Comments on: The President’s Doctor of 22 Years Disses Obamacare http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/ Sun, 27 May 2012 08:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: DCMediagirl http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221478 DCMediagirl Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:22:29 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221478 Funny. The last time I went to a doctor she charged me $650 for an office visit. I have a friend whose dentist is charging her $43,000 to fix her teeth. Yes, that figure is correct. No, I'm not leaving out a decimal point. $43,000. The last time I went to the dentist he charged me over over $2000 to have two teeth pulled - a procedure that took him all of five minutes. So pardon me if I don't cry a river for these doctors. Funny. The last time I went to a doctor she charged me $650 for an office visit. I have a friend whose dentist is charging her $43,000 to fix her teeth. Yes, that figure is correct. No, I’m not leaving out a decimal point. $43,000. The last time I went to the dentist he charged me over over $2000 to have two teeth pulled – a procedure that took him all of five minutes. So pardon me if I don’t cry a river for these doctors.

]]> By: Ani http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221379 Ani Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:31:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221379 Howard Dean DID want the position very much -- that was made public. And if Hillary is being consulted then why are none of her policy proposals (that she put forth in the primary and that were lauded by Krugman and others) not being used at all. This is something that has been near and dear to her heart for nearly 20 years. She has learned from her mistakes and certainly has a lot to offer. Teddy wanted her out of the way -- he wants this for his baby. Do you see her name on anything regarding this? Howard Dean DID want the position very much — that was made public. And if Hillary is being consulted then why are none of her policy proposals (that she put forth in the primary and that were lauded by Krugman and others) not being used at all. This is something that has been near and dear to her heart for nearly 20 years. She has learned from her mistakes and certainly has a lot to offer. Teddy wanted her out of the way — he wants this for his baby. Do you see her name on anything regarding this?

]]> By: bone http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221334 bone Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:49:48 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221334 Not sure anyone is rushing into anything. The Democrats and their experts have been thinking about ways to reform healthcare for years. McCain is full of shit. He has nothing to add here. The trillion dollar number is not entirely correct, as it does not take into consideration the potential for costs be significantly lowered with a public option, which would have big bargain power to take costs down. How do you know that Howard Dean himself may not have wanted the HHS position and how do you know that Hillary is not being consulted on healthcare? Healthcare is a big rip-off in this country. Not sure anyone is rushing into anything. The Democrats and their experts have been thinking about ways to reform healthcare for years.

McCain is full of shit. He has nothing to add here.

The trillion dollar number is not entirely correct, as it does not take into consideration the potential for costs be significantly lowered with a public option, which would have big bargain power to take costs down.

How do you know that Howard Dean himself may not have wanted the HHS position and how do you know that Hillary is not being consulted on healthcare?

Healthcare is a big rip-off in this country.

]]> By: tango http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221325 tango Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:16:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221325 Well if he has truly known President Obama for 20 years then he's one of the few. Well, let me rephrase that. He's one of the few who hasn't (yet) been thrown under a bus when it became convenient for Obama to do so. I figure if the doctor keeps spouting off negatives about Obamas medical plan, then he too will be feeling the tires go round and round. At least P-BO is consistent at throwing people under the bus who don't reflect well on him or who become political liabilities. Well if he has truly known President Obama for 20 years then he’s one of the few. Well, let me rephrase that. He’s one of the few who hasn’t (yet) been thrown under a bus when it became convenient for Obama to do so. I figure if the doctor keeps spouting off negatives about Obamas medical plan, then he too will be feeling the tires go round and round.

At least P-BO is consistent at throwing people under the bus who don’t reflect well on him or who become political liabilities.

]]> By: jbjd http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221310 jbjd Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:08:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221310 I hadn't considered how we 'know' Dr. Scheiner has been BO's physician for 20 years. I hadn’t considered how we ‘know’ Dr. Scheiner has been BO’s physician for 20 years.

]]> By: hinterlands http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221296 hinterlands Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:14:38 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221296 Obamas doctor ? You mean that dr. that just said in the article that he has been treating barry for 22 years. And after 22 years, that same dr. only submitted a one page document on his health for the record ? typical barry bullshit. Everthing about Obama is fraudulent including his phony doctor in this article. purple lips flapping in the wind everyday. We should demand that he submit a chest exray for our perusal.....just saying Obamas doctor ? You mean that dr. that just said in the article that he has been treating barry for 22 years. And after 22 years, that same dr. only submitted a one page document on his health for the record ? typical barry bullshit. Everthing about Obama is fraudulent including his phony doctor in this article. purple lips flapping in the wind everyday. We should demand that he submit a chest exray for our perusal…..just saying

]]> By: jbjd http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221294 jbjd Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:12:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221294 Except, in the U.S., we use tort suits to compel business to internalize their externalities. For example, Ford manufactured the Pinto knowing its faulty fuel tank design would result in deaths but decided after a cost/benefit analysis it would be cheaper to pay settlements on those cases brought than to fix the design. When a jury saw those documents, they awarded damages of $125,000,000. http://www.wfu.edu/~palmitar/Law&Valuation/Papers/1999/Leggett-pinto.html Except, in the U.S., we use tort suits to compel business to internalize their externalities. For example, Ford manufactured the Pinto knowing its faulty fuel tank design would result in deaths but decided after a cost/benefit analysis it would be cheaper to pay settlements on those cases brought than to fix the design. When a jury saw those documents, they awarded damages of $125,000,000.
http://www.wfu.edu/~palmitar/Law&Valuation/Papers/1999/Leggett-pinto.html

]]> By: jbjd http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221288 jbjd Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:01:57 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221288 Most states have enacted laws that require prospective Plaintiffs in a medical malpractice suit to obtain authorization from an independent medical panel, before their suit can proceed. Most states have enacted laws that require prospective Plaintiffs in a medical malpractice suit to obtain authorization from an independent medical panel, before their suit can proceed.

]]> By: texaslatina http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221287 texaslatina Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:01:30 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221287 thanks again ani for sharin your knowledge with us! you're the bestest! thanks again ani for sharin your knowledge with us! you’re the bestest!

]]> By: A-Nony-Mouse http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221286 A-Nony-Mouse Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:59:28 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221286 Did you miss the part about the doctor liking and supporting Obama? The doctor is simply saying he wants more than just a "public option" - he wants full fledged universal single payer health care. I agree with him. But I also understand the political reason that Obama is doing what he's doing. And ... I think it's possible that what Obama is doing will lead to single payer - or something very close to it - eventually. Did you miss the part about the doctor liking and supporting Obama? The doctor is simply saying he wants more than just a “public option” – he wants full fledged universal single payer health care. I agree with him. But I also understand the political reason that Obama is doing what he’s doing. And … I think it’s possible that what Obama is doing will lead to single payer – or something very close to it – eventually.

]]> By: jbjd http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221285 jbjd Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:58:08 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221285 Want to compare health care systems in 5 capitalist democracies around the world? Watch Frontline, "Sick Around the World." http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/ Want to compare health care systems in 5 capitalist democracies around the world? Watch Frontline, “Sick Around the World.”
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/

]]> By: arran http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221282 arran Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:54:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221282 0bama's number one fan, Ted Kennedy, 77 years old, wants to accomplish his legislative goal of universal healthcare. To please Teddy is 0bama's second reason, after readying himself for the next election. Kennedy is the person who January '08, when he was endorsing 0bama, said it was "...time again for a new generation of leadership". We boomers will unquestionably have a say about more generation shifting, like we did with the NOW election of Terry O'Neill. 0bama’s number one fan, Ted Kennedy, 77 years old, wants to accomplish his legislative goal of universal healthcare. To please Teddy is 0bama’s second reason, after readying himself for the next election.

Kennedy is the person who January ’08, when he was endorsing 0bama, said it was “…time again for a new generation of leadership”. We boomers will unquestionably have a say about more generation shifting, like we did with the NOW election of Terry O’Neill.

]]> By: Docelder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221258 Docelder Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:55:34 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221258 He bastardizes and uses every hope and dream that people have to his own end. Nothing good will probably come from anything he touches. But, we do need comprehensive health care reform nonetheless. He bastardizes and uses every hope and dream that people have to his own end. Nothing good will probably come from anything he touches. But, we do need comprehensive health care reform nonetheless.

]]> By: Docelder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221257 Docelder Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:49:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221257 Limit the percentage take to 25% and make the loser of egregious lawsuits pay all attorney and court costs. Right now, a lawyer can file a suit for a little over $100 and the opposing side has to pay thousands in a retainer just to have an attorney look at it for them. There is no reason not to file frivolous suits, in fact the high cost of legal fees makes filing them lucrative because just the filing of them prompts a settlement offer to make the suit go away in many cases because of the cost involved in being "right". Limit the percentage take to 25% and make the loser of egregious lawsuits pay all attorney and court costs. Right now, a lawyer can file a suit for a little over $100 and the opposing side has to pay thousands in a retainer just to have an attorney look at it for them. There is no reason not to file frivolous suits, in fact the high cost of legal fees makes filing them lucrative because just the filing of them prompts a settlement offer to make the suit go away in many cases because of the cost involved in being “right”.

]]> By: politicalidentitycrisis http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26520/the-president%e2%80%99s-doctor-of-22-years-disses-obamacare/#comment-1221256 politicalidentitycrisis Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:48:36 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=26520#comment-1221256 Yes, the union exception seems to be more payback for the unions helping him get elected and it seems rather illegal to me. Yes, the union exception seems to be more payback for the unions helping him get elected and it seems rather illegal to me.

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