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I have a question about racism [Update note at end]

Why is it racism if a majority of whites decide to vote for the white candidate and they tell exit pollsters they’d never vote for Obama, and a few of them tell the pollsters that racism is a factor?

And why is it not regarded by the pundits as racism if a huge majority (80%+) of blacks vote for the black candidate, simply because he is black?

Why do the pundits regard the huge black vote sympathetically? As if they are OWED the chance to vote for a black candidate simply because he’s black?

I’m faced with the prospect of being labeled a racist because I am a WHITE female who refuses to vote for Barack Obama, now or ever.

I am to be labeled a racist, even though I am (only theoretically, apparently) OWED the chance to vote for the first time for a female candidate who happens to be white?

Just asking.

UPDATE: I have hundreds of reasons why I choose to vote for Hillary Clinton and not Barack Obama, and you’re all well aware of many of those reasons. Those factors are assumed in this post.

Heck, if someone like Michael Nutter (black Philadelphia mayor) — with a few more years of electoral experience — were running, I’d work my ass off for him, no matter his color, because in him I see the qualities needed in a president.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    …because as a black person you are owed Everything.
    …however, as a woman, you are owed Nothing.

    That is why you can be called a c*nt but you don’t dare call Barky Obama a Bamboozler, which he is. Seems fair.

    In fact, Louis Farrakhan said White People! You owe us the whole country!

    I would think we actually DO owe the whole country to Native Americans, since we took it from them without their permiision, but that’s another story altogether.

    • cc

      good observation uppity…women are owed nothing. it’s unfair, but very true for many people.

      susan, all I can say is that while it’s wrong that obamatots and the msm label hillary supporters racists, we clinton voters don’t have to care what they say. I simply have let go of the white guilt complex after seeing the race baiting shanannigans played by Obama. I don’t care what they say any more. I know, we all know what’s in our hearts. also the questions asked in exit polls are quite vague. the racism voters referred to could easily be Obama’s racist history in attending a black supremacist church for 20 years, that could be the race factor of why they voted against him.

      • workingclass artist

        Racism. n. 1. a belief that one’s own race is superior. 2. a policy or practice that is based on racism. Random House Dictionary

        Chauvinism. n. 1. a zealous, agressive patriotism. 2. biased devotion to any group, attitude, or cause. Random House Dictionary

        Bigot. n. a person who is extremely intolerant to another’s creed, belief, or opinion. Random House Dictionary

        sexism. n. descrimination, esp. against women, base on sex. Rndom House Dictionary.

        partisan. n. 1. an adherent or supporter of a person or cause, etc. 2. a member of a guerrilla band fighting an occupying army. Random House Dictionary

        Truth is Susan….More often than not people toss around words ithout a clue as to their actual meaning….GOOD POST….HYPOCRISY REIGNS ETERNAL….YOU CALL ATTENTION TO THE DOUBLE STANDARD…

      • Helen McCombs

        Hello I am an Africian Americian and I am for one mad as hell because of Barack Obama and his ignorgance I stand the risk of whites ignoring real racism. So in the interest of racial harmony and unneccessary white guilt. I will explain racism so that the MSM and the Obama campaign one that is run by white men. A. IT IS NOT RACIST TO DISAGREE WITH AN AFRICIAN AMERICIAN IT IS JUST DISAGREEING WITH AN AFRICIAN AMERICIAN. B. BILL CLINTON WASN’T RACIST WHEN HE SAID YOUR OPPOSITION TO THE WAR WAS A FAIRY TALE. THIS WAS DISAGRING WITH YOU. C. THERE WERE RACISM IN THIS RACE. SENATOR OBAMA SAID THAT POOR WHITES WERE IGNORGANT AND NOT NECESSARY FOR A GENERAL ELECTION. I FOUND THIS OFFENSIVE AS AN AFRICIAN AMERICIAN. RACISM IS WRONG NO MATTER THE RACE OF THE PERSON SPOUTING IT. SO TO WHITE PEOPLE YOU ARE NOT RACIST FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF HILLARY. OBAMA IS THE RACIST.
        HELEN FROM PITTSBURGH

        • Susaninbosque

          Helen, superb statement. I appreciate your insight.

          Susan, this is another Susan who agrees with you perfectly and I am glad you got it into such a solid form.

          There is stuff jumpin’ in the Chicago US Atty’s office this afternoon – I could not find anything on the press conference but there are folks in jail and indictments – some of this stuff looks like it could be in the outer orbit of Rezko and Obama’s actions. And for some reason, O is in a terrible hurry… really a politcally unrealistic hurry, politcally dumb hurry. Of course, he is lying about so many things that it is hard to say what might make him feel furitive, but there’s a look the last few days in his actions that says something like: don’t think I want to stand too far off of the side of the road cause something could run right over me and I see it in the distance and you guys don’t.

          If anybody knows anything….

        • http://motorcityliberalblogspot.com Johnny C.

          According to Ed Schultz every white person in West Virginia, PA and KY that didn’t vote for Obama are either racist or they’re just plain dumb. Geez I guess that’s straight talk from the “Heartland” he slam those who he claimed his show was intended for because they didn’t sip the kool aid out of the Obama 08 punch bowl. I notice a trend among the Obama supporters on their blogs and in the so called progressive media, since they don’t want to talk about his weakness they take a easy way out and called people racist or blame the media.

          Being a black dude I think the 90% of black people voting for Obama is proving a nasty stereotype to the real racists in this country, we don’t give a rat ass about issues all we care about the color of the guy’s skin. And I tell black Obama supporters look at the dude’s record and forget the color. The guy doesn’t want to be seen with us, sure he wants us to vote for him. But other then that speech to cover his own ass when the Rev. Wright scandal broke out, when has he spoke about race? He didn’t do it for the Jena Six, He didn’t do it for Katrina he didn’t do anything when Harold Ford got slimed with an racist ad from the RNC and Barack didn’t even bother to show up in Memphis to honor the anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr assassination. While Hillary went to attend and the fact John McCain went knowing he has no chance of getting the black vote should make those blacks who’s voting for Obama based on race to think if McCain a man who knows he has no chance of getting more then 2% of the black vote took time to speak why couldn’t Barack? He avoids issues that’s important to black people yet blacks are voting for him 80 to 90% and it makes me sick when people like Al Sharpton when they jumped on the Obama bandwagon when Obama does all he can to not be seen with them.

        • Fred C. Dobbs

          >>> IT IS NOT RACIST TO DISAGREE WITH AN AFRICIAN AMERICIAN IT IS JUST DISAGREEING WITH AN AFRICIAN AMERICIAN

          Oh, Helen…you HONKIE!!!

        • AXT

          Thank you Helen. I am white and I am very sympathetic to the causes of racial equality and justice. I do not take kindly to the smears of “racism” against anyone who is critical of Mr. Obama. He is running for public office and his record and connections are fair game.

      • beebop

        Initially it bothered me. Then I really stood back and got freaked out that “they” were right and what happened was it negatively impacted all of the terrific relationships I have every day with Africans Americans. So now, I have just decided to ignore it. It’s kind of like in elementary school when kids called chubby people “fatty,” it is just name calling. They don’t see anything wrong with mysogony … so we’re not speaking the same language.

      • Northwest rain

        That they think we (women) are racists — that is THEIR problem. They OWN that stereotype.

        If I vote for snObama based on trying to make “them” like me or accept me — they will still see me as an older white woman and still classify me as racist. THIS is what snObama has done to America. AND for this he can never be forgiven.

        I also believe that snObama & Axelrod are trying to frame this so that we will vote on guilt. WELL as a woman I have nothing to be guilty about. I have dealt with prejudice and rejection SIMPLY because I am female all my life.

        ALL the insults that snObama slings at Hillary are being flung at women. Some of us are aware enough to understand that snObama intensely dislikes women, especially older women.

        This is psychological warfare — and snObama trained his caucus captains to use the garbage in the caucus. These people were trained to HATE — they were trained to agitate and make wounds where none existed.

        In WA state we had a female run for Governor –Craswell. She lost overwhelmingly — not because she was a women but because she was a right wing NUT!

        • sandrawade

          why did Gregoire endorse BO? I purposely didn’t attend an event where she was speaker because of that endorsement. Why’d she do it? Because of the crooked caucuses?

    • typical.white.person

      …because as a black person you are owed Everything.

      It’s the “Michelle Obama Sense of Entitlement” syndrome

      • sara

        I am a white woman. And I’ll admit I am an Obama supporter at this point in the game (though I am a long-time, stubborn Edwards supporter).

        The reason you can call it racist when whites won’t vote for a man because he’s black and not the other way around is because whites hold a position of systematic power and entitlement in our country. Same as why it’s sexist for a man not to vote for a woman because of her womanhood and not the way around; men have systematic power and entitlement in our country.

        You can not like it, but asserting that a black man or woman (or any “minority” for that matter; Chicano, gay, disabled, etc.) experiences a sense of entitlement seems to be a dangerous mis-characterization of what’s actually happening here. Blacks do not have any rights to entitlement in this country, and nor do women. That’s why this election is ground-breaking and amazing: The majority don’t want the white guy to win.

        • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

          Does anyone see a pattern here? The Obamabutts have given up (at least temporarily) on (1) but, but, remember the Supreme Court, and (2) but, but, Hillary wants you to vote for Obama so if you don’t, you don’t really support Hillary.

          The theme today is: but, but you don’t want anyone to think you’re racist, do you?

          And Sara, one of the “nice” trolls, is here to tell us that only whites can be racist. I will give you this, Sara, since you Obamabutts like to call yourselves the creative class, that is a very creative distinction; but reality rules at NoQuarter. Scroll back up to the comment by workingclassartist, and you will see that nowhere in the definition of racism is it limited as you try to argue. Of course, dictionary definitions are not recognized by those mesmerized by the wonderfulness of The One, so you will no doubt persist in your little fantasy.

          My theme for the day is: won’t your sexist, ageist candidate be embarrassed when he gets his butt kicked by either a “girl” or an old fart?

          • http://deleted AnninCa

            The bloggers are so far behind the real story.

            Who cares.

            They have been left in the dust on this story.

          • so saddened

            sara isn’t really being creative – we’ve since this bs argument before. they teach it at some colleges (probably those indoctrinated by the ayers bunch).

            sara’s just being stupid.

            • so saddened

              correction – seen, not since.

            • http://penitent-thief.blogspot.com/ LBJ’s Love Child

              sara isn’t really being creative – we’ve since this bs argument before. they teach it at some colleges (probably those indoctrinated by the ayers bunch).

              Yep. Ran into a nest of Obamatards this weekend at a baby shower who were LAUGHING about what a racist Hillary was. I confronted them with the 90% AA for Obama fact, voting strickly for color. “Oh, that’s not racist” said one recent college grad, “only White People can be racist.”

              He might as well have sung “Tomorrow Belongs To Me”.

              • http://penitent-thief.blogspot.com/ LBJ’s Love Child

                – strictly –

              • cc

                I sincerely pray these naive, arrogant upstarts crash and burn in total public humiliation!

        • workingclass artist

          Sara….Some folks that are not voting for him because he’s Black may see it as against their own interests if Obama has given them the impression that he favors AA’s over whites…if so they would be voting for the interests of their group which would not necessarily be racist but in reaction to racism they see in Obama…

        • Christine

          I’m a black woman, and I do not agree with your position. Anytime over 90% of any group votes in unison it is skeptical. African Americans are supporting Obama by over 90% and this is not good. It shows that we (generally speaking) are not concerned about the issues–just race. All my friends are voting for Obama because he is Black–and they proudly admit this. The media has used this to threaten the super delegates to abandon their true role by insinuating that “Blacks will riot if you take this away from them”–Which is an insult to the minds of African Americans whether we realize this or not. The Black vote is perceived as a “vote of pride”, while the white vote is labeled as a “vote of racism”. Worse yet, it is portrayed by the media as the poor, uneducated, low class, racist vote. IF I was White, I would be highly insulted by such characterization! The fact is that A.A’s make up about 12-14% of the population and Whites make up about 70%. So why is the media and the Obama camp minimizing and insulting this very crucial vote?

          • Helen McCombs

            I agree you see we Africian Americian Clinton supporters had to endure hell because of black Obama supportors some of whom told me. Sister it is time we get the White House. I kept saying that he isnt ready yet let him come in second place and get some experience but no they werent hearing that. So the reality we are going to not have either. Such a shame I did not vote Racist I chose who I thought would be the best president and that would be Senator Hillary Clinton.
            Helen from Pittsburgh

            • Christine

              Hey Helen,
              I’m from Pittsburgh too! My husband and I are both from PGH. We live in Atlanta. All our family is in PGH. OMAGOD! They are sooo brainwashed when it comes to Obama! Yet, when you ask them about his thin resume–they have no comments. The are radically backing this guy whom they do not know. They claim, “He voted against the war!” I stated, “He wasn’t even in the senate at the time. He merely gave an opposing speech, but he never had too go on the record and risk his political career by casting an unpopular vote!” They are indeed kool-aid drinkers!

              • http://www.illusionofjoy.net Seth Warren

                Just how many Pittsburgh people are on here? Just curious, seeing as how I’m one too. :)

          • http://deleted AnninCa

            True stuff…….it’s a racial divide in that sense.

            But I still do not sense true rancour here.

            Am I wrong?

            I sense it’s really about the first woman versus te first AA person.

            Now, there’s a set up for conflict! LOL*

            But I personally wouldn’t mind if the AA
            “beat out” the woman.

            That’s not my gig, anyway.

            What do you think?

          • blkmn(real) HRC supporter

            I have NEVER posted a comment. I just HAD the said agree you 100%!!!!!! I am Black male in Los Angeles(da hood) so in understand racism. I have NOT seen one form of racism by the Clintons. I am DISAPPOINTED in my race, that we would get behind Obama(90%+) just because is Black. Because you CAN’T tell me that’s NOT the reason. I can’t get 9 out of 10 of my Family to AGREE with me. lol!!!!! It make us look, if you give a Black we will jump on the bandwagon. I’m 104% PROUD to a Black, but a FOLLOWER. If you give me 2 candidate that are “EQUALLY” qualified, one Black the other White(etc.), of course I would vote the Black(NOT Obama) candidate. I will “NEVER” vote for Obama. Hillary 08 not VP. or 2012, KEEP FIGHTIN!!!!!!!

          • blkmn(real) HRC supporter

            I have NEVER posted a comment. I just HAD the said agree you 100%!!!!!! I am Black male in Los Angeles(da hood) so in understand racism. I have NOT seen one form of racism by the Clintons. I am DISAPPOINTED in my race, that we would get behind Obama(90%+) just because his is a Black. Because you CAN’T tell me that’s NOT the reason. I can’t get 9 out of 10 of my Family to AGREE with me. lol!!!!! It make us look as, if you give us a Black we will jump on the bandwagon. I’m 104% PROUD to be Black, but I’m NOT a FOLLOWER. If you give me 2 candidate that are “EQUALLY” qualified, one Black the other a White(Latino,etc.), of course I would vote for the Black(NOT Obama) candidate. What does he stand for, besides HOPE(fake) and CHANGE(fake)??? I will “NEVER” vote for Obama. Hillary 08 not VP. or 2012(only IF 2nd term), KEEP FIGHTIN!!!!!!! P.S. Thanks NQ, Larry, SusanPc, TM!!!!!!!!!

            • blkmn(real) HRC supporter

              OOPS!!!!!!! My FIRST time!!!!!!!

        • american sawbuck

          Wrong wrong wrong the majority of democrats want the WHITE woman to win…go away bambi supporter

        • Helen McCombs

          why are you on this site. There are other places for people like you to blog on. We do not have that privilage.
          Helen from Pittsburgh Will not vote Obama period in 08. Obama is a racist.
          Helen from Pittsburgh and just for the record I want the white guy if Hillary is not the nominee.

          • blkmn(real) HRC supporter

            Me TOO!!!!!

        • Urban Hillbilly

          That’s an academic theory who’s time has come and gone.

        • mimi

          Sara,

          I’m going to take your comments on! You are actually right. But here’s the rub:

          This is an election, we are voters. The glue that holds democracy together is the right it bestows upon its citizenry: the power of their individual vote.

          When you bring the issue of race into it, you are in fact telling a voter that they don’t have the right to choose and if they choose a white candidate, then it’s solely based on race and racism.

          Let me clarify my position even further by letting you know that I’m an AA Hlllary supporter. So my reasons are based on – what? Certainly not racism. Now my fellow AAs will tell you that I support Hillary because I’m an ‘Uncle Tom’. Now blacks may not be able to be called racists based on your interpetation of the societal hierarchy, but blacks certainly can be labeled bigots. And this election has exposed AA bigotry not only against whites, but against their own.

          None of this has any place in an election. And it is Obama who brought it front and center as a campaign strategy. He’s following the Harold Washington Chicago AA playbook of dirty politics by using race to your advantage.

          I’m not supporting Obama because of the following reasons:

          Universal Healthcare
          Inexperience especially with regard to foreign policy
          the economy
          misogyny from his campaign
          exploiting racism to his advantage thereby undermining the seriousness of racism and institutional racism in American society
          unease about his many ties
          his association with Rezko who was a slumlord and let AAs freeze during the winter in rat infested tenements, which he abandoned
          Obama’s thin and padded resume
          his lack of command of the issues without a script

          I’m going to stop here. I could go on, but I think you see I have reasons and notice because I’m an AA I didn’t mention Wright. But I will say this, if Hillary can be proven with a video tape to have a 20+ mentor/relationship with a minster making disparaging comments about black people in the way Wright did about whites, I would drop her like a lead balloon.

          This is an election. Let’s be honest here, there were always going to be a certain amount of whites who would never vote for Obama because of racism. Just ask Harold Ford of Tennessee. But it’s a bit of an insult to say that people who were open to his candidacy but now are not because of Wright and many of the reasons I stated above are all card-carrying KKK racists. It’s also a very clever bullying tactic used for the most insidious reason: to get elected. The Obama campaign is in effect saying to ALL white people that if you don’t vote for me, then you are a racist. And that would include people who marched for civil rights, who are married to AAs with biracial children, who have stood with the AA community on issues like Affirmative Action, police brutality, etc.

          This is an election, the crown jewel of a democracy. You don’t tell people that they have no right to choose.

          This reminds me of the African American response to the OJ verdict. Applause. There was something very distasteful about the callousness of that very public display. It showed no regard for the victims and their families. As if they alone were responsible for our collective pain at the hands of racism when in reality OJ going free could in no way come close to tipping the scale towards repairing the damage done to blacks. History has not been fair to us without a doubt.

          And Obama seems perfectly content, however, to exploit this unfairness.

          • http://deleted AnninCa

            Mimi……I must take time to thank you for your posts. I feel so much better when I read you.

            Even though I am sure of my principles, it’s tough going when so many people are saying otherwise.

            I appreciate your voice alot.

            I would just feel horrible if I decided that I was, in fact, racist.

            That would so devastate my own core ideas.

            I have no doubt that I’m NOT super-sophisticated about AA issues. I’m also not gay or lesbian, so I have no doubt that I’m a dummie sometimes with their issues. I’m not Latino, so I’ve learned. I’m not always tuned in.

            But I will always believe that an open mind and willingness is the key.

            I just can’t picture a time where that doesn’t carry a bit of clout.

            Quick story. I mentored a lovely Latina. She was mad at her mom. Boxed in by cultural expectations that she nip her dreams for the family. Boy, I jumped on that bandwagon. Then, slowly I realized, I’m totally putting her into conflict with the Latino culture here.

            I slowly backed off. Havning learned.

            My “white” culture values don’t always work for others. I needed to learn that. I needed to learn how to say, “What do YOU think?”

            I am glad for that near failure. It taught me.

            Don’t decide for others what is best for them.

            No matter how “logical” it looks.

            Let people be people.

        • Northwest rain

          SARA — you are an idiot.

          You have bought into the B.S.

          There is no hope for people like you.

          Now go away and go to HELL.

          TROLL!

          Women like you are my enemies — YOUR kind I HATE.

        • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

          Sara, I have to say that you’re one of the first Obama supporters I’ve encountered on this site who writes as if you’re an intelligent grown-up. So, even though I disagree with your opinion, I respect your right to express it.

        • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

          The reason you can call it racist when whites won’t vote for a man because he’s black and not the other way around is because whites hold a position of systematic power and entitlement in our country. Same as why it’s sexist for a man not to vote for a woman because of her womanhood and not the way around; men have systematic power and entitlement in our country.

          What your sociology teacher didn’t teach you is what some redneck hillbilly learned at 5 years-old — two wrongs don’t make a right.

          No matter how much lipstick you put on that “symbolic racism” pig, it’s still a pig, regardless of gender or race.

    • DENDY

      Why isn’t anybody covering this???????

      http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf
      http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

      Obama’s Secret Socialist Connections

      IT”S JUST CRAZY!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvaOkxbM9dY Roy

      I agree with your post completely! Except that I am a Black Male.

      Here’s something you might find interesting:

      1). In the Black Harlem, NY voting district Sen. BO lost.
      2). In Mass. the most liberal state in the republic, Sen. BO lost.

      And in each case it was not the lack of knowing him, but a knowlege of him and his style of rhetoric that has produce division that the republicans could only dream of, (i.e. Gov. Daval Patrick). The same core team that got Gov. Daval Patrick elected, is Sen. BO’s core advisers.

      Just have a look and listen to:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvaOkxbM9dY

      This is a new generation of black political speak, that most white America is not familiar with. However, anyone who had unbridled exposure to the “black liberation message” of the 1960′s, all of this is very familiar, as it is too me.

      I rejected then and I reject it now.

      P.S. Attn Sen. OB supporters there’s a “COOL-AID STAND” @ Hollywood & Vine, be there. Open 24/7.

    • Ren Vs Stimpy

      IF AN UNQUALIFIED BLACK GUY GETS TO BE PRESIDENT DOES THAT MEAN SHORT WHITE GUY’S GET TO PLAY IN THE NBA?

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      ……..(‘(…´…´…. ¯~/’…’)
      ………\……………..’…../
      ……….”…\………. _.·´
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      BAD FINGER DEMOCRATS

      Obama/Obama ’08
      “Because the Messiah don’t run with mates”

      • so saddened

        how ’bout short white women?

        • Fred C. Dobbs

          Or short, albino Zoroastrians?

          • workingclass artist

            Fred…your comedic commentary endangers my keyboard…spewing coffee as I chuckle and what not….chuckle….

    • oaktown

      I’m black and I don’t think I’m owed everything. The only reason why the race card is being thrown down so much is because it’s known that no one wants to be thought of as racist. Because of the history of racism and oppression in this country, liberal whites feel a lot of guilt and will go out of their way to prove how un racist they are–even if it means voting for a candidate they know is unqualified.

      The funny part of this is that I live in the Bay Area surrounded by liberal white Obamabots who love Obama but would not give a black person a job. On the other hand, I have lived in Ohio and knew some so-called “rednecks” who would take the shirt off their backs to help anyone-even a black person.

      I don’t think people who don’t like Obama are racist because I don’t like him either. He (like most uber liberals) hates America (evidenced by the company he keeps) is arrogant, sounds like a college professor lecturing every time he talks, and has a mean evil wife. Whenever he is on tv, I change the channels, even when he gave his so-called great speech on race. How dare he lecture about race when he wasn’t even raised in the black community to have first hand knowledge.

      I do think Hillary has been shafted by the media. What difference does it make if she wears a pantsuit or a bikini–it doesn’t have anything to do with her ability. You notice they never talk about what the men are wearing or how their hair looks.

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott

    You’re a racist, I’m a racist, wouldn’t you like to be a racist too.

    It’s becoming more and more ridiculous every day.

    • Retired

      Only if I can drink Dr. Pepper…

  • TimRussertIsATwit!!!

    Because it helps Obama be the Nominee so McCain can win. Was always the GOP plan.

    • Northwest rain

      BINGO!

    • dogfish

      Yes, If Obama is the nominee I truly see McCain/CWTodd’08 being the winning ticket. I will probably vote for this winning ticket. Yes, it has been in motion for a while and the MSM just waiting for Obama/DNC to kick Hillary’s ass, which includes millions of women, on June 3rd. There is noway Obama can beat McCain/CWTodd in the general election but, I must say Hillary has a chance at winning against this ticket. The DNC made its own bed and I just don’t see how they really messed this election up by choosing the weaker candidate, Obama.

  • Seymour Glass

    80%?

    try 92%

    its identity politics at its core and I am disgusted that Obama supporters call anyone a “racist” who points tghis out.

    F them to hades!

    Ive seen them do that to you many times at myDD. Its such a shame that Jerome has let fanboy Singer let the Kossack-Obama Hillary haters to run amuck there.

    This election is going just where I predicted ot would – to Denver.

    SCREW THE CLINTON HATERS -NO QUARTER!

    • Lute

      MSM is a major culprit in pushing the racial aspect of this election. When the primary narrowed to Clinton and Obama, every second word out of Wolf Blitzer’s mouth was Race. Everything. Race, race, race, race.
      Obviously he was given this order, and I couldn’t help wonder why AOL TimeWarner was out to make problems where there were none.
      Maybe they thought it would help Barky?

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Ferraro is right. Sexism is accepted today. Even the Women Count Too Pac is being dismissed as nothing more than emotionalism over being disappointed.

    “Reverse” racism is not an accepted idea yet, obviously.

    Buchanan tried to argue this point this past week. He kept saying about the supposed gaffe that Hillary made calling people “white” working class that the TV reports had been discussing the very same issue non-stop. AP used the same exact words. Obama’s campaign did the same.

    Yet, when she did, it’s a gaffe?

    That is the danger that is coming to fruition of Obama playing the race card. He has triggered off a legitimate backlash.

    Polls show (non-political polls) that racism is not the biggest issue today. The key? People aren’t concerned when their children marry outside of their race. That is the test of cultural change. It’s just more accepted now.

    The same challenges exist for minorities and women in terms of the glass ceiling. We really are in this together, but the last decade has shown the path to solutions. Just go start your own dang company and outcompete the jerks.

    Obama is regressive. Not progressive.

    He’s turned the tide backward to the 60s. No surprise. We now see the roots of this.

    Too bad. The first AA candidate has no real sense or vision. There are so many more who do and I bet they are seething at this debacle.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      It wasn’t a gaffe. It was a Known Statistic. Just like the percentage of blacks voting for Obama is a Known Statistic.

      Frankly I love when they pull the Race Card over everything. It makes more voters every day roll their eyes. They are sick of hearing about it for every trivial thing. It’s a Boy Who Cried Wolf thing now. Dead for the GE.

    • Lute

      If you had heard the women on Anderson Cooper’s panel last night, you would know why gender bias persists.
      These two cruds were saying that Clinton was deluded in her comment about sexism in this primary.
      (This being CNN, there was no one on the side of Clinton on the panel).
      It seems whenever the media wants to screw over a woman, they’ll trot out one of these apes (or Auntie Toms), to undercut the problem.
      Eventually, these apes are discareded for younger apes. The median age for the male panelists looked to be 60. The women, 38.
      Enjoy your short careers, bimbos. This is the world you are creating for yourselves.

      • cows4us

        So true – the worse is Rachel Maddow. Her hatred for Clinton runs so deep she’s willing to allow anyone to bash Hillary based on gender, even deny sexism. She and Randi Rhoades try to be “one of the boys” not realizing the boys will let you in now to try to mitigate the other side’s argument, but will gladly discard you and even demonize you later on once you are no longer needed, discarded just as easily – and they will in turn use the same tactics they used on Hillary on you – only this time, once the blade is stuck into you rather than some other woman, it will actually hurt.

        Every woman here who has worked in the male-work environment knows what I’m talking about and this is why women are sometimes their own worse enemies because they don’t band together. Men continue to win using the tactic of divide and conquer.

    • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

      Buchanan tried to argue this point this past week. He kept saying about the supposed gaffe that Hillary made calling people “white” working class that the TV reports had been discussing the very same issue non-stop. AP used the same exact words. Obama’s campaign did the same.

      Pat’s been saying it for over a decade now. It’s about heritage, and preserving what’s left before it’s wiped out. He’s been accused of everything for trying to tell people that those “Dead White Men” (or Founders and the basis of Western society and thought) aren’t dead!

      From the South’s oldest newspaper (who’s owner is an arch-conservative Billy Morris — who’s dad literally punched the leader of the Cracker Party in court, and is credited in helping to destroy it, in a day a Republican in the South was a sacrilege)…

      http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/052208/edi_341839.shtml

      Racism alone cannot explain Hillary Clinton’s five-touchdown wins in West Virginia and Kentucky. If racism were that aggravated there, we would’ve heard by now. Al Sharpton would be protesting so much he’d get his mail there.

      Moreover, consider: On the same night Clinton trounced Obama in Kentucky on Tuesday, Obama was beating her rather convincingly in Oregon — a state with similar racial demographics as Kentucky’s.

      Clearly, there’s something more at work than racism.

      It might be mistrust.

      A lot of folks wonder about Barack Obama’s ideological leanings, for one thing. He’s considered the most liberal person in the U.S. Senate — a problem for many conservative “Reagan Democrats.” And if he’s the nominee, it’s a good bet any ties to radical socialists will be explored. There are already fears of that showing up on the Internet.

      [...]

      Perhaps more prominent, however, are the doubts about how deep his patriotism goes. He has surrounded himself over the years with anti-American types, such as admitted domestic terrorist William Ayers and Obama’s infamously America-bashing pastor, Jeremiah Wright. Then there are the statements by Mrs. Obama, who said she’d never been proud of her country before her husband’s run for the presidency, and that the United States is just a “mean” place.

      In the South, patriotism isn’t a logo or a partisan talking point. It’s a way of life.

      Bubba Beer (Billy Morris) sure doesn’t like Hillary, but when even a GOP paper prints this stuff, it’s revolutionary.

      The world has turned upside down!

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    We should use the same argument that some are using about voting for a woman—”Just not that woman.” We could say, “Just not that black man.” The argument is true for me, because I think if Colin Powell ran for President, he could get my vote. Yes, I know he’s a Republican, but he’s moderate enough, and I’d certainly feel secure with his foreign policy experience.
    I’m a white woman who has voted for black candidates on the local and state level. I voted for a black man and a black woman on May 6 in two local elections. Both candidates shared my views on key issues and both were proven leaders in the community. Yet, like you, Susan, I’ll be called a racist for refusing to vote for Obama. Let someone else figure it out. I have a life.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      That argument held a bit of power, due to her Clinton name, until the women came forward. Sure enough……out comes the same old sexist attacks.

      “They are immature politically.”

      So now we all know it’s not about Hillary at all.

      It’s all of us.

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmm……Interstink….since the first legal argument recorded in Western literature was Eve’s defense argument to God …..chuckle….and what did Adam say…..She made me do it !…..chuckle…..

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      Lucinda, excellent argument. Not THAT black man.

      • jwrjr

        Why not “just never THAT man” with no reference to race?

        • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

          True. Obama’s camp (along with his PR Department, the mass media) is the one that has injected race into this campaign. They have done so to divert attention from his lack of qualifications and unelectability. He is another George W. Bush — someone who has had every advantage in life but who has, rather than using those advantages to accomplish something good, has instead done the bidding of Rezko, Ayers and the other Chicago machine crooks.

  • troll free zone

    Honestly Susan, I have no idea.

  • so saddened

    and the obamatools are always telling us that black people have voted for white candidates before, as some kind of so-called evidence that they’re not voting based on race. they omit the fact that they were choosing between two white candidates (in presidential contests), so of course any votes cast were for a white candidate).

    same logic applies re gender – women have voted for men before. every time, since that’s all there were (in presidential contests). so i guess that proves we’re not voting based on gender.

    obamalogic makes no sense, of course, but obamatools haven’t finished their educations anyway.

    this year, it’s sadly looking like we will once again have two male candidates to choose from. neither is as qualified as hillary.

    given the two choices, i’ll vote mccain. and the obamatools will call me racist.

    so what. screw ‘em.

    hillary or mccain. no other option.

  • Ulahane

    As I learned in graduate school, only Whites are capable of racism. At least that is what I was taught. Anything a member of any other race does that seems to be racism is actually a natural reaction to White racism, and therefore not actually racism.

    Many university professors in the humanities, mostly White ones, believe this to be a proven fact and and any attempt to debate it is – take a guess.

    • workingclass artist

      Well that is just sad…Racism is an extension of tribalism…Tribalism is what it is….

      • http://deleted AnninCa

        amen…..that’s my take, too.

        I think that’s why I’m not in the guilty category. We all deserve to belong to our tribes. LOL*

        Dang, life is hard enough.

        UP WITH TRIBES!

        (as long as they aren’t war-mongering!)

      • Northwest rain

        Xenophobia — might be the more accurate word.

        An unreasonable fear, distrust, or hatred of strangers, foreigners, or anything perceived as foreign or different.

        The logic being: snObama looks black — so therefore he must have had similar experiences, etc. Which WE know to be a dishonest selling of snObama. Culturally snObama is not black — he has adapted to a black culture — but he is at his core a elitist.

        The Black Panthers taught Black Pride to children — however, the kids were really being taught to be hard core racists.

        As an economist friend explained the 1950s sexism and racism to me — After WWII the people with money and power wanted to restore the “social order”. Women were supposed to return to being “homemakers” — forget about being working women NEEDED for the war production machine of WWII. Blacks and other minorities were expected to return to their “place”. (The old “know your place and stay there” b.s.)

        However, during WWII Women and Minorities got a taste of freedom to go beyond the previous cultural and class constraints.

        The Civil Rights movement and Women’s Liberation movement is a direct result of the “Rosie the Riveter” and other formally all male occupations that women and minorities filled during the war.

        Psychological warfare on women and minorities was started almost immediately following WWII. Jobs were needed for the returning men — men work — women stay home. Except that many of the Vets from WWII were women. That didn’t matter, everything was supposed to go back to the way it was before.

        The Ad executives in charge of the campaign somehow forgot that a whole lot of women HAD to work.

        What I see is Axlerod using that old 1950s campaign against women — trying to get us to know our place. And he may also be trying to realign the Democratic party. SOMETHING is happening with Donna racist Brazile making a distinction about the NEW Democratic Party.

        And yes it is tribalism — them against us.

        But in reality this is class warfare — with Obama in league with the Wall Street Barons, etc. And he is using the color of his skin to bamboozle the AA voters. They are being suckered to vote against their own interests (Universal Health Care — being one major self interest).

        The racism card is being over played — sort of like that kid who kept screaming WOLF.

        We are undergoing psychological manipulation on a massive scale — the snObama gang is throwing millions into their re-education campaign.

        But I do believe that people are catching on to the manipulation — the proof is the voting against Obama in WV and other states. I believe that the massive advertising has a dulling effect.

        • workingclass artist

          Rain…I think that is an excellent analysis and given recent events in South Africa ( 42 immigrants killed…thousands fleeing ) and Italy…
          ( GOVT. burning of Squatter camps and Deporting of thousands of ROMA/GYPSIES against the EU admonitions…) as well as ANTI-IMMIGRANT sentiment in this country….It seems to be spreading…

          **THINGS ARE GETTING SCARY TRIBAL…GLOBALLY AND LOCALLY…**

    • Helen McCombs

      This is the crap they are teaching the students Good Lord thats ridiculas and no wonder we cant get understanding when we react to real racism. Police brutulity upon black males is not overreaction its reality. However again Obama does black people a real disservice when he lies about racism. However the actions of expecially the middle class Africian Americians are racist twards whites. First of all Whites owe blacks only an equal opportunity and yes there are problems but accusing people of racism for something that is not takes the chance that some of our problems with race will never be solved.
      Helen from Pittsburgh

      • Northwest rain

        Yes! An equal opportunity!

  • secularhumanizinevoluter

    The one true accomplishment obamalamadingdong and ms. dong will be able to claim is destroying the historic partnership with the broader AA vote that has been an important part of who and what it ment to be a Democrate for DECADES. Now, because of one oppertunistic conman willing to do anything for his own gain I think it is highly doubtful that the rent in the fabric will be healed for YEARS, possibly DECADES, possibly NEVER!obamalamadingdong with his bogus and unconscienable slanders cgarging racism against the Clintons has set back race relations FAR beyond the dreams of any representative of the repugnantklan party EVER could. All for the ambition of a two bit conman with NO accomplishments AT ALL other then being real good at lying through his crooked teeth, willing to say anything to anybody, anywhere if it will advance the selfpercieved interests of obamalamadingdong. Let’s be realistic, OF COURSE there are racists in the Democratic party. Are any of them going to vote for obamalamadingdong? HIGHLY unlikely. But now he’s given them license to feel vindicated in their views. Heckofajob barky!

  • deke

    I will not be pressured into voting for a candidate just because he is black. Nor will I be pressured into voting for someone just because she is a women. I want the most qualified person to be president. I want a candidate who can reach all the people, I want a candidate who addresses the needs of all the people. I don’t want a candidate who avoids the specifics, I don’t want a candidate who thinks some segments of society are bitter, I don’t want a candidate who thinks he doesn’t needs everyones votes. I want Hillary because she represents the best of what our nation has to offer.

    • jwrjr

      Absolutely right.

  • http://confloyd connie floyd

    Obama, aka Bush2, is in search of a veep according to USAToday! Is this not exactly what Bush did. Making himself President before the counting is over! The man is arogant, inexperienced, racist, economics ignorant and is unamerican! He is also out of touch with the common people of this country, those people work, pay taxes,and are the very people that make this country great!

    • american sawbuck

      amen amen amen!!!!!!!!!

  • devilspeak

    i am a racist, i hate obama, farrahkan, wright, michelle obama, the black panthers and every other black person that hates my race, white ! i am not sorry about my race, i love my race. they have crammed this race issue down our throats every since this election began. they are the “ones” that have set back race issues back 50 years and are riding it all the way to the whitehouse. well, guess what ? without the white vote, obama doesnt get the whitehouse…….and thats a fact, so they better start kissing our cracker asses, except it wont do them any good because they went way over the line with their bullshit.

  • http://bentcorner.com Rick Rottman

    For the record, we all are faced with the prospect of being labeled a racist because we support the white woman over the black man. It’s the burden we all share.

    • jwrjr

      Just proves that labels are usually wrong, especially in this matter.

    • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

      the prospect of being labeled a racist because we support the white woman over the black man

      That’s sad but still preferable to having Obama, an unqualified, unelectable George W. Bush clone, as our nominee this fall, leading to the utter devastation of the Democratic Party for decades.

      And it’s far, far preferable to actually having the guy in office to, for all practical purposes, extend Bush’s tenure to 12 years.

      Thanks Howard and Donna. Thank you so much.

    • workingclass artist

      It is also the responsibility of everyone to correct the murder of the english language….I am not Racist because I do not consider one race to be superior to another….It is a fallacy….I am a human being however and susceptible to all forms of tribalism….it is human nature….
      If I am called or labled anything…the labler first must define he usage or else it is irrelevant….Most folks are lazy that way….

  • zozosmom

    They never say what the actual poll question is. Just because someone says race is a factor in their vote, it doesn’t mean they are racist. Maybe you think Obama can’t win a general election because he is black, even though you personally would vote for a black man. Maybe you think HE has behaved in racist ways and you won’t vote for him because of it. Maybe you are black and voting for him because he is black. Maybe you think the only thing he has going for him is his race and it isn’t enough for you. Maybe you identify more with Hillary because you both are white and feel you share cultural values because of that–even though you are not racist. There are many possible interpretations of the question “Is race a factor in your vote?” that aren’t about voting against someone because he is black.

    • Tom K.

      Exactly! I’m happy to see this point made here.The talking heads who have blathered on about this ad nauseam have all failed to see this rather simple fact.

      • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

        I’m sure they haven’t failed to see the truth, they are just ignoring it or lieing like everything else this season

  • devilspeak

    hey vince foster troll…..do you think posting more than once elevates your writing status ? run along now, troll meeting in 10 minutes at the hussein camp

    • Dawnelle

      nah he just thinks he’s made the MOST PROFOUND DAMN STATEMENT EVERRRRRRR! lol

      He’s preening (not knowing he’s being plucked)

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      I’m going to ask Hillary to murder him again.

      [SATIRICAL ONLY, NSA! HONESTLY!]

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

        LOL!

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    Susan, thanks for stating openly what many of us have wondered. This question causes much frustration for me — also a white woman who will never vote for Barack Obama for reasons that have nothing — zero, zilch — to do with his skin color yet I have been called a racist during this campaign season for the first time in my life. For starters, BO’s qualifications for the job are non-existent. What is this — an Affirmative Action policy for the presidency?

    • workingclass artist

      Hmmm…Since all minorities have benefitted from Affirmative Action programs…it is specious argument…Hillary is a woman after all…

      The better argument might be logically that Obama as a candidate lacks the qualifications based on his political resume…and the tenor of his campaign, which has resulted in extraordinary division within the party. If he is this devisive as a party candidate then he does not have the capablities to lead diverse groups as a nation….Most CRACKERS are having strong reactions to the racism inherent in his campaign….We see the manipulation for what it is….A CYNICAL TACTIC USED TO DEVIDE THE PARTY….
      ** AA’s and other minority democrats that I have read on this blog and others see it too….IT IS WHAT IT IS….APPALLING NONTHELESS…**

  • militarytracy

    Sheesh Susan, I can’t believe you didn’t get the memo. See the blacks are owed a president. Now the women are probably owed a president too but the blacks deserve one more, it is guesstimated that they have suffered more than women have in America so they get to have a black president first and then the women get to have a woman president I guess sometime after that but nobody is saying exactly when. As to electing the person best suited for the job……well doing things that way is just racist so just F THAT NOISE!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      Well….they DID get the vote first!

      • workingclass artist

        and on average they still make more money for the same job…

      • thenana1

        WHAT HAPPENED TO LADIES BEFORE GENTLEMEN?

  • AF catfish

    The out-of-state volunteers I met in Portland last weekend are experiencing this too.

    “My mom called me a racist,” said one Asian-American female volunteer, who was in state with her white husband.

    My gated community relatives think I’m a racist, while they refer to my neighborhood in San Francisco as having a lot of “foreigners.”

  • Mel

    Well sorry to tell Barky I’d rather be called a racist than to be called Stupid for voting for someone who is a Marxist, Sexist,Racebaiter, useless excuse for a politician that ever existed!

    Sorry to be blunt about this, but the high percentage of Black votes for Obama are strictly race related, otherwise saying different is stating that the majority of Black’s are Marxist sympathisers, unintelligent in chosing a possible POTUS based upon policies and record and are so desperate to have a Black POTUS that they’d vote for Rev Wright if he was running!

    So I accept being labelled a Racist by the likes of Obama and his supporters who do not have a clue about the person Obama is nor the intelligence to find out, but are so swayed by an infomercial campaign that logic does not prevail with anyone casting a vote for such a vile and repuslive candidate!

    • jwrjr

      If Obama gets elected then getting called “racist” will be the least of our problems.

  • AF catfish

    Even though Frederick Douglas won the right to vote FIFTY YEARS before my great-grandmother, FIFTY YEARS before his friend Susan B. Anthony, who he ditched like a hot potato in 1870, black men are owed a president, no matter how unqualified or unelectable he may be.

    In 1869, long time friends Frederick Douglass and Susan B. Anthony found themselves, for the first time, on opposing sides of a debate. The Equal Rights Association, which had originally fought for both blacks’ and women’s right to suffrage, voted to support the 15th Amendment to the Constitution granting suffrage to black men, but not women. Anthony questioned why women should support this amendment when black men were not continuing to show support for women’s voting rights. Partially as a result of the decision by the Equal Rights Association, Anthony soon thereafter devoted herself almost exclusively to the agitation for women’s rights.

    • workingclass artist

      Anyone who has ever read The White Goddess…knows how far back this shit goes….as long as Patriarchy exists….this is going to be the result…

  • deke

    Troll Vince Foster is the epitome of the disgusting behavior of Obama supporters. The more they post the more resolved we become in opposing the entitled one. Using the name of a troubled soul who committed suicide is a typical tool of right wing extremist. He is demonstrated by an Obama administration would be an extension of Bush.

    • Ulahane

      You nailed it perfectly!

    • Dawnelle

      Orrrr it could be a TROLL X-RePublican, Hillary HATER that gets wood with Obama?

      LOL

      • beebop

        I am thinking you are right …. that’s the part that worries me the most.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    ^^^^^^^^^^^Verbal Diarrhea^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • AF catfish

    Even though I don’t want a man who plays “I’ve Got 99 Problems, but a BITCH Ain’t One” at his campaign rallies to be my president, I must be a racist:

    January 14, 2008 — PRESIDENTIAL hopeful Barack Obama claims to run a clean campaign, but someone in his camp took a swipe at Hillary Clinton through the candidate’s theme song.

    As Obama and his wife, Michelle, strolled triumphantly into his victory party in Des Moines, Iowa, on Jan. 3, Jay-Z’s “99 Problems” was blaring. In it, Jay raps, “I got 99 problems, but a bitch ain’t one.”

    Some listeners took it as a not-so-sly reference to Hillary.

  • marek

    short answer yes. long answer – blacks being more inclined to vote for a black candidate are not being racist anymore than women being more inclined to vote for a female candidate are being sexist – in both cases you have long marginalized groups looking forward to a symbolic victory over a history of oppression. White voters preferring a white candidate because of they’re race or male ones doing the same for their own gender are seeking to reinforce the old habits of racism and sexism.

    • zozosmom

      “White voters preferring a white candidate because of they’re race or male ones doing the same for their own gender are seeking to reinforce the old habits of racism and sexism.”

      Preferring a candidate because you identify with them is not the problem. This is not the basis of sexism or racism. Sexism and racism are about systematically closing off power to women and minorities. It isn’t about cocktail-party comfort zones. Don’t trivialize centuries of oppression with such a stupid statement.

      • workingclass artist

        I THINK IT IS MORE COMPLEX….Blacks and women might seek more than just a symbol….Who would best address the interests of my group….
        Now if Males are against Clinton because she threatens the status quo,
        or Obama because he is AA threatens the status quo…Neither would not necessarily imply racism or sexism but simply the aversion to an upset of the status quo….
        But if Men believe that Clinton is incapable for POTUS because of her gender despite the evidence…that would be sexist.
        If Whites believed that Obama was invalid because he was of an inferior race….that would be racist.
        Conversley…If AA’s voted for Obama because they felt Whites were evil
        ( morally inferior) that would be racist.
        If women voted for Clinton because men were more stupid then women, then that would be sexist….etc…ad infinitim….ad nauseum…
        ** It is all about the theory of superiority…Gender…or…Race…**

  • AF catfish

    There were quite a few AA out-of-state Hillary volunteers in Portland this weekend. From Washington, New York, Arizona, California. They must be racist too.

    • Helen McCombs

      No we are race traitors.
      Helen from Pittsburgh

  • Ugo

    Yes right on.

    “Clinton urges to reject votes of racist” (David Gergen a CNN contributor)

    I could not believe what I was hearing. Where was Mr.David Gergen when Sen. Obama and his camp where getting 95% of the African-American are voting for Obama? Most of the African-Americans do not understand what it is meant to be for your friend in bad and good time.

    • AF catfish

      So yesterday she spoke out against sexism AND RACISM let’s see if anybody noticed.

      Just as she’s said several times she’s work for the nominee whomever he or she may be because we must not elect John McCain, she’s said this for MONTHS now, has CNN noticed?

  • troll free zone

    This conversation is circular. There is no endpoint, unless you do some amazing in-depth nearly-academic (but please not as boring) paper on it.
    You would have to trace back to their origin (or site six or so major examples set into their time period) both sexism and racism. Where will you find the first utterances of “you are not like me. Therefore, you are less than me.” And how do you stack one against the other in terms of degree.
    Don’t fall for their game. It’s just more psychological warfare. Really, consider the source.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Voting FOR someone because of their race* isn’t racist, it’s racial.

    * (Assuming the only reason OPRAH is voting Obama is because he’s black. After all, Bill Clinton carried over 90% of the black vote too.)

    Voting AGAINST someone, however, because of their race, is racist.

    There is a difference. And if you (or anyone else) don’t understand the difference between racial and racist, please look it up.

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

    Ironically the false allegations of racism against hard working decent Americans has provided Hillary with a powerful weapon and has turned Obama and his supporters into the real racists.

    A combination of many things will defeat Obama but the false racism allegations are huge reason his campaign is doomed and has been doomed since he pulled the race card.

    • Urban Hillbilly

      I agree. Calling white people racist time and time again only seems to be working among the elite lefty liberals of the party. They figure they can’t possibly be the racist whites – they’re too enlightened and well educated, for gosh sakes!

      • http://deleted AnninCa

        And the only ones who have any legitimate connection to the God of their choice, of course.

        The rest……clinging out of desperation.

        *blech*

    • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

      His campaign was already doomed, which is why he pulled the race card, believing that to be his only hope. If the same party elders who have chosen to encourage and assist him in his race-baiting had instead taken him aside and informed him in no uncertain terms that such behavior would not be tolerated in the Democratic Party, things would be much better today. Voters would have been able to concentrate on issues and qualifications rather than being bombarded by baseless accusations of racism and very real and very vile comments toward women. Obama still would not have won, but at least he would have been a viable candidate in the future. He is destroying the Democratic Party and will suffer along with the rest of us.

    • beebop

      And his continuation of seeing “race” rather than “issues” is laziness and lack of connection on his part and not on theirs. He’s the one running for office and needs to be able to appeal with platform, prior experience and ability to relate. He can’t close the deal. They don’t have to buy if they don’t like the product. The packaging is not their fault.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Trolls always make more solid for HILLARY!

  • Kay Green

    Here is something I noticed, If you watch “corporate news” It almost seems like they are deliberately using divisive tactics to start fights over race and gender. The other day I saw on CNN where they were arguing whether people voting for Obama weren’t racist by voting for one of their own(I’m not saying I agree with Obama on his stands but would not attack him for being black) I was talking to my ex, and said they just keep throwing this in our face whether it is the gender or race issue, I told him I felt like that blacks have the right like everyone else to vote for someone who they feel will best represent them as a whole. So when you watch corporate owned tv ,remember they are spreading a lot of misperceptions about white voters too. If they support Hillary and don’t support Obama they are automatically labeled racist. Am I saying there isn’t racism at all? No. But it exists to some extent in all races.Singling out black and white voters and saying they are automatically racist because they support a candidate of the same color, is a divisive wedge that tends to stir up animosity and distrust of the other guy. I actually think that corporate owned media tends to do this deliberately.

    • Lute

      CNN is pushing that racial divide.
      Now I’m thinking they’re doing this to split the party.

      • catriley

        Don’t forget CNN was at one time, long ago, a good and fair news outlet. Around the time of the House of Bush, their CEO went around to the Repubs in DC and asked them how they could be of service to them… becuase Fox News was kicking their ass by being a mouthpiece for Karl Rove and the GOP. Well, CNN definitely shifted hard right.

        Unfortunately, as with typical tin-ear CNN, they have not noticed that the fad of hard-core conservatism has waned, and people have moved soundly to the middle. CNN is not exactly pro-Obama to puff Obama up because they want him.. they are pro-Obama because he is who the repubs want to face in November.

      • workingclass artist

        UMMMM……DUH !…..makes for good copy ( old newspaper slang )

      • thenana1

        So why do they want a RACE WAR? That is what some sone seems to be going for?

        HILLARY 08

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Obama would be Pelosi and Reid’s dream…we all love Pelosi and Reid!

    • american sawbuck

      and they have done such an admirable job since 2006 too.

      • beebop

        Yeah … even Scooter got off nearly scot free …

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Everyone noticed.

    CNN is just one provider of news. So is Fox, whose ratings have skyrocketed.

    Yes, we all know about the issue of voter rights.

    Even Republicans know. And they will be the biggest “message-senders” for awhile.

    Rush’s entire show was on voters rights, and how the “elite” strip them.

    Obama and the insiders have lost this one. They blew it.

  • http://confloyd connie floyd

    The DNC has not taken the Clintons down, the Dnc is in the process of taking itself down. It’s ok though, because us white folk can and will be welcome at the RNC. So you latte liberals and blacks you better vote in numbers, because you will have to make up the difference in white women, white men and all of the Hispanics, asians, so good luck getting your racists butts in the WhiteHouse!!

    • ***DNC did what RNC could not do ((((take HILLARY down))))))*****

      pls add to that

      catholic voters
      jews voters
      asian voters
      seniors (u know ur grandparents)
      rural voters
      small town bitter voters
      TYPICAL WHITE GRANNIES
      smart sweeties(who ask questions)
      voters who never been called -n–word(per wright)
      voters who are old dem party(per donna brazile)

      so i do not know

      if blacks and lattes can make up so much

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

        …and Garlic Noses.

    • Lute

      Maybe we can make more changes as Republicans.
      Push pro choice, health and economic reform.
      because I don’t think the democratic party will allow an electable nominee.

      It will become the ethnic vanity party.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      You left out the Jews and gays and lesbians. And Old People.

      • workingclass artist

        and…irish…No ?

        • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

          and…irish…No ?

          we can be mad because we were discriminated by being left out of the descrimination list

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

            Nope, Wright nailed the Italians AND the Irish.

  • brandy

    It’s a sad reality to Obama followers that we’re voting for Hillary because she’s a much, much stronger candidate.

    There has to be something wrong with us instead of something very wrong with him.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see an internal memo or two talking about quelling criticism by slinging around the term “racist.”

    If you say something positive above Hillary, you’re racist. If you say something negative about Obama, you’re racist.

    The word has been so trivialized that it’s sad. When there is real racism, nobody is going to listen any more. We need a new term for it that actually describes it.

    In terms of the update to the post. I met Michael Nutter when he came to speak at my law school. What an incredible man. My admiration for him continues to grow.

    He stood his ground in his support for Hillary, even when he was called a traitor by some in the African American community.

    Nutter makes principled decisions unlike Kerry, Kennedy, Edwards, and so many of the other party “elites.”

    • catriley

      I’d vote for Mayor Nutter in a heartbeat if he’s half as impressive and principled as he appears. I hope he continues his career in a big way. I look forward to the chance to vote for him, based up what I’ve seen so far.

      • workingclass artist

        When Rendelle is ready to move on Nutter will make an excellent GOV.
        If you can run a city like Philadelphia….You can run anything…anywhere

      • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

        And Stephanie Tubbs Jones is equally impressive.

        • Helen McCombs

          As is Shelia Jackson Lee.

          • workingclass artist

            AGREE…SHE IS ONE OF MY HEROES….EXCELLENT PUBLIC SERVANT

  • Ijane

    A question about the polls…

    When people mark “yes” to the exit poll question: Does race play a factor in your decision, are there other follow up questions to differentiate between the various racists?

    For instance, if a white female who’s married to a black man, is voting for Hillary Clinton only because she’s a woman and therefore checks “yes” on ‘was race a factor’ question, does the poll reflect her to be a racist against men or does she automatically get labeled a racist against black people because the poll isn’t set up to determine what type of a racist a voter is…

    like, if a white man hates black people but happens to hate women even more so he votes for Obama and checks “yes” on the ‘was race a factor’ question, is there a follow up exit poll question that will categorize him as an equal opportunity racist or does he just go into the general racist pool?

    If the exit polls don’t allow the racists to be categorized, then if a black woman votes for Hillary Clinton only because she’s a women and checks “yes” on the ‘was race a factor’ question, does she screw up the exit poll results?

    • blueasthesky

      Race could be a factor for somebody who didn’t vote for Obama because of the senator’s race-baiting; or somebody who didn’t vote for Obama because of the senator’s connection with Mr. Wright.

      There’s a lot of ways that race could be a factor other than, “I’m not voting for Obama because he’s black.”

  • catriley

    Let me get this straight.

    Okay, I’m white and I don’t choose Obama. I don’t agree with his vaguely defined policies, his weak resume, and his complete avoidance of substance. I am creeped out by the cultish antics of his campaign and followers. I am immune to the NLP messages in his speeches. I have no use for his sleazy associates, and the big bux insiders from corporate America that fill his campaign.

    But because I choose another candidate who I feel is uniquely qualified, and superbly experienced. But she is not black, that makes me racist.

    By that logic, then every single black candidate is history should have been elected. Because that would mean that every single Obama supporter who has ever voted before would have chosen the black candidate in the race, regardless of their qualifications or appeal. Because to do otherwise would be.. racist.

    Alan Keyes should have been a contender. Al Sharpton. Jesse Jackson. Where were the screaming crowds and internet trolls extolling their virtues? Where was the millions and millions of dollars pouring into their campaigns? Where was Huffington and Zbig? Penny Pritzker? Kerry? Daschle? Where was the Orange Satan? Chris Matthews and Olberman?

    Why weren’t they supporting the BLACK candidates???

    What? They didn’t agree with their ideaology? They didn’t appeal to them? They didn’t find them to be what they were seeking in a candidate? Well that’s no excuse!

    Filthy racists! (get it?)

  • Myshiba

    obama is a spineless incompetent for whom I will NEVER vote (I happen to be AA). NOBO in ’08! McCain here I come (IF Obama is the Dem. nominess, that is)! By the way, I am a registered Independent.

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    When people answer race is a factor. Maybe they are refering to the fact Obama sat in a church for 20 years that preached how bad white people are. Race only is a factor to me in that I don’t believe a racist should be President.

  • Myshiba

    The “Wright Factor” is one of a plethora of reasons why Obama will never receive my vote; the “primary” (pun intended) reason is his rank incompetence.

  • Urban Hillbilly

    Ironically, the white people, who are most apt to call other white people racists over Obama, are white people, who do not work, socialize or live by black people. Sadly, these white people walk away feeling good about themselves. (I guess because they are convinced they are not the racist whites.)

    This has been my experience.

    • workingclass artist

      Like the moniker…and I agree

    • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

      white people, who do not work, socialize or live by black people

      Yes, they love black people and poor people in theory only, not up close and personal.

      • workingclass artist

        I’m a member of what the government defines as the WORKING POOR…
        I live in whatever affordable housing I can find…which means I live in a slum where the Roof leaks when it rains…My landlord is a typical slumlord….and when I relocate after my kid leaves for college I will actually file a formal comlaint to the state board. Because then I won’t experience retribution for doing so.
        POVERTY IS THE GREAT LEVELLER….Many Liberal Elities despise the Working Poor….We upset the neat and tidy equation…Especially if we are educated and exersize common sense…imho

  • hwddawg

    Just curious, in the question asked in KY “Does race play a factor in your decision” was this supposed to have been asked only of people that voted for Hiallry, or could it have been the reason why people voted for Obama too? I heard it put out there on the news during the returns, but it was never very clear to me the context of the question. Thanks for any clarification.

  • Kay Green

    I would ask you all what about writing in Hillary’s name on the November ballot ?According to wikipedia this has been done and there have been candidates who have won because of this.

    Go to:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

  • hwddawg

    It’s different in most states, and in alot of them the candidate has to register that option before it will truely be counted. Other states it’s not an option. here’s a page that goes over it state by state

    http://www.writehillaryin.com/Write_In_Facts_by_State.php

  • Ellen Tenn

    I voted for Obama when he ran in Illinois for Senator. Since that time, he has done nothing for the people of Illinois. After all that has been said and done to Hillary by Barack and his supporters, I will never vote for him. It has nothing to do with his race but by the way he conducts himself. I’m soooo sick and tired of the media making it out that the reason I won’t vote for him is because I’m a racist. It is making my resolve to never vote for him stronger!

  • Nancy Chapman

    Susan,
    The Obama campaign has made race an issue whenever it suited their purposes, and, in doing so, they have set back the Civil Rights movement decades. And all this from a candidate who was touted to be the “great unifier”. Geraldine Ferraro and Bill Clinton, among others, both made innocuous comments that the Obama people denounced as racist, when, in fact, they were quite accurate. David Axelrod obviously believes that the American people will fall for this ploy. Kind of like Howard Dean believes we’ll all come together in November for the good of the party.

    The DNC’s rules as enforced by Dean are arbitrary to say the least, and undemocratic at best. The one rule we in America should live by, according to our Constitution, is this: one person, one vote. Dean, I understand, is also responsible for the caucus fiasco, also undemocratic. How is the one person, one vote principle demonstrated in the caucus states? Busloads of people were brought to the caucus sites and those people intimidated anyone who wasn’t an Obama supporter. The Democratic party is in trouble, because we have had enough. We are going to have our voices heard in November. If Obama is the nominee (and, my God, isn’t Hillary glorius in her fight to prevent that?), then we will vote for McCain and teach the DNC a lesson they won’t soon forget. Yes, we are going down in history as the people who broke the back of the Democratic party. I am a life-long Dem, but I want nothing to do with the party as it is today: a bunch of good ole boys who arrogantly decide who our candidate will be and then proceed to put in the fix.

    According to the electoral map experts (Karl Rove, for one), Hillary would beat McCain handily, and McCain would beat Obama. But do you think the DNC in all it’s wisdom will admit that Hillary is the best candidate and convince the superdelegates to vote accordingly? No, they decided long, long ago that Obama was the chosen one, and, at this point, I’m afraid that no matter what calamities may arise in the Obama camp, the DNC will look the other way, make excuses, blame someone else, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum.

    So we are left with the unhappy choice of voting for a Republican. But, the good news is that McCain is not another George Bush, as the mainstream media are so desperate to convince us. He’s a good man and a patriot who has already intimated that he will be a one-term president, and, best of all, he’s not Obama. The DNC and the “party leaders” will never believe that we won’t all come to the fold until McCain is in the White House. And then, I’ll be writing hundreds of emails to say, “I told you so!”. This isn’t to say that I’ve given up on Hillary becoming the nominee. I’m still hopeful that we can convince enough people to contact the DNC and let our voices be heard. They can ignore us at their peril.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      They have set BOTH racial AND gender relations back 30 years!

      • Nancy Chapman

        Absolutely!!

      • workingclass artist

        One of many reasons OBAMA IS UNFIT FOR POTUS…clearly to intelligent people…

  • Lute

    This thread makes me uncomforable.
    It is very, very easy for people to take things in a way they were never intended.
    I suspect Trolls are deliberately posting comments that are over the top.
    People of all races support Hillary, and we would not want anyone to feel out of place.
    I’d be happier if this whole thread were deleted.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Skip it then.

      Some of us aren’t uncomfortable talking about race.

      But I’m not keen on certain topics, and I just don’t post on those threads.

      Why do you think your own discomfort should dictate to everyone else what they should be comfortable discussing?

      That’s silly.

      Just skip it.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

        I have no white guilt. My ancesters came for Europe 100 years ago. I have voted for AAs before and i will again. Just not THIS AA. If that’s not acceptable, then tough.

        • http://deleted AnninCa

          Me, either. I am not suggesting I don’t have opportunities to grow. I do and have during even this campaign.

          I like that aspect of this “battle,” too. It’s challenging.

          I loved Mayor Nutter. He couldn’t deliver Philly to her. But his announcement was the best I saw in favor of a candidate all season.

          “I’ll be the last man standing, and so be it.” (paraphrased)

          That’s my kind of guy. He obviously isn’t going to let race dissuade him, no matter the consequences.

          That’s the kind of guy we need to push into the national scene. That’s what I mean by focus on “down-ticket.”

          Let’s get some brains going in this country.

          And let’s knock off beating up on ourselves. OK, we’ve been complacent and lazy. What country with this kind or riches wouldn’t succomb to that?

          Big deal.

          Let’s just get back on track. It’s NOT impossible.

          • american sawbuck

            My down ticket will be republican if bambi is the nominee and so will many others

        • workingclass artist

          Ditto….I’m also Po….Poverty is the great leveler….I get kicked to the side whether I’m Black or white….cause I’m the WORKING POOR…and most of us Po’ Folk know it….

    • so saddened

      the great obaby himself said we need a conversation about race.

      of course, what he really meant was please forget i spent 20 years with wright. let’s change the subject and proclaim me a great speaker and a uniter, not a divider…. but he did SAY we should talk about race.

      of course, i’m sure obaby’s idea of a good talk about race is vote for me because i’m black and you want to feel good about yourselves, but pretend it’s for some other reason, then go home you stupid bitter clinging people.

      hillary or mccain. no other option.

      • http://deleted AnninCa

        I think my favorite comedy blip on the entire campaign was Jon Stewart’s bit on starting the race dialogue.

        I fell out of my chair.

        It was classic.

    • Nancy Chapman

      African-Americans comprise 18% of the population, and 16% of them are voting for Barack Obama.

    • oaktown

      I am black (and a woman) and I am not uncomfortable with this thread, nor do I think you folks are racist because you don’t vote like Obama. I’m kind of mad at black folks for not taking a closer look at that hack before jumping on his bandwagon.

      I like the earlier post about racism and tribalism and I think to a certain extent everyone has some of that but for the most part a lot of people are okay. The racism card has been played (and I really don’t like that phrase because it makes it seem like being a minority is some kind of ace in the hole) because liberal whites respond to charges of racism by going out of their way to prove they are not.

      Another reason is that once someone says a person’s response to them is a result of racism, it cuts off any discussion about why the perosn having that response feels the way the do. So when Obama says Appalachia doesn’t vote for him because everyone there is racist, he doesn’t have to address what a lousy candidate he is.

      The thing that really burns me up is how they are trying to make it seem like the Clinton’s are racist. I think that’s a crock of horseshit. In 2001 I went to an event with all the black federal judges in the country. I didn’t know there were that many and I found out that in Bill Clinton’s eight years in office, he appointed more blacks to the federal bench than had been done up to that time, doubling their number. I bet even Obama wouldn’t do that.

      NOBAMA ’08.

      • workingclass artist

        Well stated Oaktown….I agree…Playing the card is a tactic designed to silence the dialogue…Commonly used by fascists. It is a form of censorship.

        ” Civilized life depends upon the sucess of reason in social intercourse….
        The prevalence of logic over violence and interpersonal conflict…”
        Juliana Geran Pilon

  • Kay Green

    Perhaps we should start a write incampaign for Hillary. I know one thing it would send a strong message to the DNC, that we won’t be bullied or intimidated or guilted into voting for their candidate of choice. Do you all think this is a good idea or a bad one? I would like to know how you think and what your opinions are.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      I’ve responded consistently for weeks now. Everytime the DNC contacts me for money, I respond.

      I won’t give them a penny. Neither will I give McCain a penny. He may get my vote, but he’s never going to get my money.

      Are you not on the DNC list?

      If not, go to Hillary’s site. There is a link to send a message regarding voters in FL and MI. Click on it, fill in the blanks, and you’ll be a part of the group that has gotten their attention already.

      They know they blew it.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      I personally would vote for Mccain since it hurts Obama more.

      But if you can’t stomach it, then I would do a write in.

      Whatever you do, don’t stay home! The party bulldogs would love that.

      But remember, plenty can happen between now and August. All those skeletons you know….So let’s deal with it if and when it happens. Then we can plan voting strategy.

    • Nancy Chapman

      Hillary as a write-in vote won’t accomplish anything because every state has its own set of rules about write-in candidates. If you want to make a statement, if Hillary is not the nominee, then vote for McCain as hundreds of thousands of people have said they’ll do. And never, ever contribute to the DNC again. Let them know we mean to take back our country!

    • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

      Are Obama, Dean and Brazile finally waking up and accepting the fact that we all will absolutely not be voting for Obama should he get the nomination?

      Is their strategy now to try to get us all to write in Hillary’s name, knowing full well that it will not be counted in many states, thus taking a vote away from McCain?

      Nice try, but I’m voting for the better candidate. If the choice is between Hillary and McCain, I’ll vote Hillary. If McCain and Obama are the choices, I’ll vote McCain.

      I’ll never vote for Obama, and I’ll never waste my vote in such a way that will passively enable him to win. McCain is no prize, but he is vastly superior to George W. Obama.

  • Emily Pickett

    80% ??? As was said – try 93%.
    All for ‘brother’ Obama.
    (excuse me while I go throw up now).

  • Kay Green

    I already have done that and even contributed to her campaign on a monthly basis ,I’ve given what I could being a a very limited budget. But I did this even after the press said for Hillary to throw in the towel ,my thought is it isn’t over yet. Just like in a football game you don’t tell the losing team it’s over until the game is actually over. But I think even if all you can make is a one time donation of 5.00 , i think we should not just give up. That’s what the Obama camp and the media want us to do. They did the same s–t with Al Gore who was officially elected to be president by many accounts, “throw in the towel it is over”. Deju vu. Do the democrats ever learn?I’ve also written the DNC about this, saying if they crowd out Hillary and don’t let her finish in this race ,win or lose , they will incur a lot of resentment among her supporters and will only alienate them further. Then they blame Hillary for dividing the democratic party by staying in the race, I think it is just another manipulative maneuver on their part, to make Hillary drop out.. Fair play is just that fair play , if you use dirty underhanded ,strong armed tactics to undermine the opponents position so they will opt out.. That will alienate alot of voters.. who sense they are being played for and mind -fu–ed.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    Oh wait! TV is off the VP thing for hillary and onto the Supreme Court thing now.

    • so saddened

      don’t watch them, so don’t know what they’re saying, but i can see it now. obaby somehow steals enough votes (soros buys diebold) to get elected,

      then nominates hillary to the s ct so she can never be a political threat again and will have to shut up about political issues.

      but michelle can’t control her hatred, so michelle makes sure hillary doesn’t get confirmed.

      then hillary, who wasn’t confirmed thanks to michelle, is in the senate and plays a huge role in obaby’s removal from office and subsequent conviction/imprisonment when the truth about soros buying diebold and obaby’s getting him to rig the election comes out……

      ok, i had a little fun with that. now back to reality.

      hillary or mccain. no other option.

    • Helen McCombs

      What about the White House. Its funny that if a man loses the Primary then he gets a second shot at the White House. We need to make them understand that she can and should run again. We should protest loud and clear. No S.C position or no VP or no Senate Majority leader. We will accept nothing more then President Hillary Clinton.
      Helen from Pittsburgh

  • Tom Plumb

    I’m curious to see how this plays out — in regard to FL and MI, their is simply NO WAY they give Clinton the delegates that are rightfully hers.

    I have to wonder what it is that makes Brazille and Dean so suicidal, politically.

    In another post, I mentioned one would have to a half wit to not see Obama’s corruption, his FILTH, yet Dean and Brazille dismiss it.

    Why?

    Do ALL members of Congress, and such, line their pockets the Obama way?

    The pay to play in regard to the hospital board was disgusting, it was Obama’s baby, goes hand in hand with Michelle’s pay raise…

    • Tom Plumb

      one would have 2 B a half wit, sorry…

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      I mentioned one would have to a half wit to not see Obama’s corruption, his FILTH, yet Dean and Brazille dismiss it.

      You cannot dismiss that which you are a part of.

  • http://paganpower.wordpress.com/ PaganPower

    Good questions Susan. I really have no answers. Because in order to understand the mind frame you posit I would have to sink to their level of stupidity.

    Some things just are. And there ain’t a damned thing we can do about them at this very moment. Because they have our backs up against the wall. But give us a little more time and we will change everything.

  • yheitman

    TO VINCE FOSTER:

    McCain is the best alternative to Hillary for those who see Obama as a closet Marxist or worse (LIKE MOST OF US HERE!).

    Following Obama’s exposure of character via Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Auchi, et al many Americans realize that Obama represented far more than a liberting opportunity to elect America’s first black president or to put America back on course. His connections tell people what they want to know. He is way further off-center than they were led to believe in the first six months of the campaign. People are turned off by Barack’s position and his disciples have zealously attacked Clinton supporters as “stupid women, racists” and now just “lost sisters” who need to be put back in the pen. It makes people angry but their utterances are still primarily non-racial even though pro-Obama supporters would like to scream otherwise.

    So if people are becoming racially sensitive and you’ve never seen this before (just like we’ve never seen Black Liberation Theology) before, it might appear on the surface to be racist and that our opposition is his color not his strange relationships and obscure anti-feminist platform. I don’t care if the man is a Martian I don’t care if he is a brain in a jar, it is what he stands for not what he looks like that matters, otherwise John Edwards would be my candidate wouldn’t he? Why not vote for good looking Edwards?

    Very few racists have popped up on the pro-Hillary blog sites but they are not a part of our movement in support of Hillary Clinton. Hillary was and still is the best nominee the Decomcrats can put forth with the best broad appeal so far and we see Obama as a caucus maneuvering, unpopular candidate. His strategies are brilliant, his popular appeal is limited to those who are mesmerized by his vacuous rhetoric.

    Please stop forcing the race stick down our throats. We are mostly women and understand a fraud candidate when we see one. The reason he is not an alternative to Hillary is because he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He represents far more radical ideas and social upheaval will be the likely result of his election, if that is to come. We who oppose him within the Democratic party are not obliged to “join up” with the male oriented Obama train which has done nothing for women, and promises nothing for women. WE have a right to vote our bloc. Only Obamabots make it about race. Take your square peg and shove him wherever he fits!

  • yheitman

    ESPECIALLY TO VINCE FOSTER:

    McCain is the best alternative to Hillary for those who see Obama as a closet Marxist or worse (LIKE MOST OF US HERE!).

    Following Obama’s exposure of character via Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Auchi, et al many Americans realize that Obama represented far more than a liberting opportunity to elect America’s first black president or to put America back on course. His connections tell people what they want to know. He is way further off-center than they were led to believe in the first six months of the campaign. People are turned off by Barack’s position and his disciples have zealously attacked Clinton supporters as “stupid women, racists” and now just “lost sisters” who need to be put back in the pen. It makes people angry but their utterances are still primarily non-racial even though pro-Obama supporters would like to scream otherwise.

    So if people are becoming racially sensitive and you’ve never seen this before (just like we’ve never seen Black Liberation Theology) before, it might appear on the surface to be racist and that our opposition is his color not his strange relationships and obscure anti-feminist platform. I don’t care if the man is a Martian I don’t care if he is a brain in a jar, it is what he stands for not what he looks like that matters, otherwise John Edwards would be my candidate wouldn’t he? Why not vote for good looking Edwards?

    Very few racists have popped up on the pro-Hillary blog sites but they are not a part of our movement in support of Hillary Clinton. Hillary was and still is the best nominee the Decomcrats can put forth with the best broad appeal so far and we see Obama as a caucus maneuvering, unpopular candidate. His strategies are brilliant, his popular appeal is limited to those who are mesmerized by his vacuous rhetoric.

    Please stop forcing the race stick down our throats. We are mostly women and understand a fraud candidate when we see one. The reason he is not an alternative to Hillary is because he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He represents far more radical ideas and social upheaval will be the likely result of his election, if that is to come. We who oppose him within the Democratic party are not obliged to “join up” with the male oriented Obama train which has done nothing for women, and promises nothing for women. WE have a right to vote our bloc. Only Obamabots make it about race. Take your square peg and shove him wherever he fits!

  • Kay Green

    Another thing I’ve noticed, and this is the gouger, I saw this on Cnn and other news forums, on mothers day Hillary Clinton chose to campiagn, the comments as usual were accusations leveled at her being a mother,”If she were a good mother she would have stayed at home not campaigned and spent time with her daughter, and more of the same blah, blah.What it shows me is she is having to work harder to win votes and that is why she chose to campaign on that day(there are so many days left in this campaign). How many of you are working mothers who have had to work on holidays or even mothers day?That is essentially saying we are all “bad” mothers” If we do work on mothers day. Hillary I think shows a lot of devotion to her daughter and her daughter supports her mother unequivocally. And we wonder why women are in a uproar?? Would they have said that about a male candidate who chose to campiagn on father’s day? What do you all think?

    • Karma

      They probably would have had the male candidate visit orphans or something, and praise his generous donation of his time. I could see this as something Rudy would do. While the relationship with his real son is in the tank and has been for years.

      Anyway, I saw those remarks too on Mother’s Day.

      Here Hillary and Chelsea were working towards a higher goal and they were disparaging them for it.

      The commentary compared to the video just didn’t match, it was really quite sad. I was watching that disconnect and thinking of my own mother and what she would think of this race and this type of commentary.

  • american sawbuck

    Bambi is like Rumplestilskin but instead of turning straw into gold he has turned Democrats into Republicans. I never watched FOX until Bambi, I never listened to SEAN until Bambi ,I never felt any dislike for any group till Bambi…If I ever turn on RUSH’S show I will know I am lost in the great right wing forest never to return and it is all bambi’s fault…he will be responsible for the end of civilization as we know it.

  • Illinois woman for Clinton

    It’s so ironic that when the MSM & Obama supporters claim Clinton is “playing the gender card”, they seem to forget that men have been “playing the gender card” (albeit the “male” one) forever. THEN, taking the opposite meaning of “playing the _____ card”, they also claim Clinton has “played the race card”. Women has experienced this kind of verbal double-talk using this vague, card-playing analogy so many times that it’s easy for them to see the inconsistency in how the phrase is used.

  • Illinois woman for Clinton

    To amend my above post, other minority groups, incl. African-Americans, have also experienced the double-talk (i.e., white people who’ve “played the race (white) card” forever accusing non-white people of being the ones doing the “card playing.” It’s clearly become the time for retribution instead of “transformation”, however.

  • Illinois woman for Clinton

    To add to the above post, other minority groups, incl. African-Americans, have also experienced the double-talk, of course (i.e., white people who’ve “played the race (white) card” forever accusing non-white people of being the ones doing the “card playing.” It’s clearly become the time for retribution instead of “transformation”, however.

  • Kenya

    All of you who are not WEALTHY, better wake up and make sure the Republican depression comes to an end no matter who the Damn Dem is!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Ulahane

      So we can get a worse Jimmy Carter level one if Obama is elected?

      • workingclass artist

        Yes…at least St. Jimmy was a one term govenor of a state…Obama cannot even run a committee meeting

    • Karma

      How does Obama’s policies help regular people?

      Because based on pure financial reasons, Obama’s policies do not help me.

      We aren’t wealthy and are being squeezed now…..but from what I see Obama would squeeze me harder.

      According to him, the rest of the world demands that I get squeezed harder too.

      So, please point out to me where Obama is looking out for me? Because supporting Cheney’s energy plan hasn’t given me must faith in his decision making skills either.

    • Helen McCombs

      You are a retard McCain is the better choice for the economy then retarded Bambi because he cant string two sentences together unless they belong to someone else. You are a troll who is Sexist. HaHa if you disagree with Clinton you are a Sexist. See we can play that card too.
      Helen from Pittsburgh

  • apishapa

    I don’t have an issue with white people voting against Obama ONLY because he is black being called racists. However, by the same token Blacks voting for Obama ONLY because he is AA are also racists. Also, those voting against Hillary ONLY because she is a woman, are misogynists.

    However, we at NQ are not voting against Obama because he is black. We would gladly vote for a qualified AA. We are voting against him because he is an inexperienced, unqualified, lying fool. And we truly believe he would make a disastrous President. Most importantly, Obama has sought out and developed relationships with crooks, terrorists and loco preachers. He scares the shit out of us. Pure and simple.

    We are voting for Hillary because we truly believe she is the right choice at the right time for this country.

    We are tired of the assumption by Obama supporters and the media that we are so shallow that we risk the future of this country by basing our choice of candidate on race. I believe this is the most important election of my lifetime, and I damned sure am not going to vote for a candidate based on race or gender. Hillary is just so much more qualified and prepared for the presidency, it should not even be a contest.

  • kat in your hat

    It’s because there is a racial double standard.

    Anytime a white person defends their race or discusses racial issues they are considered racist. Forget about pointing out statistics—that would make you really racist–to point out factual data.

    Please, there are so many people who think that black people can’t even be racist, so there is no talking to these sorts of people.

    I’ve noticed that any white person who says they would never vote for Obama is called a racist filled with hatred. They totally ignore all the explanations and reasons why you would not vote for Obama, and LIE and make racism accusations. These people are so obsessed with Obama that they truly cannot understand why anyone would not want him, except for the color of his skin? They are severely out of touch and not LISTENING–as usual. Not every concern listed about Obama is a lie set up to sabotage him; they are legitimate concerns that are not being addressed, which makes it worse.

    The power of the word “racist” or “racism” etc, has lost its power because it has been so overused and misused, and I have no respect for anyone that makes such knee-jerk accusations without having proof, etc.

    It’s all become so obnoxious. White people are supposed to just be quiet and take it, especially white males. I say screw it. Believe me, I’m over pussy-footin’ and walkin’ on eggshells, and carefully wording everything. I don’t give a crap anymore, Racism! Racism! Racism! Racism! STFU.

    • so saddened

      the last time one of them called me racist, he threw in scum of the earth – guess he didn’t get the make nice memo.

      doesn’t matter to me. can call me whatever they want.

      hillary or mccain. no other option.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      See, that’s where I think I disagree. I THINK, but am not entirely sure, that it actually is quite OK to discuss differecnces as well as simlarities.

      I THINK we’re past the race card stuff.

      Even his 90% doesn’t scare me about that. I get it.

      But I THINK they get me, too.

      Probably not one the deep level. But shoot, I’ve been married, and neither did he. I don’t expect that type of bonding. LOL*

      But I do think we’re closer than we think we are.

  • Kay Green

    You know what I initially thought, ok if Hillary doesn’t win, I’ll vote for Obama, after all they are similar on issues, and had nothing against him.I thought either way we can’t lose we have 2 strong democratic candidates and we win anyway. But after all the pressure tactics, and other things I’ve read in present news. I feel like I cannot support a man again who uses strong-armed tactics and intimidation to try to coerce people into voting for him.If anything he should tell his supporters to lay off the race thing… that it is creating more division for his campaign and will not win the support of Hillary’s voters.Guess what have you ever thought that you as Obama’s supporters are actually creating a situation where it might not get him elected or make him more electable because more people will turn to other candidates, being turned off by your rhetoric and insults, Did you ever think you may yourself be sabatoging his chances of winning because of the constant accusations about Hillary supporters being racist uneducated, hicks? Your strategy is definitely a winner. It won’t be Hillary who causes his downfall,I’m afraid it will be his own supporters who malign her supporters. The more you alienate people , the less chance your candidate will ever have a chance of winnig their support, they are just not going to buy it, that Hillary supporters are just a bunch racists because they won’t vote for a balck man.

  • mimi

    Personally, I think it’s pointless to discuss this issue. The more you do, the more they are going to label you racists.

    This is a democracy; you don’t have to justify your choice to anyone.

    And you really have to stop caring if someone calls you a racist if you’re not one. The more you care about being labeled such, the greater chance they have at changing your mind and getting your vote. So don’t discuss it. If it’s not true, who cares what anyone else thinks.

  • Christine

    PA will go for McCain. I’m from Pittsburgh and I know that enviroment. The are so irrate over what is happening now and the media’s input. Obama camp is claiming that it will take PA—NEVER!!!! The are also claiming that Georgia is now up for grabs…Impossible! They are spinning this “new electoral map” BS! It is going to come down to PA, OH, Fl, and WV!

  • yheitman

    Also about two weeks ago I read that the state of Massachusetts that has been blue like forever is going RED because of Governor Deval Patrick, you know Obama’s friend.

    Deval Patrick is the guy that Obama plagiarized from and I guess he’s doing such a bad job of running Massachusetts that people are pissed and going to McCain.

    Never thought that would happen. Yeah, there’s a change coming all right!

    • so saddened

      so right, yheitman, there’s a change coming. just not the one obaby wants.

      re massachusetts, am wondering if a kennedy sympathy thing might set in and save that state for obaby? just wondering, not familiar enough with the state (long way from texas).

  • so saddened

    always does come down to pa, oh, fl. obaby says he’ll get co or whatever. maybe. but he’ll lose fl and oh and probably pa. takes about a dozen co’s to make up for those electoral votes. (he’ll have to get them from the extra 7 states).

    i think obaby’s forgetting that repubs get to vote in november – all of them, not just a few in red state dem caucuses. he’s also forgetting that most repubs fit into the demographic groups he hates so much. and, of course, he thinks hillary’s supporters will just fall in line like his sheeple have. so many delusions for one skinny man to carry around.

    • yheitman

      Love your post!

      • so saddened

        thank you kindly.

  • Helen McCombs

    Obama cannot take any state without 51% of the white vote in any state period. I see him winning only Ill. I also see the big losses of the House and Senate and the most hated man in the democratic party. I still dont see him making it to the convention. Someone is going to show him an old fashioned form of racism. I do not believe true racists are going to let him survive.
    Helen from Pittsburgh

  • SJ

    It is all about getting a black man into the WH, it has nothing to do with how efficient he will be, how much he will achieve for anything of that nature.

    It boils down to this hidden reason for the majority of blacks that if Obama is President there is some kind of redemption, something that they felt they would never see in their lifetime a black president of the united states.

    He could turn out to be worse than Bush, push this country to WW111, not ever do one simple thing in office but to them they will walk with their chest puffed out, they will shout from the rooftops that they have arrived, they will boast and brag of this world event, some will say Africa will now rise because a black man rules the free world.

    The pastors like Wright that support him will preach and thank god for this new coming, they will sing songs and dance about him and so it goes, and to them it will not matter if oil reaches 300 dollar a barrel, gas gets to 15 dollar a gallon, a loaf of bread gets to 10.00, hey a black man is president that is the bottom line.

    Whites step aside there is a new kid in town, change and hope can go out the window Obama need not even look back and tell them thanks, it wont matter they have achieved their goal. When things start to fall apart they wont say, they will then say the whites never wanted a black man to rule, the race card will be played to the fullest all in the vein of protecting themselves from others showing them how wrong they were and how they should carry the blame for the new mess we have found ourselves in.

  • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

    Why is it racism if a majority of whites decide to vote for the white candidate and they tell exit pollsters they’d never vote for Obama, and a few of them tell the pollsters that racism is a factor?

    And why is it not regarded by the pundits as racism if a huge majority (80%+) of blacks vote for the black candidate, simply because he is black?

    Want a quick reason why? It’s called a “Culture War”.

    What values do you appreciate? And what would you defend?

    Watch these videos closely for every symbol and word…

    Do you defend this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlUaZlyct5M

    Or this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjIpGWUILsM

    If it’s the former, you can better appreciate this video — and not consider it racist, as you’ll see past the PC brainwashing…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2V6K0mezuU

    If it’s the latter, you’ll see this as gospel…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S14tUQbHlJI

    Can’t see that Blacks also have deep roots, and appreciate their own heritage and damn proud of it, too. No, just claim everyone is like Obama, rootless and without even an identity, instead. Next we’re souless, as religion will be gone!

    Naw, Susan, you’re not a racist to want to defend YOUR values. You’ll also — now — see how and why a large swath of the country are Red states, and some of it will remain, long after this election, too. Politicians come and go, but family and roots stay for generations, and they’ll survive with their CULTURE intact.

  • Cindie

    The DNC, Main Stream Media and Pundits, and Obama Supporters and Super Delegates.
    It seems to me that you hear what you want to hear and you see what you
    want to see, but let me be extremely clear on what has gone on during
    this primary season and what will happen after it is over.
    First of all to the Obama voters, I cannot speak for the White Obama
    voters someone else would have to speak to them. However, I can speak
    to the African American Voters because I am an African American. It is
    easy for you to try to justify 90-92% of you voting for Obama, but the
    truth is the truth. You are voting for Obama simply because he is an
    African American. Let me ask you a question. How many of you did what I
    did and researched both candidates equally; How many of you pulled down
    the policy and voting records and evaluated them against each other?
    How many of you sat down and thought about the things that are
    affecting you on a daily basis and then took a good solid look at both
    candidates and made a decision? How many of you, if your life or the
    life or your children depended on it, can easily list two or three
    bills that Obama has voted on or written? How many of you know his
    stance on Healthcare, the Economy, and Education? If your life depended
    on it right now today, how many of you know exactly what Barack Obama
    stands for. How many of you know what the change is that he has
    promised? If your life depended on it could you explain what the Change
    actually is? I say this because I find it offensive that my own
    friends, family members and co-workers choose to call me a sell out
    because I am a Hillary Clinton Supporter and I simply say to them, I am
    not interested in making History. I am interested in the future of this
    country that my nine year old child will grow up in, period. I have
    done the homework. I have made a decision and I am sticking to it. It
    offends me even more when fellow African Americans feel that it is ok
    to walk up to me on the street or at my Childs school and say to me,
    ’so do you think he is gonna do it? Do you think Obama is going to
    win’? What makes them think first of all that I am an Obama Supporter;
    and when I tell them I am not, why do they have the audacity to say to
    me, ‘come on sister we owe it to him’. How can you just assume because
    I am an African American that I will automatically vote for Barack
    Obama?. Ask yourselves the tough questions. Step back and take a good
    look at yourselves and see what you come up with. To those supporters
    who have been so vile and disrespectful to Senator Clinton, you are the
    reason why the party is being torn apart and it shows your lack of
    knowledge in what your candidate stands for, because according to him,
    he is the great unifier. But his followers seem to be the great
    dividers. All you have to do is take a look at the blogs. Debating the
    issues is one thing, but vile personal attacks and nasty rhetoric is a
    sign of the characters of those who support him. This says to me that
    if he were to be elected to office, you would not hold him accountable.
    You would continue to bury your heads in the sand. How can you Unify a
    country when you continue to use the Race Card. Everytime someone
    disagrees with Senator Obama, they are labeled racist. His
    Administration would be mired in constant back and forth about race. If
    you do not agree or you speak out against him, you will be considered
    racist. This is the type of White House we would have and nothing would
    get done.
    To Senator Obama: Your arrogance is not becoming. The way that you talk
    down to people is not attractive. You are asking us to put you in
    charge of the people of the United States of America, yet you act as if
    you are Superior to us. You take us for fools, by expecting us to
    believe that you had no knowledge of what your Pastor was preaching for
    20 years. You expect us to believe that you and your campaign did not
    inject race into this campaign, but those of us who viewed this primary
    with clear open eyes, know what you have done and we will have our
    voices heard in November. It is not your race, take it from me I am a
    sister, it is your lack of substance and your inability to come up with
    your own views and your own policies, and we will be heard in November.
    You are supposed to be a Uniter, but you have caused more division in
    this country than I have seen in the past 30 years.
    To Senator Clinton: I support you 150%; I know in my heart of hearts
    that you are truly a champion for the people. I have known your work. I
    have researched your policies and I have watched you during this
    campaign. In times of trouble you are the one that I would want to have
    my back because I know that you would go down fighting for us. Thank
    you for your body of work for the American People, although it may not
    feel as though they appreciate it right now. Those children that have
    healthcare because of you Thank you; those women that are able to spend
    time with their children after their birth; or those children who are
    able to take time off work to take care of their elderly parents,
    without fear of losing their jobs due to your hard work on FMLA Thank
    you. The people of New York Thank you. This country is lucky to have a
    fighter like you, although they do not deserve it. Thank you for your
    brilliance.
    To the Main Stream Media and Pundits, you chose to praise this unknown
    man without thoroughly vetting him and now it is too late. You, I hope,
    will take full responsibility for this when he tanks this country. You
    all do not even have the common decency to act as if you are trying to
    be fair and balanced. Chris Matthews cannot stop salivating over Obama;
    Tim Russett seems as if he gets angry every time Hillary wins, his eyes
    just bug out of his head. It is a sad thing for me to say that I have
    gotten all of my fair and balanced news from Fox News Network, which is
    totally unbelievable. You have assailed Hillary Clinton and tried to
    make a Mockery out of Bill Clinton. You along with Barack Obama and his
    camp, have made the case that Bill Clinton is somehow a Racist because
    he said something that was totally true. Because of your dislike for
    the Clintons, you have trashed them constantly. and you are the ones
    who started the whole ‘The Clintons’. I do not see the name Bill
    Clinton on the ballot. It is totally disrespectful the way that you
    have treated President Clinton and Senator Clinton; absolutely no
    respect. You have failed the American People and it will come back to
    haunt you; let me see you spin the disaster which is Barack Obama.
    To the DNC: For 22 years I have been a loyal member of this party, a
    party that I thought was the party of the people. But I now see that
    you all are nothing but the good old boys club. You have totally thrown
    Senator Clinton under the bus. Someone who has been loyal to this party
    and fought for this party; someone who has shown so much strength and
    passion for the people, because you cannot break away from the good old
    boys club. It took this long Primary season to see just how flawed and
    undemocratic your system really is. First of all you penalize the
    American People, the voters, for what their legislators did. You did
    not have the common sense to say, ‘ok we will fine the Michigan and
    Florida Democratic Party monetarily for moving up their primaries’. No,
    you chose to take away their right to have their votes counted. How
    undemocratic is that at a time when we have soldiers coming home in
    body bags because they are fighting in a country to give others the
    right to simply vote. Yes the candidates agreed, but why should they
    have had to in the first place. No one had the common sense to say that
    we cannot disenfranchise millions of Americans? You have a system where
    someone can win an entire state and come out with only 10 or 13
    delegates more that the person that lost. How is that Democratic? That
    means that the notion of one man one vote is not the what this party
    runs off of. You have a system of Caucuses, which does not allow for
    elderly and hardworking Americans to participate in; is that
    democratic?, You put Super Delegates in place to make decisions and
    vote how they want to, but mid game because it does not benefit the
    candidate that you want, you strong arm them into voting how you want
    them to vote. This is the party of the people? You have a system where
    you have a number of 2025 delegates and neither candidate has reached
    that mark; but you declare a winner and then the good old boy network
    decides that they will come out in droves to back him up, even though
    millions have not voted. So then you are saying that the Super
    Delegates make the decisions? Which is it?
    To the Super Delegates: There is something to be said about Character
    and what I have seen in the last couple of months has no signs of it.
    For those of you who backed Hillary Clinton in the beginning and then
    felt it necessary to throw her under the bus when she was behind in the
    delegate count or was being declared down and out by the pundits, you
    are the reason why the Democratic Party is divided; those types of
    antics are unprofessional and disingenuous. It is one of two things:
    You were backing her because you thought she would win, or; You backed
    her because you believed in her candidacy, her policies and what she
    stood for. If it was the latter, no matter what the numbers said or
    what the Pundits said, you would stick with her. It is called courage
    and conviction, something that her true supporters have shown. For
    those African American Super Delegates who have been threatened and
    brow beaten by your fellow African American Colleagues, Talk Radio and
    constituents, thank you for having a back bone and standing up for what
    you believe in. That is what true Character is all about. I suspect
    that the turn coats will hear from their constituents in the future.
    Jumping on the winning bandwagon does not take any effort, but standing
    firm to your convictions takes everything.
    What will happen next? The Pundits, the DNC, and Barack Obama
    Supporters have all said, ‘Oh people are just saying that they will
    vote for McCain or stay home in November, but that will not happen. The
    party will come together’. Understand this loud and clear. We did not
    vote for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman. We did not vote for
    Hillary Clinton because she is White We voted for Hillary Clinton
    because we felt that she was the best person for the job and that she
    would fight for the people of this country. We did not vote against
    Barack Obama because he is Black or he is a Man. We voted against him
    because we felt that he was not the right person for the Job. We felt
    that he is not experienced enough; We felt that he was not honest about
    the way that he feels about this country; We felt that he has no
    substance; We felt that he gives great speeches, but has not backed
    them up; We felt that he gets defense when he is questioned about his
    policies and his way of thinking. What makes you think that that has or
    will change? We will Not vote for Barack Obama. We will take our
    chances with John McCain because at least we know that he loves this
    country without a doubt. At least we know that he has the National
    Security background in the event of any issue; At least we know that he
    has a record of reaching across the aisle, even at the dismay of his
    party. We know absolutely nothing about Barack Obama. We will not vote
    for him no matter how you wave it off or dismiss what we would or would
    not do. It will not happen. Common sense tells us that in the next four
    years nothing but clean up will take place. I will take my chances with
    someone that I know where he is coming from (McCain), as opposed to
    someone who has shown no substance and only the promise of Change in
    Washington (Obama). Obama? who is supported by all of the very
    Washington Insiders that he chastises, Obama? who will be so indebted
    to the old Washington Insiders he will not know which way is up. Now
    you ponder that. Pundits, say what you must for ratings and see what
    happens in November. And by the way, if and when Hillary Clinton gives
    her Concession speech, it will be the last time that we will watch the
    mainstream media again until election night. No convention, no
    commentary, no Sunday shows. We are not interested in the Dog and Pony
    show that the Democrats will make Hillary Clinton perform for the so
    called good of the party, after the party turned their backs on her. We
    love Hillary, but we will not vote for Obama because she said so. We
    are not robots and we will not drink the Kool-Aid. Keep this in the
    bank until Election day.
    Sincerely,
    An Ex-Democratic Voter,

    Marla Jo

  • lemonv

    The Obama surrogates has made race as an issue in this primary (with the blessings of the Obama campaign?) and race bait, too , as a counterpoint to whatever future controversies and scandals that Obama might have in the future. He has made race and race baiting the central portion of his campaign. It is with a certainty that Obama surrogates(with the blessings of the Obama campaign?) will answer every controversy and scandal with statements pertaining to race.

    Remember the time when the Somali tribal dress that Barack wore in 2006 and was leaked thru the Drudge Report? David Plouffe immidiately accused the Clinton team of ’shameful offensive fear-mongering’. Then there is the op-ed of Orlando Patterson in the NY times which tried to put race in the 3am ad of Sen. Clinton.To qoute the 1st paragraph of the op-ed:

    “On first watching Hillary Clinton’s recent “It’s 3 a.m.” advertisement, I was left with an uneasy feeling that something was not quite right — something that went beyond my disappointment that she had decided to go negative. Repeated watching of the ad on YouTube increased my unease. I realized that I had only too often in my study of America’s racial history seen images much like these, and the sentiments to which they allude.” And that is only the 1st paragraph.

    Then there is the latest “brushing the dirt off the shoulder” incident which the Obama surrogates(?) has linked to the Jay Z song, “Dirt Off Your Shoulder”, a racially charged song (see this web link and judge for yourself.)http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jayz/dirtoffyourshoulder.html

    And now this:

    May 9, 2008 — WASHINGTON – First it was Bill Clinton dismissing Barack Obama as just another black candidate winning South Carolina.

    Now comes Hillary Rodham Clinton, splashing moonshine onto those smoldering embers by telling West Virginia voters that “hardworking Americans, white Americans” support her, not Obama.

    So “hardworking Americans” who support Hillary are racists, then? If that is Obamas’ position, then my vote will be Hillarys’ and will write that name in the ballot. Otherwise, other voters will have to decide but not me.

    This can be construed as race baiting tactics of the Obama team and surrogates. It only needs a spark.

    Please forward to your friends because it is imperative that the American people know who the real Barack Obama is and the way it is seen by me is he wants the race card to be front and foremost always. This could be his strategy up to the GE ( in case he wins the primary) and, heaven forbid, up to the presidency ( in case he wins it.)

    In order for me to change this perspective on Obama, he must prove to me by his actions that this perspective is wrong. Otherwise, it will just strenghten it.

  • Ron Moser

    KY exit-poll aftermath / Petition;

    If you are a Hillary supporter who is pissed off and will
    stay home or vote McCain over Obama, read and sign at;

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Nobama

    -

  • Kay Green

    I also think too often we are dealing with racial and gender stereotypes. Which is a big problem.. I’m not afraid if I am called a racist,I lived among different people and even in a different culture. I have not had what I call any real negative experiences with black people through out my life. And even identify with their struggles and wanting to be treated as equals, don’t we as women confront the same issues But I feel there is a common denominator which should show we have much more in common than just looking at the barriers of race and skin color and gender as those are just externals. Namely most of us want to see better for our country and our children.. The major concern is we elect a candidate who will stand up for America. Hillary has never said it would be easy to deal with the special interests groups, something she learned from the white house. She also said the republican party would have a hey -day with her, but responded if you can’t take the heat you better not be running.She has also has dealt with what has seemed like insurmountable obstacles and pulled through, so we see the character strengths and the reality of knowing that this race was not going to be a picnic, neither is the presidency.So I think as Hillary supporters we also need to pull through for her, for those who may think the race is over,I’m saying it isn’t until the final vote is counted.

  • Susan

    There is absolutely NO difference between the blacks voting for the first black presidential candidate, and white women voting for the first white female presidential candidate, EXCEPT for the fact that the MSM has chosen to portray ONE voting bloc as RACIST [white women] and NOT the other {blacks]. I have written repeatedly, and will do so again here, that I am a white woman who voted for Hillary Clinton, because I DID MY HOMEWORK ON BARACK OBAMA!!! How can any concerned American voter [other than the DNC and MSM!!!] ignore Obama’s corrupt rise in Chicago politics and his associations with the likes of Aiham Alsammarae, Nadhmi Auchi, Rashid Khalidi, Antoin Rezko, William Ayers, Bernadine Dorhn, Louis Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright, etc, etc. These “friends” of Obama’s are KNOWN domestic terrorists, PLO and Saddam Hussein supporters, anti-white, anti-American, anti-Semite, corrupt politicians and criminals, for God’s sake!!! Is it racist not to want these people inhabiting the White House and advancing their catastrophic plan??? If so , THEN you can call me racist, but until THEN, PLEASE just call me AN INFORMED VOTER!!! Here’s yet one more reason NOT to vote for Obama ever:
    http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

    Of all the threads going today the conference call one is the most important! I urge my friends here to focus extra attention to it! I just posted this there:

    Susan you might want to make this the top thread for the rest of the night. It is very important!

    The absence of troll poop in this thread proves it scares them. They know Hillary will do fine in the rules committee so they won’t want to point attention too much to this topic. “Mission accomplished” indeed.

    Please participate heavily by clicking here.

    And listen to the conference call. You will find great solace and strength after listening! I guarantee!

  • Susan

    Another site NOT TO MISS:
    http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

    Thanks, Dendy!!!

  • http://HONESTYABOUTMYVOTE madanthony45

    I will not vote for a black and you can call it what you will. The black race will forever hate the white race. We will be held accountable for all the ills of the black race forever. When I see the black commentators on TV, they all seem to be in one mode. Get even with all the whites they can. It galls me to no end. I wish all you whites who proclaim not to be racist, would step up and tell the truth. Every damned one of us is racist to a certain degree. It kills me to see these white butt kissing closet racists trying to act so politically correct. ” LOOK AT ME . I’M FOR OBAMA. I’M SO NOT A RACIST. CAN’T YOU SEE THIS? AM I NOT VOTING FOR OMBAMA?” Spare me, please.

  • http://360.yahoo.com/ommotherlifeforce fred heidrick

    people lose ther jobs necause they make in sensitive remarks against blacks,but black hip hop people can say kill cops and other ofencive things and call them selves the [n] word and its ok.i definitly think it is a double standard, becaues for so long,we disrespeted blacks,and were racist.

    but now we just look at a person wrong and you get[what are you looking at]gerrr.and for the life of me i cant figur out why bill clinton was racist comparing jessy jackson with obama.wish some one would explan it to me.

    i allso would vote for mayor Nutter,heard him talk many times, and am very impersed.to me it a power trip.they have the power over others.

    some people in my town that are black will walk right out in fornt of cars on a 40 mph road ,slowly and make people lock up ther breaks and slide all over the road, and them flip the people off that are driving because,they think because they are black,they can screw with white people and get away with it leagaly.and if they are hit, they make it a race issue.

    i agree obamas campain is run by the loser white men ,dean, kerry, and daschel seeking political power using a black man to get it.

  • kat in your hat

    Originally posted by “swamp”
    —–

    swamp12:58AMMay 23rd 2008

    Check out some of the groups/individuals who endorse Obama

    Racist Louis Farrakhan backs Obama at Nation of Islam convention in Chicago
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-farrakhan25feb25,0,6391391.story

    New Black Panther Party endorses Obama
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59326

    Hamas top political advisor likes Obama
    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Hamas_Endorses_Obama/2008/04/17/88754.html

    muslimsforobama08.com

    And you gotta love these Obama followers ……….. NOT

    jujuan10:19AMApr 19th 2008
    wait all you bigoted white crackers…………….we are going to take over soon……………soon you will feel what we have felt…………….i will be so happy to see all of you living in the ghettos……………….on medicaid and getting your foodstamps so us black folk can make fun of you when you buy brand names with your foodstamps……your day is coming …..black will rule the country finally…….our dream come true by the name of Barack hussein Obama……

    irannye12:09PMApr 20th 2008
    You people need to get real (susan) He will be president more black people are voting more then any election in history just to get obama in so get over it you red neck racist mother fuckers because he will be running our country and you racist white people will be calling him master just like yall made us do it in the 1800′s so get over his religion and who he is friends with

    swaggafresh7185:09PMApr 30th 2008
    you motherfuckers really need to stop hating on obama seriously…..and fuck all you guys whose supporting hillary chinton and john mackain

    BLAH! BLAH!(((((((((((((((7:37PMMay 15th 2008
    YOU PATHETIC FALSE PATRIOTS ARE NOTHING BUT 100% CORN-FED,
    REDNECK, NAZI-LOVING, RACIST TRAILER TRASH IDIOTS!

    YOU XENOPHOBIC DUMBFU*K!4:14PMMay 18th 2008
    ))))))))))))))))))))YOU STUPID DUMBFU*K((((((((((((((((((
    BARACK OBAMA WAS SAYING HE WOULD STAND WITH
    PATRIOTIC MUSLIM AMERICANS AND DEFEND THEM
    AGAINST RACIST ATTACKS FROM REDNECK DUMBSHITS
    LIKE YOU AND YOUR ILK.

    mau11:55AMMay 19th 2008
    Obama’s middle name is HUSSIEN. So what! It was given to him
    by his Muslim father. He was brought up as a Christian by his
    white maternalgrandparents. His paternal Muslim association
    has made him sensitive to race-baiting and faith-bashing by
    100% clueless, trailer-trash, asshole, dumbfuck redneck losers
    like Pau and Larry against innocent Muslim Americans. Patriotic,
    God-fearing Americans voted for him and dedicated individual
    small donors are pumping money into his campagin for him to
    kick Hillary’s a*s into the f*kin weeds

    paddy3:27PMMay 19th 2008
    SHE WON WEST VIRGINIA AND IT LOOKS LIKE SHE WILL TAKE KENTUCKY…BIG DEAL… THESE REDNECK STATES ARE DIFFERENT….BROTHERS MARRY SISTERS AND DAUGHTERS HAVE KIDS FROM THE FATHERS AND ALL HAVE NO TEETH OR BRAINS…MOMS OUT BACK DRINKING MOONSHINE.. HEY LETS BUY A TRAILER WE CAN ALL LIVE TOGETHER!!!!IDIOTS DOWN THERE BELIEVE ME..YALL COME BACK NOW

    Don4:04PMMay 21st 2008
    You bullshit supporters are all losers. That is why you ARE bitter. And Racist Pigs. Your lives already suck, so why do you really care who wins? Your sorrowful lives will still remain the same. You all will still be just plain old “Working Class Whites”. So, why don’t you just get the hell out of the way and let a Black Man show you how it is supposed to be done.

    • madanthony45

      AND WE WILL STILL BE WHITE AND YOU’LL ALWAYS BE BLACK. GET OVER IT. AND OBAMA WILL BE THE PAWN OF ALL THE RICH FAT WHITE CATS IN OFFICE. HA HA. SO MUCH FOR US CALLING YOUR PRESIDENT “MASTER”. HE’LL BE CALLING THEM “MASTER” JUST LIKE HIS WIFE’S ANCESTORS DID 100 YEARS AGO. RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL IN AMERICA AND NO HALF WHITE HALF BLACK PRESIDENT WILL EVER CHANGE THAT. NOT THAT HE WANTS TO. BUT HE’S GONNA FIND OUT JUST WHAT BEING A PAWN FOR FAT RICH WHITE CATS IS ALL ABOUT. AND……….DON’T FORGET, OBAMA IS HELPLESS AS LONG AS CONGRESS IS MOSTLY WHITE. HA HA

  • Ulahane

    OK, so your argument is that it’s acceptable to vote for Clinton because she’s White, but unacceptable to vote for Clinton because Obama’s Black?

    Or are you just wasting our time with semantics?

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    You repeat……I repeat…

    2.
    You look it up. We don’t care. You don’t care about women, we don’t care about you.

  • ***DNC did what RNC could not do ((((take HILLARY down))))))*****

    OKAY

    BILL CLINTON NEVER GOT 90% BLACK VOTE IN ALL 50 STATES OF USA

    NEVER 90%

    AND

    EDWARDS WON IN SOUTH CAROLINA IN 2004

    BUT GOT 2% IN 2008 COMPARE TO 92% OF OBAMA —

    WHAT,S THE SPIN NOW —–GOT KOOLAID???

  • workingclass artist

    Vince you are wrong….Look up the def. in a real dictionary….I posted def. up the thread….You are leaving the racial superiority out of your equation.

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott

    So what do you call voting against some one because he is a dickhead?

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    Second time same as the first—
    Okay…so…if we vote for Hillary because she’s white, we’re not racist. We’re racial! You heard it from Vince, everyone. We’re not racists.

  • Ulahane

    If you had an intelligent thought, it might be worth repeating. But this?

  • Prabhata

    SO all those white people voting for HRC and AAs voting for BO are racial? I like that kind of splitting hairs. Only the voter knows his heart. I will never vote for BO and did not support HRC because I supported Edwards. I do not support HRC because she’s a woman. I support her because I think she’ll make a good president. I don’t know what kind of president BO would be because he doesn’t have a history worth talking about. He’s mediocre. He’s the Democratic Bush.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Somebody is Cranky.

  • Dawnelle

    or maybe he’s just blown a gasket and is on continual reload

    quick! someone pull it’s plug!!

  • Tom Plumb

    HA!

    Vince Foster?

    I raise you three dead gay (choir) members of Trinity church, and one Orlando Jones, all connected to Obama!

    Is there a gay black panthers, do they have an outreach group?

    No?

    What about the nation of Islam?

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Douche

  • zozosmom

    They never say what the actual poll question is. Just because someone says race is a factor in their vote, it doesn’t mean they are racist. Maybe you think Obama can’t win a general election because he is black, even though you personally would vote for a black man. Maybe you think HE has behaved in racist ways and you won’t vote for him because of it. Maybe you are black and voting for him because he is black. Maybe you think the only thing he has going for him is his race and it isn’t enough for you. Maybe you identify more with Hillary because you both are white and feel you share cultural values because of that–even though you are not racist. There are many possible interpretations of the question “Is race a factor in your vote?” that aren’t about voting against someone because he is black.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    pppppppppppppppppppppp

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Now you’re spamming, and you’re on moderation — until Hillary can murder you again.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Verbal Diarrhea^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • zozosmom

    There is no evidence that people are voting aginst Obmaa rather than FOR hillary. This whole meme is designed to discount Hillary’s supporters as not being FOR her, just against obama. It’s sexist bullshit. Vince, take your sorry-ass bullshit somehwere else.

  • Dawnelle

    This is why kids should NOT be given a computer!!!

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    10.

    Okay…so…if we vote for Hillary because she’s white, we’re not racist. We’re racial. You heard it from Vince, everyone. We’re not racists.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I do and agree.

    There IS a difference.

    However, Obama has slashed and burned his way with this charge.

    Frankly, I started off being horrified that I was being described as a racist. I got that a lot on HuffPo.

    After awhile, I settled down, got out of reacting, knew that his race has never been a big deal to me.

    What matters is the attitude toward race issues. I find his attitude disturbing. The race card he played in SC bothered me the most. I’m terribly respectful of people’s “hot buttons.” I think they should not be pushed because it causes them pain. I’m against inflicting pain on others.

    He pushed that button with abandonment and did so for the obvious motive to have a “blow-out.”

    Now, I could even get behind the thinking that this is OK had he gone on to translate that into other “blow-outs.”

    Might have been OK.

    But he didn’t. He pulled every trick in the book in Ohio. Didn’t work. He lost Texas. 3 delages more due to the caucus nonsense does not put that state in his win category unless you’re an idiot.

    So he played that race card in SC and lost.

    He now has triggered off the predicted backlash.

    But it’s more subtle than pure racism. Frankly, that exists is a very small, small percentage of voters in the Deep South.

    What IS still very relevant is that people are not all on the affirmative action at all cost to others bandwagon.

    Now, me? I’m in LA. If I’m going to jump on that bandwagon, it will be for Latinos, not AA. Latinos are the hardworking and highly participating families in my neck of the woods. They deserve my respect and support, and they got it, too. We have a Latino mayor.

    There are other minority groups besides AA. Their attention in the 60s is because they were the leaders. MLK opened the door.

    But now….it really is a big tent.

    We are just not all about AAs. Their issues are mine. My issues are Latinos. Latino issues are Gay rights.

    It either all comes together?

    Or it’s divisive.

    Obama has run a regressive, divisive campaign. He will be loathed by true progressive AA thinkers.

    He will even go down in history for this travesty.

    I refuse to say he’ll set back AA rights. I think we’ve so moved beyond his thinking, the idea of going back isn’t plausible.

    But he’s no progressive for AAs.

    I do understand their vote. It’s not racism to me. It’s racial pride.

    But the exit polls confirm what I’m saying, too. THey would be OK with Hillary. They are NOT bamboozled.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Didn’t my candidate murder you? I don’t understand how you’re still able to post comments.

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott

    Vince since barky is only half black I guess we’re only half racists.

  • beebop

    Making the assumption that a white woman who supports HRC and will not vote for Obama because he is a black man is delusional.

    That assumes that the WW has no other reasons. I am so yawn over explaining my position … which hasn’t varied or budged an inch. It has not moved based on Rev. Wright or MO’s ridiculous observations. I will confess that I saw it as an opportunity for others less informed to rethink their positions, but I was never going to vote for him. The vote for McCain has evolved after over and prolong exposure to delusional fools like you. Thanks for making it that much easier.

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    4.
    Okay…so…if we vote for Hillary because she’s white, we’re not racist. We’re racial. You heard it from Vince, everyone. We’re not racists.

  • Tom Plumb

    Btw, the more realistic and informed one is in regard to the IL combine, and it’s various constituents, the more plausible the Obama gay murder connection becomes…

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Verbal Diarrhea^^^^^^^^^^^

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    You look it up. We don’t care. You don’t care about women, we don’t care about you.

  • ***DNC did what RNC could not do ((((take HILLARY down))))))*****

    BILL CLINTON NEVER GOT 90% BLACK VOTE IN ALL 50 STATES OF USA

    NEVER 90%

    and

    EDWARDS won in SOUTH CAROLINA IN 2004

    BUT GOT 2% IN 2008 COMPARE TO 92% OF OBAMA —

    WHAT,S THE SPIN NOW —–GOT KOOLAID???

  • workingclass artist

    I understand and you ( Vince ) are wrong….voting against someone because you consider their race to be inferior to your own….is RACIST….
    Otherwise…you can vote against another’s race, creed or sex if you find it to be in your best interest….this would then be called partisan…or bigoted…chavanist
    or simply voting for the best interests of a group…ex. Catholics voting for JFK because it advanced the interests of the group…

  • american sawbuck

    We don’t care if you have a cute explanation of the voters because 98% of the black vote for bambi is racist. Call it whatever you want but it is racist racist
    RACIST. And if they want to make me a racist fine. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander…and I have been called worse names in my life…I might enjoy being a white racist in this Obama driven hate environment.

  • Helen McCombs

    Well Mr Stupid White man guess what you know nothing about Racism because if you did you would know Obama knows nothing about racism because if he did he would not have called some of the things in this campaign racist. Let me tell you Mr Stupid White fucker saying someone is lying about an position they hold is not racism. I ask black people who tell me Hillary is racist I say ok I will not vote for her if you can prove it. Guess what they cannot prove it. I point out the extreme sexism that Senator Clinton is facing and when they ask me to prove it I do just that. So stupid white fucker I hope you OD on Obama Koolaid and get the hell off this site.
    Helen from Pittsburgh

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    Okay…so…if we vote for Hillary because she’s white, we’re not racist. We’re racial! You heard it from Vince, everyone. We’re not racists.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Obama is Mondale, Carter, Kennedy, Kerry all rolled into one…how could we lose?

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Tourettes?

  • Untilthelastdogdies

    Did you get that from the OED????

  • workingclass artist

    You are wrong….Racism is the belief of racial superiority….OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN ARE RACIST…..ASK UNCLE JERRY….

    OBAMA HAS A SERIOUS CONFLICT WITH HIS INNER CRACKER…

  • Helen McCombs

    You are a punk well punk I want to offer you and your punk ass candiate 10 minutes in a boxing ring with me. What are you so afraid of I am after all a little woman. The truth is neither of you have the balls to fight me I will be like my candiate and punk you out and show you up for the weakling you and your punk candiate is. I say 10 minutes in a boxing ring and if he wins he gets my vote if not he will drop out of the race and commit sucide. That would be a dream come true for all real Democrats.
    Helen from Pittsburgh

  • so saddened

    so true. but if obambi gets to the general, we will be voting for mccain as a vote against obambi rather than a vote for mccain. at least i will. obambi can slink back to ayers and they can plot their next coup – maybe in kenya?

  • AF catfish

    Voting against a white candidate because you are black is racist. Awesome!

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Stupid Racialist^^^^^^^

  • AF catfish

    Every time Obama trolls repeat this, I donate $5 more to Hillary!

  • Dawnelle

    a TROLL X-RePublican, Hillary HATER that gets wood with Obama?

  • Kay Green

    I do agree with you , I think you have made a good distinction of the two.

  • workingclass artist

    ALL THAT OBAMA TROLLS ARE CAPABLE OF IS VERBAL MASTURBATION…

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Bingo. They can’t poll “trust” either.

    It’s too intangible.

  • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

    It’s just part of the Obamabutt training. They believe if they repeat nonsense over and over and over, our brains will eventually atrophy to the point that we too become a cult member, start to believe, and begin chanting “he’s the one.”

    Well, bad news, Vince. He’s not the one and never will be. It must really suck to realize your unqualified and unelectable candidate will never be President, beaten either by a “girl” or an old fart.

  • AF catfish

    $5 more to Hillary, thank you for repeating this! She’s up to $20. Make it $100 please!

  • Dawnelle

    14yrs old, wet and sweaty and getting more sweaty with each repost

    someone pull the poor kids plug
    before he ends up in the hospital with a broken wrist

  • Lute

    Well, I hear the AA radios smearing Hillary Clinton to black people, and telling them that white people will never allow Obama to become president.
    So I would say a lot of their votes are against white people, and by your definition, RACIST.

  • ***DNC did what RNC could not do ((((take HILLARY down))))))*****

    pls add to that

    you do not care for
    women
    latino voters
    catholic voters
    jews voters
    asian voters
    seniors (u know ur grandparents)
    rural voters
    small town bitter voters

    SO -WE DO NOT –CARE FOR YOU —-

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    I figured him for at least 16.

  • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

    Smart.

  • workingclass artist

    If you mean dickhead = someone who’s behavior you find to be grossly immature, uncouth and ignorant….then despite the sexist overtones in the slang….you would be voting in favor of the intelligent, mature and socially gracious candidate….
    Yours would be an informed and intelligent decision…NAZIS WERE ALL DICKHEADS IF I’M READING YOUR DEFINITION CORRECTLY…chuckle…

  • workingclass artist

    At this point it is verbal masturbation….and just as boring to witness

  • beebop

    It loses its effect. It’s kind of like taking anti biotics for too long and they don’t do the job.

    The “race” cry from the Obama camp is so overused/suspect now, it has the opposite effect on people …

  • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

    Possibly. Another possibility is just selective memory. They are hoping we’ll forget about all the statements from Wright, Farrakhan and maybe even Michele Obama herself demonstrating hatred of whitey.

    So, Cha-cha, next time you comment, you need to include the part about only whites being capable of racism; otherwise you risk being deemed incompetent and recalled to the Obamabutt factory for reprogramming.

  • apishapa

    I think he gets paid according to how many times he repeats the same post. That’s why he numbers them. Though, I don’t think he can count.

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott

    Yeah that will work but dickhead works too.

  • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

    Just because the average Obamabutt’s mind is so easily controlled that infinitely repeating something will cause it to believe, you should not mistakenly think this true of adults. I understand, though, that you need to earn a little extra money for the koolaid to which you have become addicted, and it is really kind of Obama to provide an after-school program and hire you to do this, even though it just convinces more and more people what a race-baiting disaster he would be as President. At least it keeps you off the streets.

  • Helen McCombs

    That is true among the lower class Africian Americians who are actually proud of both. They are voting for him for racial pride and THEY accept my decision to vote for Her. The middle class voters will not go to Hillary or so they say.
    Helen from Pittsburgh

  • Helen McCombs

    I see your $5 and I raise you $5 so I will just donate $10.
    Helen from Pittsburgh

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    12.
    This is fun!
    Okay…so…if we vote for Hillary because she’s white, we’re not racist. We’re racial. You heard it from Vince, everyone. We’re not racists.

  • http://www.illusionofjoy.net Seth Warren

    Oh, good…it’s so much better to be a racial than a racist…

  • karen for Clinton

    lmao

    hysterical comeback susan.

    touche’

  • workingclass artist

    Helen….I was simply enjoying the discussion because I think it is an important one….I do believe that Obama’s campaign is playing the Race card because it is the only way he could gain an advantage…I am a committed Clinton Supporter and frankly I have voted for qualified AA and other minority candidates locally….I find it offensive when folks toss terms without understanding the meaning of the term…
    I do not pretend to ” know ” the experience of AA prejudice in this country…That would be presumptuos of me although I’m not ignorant of the issue…
    That being said….I have experienced prejudice and descrimination based on my religion…race…gender…social class…age…
    Just tryin to clear things up….Think this is a healthy discussion…I’m just sayin’ criticism is a learning experience and your criticism has been respectfully noted….