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Unelectable Morning Open Thread: RNC Obama Ads

By Uppity Woman on May 26, 2008 at 9:05 AM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Gas Prices, Jimmy Carter

Democrats will lose in November if we nominate Obama. The GOP is ready, and they have four ads on Obama waiting in the queue. Consider this an open thread on Obama’s unelectability.

Obama and The Second Amendment

“Without Preconditions”

Obama’s Ill-Timed Tax Increases

Carter-Obama Taxes

Cooney

Lets don’t forget the Chicago Combine Board Games pay to play schemers, of which Barack Obama was a player. He is just another corrupt Illinois politician, who will make George Bush pale by comparison. Evelyn Pringles contention that if nominated it will be equivalent to throwing the election by the DNC.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0805/S00245.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po7J0f5TMrQ Jeremiah “God Damn AmeriKKKA” Wright

the above link references part 5 of the series on obama and his chicago dirty pay for play business involvement.

Here is a link to the final chapter and all of the other parts of the article series:

http://www.opednews.com/author/author58.html

Mary

Yes, and all THAT, while his “backers” made millions and his poor constituents in his own district literally had no heat.

He ain’t nuthin new.

jwrjr

What electability? “You are a racist if you don’t vote for Obama” won’t work because A. most people aren’t racists and the know it; or B. many of the rest are racist and proud of it. (Regardless wo what the trolls will inevitably say, the readership here comes from category A.) Obama has nothing else to recommend him. So no thinking person will vote for him.

bigkitty

That’s the problem, given the democratic primaries, the votes don’t matter.

They’re stealing the election.
Helen

Don’t forget White people you are the Racists and we Africian Americians are Race Traitors or Uncle Toms. I say this kind of ticks me off since I am only 100% Africian Americians and BO is what half of both races. I think he is an idiot and it is my wish that the Racists and the Race traitors join forces to rid the world of the evil Obama and Hillary rides in on her horse and saves the day.
OBAMA OFFERS ME HOPE–THE HOPE HE GOES AWAY

jwrjr

I rather like your closing line.
http://humorhasit.blogspot.com Shez

May I help clear this up just a little? BO is not half of both races. On his paternal side he is over 43% Arab and just under 7% AA. You have to be 12% by U.S. law to legally qualify as an ethnic faction. BO is running on his DNA genes “appearance” and the fact his father was from Kenya. His Arab father. By law it is correct to say he is half white and almost half Arab. With a tiny dash of AA. BO is misrepresenting himself to fool America.

I’m Native American with a tribal card. My family knows all about strict blood quotum federal specifications to qualify to be sanctioned, and allowed legally on tribal rolls. We have to supply detailed proof. We have to deal with this daily in tribes all across America.

Jonna

Well said. This is probably the biggest lie Obama has been telling. If you have to lie about your race to stir up votes, then that is clearly a power grab.

We don’t need any more politicians of this caliber.
Andy

Shez, that’s interesting. Why would Kenya be consider Arab rather than AA? (pardon my ignorance!). Thanks.

Mary

Kenya is considered African.

But Obama is actually descended from Arab slave traders who traveled through Kenya centuries ago, finally settling in Kenya.

His middle name, by Kenyan culture, signifies his Arab ancestry.

At the time, those Arab settlers considered themselves BETTER than the native Kenyans, and ALWAYS gave their male children an Arab name to signify that they WEREN’T “regular” Africans.

To them, being a “regular” African was LESS THAN.

Andy

OBAMA OFFERS ME HOPE–THE HOPE HE GOES AWAY

Well said Helen. That’s a great line. I’ll adopt it.
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

God Helen, do you know Sugar? She blogs for Clinton and gets harassed horribly for being an AA who doesn’t support Obama. She even had to take her Clinton bumper sticker off her car. How severe can things get?

http://deleted AnninCa

Plus, I couldn’t care less what someone who thinks Keith O. is a political analyst thinks. It’s too silly.
Milly

Greetings in this new week ahead! Be strong Sen Rodham, do not allow the bullies in the senate to make you feel bad, when you return from Puerto Rico, they want to pressure you, do not let them! They are acting weird do to threats to their political careers. If they acted in a way that will damage their political careers it was their fault, and if they need the money from these billionaires to pay for their campaigns, we don’t care. We expect from them to be committed to u,s the ‘voters’, american people, not with those acting like -surrend- to the power of the’mafias’. Trying to pass ‘this threatening pressure onto you and us’…stay firm and we will be you! If they dare and insist to kick you out with their scorn and indifference,and with no real base reprimands,’we the people will do the same to them’…Time to stop the abuse!

Find this article interesting to add weight to the revealing information on those videos:

comes from an article in:

http://www.liberalrapture.com/

What Obama, the DNC, and the compliant, brain dead media has done in trashing Clinton all year is reactionary. It is the opposite of progressive. 50% of the population has been degraded and insulted as a matter of course. As if it is normal. As if it is part and parcel of the Democratic Party’s values. This year we HAD a chance in the Democratic Party to choose someone other than a white male and base that choice on merit. The DNC did not (though the people did ). The DNC has gamed the system to award the nomination to an unqualified minority candidate – thereby proving all the conservatives right. They gave Obama a hand out not a hand up.

Like her or not, support her or not, Hillary Clinton is qualified for the job of President. The “community organizer” from Chicago is not. (Now every time I see an Obamite defending his resume and using “community organizer” as a qualifier for President my eyes roll back in my head automatically. It’s a Pavlovian response. I can’t seem to help it. As far as I can tell – and I’ve looked – he organized some voter registration drives under the umbrella of a church. I help serve meals to the youth group at my church. Can I be President next?)

Clinton’s qualifications never come up in the media. Why is this? I suspect that it would then force an airing of Obama’s. His rump resume would then be seen for what it is: smoke, mirrors, and speeches. What does come up daily is her gender. Usually covertly. References to “tears” and “every man’s first wife”. This is terror on the part of “news” men. Pure terror. What Olbermann and the rest are reacting to is their own fear of castration. You see, it isn’t that woman can’t have some jobs once reserved for men – we have moved past that – it’s that a woman can’t have THAT job. If a woman gets THAT job then all the mediocre men who got promotions over more qualified women are on notice. The jig, as they say, will be up.

What Clinton represents by her presence is much more valuable to true progressives than what BHO represents. The reason is simple. She’s more qualified than him. I could not write that sentence if Colin Powell was running against Clinton. Obama represents the worst failings of late 20th century liberalism: the invitation to view anyone who could show up and be a minority as “qualified.” (Obama is the least qualified serious Presidential candidate in our history – yes, including Lincoln.) This is the opposite of what was intended by affirmative action which was an attempt to right the ship in the face of inbred anti-minority bias. It was not meant to elevate those with thin resumes to jobs that they would not have gotten otherwise.

There are thousands of reason to vote for someone other than Obama in the fall. Electoral nullification is one. Juries do it. I won’t vote for him for reasons that go to his character. But if women and men across the country vote for McCain to let the media elites know that what they’ve done will not stand – I will not be upset or surprised.

Do we control the body politic or does MSNBC, newspapers, billionaires?

http://deleted AnninCa

Great post……and so true.

An inexperienced man who got caught early on playing the race card and lying…..

beats the top-drawer woman.

*sigh*

This is simply too deja vu!

http://Hillarysfault! Arabella Trefoil

Good morning Uppity -

I can’t wait to see what the Obama-sphere will say about these ads.

If only Hillary had stepped aside, the GOP wouldn’t have made these ads.

Hillary created the toxic envinroment that forced the GOP to make these ads.

The GOP didn’t make these ads – Hillary did!

It’s going to conspiracy theories up the wazoo.

http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

Yes, don’t you know that she’s been in league with the GOP during this whole primary process? She’s vying to be McCain’s VP.
I think those ads pretty much tell the whole story of what will happen with an Obama candidacy, and they’re just the tip of the iceberg. I hear a toliet flushing.

http://Hillarysfault! Arabella Trefoil

Oh, you figured out that she wants to be McCain’s VP? Damn, you’re smart.

I can’t wait to read about Keith Olberman’s response to these ads. “Let’s put the blame where it belongs, ladies and gentleman: on Hillary Clinton!”
bert

These ads are devastating. And they are all issues based. The Rs know how to attack and attack well.

GregA

These adds are just probing jabs, they are not ment to be damaging in them selves. This batch of adds is pretty mild and are designed to see where and on what isssues the candidate is vulnerable. These will get mild circulation.

On the other hand, several of these adds seem to be resonating with people they effect (guns and taxes)

Their message will be refined from the what they learn from these adds… And once again, I don’t see any campaign savy on the democrats side (except for the Clintons…) to counter an attack like this.

Instead, I suspect the Obamacrats will just bury their head in the sand and pretend these television adds dont exist and they can just ignore the groups of peope they affect.
http://IthinkIfeel... Pat Racimora

Their underlying message, “not ready to lead,” is what will carry the day. They will have hundreds of examples to choose from that can be easily spun to make this point. It is clever and will be effective.

Then, notice the clever way that McCain is playing it, starting this week. He is casting himself as the “Father” (old, wise, experienced)and Obama as the kid who doesn’t know any better.

A PERFECT storm (next cartoon?)

Now, Hillary will be roundly attacked as well, but they have to just criticize her stands–they can’t play the experience card which, in the end, would do in Obama’s electability ahould he win the nomination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po7J0f5TMrQ Jeremiah “God Damn AmeriKKKA” Wright

The problem with the Obama surrogates is that they have used the “Hillary made this an issue” escuse all primary season.

The problem with that version of reality is that a rational person understands that these issues are the result of Obama’s actions. You cant pass the buch for what you did by blaming someone else and saying it wouldnt be an issue if they hadnt talked about it.

THe problem with this approach in the general is that the Republicans will bring this all up because it goes to his judgement and integrity.

While the idiot surrogates in the DNC can try to blame Clinton for Obama being a weak candidate with major electibility issues, the GOP will place the blame where it rightly belongs…on obama himself.

I wonder if DOnna Brazile will threaten to leave the country if the will of the superdelegates is ignored in november.

http://Hillarysfault! Arabella Trefoil

I’m not saying that Obama supporters have blaimed Hillary for these ads. I’m just joking. (-;

I’m real curious to see how the Obamasphere will respond to these ads, though.
bert

But each of these ads are based on Obama’s own words in debates and stump speeches. They can’t (although they will try) blame Hillary for Obama’s words ’cause as he said – words do matter.

“I wonder if DOnna Brazile will threaten to leave the country if the will of the superdelegates is ignored in november.”

I can only hope. It will be a dram come true.
GregA

Um, I kinda disagree.

The main problem with the Obamacrats is they are dismissive of anyone who does not agree with them. Anyone who falls outside of the narrow group of people they appeal to, they are simply not interested in winning their vote. They applea to people who think that hope and ispiration are enough to run the country… If you disagree with them, well they are uninterested in your vote..

Apparently you can win caucuses that way, but you can not win elections…
Ivory Bill Woodpecker

I’d be willing to chip in to buy the Brazile Nut a ticket out of the country.

missE

They will have their usual temper tantrum but unlike Hillary supporters who state their case like adults should, the Republicans will keep poking the poor distressed children till they are kicking and screaming on the floor.

reality

Look at Obama’s base: undereducated voters in the South who voted for pigment and not for policy; voters in states with high obesity rates, low educational standards and undemocratic caucuses; immature voters who are easily duped and manipulated by music videos; venal hacks who understand HTML and other basic computer languages; sexist adolescents who engage in date rape and other questionable activities; casualties of No Child Left Behind who believe there are 57 states in the union; and victims of corporate welfare with Cracker Jack Box degrees from tertiary institutions of learning who earn over $75,000 per annum in an office position that does not require much thought or effort. These are not people I consider informed or, for that matter, very important.

bigkitty

Yes, that’s about it.

But which category describes the Democratic Congresspeople?

reality

the last category includes most elected officials, especially those who endorsed obama.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Morning Arabella. Wait till you see the Vet ad coming up. And of course, this is the tame stuff, sans swiftboats.

Strawberry

Uppity, these are what I call “the above the belt” ads. Obama supporters have NO CLUE how nasty the GOP can get. I wish you could get the clip of McCain confronting Bush on the SC whisper attack. I think it was on Meet the Press back in 2000. Remember when McCain was accused of having a black child with another woman? What Obama supporters fail to realize is, when a person is willing to throw members of his own party over board just to get elected, anyone could be next.

PAN230

The word/value/concept that I am working with today is “honorable”. From my view (and I consider myself old enough (babyboomer) and enough of a skeptic to be wary of unadulterated hero worship) Hillary has run the more honorable of the two campaigns. I believe that she is by far the more honorable of the two individuals in whom the Democratic Party is about to place its trust. Some of Hillary’s honorableness stems from the wisdom that she and Bill accrued as the result of having lived through Bill’s presidency – and that she has gained by actually doing the work of being a member of the US Senate (rather than spending most of her term running for President). She is also of the “pre-Internet”, “pre-Willie Horton” era when some rules of decorum, adult discourse, and journalistic integrity still existed – those old habits have been hard to break. I will stand by my position that Obama’s tactics have been far more dishonorable and demeaning. And he will reap what he has sown.

bigkitty

Pre internet?

We’re Internet, and we uphold rules of decorum, in fact many do.

It is only one small obtuse group that feels it is protected by anonymity.

And I have to wonder why, it’s only their point of view…
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Pan, baby boomer here too. Do you remember when you were dumb like these college kids are? It takes some adulthood to recognize BS when you see it. Barack Obama is raw BS. And Marxist too!

Ivory Bill Woodpecker

Yeah, in my late years in high school, I considered myself a Libertarian, although I never joined the party.

I wised up fairly quickly, however.

SJ

Barack Obama out of touch and not ready to be President… I love it !!!

http://Hillarysfault! Arabella Trefoil

“out of touch” sounds like “out to lunch.”

talon

Maybe the eliteist think Obama can help them to latch onto the natural resources (oil comes to mind) in Africa and the Middle East but Clinton would push for alternative fuels. Whatever it is that is driving the eliteist they are determined to destroy the democratic party as we KNEW (past tense) it. Maybe
old uncle was right about the greedy whi—WHOOPS– Obama ain’t white is he? Oh Wait– he is half white and according to that guy by the name of Kenneth E. Lamb, Obama is almost half Arabic and 6 1/4% African Negroe. Well then, Obama has three chances to become the next president, the colored votes, the arabic American votes, and the white votes. Only one problem, he can’t get the Hillary Clinton votes .

Cooney

Nope! Can’t get the angry white woman vote. Bitches Unite.

bigkitty

At a certain point it becomes irrelevant, superfluous, you know?

No longer challenges the mind, which separates the Obamas, from the Clintons.

And the Obama’s don’t get it, smart people.

Meaning, conquer and divide is boring, Obama is boring, with the exception of possible drug use, and gay sex, in that he has nothing to offer, nothing to make people think, other than stealing the election. Even his corruption is a bore, all that moeny, and guys like Rezko STILL can’t make ends meet…

But Obama doesn’t see this about himself, so the attempts to further conquer and divide fall flat.

Mary

I think Barak Obama knows EXACTLY what he’s doing.

It isn’t “new.” It’s Chicago writ large.

Anything to win, but with lots of charming BAMBOOZLEMENT and HOODWINKING.

He himself says in his book that Black politicians in Chicago KNOW that race-baiting works.

bigkitty

Since this is an open thread, I just want to add I am sickened by the false piety, and hypocritical sentiment the corporate boys send to the troops on this day.

They are in Iraq because guys like Obama, and Alsammarae, and Cheney, and Halliburton, are making a fortune off of the taxpayers.

Bottom line.

American men and women are dying in Iraq, in large part, for the Alsammarae’s, and Obama’s, and Cheney’s, and Halliburton’s, their mediocre greed.

This time, they can prove it.

From Rezkowatch:

As recently as March 3, 2008, John Batchelor reported that fugitive Alsammarae was still wanted by the Iraqi government:

We want [Alsammarae] back to serve his sentence of fourteen years, … He stole $650 million from the people of Iraq, and from the people of the United States, and he was tried and convicted in an Iraqi court in October 2006 for his crimes. We have a four-inch-thick file of his crimes. He plundered the Ministry of Electricity. Dates, bank accounts, dummy companies, a lot of them in the States. We want him, and we want the money back.”

When asked why an American citizen with a dual Iraqi citizenship, who had served as the Iraqi Minister of Electricity from 2003 to 2005, after being convicted in an Iraqi court was living openly in Chicago in 2008 rather than in Abu Ghraib, the official said, “That’s what we want to know. Armed men broke him out of jail in the Green Zone. He escaped without his U.S. passport to Amman, Jordan, where he hid in the U.S. Embassy, and then to Turkey, where he called us up and bragged he had pizza and a cold beer in his hotel room. We’ve asked the FBI to help us. They sent us to Interpol. We filed a report. And nothing. It’s been a year. We want him back.”

Baar states the obvious—”Iraqi courts are doing their job weeding out the corrupt. It doesn’t look like our Congress is doing theirs.”

Disgusting pieces of cpwardly shit, top to bottom.

May you all rot in prison, corrupt congresspeople.

And the good lord willing, you will…

bigkitty

cowardly, sorry.

Which was it, the scarecrow, who needed a brain?

And the lion courage, right?
rwc

Also we need to ask senatorial shit bags like Reid, Durbin and Whitehouse why haven’t they pressured the FBI to arrest Alsammarae.

Also to ask the FBI why did they take down the Interpol wanted poster of Alsammarae from their website.

So far the D.C. Democrats have shown themselves to be no different than Cheney or Bush.

It would be hard to find a more shameful and corrupt bunch.

bigkitty

Also we need to ask senatorial shit bags like Reid, Durbin and Whitehouse why haven’t they pressured the FBI to arrest Alsammarae

.

Right on the money, top to bottom, they all want a piece of the pie, or they lack the courage to actually DO the right thing, and investigate.

I guess the historical precedent is teapot dome, and I guess it’s time to read the book that recently came out on that scandal, just to gain some perspective of how they cleaned it up the last time…

This is btw, in part how the USSR was broken, corruption, and a war.

You’d think at least one of them would grab a clue…

LOL

Mary

Ahhhh….the Ministry of Electricity.

Think MSNBC and General Electric.

Think Axelrod and Exelon.

Lotta connections to get contracts for building power plants in Iraq, at taxpayer’s expense, while STEALING most of the money to hide in Swiss bank accounts.

Not to mention a SENATOR to help you get a visa to live in Chicago after the Blackwater boys broke you out of jail.

Good ole Chicago politics, eh?

candymarl

I take what the RNC says with a large grain of salt. I am a life-long Democrat. That said, I think the last thing we need is a President that doesn’t know foreign affairs, economics, military affairs, or DC.

Reading about the Rezko affair gives me the willies. What bothers me the most is that people Senator Obama knew for years he now claims were just passing acquaintances. That is typical political doublespeak. So much for change.

I’m not condemning him for it. I just wish he would stop selling himself as a new type of politician. He’s not.

Cooney

Their Board Games operatives are running his campaign. That gives me the willies.
beebop

I have a hard time seeing Chicago politics as an improvement for Washington politics ….

bigkitty

Washington is still worse.

I wonder though, given the systemic corruption, who finally stands up to say “no more,” to call it, who finally sends Congress, and the others, to the doctor?

The Pentagon?

I know some of the military is corrupt, I also know of others who still honor the law, and the Constitution.

I wonder.
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

beebop, I remember when dead people in Chicago voted by absentee ballot.

Taters

I’m not condemning him for it. I just wish he would stop selling himself as a new type of politician. He’s not.

Well said.

bmc

Progressive blogs have begun their final push for Obama with the new narrative of “It’s Over,” The “Writing’s on the Wall,” and “the train’s leaving the station, do you want to be left behind?”

There’s also the “Prepare yourself for the inevitable,” meme emerging, as well as the growing “unity” theme being pushed in the media.

Well, I’m not interested in boarding the “unity” train, to ride along with a candidate who makes me recoil in contempt and outrage. I am happy enough to be left behind at the station if this is the only train to the destination. If they gave me a ticket to ride for free, I couldn’t reject it fast enough.

I’m simply not going there with this candidate. I cannot in good conscience, vote for Barack Obama, a man who is so smug in his arrogance, that he thinks defending the right of Democrats to have their votes counted is nothing but a “transparent” ploy. It’s breathtakingly insulting and stunningly offensive.

I simply cannot believe any Democrat would vote for this loathesome man.

http://Hillarysfault! Arabella Trefoil

It’s over, all right. But not in the way Obama thinks.
beebop

It seems impossible that Democrats are willing to abdicate the count every vote history of this party to the likes of Snobama … so much for moral high ground. It was nice while it lasted, though, eh?
Ellen D

Do I want to be left behind? Oh please,please, please.
Retired

“the train’s leaving the station, do you want to be left behind?”

Only on Amtrak…
bitter

All must obey the Party. All must obey the Unity. All must obey the Messiah from Kenya.

Fuck that shit (hmmm pardon my Francais)
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

“It’s Over,” The “Writing’s on the Wall,”

They don’t know how right they are.
http://deleted AnninCa

Yup……Taylor Marsh is going to invite Obama supporter writers to contribute.

It’s silly. There’s no way her particular niche audience is interested in unity now.

Arabella Trefoil

The GOP has accepted the inevitable: Obama is the nominee. They wouldn’t waste money on commericials against Obama if Hillary still had a chance.

And yet the Hillary supports refuse to face reality.

(I’m joking, I’m joking ..)

bert

Believe me, they have ads in the can already to go when Hillary becomes the nominee.

Arabella Trefoil

Of course they do. But people are used to hearing bad stuff about Hillary. Obama has been sheltered by an adoring media. These ads will have new information for the public. Plus, Obama is not tough enough to deal with this kind of attack.

Obama’s reaction to these attacks will be telling. I bet he can’t handle it and he’ll look weak.
Strawberry

But you can bet your bottom dollar, Hillary and Bill have their own team ready, willing and able to slam it right back at them. Bambi seems to a little flatfooted in that department. “You’re a racist” gets a little stale as a comeback after the first 500 times or so.

talon

Under an Obama presidency the democratic party will be singing GOD DAMN AMERICA all the way to the White House. ERR- wait a minute, I forgot about Michelle. She will put in a change of address for the WHITE HOUSE, so she can be proud for the first time in her fucked up life.

american sawbuck

Would Meescheele allow the White House to still be called the White House????God forbid they get to live there..God Damn the obamas not America..

rwc

Its my belief the DNC and beltway elites like Kennedy, Kerry, Reid and Pelosi dont really care about the rank and file or even if votes are counted.

For them its about pushing their agenda through a puppet(Barky) regardless of what the American people say.
candymarl

I don’t think Obama supporters are thinking rationally at all. They don’t seem to understand something. That you can’t use sexist slurs, call outright for the death of a candidate, call people racists and Uncle Toms, then turn around and ask them: “why won’t you join us”? Gee, I don’t know, why would that be?

Arabella Trefoil

They don’t want to us to be part of the club. They don’t need to “make nice.” They just want us to shut up and vote for Obama.

bitter

Not happening. The hell with the 0bots and their little cult.

ThatsMyCellPhoneSweetie

Check out the new Hominid Views simulated election results from yesterday. Clinton now wins 100% of the election simulations.

http://hominidviews.com/?p=1555

Hey uppity… Mom said thanks for the hug ;>)

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Hey uppity… Mom said thanks for the hug

Tell her she deserves it. She knows what I know. And then some. Don’t forget to give her a kiss. Wish I could give one to my Mom. Oh! And tell her to comment on the blog. Show her how! My mother was a lot older than she is and she had a latpop so she could take it between her homes North and South and not miss a trick.

Andy

I hate to admit this; but….the RNC ads are pretty good; especially the first and last. These are the most damaging I think. The first one b/c of Obama’s own handwriting and “cling-quote’ and the last one about gasoline (given the current prices) and Carter.

Arabella Trefoil

Yes. I noticed that too.

bitter

Obama is the most corrupt and unqualified candidate ever. He’s a tool and a creation – an experiment – of Axelrod. Unfortunately, the Politburo of the Democratic Party will follow history and give themselves another resounding defeat in November.

bigkitty

But, see, they’re trying to steal the primary elections despite the overwhelming votes for Clinton.

Who is to say they won’t do the same to McCain?

Arabella Trefoil

How can they do the same thing to McCain?

Ivory Bill Woodpecker

Plastic Jesus has talked about “reforming” Social Security. Of course, “reform” is code for “hand the SS money over to the jackals of Wall St.” It is already known that PJ has Wall St. connections. Maybe that’s where he’s really getting all that campaign money, in return for a promise to give the Wall St. jackals the keys to SS if he’s “elected”?

In this scenario, the crooked voting machines would be rigged to favor him.

http://deleted AnninCa

These ads are perfect pitch for Democrats disgusted with this primary.

I knew they would hit hard on the taxes. The man acted like only wealthy people have stocks. Good grief, has he never heard of retirement accounts?

Arabella Trefoil

We older folks are supposed to gracefully step aside by dying on our 65th birthdays. So no, he’s not concerned about our retirement savings.

http://deleted AnninCa

No kidding. I couldn’t believe he was so dang dumb on that debate about this issue. He must have missed the part in our history where they took away retirement and plunked us into 401k funds.

Jeesh*

http://humorhasit.blogspot.com Shez

“The “Writing’s on the Wall,” and “the train’s leaving the station, do you want to be left behind?”

More bullshit and mindfuck on their part. For instance to put this in perspective, Hillary was the first to come out on many things in this campaign starting with her online townhall chats, and most of her proposals. They’ve had to copy her or say “yea, what Hillary said”. We have been out front and way ahead of them on what and who Obama is all along. They are the ones that need to catch up, and catch up on reality.

Their Hopey Train is about to enter a very dark tunnel with the Changey Bridge washed out on the other side. They’re just too dumb to see it, what we’ve seen from the beginning that he is totally corrupt and unelectable. We aren’t behind, left behind, or stepping back. We are dodging their wrong paths, misguided steps, and highway robbery filled with misfit bandits and thugs. Their ‘writing on the wall’ is merely temporary graffiti. What they need are some more handwriting experts to explain things to them.

We continue to lead with solid solutions and real ideas that are the best for all Americans and we are still forging ahead on our more stable route. What they don’t like is that we stood up from day one, remain standing strong, and we don’t back down. I liken it to sure footed mountain goats that have a more advantageous viewpoint. We can see for miles and miles.

We refuse to be bamboozlejacked around. And we can see Obama is a rickety unsafe bridge to nowhere but down, to crash on the rocks below.

Arabella Trefoil

Buy your tickets for the Obama Hope Train on line:

http://www.thomasandfriends.com/usa/parents/dowt.html

anna shane

he has a chance of pulling it off, if he’s our nom, by apologizing for demonizing a fellow democrat and inviting Hillary onto the ticket. That’s the only way he can shore up his uniting credentials and his bottom up claim. Should he do neither he’ll have no chance. Already I hear people accepting this nom and loss with at least McCain isn’t Bush. It’s sad, this might have been fun, instead it’s hate filled meanness.

blazer

i wouldnt vote for him even if hillary is on the ticket .

http://kid-kidfunkadelic.blogspot.com/ Kid Funkadelic

No you’re not a racist if you don’t vote for him , but you’re a racist if like Hillary you want to shoot him.You cling close to you gun and God and hate immigrants sound like a Klandestine organization to me.

http://deleted AnninCa

Oh good grief. I’ve never shot a gun in my life and have never allowed one in my house. I live in a suburb of LA and get along great within my own partciularl stew-pot of cultural diversity.

Go to the blogs where they love to discuss this crap.

The rest of us are only sad that we’re seeing exactly the same piling on over nothing that we’ve seen all year.

It’s absolutely deflating to see the media blast against such an outstanding woman as her. I don’t think I’ll ever quite get over this one. If Hillary Clinton gets bashed this way, no woman has a chance in hell.
Ivory Bill Woodpecker

Hillary doesn’t want to shoot Plastic Jesus and neither do I. I’ll be happy voting against his sorry ARAB-NOT-BLACK ass Nov. 4. [I'm assuming that he will be nominated, thanks to those early caucuses his hooligans stole for him.]
Strawberry

Please proof read before you hit submit.
hillarysmygirl

Wow, LOL! And WE’RE the uneducated, illiterate ones! Wooooo, thanks for the laugh today, “Kid Funkadelic,” I wanna be just like you…stupid with a cool, funkalicious moniker!

Concerned Independent

Thanks for the link to the Rezko expose. I knew it was bad, but I didn’t know quite how bad until I read this. Wow!

Answer me 1 question, though; how can Obama (or his supporters) really seriously consider that he’ll get a free pass on this? Do they really think the Republicans /Karl Rove will just ignore this? Talk about blind ambition – his is deaf, dumb, and unaware of anyone else’s existence.

Mary

I wanna know how in the world the Obama supporters expect the Clintons to campaign for him if they’re such awful racists?

And why would Michelle allow them to?

Nomoredem

You can forget about him apologizing. Michelle won’t let him, unless of course he lets her scratch Bill’s eyes out first. I think it would be a huge mistake for Hillary to join the ticket. If I am her after they way I have been treated by Dean and company I don’t even campaign for this crowd. I used to wonder how folks that work every day could vote for a republican. It is clowns like Dean and company that drive us away. Remember Donna, they can stay home or go somewhere else. I think that is what most Hillary folks will do, go somewhere else. To the polling booth and vote for John McCain. I noted this morning that Taylor Marsh will now open up her site to presumably bloggers that support Obama. Hopefully, this site will stay on message.

Arabella Trefoil

I don’t understand Taylor Marsh. One minute she’s a Hillary supporter, the next minute she announces that she’s supporting the “inevitable nominee” Barack Obama. She’s gone back and forth. She also has contradicted herself about her encounter with Hillary at a public function.

Her blog, her rules I guess.

http://deleted AnninCa

I’ll tell you what I can’t handle. Her blasting of her bloggers about Kennedy?

I’m sorry, but that was way too personal for my taste.

But I’m a nut on professionalism. That’s why I don’t participate in TalkLeft, either. Way too personal at times.

I saw where BTD blasted Hillary so bad it turned into a topic over the gaffe. Who needs that kind of heartburn?

hillarysmygirl

And Taylor was a little fatalistic, if you ask me, about Hillary’s RFK remark, like Hill said something bad. NoQuarter and her website used to be the first two sites I clicked on every morning…I think I’m taking her off my bookmarks. Hillbuzz, Savage Politics, Hillaryis44, Common Ills, of course Uppity will remain. And NoQuarter is and will remain No. 1.

suskin

TM is just being a businesswoman, she thinks BO will most likely get the nomination and she wants to shift into a better position to keep her numbers up. She seems to be of the mindset that we will all fall into line like good little Democrats no matter what we are saying today. But I think the strategy may backfire; the GLDWWFIL aren’t reading her blog.

Ivory Bill Woodpecker

Uh, what’s GLDWWFIL?

Concerned Independent

Not sure of the specifics, but I did find it odd how quickly and quietly everyone got out of the Republican race when McCain didn’t really have that commanding a lead. (Since when do Reps bow out gracefully?)And even though Huckabee stayed in for a while, he totally laid off of McCain until he finally conceded. Possible payoff for a pending McCain health problem (perhaps a cancer relapse that makes him have to bow out of the race before November?)?? I wouldn’t put anything past the conservative wing…

Texan

If it comes down to being between McCain and Obama.

All McCain has to do is still be breathing for me to vote for him.

suskin

These RNC ads are kid-gloves, they are no where near as powerful as they could be. IMHO they are almost too nice to be effective. My guess is the GOP is reinventing itself as the reasonable respectful party; instead of attacking BO, the GOP will “inform” the public about BO (the real BO). And this is genius because by contrast the DP has self-destructed – with the help of the morons at CNN & MSNBC.

I still find it impossible to believe that the DNC and the superdelegates will give the nomination to BO given the recent polling and the likely onslaught of attacks or “information” against BO in the GE. I cannot believe that any educated intelligent Democrat doesn’t fully understand the consequences of such a poor decision. The SDs have to know that BO has been given a pass by the MSM and that pass is going to be revoked because the MSM is in it for the money more than the candidate and the news stories will be too juicy to ignore. There is just SO much material – it is incredible that so little has trickled out.

http://deleted AnninCa

I think they are super-effective. It gives those of us considering jumping a reason. I’ve voted straight-ticket Dem for over 30 years.

I need a boost.

suskin

I think the strategy will be effective, especially for HRC supporters. What I meant is these ads don’t have the “gotcha” element that traditional GOP attack ads had. But overall, the concept that Obama isn’t ready lead, isn’t who he says he is and isn’t in touch with American families is a strong message and the delivery – a respectful and rational tone – is genius.

http://deleted AnninCa

I agree.

But I also believe that the key is taxes. Obama is pretty much a disaster on economics. Bitter-gate was the “dramatic” moment.

His tax platform is the real deal.

I would vote for him normally, or maybe not vote at all on that part.

But his taxes?

That gives me an excuse to vote for McCain.

I still haven’t made a decision. I still can’t picture me voting for McCain.

But why would I vote for Obama who offended me deeply AND wants to pick my pocket?

No way.

Mary

Raising taxes meme is the key to appealing to the now-disillusioned Reagan Democrats.

It’ll work. They’ll jump.

Obama’s toast.

Linda C.

Here is another commercial waiting in the wings….

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Just as Obama through his “Friends of Obama” organization sent almost a million dollars to support his cousin’s campaign for socialist power in Kenya, it appears very likely that socialists and anti-American thugs are also participating in the American election process by sending foreign funds to the Obama campaign here in the states.
justsomeone

Soros wants a total gun ban on the US citizenry & he’s backing Obama. And Hillary claims if Obama is the nominee she’ll back him. So??? So much for her support of the 2nd amenment. Party unity trumps all else including the Constitution I guess. With Latin America unifying i.e. “UNASUR” under the influence of Hugo Chavez, who calls the US “the enemy of Latin America”, just how far behind do you think the N American Prosperity Patnership/ NAFTA SuperHighway, whatever it’s called, is? Meanwhile “The America”s Climate Security Act” is going to the Senate floor in the beginning of June. It’ll raise the cost of gas & utilities & then heap another tax on everyone making peanuts above the minimum wage to subsidize those poor bloaks further down the food chain & don’t think it won’t. So more & more this election is boiling down to taxes & Iraq. None of the canidates wants to bring the troops home. McCain wants to stay bogged down in Iraq near the oil & the Dems want to get bogged down in Afghanistan/Pakistan & the Pakies have nukes. Afghanistan set the Russians back decades economically. I see hard times ahead no matter which of the 3 gets elected. Health care costs will keep rising & Hillary will either start handing out waivers to the 54 million uninsured,(& the millions more that cross our borders every yr) like in Massachusetts, or more likely put them all on medicaid & tax the living hell out of us to pay for it right when the boomers are retiring. Don’t forget both Obama & Hillary’s “programs” are based on a 5% interest rate & escalating housing prices, neither of which are happening.
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Since this is a open thread: A note about registering — registered but never recieved the confirmation email. Will it be emailed later?
justsomeone

Bill O’Rilley is doing a spot on Dorn & Ayers tonight. Politics makes such strange bedfellows.
bigkitty

Since this is an open thread, I’m wondering if anyone is familiar with the chord progressions, the musical phrasing, of Charles Ives?

I’ve been listening to “the Alcott’s” from the Concord, Mass, piano sonata, number two, and I was surprised to hear the typical V-I chord phrasing, despite the atonality.

I’m comparing that, to say, Philip Glass, and his more austere phrasing, not sure what to think.

Ives music now strikes me as downright pretty…

I’m trying to transpose a version of “the Alcott’s,” just a personal exercise, but I keep getting this urge to augment the basic V IV I phrasing, I suppose more a reflection of our period of time, chord progressions NOT now predictable…

I read a blog entry where Ives referred to his music as being Proustian, it should provoke a memory, or BE a memory, perhaps I see it also as a reaction to the great forces of technological modernization at work in the early 20 th century, a clash of atoms in conjunction with the transcendentalists, Emerson, Alcott, Thoreau, and Hawthorne.

Mixed with fear.

Either way, it works.

Also, the song “Always the Sun” by the Stranglers, uses the same riff, found in “the Alcott’s”.

I wonder if they ripped it off?

Thieves….

spamccensor

From Wiki, on the Schoenberg’s 12 tone:

The tone row chosen as the basis of the piece is called the prime series (P). Untransposed, it is notated as P0. Given the twelve pitch classes of the chromatic scale, there are (12!) (factorial, i.e. 479,001,600) unique tone rows.

Appearances of P can be transformed from the original in three basic ways:

transposition up or down, giving Pχ.
reversal in time, giving the retrograde (R)
reversal in pitch, giving the inversion (I): I(χ) = 12 – Pχ.
The various transformations can be combined. These give rise to a set-complex of forty-eight forms of the set, 12 transpositions of the four basic forms: P, R, I, RI. The combination of the retrograde and inversion transformations is known as the retrograde inversion (RI).

RI is: RI of P, R of I, and I of R.
R is: R of P, RI of I, and I of RI.
I is: I of P, RI of R, and R of RI.
P is: R of R, I of I, and RI of RI.

A very basic, schematic of layering, now.

And I admire the crispness, the beauty in the order of Schoenberg’s compositions. Others have taken his system, and redefined it, further.

BUT, it would seem there is a need to combine the atonality, (such as it is, because the atonal becomes tonal under this system) with the evolved feel, and warmth, of an Ives. The combinations are infinite.

And don’t ask me why, but nothing says Schoenberg like Southern Culture on the Skids.

Countrypolitan is great album, give it a listen.

Same with Schoenberg Suite for piano, op.25, by Glenn Gould.

spamccensor

Next Step?

Appalachian music, + Schonberg, Copeland,

Also, you can hear the early emergence of 12 tone scaling in Mozart, and Beethoven…
spamccensor

Appalachian music, + Schoenberg, + Copeland

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