“The festering is over, this is a declared war.” (Video Update.)

Great news! Go Florida!

I couldn’t believe the story was coming from CNN. Toobin put it very well. This is a case where Barack Obama needs to show some leadership. Let’s see it. Now.

Clinton lied. She pledged not to campaign in Florida, and did just the opposite.

[...] Crossposted at No Quarter. [...]

And Nevada.

Rasmussen Reports:

Clinton 46% – McCain 41%

Obama 40% – McCain 46%

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/nevada/election_2008_nevada_presidential_election

And Nevada.

That can’t be true. Obamama has “Western Magic”. Lord Axelrod told me so!!!!

Good news for the voters of Florida! Donna racist Brazile should be fired from any association with the DNC. I understand that it was Donna racist Brazile who forced through this penalty.

I’m hoping that Clinton has some of her toughest junk yard fighters working on her behalf. This is war — the Chicago political machine has got to be stopped.

Look. It’s simple. I live in Florida. If Barack fights to disenfranchise my vote in the primary, he is not going to get it in the general. What goes around, comes around. Period.

1. The DNC disenfranchised your vote, not Barack Obama. Stick to the facts.

2. You’re going to punish the Democratic party because you didn’t get your way? How… infantile. I’m sure McCain appreciates the help.

Only reason Obama is on the losing end there is because of… petulant sore loser Clinton-voters. Way to go!

Show an example, Scott. Prove to me you aren’t simply a mindless drone. And before you try and go there, attending a Victory Rally after the polls close is not campaigning.

We’re waiting. Put the cue sheet down and do a little research.

+ crickets +

Obama, however, did campaign in BOTH Michigan and Florida. He ran phone banks in Michigan (“Obama supporters should vote “uncommitted”), and cable TV ads in Florida.

Your “liar” is your lord.

Ob has had a lose-lose choice all along regarding the two states when every option came up.

That Brazile tried to turn it into a caucus is the unveiling of the entire scheme to annoint him.

If he had let the votes count Hillary would have won.

If he let the revote happen Hillary would have won.

That he stood in the way and bamboozled the democratic voters of two states will lead to a victory for McCain.

The only thing that will save the party is to have the superdelegates do their jobs and chose the right person for the job of president.

The road to the white house is a long hard path for a reason, it is crucial as we found out in 2000 to count every single vote. They have no other option.

The solidarity of voters goes way beyond those two states and the eyes of the world will be watching on May 31st.

Ob will lose no matter what, he has proven he cannot stand the heat of the kitchen and should get out.

The funny thing is if they enforce the rules he gets zero votes for both states. Hope they hand him his walking papers and tell him to get out of dodge.

Annie Oakley nailed him every step of the way.

Wanna rate Obama? Go to Definition No. 2 and give it a thumbs up rating.

To summarise:

waaa, waaa, waaa, if my candidate isnt nominated I will torpedo yours.

How very Clinton.

“Clinton”; In its verb form “Clinton” refers to using the threat of collateral damage to impose your will on a democratic process. For example “If you dont crown me Queen, I will Clinton your ass”.

The verb arose during the 2008 Democratic Nomination when Hillary Clinton, upon discovering the nomination for President wasnt given to her as a formality in the form of a coronation, undertook a devastating and cynical campaign to steal the election from the front runner Barak Obama. Her strategy involved exploiting the easily fooled, poorly educated, “hard working” Americans and spinning lies that play to these people’s racial fears.

A typical ploy might be to stress Barak Obama’s middle name (Hussein) to infer some Muslim connection to this devout Christian.

Another popular tactic was to continously move the goal post to spin a win from what was a rejection by the majority of the voters. For example, claiming a popular vote lead by taking credit for elections in which her name was the only one on the ballot AND ignoring elections in which your opponent won (for other examples of this form of “democracy” please refer to Sadam Hussein, Robert Mugabe)

The candidate for President is elected only at the convention. Before that anything can happen. And the calls for Hillary to drop out only show the desperation on the part of the Obots. If they can’t even show the intestinal fortitude to see the democratic primary fight to its logical conclusion, how are they going to fare in the genertal election if Obama wins the nomination?
Are they going to whine through September and October that Sen McCain is not conceding the Presidential Election if the opinion polls show McCain trailing Obama?

I agree. All those calls for her to drop out before anyone has won … all those calls for her to drop out AND the disenfranchisement of two of her states ….

There is definately an agenda.
Neil Cavuto was correct.

And the Obamatrons are not bright enough to see that they are just tools for someone else. (or they are so racist that they don’t care)

The State of Florida has put together at least two plans to revote. The DNC was behind both of them. So was Senator Clinton. Guess who said NO? So, in fact, it is OBAMA WHO SAID FUCK YOU FLORIDA. AND THEY HEAR HIM. So punishing him by withholding their vote is the only way they know to send a message. He needs to show leadership. Do you get it? Try doing some research instead of sticking to your troll talking points. You’d at least SOUND smart even if you aren’t.

One of the suggested methods was a vote by mail. Which he said he would challenge with the justice department. Is he challenging the Oregon vote by mail with the justice department? No. Because he won in Oregon. He’s just a poor loser. And a spoiled brat. Face it.

No … to summarise … we will not vote for that sexist-racist pig who lies and does nothing except give speeches. Period.

And as far as him being a ‘good christian’ … (gag) … you’ve never read what so-called Black Liberation Theology is, have you? Go read James Cones book and then get back to us about ‘good christianity’. ‘Black Liberation Theology’ is NOT Christian. It pretends to be but it isn’t.

Oh, and we don’t have to ‘infer some muslim connection’. He was raised muslim. The Woods Foundation that he was on made sure radical muslims got $$$. His cousins in Africa are all Muslim. His grandmother is muslim even though Obama claims otherwise. His Muslim grandfather had 14 wives.

I don’t begrudge anyone who wants to be muslim, but for you to infer that there is not a muslim connection is just plain wrong.

actually you are incorrect. it was Obama who broke the rules and campaigned in florida.

100,000 sperm and YOU were the fastest?

please fire brazile…she is totally inept and downright unethical.

Sorry to keep posting this but it must get out….

Rule 11.A. of the Delegate Selection Rules for the 2008 Democratic National Convention states the following:
11. TIMING OF THE DELEGATE SELECTION PROCESS
A. No meetings, caucuses, conventions or primaries which constitute the first determining stage in the presidential nomination process (the date of the primary in primary states, and the date of the first tier caucus in caucus states) may be held prior to the first Tuesday in February or after the second Tuesday in June in the calendar year of the national convention. Provided, however, that the Iowa precinct caucuses may be held no earlier than 22 days before the first Tuesday in February; that the Nevada first-tier caucuses may be held no earlier than 17 days before the first Tuesday in February; that the New Hampshire primary may be held no earlier than 14 days before the first Tuesday in February; and that the South Carolina primary may be held no earlier than 7 days before the first Tuesday in February. In no instance may a state which scheduled delegate selection procedures on or between the first Tuesday in February and the second Tuesday in June 1984 move out of compliance with the provisions of this rule.

We already know that Florida and Michigan violated Rule 11.A. by moving their primaries to a date before the first Tuesday in February. There is no argument there, but what about Iowa, New Hampshire, and yes, South Carolina too.

Rule 11.A specifically set the date for the primaries & caucuses for those three states as “no earlier than 22 days before the first Tuesday in February” (Iowa), “no earlier than 14 days before the first Tuesday in February” (New Hampshire), and “no earlier than 7 days before the first Tuesday in February” (South Carolina).
Iowa held their caucuses on January 3rd. That’s more than 22 days before the first Tuesday in February. New Hampshire held their primary on January 8th. That’s more than 17 days before the first Tuesday in February. And South Carolina held their primary on January 26th. That’s more than 7 days before the first Tuesday in February.

Under Rule 11.A., five states were in violation of the Democratic National Committee’s Delegate Selection Rules, and as such, all five states should have been punished under Rule 20.C.1.a.

Violation of timing: In the event the Delegate Selection Plan of a state party provides or permits a meeting, caucus, convention or primary which constitutes the first determining stage in the presidential nominating process to be held prior to or after the dates for the state as provided in Rule 11 of these rules, or in the event a state holds such a meeting, caucus, convention or primary prior to or after such dates, the number of pledged delegates elected in each category allocated to the state pursuant to the Call for the National Convention shall be reduced by fifty (50%) percent, and the number of alternates shall also be reduced by fifty (50%) percent. In addition, none of the members of the Democratic National Committee and no other unpledged delegate allocated pursuant to Rule 8.A. from that state shall be permitted to vote as members of the state’s delegation. In determining the actual number of delegates or alternates by which the state’s delegation is to be reduced, any fraction below .5 shall be rounded down to the nearest whole number, and any fraction of .5 or greater shall be rounded up to the next nearest whole number.

Yes, you read that right; under Rule 20.C.1.a., Florida, Iowa, Michigan, New Hampshire, and South Carolina would have all lost their super delegates and had their pledged delegates reduced by half since they all violated Rule 11.A.

However, Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina weren’t punished fairly. In fact, they weren’t punished at all.
And what about Florida & Michigan?
Well, we all know what happened to them.

Instead of strictly adhering to Rule 20.C.1.a. and reducing their pledged delegates by 50%, the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee decided to take it a step further. The DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee exercised the authority granted to them by Rules 20.C.5. and 20.C.6. which allowed them to “impose sanctions the Committee deems appropriate.” And what were those sanctions the Committee deemed appropriate? Stripping two of the largest states in the union of all their votes at the 2008 Democratic National Convention.

Ladies & Gentlemen, this is what happens when the rules aren’t applied equally and fairly. And as I said before, this mess is a result of the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee not applying the rules equally and fairly.
So, the next time someone starts talking about the rules, might I suggest two courses of action:

1.) Read the damn rules first!
-and-
2.) Let them know that the rules were bent to allow for Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina to keep their preferred first-in-the-nation status.

Did anyone watch CNN this am? Some Karen T?? lady was on saying Clinton is negotiating with BO and will be dropping out if her criteria is met. Did anyone else hear it? It is true or more of the same bullshit?

bo has said quite adamantly F U to both MI and FL…get your facts stright

Gee. If you want MARXIST voting systems where people have to vote as you say they do, get the hell out of AMERICA …. you punk.

brazile is a WITCH – I hope she never works again!

There’s always a place for someone hateful like Donna. Ann Coulter gets work after all ….

We need more of this:

Well Now, There’s A Switch!
May 22nd, 2008 8:24 pm

For the first time, a Superdelegate that had been leaning towards Obama has switched to Clinton. Guam Democratic Party Chair Pilar Lujan has endorsed Clinton after indicating that she would support Obama when he won the Guam caucus by 7 votes.

“After taking a close look at the candidates in this race, I was more impressed by Senator Clinton’s ability to meet the challenges of the presidency: end the war, re-invigorate the economy, and provide universal health care,” said Lujan. “When she becomes the first woman president, she will think of the people of Guam and their aspirations.”

This is a good sign. This race is not over by a long shot. While Pilar Lujan did not mention the Electoral Map in her decision to endorse Clinton and back away from her previous stance of supporting Obama, I would have to believe that polling data from North Carolina, Florida, Missouria and Pennsylvania in the past week that have Clinton beating McCain in those states also had Obama losing to McCain might have also played a role in her decision.

OBAMA IS A FASCIST…WAY TO GO FLORIDA !….ALL THE WAY TO DENVER

*** Ummm….So How many lawsuits does this make againstthe DNC ? ***

OBAMA…DISPLAYS TYPICAL FASCIST BEHAVIOR….methinks…

Did I just hear Jeffrey Toobin say that this is a problem for Obama? Did Jeffrey Toobin, who has pandered for Obama incessantly actually suggest that a real leader would be working to solve this problem?

Well then, take a look at who is showing that suggested leadership. And it ain’t Obama. But Toobin was very careful not to say that Senator Clinton is showing the leadership that Obama is not. What a surprise. NOT!

You may say that Clinton tells lies — all politicians do. However, “Barack Obama is himself a lie. That is becoming painfully apparent with each new revelation of how drastically his carefully crafted image this election year contrasts with what he has actually been saying and doing for many years.

Sen. Obama’s election year image is that of a man who can bring the country together, overcoming differences of party or race, as well as solving our international problems by talking with Iran and other countries with which we are at odds, and performing other miscellaneous miracles as needed.

There is, of course, not a speck of evidence that Obama has ever transcended party differences in the United States Senate. Voting records analyzed by the National Journal show him to be the furthest left of anyone in the Senate. Nor has he sponsored any significant bipartisan legislation-nor any other significant legislation, for that matter.

Sen. Obama is all talk – glib talk, exciting talk, confident talk, but still just talk.

…

Like so many others on the left, Obama rejects “stereotypes” when they are stereotypes he doesn’t like but blithely throws around his own stereotypes about a “typical white person” or “bitter” gun-toting, religious and racist working-class people…”

Excerpts from an op-ed by Thomas Sowell in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review on April 20, 2008 (days before the PA primary).

What’s remarkable about this is that not only is it true, but this newspaper is owned by Richard Scaife Mellon, who was one of the chief financiers of the Republican attack machine that mercilessly grilled the Clintons during their White House tenure. This same newspaper has endorsed Senator Clinton in the race for the White House.

It’s nice to know that there are people out there with enough of their own money and political influence, who can’t be bought by Obama’s dirty, Chicago-style crooked politics, who will give the rest of us glimpses of the truth every so often.

ID IMPERFECTUM MANET DUM CONFECTUM ERIT….no ?
( It ain’t over….till it’s over )

*** ALL THE WAY TO DENVER ***

Saw this at talk left.

Saturday, May 17, 2008
Obama Met Secretly With Shady Imam in Michigan This Week

Barack Obama met secretly with a controversial Imam this week in Michigan.
Imam Hassan Qazwini has hosted Louis Farrakhan at his mosque and is close to the Hezbollah Spiritual Leader who issued the fatwa to blow up 300 U.S. Marines and embassy officials in 1983.

Imam Hassan Qazwini, head of the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, met privately with Sen. Barack Obama at Macomb Community College on May 14, 2008. (Detroit Free Press)

Imam Hassan Qazwini met privately with Senator Barack Obama this week in Michigan.
The Detroit Free Press reported:

A Muslim leader from Dearborn met privately with Sen. Barack Obama during his Wednesday visit to Michigan.

Imam Hassan Qazwini, head of the Islamic Center of America, said in an email that he met with Obama at Macomb Community College. A mosque spokesman, Eide Alawan, confirmed that the meeting took place. During the meeting, the two discussed the Presidential election, the Arab-Israeli conflict, and the Iraq war, according to Qazwini.

At the end of the meeting, Qazwini said he gave Obama a copy of new book, “American Crescent,” (his book on why Islam is good for America) and invited Obama to visit his center.

The meeting with Obama came about after Qazwini had asked David Bonior, the former U.S. Rep. from Michigan, if he could meet with Obama during his visit. Qazwini was not selected to be part of a group of 20 people who met with Obama, but Qazwini later got a private meeting with Obama, Alawan said.
Hat Tip Banafsheh Zand Bonazzi

Debbie Schlussel wrote about Imam Hassan Qazmini and saw Farrakhan speak at his mosque in 1998:

In 1998, the mosque–then in Detroit–was the first mosque to which I went undercover. I wrote about it in The Detroit Newsistan, before the paper became Muslim-occupied territory under such boneheaded individuals as editorial page editor Nolan Dhimmi Finley. At the time, the mosque hosted Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who delivered a long hate-filled rant against Jews and Christians (and in praise of Saddam Hussein). When Farrakhan called Jewish Americans “forces of evil” with a “Satanic mentality.” Imam Qazwini and his congregants gave him a standing ovation. That’s not to mention that the Imam and other Muslim officials introduced Farrakhan as “our dear brother” and “a freedom fighter.”
Imam Hassan Qazwini has met with the Spiritual leader of Hezbollah:

Imam Hassan Qazwini(right) meets with Hezbollah Spiritual Leader Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah. (This photo is posted at DebbieSchlussel.com)

Debbie Schlussel wonders what Obama is doing hanging out with Hezbollah’s Iranian Agent Imam in Michigan?

Iranian Human Rights activist Banafsheh Zand Bonazzi wrote to add this on the meeting:

Here we have one of the most unnoticed Mullah promoters, someone who is allegedly a member of the Mullahs secret agent network (VEVAK), now living in the U.S. and said to be working in brainwashing people in Dearborn, on behalf of the terrorist regime of Iran, meeting with Obama. I would bet my bottom dollar that he has a message from his presumed bosses in Tehran for this Democrat candidate. But how come this isn’t being reported more widely?!

All my best to them. I hope this will be worked out so that no voter is left out of the process. None of this was their fault. The primary was moved, because of an act by the legislature of Florida. What were they supposed to do? Stay home and not vote? And then their voices still wouldn’t be heard, and they would still be left out of the process.
If the DNC doesn’t resolve this fairly, the Democratic party will pay dearly in November. No amount of schmoozing on any politicians’ part will make those voters forget how they were screwed over by the party leadership in order to nominate their chosen one. You’d better believe that the GOP won’t let them forget it. The GOP will runs ads 24/7 reminding the voters of Florida that Barack Obama stood in opposition to their votes being counted so not to jeopardize his front-runner status for the nomination.

More on this at STOP OBAMA

http://www.stop-obama.org/

I think V will punish the Democratic party because it refuses to count her vote. Sounds reasonable to me.

Also, rate Definition No. 1 as a “Thumbs down” so it will become rated No. 2 and Obama will be “catapulted” (as Dubya would say) into No. 1.

Clearly, drinking the BO Kool-aid makes you spew the same ole talking points. Talking points that include veiled insults to the “easily fooled”, must-be-racist people who didn’t vote for BO, reminders to people that Hussein is BO’s middle name and not-so-veiled suggestions that christianity is better, and a really confusing notion of “moving the goalposts.” The math is the math, as bots always say. How could those goalposts change? Despite what bots think, any accountant can tell you the math is the math. Until it isn’t.

When the decision was made to take away all of the delegates, I don’t think anyone imagined it would be such a close race. At this point, it is obvious the rules committee made some very poor choices.

If Obama becomes the nominee and Clinton supporters believe he did so by gaming the caucuses and disenfranchising the voters of Michigan and Florida, he will pay a price in November. So, people can continue to argue that the rules are the rules, but they need to realize those rules come with some serious repercussions. (And, has anyone noticed that the same people who argue the rules are the rules with respect to Florida and Michigan are the ones trying to circumvent the convention and the rules which say a nominee is not legitimate until then?)

Right now, the party just seems to be on the wrong side of the argument. Not counting votes just doesn’t seem to be very “democratic.” Punishing voters for decisions beyond their control doesn’t seem fair or respectful. Preventing candidates from campaigning in states that will be important in the general also doesn’t seem to have been a prudent decision.

You guys try this every day…it’s so transparent.

I was struck by that comment too. Excellent point.

Senator Clinton has certainly made her stand clear (all the votes should be counted). Has Obama made HIS stance on this publicly clear?

He doesn’t know what “moving the goalposts” means, he’s just heard it 3000 times on cable and Air America radio and his job is, after all, to bleat talking points here.

“Moving the Goalposts” means “changing the definition of victory to benefit one candidate.” You know, like claiming in February that Superdelegates are bad, then crowing in May about how you’ve taken the lead in Superdelegates. Or declaring that said Superdelegates must obey the will of the people in their own states and districts in February, then trying to draw political capital out of endorsements by Kerry, Kennedy, Byrd, Waxman, Richardson, etc. etc. even though their states and districts went for the other candidate. Or insisting that New Hampshire is the endgame, no wait it’s California, no wait it’s Ohio and Texas, well for sure Indiana is the “tiebreaker,” no wait…..

Of course, the only candidate who has consistently “moved the goalposts” is Barack Obama, but why quibble?

Nice job, you get a gold star!

And THAT is why Obama should be showing some leadership regarding this problem. Way, way, overdue.

Ok, that was kinda funny.

Good for you, Obamabot!

Yes they are so redundant!

For example, claiming a popular vote lead by taking credit for elections in which her name was the only one on the ballot AND ignoring elections in which your opponent won (for other examples of this form of “democracy” please refer to Sadam Hussein, Robert Mugabe)

If you are going to quote Randi Rhodes verbatim, you ought to at least cite the source.

And could you explain to me why we cannot include Hillary victories in which Obama’s name was not on the ballot? Who chose to keep his name off the ballot in those states (only one, actually?) Should we also not include states where Hillary won by a certain margin, because the margin indicates Obama didn’t TRY to win there? That argument has never made even the slightest amount of sense.

The worst part is, the argument comes from people who are perfectly happy to use “estimated” vote totals from caucus states. I’m sure you’d have no problem with “estimated” votes in Presidential, Congressional, Mayoral, State Legislative, etc. races too. The FACT is, we don’t KNOW how many people voted in the caucuses, and that’s nobody’s fault except the state which chose to hold them. All we are left to go on is the CERTIFIED vote in the primary states- and Hillary is well ahead in those.

Obama show leadership? The oxymoron poster child!

If you even care, how should a politician who has legally won an election, like Gore, like Clinton, fight when the election is stolen through fraud and outright deceit.

IS it OK?

What if, hypothetically, Chinese money were behind Obama, or even Al Queda money, and it was being used against the American government, simply because a group of selfish politicians were afraid of jail, or were so simplistically narcissistic, they saw no greater issue with doing the bidding of a foreign agent, in regard to our government?

This is plausible, isn’t it in our better interests, yours, too, to maintain the integrity of our elections, our government, our court system?

People see what Obama, and Cheney, too, are doing.

Like the republicans, all he can do is recite talking points, and feel GOD is on his side.

He cannot understand, or argue the relevance, he simply IS NOT smart enough.

Really.

And he can’t spot a troll, either.

It’s somebody is trying to ruin the Democratic Party from within.

either that, or . . .

Most of the portion of the boomer generation now running the USA is really f’ed up.

Actually, I think it’s both.

And it isn’t that Tehran is really a threat, ahem, but that Obama would do this, and a POS like Dean would rationalize it, is, oh, well, so absurd it’s funny.

But it has to stop.

Hallucinating in public must be embarrassing.

Take your meds now, and I don’t mean arsenic laced kool-aid, no chasers.

I think while that group of boomer is f’ed up, other boomers are among the best this country has ever, ever produced.

And I agree with you, but I’d look at the republicans, too.

They really aren’t doing well, either.

Sammie listen to yesterday’s conference call. You will find solace and inspiration!

After listening to the call yesterday I became confident the voters will do very well now with the committee. And as a result Hillary will be catapulted to a fight with Obama at the convention. And we all know what a chickenshit he is. He can’t even stand on stage anymore and debate Hillary.

I am even MORE confident after watching to the Lou Dobbs Video.

If anyone knows Flineo, can they get a message to him? The message:

I suggest making the noquarterusa.net part of the logo much larger, and add a slogan, and run this 3-4 times longer. Maybe:

No Quarter
noquarterusa.net
Fighting for democracy!

Some kind of slogan driving people here.

Geller’s letter is very powerful as is his argument. And what Toobin said about the responsibility being Obama’s was brilliant. Where are the Messiah’s magical powers when someone actually asks him to demonstrate them? The only magical power I have witnessed from Obama is his innate ability to turn smoke into mirrors.

Hillary is now taking Nevada by 5 points over McCain, while Obama loses by 5.

The NYT is pimping an Obama/Clinton ticket.

Clinton cannot save that guy.
His ONLY hope is as her VP for 8 years.

Then he’ll have built national creds and trust.

At this point, he’s too close in time to Rezko, Wright, Ayres and disdain for working people.

Great piece, thanks for putting it together.

money+media=Obama
people+democracy=Hillary

Sorry , you’re not going to see any leadership from this dude!! He needs several runningmates to cover all his deficiencies including his leadership.
We need only one candidate that encompases all the talents and that is HILLARY CLINTON. America deserve her.

Marxist Barack Obama: WhatEVER will you do?????????

This is not true, this ia a lie! in fact it was Obama who put ads in TV all over Florida. Hillary stayed with the rules and did not campaign there, but Obama broke the rule.
Are you one of the paid blogers hired by Obama?

Obama is the one guilty of breaking his pledge not to campaign in Florida. And he does this in a particularly sleazy fashion. See the update to my post.

-V

This is where this all has been leading since the Clinton team of Sosnick, Craig Smith, Maggie Williams and Ickes took over from the catatonic pair of Patty Doylre and Penn.

Since then we have won every state we needed to win – leading by 500,000 votes since feb.

When Obamas lawyer stopped the mi rebote – over the amazing reasoning that it was unfair that those who had already voted in the gop primary couldnt vote AGAIN in the revoted dem primary – I saw this could be their fatal mistake…

IF Hillary was able to win TX,OH,IN,KY, WV…

Well…it seems she has….and since Obama stopped the MI revote – F him – count that state as voted. There can be no “compromise”. The revote was the frigging compromise! Hillary gets ALL her MI delegates and then we fight over the uncommitted!

This was and is the plan folks! The media didnt and dont get it – but this is why she has fought on – bot to maybe be vp as the media mooks keep suggesting – but to get the majority of votes and winning over the SDs.

The media may be with Obarry – but the wind and the tidal change is with US!

…as a former 2004 elected delegate for the State of Florida..if Obama does not count my vote in full for the primary, he will never get my vote in November!

I was one of 10 people that tested our DRE sequoia voting machines after the 2004 presidential election..5 were voters and 5 were verifiers that we voted what the papers said..
I had a machine that swaped the votes ..it was filmed , a reporter was there with the St Pete Times and he watched the swaping going on in my machine..and yet no one reported what happened.

No one ever saw the tape of it. Not even me , even when i was demanding see the tape..i never saw it.

The test was run like doing a real election, everything was timed according to how people in real time vote on the machines.

We had Blind votes to cast ..a stack of papers with votes we were to put into the machines.

the 1st. vote i had was a Kerry vote..it took 3 times to get the Kerry vote to register on the machine..bush kept coming up on the machine

the 2nd. vote i had was a kerry vote..it took 5 times for kerry to register on the machine, Bush kept coming up on the machine 5 times.

the 3rd vote i had was a kerry vote, it took 9 times for kerry to register on the machine, bush kept coming up on the machine, but this time i had the verifyer cast the vote , i over saw him vote..9 times.

The following day the St Pete times reported there were no problems with the testing of the Sequoia Voting machines.

I know two of the citizens who brought about the legislature that banned the DRE voting machines in 15 counties in Fla..one i helped bring into the frey to get these machines out of the state and help me educate people to the disaster these machines are and were to our democracy and our state.

4 citizens who helped write the legislature just recieved the highest award the Florida ACLU gives out this past weekend…for their work in removing these machines from our state elections, and requiring mandated voter verified paper ballots.

There has been a deliberate attempt by people on other web sites to spread disinformation about the DNC ruling and the Bill that banned the Dre Voting machines, and mandate VVPB..i have watched these people spread disinformation on one particular site for approx 1 year..

Why they have chosen to do so i do not know..but i have my suspicions.But it has been a deliberate attempt to muddy the waters..and i just wonder if those people have ties to the DNC and the disinformation has possibly been an attempt to steal a Primary election, or at least manipulate an election.

fly

Well he did manage to cut the Democratic Party into two equal pieces.

The list of people who are rebelling against this Marxist takeover of Democracy is getting longer by the day. This movie is a remake. This time, it is time to toss these left wing nutcases OUT of the party. How many times should we put up with limp wristed left cliff candidates out of fear? In the end they ALWAYS lose. This guy is just another in a long line of useless candidates that get handily rejected by the majority of the party, which always was and always will be MODERATE. These are the crackpots, radicals, old hippies still on the bong and entrapped kids who See nothing but excitement who have kept our party from electing presidents as far back as the late sixties. Two presidents in THIRTY years thanks to these whack jobs who **think** they can threaten the electorate into voting for anouther empty suit. But the most odious of them all is Barack Obama, Marxist pig. His disdain of democracy (and love of the middle east) shows right now as if he pants were down. Obama, you have no clothes! You think you can sidestep democracy. We will not have you in charge of our country.

I give Tubin points for putting the blame on Obama on this issue. He is the stumbling block here. Dean does not want to take the initiative because he does not want Obama supporters to think he is favoring the other candidate. But Obama could easily solve this by saying he is for counting the votes. I made this point more than a few weeks ago against the troll B-Rob. Obama is a coward and lacks leadership and will be rejected because he let it fester for this long and even if he comes around on this issue (after having been scared now).

Uppity, at this point even if Obama comes around to seat them, I am still not giving him my vote — how can we after what he put us through. I want nothing less than Clinton for a nominee at this point. I absolutely will not accept her as a VP (she deserves to be the top of the ticket and no less and further, she has earned the right to pick her own VP). This is still war for the nomination.

I have seen Flineo on hillaryis44.

Wow! thank you for that video testimony — here I was thinking that there was only that accidental press conference and a few national Ads. Ok, this seals it. According to the INFAMOUS Rules, he violated the “no campaign” part and must NOT get ANY delegates. Now how do we get this to Lou Dobbs?

HERE’S THE TOLL-FREE NUMBER TO THE DNC!
1-877-336-7200

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/action/flmidnc/?sc=1860&utm_source=1860&utm_medium=e

Millions of people in Florida and Michigan went to the polls to make their voices heard in the Democratic Presidential primary. They deserve to have their votes count.

The DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee is meeting on May 31 to make a decision about Florida and Michigan. Send a message to the DNC telling them to count the votes and seat Florida and Michigan’s delegates.

sorry things are not posting for me right here..and i am in rush to leave for appointment..please write or call the DNC and let your voice be heard..our votes have to be counted to have a real democracy..

today it is my vote , tommorrow it can and probably will be yours that is stolen..

do something about it now!

fly

Exactly. Obama is quite able to withdraw his insistence on counting or not counting the votes to make it appear he is in better shape than he is.

He’s got the power to do that anytime. If they want to be upset, be upset with Obama.

He thought this was all under the radar and not many people knew the real story.

He was wrong.

I love the part of the video where they say it’s time for Obama to act like a leader and take some leadership on this. Of course he won’t, but it’s about time somebody in the media starts pointing out that Obama is accountable for things.

Obama, in effect, is throwing black voters in Florida under the bus. He has also turned his back on black legislators who have spent the last 7 yrs trying to bring some integrity to Florida elections.

People seem to have this perception of Obama as some great champion for black people, but take a look at his actions and his track record. He showed no leadership when people were living without heat in his district in Chicago and he’s shown no leadership towards the the black voters in Florida. He’s also shown no support towards those black congresspeople who have worked really hard for the past 7 yrs to try and bring integrity to Florida elections.

The right to vote and to have your vote counted is a basic civil right. If Obama was what he claims to be, he would be leading the fight to count Florida.

If Obama wants my vote the very first thing he will have ti do is publicly demand that the Fl and Mi votes and delegates be counted as decided in the primaries. I am not holding my breath waiting for this to happen. Then we can consider the other things he must do. Overall I figure the probability as being slightly less than the probability of the sun rising in the west.

jumping in

GREAT video clip with Dobbs and Toobin!
(CNN has some cracks of light (and truth) starting to break through! Can you see them? YIPPEEEEEEEE!!

Guten Morgan! (or something like that)

I love the NO Quarter plug at the end of these videos too! Coolness!

Even if he is forced to stop circumventing Democracy, he still won’t get my vote. If you can’t trust a man in small things……

Same thing in MI. She even found the money for a revote.

Were you born a fool or did you take courses?

She must be festering this morning.

You CAN NOT FAKE Leadership!!!

Hill has it

Obie doesn’t

McKook is the leader in his own little world.

No more so than Pelosi. There’s a bunch in there who have been downright wicked.

CYN NOooooooooooo! I didn’t hear that!

Obama followers led by their master to spout lies. If she really had – you know the MSM would have been all over it. Go eat some more bugs your master allows you to have for doing his bidding.

Wow! That is really cool news.

A switch to the “dead” candidate.

but now that you mention it…. I did hear (twice) today already that Pres Clinton wants Hillary to TAKE the VP spot if it’s offered.

(why the hell would he be saying that when she’s poised to take the top spot?)

reverse psychology? I can’t keep up.

Barack Obama blocked Florida and Michigan’s revotes. Dean and Brazile helped him do that. He would have been out of the box by now. This is called Circumventing Democracy for a Marxist candidate. He knew he was dead meat in both states. Do not deny it. Everyone who is anyone Knows what he did, especially the people in Florida and Michigan and I’ll be damned if I am going to do another long post on it.

You are wasting your time here with your inaccurate folly. Nobody here fell off the back of a moving truck.

But here’s some entertainment for you, you can watch Barry’s smirking lackies on the Michigan state senate discussing how they stopped the revote from reaching the voting floor and then smirked “It’s good to be in the lead”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om3szT6Cv20&eurl=http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/search?q=tupac

Gee, I guess we are important after all and your comment just will make us run to vote to your master, not.

and yesterday he was telling Jewish leaders in FL synagogue he is totally committed to Israel, yeah right, thus his secret trip to see radical imams who support Farrakhan

Stick to the facts.

Back Atcha.

The Democratic Party???Sheesh! The Democratic left the voters not the othe way around. And, YES, after the DNC had beheaded the voters in MI and FL, Obama did disenfranchise the voters. Obama failed to consent to EVERY compromise put before him – and he was the ONLY one who dissented. And, further more and in addition to that — Obama REFUSED a revote in both FL and MI that was proposed, agreed to by everyone, and paid for by private funds!!!

Lou Dobbs, Geller, Rendel, Nutter and Carville are my new boyfriends.

Boring. I suggest you go back to to the drawing board.

Clinton: She Knew all along.

This law suit is making for some very bad mornings in the Dean, Obama and Brazile homesteads.

obama reverts to type. He got his start in Illinois politics by disenfranchising voters for his opponents.

You’re silly. Everyone knows he refused to compromise to deny her FL and MI.

What’s really silly about this entire mistake on his part is that politics is as much about perception as anything.

Pelosi running around claiming the one with the most delegates has the will of the people when the entire world knows he blocked 2 major states is laughable.

His political persona is going down, down, down everyday he doesn’t step up and do the RIGHT thing, not what is expedient.

He’s now proving exactly what Hillary supporters have been saying all along. This guy is an opportunist, slick, and nothing more than a ratty politician who has no concern for people.

Which is also why Hillary is now beating him in head-to-head polls in even some states he won!

And is also why she picked up 3 SDs this week. Imagine that. He’s announcing arrogantly that he’s won, and she collects SDs.

He’s lost control of the campaign. He’s spiraling fast downward.

And all along he could have stopped it.

You must ignore CNN and MSNBC. They are twittering constantly. They have tried everything under the sun since their screams for her to drop out didn’t work.

Clinton’s criteria is: kiss my ass and count the votes like you did for the other three states who broke the rules. Otherwise, remove all the delegates for the other three states and let’s rock and roll.

These Marxist radicals think they can circumvent democracy. They never learn from past history. Just pests. All of them.

Barack Obama will never be president, even if he continues to cheat his way to the nomination. He’s a loser. He has pissed off so many voting blocks that everytime I try to list them, I forget some.

*hehe…pass the antacids! It makes his nomination entirely illegitimate. He should have compromised. He keeps doubling down on bad decisions, ignoring the message to compromise.

Obama follower must have gotten permission from his master for extra bugs; you are really spouting the lies.

Fact – Obama blocked re-votes in both FL and MI and any other solution except 50/50 split – how magnanimous of your master.

How many times has she been “dead” in the past five months?

It’s been no secret. It was just IN YOUR FACE. They knew people knew what they were up to. They just did what every person who abuses power does: they got careless.

I just love it. LOL* She gets 3 SDs in the week the news media is declaring her down for the count.

Annie Oakley is riding this horse hard!

I’m a boomer and I and all my boomer friends recognize this movie and we are CERTAINLY not going to Play their Obama game.

He would never get my vote.

Expecting BO to show what he does not know is not going to happen.

Leadership is not a quality BO possesses. Taking power kickbacks is.

Anybody check the Caymen Island banking money trail yet? And ya wonder what that vacation in Islands was about?

He wasn’t “wrong”. He was Deliberate. Those two states endangered his coronation. And now his own Chickens Are About To Come Home To Roost.

That was funny….only 100 showed up…In FLORIDA…Ha!

Oh look at the Update on this thread. There’s barky. Why….why….why he’s …campaigning.in.Florida in ….2007. No! Say it isn’t so!

Clinton = 2/3 of the Traditional Democratic Base
Obama = 1/3 of the base since FDR ( AA voters ) and a lot of others who will not be there in NOV.

*** So the Party is not really cut in half…If Obama gets the nomination
there will be approximtely 1/3 of it’s base to support him….***

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE YOUTH VOTE IS NOTORIOUSLY UNRELIABLE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION AS HISTORY HAS SHOWN…

In the spirit of internet confessions…I AM BARACK MARXIST OBAMA…
I will revert to the excellent solutions as outlined in both Mao’s little red book and throw in a few fascist moves as well by Adolf and the Gang…
Ya’ll line up now and when the bullets fly try to fall neatly in the pit…mkay

Hey! He was in Tampa just this week! Only this time he had to dodge being pelted with oranges! Demonstrations you say?????? Count Our Votes Group?????

Did he go to Miami? I hear the Cubans down there are just dying to pelt him now that he wants to French Kiss with Castro’s brother.

Great U-Tubes……..THANKS!

I must say that I really enjoy this method of getting out the real story. I knew he held fundraisers. That was allowed. I had no idea his was a phony fundraiser. LOL*

Loved the marching band. Thanks!

Hmmm….I am from Barry’s generation…DAZED AND CONFUSED…I would’nt vote for anyone from my generation…we need more seasoning…THE 80′S WERE TOO GOOD TO US…if you catch my drift..
** Obama is a criminal….most of the rest of us are well…forget it **

Typical, just as Lou described it, Snobami can’t provide the leadership he so claims to have…

You seem to represent Snobami very well Scott…

Excellent…though not surprised…FASCISTS HATE JEWS…NO…Really ?

Please tell me you got that as fact. Brazilla really shouldn’t exist…

I like Geller no nonsense attitude. He is articulate, sharp and to the point.

Good for Floridians to have such a good representative.

What a disgrace Dean, Brazile and Pelosi are for the DNC.

I don’t like Tobin but, he is right about Obama “this is no the middle east” and Obama has shown no leadership on this issue.

The DNC are behaving like true donkeys following Obama’s cue. So, think about it: based on the mess the DNC and Obama propagate about FL &MI; how will they govern if Obama is the nominee?

The DNC will follow the same incompetent and disatrous cue for 4 years but at a national and international level. This is dangerous.

We need a leader, we need HRC and we need her also to clean up the DNC leadership. This is one of the reasons Dean, Brazile and Pelosi are holding on so hard onto Obama: becaus ethey know that if HRC wins she will kick their asses to the moon.

If you consider a victory party in Davie after the primary was over I guess you would be correct.

Oh, got careless. That I can believe. That Toobin or anyone else in the Obamacrat Misogynist Party had found just a lil bit of their integrity was too much to hope for I guess. Guess? Hell too much to hope for , I know!

No it’s just my son posting under an assumed name. We call him dimwit, I don’t know why he doesn’t use that name.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

You are very, very welcome. I was witness to some of your heroics on HuffPo battling the Obamabots a couple of months ago and so I’m glad I could make even a small part of your day happy.

-V

Count all the votes!!

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One of the best things about the Lou Dobbs segment with Geller was that is was stated that IA, NH and SC all got waivers for moving their dates before the dates allowed in the rules. That is one of the most important points that the country doesn’t know. That needs to be hammered on constantly from now until the convention so people don’t forget (in particular the SDs) that it wasn’t “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.” (Honestly, I’ve always thought that was backwards. )

And I must say something else (off direct point). I live in Georgia, and know a good deal about John Lewis who marched with MLK, Jr. If any of you watched the interview he gave when he announced that he was switching his SD vote to Obama, you had to notice that he was VERY hurt. I cried. I feel certain he did, too. The Obama campaign and black leaders in Georgia FORCED him to do that under threat of losing his seat. Do I wish he had told them to go to hell, yes, but I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THE BLACK COMMUNITY & NATIONAL/LOCAL LEADERS WHO HAVE DONE THIS TO HIM!! So if anyone thinks Obama and his minions give a DAMN about the people in FL & MI, they need to remember what these lowlifes did to one of the very GIANTS on whose shoulders they really stand!

Really? I thought opposite. I have no problem with the DNC setting forth 4 states as preliminary. Otherwise, it would be insane. I have no problem with sanctions, either.

What I guess makes no sense to me is that this is obviously a very odd year. This is not the year to play hardball. This is a year where to be neutral requires setting aside hard rules. Otherwise, you delegitize the winner.

More Democrats turned out in MI and FL than ever. That should be the key.

Playing games this year?

Disastrous.

And so the DNC has followed that path. They now have convinced a large portion of the Democrats that they are crooked, out to outst Clinton Democrats (translate that into moderate Dems) and have so enraged the base that they will absolutely guarantee a resounding loss in the Fall.

Those who say, “He has to work on his relationship with this or that group” are weak idiotic voices.

He’s not going to win those votes back. Not ever.

It has nothing to do with race, either.

It has to do with offending the lion’s share of the registered Democrats.

He’ll have his head handed to him on a plate.

The “great coup” has failed.

The egomaniacs on the inside Washington have failed.

They banked on old stereotypes about Hillary and on sexist attacks.

They have failed.

And thank GOD they did fail. It was a movement based on very, very cynical and ugly principles.

The American people are NOT cynical or ugly. We may bitch non-stop, but we are absolutely not willing to go this depth of cynicism.

They failed.

Honestly, I’m ready to turn my attention to those who supported this coup, and I’m willing to support efforts to weed these guys out. I have never even considered donating to another state other than my own.

But I will now. I’m ready to get rid of the Washington insider group who tried to pull off this coup.

Let’s be done with these jerks.

delegitmize, I should say…….is that even a word?

Anyway, I trust you understand the point.

I don’t know too much about the law but it seems to me if the DNC waived three other states to go ahead of the rules, and keep two back (the largest states at that) then that’s just blatantly UNFAIR. Justice is about balancing the scales.

As Harold Ickies said yesterday, the DNC was trying to send a message, that message was received. It is now time to get on with the business of electing Hillary because if she’s pulls the nuclear option (Ayers, Rezko, Auchi)
the BO will be vaporized. Nothing left but a faint echo of ‘yes we can’.

The mere fact that the media narrative is suggesting VP for her proves how scared they are.

Bill may have suggested or slipped saying this months ago when he won 13 caucuses. Obama’s campaign and the media are clinging to that VP hope now because they realize he can’t win without her supporters.

I think Bill and the campaign will let it ride for now. If your opponent is tipping their hand in desperation – why help ‘em out.

I heard that Michigan’s uncommitted delegates will be mostly for Hill because, Obama, being the nominee and all, wasn’t paying attention. Its interesting when the Player gets PLAYED.

scott… you are full of horse hockey!..the only dem candidate that campaigned in Florida was Obama..he also broke the pledge by talking to the press ..so stick your bullshit back in the orifice it came from!

oh and Scott..the commericals Obama ran here in Fla before our election cost more than 8 republicans
commericals here in Fla….and they didn’t have to sign a pledge or jack shit ..to get their delegates counted!

fly

Obama did not allow the revote..in fact he barely answered the FDP and DNC about a re-vote..and all went through hoops trying to please the thug himself..

so bullshit someone else..we in Fla know damn well it was Obama that did not approve a re-vote..

same in MI…

we in Fla even had the money ready to do a revote..but the revote Obama wanted would have only allowed approx 100,000 voters..that was not acceptable..compared to the 1million 700,000+ voters that voted in january.

so just go ahead you obama bots..go for those 7,000 that voted in Wyoming and their what 3 electoral votes?? or is it one??….see how far that gets you in electoral votes in Nov..because this you can be assured of ..with Obama’s stand on not counting our votes in Florida..McCain will win Florida and the 27 electoral votes..4th highest in the nation..in a landslide!

Just keep up the excuses for your messiah..it is not well taken here in Florida..and wait till the HBO film comes out this sunday..about the hanging chads and how florida was stolen in 2000..then the steals of 2002 and 2004 and 2006 will also surface again..and now who has the high ground…certainly not the democrats..now do they ??????? and certainly not Obama , now does he?????

Don’t count our votes at the nations peril especially the dem party and the DNC so called fucking leadership.

There will be no question who’s side Obama is on..it certainly is not on the citizens side..and it is certainly not on the side of representative democracy.

Perhaps Obama is on the PNAC boys side??? ..the new world order boys side?????..but certainly not the side of “we the people!!”

fly..a 2004 elected delegate for the State of Florida

damn there went my tea all over the keyboard!!!!!!!!

gotta clean up now!!

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

thanks i needed that!!

fly

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[...] may or may not make some self-important whiny-assed cry babies act more mature? so they stop their incessant Obama bashing, (or Clinton bashing). (HT: [...]

“Utterly brilliant, the Democratic leadership.”

That five million a year, No Nothing, Harvard Media Gasbag found irony instead of Mexicans.

One baby step at a time Lou.

Where is your video? Show us the proof.

I hope that video makes it to the rules committee on 5/31. Let the “Messiah” stutter his way out of this one. Yabadabadooo,ummm, uhhh, he sounds more like Fred Flintstone than a Harvard scholar. Since I live in Florida I have the right to be upset and I am happy that finally State leadership took a strong stand and filed a lawsuit. What a poser!!!!!!

“The dead candidate” as you call her is about to be resurrected.Hide and watch!!!!

Donna racist Brazile would make a fine Republican.

His stance is count the votes so long as they don’t count.

This endangers him and if we know nothing about Barky, we know it’s alllllllll about Him.

Damn Fossy’s Mom, didn’t he learn ANYTHING in community college????

I owned a home in southern florida for decades. I have more friends there than you have family. The guy is lucky he hasn’t been hit by an orange while he’s down there pimping himself.

Florida despises him. Let’s see what he does about this law suit they filed yesterday. You do know about the law suit don’t you? They count their votes before May 31. Not what Barky wants exactly is it? Nope. barky wants to see him AFTER he limps over the finish line. Now why do you think that is? And do you think Floridians are that stupid as to not Know why?

I don’t think showing it to little ole’ you on demand is exactly what anyone has in mind, do you?

Yay, Nevada! My brother, who is wheelchair bound, couldn’t physically handle the long hours of the caucuses in Las Vegas. But he can sure vote in the General Election for Hillary!

I’m sorry. All we could teach him was typing. Once he learned how to type, he spent all his class time pounding out insane drivel on the college computers. Sad.

Love the name!

Nah Obamabot, we’d LOVE to take credit but they hate him all by himself. The state is riddled with Seniors who recognize a bullshitter when they see one. And then there are the Cubans who aren’t thrilled that Obama wants to French Kiss Castro’s brother. But the major problem is Florida was shafted in 2000 and they don’t appreciate being shafted in 2008–by none other than Barack Obama.

Nevada has a lot of hispanics. Hispanics don’t like Barky. You see, hispanics feel they have been treated by blacks the way blacks say they have been treated by whites. Besides, Latinos love Hillary. Always did. So did the AA’s until barky needed a boost and pulled the Race Card.

Hey Barky Marky, did you get a copy of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn’s FIRST book? The one with the declaration of war and a call for a united Communist party?

I read where Barky was trying to not only get the Uncommitted votes but the votes of the other candidates in that primary, minus Hillary’s votes. Imagine that for Marxism.

fwiw, so am I. Born in ’46.

“…recognize this movie and we are CERTAINLY not going to Play their Obama game.”

Amen to that.

Good points. Still waiting for a few more of the best boomers to step up and lead though.

And after what you point out about the republicans, maybe I’d have to change my first sentence up there to, “Somebody is trying to ruin the USA from within.” (Let’s you and him fight while me and my cartelmates loot the place.)

[...] “The festering is over, this is a declared war.” (by v at No Quarter) [Thursday] three top Florida Democrats filed suit in Federal Court to force the DNC to seat the delegates from Florida at the National Convention — no compromise, no half-way BS. Steve Geller, the Florida Senate Minority Leader, is an undeclared superdelegate and he is joined in the lawsuit by two other plaintiffs — one is a delegate for Sen. Hillary Clinton and the other a delegate for Sen. Barack Obama. Click through to watch the video of Lou Dobbs interviewing the Florida Democratic Party leader, Steven Geller.  The suit recognizes that the Party has the right to make its own rules on how the Democratic nominee is chosen, but says that it doesn’t have the right to break its own rules in regard to Florida.  In the video, Geller points out that three states were given waivers to the early primary rule, but that Florida and Michigan were not.  It also asserts that the DNC didn’t follow its own procedural due process.  There was supposed to be an investigation before stripping a state of its delegates, but no investigation was done.  The third point was that the DNC told Florida to have a post-primary caucus to decide the delegates, but Florida can’t do that on its own.  It would need pre-clearance from the Justice Department. [...]

[...] “The festering is over, this is a declared war.” (by v at No Quarter) [Thursday] three top Florida Democrats filed suit in Federal Court to force the DNC to seat the delegates from Florida at the National Convention — no compromise, no half-way BS. Steve Geller, the Florida Senate Minority Leader, is an undeclared superdelegate and he is joined in the lawsuit by two other plaintiffs — one is a delegate for Sen. Hillary Clinton and the other a delegate for Sen. Barack Obama. Click through to watch the video of Lou Dobbs interviewing the Florida Democratic Party leader, Steven Geller.  The suit recognizes that the Party has the right to make its own rules on how the Democratic nominee is chosen, but says that it doesn’t have the right to break its own rules in regard to Florida.  In the video, Geller points out that three states were given waivers to the early primary rule, but that Florida and Michigan were not.  It also asserts that the DNC didn’t follow its own procedural due process.  There was supposed to be an investigation before stripping a state of its delegates, but no investigation was done.  The third point was that the DNC told Florida to have a post-primary caucus to decide the delegates, but Florida can’t do that on its own.  It would need pre-clearance from the Justice Department. [...]