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Obama as a cultural leader rather than a political one

If you have never heard of or read Shelby Steele, you really should do yourself a favor and look him up. Steele, writer of many books about race in America (The Content of Our Character: A New Vision of Race in America and White Guilt: How Blacks and Whites Together Destroyed the Promise of the Civil Rights Era; are just two titles) is being interviewed here on FORA.tv – post election – about his book, A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited About Obama and Why He Can’t Win, published before the election.

Although Steele was wrong about Obama winning the presidency (and the paperback of the book will reflect that), I’ve never heard anyone so astutely explain what is going on with racial politics, how whites deal (or not deal) with racially charged issues and how Obama won the presidency.

I highly recommend the entire interview but have selected some time stamps for you if you don’t have 37 minutes. Just load the video and slide the time to the one I indicate for specific topics.

Obama Won his Campaign on White Guilt
6:32
Steele says that the candidacy of BO was only about race, not politics or policy, and about making whites feel good about progress in racial issues.

The Content of Obama’s Character
8:03
Steele says Obama’s charisma was all about race and Obama has never said exactly what he believes. Steele goes on to say, “We still don’t know the man,” but that eventually we will find out.

Obama was elected as a cultural symbol and not for anything he stands for.

Young Supporters Are Preoccupied with Race (A VERY INTERESTING POINT)
19:19
Quotation from Steele’s book: “There is an inherent contradiction in all this. When whites, especially today’s younger generation, proudly support Obama for his post-racialism, they unwittingly embrace race as their primary motivation.”

Steele goes on to say these voters could not tell you anything about Obama politically, only culturally. That proves politics and/or policy did not factor in their decision to vote for him.

Obama on Affirmative Action
21:46
Steele believes raced-based affirmative action will become more entrenched during the Obama administration.

GOP Is Now a Racist Party By Default (ALSO VERY INTERESTING)
30:07
Obama’s “moral authority” as a black man was irresistible to many white voters. Those voters, now feeling good about themselves having voted for a black man, feel free of racial taint. Those voters feel the “racist” stigma has been “passed” from anyone voting for Obama and is now focused “like a beam” on Republicans and conservatism, making both, by default, racist groupings. Like a game of hot potato, if you can pass it off to someone else, you’re off the hook.

Voting for Obama itself is a litmus test for racism.

————–

If Steele is right, and I’ve never heard a more likely explanation, the 2008 election split largely between voters treating Obama as a politician and those seeing him as proof of moral authority, gained or restored. If that sounds too squishy, it simply means many voters looked at Obama as a politician and voted for or against him on that basis. More voters, however, voted for Obama culturally – as a means of expiating guilt over past racial injustice (whites) or of finally gaining proof of equality (blacks).

The two positions, 1) voting on basis of political positions and 2) voting on the basis of cultural self-definition (I am NOT a racist; I AM Somebody), tend to be mutually exclusive in this instance. Indeed, those voting for Obama on a cultural/race basis often assume those voting against Obama did so on a cultural/race basis as well. So they call them racist and reject the idea that someone could possibly vote against Obama on political or other grounds.

So, we’ve got a president who makes a lot of people feel better about themselves. But we’ll have to find out the hard way if there’s anything more to the man himself. And in the meantime, we get to enjoy a new chapter in the race war. I call it the “you-didn’t-vote/support-Barack-so-you-must-be-a-racist” epoch.

Of course, there is also the “you-voted-for-Hillary-or-Sarah(bitch)-Palin-so-you-must-be-a-racist” corollary.

Great. Good times ahead.

  • rightagain

    I voted as a feminist. I supported Hillary and boycotted the Democratic National Committee. Does that make me a racist? I was not impressed. I voted for Sarah and if that’s upsetting, good.

  • Palm Tree

    The whole “post-racial” candidate was indeed only a sham. BO’s campaign relied heavily on the race-baiting that was used against the Clintons – and this epitomizes why Barack is a complete charalatan.

    Just as the entire campaign of slander BO waged against Clinton took place while Barack claimed some “higher idealism” (AKA Bamboozling, hoodwinking, etc – his signature and trademark).

  • Animal Control

    LisaB thanks for reminding me Living Colour – Cult Of Personality
    The power of music.

  • Peggy Sue

    I’ve always believed that Obama came to office on rotten foundations. And as we all know when the foundation is rotten, your house falls down. The Democratic Party sold its soul last year. As far as I could tell, they decided winning was everything and whatever it took [lying, cheating, sexism and race-baiting]they were willing to do.

    And now they’re trying to rewrite history. Only we’re going to have to deal with the present and future with a man in the WH, who certainly wasn’t ready on day 1 and appears only to be about making speeches. Words matter. But a leader is ultimately judged by his actions and results. So, I hope the Far Left is happy in pushing a mirage on the country in a time of economic havoc. They can all pat themselves on the backs for not being racists as we’re flushed down the toilet.

    Steele has made some very thought-provoking comments. Thanks for the vid, Lisa.

  • HC123

    Really interesting interview, thanks for posting it.

  • Linda Anselmi

    Very thought provoking! Thanks for posting the interview LisaB.

  • ame

    “Screw You”
    I like that; in fact, I say that all the time. I really don’t care what others think of me and I’m proud that I didn’t vote for Obama. In fact, I’ve been critical on this blog in reference to Sotomayor and the “identity politics” that goes on here. You know what I’m referring to …we MUST vote for Sotomayor because she will be the “First Hispanic Woman”

  • Dawnelle

    Bambi didn’t do sheeeeeeeeet (except bamboozle us)
    and STEAL the PRIMARIES.

    The MOE RONS that fell in line AFTER were damn sure not going to let another republican (any repug) keep the white house so they put the theft out of their minds mostly and just figured ANYONE would be better.

    THEY ARE NOW STARTING TO REGRET IT

    the VOTERS of MICHIGAN did NOT AGREE to giving/transferring their HILLARY (or edwards, etc) votes to OBAMBAM!!!! VOTES DO COUNT! FK THE DELEGATES!!

    THERE WAS NO 2ND VOTE
    THE RULES AND BYLAWS COMMITTEE TOOK THEM
    WITH THE BLESSINGS OF THE MICHIGAN DNC (APPARENTLY) CUZ I ONLY WITNESSED ONE MAN STAND UP AGAINST IT

    ONLY ONE (and he wasn’t even from Michigan that I know)

    wtf has happened to the truth & democracy??? Is it just over? Should we all just go home now and plow our fields and wait for the next hand out?

    fk that
    damn liars/punks/thieves
    WHY DON’T MORE PEOPLE CARE???? ARGH!
    it’s sooooooo disappointing

  • ame

    I mean “support” not “vote”

  • arran

    If you haven’t already begun to do so, it’s now time to think about preventing our descent by voting against Obama and his minions at the state level.

    No greater numbers of dems voted to Congress and no second term for Obama!

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    but there is Acorn…..

  • CamdenRave

    Is there anything that supports Steele’s positions? Like polls, maybe? Otherwise, he is just pulling stuff out of his rear-end. Anyone can make up anything. Even the fact that you agree with him doesn’t make it true.

  • arran

    Google him.

  • http://ontheseventhday.wordpress.com/ Al

    I voted for the McCain-Palin ticket because of their stance that country mattered more than anything else, even one self-centered single individual who is long on appearances but comes up short without the assistance of prepared remarks scrolling along a teleprompter. Where was Obama when North Dakota, South Dakota and Minnesota was working tirelessly around the clock to thrawt the impact of devastating flooding conditions? Paying them lip service, of course, from prepared remarks instead of rolling up his sleeves and exhibiting leadership on the ground, up close and personal. It was okay to travel 3000 miles for a late night television appearance, but….Where was Obama when Private William Long, an All-American hero, who had answered the call to stand on the frontlines of freedom for his country, lay motionless in the street after coming under attack from an deranged extremist? As with the Midwest flooding, he was away pandering to the world for approval/rock-star status, while fellow Americans needed him to exhibit where his priorities were/are. Have to admit though, Obama is a good talker…

  • CamdenRave

    On “the Daily Beast” there’s an article about No Quarter!

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-11/extremism-goes-viral/

  • http://noquarterusa No-nonsense-Nancy

    Thanks for posting the video, Lisa. Steele is vey impressive. I’m going to listen to the interview again. I’m not sure that Steel understands that Obama played the race card during his campaign or to the degree that he did. I feel that he knew that if he played it he could never lose, for the same reasons that steel cites in his interview and apparently his book, guilt and equality.

  • Carlaforhillary

    Polls can be made up as well.

  • Hg

    I voted against Obama because I didn’t want a racist for president. Besides that, I thought Hillary would be the better leader of our country, so I voted for her to win the nomination. As it now stands I think what is now called the democrat(ic) party are the ones who are the racists. Then since I objected to Hillary supporting and campaigning for Obama there are those who think I (and others like me) are mysoginist. Seems as if the Alinsky man played us all like a violin. In the end I voted for the Republican and I will vote Republican again in the next election, regardless of which democrat runs.

  • Carlaforhillary

    No Quarter is not mentioned in the article. I understand your “irony,” but if you want to prove your own argument in your previous post before this one, you wouldn’t have posted the link to the Daily Beast article. It’s an opinion piece based on the writer’s view about other people’s view.

    You are going to say what the Daily Beast writer has to say is more valid than Shelby Steele? Really?

  • HC123

    Exactly what “position” would you require “polling data” to understand?

    What do you feel Mr. Steele made up (or “pulled out his rear end”, to use your charming and colourful phrase)?

  • HC123

    Had you actually listened and comprehended Mr. Steele’s interview (I know, so hard, so many big words) you would understand that your link supports some of Steele’s statements perfectly.

  • IndieDogg

    And the fact that you obviously don’t like what he says doesn’t make it false (or invalid).

    Mr. Steele has come to certain conclusions based on a lifetime of observation and study of racial issues. They are what is called “informed” opinions.

    If we’re to judge the quality of the conclusion only by the quality of the data and/or background and experience of the holder of the opinion, perhaps you should include, along with your “rear-end” and “make up anything” allegations, a copy of your resume (along with any polls or previous studies you have performed, or publications on the subject that we might read) so that we might better evaluate your opinions.

  • Diana L. C.

    LisaB

    Wow! Thanks so much for posting this video. I listened to the entire video. Steele’s analysis rings so true to what I felt during the entire primary and GE.

    I wish the interview could have mentioned just a little about how O was able to pretend to let whites off the hook and then allow his minions to paint the Clintons as racist.

    But otherwise, an excellent post. On the last note of the interview. I gave the one sentence that would cover O’s presidency at the same time in my mind the same sentence as Steele gave when he predicted his sentence for O.

    I’ve often thought that he will continue a little longer as the “apple” of the MSM’s and liberal’s eyes as proof of their lack of racial guilt and as the hero of the masses who have been left out. But, in the end, they will all have to acknowledge that he is not an exceptional leader and doesn’t really have any moral authority except, to paraphrase Steele, what comes from the the melanin in his skin.

    And I hope to live long enought to see an accurate biography written of this man so the entire world knows what “that man” was really made of.

    I do feel a littl sorry for the GOP. They ARE getting their just desserts in my mind for electing Nixon, Reagan, Daddy Bush, and Baby Bush. But we DO NEED some more conservative, traditional, highly ethical voices coming from the opposition to the Dimocratic (purposely misspelled) Party.

    Right now, I agree: Shelby Steele to challenge O in the next election.

  • leo

    thank you for this video on Shelby Steele. I have heard him before on the Bill Moyer Journal talk show. I found him thought provoking then and now. Obama certainly played the “race card.” He didn’t get my vote. I campaigned for Hillary Clinton; she would have been the legitimate president and when her own party “selected the one,” I voted for McCain/Palin.

  • arran

    Electing a president is not about identity politics, or white guilt, or black racism (95% of blacks voted for 0bama), or having your children tell you whom to vote for.

    It’s electing someone who can give people hope in the direst times* that she has the intelligence, experience, and work-force to bring them out of a crisis.

    *My region has an unemployment rate of 11.4% (the state’s is 10.8%) and our city has witnessed a rise in attempted suicides.

    Electing a president isn’t child’s play.

  • TeakWoodKite

    CamdenRave, Cultural observations, at times resonate across racial lines.

    White people voted out of guilt in the majority. I knows this because I was exposed to it first hand. It was evident in the exchanges I had with others I know who support BO. It was also a truth that no matter how much I sought to keep the “debate” focused on BO’s lack of experience and remedial qualifications, it was inevitably twisted into me being a racist because I would not vote for a “black man”. I don’t give a shit what color a person is, but there it was and is. The “anyone but Bush” has been laid to rest a long time ago, as Hillary was left twisting in the breeze by the DNC and hands down more qualified and with a “scary smart” experience level a much better leader for this country.
    As the conversation went south, (so to speak) and I was called a racist, my only response was and is to remind people they voted for a person who KNEW people in his state senate district where freezing their assess off and did nothing about it. The typical response was that BO was not responsible for Rezkos BS. So be it. It still will not release him from his close association with Rezko and his utter failure to represent his constituency while a state senator. His pastor of twenty years can blame it on the “jews” all he wants because in the end he knows BO and him are from the same cesspool and he knows well how expeiediency trumps long term relationships…IN fact BO DOES share many of rev. Wright’s point of views.

    So as to agreeing with someone “not making it true”…it is more a collective observation of many peoples’ first hand experiences that define a cultural observation.

    BO is an immoral unethical human being. That is a factual statement. And he carries very little “moral authority” into the office of the Presidency. That is and will be a major stumbling block for the US. TOTUS can not help him.

  • TeakWoodKite

    CamdenRave, nothing personal but..Are you reading impaired?
    NoQuarter is not even mentioned.

    It is a two page article by Paul Campos a professor of law at the University of Colorado at Boulder, who also was a columnist for the Rocky Mountain News. Sadly now gone.

    It is also suggested that he was a go between by Ward Churchill’s attorney in his wrongful termination suit passing UC internal info to the Rocky Mountain News.

  • TeakWoodKite

    That is why children should not vote?

  • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

    If Obama had an executive resume to match Sotomayor’s legal resume, I’d have voted for him in a heartbeat. In that case, being ‘the first’ would be a huge plus, but not the biggest reason–just as with Hillary.

    I kept asking my black friends, sell me on this guy. I’ll tell you what Hillary has done, you tell me what Obama has done. Silence. After time, my black friends didn’t want to argue anymore. One guy almost started to cry. I just let it alone after that.

    Racial pride is one thing. But I realized there was a much deeper pain that Obama was manipulating. I had too many real sources of racial pride–my parents, Dr. King, Muhammad Ali, Malcolm X, African art, jazz, our victory over Jim Crow. I didn’t need some politician to make me proud. And that’s all Obama is — a politician, no better than all the rest.

  • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

    Hopefully the no-show voters will get off their rear ends, vote, and cancel out the ACORN effect. No-shows were every bit as responsible for letting Obama in as the Obots.

    That’s what I’m hoping anyway.

    Thanks for the post, LisaB–very interesting.

  • Patience

    In response to CamdenRave, while the most recent Rasmussen poll (the most accurate pollster of the 2008 election) cites a 56% approval rating for the POTUS, Republicans are now trusted more than Democrats when it comes to handling the economy (45% to 39%), which polls as the most important issue to respondents. As well, 45% think the rest of the stimulus spending should be cancelled, 36% disagree and 20% are undecided. Plus, 59% say the country’s headed in the wrong direction as opposed to 36% who disagree. Republicans and Democrats are now tied on generic ballots.

    What can account for the disparity? Is it possible that while people feel free to candidly express their displeasure about issues and direction, they may be reluctant to admit they don’t like like the POTUS for fear of being labeled racist?

  • SN in MN

    Nailed it!

  • Park Slope Pubby

    At what point will people realize that we have elected a Marxist? The liberals (white and black) won’t care. Nothng will change their love. I don’t know about the rest of the country. I hope and pray (literally) that the old fashioned America still exists, the America for which millions have died in our wars. But most people may be so brainwashed that they accept the Marxist, and their own coming disenfranchiasement.

  • JozefAL

    And exactly FOR whom are we supposed to vote in these elections? I’m certainly not going to vote for any GOPer who appears to be taking his “marching orders” from Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich.
    If it comes down to a choice between an Obama minion and a Rush-regurgitating GOPer, I’m afraid I’ll stick with the Obama minion.
    Frankly, arran, you’re evidence of why our political situation is in such shitty condition–you advocate voting AGAINST someone rather than voting FOR someone. Find a party that most closely represents you and your values and SUPPORT that party and its candidates, rather than worrying that you’re “wasting” your vote.

  • TeakWoodKite

    blockquote> Republicans are now trusted more than Democrats when it comes to handling the economy (45% to 39%),

    Don’t know about any other independents in the crowd, but after 8 years of
    bmushroom econ and the dems doing the same, this number drives me crazy.

    Really? Trust who? The national debt created by both of parties and the their overlords they are beholden to is never ending. Sorry, if the last election proved anything it was not to trust if there was no way to verify it. Obama loves Reagan…

    Patience, great points. At this point I could give a )*&^ if people are going to call me racist for opposing BO’s BS. I am not the only human this has happen too and it makes me very sad as a human to see and hear it.
    I don’t care anymore

    cos I remember all the times I tried so hard
    And you laughed in my face cos you held all the cards.
    I dont care anymore.
    And I really aint bothered what you think of me
    cos all I want of you is just a let me be.
    I dont care anymore dyou hear? I dont care no more


    (you as in third person, the people who call me these things.)
    Call me what you will, rip my bumperstickers of my car that you disagree with, it all proves my point, I am not falling for BO’s line of crap.

  • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

    This post reminds me of Janeane Garafolo’s rant about tea party protesters all being ‘racist’. She deliberately made a completely personal projection instead of doing a fair assessment of the 600,000 people who participated.

  • Palm Tree

    She deliberately made a completely personal projection

    I couldn’t agree more SNK. And this is the sickness of the left: repressed racism and the most foul misogyny.

  • rightagain

    Dawnelle, I’m with you, baby. Seems like our splinter group in the Democratic Underground is alive and well. What a long journey. Shelby Steele is right on. He shared much of this on Bill Moyer’s Journal back during the primary. May we never forget the DNC’s meeting last summer.

  • lorac

    Although this approach can lead a party to take you for granted, and never clean up its act. They will talk the talk, but never walk the walk. They figure, where else can you go? I think that a lot of people learned that this last election season (women, gays, anti-war people, etc). We were all played. If we keep voting for the people supposedly closest to our values, we’ll become part of our own problem.

    Not that this solves the conundrum. But it’s also something to consider in trying to figure out what to do.

  • trixta

    I believe Acorn and their third Party in the NY state legislature were just defeated, after two Dems crossed the isle to work with the Repubs!

  • Ellen D

    I agree. Thank you LisaB. It explains why the Brits immediately said that this was all about Americans feeling good about themselves.
    It also explains why I a Canadian/American just couldn’t get into this whole expiation vote thing. I was completely baffled at this mass hallucination.

  • Ellen D

    All you can do is vote the best person regardless of party and hope for the best.

  • trixta

    F@#$%ck the two Parties, JozefAl! Never again will I vote strictly along Party and ideological lines. Never will I vote for UhBama or any of his supporters in government. The number of Independant and unafilliated voters is growing who refuse to be manipulated by the two-Party system.

  • Ellen D

    I was interested in his claim that young people are more concerned about race.
    Is it my imagination, but now that Obama and Michelle are being touted as the epitome of cool, are we seeing more black commercials and black content? Far more than their percentage in the population warrants?

    If this is mainly current fashion, then fashion always changes.

  • trixta

    Speaking of Tea Parties … aren’t there more in the works for July 4th?

  • NoBamaNoWay

    correct; some times you HAVE TO vote against somebody.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I’ve commented on this here before, but I have witnessed a group of white liberal guys all suddenly having black women on their arms, the perfect PC “accessory.”

  • arran

    You assume a lot, JozefAL. I’ve never advocated voting against a candidate until 0bama. I also was a life-long, a yeller dog dem until the 2008 primary.

    You have no grounds to lecture me as I vote, pay *all* my taxes, and know the issues.

    So don’t mess with me.

  • politicalidentitycrisis

    If we had President H. R. Clinton or John S. McCain as President right now we would not have a Government/union owned GM and GM/Chrysler dealerships closed for political purposes. We would not look weak around the world because no one would be trash talking this country. We would not be piling debt, debt and more debt on our chldren and grandchildren. We would be seeing new jobs. We would actually have a plan for many of the things Obama just talks about, but doesn’t know how to implement. When people say McCain and Clinton are worlds apart, why would you have voted McCain over Obama? I tell them that McCain and Clinton are very similar in leadership abilities and both have great character and good judgment and love of this country and Obama has none of those things I look for in a leader.

    Dang! We are sure in a mess!

  • Palm Tree

    are we seeing more black commercials and black content? Far more than their percentage in the population warrants?

    One can’t help but also notice, that there is nearly always present in these commercials the “stupid White guy” character – it’s become cliche.

  • wbboei

    It is ironic that African Americans would turn their backs on Hillary after she and her husband worked hard for their welfare throughout their careers. It is doubly ironic that they put all their hopes and dreams in a man who cares only for himself but happens to be half black. I hope the symbolism makes them happy but it will not put food on the table. Shame on those who bought into the Obama claim that the Clintons were racists. Clyburn can go to hell.

  • http://! stodgie

    yes, we are seeing that. on cnn, it is there constantly. i believe many of the aa commentators have lost their way in that they also support obama in my view due to race no matter how bad he is. i recall barry in dc was elected again by the aa voters even after his legal problems. the same thing happned in the primaries. so who is the racist now?

  • http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/12/31/shelby-steele-on-race-and-obama-as-president-obama-golf-addict-and-a-couple-of-polls/ Shelby Steele on race and Obama as President : NO QUARTER

    [...] Obama as a Cultural Leader Rather than a Political One Excellent video (37 minutes, but well worth your time) interview with Steele. [...]

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