Comments on: Spies Like Them?

By: Mr.Murder

Mr.Murder — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:51:18 +0000

Perhaps famous direct mailer/operative outing specialist Karl Rove could share some experiences of that time. Has he not, or ever been, a red-baiting direct mailer?

Were civil rights leaders really in Castro’s league? Inquiring minds wanna know! PS- Don’t send me the same fan mail.

By: Mr.Murder

Mr.Murder — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:47:59 +0000

Larry nailed it, the guy is a ringer for the tobacco lobby. If you can’t beat ‘em, confess and implicate ‘em!

By: Mr.Murder

Mr.Murder — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:42:41 +0000

Has the Cuba lobby ever done any direct mailing campaigns that happened to sort through an air field in Alabama?

Oswald’s handlers used to work there, so did the most heroic mailsorter to ever fail to report duty….

You know there were direct mail campaigns calling MLK a commie that came out in that era as well, and delivered from the same place. How long exactly has the Bureau been doing psyops side jobs, and why? Why did Company handlers have contacts with the same circle of hustlers?

By: Mr.Murder

Mr.Murder — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:36:27 +0000

“5. Did the timing of this revelation have anything to do with talks underway at the OAS to readmit the Cubans to the OAS?”

You see how deeply the oil/tobacco lobby has its hands in the Bureau’s business. Cuba is too close to home, the compromoised Feds are getting involved with foreign policy.

Compare this to the NSA/CIA tug of war going on.

My initial thought was that this kind of stuff is payback for the other tug of war(notice the new Osama tape coming out right after the NSA/CIA kerfluffle emerged).

By: Chris Vosburg

Chris Vosburg — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:13:43 +0000

Nice piece, Larry. As you point out, there’s a slight smell of tuna about this, and it’s worth pursuing.

By: Cindy

Cindy — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:57:55 +0000

I think they did it for the cigars.
(I know my husband would)

By: foxyladi14

foxyladi14 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:34:25 +0000

lol

By: beebop

beebop — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:28:02 +0000

His grandfather was Alexander Graham Bell …. maybe they had some old equipment laying around?

By: BARB

BARB — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:25:45 +0000

This story makes no sense. Perhaps this is the bottom line:

“The Myerses’ arrest could affect congressional support for easing tensions with Cuba dating back to the Cold War. Two months ago, the Obama administration took steps to relax a trade embargo imposed on the island nation in 1962.”

This story does remind me of the 4 ex-con “terrorists” recently arrested after being setup by a government informer. Anyway, it give BO the opportunity to flip-flip on another of his so-called “promises”.

By: doug

doug — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 07:21:52 +0000

1. I think we had followed the couple a very long time. They were no longer useful to Cuba and there was little to be gained by not rolling them up.

2. The couple was probably feeling a bit alone and hence were vulnerable to the sting they fell for. Getting them to babble about the past was a real coup. Not something likely to happen except to a semi-retired, poorly handled grade C spy.

3. Good job with the sting since we can make a big case of it and reveal little of significance. The important thing is to make an example of them.

4. They are not and were not in the same league as Ames or Hanssen. Not even close.

5. As for what triggered it? Perhaps it was just a way to make up for the Franklin et al debacle.

By: Jesmi

Jesmi — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:35:25 +0000

I agree. If their job was regarding Cuba intelligence, then we don’t really know what would have been passed and whether passing it actually changed anything. Further, just guessing that whatever information Castro had, was passed to Russia. So, maybe the larger danger was the passing of methodology of operations as opposed to actual relevant Cuba information? Interesting story though.

By: Retired

Retired — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:30:16 +0000

We just don’t know enough about this yet (at least publically) to draw any conclusions. At this point, it sounds pretty nutty. But first reports ususally do.

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:06:44 +0000

Number five. The immediate and then the “Who and what is no longer useful” are to probabilities.

Timing is everything as it relates to disclosure.

First proxy by the Soviets and more recently China.

high risk cart switch to hand off documents at a public grocer

Cheap thrills? or was this a double blind?

By: Ellen D

Ellen D — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:57:12 +0000

This whole thing sounds like a bad movie. They got instructions by shortwave radio??? Anyone seen the British comedy series “Allo Allo”? Have they used those things since WW2?

Castro met them and gave them medals? Sure sounds undercover to me.

And the stuff they passed on by shopping cart weren’t official documents but their own reports? Who puts their opinions on paper leaving a paper trail – are they mute?

This sounds as wacko as the “terrorists” that turn out to be garden-variety crazies lured by the government.

I can’t wait to hear Larry’s opinion.

By: kat in your hat

kat in your hat — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:19:31 +0000

Maybe Cuba gave them up. Not like they needed them anymore anyway.

Here are more details on this story, might help answering Larry’s questions: “Couple accused of spying for Cuba for 30 years” http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090606/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_us_cuba_spy_charges