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Ignore AIPAC at America’s Peril

giraldiPhilip Giraldi, a former CIA officer, is a contributing editor to The American Conservative and a fellow at the American Conservative Defense Alliance.

What do Charles Freeman and Jane Harman have in common? Nothing, apart from the fact that they are both involved in the truly ugly side of the Israel lobby’s activity in the United States and, for that reason, had their stories dropped by the mainstream media in record time. Harman’s story broke on April 19 and was on life support by the 24th.

Freeman’s story had slightly more legs to it only because his withdrawal from his nomination to head the National Intelligence Council on March 10 was preceded by a three-week barrage of vicious ad hominem attacks from the media and the usual suspects in Congress. After he resigned, his story was allowed to die, ending as far as the mainstream media was concerned on March 14 with a coup de grace from Republican Congressman Frank Wolf of Virginia, who claimed in a Washington Post op-ed that the Israel lobby had nothing to do with his opposition to Freeman’s appointment.

Wolf has reportedly received $72,000 from pro-Israel PACs, more than any other Virginia congressman except Eric Cantor, something that he chose not to mention.

If one were to ask a reasonably well-informed American citizen about either Harman or Freeman, one would most likely draw a blank. This is because they have been airbrushed out of the collective political consciousness almost as effectively as the pictures of Stalin’s rivals were removed from group photos in Red Square. The mainstream media, which is where most Americans still get their news, has trivialized their stories and has no desire to grapple with issues like Israeli espionage and the establishment of a de facto Israeli loyalty test for the holders of high office. Corruption of the U.S. political system by a small country 5,000 miles away is of no interest to Fox, NBC, CBS, and ABC, not to mention their newsprint counterparts.

It did not have to be so, and if there had been any spine or even a shred of conscience in the media, then all of this might have gone in another direction, leading to a serious inquiry into how a tiny foreign power has managed to create the most powerful lobby in Washington. When Freeman went down and dared to complain about his treatment, there was considerable noise in the blogosphere suggesting that the Israel lobby had finally overreached itself and would pay the price because everyone would now know just how much it interferes in American politics. That judgment proved premature, as did the suggestion by some that the victory over Freeman might prove Pyrrhic in nature, leading to future defeats. Others, including Stephen Walt, were not so sure, noting that the basis for AIPAC’s power in the media and within the government had not in any way been diminished. That has proven to be the case. A complaisant establishment media rolled over on the Harman story only weeks after Freeman.

So much for the Fourth Estate, where the only freedom of the press in evidence is the freedom to run as fast as possible from any story that is critical of Israel and its friends. The American public should wake up to the fact that the Freeman and Harman stories are serious in their implications, whether or not the media is interested. Freeman was appointed to head the National Intelligence Council, an essentially non-political position that is responsible for shaping the vitally important National Intelligence Estimates. He was supremely well qualified for the position and was esteemed for his maverick qualities, which led to the expectation that he would head a team that would challenge assumptions on existing policies in such a way as to make a repeat of the bad intelligence on Iraq unlikely. But when it was learned that Freeman had been particularly critical of Israeli settlement policies and had observed that the tie to Israel did not exactly serve the U.S.’ national interests, his appointment was heavily criticized. To be sure, the critics most often attacked Freeman by misrepresenting his views on China and links to Saudi Arabia, where he had served as ambassador, but everyone in Washington and the media knew that it was really all about Israel.

Bereft of any support from the White House, Freeman was doomed. Also doomed was any expectation that Washington might benefit from sound intelligence providing a realistic assessment of the threats facing the U.S., unadorned by the fake analysis dished out by interest groups like AIPAC. Leaders in the media could have actually enabled a debate about a sound foreign policy that actually works in our national interests, but they chose to walk away instead. If, as is likely, President Obama has learned his lesson from the Freeman affair and decides that it is better to go along with AIPAC than to resist it, business as usual will continue in Washington, with Israel’s current crop of right-wing fanatics, headed by Bibi Netanyahu, protected to the last drop of American blood and treasure.

Harman’s tale is somewhat different, but it also involves the Israel lobby as well as the considerable Israeli espionage effort directed against the United States. If the leaked accounts of Harman’s phone conversation with someone acting on behalf of Israeli intelligence are accurate, the congresswoman clearly knew her Israeli intelligence contact well and might have had similar conversations with him or her previously. She agreed to attempt to influence a reduction in the charges in the trial of accused AIPAC spies Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman. In return, Harman’s contact promised to support her bid to become chairman of the House Permanent Committee on Intelligence by pressuring House Speaker Nancy Pelosi through threats to withhold political contributions from Israeli billionaire Haim Saban if Harman was not given the position. Harman was later spoken of as a possible candidate to become director of central intelligence and, without the FBI wiretap, which became known to Pelosi, she might have obtained either position, or possibly both in succession.

Harman has denied that she did anything wrong, and she has tried to turn the tables by accusing the government of illegally recording her conversation, a red herring introduced by those trying to minimize the significance of the affair. Make no mistake, Harman was on the receiving end of an intelligence operation. Her phone conversation was recorded because she was talking to someone who was working with Israeli intelligence, which was the target of the investigation. Intelligence officers highly prize an agent of influence, which is a well-placed politician or media figure who will do one’s bidding, and they seek to obtain that cooperation by trading favors that both they and the target know are illegal. It was illegal for Harman to promise to interfere in a court case, something that her contact clearly was aware of. It was illegal for the agent of a foreign government to pressure the speaker of the House to promote Harman. Once such favors are exchanged, the intelligence officer has leverage to demand more because his new agent will cooperate rather than have the illegal details of the relationship revealed. That is how covert operations are taught at the CIA training center and every other intelligence school in the world. There should be no uncertainty about what was taking place, even if the mainstream media and Harman’s colleagues in government don’t get it. At last report, Harman is not being investigated, she has not been criticized by anyone in the government or in either party, and she just spoke at the AIPAC convention in Washington. So much for equal justice under law.

If the Freeman and Harman affairs taken together do not provide convincing proof that Israel and its advocates are no true friends to the United States, then it is difficult to imagine what else can be used to make the case. It is time to end the special relationship and treat Israel like every other country. If Israel sends its intelligence officers to America to break the law, they must be caught, exposed, and punished, just as if they were Chinese or Russian. If they spy on the U.S. and corrupt its politicians, they must pay a price. It is almost certainly too late to give justice to Chas Freeman or to give Jane Harman the punishment she so richly deserves, but it is time for the United States to send a clear signal that while it is prepared to be a good friend to Israel, it will not stand for any more interference with our politicians and government officials.

  • Nellie

    Excellent Article.

    I too have long been uncomfortable about the amount of influence exerted by AIPAC. Guess I am old school and like to see American Politicians and government employees working for American Citizens and what benefits the USA.

    Eric Holder is close to useless after his latest stunt of having the FBI stop investigating Black Muslims who go abroad to “study”. So Harmon will not be investigated under his watch. Neither will ACORN for that matter.

    Question. Holder is pulling FBI off Terrorism “duty” and transferring them to “Corruption Duties”. Perhaps I am missing something but in my mind “Terrorism” duty would require more personal contact and specialized training in dealing w/ groups of people and what to look for. It Seems logical to me that “Corruption” would require financial and auditing backgrounds to trace money. Is it just me or are they in fact two very different skill sets?

  • marktarheel

    jane harmon……..another corrupt democrat…john murtha…charlie rangel…pelosi…chris dodd….kent conrad…eliot spitzer…bob torricelli…roland burris….my god!…..this is ten times worse than the so-called “culture of corruption” from republicans…..

  • Solara 9

    You have cajones, Mr. Giraldi! Good for you. I remember when General Wes Clark made an off-handed comment about the unseen yet incredible power and influnce of AIPAC. He had trouble getting back on his political feet after that (even though he is half Jewish)–never did quite make it. If you call ‘em as you see ‘em, you are in trouble.

    Honesty is in trouble…

  • califlefty

    Giraldi is a serial anti-Israel and anti Jewish American basher AND a Holocaust denier. Here are some choice quotes from a letter he co-author in 1999 to his alumni magazine, I’ve added bolding for emphasis, hold your nose:

    “Holocaust as political industry.”
    Peter Novick asserts that the Holocaust has desensitized us to other genocides, but stops short of asking who invented the Holocaust in the first place. Who decided to capitalize the noun “holocaust” and transform genocide into a political weapon and fund-raising tool?

    In America, which had little to do with the event itself, there is an ever-growing Holocaust industry in academia. There is a Holocaust publishing industry and a Holocaust Hollywood. There are Holocaust museums and memorials trying to make concrete what might otherwise become dated and ephemeral. And there is the Holocaust-promoting chorus of wealthy and influential American Jews who make sure we never forget.

    “Never forgetting” is the best way to intensify the collective guilt on the part of America’s Christian majority and boost the Holocaust industry’s favorite political cause—the state of Israel. Guilt, laced with liberally dispensed charges of anti-Semitism for opponents and sweetened with a heavy sprinkling of PAC money, has made the Israel-firsters masters of the executive and legislative branches…. In short, can anyone deny that most invocations of the Holocaust are cynical and bogus? The Holocaust promoters understand that if you keep saying the same thing over and over again everyone will eventually believe it; i.e., that the Holocaust is the greatest evil in history and justifies special breaks not only for its survivors, but also for their descendants and co-religionists.

    Perhaps what is truly unique about the Holocaust is the ability of its exploiters to preemptively silence their critics. Surely within the University of Chicago community there must be many who recognize that the Holocaust industry has gone too far, that the Holocaust is far from being the central event of the century, and that its message of an exclusivity in suffering—serving to promote a Zionist agenda—is dubious at best. But the open expression of such views might be unwise. It is safer to remain silent.

    Philip M. Giraldi, AB’68
    Purcellville, Virginia
    John K. Taylor, AB’69
    Fort Worth, Texas

    Giraldi and his ilk make me sick. While it’s hardly surprising that people like him exist, what is surprising and disgusting is to have to repeatedly read and refute his venomous crap regularly even in a blog like this that wishes to be taken seriously.

  • Lily

    Mr Giraldi’s article makes perfect sense to me and seems emminently factual and logical. But, as clearspoken as Mr Giraldi is, he still does not point out certain facts that clearly bear on these circumstances as well…the most obvious being Obama’s chief of staff. I would venture to guess that Rahm Emmanuel and probably a host of other top advisors wield an enormous amount of overall influence. Given Obama’s paltry few years in the Senate, they probably have a lot more practical influence than he does in running the US Government. Are these individuals independent of AIPAC or are they an appendage of AIPAC? That is a fair question.

  • califlefty

    Apparently any criticism of Giraldi is vorbotten. Oh well, googling his name leads to the rubbish.

  • arch200

    Good article. This isn’t about antisemitic conspiracy theories that the Jews control the media and such. The media is a powerful arm of the Washington establishment. AIPAC has a huge influence on that establishment. Washington almost unconditionally supports Israels as a result. And so it drives the biased coverage we see in the press. That’s the model of bullshit coverage.

    Wingnuts still try to convince me that the mainstream media is pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel. LMFAO!

  • califlefty

    To quote former Sec. of State Georgwe Schultz: “The US supports Israel not out of favoritism based on political pressure or influence, but because both political parties, and virtually all our national leaders, agree with the American people’s view that supporting Israel is politically sound and morally just. Those who blame Israel and its Jewish supporters for US policies they do not support are wrong. They are wrong because support for Israel is in our best interests. They are wrong because Israel and its supporters have the right to try to influence US policy. And they are wrong because the US government is responsible for the policies it adopts, not any other state or any myriad lobbyists and groups that battle daily to win American support.”

    And from David Gergen (US News and World Report): “Over the course of four tours in the White House, I never once saw a decision in the Oval Office to tilt U.S. foreign policy in favor of Israel at the expense of America’s interests.”

    Should Giraldi (et al) be taken seriously? Why should anyone buy into analysis from the same people who missed the collapse of the Soviet Union and 9/11?

  • califlefty

    OK – my prior comment was posted (delayed?) so criticism is allowed and I compliment our esteemed host!

  • Diana

    I got news for he and all these men, the Holocaust should never be forgotten, just as what happened in Kenya when Obama’s cousin lost the election, Rwanda, 9/11, etc. I don’t care who is doing the funding to remind people. Thank you for another point of view. I care not to finish reading what he has to say.

  • JozefAL

    Was Giraldi so outspoken against AIPAC’s influence when Dubya and Cheney were in charge?
    For some reason, I’m thinking “no, not so much” but if anyone has evidence to the contrary, I’d be interested in knowing it. (My skepticism of his current outspokenness has to do with the publication for which he is a “contributing editor” as well as the group of which he is a “fellow”. The political ideology/agenda mentioned in his “resumé” did very little to counter the Bush/Cheney regime and was very hard-pressed to distance itself until well into 2006. And, no, I’m not interested in apologists who claim that Bush/Cheney usurped the ideology when most of that ideology’s most die-hard supporters and advocates seemed all too happy to claim the last administration as their own until the pair started looking to be a political liability for the ideology.)

  • Nellie

    Lily,

    That is more than a fair question – it si the absolute RIGHT question.

    Emanuel’s father, Benjamin. was a member of the Zionist Irgun:

    The Irgun was the armed expression of the nascent ideology of Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze’ev Jabotinsky. He expressed this ideology as “every Jew had the right to enter Palestine; only active retaliation would deter the Arabs and the British; only Jewish armed force would ensure the Jewish state”.[1]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

    They were brutal to the Palestinians who lived there when the Zionists started taking their land and throwing them out of their homes. About the equivalent of what the first Americans did the the Native Americnas only with more ferocity.

    Rahm himself went back to Israel to work for their Government during Gulf War I even though he himself was born in Chicago.

    Absolutely strong and deep roots with AIPAC.

    Sigh, why is it that our ancestor’s came here and gave their blood and sweat for this country – yet others who come to enjoy the standard of living and lifestyle feel it is okay to do things that harm the USA? Where do their true loyalties lie, and if not here than why not leave?

  • Nellie

    Giraldi served this country, the USA, honorably and well. He has been writing truth and trying to inform pretty much as Larry does. He is not a holocaust denier. He is simply pointing out that it is NOT RIGHT to perpetuate the use of Fear in order to manipulate and control others. D

    idya all enjoy 8 years of being told there were terrorists behind every bush and tree for 8 years? I sure as heck got very sick of using such s low level tactic on kids and the American people.

    Why is it called Anti-Semitism if we do not follow the given CAMERA talking points? I DO believe in Israel’s right to exist.

    What I do not agree with is the manner in which Native Americans were deprived of their land, the manner in which the Palestinians were made second class citizens in the land they had occupied for centuries, nor genocide of ANY peoples anywhere.

    By the way, I had (now deceased) a non-Jewish Aunt who was in Auswich for 3 years for the simple act of leaving clean hay, water and the barn door open in Poland for Jews escaping to Russia during WW II. She was turned in by some neighbors.

    What I hope I NEVER do is follow any rigid IDEOLOGY to the point where I cannot see the pros or cons of any given position. Then I become a Bot or Sheeple, incapable of inputting new facts and re-evaluating my positions. That would make me much less Human IMHO.

  • Nellie

    To answer your question yes Giraldi should be taken seriously. He served this country, the USA, honorably and well. And yes he did speak out during the Bush years.

    You 9/11 deniers keep forgetting that is was the people in the BUSH Administration who ignored the warnings and would not let people act. Please stop trying to use that old tired canard and blame everyone except the people who should be blamed.

    George Schultz himself is Jewish and affiliated with AIPAC. David Gergen is a good little puppet who lies as his masters order.

    Despite all the naysaying here – God it feels like a heated CAMERA convention – all Giraldi is pointing out is that the Zionists have turned the Holocaust into a political tool in order to greatly influence foreign policy of a country NOT their own. Just as Bush/Cheny and the Neo-Cons turned 9/11 into a politicized industry.

  • arch200

    He’s not denying the Holocaust. He’s criticizing that a tragic dark era in history is being used as a marketing tool to gain support for Israel by making people feel guilty.

    Now, you can disagree with the argument, but you can not say he’s a Holocaust denier for making the point. Just so you know, Jewish Americans and former Israeli government officials have made the same point. The first thing a diplomat is taken to when he or she goes to Israel is the Holocaust museum. It’s a message: don’t play with us. There are plenty of beautiful attractions in Israel, but those sites have lower priority.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    Oh please.

    Trying to make another party look worse, does not make your party look better. Or shall I run a list back atcha?

  • califlefty

    Sigh, why is it that our ancestor’s came here and gave their blood and sweat for this country – yet others who come to enjoy the standard of living and lifestyle feel it is okay to do things that harm the USA? Where do their true loyalties lie, and if not here than why not leave?

    This comment is bogus and racist. To question anyone,s loyality based on ethnic origin is slanderous. You should be at a minimum, banned.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    Tom Delay of the redistricting and money laundering fraud, Dennis Hastert of the Land Deal, Bill Frist family of the Medicare Fraud (3/4 of a billion) and the not so Blind Trust, Mr. Foley of the Children, Mssrs Ney and Cunningham of the Holy Bribe, Mr Craig of the Moving Feet……..just off the top of my head.

    Oh yeah, you guys look ten times better.

  • califlefty

    Even a simple google lookup of Schultz will find he is an Episcopalian, not Jewish. Even if he WERE Jewish, his statement would still be a statement of FACT, and that you would discount it based on your preconceived notion that since he is Jewish his opinion is biased says more about you then him.

    Feels like a heated “CAMERA convention”? No, more like tinfoil crashing into troofers, with a dash of Ron Paul craziness.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    correct, califlefty. what does mr. giraldi think AIPAC is doing? stopping us from having closer relationships with america-hating, human rights-denying muslim countries? and without AIPAC the US would *want* more friendly relationships with these criminals? i hope not.

  • arch200

    I agree. We hear it often about Arab and Muslim Americans today. And Israel’s racist minister Lieberman feels that Arab Israelis should pass “loyalty” tests.

    As long as you’re consistent, your statement is 100% valid.

  • Lily

    As Mr Giraldi said:

    “If Israel sends its intelligence officers to America to break the law, they must be caught, exposed, and punished, just as if they were Chinese or Russian. If they spy on the U.S. and corrupt its politicians, they must pay a price.”

    These comments are going nowhere as discussions of this issue tend to do. As long as we have an administration that respects the Constitution and laws of the USA, we should be okay. But that is exactly what I, for one, am worried about.

  • califlefty

    I agree. We hear it often about Arab and Muslim Americans today. And Israel’s racist minister Lieberman feels that Arab Israelis should pass “loyalty” tests.

    As long as you’re consistent, your statement is 100% valid.

    Who is calling for American Muslims to leave and go home? Anyone of consequence? And why are you conflating American Jews with Israeli (Zionist) Jews? Oh I see, when it’s “rhetorically convenient” Zionist (Israeli) and (American) Jews become one and the same. How 100% hypocritical.

  • califlefty

    What part of “who invented the Holocaust in the first place” and “the Holocaust is far from being the central event of the century, and that its message of an exclusivity in suffering—serving to promote a Zionist agenda—is dubious at best.” Don’t you get? Just splitting hairs perhaps, or merely thinking out loud?

    Words matter – words out of the mouth of a so call intelligence expert should matter even more. I hear him loud and clear and his words are pure evil.

  • arch200

    1. “but stops short of asking who invented the Holocaust in the first place. Who decided to capitalize the noun “holocaust” and transform genocide into a political weapon and fund-raising tool?”

    Poorly worded I agree. But not a denial of the event itself, but a bad way of referring to the invention of the marketing campaign.

    2. Left out this “and that its message of an exclusivity in suffering”,

    The “dubious at best” is a reference to the message, i.e. the marketing campaign, NOT the Holacaust campaign

    You are distorting the article. I don’t agree with all of it btw. I need more proof, more direct statements of Holocaust denial from this man to agree with your viewpoint.

  • califlefty

    I found this paper regarding Mr. Giraldi and his associates published by the Center for Secuirty Policy entitled Rise of the Iran Lobby most helpful in understanding Giraldi’s motives for posting his screed. I wonder if he would state for the record if he is a paid lobbyist or foreign agent?
    http://www.analyst-network.com/articles/117/RiseoftheIranLobbyTeheransfrontgroupsmoveonandintotheObamaAdministration.pdf

  • hokma

    I read Giraldi’s letter carefully and it is atrocious. There is not just one statement in question – it is the entire letter. He did not write this while he was in college so we can blame it on youthful insanity, it was written as a mature adult. He has no credibility and this post therefore has no credibility.

    Clearly he is a anti-Semitic bigot and regardless of the merits of his post, he is the last person who should be attacking any Jewish organizations or people after what he wrote. Frankly I see very little difference between what he wrote and the beliefs of Ahmadinejad.

  • hokma

    “the people in the BUSH Administration who ignored the warnings and would not let people act.”

    What specifically was the warning? Where was it supposed to happen and when specifically? And who were the people who were committing thsoe acts? There were a few things missing in thos bogus warnings like any specifics.

    “Giraldi is pointing out is that the Zionists have turned the Holocaust into a political tool in order to greatly influence foreign policy of a country NOT their own.”

    Are you just ignorant and just anti-Semitic? There is no difference between what Giraldi (and now you) said and the statements of equally ignorant bigots like Ahmadinejad.

    Clearly you are a bigot and shoule not be responded to further.

  • ces

    You’re proving Giraldi’s point.

  • hokma

    Giraldi has no point other than his anti-Semitism.

  • http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com Halli Casser-Jayne

    What a ridiculous piece.! AIPAC = AMERICA’S Pro-Israel Lobby. Who is this guy? He hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about! And this line: “It is time for the United States to send a clear signal that while it is prepared to be a good friend to Israel, it will not stand for any more interference with our politicians and government officials.” I thought America was a democracy. Again, AIPAC is America’s Israel Lobby. For more background visit http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com

    Halli Casser-Jayne
    author, A Year In My Pajamas With President Obama, The Politics of Strange Bedfellows

  • http://! stodgie

    sigh! it seems to me airpac has too much power. i have read some intereting articles on them. but to use this particular “author” for purposes of criticism seems to be a poor idea at best.

    obama’s decisions regarding israel regardless of airpac deserve scrutiny. that is another reason why obama should never have been elected. take a look at his background. all his followers think he is the perfect one for this whereas i think he is all wrong. we needed a hillary clinton for this delicate handiwork not a shallow fool.

  • arch200

    Huh? I did not mention American Jews. I’m agreeing with your statement: it is racist to suggest that a certain group of people should prove their loyalrt.

  • http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com Halli Casser-Jayne

    This is an absurd piece! Who is this guy? AIPAC is America’s Pro-Israel Lobby. As far as I know, America is a democracy. Candidate Obama surely had no problem going to AIPAC and soliciting votes. Of course, Obama lied to AIPAC when he said as President he would be a friend to Israel. But that’s another topic.

    Halli Casser-Jayne http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com

  • http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com Halli Casser-Jayne

    Since when does NoQuarter censor comments?

  • ces

    So, to criticize ANYTHING about Israel’s policy TODAY, makes you a bigot and Holocaust denier?

    Can one be horrified about what the Nazi’s did to the Jews and the Gypsies and others, and still find fault with how Israel conducts its international intelligence (especially in regards to US national security)?

    To what country does your first loyalty lie, hokma?

    If somebody is spying on US leadership it’s a punishable crime, regardless of who it is. To want Israel to stop spying on US officials has NOTHING to do with the Holocaust. The more you make it so, the more you continue to prove Giraldi’s (and others) points about the “special” treatment given Israel.

  • NomNomNom

    it’s the Spaminator, it’s getting everyone today

  • hokma

    The guy’s argument concrning the holocaust is plain ignorant and support for it is indefensible.

  • http://www.what-is-this.com/ What-is-this

    It is time to end the special relationship and treat Israel like every other country. If Israel sends its intelligence officers to America to break the law, they must be caught, exposed, and punished, just as if they were Chinese or Russian. If they spy on the U.S. and corrupt its politicians, they must pay a price. It is almost certainly too late to give justice to Chas Freeman or to give Jane Harman the punishment she so richly deserves, but it is time for the United States to send a clear signal that while it is prepared to be a good friend to Israel, it will not stand for any more interference with our politicians and government officials.

  • marktarheel

    tom delay……acquited…..dennis hastert…not charged…..bill frist…..no charges……mark foley is a pervert that republicans threw under the bus……….this isnt about making a list….its about honest govt…….and the dems are are on the short side of the stick.again

  • ces

    Gosh, Pelosi’s been charged and found quilty? Wow. That’s news to me.

    Just ‘cuz you don’t like somebody (and I don’t like her) doesn’t mean you can lump them in with those who have been found guilty.

    Both sides have issues. Deal with it.

  • ces

    Answer the bloody questions, troll.

  • marktarheel

    I never claimed pelosi was charged with a crime……I claimed she is corrupt……lets take off our left wing hats for a little while…..get some air in between your ears…quite refreshing

  • hokma

    The answer to a bigot like you is nothing.

  • SN in MN

    All looked good and accurate to me. You are the one with the delusional world view. Do you really believe the crap you wrote, or is it just attempted mind control for the peasants?

  • SN in MN

    You’re either a fanatical propagandist, or a nut case. You are a pro-semetic bigot.

  • SN in MN

    Nice try. tha’s how it’s done isn’t it? Start throwing around accusations of anti-semitism (or in the case Of TBP, racism) and shut down any discussion. And lots of people are influenced by their ethnic background, so it’s a fair question.

  • califlefty

    “t is time to end the special relationship….” Do you really think that relationship is a one-way street? Perhaps you think Israel doesn’t share a tremendous amount of technical and human intelligence with the US? Your self-righteous comments are an insulting to perhaps America’s staunchest ally.

  • SN in MN

    You’re the bigot, and possibly a traitor.

  • SN in MN

    Why don’t you ask that of Jane Harman? Oh, that’s right! She just takes the pay-offs with out taking the credit.

  • SN in MN

    Where did you come from? Googling for any hint of criticism of Israel, then swooping in for an attack?

  • SN in MN

    Yeah, right. If not for the constant and gratuitous support from the US, Israel would be nothing, but a little pipsqueak. It is pretty much a one-way street, and we’re (the US)getting the shaft.

  • Docelder

    Obama surely had no problem going to AIPAC and soliciting votes.

    To me that is the problem, maybe the deepest problem with our political system. Lobbyists are the only voices being heard. So, the discussions revolve around who got the most for their lobbying efforts, and whether some lobbies feel neglected. Lost in all of this is that we are a nation of people, and that the government is supposed to be representing our interests… not lobbies.

  • J

    Today June 8 2009 is the 42nd Anniversary of the infamous unprovoked Israeli attack on an unarmed U.S. military ship the USS LIBERTY.

    http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/eyewitness-to-an-act-of-war%E2%80%A6an-air-force-officer-speaks-with-afp-about-the-uss-liberty/

    Eyewitness to an Act of War…A US Air Force Intelligence Officer Speaks with American Free Press About the USS Liberty
    Published June 6, 2007

    The outrage in his voice was made all the more striking by his New England accent and Yankee assertiveness that long ago brought about the American Revolution. ‘I couldn’t believe it…One minute, nothing, and then the next minute they were attacking our ship in broad daylight…We had no warning that it was coming, and then ‘boom,’ there it was, and our guys were being slaughtered.’

    Like hundreds of other individuals who have particular stories to tell concerning their actions and whereabouts on June 8th 1967 when the USS Liberty was attacked by the air and naval forces of Israel, Capt. Richard Block’s testimony is noteworthy, but in some respects much more important than others. At that time, he was in command of the 6931st Security Group of the USAF Security Services stationed on the island of Crete where his job was to act as the eyes and ears of the US intelligence community. What he and the others under his command heard that day obliterates the lie that has been foisted upon the people of the United States for the last 40 years that the attack was all the result of ‘mistaken identity’ and proves beyond any reasonable doubt that it was a deliberate and premeditated act of war.

    ‘We were getting the translations in real-time’ he said, speaking of the air-to-air and air-to-ground communications taking place between the pilots and C&C (command and control) on the ground in Israel. ‘They knew it was an American ship. We heard it with our own ears, several times. The story they have told for the last 40 yrs about the Liberty being mistaken for another ship is complete bull****.’

    Like others who were material witnesses to the act of war that took place that day, Capt. Block was told in crystal clear terms that he was to keep his mouth shut concerning what he saw and heard. Shortly thereafter, individuals unknown to him showed up at his post, gathered up any documentation dealing with the Israeli intercepts and hauled them away to be destroyed. And lest anyone fall victim to the typical business that Israel’s defenders employ when attempting to cover up her crimes–namely that one man’s testimony is ‘insufficient’ evidence in refuting what has been the standard explanation for the last 40 years–keep in mind that he is not alone.

    Two other individuals contacted by American Free Press for this story have related circumstances identical to those of Capt. Block, although (for obvious reasons) they insist upon remaining anonymous. According to their statements, they too heard the radio chatter between the Israeli pilots and those on the ground who were giving the orders to attack, and there was no doubt Israel knew unequivocally that it was an American ship and that it was her aim to sink the Liberty and leave no survivors, as dead men tell no tales. One individual interviewed for this piece told American Free Press that ‘bets were made’ amongst the men in his listening post as to which city in Israel was going to get ‘nuked first’ once the President was made aware of what took place.

    As far as Capt. Block (who has remained silent these last 3 decades) the event prompting him to speak out was (as in the case of Capt. Ward Boston, chief legal council for the Navy’s Board of Inquiry) the publication of Jay Ahron Cristol’s book ‘The Liberty Incident’ which exculpated Israel of any wrongdoing. When Capt. Block was made aware of the contents in Cristol’s book and heard that the author was going to be at a book signing in a nearby town, he paid him a personal visit to speak his mind. In front of approximately 120 people there that day to hear Cristol run his mouth (including the upper-crust of the town’s intelligentsia and politicians) Capt. Block got up and said that the book was a pack of lies. ‘I was there the day that the Liberty was attacked, and you weren’t’ he told a shocked Cristol, whose drooling support for the Jewish state is well-known. ‘I got the raw milk of the intelligence and all you got was the processed cheese.’

    Much to his surprise, nothing ill came of Capt. Block’s confrontation with Cristol. Capt. Block has his theories as to why, namely that right now what the ‘powers that be’ want (during a time when American support for Israel is crucial for her existence) is that no attention be drawn to the events of June 8, 1967. ‘In my opinion’ he told AFP ‘what they want is for all of us to just die off so that the whole Liberty thing will become forgotten history’.

    For Capt. Block though, silence is no longer an acceptable option. ‘What I want is justice for those guys. What was done to them was an outrage. Personally I think it was divine providence the ship didn’t sink. I am not interested in any notoriety, just justice…justice for our men and for our flag. The bottom line is that this was an act of war perpetrated against the United States and the American people need to know about it.’

    Many theories have been offered over the years concerning Israel’s motives for attacking the USS Liberty that day. Some say it was to cover-up her war crimes in the Sinai desert when she murdered over 250 Egyptian soldiers who had surrendered peaceably. Some say that it was because she was planning to take the Golan Heights in Syria and did not want the news of this impending attack to get out. When asked about what he thought Israel’s motives were, Capt. Block’s answer was simple–That Israel wanted to drag the United States into the war against the Arab countries so that the blood of America’s Christians would be spilled rather than that that of Israel’s Jews.

    In interviewing other survivors of the USS Liberty, AFP has learned that some 15 years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached some of the servicemen (as well as former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey) and revealed to them that as the lead pilot in the attack that day he recognized the Liberty as American and informed his headquarters. Nevertheless, he was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. As a result of his refusal to do so he was immediately arrested after returning to base. Backing up his damning statements are those of former U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter who has also stated publicly that the Israeli pilot’s radio transmission was heard by US monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon.

    The attack on the USS Liberty by the air and naval forces of Israel that resulted in the deaths of 34 of America’s young men was as much an act of war against the United States as was the sneak attack on Pearl harbor by the Japanese in 1941. The only difference between the two was that the Japanese did not have the machinery in place at that time to cover it up and lie about it as Israel has for the last 40 years. Rather than justice, what the American people have been given since that time is lies and further involvement in the tangled affairs of a gangster nation founded on duplicity, genocide and a mad thirst for world domination. As a reward for the murder of 34 sailors aboard the Liberty, Israel–rather than being given a declaration of war by the US Congress–has instead been given (by some accounts) over a trillion dollars with which to further endanger the liberty and security of the American people.

    ‘Better late than never,’ as the old saying goes, and with that in mind, being that the Congress of the United States refuses to execute its duty with respect to protecting and defending the people and interests of the United States, it is high time then that the American people themselves declare that a state of war exists between them and the Jewish state and take all steps necessary in prosecuting this war to a just conclusion. Anything short of this is national suicide, as events taking place today prove on a regular basis.

    2007 by Mark Glenn

    Correspondent–American Free Press

    http://www.americanfreepress.net

    http://www.crescentandcross.com

    americanfreepress@yahoo.com

  • Docelder

    42nd anniversary… well that explains the I-bots.

  • Docelder

    it is high time then that the American people themselves declare that a state of war exists between them and the Jewish state

    That part is harsh and over the top, no doubt. But, in the end this is much about a foreign lobby. That lobby has protectors every bit as fanatical as those pimping for Obama. History notwithstanding.

  • Docelder

    It is very troubling to me that certain topics cannot be breached openly in our society without the insinuation of bigotry or prejudice. We need to mature as a society, and we need to do it quickly.

  • ces

    You’re not a very good advocate for your beliefs. Just keep that in mind.

    Have a wonderful day, Hokma.

  • califlefty

    I see the haters have found a safe haven on this site – pity. Why did you fail to commemorate June 4th? Will you remind us of the significance of July 3rd?

    June 4th 1939 was the Day President Roosevelt gave explicit instructions refusing entry of the SS St. Louis which was carry 936 Jewish refugees seeking asylum from the Nazis, that callous political act would cause most to perish in the concentration camps. A deliberate act, not an accident. And as July 3rd, well that was the day the in 1988 the US shot down and Iranian jetliner killing all on board. A tragic error. These events are now footnotes in history where they belong, They do not reflect on the moral character of America or Americans, and are rarely if ever brought up by anyone as a way of casting hate or doubt on the American people. Yet the events of the USS Liberty, which are totally in dispute and thorough investigations have come to the conclusion that it was an error in the fog of war are use as a cudgel by the haters who would demonize Israel and Jews for an event that belongs in history. They site long minute tomes of “facts” in the same way the 9/11 troofers fill reams of “facts that prove”… nothing but their own vicious demonization that gives them the sense they a playings out an important role that is little but sound and fury signifying nothing. Best we let them live in their own hollow echo chamber of self loathing pity.

  • wbboei

    What is the matter with you? You justify one wrong by invoking another? Is that the thrust of your rebuttal? Why not say they are both wrong, and two wrongs do not make a right.

  • J

    http://www.english.globalarabnetwork.com/200906071097/Press-Roundup/uss-liberty-navy-vet-who-foiled-israeli-attack-honored.html

    USS LIBERTY: Navy Vet Who Foiled Israeli Attack Honored

    Ray McGovern *

    Sunday, 07 June 2009 18:59

    What’s the difference between murder and massacre?
    The answer is Terry Halbardier, whose bravery and ingenuity as a 23-year-old Navy seaman spelled the difference between the murder of 34 of the USS Liberty crew and the intended massacre of all 294.

    The date was June 8, 1967; for the families of the 34 murdered and for the Liberty’s survivors and their families, it is a “date which will live in infamy” – like the date of an earlier surprise attack on the U.S. Navy.

    The infamy is twofold: (1) the Liberty, a virtually defenseless intelligence collection platform prominently flying an American flag in international waters, came under deliberate attack by Israeli aircraft and three 60-ton Israeli torpedo boats off the coast of the Sinai on a cloudless June afternoon during the six-day Israeli-Arab war; and (2) President Lyndon Johnson called back carrier aircraft dispatched to defend the Liberty lest Israel be embarrassed – the start of an unconscionable cover-up, including top Navy brass, that persists to this day.

    Given all they have been through, the Liberty survivors and other veterans – who joined Halbardier to celebrate his belated receipt of the Silver Star – can be forgiven for having doubted that this day would ever come. In the award ceremony at the Visalia, Calif., office of Rep. Devin Nunes, the Republican congressman pinned the Silver Star next to the Purple Heart that Halbardier found in his home mailbox three years ago

    Nunes said, “The government has kept this quiet I think for too long, and I felt as my constituent he [Halbardier] needed to get recognized for the services he made to his country.”

    Nunes got that right. Despite the many indignities the Liberty crew has been subjected to, the mood in Visalia was pronouncedly a joyous one of Better (42 Years) Late Than Never. And, it did take some time to sink in: Wow, a gutsy congressman not afraid to let the truth hang out on this delicate issue.

    Treatment Accorded the Skipper

    As we gathered in Congressman Nunes’ office, I could not get out of my head the contrast between this simple, uncomplicated event and the rigmarole that senior Navy officers went through to pin a richly deserved Medal of Honor on another hero of that day, the Liberty’s skipper, Capt. William McGonagle.

    Although badly wounded by Israeli fire on June 8, 1967, McGonagle was able to keep the bombed, torpedoed, napalmed Liberty afloat and limping toward Malta, where what was left of the bodies of the 34 crewmen killed and the 174 wounded could be attended to.

    Do the math: yes, killed and wounded amounted to more than two-thirds of the Liberty crew of 294.

    I remembered what a naval officer involved in McGonagle’s award ceremony told one of the Liberty crew: “The government is pretty jumpy about Israel … the State Department even asked the Israeli ambassador if his government had any objections to McGonagle getting the medal.”

    When McGonagle received his award, the White House (the normal venue for a Medal of Honor award) was all booked up, it seems, and President Johnson (who would have been the usual presenter) was unavailable. So it fell to the secretary of the navy to sneak off to the Washington Navy Yard on the banks of the acrid Anacostia River, where he presented McGonagle with the Medal of Honor and a citation that described the attack but not the identity of the attackers.

    Please don’t misunderstand. The Liberty crew is not big on ceremony. They are VERY-not-big on politicians who wink when Navy comrades are killed and wounded at sea.

    Getting the Truth Out

    The Liberty survivors are big on getting the truth out about what actually happened that otherwise beautiful day in June 1967. Last Wednesday’s award of the Silver Star to Terry Halbardier marked a significant step in the direction of truth-telling. Is it too much to hope that the example set by Nunes may embolden other lawmakers to right the wrongs done to their Liberty-veteran constituents – and thus to chip away at what’s left of the cover-up?

    Halbardier said he accepted his Silver Star on behalf of the entire 294-man crew. He and fellow survivor Don Pageler expressed particular satisfaction at the wording of the citation, which stated explicitly – with none of the usual fudging – the identity of the attackers: “The USS Liberty was attacked by Israeli aircraft and motor torpedo boats in the East Mediterranean Sea….” In the past, official citations, like Capt. McGonagle’s, had avoided mentioning Israel by name when alluding to the attack.

    I think former U.S. ambassador Edward Peck put it best in condemning this kind of approach as “obsequious, unctuous subservience to the peripheral interests of a foreign nation at the cost of the lives and morale of our own service members and their families.” Strong words for a diplomat. But right on target.

    Were it not for Halbardier’s bravery, ingenuity, and technical expertise, the USS Liberty would surely have sunk, taking down much – if not all – of the crew. Israeli commando helicopters were ready to take care of any personnel still that survived the sinking.

    The first thing the Israeli aircraft bombed and strafed were the Liberty’s communications antennae and other equipment. They succeeded in destroying all the antennae that were functional. One antenna on the port side, though, had been out of commission and had escaped damage.

    On Deck – Just a Guy From Texas

    In receiving the Silver Star, Halbardier made light of his heroism, claiming that he was just a guy from Texas who could do a whole lot with simple stuff like baling wire. (In the infantry we called this kind of thing a “field expedient.”) In any case, with his can-do attitude and his technical training, he figured he might be able to get that particular antenna working again. But first he would have to repair a cable that had been destroyed on deck and then connect the antenna to a transmitter.

    The deck was still being strafed, but Halbardier grabbed a reel of cable, ran out onto the deck, and attached new cable to the antenna so a radioman could get an SOS out to the 6th fleet in the Mediterranean.

    Voilà. “Mayday” went out; almost immediately the Israeli aircraft and torpedo ships broke off the attack and went back to base; the Israeli government sent a quick apology to Washington for its unfortunate “mistake;” and President Johnson issued orders to everyone to make believe the Israelis were telling the truth – or at least to remain silent.

    To their discredit, top Navy brass went along, and the Liberty survivors were threatened with court-martial and prison if they so much as mentioned to their wives what had actually happened. They were enjoined as well from discussing it with one another. As Liberty crewman Don Pageler put it, “We all headed out after that, and we didn’t talk to each other.”

    The circumstances were ready-made for serious post-traumatic stress disorder.
    The stories shared by Liberty survivors after the award ceremony, including descriptions of the macabre but necessary effort to reassemble torpedoed body parts, and the plague of survivor’s guilt, were as heart-rending as any I have heard. They are stories that should be shared more widely for those muzzled far too long – those who, even 42 years later, might be helped by being in contact with other Liberty survivors, and being able to talk about it.

    These were the deep emotional scars to supplement the ones all over Halbardier’s body, some of which he uncovered when asked by the local press gathered there in Visalia. Typically, Halbardier made light of the shrapnel that had to be plucked out of his flesh, emphasizing that he was lucky compared to some of the other crew.

    No Mistake

    Despite Israeli protestations, the accumulated evidence, including intercepted voice communications, is such that no serious observer believes Israel’s “Oops” excuse of a terrible mistake.

    The following exchanges are excerpts of testimony from U.S. military and diplomatic officials given to Alison Weir, founder of “If Americans Knew” and author of American Media Miss the Boat:

    Israeli pilot to ground control: “This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?”

    Ground control: “Yes, follow orders.”

    Pilot: “But sir, it’s an American ship – I can see the flag!”

    Ground control: “Never mind; hit it!”

    Haviland Smith, a CIA officer stationed in Beirut during the Six-Day War, says he was told that the transcripts were “deep-sixed,” because the U.S. government did not want to embarrass Israel.

    Tapes Also Destroyed

    Equally telling is the fact that the National Security Agency (NSA) destroyed voice tapes seen by many intelligence analysts showing that the Israelis knew exactly what they were doing.

    I asked a former CIA colleague, who was also an analyst at that time, what he remembered of those circumstances. Here is his e-mail reply:

    “The chief of the analysts studying the Arab-Israeli region at the time told me about the intercepted messages and said very flatly and firmly that the pilots reported seeing the American flag and repeated their requests of confirmation of the attack order. Whole platoons of Americans saw those intercepts. If NSA now says they do not exist, then someone ordered them destroyed.”
    One need hardly add at this point that the destruction of evidence without investigation is an open invitation to repetition in the future.

    Think interrogation videotapes, for example.

    As for the legal side: the late Capt. Ward Boston, unburdened himself on his accomplice role as the Navy lawyer appointed as senior counsel to Adm. Isaac Kidd, who led a one-week (!) investigation and then followed orders to pronounce the attack on the Liberty a case of “mistaken identity.”

    Boston signed a formal declaration on Jan. 8, 2004, in which he said he was “outraged at the efforts of the apologists for Israel in this country to claim that this attack was a case of ‘mistaken identity.’” Boston continued:

    “The evidence was clear. Both Adm. Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack … was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. … Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded – a war crime.

    “I know from personal conversations I had with Adm. Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of ‘mistaken identity’ despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.”

    Col. W. Patrick Lang, USA (ret.), who was the Defense Intelligence Agency’s top analyst for the Middle East for eight years, recounted the Israeli air attacks as follows:

    “The flight leader spoke to his base to report that he had the ship in view, that it was the same ship he had been briefed on, and that it was clearly marked with the U.S. flag.

    “The flight commander was reluctant. That was very clear. He didn’t want to do this. He asked them a couple of times, ‘Do you really want me to do this?’ I’ve remembered it ever since. It was very striking. I’ve been harboring this memory for all these years.”

    Lang, of course, is not alone. So too Terry Halbardier, who told those assembled last Wednesday, “I think about it [the attack on the Liberty] every day.”

    Why Sink the Ship?

    What we know for sure is, as the independent commission headed by former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Thomas Moorer put it, the attack “was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew.”
    What we do not know for sure is why the Israelis wanted that done. Has no one dared ask the Israelis?

    One view is that the Israelis did not want the United States to find out they were massing troops to seize the Golan Heights from Syria and wanted to deprive the U.S. of the opportunity to argue against such a move.

    James Bamford offers an alternative view in his excellent book Body of Secrets. Bamford adduces evidence, including reporting from an Israeli journalist eyewitness and an Israeli military historian, of wholesale killing of Egyptian prisoners of war at the coastal town of El Arish in the Sinai. The Liberty was patrolling directly opposite El Arish in international waters but within easy range to pick up intelligence on what was going on there. And the Israelis were well aware of that.

    But the important thing here is not to confuse what we know (the deliberate nature of the Israeli attack) with the ultimate purpose behind it, which remains open to speculation.

    Also worth noting is the conventional wisdom prevalent in our Fawning Corporate Media (FCM) that Egypt forced Israel into war in June 1967. An excellent, authoritative source has debunked that – none other than former Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin! In an unguarded moment in 1982, when he was prime minister, he admitted publicly:

    “In June 1967, we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that [Egyptian President] Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”
    Thus, the Israeli attack admittedly amounted to starting a war of aggression, and the occupied West Bank territories and the Golan Heights – gained by the Israelis in the 1967 war – remain occupied to this day.

    The post-WWII tribunal at Nuremberg distinguished a “war of aggression” from other war crimes, terming it the “supreme international crime, differing from other war crimes only in that it contains the accumulated evil of the whole.”
    Perhaps the attempt to sink the Liberty and finish off all survivors qualifies as one of those accumulated evils.

    Terry Halbardier summed it up this way on Wednesday: “There’s lots of theories, but let’s just say they didn’t want us listening in to what they wanted to do.”

    Getting Away With Murder

    In sum, on June 8, 1967, the Israeli government learned that it could get away with murder, literally, and the crime would be covered up, so strong is the influence of the Israel Lobby in our Congress – and indeed, in the White House. And those USS Liberty veterans who survived well enough to call for an independent investigation have been hit with charges of, you guessed it, anti-Semitism.

    Does all this have relevance today? Of course.

    Benjamin Netanyahu, the new Israeli prime minister, has now had an up-close-and-personal chance to take the measure of our new president and has already thumbed his nose at Barack Obama’s plea for a halt in illegal construction of Israeli settlements in the occupied territories.

    The Israelis seem convinced they remain in the catbird’s seat, largely because of the Israel Lobby’s influence with U.S. lawmakers and opinion makers – not to mention the entrée the Israelis enjoy to the chief executive himself by having one of their staunchest allies, Rahm Emanuel, in position as White House chief of staff.

    The recent Obama-Netanyahu encounter reminded me very much of the meeting in Vienna between another young American president and Nikita Khrushchev in early June 1961. The Soviets took the measure of President John Kennedy, and we got the Cuban missile crisis, bringing the world close to nuclear destruction.
    Netanyahu is currently whipping up frenzy and fear in the face of what he calls the “existential threat” posed by Iran – frenzy about the “danger” from Iran that could lead to military action of some kind. So confident is Netanyahu of the solidity of his position with movers and shakers in the U.S. that he may be sorely tempted to mount the kind of provocation that would be aimed at confronting Obama with an unwelcome choice between joining an Israeli attack on Iran or facing dire political consequences at home.

    And nothing is outlandish any more. Remember Seymour Hersh’s report about Cheney’s office conjuring up plots as to how best to trigger a war with Iran?
    “The one that interested me [SH] the most was why don’t we build – we in our shipyard – build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy SEALs on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up.”

    Mullen’s Message

    President Obama might want to think about delivering a pointed message via a senior U.S. military officer. It worked last time.

    In early July 2008, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen was sent to Israel to read the riot act to then-prime minister Ehud Olmert, who seemed to be itching to start hostilities with Iran while Bush and Cheney were still in office.

    We learned from the Israeli press that Mullen, to his credit, went so far as to warn the Israelis not to even think about another incident like the attack on the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967 – that the Israelis should disabuse themselves of the notion that U.S. military support would be knee-jerk automatic if Israel somehow provoked open hostilities with Iran.

    This is the only occasion of which I am aware when a U.S. official of such seniority braced Israel about the Liberty incident. A gutsy move, especially with Cheney and Elliott Abrams then in the White House, two hawks who would bless – or even encourage – an Israeli provocation that would make it very difficult for Washington to avoid springing to the defense of its “ally.”

    The Israelis know that Mullen knows that the attack on the Liberty was deliberate. Mullen could have raised no more neuralgic an issue to take a shot across an Israeli bow than to cite the attack on the Liberty. The Jerusalem Post reported that Mullen cautioned that a Liberty-type incident must be avoided in any future military actions in the Middle East.

    Will Netanyahu give more weight to Mullen or to pro-Israel politicians like Sen. Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey? Lautenberg, who has visited Israel 80 times since 1968, spoke with the Jerusalem Post earlier this week and pledged full support for pretty much whatever Israel wants to do:

    “Israel didn’t ask us permission to drop bombs twice on Syrian nuclear facilities. I don’t hear America scolding Israel for what it did then. Hypothetically, if Israel were able to get rid of Iran’s nuclear bomb-making capability, I’m sure that America would not send Israel a chastising e-mail message. We have to give Israel the courtesy of [allowing it to] make its own decisions.”

    For good measure, Lautenberg said Israel “won’t return to the ‘67 borders. They are insufficient to permit Israel to function.”

    Let me ask again: Will Netanyahu give more weight to Mullen over Lautenberg and a pro-Israel U.S. secretary of state (Hillary Clinton) who spoke about “obliterating” Iran during last year’s campaign?

    In gauging President Obama’s clout with the Washington power-brokers, Netanyahu is likely to draw conclusions more from things like Obama’s inability, or reluctance, to turn off the feckless, counterproductive sabotage squads inside Iran, than from any warnings Netanyahu may have heard from the president to please not attack Iran.

    Seems we are pretty much back where we were a year ago, when it looked like Olmert might mount some kind of provocation involving Iran. Perhaps President Obama should send Adm. Mullen back to Israel.

    And perhaps this time Mullen should take Terry Halbardier with him.
    Netanyahu needs to be confronted without delay. And June 8, 2009 the 42nd Anniversary of the attempted sinking of the USS Liberty, could prove an interesting time to be in Tel Aviv.

    * Raymond McGovern is a retired CIA officer turned political activist. McGovern was a Federal employee under seven U.S. presidents over 27 years, presenting the morning intelligence briefings at the White House for many of them.
    - This article originally appeared at ConsortiumNews.com

  • califlefty

    “The Lord of the Rings” is 3 volumes long, and yet it too remains a fiction. I don’t bother debating the Liberty Myth, anyone interested in ancient history can find the facts at this site: http://www.thelibertyincident.com/index.html

  • J

    So califlefty cites the liar Cristol and his website as his counter to the accounts of USS LIBERTY crewmen like Capt. Block who lived to tell about Israel’s murder of American military personnel.

    califlefty’s hasbra tactics can’t erase the first-hand USS LIBERTY crewman accounts of those who lived through Israel’s intentional attack on an unarmed U.S. military vessel and their cold-blooded murder of U.S. seamen.

  • ces

    Hey asshat, you list the Dims who are gassin’ up the place, so somebody posts the big gray farts’ list…

    …and you reply they haven’t been convicted.

    So I pointed out at least one example of a Dim who hasn’t even been charged!!

    And you pull out the “left wing…air in head” rhetorical vomit. Real swell.

    NEWSFLASH (again): Both sides have their corruption issues.

    Stick around, you’ll find that there’s some of us around here at NQ who will fault EITHER/ALL sides when appropriate. We don’t hide behind party lines. Keep that in mind, next time, please.

  • J

    correction — califlefty’s hasbra tactics can’t erase the first-hand Air Force intelligence intercept accounts of those like Capt. Block and the accounts of USS LIBERTY crewmen who lived through Israel’s intentional attack on an unarmed U.S. military vessel and their cold-blooded murder of U.S. seamen.

  • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

    ” … the Holocaust has desensitized us to other genocides”

    No, the opposite is true. Nazi is now a universal slur, it means the worst scum ever born. We call Bush-Cheney Nazis, some people call the Patriot Act ‘facist.’ We watch our cops and soldiers closely so they don’t turn into Gestapo garbage. Some even call the Israelis Nazis. The term is not limited to murdering Jews.

    What he calls the Holocaust ‘marketing campaign’ reminds us what human beings are capable of, why we can’t fall asleep on the Constitution, why we can’t use torture — or else we’ll turn into those filthy things, that vermin growing under the sink–Nazis. Yechh!

    It’s a strange person who thinks The House on Girabaldi Street, Schindler’s List, Au Revoir L’Enfants, are just about Jews. This is what the Holocaust means to me: “First the Jew. Then you!

  • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

    “If the Freeman and Harman affairs taken together do not provide convincing proof that Israel and its advocates are no true friends to the United States …”

    He loses me right there. Yes, he describes two fucked up examples of extreme hardball. Yes, prosecute Harman. But this doesn’t add up to proof that Israel is not an American ally. Not even close. That seems innocent to me–a childlike dream of what an ally is. This ruff stuff goes on between sovereign allies. It always has.

    A perfect example: between the world wars, the U.S. put pressure on Britain to end its treaty with Japan — the U.S. interfered with British foreign policy. That didn’t mean the U.S. and the U.K. weren’t allies.

    Israel has been at war forever. Now her enemies have changed the balance of power, stalemating the IDF and pressuring the U.S. with terrorism. All this b.s. about the magical powers of AIPAC — Israel’s leverage comes from its strategic position in the Middle East, not some Holocaust guilt trip. If they fall, we’re fucked. We know it and they know it. If you expect some kind of Mother Goose picnic lunch, you really should stay out of U.S. foreign policy.

  • J

    califlefty,

    Now you’ve gone and PISSED ME OFF you Hasbra little twerp. You and your rants against a fine CIA career officer like Phil Giraldi. Just what the hell have you done for our nation besides sitting on your dumb Hasbra ass and sleeping safe at night while individuals like Phil were overseas sticking their intelligence necks out to keep your little sorry ass safe and sound back here in our U.S.. Just what the hell have you done for our U.S.? Huh?

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