Why We Continue: Hillary and Me

Hillary must win so we don’t have to deal with BoardGamesGate!

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Latest news…Obama trying to make nice with veterans here in Las Cruces…

“Yup! Obama Doing an “Invitation-Only” Event for Vets on Memorial Day…and Richardson Will Appear…”

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/

As I predicted, making the day political, trying to make up for his DUMB and INSENSITIVE comment comparing the Bataan Death March to the primary season…

And Bill Richardson is handling it all..

SO obvious…frankly, pretty dicey if the kids crash this thing….

Hillary may feel a sense of loyalty to the party and if she is not the nominee I know she is going to go out and campaign for that fool.

Here is where I will disagree with her because if she happens to become the nominee Obama and his camp with the help of those in the media will try every thing possible to cause havoc in this nation.

There is no if’s about that one Hillary in all her good intentions will try her best to heal the party for the sake of Obama to help him win if it comes to that, but unfortunately Hillary needs to wake up because Obama will never do the same for her.

I r like maths.

I see this man is repeating all the distortions circulated by the Obama camp. And they wonder why Obie doesn’t have the nomination wrapped up? The mistake Axelrod is making is in failing to realize he’s dealing with liberals (people who think) and not brainwashed fundies.

Keep fanning the flames of race. It is all you and your candidate have left.

You people disgust me. She and Bill have done more for African-Americans than Obama, who is not even African-American.

The Right Wing has bought off the AA radio stations.
They are pumping out unbelievable hate rhetoric against her.
Claiming all sort of racist tactics.

Judging from the callers, AAs are falling for it. Obviously, this
kind of hate mongering is how Obama solidified blacks to vote for him.

Operatives are in NY trying to blackmail her into quitting the campaign
by turning New Yorkers against her.

Keep going, Kid! America needs that fantastic healthcare plan!

THANKS FOR THE POST SUSAN…ALL THE WAY TO DENVER…
FUCK OBAMA AND HIS FASCIST ARMY OF IDIOTS….HE IS CORRUPT.

SALUS POPULI SUPREMA LEX ESTO !
( LET THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE BE THE EXTREME LAW ! )

Now the black leaders seem to want to take away her senate seat from her if that be the case, I guess they will keep at it until Hillary is sent back to her house to do what women are supposed to do “iron shirts” and be quiet.

This election has really showed me how nasty some Americans can be, it sure is a eye opener that is for sure.

Damn Terri…that is good…I think if given the opportunity these fascists would do anything possible to make sure the party rulz were inacessible to those that can read…

i guess all the aa’s forgot about how much the clintons have done for them. like aa home ownership soared under the clinton administration. personally, i am getting sick of them and their obvious bias towards the clintons simply because they want a black guy in the whitehouse. nevermind that he is not qualified and a lying racist fraud. rest assured, he will not be elected, and the aa’s will blame hillary and white america instead of the truth about why obama lost.

Look over there!

Won’t work. Obama’s tanking. The whole world knows it.

It’s now common discussion that the Democratic Party’s presumptive nominee can’t win in a year that Bozo the Clown could have won.

SHARPTON IS AN ASS…HE SAID OBAMA WAS GRANDSTANDING FOR THE CRACKERMAN TOO…AGAIN SHARPTON IS AN ASS !

It’s been 20 minutes since Obama’s camp played the race card.

I don’t think his remarks that MI/FL was nothing more than Hillary-manufactured went over well. That’s when the boyz come out and stir up racial hatred.

It won’t work. It quit working in February. And it has served ONLY to drive his numbers down even further.

Thank God they are stupid.

Who is fanning? That remark is rich! LOL*

So if you criticise or run against a black candidate, you are taking a swipe at the black community? Something seriously fucked up there.

I have long admired Hillary Clinton. This race has brought me to the point of truly adoring her.
However NOTHING she will says will get me to vote for Obama…EVER. I know many people who feel the same way.
Obama and the MSM have taken the race issue further back than I have known in my lifetime. I am seriously scared for this country as a result of this campaign. He and “his followers” will prove that yes things can be worse than a GWB administration.

This is all at the feet of Obama. Hillary and Bill Clinton have done nothing but worked all their adult lives for Civil Rights. The race baiting starting after NH was when I decided I could never vote for Obama. This is despicable that a “Democrat” would attack the Clintons, who are icons for the Party and have a lifetime of achievement for improving minorities lives and upholding their rights.

Bill Clinton should be honored for his work; instead he is vilified. The Republicans canonized a real racist, Ronald Reagan, who is continually held up by Obama as a model. Obama is not a real Democrat; he has maligned the only two term Democratic President since Harry S. Truman and the former First Lady and two term Senator from NY. I am appalled at the Democratic Party’s complicity in this action.

“Now the black leaders seem to want to take away her senate seat from her…”

I’m not sure any New Yorker wants to rock the boat in general right now. Things are too uncertain economically. People know that the Clintons are really smart when it comes to helping fix the economy. Why risk putting in someone who might not be so good?

Jim Cramer, the money maniac at CNBC has endorsed Clinton – for very pragmatic reasons. New Yorkers like that.

There’s another group he can’t win over. Hillary’s support of real vets in real situations is solid. Obama is not going to attract that group much because he’s a talky-walky. Moreover, his remarks about negotiations are going to strike that group as profoundly wrong-headed.

But….he’s welcome to try. Might as well. McCain will, of course, wipe the floor with him in this segment.

fuck obama and fuck his wife, and fuck rev. wright and fuck bill ayers,

just give the fucing pussy obama his nomination, you know they are gonna do it regardless,

and then watch the mther fcker go down in flames, and i hope everyone associated with it , loses all standing in their careers,

give the little fcker the nomination already, watch mccain cream him,,,,,

stay in it hillary ,

make ther miserable lives , more miserable,

can’t wait for the michelle tape, and can’t wait for the larry sinclair press conference

Rise, Hillary, rise!

Hillary is simply amazing. I’m talking to life long Republicans who are expressing a grudging respect and admiration for her tenacity. I’m talking to some real cynics who haven’t voted for years that believe they are finally seeing a candidate who is for real.

scorched earth, fuck em all, hillary, you deserve it,

that little fcking obama is a wishy washy undeserving prick, he makes me sick

New York is bigger than NYC…and she has a real preacher in Harlem who sees this Obama shit for what it is…I would’nt worry about her seat…She is good…

I have yet to see a single Oama surrogate explain these obvious poll numbers. It’s just so obvious that he’s tanking.

I presume they would say that it will change once he’s the nominee.

But Hillary is still picking up SDs, even though she’s considered “down for the count.”

She’s still getting a nod from the moderate watchers who say, “slim chance.”

She is going to end up the surefire popular vote winner, I predict. Obamamath will not scrub it away.

My chuckle of every morning is to figure out which editorialists are idiots. Clue: “Obama needs to shore up his rural vote.”

There ain’t gonna be no shoring up the rural vote. That’s downright funny stuff.

Not all of them….read the comments on this blog Lots of AA’s and other minorities see right through the Bull Shit !….She has more AA support than folks realize or the msm/ polls tell us…

Facts are stubborn things and they have a Clinton bias.

Fosbach and eaglesnest are tag-teaming. Black Americans have been hoodwinked and bamboozled just like the rest of Americans. Most AAs will support Hillary win she wins the nomination.

This is a new and desperate strategy.

Ignore both these Obama trolls.

If this story breaks nationaly and Obama ends up indicted for his part in the Dirty politics of setting up the CHICAGO KITCHEN CABINET, Evelyn Pringle may very well be the recipient of a Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Journalism.

IDIOT

I agree with you, but I also see why she must be supportive of Obama if he gets the nomination.

You also make an excellent point — Kos et al. would keep hammering her with their typical vicious attacks throughout the race, to November.

But Hillary has to appear loyal to the party for many reasons. However, you and I are under no such constraints, and we can keep raising holy hell.

Joe Scarborough has a cool segment about
Hillary on SNL. It’s at his MSNBC url.

I am unable to post the link here, but here’s
how to get there:

go to MSNBC,
click on MSNBC TV (top right of page,)
click on Scarborough’s face (top right of page),
You’ll see the icon on the left under Morning Joe

Hillary would win based upon the electoral map of the previous four elections.

Obama, however, cannot assume the electoral map of the previous two elections.

The reasons are detailed in an interesting article which demonstrates, from a historical standpoint, why Obama’s electoral map will look more like the McGovern, Mondale or Dukakis electoral map.

http://www.ifind2.com/news/ChoosingANomineeWhoCanWin.html

THE WHOLE WORLD PREFER OBAMA
NOT TOTALLY OBLITERATE IRAN
OR BOMB BOMBIRAN McCAIN

and you disgust us. GO away you hypocrit.

I know that in GAZA they teach you that you count for something in this election Antoinen… YOU DON’T COUNT FOR A VOTE…AND GLOBAL APPEAL IS NOT WHY WE ELECT US PRESIDENTS…SO SAD TO INFORM YOU….WADDLE BACK TO GAZA AND STAY THERE YOU TWIT !

You know that 10-minute KO video rant against HRC you all love to hate? Well, turns out, Senator Obama’s press staff sent out copies of that tape to the MSM. David Axelrod is on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopolous. They were discussing HRC’s RFK statement. DA claimed they were satisfied with her explanation. ‘Then why,’ George asked, ‘did you distribute KO’s tape to the press?’ DA said something about KO being entitled to his opinion. GS repeated, ‘But you distributed the tape.’ DA repeated, ‘We’re satisfied with HRC’s explanation and we’re past this.’ GS now asked, ‘So, does this mean you won’t send out any more tapes?’ DA repeated we’re past this. DA that preceded GS’s statement about the Obama campaign’s distribution of KO’s tape: “We’re not trying to stir the issue up.” DA=David Axelrod

Sign here, very easy

http://www.countthevotescast.org/letter.php

Hillary is indeed by far the better candidate.

The problem the DNC, MSM, the activist branch of the party and beltway elites like Pelosi, Reid and Kerry don’t want her and will do everything to stop her.

They don’t care what the polls show either. They think Hillary supporters along with the white working class and hispanics will come around and kiss Barky’s ass when the time comes.

This is why the DNC and the elities aren’t listening to anyone. Just like they did in ’04 and previous elections where they nominated one east coast elitist after another.

Because of this Hillary isn’t going to get the nomination unless Rezko implicates Barky before the convention. Barring that Barky will be the nominee.

Look! The Race Card! Why I haven’t heard or seen the Race Card in at least 20 minutes.

Let me tell you something. I marched for civil rights during the days when it counted, you asshole. And today I have gotten nothing but filth from your camp. I do not know one woman who is not reviled by all of you. Barack Obama and you pigs who follow him have set back gender AND racial relations at least thirty years. And I have been around enough blocks to know a mean-spirited, misogynist candidate when I see one. I will not tolerate Barack Obama and you Marxist pigs and I will not stop fighting against all of you. You are McGovern all over again, only at least he was a gentleman.

By the time you savages get done harrassing, threatening and bullying the electorate, they will RUN to the polls to get rid of all of you and shove your asses back to the left cliff Marxist fringe parties you couldn’t make work for you. Just like they did when you tried this the last time. You may have huge foul mouths, but you are NOT the majority of this party.

And after what I have seen in the the past year, I care about you and Barack Obama like you care about me. Not. At. All.

So take your race card and shove it straightaway up your ass.

SLOPPY cut and paste job.

That his post or his bris?

AND SHE WOULD DESERVE THAT AS WELL AS A CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL FOR DOING HER PATRIOTIC DUTY….imho…

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Uh Oh. Fosdick’s Mommy is going to smack him good now.

“fuck obama and fuck his wife, and fuck rev. wright and fuck bill ayers,”

Classy.

the activist branch of the party and beltway elites like Pelosi, Reid and Kerry don’t want her and will do everything to stop her.

How about the “Runaway and soil their Depends branch”?

I know Hillary won’t quit until the convention is over. That is why she is my candidate. She is not a quitter. The following came out about five days ago. It is worth a read.

Kansas City Star (MO): Memo to Hillary Clinton: Please don’t quit

By Lewis Diuguid

Last summer, I shook Sen. Hillary Clinton’s hand and gave her my business card when she met with the Trotter Group of black columnists. I wished her well in her presidential bid.

Ever since then I’ve received e-mails from her, Bill Clinton and their daughter, Chelsea Clinton, with video links promoting Hillary Clinton’s historic run for the Oval Office. A half-dozen arrived last week.

I hadn’t replied until now.

Dear Sen. Hillary Clinton:

I have greatly appreciated all of the e-mails from you and your family. I have only two words to share with you about your valiant quest to become the 44th president of the United States and the first woman to hold the highest office in the land:

Don’t quit.

A ton of pundits and political operatives have asked you to give up. Ignore them.

They have asked you to step aside for the good of the Democratic Party and let Sen. Barack Obama stand as the presumptive nominee. His rise to that post would be historic, too, making him the first African American to go that far.

The pundits and political operatives repeatedly have professed that you would be doing more harm than good to the party if you don’t surrender now. But for all of your supporters, the country and our way of life, I say don’t quit.

It doesn’t matter whether women in the United States have seen you in person, heard you in the debates or voted for you in the primaries or not. What matters is every woman who believes in America needs you to stay in the race all the way to the Democratic National Convention on Aug. 25-28 in Denver.

Every girl needs you to go the distance. You have come too far to fold now. For every woman’s and girl’s sake, don’t quit.

Men and boys need to witness your perseverance, too, and know that the force of your will is in the hearts and minds of every female. Such drive, determination, duty and character have helped to make this country a superpower.

Even though no woman has been president up to now, every woman has given endless amounts of sweat, blood and true grit to make this nation what it is today.

There would be no America if women had folded under the strain of child birth or if women hadn’t endured the misery of scratching out a living from the land, traveling across the vastness of our countryside. Women have been treated like chattel and second-class citizens, working in sweat shops, remaining in the shadows endlessly serving others and maintaining the home front while their sons come home from the wars.

Still, women make only 77 cents for every dollar that men earn.

Don’t quit. Our men and boys need to see you go the distance.

Many other countries have had women leaders — Germany, Israel, Argentina, India, the Philippines, Great Britain and Pakistan. For the sake of women and men all over the world, don’t quit.

After eight, long, horribly regressive years of George W. Bush as president, the world needs to see a better image of America. They need to see how progressive the people of this country truly are. For their sake and ours, don’t quit.

People need to see a real convention with all of the political wrangling and elbowing. So many conventions in the last 30 years have been neatly staged.

The power elite control the outcome. Give the convention back to the people. They need to see politics being made like sausage from the squeal to the plate. For America’s sake and our way of life, don’t quit.

Yours truly,
Lewis

I wrote Mr. Diuguid a nice email thanking him for his great words. Surprisingly he wrote back. In his response he said the following:

P.S. I think it is time for people who support Sen. Clinton to become very outspoken about it. It almost has to be as loud and as public as the suffrage movement. Nothing else seems to work.

I agree.

Have you seen the Veteran’s swift boat commecial ready to go? It seems that a bunch of Illinois veterans from Iraq were told he was “not available” when they traveled to meet him. This is just the start of Barky’s problems with vets. you can view the piece here.
http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/

It’s all part of the PR hype that the SDs cannot “steal” the nomination from Obama. They really want to end the race so what better way to stir up the AA community and threat violence!

Not voting for Obama in the GE is about so much more than casting a vote for a future President.

after Clinton was elected in 1992, until he left office in 1998: The GOP gained 48 seats in the House. The GOP gained 8 seats in the Senate. The GOP gained 11 Governorships. The GOP gained 1,254 state legislative seats. 439 Democrat office holders bacame Republicans. source – The National Conference of State Legislatures. Not to mention, his impeachment could well have cost Al Gore the presidency in 2000

Just because they think she’s tenacious doesn’t mean these Republicans would ever vote for her. And all these Republican pundits, Scarborough, Hannity, Rush, etc who claim to admire her tenacity really just want her to either extend the infighting among the democrats, which can only favor McCain, or else to have her win the nomination, whereupon she would be low hanging fruit for the Republican attack machine in the fall.

oooooohhhh…..JUICY…..thanks marie…

Here’s an interesting analysis that supports the latest polling data.

Buyers’ Remorse: How Rank & File Democrats Rejected Obama Once He Was Declared The “Inevitable” Nominee

http://www.correntewire.com/buyers_remorse_how_rank_file_democrats_rejected_obama_once_he_was_declared_the_inevitable_nominee

but Casting a living president and his wife who have faught tirelessly to invigorate and elevate minorities in this country throughout their careers, the jews, the hispaincs, the gays, the black, all of them, as a couple of racists via a planned and viciously executed race-baiting campaign from Obama is acceptable?

You better believe a lot of us are feeling that Fuck Obama is perfectly acceptable after that.

Yuo reap what you sew.

Like you, Uppity, I have a long history working for civil rights. And I second all you say. No, after the RFK flap and misrepresenation I quaddruple your remarks. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS BUNCH OF THUGS !!!!!!!!!

Clinton Death List:
http://www.lizmichael.com/clintond.htm
Clinton Death List

New York is bigger than NYC…

That is a very true statement and has elected republican governors often enough to make it difficult for many a dem to be viable.

BO is not a viable candidate.

POWERFUL. The Republicans would have a field day IF he becomes the nominee.

DA repeated, ‘We’re satisfied with HRC’s explanation and we’re past this.’

Because the damage is done?

Comment by antoinen | 2008-05-25 11:22:57

THE WHOLE WORLD PREFER OBAMA
NOT TOTALLY OBLITERATE IRAN
OR BOMB BOMBIRAN McCAIN

Succinct and to the point…by the way, what the f–k was your point, again???

Hillary’s party support is entirely based on upcoming events…If the FASCIST TAKEOVER IS COMPLETE….We shall see…She is guided by her own principles and if there is corruption…she will campaign lukewarm at best….Obama really does not want her to campaign for him…He wants her to Shut Up and Disappear…LOL
In this Obama driven by Ego is very similar to Gore who allowed Ego and Moral Superiority to get the better of his political instincts…

*** TRUTH IS…FROM A PRACTICLE STANDPOINT WHY WOULD I WANT THE CONSTANT COMPARISON…AS SHE IS SMARTER AND MORE CAPABLE THAN OBAMA…EVERY TIME THEY APPEAR TOGETHER IT IS OBVIOUS ***

Kinda like Ol’ Bill….makin Gore appear a little boring…and I’m A Gore Fan…I’m just sayin…Gore shot himself in the foot on that one…Big Mis-calculation…

Hillary can weather right wing attacks and rise above them. She’s been doing it for years. Currently she’s facing a hostile media, misogyny,Republicans,and the Obama campaign,and she’s still standing. Not only that, she’s looking good and doing it with grace. By taking the popular vote, she’s managed to get more votes then any other Democrat in primary history.

If Democrats nominate Obama, he’ll be flattened. My only question is, will he be flattened worse then McGovern was or will it be a tie? Looking at polls, about the only place I’d put money on him capturing is DC. They went 92% for John Kerry. I don’t think they like Republicans much.

u better go to school in order to learn something else than hate

This is a common mis-calculation of the TUNNLE VISION OF THE OBAMAFASCIST BRIGADE…Lots of real estate between the big cities…and there are way more CRACKERS ( using the def. of cracker being anyone not AA or otherwise intelligent voters insulted by Obama et, al..)….than they care to admit…
Michigan is bigger than Detroit
Pennsylvania is bigger than Philadelphia
Texas is bigger than Dallas or Houston
California is bigger than LA
the list goes on and on…..

In this…our WONKY Hillary displays remarkable WEEBLE STRENGTHS.

** WEEBLES WOBBLE BUT THEY DON’T FALL DOWN…chuckle **

Give Em’ Hell Hillary ! ALL THE WAY TO DENVER !

hillary’s toasted! end game!
u better wake up. the sooner the best!
u don’t need to follow the bunch of looser
supporting a looser one. she can’t even run her campaign stop driking beer it’s bad for ur brain. she’s no standing. She can’t even respect the rules she agreed at the first place.

hillary’s rising from the crap to the crap. period

That his post or his bris?

ROFL!

there’s a long run between now and november the repub’s machine’snt yet attacked hillary bad business, drug affairs, clinton’s friends list of death, sexual harassment. keep kidding yourself

I keep meeting his constituents online and the general consensus is he is an absentee Senator. A lazy ass. He’s too busy making deals the Chicago Way.

Barack Obama lead in Montana: 52 percent, Hillary Rodham Clinton, 35 percent, Undecided, 13 percent

41 percent of respondents had a favorable view of Obama and 38 percent had an unfavorable view, compared with 29 percent with a favorable view of Clinton and 50 percent with unfavorable views.

What part of 65% approval rating when he left office do you not get?

No, she’s not.

Gore’s campaign manager, Donna Brazile ran a very poor campaign and that cost Gore the elction. That and he would not use Clinton to campaign for him. Another one of Brazile’s brillant (NOT) ideas.

Gee. She is part and parcel of the MI and FL debacle and she suports Obama, too. Another loser and losing campaign.

He saved this marginalized party. you know why it was marginalized? For the same reason it was marginalized all the other times. Left wing whack jobs with Marxist ideas and mean-spiritedness forcing off the cliff candidates at us. It took a moderate to bring this party back. You know why? Because the MAJORITY of this party is moderate and left of center. And you fring whackos just can’t accept it. every time you give us another Marxist asshole to run, we lose because we can’t stomach what’s running. You can’t make it in those fringe parties that died. The reason they died is NOBODY WANTS OFF THE CLIFF WINGNUTS running the country. The silent majority always steps in. And they always will. Barack Obama is Mike Dukakis only taller. His followers are McGovern’s only meaner. By the time November rolls around people will be tripping over each other to get rid of this Marxist, middle eastern terrorist ass-sucking fraud.

BullShit. My republican family was all set to vote for Hillary as a protest vote for bowing to the extreme right. Just like we here will punish the DNC for running a candidate from the extreme left.

Extremism is the path to destruction. It doesn’t matter which side the extremism is on. They are both whackjobber fringes that the electorate will never tolerate. They like Democracy.

Can’t get laid, eh?

Keep your shoulder on Barky’s skeleton closet door till august, ya hear?

Fine. But not before Obama is left bleeding and limping. Works for me. Serves em right.

In four years, it will be the I TOLD YOU SO party. Again. Just like all the other times these whackjobs tried this on the electorate.

Fuck you’re stupid. Ken Starr and 70 million bucks spent to find a blow job ringing any bells?

She may be forced out but the rest of her pissed off followers won’t be.

Then why does she have a 65% approval rating in New York?

Thank you, Susan, Fosbach is an evil, mean-spirited jerk!

Thank you Susan! Fosbach is an evil, mean-spirited jerk! Glad I don’t have to scroll thru HIS posts anymore!

This audio will tell you why Obama will definately lose in November.

http://www.bartcop.com/141-bombshell-sample.m3u

I disagree. I think they want her in it as Republicans because they can see the obvious, Obama is terrible for this country. Any thinking person knows it’s Clinton or McCain. There is no other choice. IMO the average American sees the value of ptuing the country before any given party.

-I presume they would say that it will change once he’s the nominee.-

They are calling him the nominee right now and it has not helped him in any conceivable way.

There is a truth the MSM will not tell.

Why? Because their fair-haired boy Obama would not fair so well in this election if the masses knew this truth.

Here are the 2008 Democratic Preference Election Results broken down by the two voting systems used, ie, primary and caucus:

35 Primaries w/FL
Total Votes: 33,825,816
Net Votes: Clinton + 36,934
Net Delegates: Clinton + 62

13 Caucuses + TX
Total Votes: 1,057,137
Net Votes: Obama + 299,768
Net Delegates: Obama + 193

Note: “Net Delegates” includes Pledged and Super delegates. Data is as of May 23, 2008

YES! That’s right voters! The figures are correct.

The Caucus voting system is so flawed, I undertook the research to see how it impacted the election results.

Integrating primary and caucus results completely distorts the total picture of who the voters have truly chosen as their preference for the 2008 Democratic Nominee.

Look again:

35 Primaries with 33.8 million voters [96.8%] have Clinton leading in both votes and delegates (Excluding MI).

Caucuses with 1.1 million voters [3.2%] gave Obama 300,000 more votes and 193 more delegates.

More detail:

Primary Pledged Delegates:
Obama: 1325
Clinton: 1324
Diff: 1

Caucus Pledged Delegates:
Obama: 321
Clinton: 173
Diff: 148

See where Obama got most of his delegate “lead”? Ouch!

Combine this with these facts to discern who the strongest Dem candidate really is:

21 of Obama’s 29 states won are either Red states or caucus states.

In the 47 total election contests held so far during 2008 (Excl. FL & MI), 10 states have not voted Democratic since 1964 and another 5 states since 1976. Obama has won 12 of those elections, Clinton has won 3. So, 80% of the deepest RED states are in Obama’s “won” column.

Obama won 12 of the 13 caucus states. The average Democratic voter turnout in those 13 Caucus states was 4.5% of eligible voters. Compare that with the average 19.92% Dem voter turnout in the Primary election states.

The caucus states have cast only 1 of every 34 votes in this election cycle.

One-half the caucus states have NOT voted Democratic since 1964. And these states gave Bush an average 31.6 point margin of victory over Kerry in 2004.

In fact, 70% of caucus states voted for Bush in 2004.

8 out of the 13 caucus states had only 8,700 to 43,900 voters each in this 2008 Dem election.

The 12 Obama-won caucus states have a combined 69 electoral votes, 21.5 million eligible voters and only cast 944,000 of the total votes in this 2008 election. Yet, these states gave Obama a net 138 pledged delegates.

Also consider this: Obama’s 138 pledged delegates derived from the 12 caucus states he won is only 18 less than Clinton’s 156 pledged delegates won from all of these hard-fought, primary states: California, Texas, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Indiana, Tennessee, Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, New Mexico, West Virginia, New Hampshire and Rhode Island.

These Clinton-won states have a combined 220 electoral votes, 87.2 million eligible voters and cast a total of 18,400,000 votes in these primaries.

Indeed, 42% of Obama’s wins are caucus states, 95% of Clinton’s wins are primary states.

Want to see something even more telling?

Electoral Votes (EV)

Obama
Red States: 115
Blue States: 66
Purple States: 43
Total EV: 224

Clinton
Red States: 81
Blue States: 117
Purple States: 110
Total EV: 308

Eligible Voters

Obama
Red: 41,443,965
Blue: 23,224,674
Purple: 16,146,203
Total: 80,814,842

Clinton
Red: 33,992,368
Blue: 45,392,040
Purple: 45,407,021
Total: 124,791,429

Clinton has won states with 308 Electoral Votes – 38 more than the 270 needed to win the Presidency.

Obama will finish out this election cycle with at most 230 Electoral Votes – 40 less that the 270 needed to win the General Election. Where’s he going to pick up those 40 needed EV to win in November? Likely it won’t be Ohio, PA, Florida or West Virginia.

Think about something: Obama is a constitutional law and voting rights professional. He knows the election system inside-out.

How do you take down an odds-on favorite like Hillary?

In strategically dominating the historically low turnout caucuses – the weakest link in the Democratic Preference Elections – Obama secured a vote-lead margin of 299,768 [based on just 1.1 million votes] and a pledged delegate lead of 148 which is 97% of the pledged delegates separating the two candidates.

Without MI & FL, the caucuses control 15.5% of the TOTAL delegates who will attend the 2008 DNC Convention in Denver. This means that 1 out of every 34 votes will control 1 of every 6.5 delegates … and these delegates will vote 2-to-1 pro-Obama, giving the caucuses grossly disproportionate power to select the next Democratic nominee.

Obama knew the weakest link and exploited it for his own purposes.

Smart strategy, but should we be so blind as to fall for it? More states won? More delegates? How do his states-won stack up again Hillary’s state-won? Which are more important in winning the General Election?

Make no mistake about this fact:

Based on 33.8 million votes in the open, inclusive Primary system of voting, Clinton IS the winner and the choice of the people – the voters!

The media and pundits just won’t tell that “Inconvenient Truth”.
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Note: I’ll be publishing my full research on the Primary versus the Caucus system hopefully by Monday, 26th. It has taken over two months to research and document so as to be irrefutable. When I do, I’ll post a link on this website.

Hopefully, all of you who can spread the word will. The Supers need to see this truth before it’s too late and we lose the Democratic party as we know it and the General Election in November.

Thank you. Peniel

http://www.correntewire.com/buyers_remorse_how_rank_file_democrats_rejected_obama_once_he_was_declared_the_inevitable_nominee

see also related demographic charts…

montana has a grand total of 3 electoral votes.

and obama, as well as hillary, will lose montana to mccain. see electoral-vote.com for current polling info. montana will stay red, like all the other red states obama “won.”

obamaloons don’t know shit about general elections.

hillary or mccain. no other option.

Peniel,

I look forward to your finished product as the info you post here is well reason and presented.

excellent analysis, peniel!

sadly, i think the supers know it. they just don’t care. between the money and the threats, they’re afraid to do what they know they should do.

voters, however, are not afraid and cannot be bought (unless soros et al buy diebold, etc., and hack the votes to the produce the counts they want – which i wouldn’t put past them or their puppet, obambi). so unless they pull an outright vote theft, obambi will never be president – thank heavens!

hillary or mccain. no other option.

*hooting*

That is, indeed, what it came down to. And I soooooooo am sick and tired of spending taxpayer money tracking down evil criminals who have sex.

Enuf already. If their wives dump them, that should be the consequence.

Not gazillions of taxpayer dollars, for God’s sake. (pun intended)

I support you Hillary.

The media has lost its mind and they are in the tank for Obama.

Obama’s media control is dangerous and it would grow like a monster if he got to the White House.

Imagine. No one saying anything negative about Obama. Ever–the media would continue to protect and promote him, and keep his secrets, and not tell about what he is doing…

not good.

Wow, read today’s Jake Tapper article on Obama:

What the FARC was Obama talking about?

(Obama is a one man gaffe machine.)

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/what-the-farc-w.html

Posting links to LooneyToons on this site is against TOS!

Wow!

Bloody hell, Obama’s ignorance is fricken dangerous.
We just cannot afford this nonsense right now. He’s a disaster waiting to happen. C’mon superdelegates, get your sh&t together!

…can’t wait for the Rezko verdict…the list goes on….

Yes, pass it around to the super delegates…

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Um, because she’s New York’s SENATOR.

Here’s a shocker – John McCain is popular in Arizona! John Ensign is popular in Nevada! How can this be?

You’re a bit thick, aren’t you dear?

Why you talking to us? Don’t you hear Ahmadinejad calling? He wants to have a little chat with you to see how it’s going with HIS candidate…

THE WHOLE WORLD PREFER OBAMA

GOOD LET HIM GO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD

just please somewhere else

we can’t stand this much “unity”

If you haven’t already –READ THIS PLEASE! :

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10585.html

The MISTAKE Obamanation is making, by prematurely anointing Obama, and his recent strategy of “ignoring Clinton, and looking to the GE/McCain”, is that it has given everyone a WINDOW into what a Obama/McCain matchup would look like.

For example, when Obama tried to hit out at McCain over the GI BILL, and McCain “creamed” him on the issue.

The point is — the cat is already out of the bag — any talk about how Obama will “miraculously” change after the Nomination is completely false. He’s LOSING RIGHT NOW as the Presumptive Nominee.

I know it, you know it, Real Dems know it and you can bet your ass that the Republicans know it!

What is this the Star Trek Troll Tag Team? Move along son, I here Capt. Kirk calling you…

[...] Why We Continue: Hillary and Me [...]

No wonder Obama keeps in contact with Odinga, where else would he learn all about stirring up racial hatred after you lose an election fair and square? Where else would he learn how to get young black men to grab machetes and chop up people in the streets? or how to displace the majority of the populace who didn’t vote for him? or blackmail the govt with violence into creating a post for him as a leader? Disgusting tactics, disgusting persons. Now Obama is going to apply these tactics here? Well – with the number of groups Obama is pissing off, it just might end up being us Hillary supporters that riot (peacefully of course)! For many AA’s are too smart to fall for Obama’s disgusting tactics.

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