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		<title>By: MBC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26929/baracks-hypocrisy-on-health-care/#comment-1223357</link>
		<dc:creator>MBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was Kaiser that created the HMO model.  From a patient&#039;s financial perspective, it offers unlimited care and is a less expensive option thatn a PPO or Indemnity plan.  It may be managed and you may have to use in-network providers, but there is no lifetime maximum, there are no co-pays and co-insurance and most providers now participate with just about every HMO out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was Kaiser that created the HMO model.  From a patient&#8217;s financial perspective, it offers unlimited care and is a less expensive option thatn a PPO or Indemnity plan.  It may be managed and you may have to use in-network providers, but there is no lifetime maximum, there are no co-pays and co-insurance and most providers now participate with just about every HMO out there.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26929/baracks-hypocrisy-on-health-care/#comment-1223113</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on!  They&#039;re not members of the 50-million strong-one-step-from-bankruptcy uninsured!

Hillary Clinton was a true pioneer back in &#039;93 and had sent a team of researchers to Ottawa to study the superior Canadian healthcare system. They spend 8% of Canada&#039;s GNp on healthcare vs 17.5 of U.S.
Infant mortality rates are far above the American standard beside Albania(!) and women&#039;s preventive medicine is preached and practiced.  No Canadian ever goes to bed thinking they will go bankrupt if they can&#039;t pay their medical bills!  62% of American bankruptcies are result of inability to pay medical bills.  Healthcare is a Human Right, not a bloddy privilege, Obummer!  That&#039;s the message he needs to hear, this timid Empty Suit full of words words words.  Send Barack to Canada to see the difference. You don&#039;t have to be a civil servant to have great care. 
It&#039;s incredible but guess who was voted as &#039;The most Popular Canadian of All Time&#039; last year? A pop idol? Nope. A hockey idol like Gretzky? Nope.
The Winner was a dead politician, former leader of the third party (only way for people to get things done in government!) Tommy Douglas. He&#039;s an icon for young and old and if any political jerk tries t mess around with this LifeSaving healtchcare for all people, he/she&#039;d be kicked out of their job in a jiffy. 
Canadians are incredulous upon discovering that 62% of American bankruptices are the result of people not being able to pay off their....medical bills!

My advice to Obummer is to...GET HILLARY&#039;S ADVICE! And send some researchers to Canada and start XEROXING....or Barry&#039;s without a job next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on!  They&#8217;re not members of the 50-million strong-one-step-from-bankruptcy uninsured!</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton was a true pioneer back in &#8217;93 and had sent a team of researchers to Ottawa to study the superior Canadian healthcare system. They spend 8% of Canada&#8217;s GNp on healthcare vs 17.5 of U.S.<br />
Infant mortality rates are far above the American standard beside Albania(!) and women&#8217;s preventive medicine is preached and practiced.  No Canadian ever goes to bed thinking they will go bankrupt if they can&#8217;t pay their medical bills!  62% of American bankruptcies are result of inability to pay medical bills.  Healthcare is a Human Right, not a bloddy privilege, Obummer!  That&#8217;s the message he needs to hear, this timid Empty Suit full of words words words.  Send Barack to Canada to see the difference. You don&#8217;t have to be a civil servant to have great care.<br />
It&#8217;s incredible but guess who was voted as &#8216;The most Popular Canadian of All Time&#8217; last year? A pop idol? Nope. A hockey idol like Gretzky? Nope.<br />
The Winner was a dead politician, former leader of the third party (only way for people to get things done in government!) Tommy Douglas. He&#8217;s an icon for young and old and if any political jerk tries t mess around with this LifeSaving healtchcare for all people, he/she&#8217;d be kicked out of their job in a jiffy.<br />
Canadians are incredulous upon discovering that 62% of American bankruptices are the result of people not being able to pay off their&#8230;.medical bills!</p>
<p>My advice to Obummer is to&#8230;GET HILLARY&#8217;S ADVICE! And send some researchers to Canada and start XEROXING&#8230;.or Barry&#8217;s without a job next year.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26929/baracks-hypocrisy-on-health-care/#comment-1223109</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the early 90s, while traveling from Ottawa, I met a fellow who was doing research for Hillary Clinton&#039;s healthcare initiative and was apparently enamored with the Canadian universal health care system.  I did not, and never will, blame this smart man!  Canada has had a single-payer government run National Health Care legislated back in l965 thanks to the push and efforts of a third party (best way to push for reform) whose leader was Tommy Douglas. Hard for anyone to believe that just last year Canadians voted as their &quot;most famous Canadian&quot; the late Tommy Douglas.  
Canadians treasure their healthcare and they would bring down any government that threaten to mess around with this clockwork system that is efficient and compassionate. It is agreed by conservatives and liberals in Canada that government has and should play a key role in ensuring the wellbeing of ALL its citizens.  That&#039;s why Canada is so far ahead of the United States in terms of children mortality rates, women&#039;s preventive medicine and cost-effective schemes. Hillary Clinton&#039;s researcher was impressed and I only wish Obama would get some &#039;education&#039; from this fellow rather than listen to the lackeys and neanderthals adorning congress and senate who couldn&#039;t give a passing bowel movement about the wellbeing of their 50-million uninsured fellow citizens whose healthcare is a disaster.  The middleman insurers should have no place in this equation.
Canada spends only 8% of its GDP on health while the States spend 17.5% for a system that is ineffectively Dickensian and causes 65% of bankruptices for its citizens! Shame on Obama for caving in to the interests of Insurer-Banksters....once again.  
Hillary Clinton was a True Pioneer for healthcare for all Americans in &#039;93. The neanderthals burned her at the stake to thank her for her innovative and compassionate efforts to bring to Americans a less barbaric system of healthcare not run by crooked insurers.
Then she was vilified by the Obamathugs...
WEll, let them now enjoy Obummer&#039;s No-Care.  It&#039;s obvious that this Empty Suit is unqualified to make the FDR-inspired radical changes to bring about ral change to those who most need it. Just words....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the early 90s, while traveling from Ottawa, I met a fellow who was doing research for Hillary Clinton&#8217;s healthcare initiative and was apparently enamored with the Canadian universal health care system.  I did not, and never will, blame this smart man!  Canada has had a single-payer government run National Health Care legislated back in l965 thanks to the push and efforts of a third party (best way to push for reform) whose leader was Tommy Douglas. Hard for anyone to believe that just last year Canadians voted as their &#8220;most famous Canadian&#8221; the late Tommy Douglas.<br />
Canadians treasure their healthcare and they would bring down any government that threaten to mess around with this clockwork system that is efficient and compassionate. It is agreed by conservatives and liberals in Canada that government has and should play a key role in ensuring the wellbeing of ALL its citizens.  That&#8217;s why Canada is so far ahead of the United States in terms of children mortality rates, women&#8217;s preventive medicine and cost-effective schemes. Hillary Clinton&#8217;s researcher was impressed and I only wish Obama would get some &#8216;education&#8217; from this fellow rather than listen to the lackeys and neanderthals adorning congress and senate who couldn&#8217;t give a passing bowel movement about the wellbeing of their 50-million uninsured fellow citizens whose healthcare is a disaster.  The middleman insurers should have no place in this equation.<br />
Canada spends only 8% of its GDP on health while the States spend 17.5% for a system that is ineffectively Dickensian and causes 65% of bankruptices for its citizens! Shame on Obama for caving in to the interests of Insurer-Banksters&#8230;.once again.<br />
Hillary Clinton was a True Pioneer for healthcare for all Americans in &#8217;93. The neanderthals burned her at the stake to thank her for her innovative and compassionate efforts to bring to Americans a less barbaric system of healthcare not run by crooked insurers.<br />
Then she was vilified by the Obamathugs&#8230;<br />
WEll, let them now enjoy Obummer&#8217;s No-Care.  It&#8217;s obvious that this Empty Suit is unqualified to make the FDR-inspired radical changes to bring about ral change to those who most need it. Just words&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Patience</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26929/baracks-hypocrisy-on-health-care/#comment-1223097</link>
		<dc:creator>Patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not an idealogue who thinks the government is always inferior to the private sector.  In fact, what I said was I feel there&#039;s a greater role than now exists for government in healthcare, for those &lt;em&gt;in need&lt;/em&gt;.

But I&#039;ll say this.  I&#039;m happy with my private health coverage which I pay for myself.  I consider it my responsibilty to do this and have been willing to do without other things to be able to fit the expense into my budget.  I don&#039;t want this to change and there are other people like me.

I feel &lt;em&gt;those in need&lt;/em&gt; of help should be the priority, not a sweeping transformation that necessarily involves working and middle-class people like myself who are willing and able to pay for private care and don&#039;t want to deal with any more red tape, delays, and layers of authorization when it comes to treatment.

You&#039;re wrong -- I&#039;ve already educated myself when it comes to healthcare.  The figures used for those considered uninsured aren&#039;t as black and white as some people claim.  Some  are already eligible for Medicaid.  Some are illegal aliens.  Some are healthy young adults who&#039;d rather spend money on things other than health insurance.  Some are unemployed who, when employed again are insured again.

At a time when the Federal deficit is so high, it&#039;s irresponsible to rush into a sweeping and costly reform of healthcare that may not meet the goal of reducing costs effectively and satisfactorily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not an idealogue who thinks the government is always inferior to the private sector.  In fact, what I said was I feel there&#8217;s a greater role than now exists for government in healthcare, for those <em>in need</em>.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll say this.  I&#8217;m happy with my private health coverage which I pay for myself.  I consider it my responsibilty to do this and have been willing to do without other things to be able to fit the expense into my budget.  I don&#8217;t want this to change and there are other people like me.</p>
<p>I feel <em>those in need</em> of help should be the priority, not a sweeping transformation that necessarily involves working and middle-class people like myself who are willing and able to pay for private care and don&#8217;t want to deal with any more red tape, delays, and layers of authorization when it comes to treatment.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong &#8212; I&#8217;ve already educated myself when it comes to healthcare.  The figures used for those considered uninsured aren&#8217;t as black and white as some people claim.  Some  are already eligible for Medicaid.  Some are illegal aliens.  Some are healthy young adults who&#8217;d rather spend money on things other than health insurance.  Some are unemployed who, when employed again are insured again.</p>
<p>At a time when the Federal deficit is so high, it&#8217;s irresponsible to rush into a sweeping and costly reform of healthcare that may not meet the goal of reducing costs effectively and satisfactorily.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26929/baracks-hypocrisy-on-health-care/#comment-1223048</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have very good neighbors, Kramer and they do help up with repairs. They are wonderful people and we are lucky. 

For the health care, get back with me in twenty or thirty years or when you are over fifty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have very good neighbors, Kramer and they do help up with repairs. They are wonderful people and we are lucky. </p>
<p>For the health care, get back with me in twenty or thirty years or when you are over fifty.</p>
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		<title>By: Up</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26929/baracks-hypocrisy-on-health-care/#comment-1223032</link>
		<dc:creator>Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment is a bunch of BS. The governments of every single industrial country on the planet do a far better job at providing healthcare to their citizens than the private sector does in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment is a bunch of BS. The governments of every single industrial country on the planet do a far better job at providing healthcare to their citizens than the private sector does in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Up</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26929/baracks-hypocrisy-on-health-care/#comment-1223031</link>
		<dc:creator>Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The U.S. government does a very good job at many many things. You are a complete idiot if you do not think so. Continually bashing the government is complete BS.

The government in every other industrial country on the planet does a better job in providing healthcare than what private industry does in the U.S. It is not even close.

Go do some research and educate yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U.S. government does a very good job at many many things. You are a complete idiot if you do not think so. Continually bashing the government is complete BS.</p>
<p>The government in every other industrial country on the planet does a better job in providing healthcare than what private industry does in the U.S. It is not even close.</p>
<p>Go do some research and educate yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

I think you are premature in your critism. You have no actual plan yet to critize

He is smartly and strategically holding his cards close to his vest to keep conservatives and interest groups guessing and make it more difficult for them to critize and lobby.

However, every day Obama and the adminstration is talking more and more about a strong public option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>I think you are premature in your critism. You have no actual plan yet to critize</p>
<p>He is smartly and strategically holding his cards close to his vest to keep conservatives and interest groups guessing and make it more difficult for them to critize and lobby.</p>
<p>However, every day Obama and the adminstration is talking more and more about a strong public option.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26929/baracks-hypocrisy-on-health-care/#comment-1222974</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Single payer health care is the very best way to go. If we could call our senators, and let them know this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Single payer health care is the very best way to go. If we could call our senators, and let them know this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/26929/baracks-hypocrisy-on-health-care/#comment-1222972</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a much better health care plan. It will take us awhile to get it. The politicians sure won&#039;t help us get there, right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a much better health care plan. It will take us awhile to get it. The politicians sure won&#8217;t help us get there, right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Patience</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was doing a search about drug side effects recently and was surprised to read some Brits&#039; feedback.  As one example, a person who had a peptic ulcer mentioned having to wait at least a year before surgery would be scheduled.  This was stated matter-of-factly, not in a complaining tone.  And this is what bothers me.  Would people in the US be happy with such a health care system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was doing a search about drug side effects recently and was surprised to read some Brits&#8217; feedback.  As one example, a person who had a peptic ulcer mentioned having to wait at least a year before surgery would be scheduled.  This was stated matter-of-factly, not in a complaining tone.  And this is what bothers me.  Would people in the US be happy with such a health care system?</p>
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		<title>By: Surfered</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surfered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got cut off on my previous comment...

Police and fire departmens are non-profit as is the military and the defense industry seems to be doing well financially, so don&#039;t tell me the health care industry will collapse if a &quot;public option&quot; health insurance is offered.

According to the Kaiser Foundation, the U. S. spent $5,711 per capita on health costs in 2008.  This was about double what the rest of the industrialized world spends.  And yet, we&#039;re not number one in health care.  The CIA World Book of Facts reports that we&#039;re 44th in infant mortality, behind Cuba and tied with Slovakia and Poland.  We&#039;re ranked 50th in life expectancy, just ahead of Albania and just behind Portugal.

Of course these are averages and they&#039;re brought down by those without health insurance. Since they can&#039;t afford preventive care like colonoscopies, they show up in emergency rooms after the disease has progressed and treatment is now more expensive. Of course, the rest of us pay for this through taxes for public hospitals. 

Because of rising insurance costs, businesses are cutting back on health coverage for employees.  Co-pays and deductibles are increased, but the premiums keep climbing.  Our exporting businesses must compete with foreign companies whose employees are provided health care by their governments. 

I pay $600 per month for health insurance and I have a high deductible.  The eight largest health insurance companies reported $30 billion last year in &quot;selling, general &amp; administrative costs&quot;. Not one dollar of this amount went to health care. Their overhead is 20-30%.  Medicare&#039;s overhead is 1-2%.

It&#039;s time for public option insurance and if I pay anything less than $600 a month for it, I won&#039;t care whether it&#039;s called a tax or a premium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got cut off on my previous comment&#8230;</p>
<p>Police and fire departmens are non-profit as is the military and the defense industry seems to be doing well financially, so don&#8217;t tell me the health care industry will collapse if a &#8220;public option&#8221; health insurance is offered.</p>
<p>According to the Kaiser Foundation, the U. S. spent $5,711 per capita on health costs in 2008.  This was about double what the rest of the industrialized world spends.  And yet, we&#8217;re not number one in health care.  The CIA World Book of Facts reports that we&#8217;re 44th in infant mortality, behind Cuba and tied with Slovakia and Poland.  We&#8217;re ranked 50th in life expectancy, just ahead of Albania and just behind Portugal.</p>
<p>Of course these are averages and they&#8217;re brought down by those without health insurance. Since they can&#8217;t afford preventive care like colonoscopies, they show up in emergency rooms after the disease has progressed and treatment is now more expensive. Of course, the rest of us pay for this through taxes for public hospitals. </p>
<p>Because of rising insurance costs, businesses are cutting back on health coverage for employees.  Co-pays and deductibles are increased, but the premiums keep climbing.  Our exporting businesses must compete with foreign companies whose employees are provided health care by their governments. </p>
<p>I pay $600 per month for health insurance and I have a high deductible.  The eight largest health insurance companies reported $30 billion last year in &#8220;selling, general &amp; administrative costs&#8221;. Not one dollar of this amount went to health care. Their overhead is 20-30%.  Medicare&#8217;s overhead is 1-2%.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for public option insurance and if I pay anything less than $600 a month for it, I won&#8217;t care whether it&#8217;s called a tax or a premium.</p>
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		<title>By: Surfered</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surfered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health insurance premiums for small business has gone up 10% per year for the last 5 years.  That rate exceeds increases in revenue growth and salary.  It is unsustainable because, eventually, 100% of income will go for health insurance.

According to their annual reports, the eight largest health insurance companies spent $30 billion last year on &quot;selling, general &amp; administrative expenses.&quot;  Not one dollar of that money went to health care.

The cost of health care in the U. S. is twice per capita than most of the industrialized world, yet according to the CIA World Book Of Facts,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health insurance premiums for small business has gone up 10% per year for the last 5 years.  That rate exceeds increases in revenue growth and salary.  It is unsustainable because, eventually, 100% of income will go for health insurance.</p>
<p>According to their annual reports, the eight largest health insurance companies spent $30 billion last year on &#8220;selling, general &amp; administrative expenses.&#8221;  Not one dollar of that money went to health care.</p>
<p>The cost of health care in the U. S. is twice per capita than most of the industrialized world, yet according to the CIA World Book Of Facts,</p>
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		<title>By: Boxer Mum 06</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boxer Mum 06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Why should a healthy person be forced to pay for someone else?”

Agreed Elise and lets not also forget that &#039;healthy&#039; is a relative term that can change instantly. 

What about the whole step outside and get hit by a bus saying. It&#039;s true! You can be a healthy person one minute and then something tragic changes your life forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Why should a healthy person be forced to pay for someone else?”</p>
<p>Agreed Elise and lets not also forget that &#8216;healthy&#8217; is a relative term that can change instantly. </p>
<p>What about the whole step outside and get hit by a bus saying. It&#8217;s true! You can be a healthy person one minute and then something tragic changes your life forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Boxer Mum 06</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boxer Mum 06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naomi we&#039;re all eyes - tell us the other half of the story.</description>
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