Now theres a RACIST!!!!!!!

  • Ellen Tenn

    Dick Morris is such a DICK!

  • Kathryn

    LOL Ellen, you said it. He hates the Clintons, he is irrelevant.
    It is so obvious the DNC is shoving Obama on us for the money. I was suprised to see Edwards go whoring for money, my illusion was he has some class but obviously it’s his WIFE who has the class.

    I think Obama is a corporate stealth bomb to stop Universal Healthcare and keep the profits rolling in for energy companies. Notice how he was against even the tiniest break for average Americans and lifting the gas tax for the summer.
    I wonder if Hillary is so calm because she KNOWS he can’t make 2,025 much less 2,209. She knew she better get her Zen on, she knew what she was going into. That’s the difference, Obama has NO CLUE how bad it will get in the GE.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Barack Obama to address Pres.Bush’s Comments….Barack Obama to wipe his nose shortly,,,, Barack Obama to eat lunch this afternoon….Barack Obama to eat his waffles today at noon….Barack Obama to take a shit! Live at 10…My God I need some Booze and I dont drink

  • Nobama08

    I’m supposed to buy insurance from DICK MORRIS! That’s bad enough, but now The Russians Are Coming?

  • http://!! flyarm

    thank you..i am laughing here..whoaaaaa..

    toes sucker himself… Little dickey…

    and deep sea diver Teddy…

    and i am seeing Obama on the tee veee right now..and so cute he has an almost all white audience..isn’t that speccial..when we were told last Tuesday..Obama doesn’t need the white vote!!

    funny his marketeers have flooded his little speech with the ..shhhhhhhhh ….white folk..

    ahhh Donna Brazile..i thought you said this manufacutred guy doesn’t need our vote?????????

    so why the all white audience today?????????????

    just wondering…

    fly

  • beebop

    For the second time in as many days, another high level Democrat in Ohio has had to resign for sexual impropriety. The first time it was an affair with a staffer. This time it is PORN. The Republicans should have an EZY time here in November, don’t you think? Gov Strickland — who is a terrific man and a great leader and who endorsed HRC doesn’t need this!

  • Kathy

    Obama needs to go away for good. He is such a sleeze.

    Read this:

    http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_evelyn_p_080513_curtain_time_for_bar.htm

  • Masslib

    What a smug asshole. I will never vote for this man again.

  • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

    Yep, Teddy shouldn’t be talking (from Wikipedia’s Democratic Party 1980 primaries — which links I can’t post here)…

    Nominee: Ted Kennedy
    Party: Democratic
    Home state: Massachusetts
    States carried: 12
    Popular vote: 7,381,693
    Percentage: 37.58%

    Even Carter, whipped his ass. Getting almost 3,000,000 more popular votes, despite the “history” that claims that Carter was a “bad president” (I hate the spin from both parties, as history showed the Dems liked Carter more than even Kennedy — but that’ll ruin Dark Camelot’s image [how can Teddy even be a Kennedy? He's no JFK or RFK], so he has to be the fall guy for Teddy’s tomfoolery).

    Teddy is to the Democratic Party, as Hoover was to the Republican Party.

  • LBJ’s Love Child

    Also, Chris, the parallels between Beorge Bush and Barack Obama are a lot closer than between McCain and Bush.

    Bush 2000: Bringer of change.
    Obama 2008: Bringer of Change™.

    Bush 2000: A Uniter not a Divider.
    Obama 2008: Capable of Uniting People.

    Bush 2000: Short on experience, vague history.
    Obama 2008: Short on experience, vague history.

    Bush 2000: Friend of lots of powerful people.
    Obama 2008: Friend of lots of radicals.

    Bush 2000: Dick Cheney closest counselor.
    Obama 2008: Jeremiah Wright closest counselor.

  • Andy

    Did Ted say : something about Obama fullfilling the “noble aspirations of the American people” : Flineo; here you have a video: interlace Teddy’s comment with Wright & Obama: noble indeed….

    (I’m still laughing….)

  • Nobamadem

    Just found this blog. Very interesting. Dick Morris is an advisor to the Kenyan presidential candidate Odinga. Odinga and followers are/were violently protesting election results, burning christian churches, killing opposition tribesmen. Odinga is Obama’s cousin. Small world eh?

    http://biggirlpants.typepad.com/

    Scroll down to Observations of Africa etc.

  • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

    Takes a lot of guts for a dyed-in-the-wool Dem to welcome being on O’Reilly to state a message, even if it’s leaving the party over Obama.

    That’s piping hot angry to goto the belly of the beast.

    Hopefully before Obama’s coronation, the DNC sees the true stats of their new found votes, being offset by the 17 million Hillary supporters leaving to vote for Obama’s rival.

    Play the field guys and gals and get those IOUs when you do. You don’t need to be taken for granted, as the other side needs votes, too. Make them earn each one; and make these big special interest groups know you don’t even need them to get work done!

  • terri

    McCain would not be that bad. He’ll have something of a mandate from Hillary Democrats so he’ll have to be responsive to our agenda. Obama would just steam roll over traditional Democrats in office the way he’s done in the primary. He won’t be President anyway. TEd Kennedy, John Kerry, Tom Daschle (ROFL), and Dick Durbin would be president.

    At least with McCain, you know what you’re getting. The last thing we need is a new crop of extremists trying to hijack the country. If you think the neoCons were bad, the Black Panthers, SDS Weathermen, and the Black Muslims will make those people look like Mary Poppins. No way these domestic terrorist groups won’t get power in an Obama admin because they running his campaign. They’ll demand their pound of flesh.

  • rosaleen

    Ted Kennedy is a joke. Let us not forget that he is the idiot that “shepherded” Bush’s disastrous “no child left behind” legislation through congress for him. I volunteer in my local elementary school and I can tell you that act has devastated schools.

    I don’t think Kennedy saw what the results would be, though. I don’t think he is smart enough. He just saw a way to get his name out there in a big way.

    Remember, he dumped a woman in a river and let her drown because he didn’t want to be busted with her or busted for DUI. Or for whatever self-indulgent reasons he had for killing her.

  • glennmcgahhee

    If we have a good majority in Congress we can control a President McCain. He is an American patriot.

  • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

    From Politico.com about NARAL’s endorsement, and the backlash, and this is one of it’s president’s, Nancy Keenan, response…

    In response to the current controversy, Keenan says people will get over their “broken hearts.”

    “At the end of the day, the heart heals and you get on with the business of politics and what’s doing right by the country,” she said. “It’s the old Montana saying: You dust yourself off, and you get back in the saddle.”

    Didn’t someone gave Keenan the memo? Pulling yourself up from your bootstraps is called, “symbolic racism”. Endorsing it is saying to Black people that your cultural values are impinging Blacks.

    Yet another organization full of dimwits as leaders. They endorse what they claim not to be about, yet inserted foot into mouth.

    Hope women who are fighting for equality and more, see NARAL as the political animal it has become: a rabid dogs more interested in keeping their jobs, than looking long-term in the best interests of women, and not taking a backseat for political power only for the day — their “decision” process for the former 2 elections are just as dismal.

    Endorsing a guy who’s supporters have for months been putting Hillary down by her gender, is totally uncalled for — it’s like Holocaust survivors endorsing Hitler for “For 4 more years”!

    • so saddened

      well, now i say screw naral too.

      it’s like one big pile on. but the thinking among us say that no matter how many pile on we are not deterred.

      screw ‘em.

      screw obama. and screw all who support him.

      it’s late. i’m sleepy. so no energy to provide rationale. just bottom line – screw ‘em.

      that’s all that matters anyway. they force the asshole on us as “our ” nominee. we tell them they’re full of crap and we don’t accept their nominee. we vote for mccain. mccain wins.

      obama goes to the obscurity he deserves. hillary runs in 2012 and wins. and even if she doesn’t, we are saved from the horror of an obama presidency and all that would entail.

      • karen for Clinton

        yep, screw all the bandwagon hoppers who are trying to put humpty dumpty back together again.

        They can’t, he has fallen and he can’t get up!

        Screw them and the obama horse they rode in on.

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  • No_Obama_Trolls

    fosbach: another deeeeep thinker…. bwahhahaha.