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Deny, distract, draw away.

By LisaB on May 26, 2008 at 8:57 PM in ABC News, Barack Obama, David Axelrod, Fox News, Hillary Clinton, MSNBC

Deny, distract, draw away. Let’s see how that works, shall we?

Today on Cavuto (Fox News), Jehmu Green, a Clinton spokeswoman and Sarah Flowers, an Obama spokeswoman, went toe to toe about the Keith Olbermann remarks.

Saying the Obama campaing was “desperate,” Green said they were “latching on” to the Keith Olbermann remarks and “bullying superdelegates” before all the votes have been cast.

Trying to get a response from the Obama campaign, the host switched to Sarah, saying that Senator Clinton was not letting the issue surrounding her remarks about Bobby Kennedy die, and that Senator Clinton issued a letter to the Daily News.

Sarah replied:

“I think the only people keeping that, that unfortunate statement alive are Senator Clinton’s campaign and the press.”

(That was the “Deny.”)

Jehmu Greene responds:

“Sara, Sara, are you kidding me? Because if you look at what happened after that statement, was made, Senator Obama’s campaign sent out Keith Olbermann’s remarks about it to the press. His campaign has been waging a war. . . ”

After Sara admitted the staff HAD been sending the KO stuff out, she tried to deflect the responsibility for it from the senator, saying, “Sure, the media has every right to have an opinion on this. But think about what Senator Obama is doing this weekend.”

(That was the “Distract.”)

Then comes the disclaimer that “this is a weekend we should be focusing on issues that actually matter, not on a statement like this.”

Then comes a swipe at Senator McCain and the GI Bill.

(That was the “Draw Away.”)

Jehmu reminds viewers that Senator Clinton still has an edge in popular vote and that head to head with Senator McCain, Senator Clinton is the best prepared.

The it’s Sara back to the “rules of the game.” Seems like the Obama has a good grasp of the “rules” since they are sending out press packets with Keith Olbermann’s remarks, saying the issue is over, it doesn’t matter and that “we should be talking about issues that matter.”

Jehmu acquitted herself quite well with Ms Flowers, and will most likely draw more ire from that “orange place” for her continued loyalty to Senator Clinton.

Also on the “deny, distract and draw away” tour related to the same “non-issue,” David Axelrod tried the same tactics on ABC This Week with George Stephanopoulos.

Stephanopoulos called out Axelrod, saying:

“But a member of your press staff, yesterday was sending around to an entire press list, I have the email here, Keith Olbermann’s searing commentary against HC, so that is stirring this up, isn’t it?”

Axelrod responds that as far as the Obama campaign is concerned, the issue is over.

(Straight to the “Distract” followed, presumably, to the “Draw Away.” This guy is a pro.)

Here’s a question:

If your campaign is so strong, why are you sending out copies of Keith Olbermann? If you have said this matter is “over,” why are you continuing to send copies of Keith Olbermann? Is the Obama campaign just flat out of ideas?

  • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

    Because they are the most hateful campaign I’ve ever witnessed.

    • Hope

      Did anyone see the disgusting display of an Obama surrogate on Hannity & Colmes tonight. Same type of vile argument as always. She said Hillary and Bill are spewing diarrhea and need Kaopectate.
      Nice argument, huh? The other pundits put her in her place though.

      • ginamc

        Yes, I saw that — completely absurd and hateful. What would compel SDs to endorse this guy is beyond my comprehension.

      • Andy

        She said Hillary and Bill are spewing diarrhea and need Kaopectate.

        Did she use those words on national TV ??

        Unbelievable….This is so gross, these people cannot go any lower…

        No way into the WH !!

      • catriley

        Did anyone see the disgusting display of an Obama surrogate on Hannity & Colmes tonight. Same type of vile argument as always. She said Hillary and Bill are spewing diarrhea and need Kaopectate.

        Please tell me that an adult, on TV, actually used THOSE terms to describe a former President and a current Senator. For realz?

        • briggs

          The Obama cultists have used every four-letter word to call Hillary. They are more evil than anything I’ve seen from the so-called vast rightwing conspiracy.

          • karen for Clinton

            That is vile, but typical of THEM.

            The one thing ob’s entering the national political arena brought out is that there is a segment of our population that is gullible and easily brainwashed. When he made his “bitter” comments he must have been around too many of his own supporters on his bus ride through PA and that was on his mind when he arrived in Frisco.

            The lies they tell will not win them the office. They underestimate the unbrainwashed.

    • Andy

      Indeed they are; and that’s what they inspire for their supporters are the same.

      Here are a couple of comments at YouTube where there is this great video of HRC dancing today in Puerto Rico

      The video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ82U2tZoUE

      The comments

      chuckinia

      Hitlery is a TURD BLOSSUM and she needs to pack it up! The stench is UNBEARABLE!!!!!!!
      She is TOO evil to even return to the Senate….they don’t want her either!!!!!!

      The WITCH is an UNINVITED guest that is not INVITED to the democratic convention!!!
      Get OVER it woman, YOU LOST!!!!!
      Actually, you and your criminal husband should be thrown in JAIL!!!! HUMAN TRASH!!!!

      famboy2

      dumb ass drunk bitch! she needs to stop. this is what the country can expect of her if she ever gets into office. she’ll make her own budget for beer and alcohol. she is drinking the pain that bill caused her away. i would have cheated on her old ass too. oh hilary please stop dancing before you break your old ass back.

      Now, who wants to belong to the same “unity tent” as these pubescent punks?

      • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

        This is what I’ve been saying for weeks. If voting for Obama means standing with people like famboy2, then I know I belong on the other side of the street.

        • bigkitty

          Yawn.

          Even the insults are uncreative.

          Figures.

          Dumb asses.

      • http://akpmedia.com David Axisrutt

        Both chuckinia and famboy2 are on our payroll. They were out of line. They were told to flame all the positive discussion threads they found. We actually took an entire morning to train them how to spell “Hillary”. Obviously they haven’t learned – they’re out of line. I’ll take care of this. Apologies.

      • Lou

        This bile talk not only hurts Senator Clinton but it hurts her many supporters. We will not forget this.

        • hillarysmygirl

          I’ve actually copied this so that I can include it with any requests from the DNC for money :)

    • standard

      Does Axelrod take over Rove’s office in the whitehouse, if Barry is elected?

      • Andy

        Yes; he will indeed.

        No way into the WH for Obama and Axelrod

    • fran

      Did Sarah Flowers really say, “Senator Obama has been nothing but respectful to Senator Clinton through this entire primary process?” As Jehmu said: “Are you kidding?” I guess the Jay-Z shoulder flick doesn’t fall into this category–or the vile race baiting.

      This tactic, that Senator McCain so clearly articulated recently, of sending out surrogates to denigrate an opponent’s character so he can claim the higher ground is so transparent and reprehensible. When Hillary challenges Obama, as in the debates, she does it to his face. He is a dishonest coward.

      • karen for Clinton

        Flowers is so obviously clueless. ob states lies all the time with a straight face and his “messiah bots” do the same. What chutzbah.

        Did ya’ll see talk left today? They have ob’s memorial day speech with another flub – he sees dead people in the audience. He ad-libbed one line and he screwed it up, big time.

        Also he made sexist remarks while pandering to us.

        He can’t reach out to us after all he’s done.

        He should have been toasted and roasted in January but instead we have all had to suffer through his national nightmare of a campaign.

        Ugh, instead of throwing the bum out the SD’s are getting in line behind the sham. Un-f’n real.

        They don’t understand how unelectable he is… funny how we knew it all along.

        Kerry Kennedy and Oprah – ob’s three blind mice.

        • Lou

          Just when you think his campaign can’t get any worse…

          I know the type. I’ve worked with the little snot nosed, empty headed, young white women who are exactly like Sarah Flowers..ugh. They think they are God’s gift.

    • workingclass artist

      Agree with you on that one Bud….EXCELLENT POST LISAB….You are simply applying the Principles of LOGIC…and when this is done the fallacies of the opposing argument become all the more glaring…

      ” Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe…” HG Wells. The Outline of History

      FACTA NON VERBA = ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THN WORDS

  • Dakinikat

    Axelrod makes Rove look downright moral. Once again, Senator Obama shows his meddle by surrounding himself with extremely nasty people. Over and over, he let’s them do all this dirty work and then magically appears above the fray. What! That was just some aid or advisor run amok. I’m such a nice guy! What’s that old saying: Birds of a feather flock together. The more and more I see of Obama and his campaign and Axelrod, the more I think Dubya and his campaing and Rove. I don’t want any part of a democratic equivalent to Dubya. Hasn’t this country had enough of that kind of leadership?

    • Donald from Hawaii

      I wouldn’t go so far as to say David Axelrod is worse than Karl Rove. After all, Rove clearly conspired to successfully railroad former Alabama Gov. Donald Siegelman into a federal prison term.

      However, I think it’s suffice to say that the two are cut from the same bolt of cloth, in that both have doubtless mastered the politics of division to the point of art form, and both possess a demonstrable inability to count beyond 50% +1.

      • Dakinikat

        well, axelrod’s never been a position to do anything like the at least not yet … if he gets something like white house chief of staff or any position, i’d bet a lotta money similar things will happen, you know about chicago politics, right?

        • Mary

          I suspect we’ll see suggested pardons for many of the Chicago crooks Patrick Fitzgerald is now investigating.

          Don’t you think that had a lot to do with WHY they supported his candidacy so early?

      • workingclass artist

        AXELGOEBBLES IS WORSE THAN ROVE FOR 2 REASONS….
        #1. HE IS APOLITICAL AND SO IS HIS CLIENT OBAMA
        #2. BY PLAYING THE RACE CARD THEY EXPOSE OBAMA’S FASCIST PHILOSOPHY….IN THIS THEY PROOVE THE FALLACY OF OBAMA’S CANDIDACY….OBAMA IS NO DEMOCRAT….HE IS FASCIST

        • Lou

          Yeah. He is not a part of a party. Can’t convince me of it.

          Why else would he tear the party down?

      • lisab

        Frankly, I think Axelrod is practicing the Rovian style, just from the left instead of the right.

  • stodghie

    where does barry get such nasty women? by that i mean attitude and deportment.

    • Dawnelle

      seriously considering Randi ho rhodes, stephanie ho miller, stephanie ho powers, rachel ho maddow, mica ho something-ski

      who am I forgetting

      a HO bunch more? lol

      • ELlen

        Real nice Dawnelle – you must be, what, 14? and none of those that you mention are connected to Obama’s campaign…they may support him, but that’s it. He cannot control his supporters just like Hillary can’t control you.

  • Mercedes

    I never believed Obama had any ideas or any substance to begin with.

    A less than one-term senator who as chairman of the NATO subcommittee has not been able to hold a single hearing in a year and a half, who doesn’t know what button to press when on the rare occasions he is present for a vote, and who had a totally undistinguished career as a community organizer (whatever that is) is being promoted as the Savior of Civilization.

    Get real.

    His promoters have nothing, in fact, positive to say, just a lot empty words and slogans.

    The kind of disgusting propaganda described above is all they have to fall back on or, more accurately, to slosh around in.

    Yech!!!

    • Michelle

      What is scary is that I what hear his followers saying is that he is just so “transformative” – “his thinking is so deep” and “his struggles so real” – “all of his issues of dealing with who he is – that is what qualifies him to be president and to save our country.” ICK!

      These people really need to get a life, if they think that a 40-something year old with little to no political experience can actually be the leader of the “free world.”

      • hells kitchen

        sounds like Chauncey the gardner

        • jwrjr

          Are you sure that it should not be either “Chance the gardener” or Chauncey Gardener”?

          • bart

            There once was a movie called Being There, w/Peter Sellars as a guy named Chauncy. Kind of like Woody Allen’s Zelig or Tom Hanks’ Forrest Gump. . .

      • candymarl

        What struggles? He rode in on the back of the civil rights movement. He hardly grew up poor and black in the inner city. But you wouldn’t know that if you listened to the media.

        Did he face racism? I’m sure he did. But get in line.

        I remember facing down National Guard troops in my neighborhood and outside my church.

        Many people died, of all races, creeds, colors, and sexual persuasions when it wasn’t safe and it wasn’t popular.

        People died for supporting civil rights and it had nothing to do with color. It was the content of their character. Even Malcom X came to acknowledge that.

        If Obama can’t stand up for poor black people in his district, against a rich slumlord that cut off their heat, what does he stand for?

        • so saddened

          you used the operative words – you and many of us did it when it “wasn’t safe and it wasn’t popular.” obaby only stands up – actually, doesn’t stand up, just SAYS he does – if it IS safe and most especially if it IS popular. if being in favor of killing baby seals were popular, obaby would be in favor killing baby seals.

          the more i see of this guy and his campaign and his supporters, the more i think even bush wasn’t as bad. and that’s really disturbing.

          hillary or mccain. no other option.

      • Northwest rain

        dealing with who he is –

        Well welcome to the world dumb sh*t snObama.

        We are ALL dealing with who we are! We come into this world as primitive creatures — who need to be socialized and to learn that each of us individually are NOT the center of the world. In the whole scheme of things — as individuals we are meaningless. Think of the billions of unknown individuals who came before us — dead and unknown except a few in history books.

        The children who are turned on by snObma-speak are just so ignorant and self involved.

        I expect that for the next generation snObama might be a footnote in a history book — and the generation after that — he might not even be mentioned — except as a footnote of another footnote.

        Perhaps this is why humans don’t live as long as a redwood Tree — when we start to see humans making the same mistakes over and over again — the human redwood trees would go insane.

        snObama is nothing new — we’ve seen his kind before — and we will see a new version again.

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/ Gloria

    Obama and Richardson are so KARL ROVE!!

    “Video of Memorial Day NM Obama Visit Up…Local Press TOTALLY & SHAMELESSLY COMPLICIT in Boosting Obama”
    http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/

    I am really upset about how the local press has become part of the Obama campaign…as well as the secrecy, and closing out the public. And Richardson is just plain…fake!

    THIS IS SO GEORGE BUSH!!!

  • Michelle

    Flipper is at it again –

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2635405920080527?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews

    even though he said in the Dem. debate over the summer that he would meet with our enemies with no “precoditions” – now, he is saying that that isn’t exactly what he meant – trying to twist and turn away from his “gaffe to principle” stance and turn it into a “clarification.”

    He is SO unworthy of the office of the president.

    • jwrjr

      If his judgement is so good, why can’t he say exactly what he means the first time? Or more likely he says what he means the first time and has to come back and BS around the BS that he stepped in.

  • atypicalBlackPerson
    • Dawnelle

      Ohhhh Kay – NIN I thought I recognized the music. My daughter used to play their CD.

      Very powerful. That is a recent compilation! Wow the talent and credentials of this blog are seriously outSTANDING!!!

      I am humbled daily

      • Michelle

        I know what you mean! Very cool people here – wonder what that says about HRC?!

        Larry – if you’re reading – it would be interesting to know how many people are blogging on the site – what is the traffic? Has it grown in recent days?

        • Dawnelle

          oo i can answer that

          scroll down on the right and click on the little icon that says site meter

          someone pointed the very thing out to me a few days ago

          this place is HOPINGGGGGGGGGGG!!

          ALOHA PLANET EARTH!! :-)

          • Dawnelle

            ARGH

            HOPPING

            giggle

            to much BO talk

          • Dawnelle

            I shouldn’t care

            but

            TOO much not to much

        • candymarl

          I’d say HRC’s people deal in history and facts not emotion. Heck, I like a good speech as much as the next person. But that ain’t enough to get my vote. It’s not what you say but what you do. I haven’t seen Barack do dust. He’s very good at taking credit for others work. How about the black state Senator in Illinois that worked on a bill for years? Then it was taken away from him and Barack took all the credit. Knew lots of those types in the military. Didn’t like them much. I’ve had decades of experience in spotting them. Can spot them a mile away.

        • TeakWoodKite

          I like watching where the hits come from from europe to Lima, neat tool site meter.

          NQ VISITS :

          Total 2,355,879
          Average Per Day 19,265
          Average Visit Length 6:44
          Last Hour 789
          Today 13,506
          This Week 134,856

          PAGE VIEWS

          Total 4,779,335
          Average Per Day 50,395
          Average Per Visit 2.6
          Last Hour 2,580
          Today 41,466
          This Week 352,765

          • Dawnelle

            Keith O WISHES he could have stats that good!! LOL

          • emilyposter

            Very cool! Outstanding job, Larry, Susan and all writers!!!!

    • Michelle

      Awesome! Great video – I hope the protest in DC is HUGE! I voted for HRC in April! Can’t wait to do it again in November!

    • catriley

      Awesome “ATBP” Loved your vid. The comparison between the two of those guys was frightening.

    • http://www.marcysmutiny.blogspot.com/ MessyMarcy

      I so admire (and envy) the ability to make these great videos. The look on the faces of Obama and Bush at about 2:10 is priceless, and the resemblance uncanny.

    • Andy

      Excellent video `atypicalBlackPerson’ very powerful.
      Loved it. Thank you!

    • http://hillaryorbust.blogspot.com Hillary or Bust

      Great video – it made me sad though. You can clearly see a light in Hillary, a goodness, compared to Bush and Obama, and I’m very sad at the thought that she might not get to be president due to this joker. I have waited 8 years for her to run and who would have thought she’d be derailed by a fake and a phony.

      Praying that Obama’s karma catches up to him BEFORE he gets the nomination, and we can have Hillary as our next prez.

    • wry

      WOW! Just wow!

    • emilyposter

      Loved it. Marked it as a favorite.

    • no waffles

      Terrific video thank you so much!

  • dnesser

    Obama’s entire campaign has been out of the Republican play book. I can’t believe that the Democratic Party is not counting the votes in MI and FL. The same people who screamed in 2000 that every vote should be counted. The voters did NOT break any rules. They went and voted. I’m sure the game plan is to count the votes and delegates when it doesn’t matter anymore. I am one Democrat that will NEVER vote for Obama.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

    The not ready for prime time players have been given the spotlight by the MSM. And it’s a clusterfuck.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/blog/ Truthteller

    I notice Ogremann published these comments at Kos before they were aired. Just how embroiled are the blogs in the Obama machine? How much money has been distributed to bloggers through advertising revenue and through other means?

    • missE

      Yeah he did give them the heads up.

      The Kos people and those hanging around to see his head explode on live TV are the only ones watching Olbermann.

    • Horse with no Name

      KO is jockeying to legitimize himself as Press Secretary for obama.
      At least that is what I would bet a days wages on.

  • candymarl

    But according to Obama supporters Obama has no control over his staff. That’s why the Keith Olbermann info was distributed. Does that include his WH staff when he becomes president?

    Also, remember that national polling wasn’t pitting Clinton against Obama?

    Well now there’s a Gallop poll that shows Obama as the preferred nominee for the Democratic nomination.

    But not so fast.

    But the same poll shows Clinton beating McCain, nationwide by a better margin than Obama.

    So the Democrats prefer to nominate a candidate that may or may not win within the margin of error over one that wins without the margin of error – Clinton.

    What did we pro-Clinton people discuss today? Polls and the lack of reporting.

    How much do you want to bet they’ll report the poll that shows the Democratic preference is Obama. Not the poll that shows Hillary beating McCain by a wider margin.

  • Annagain

    It is my sincere prayer that Karma will visit David Axelrod soon.

    I am broken hearted that his campaign (for which Obama must bear equal responsibility) would be so hateful as to set race relations back in this country 40 years and to so insult Hillary
    Clinton’s supporters — worst of all, to defame Senator Clinton and Pres. Clinton in this way.

    I have a funny feeling this latest debacle will backfire on them and I hope it does in a very big way. No one could deserve voter retribution more than this hateful, diabolical bunch.

    How refreshing if the citizenry would wake up to this horrid manipulation and finally turn their collective backs on Mr. Hopey Changey’s campaign of lies, distortions and misinformation.

    • Dawnelle

      One thing that last video reminds me of is also that Bush and Obama have another thing in common

      BOTH ran as the EXACT OPPOSITE of what they REALLY were!!

      Uniters? Nope Destroyers

      Change? Nope Regressives

      hello? dialing all delegates

      you will go down in history either way

      it’s YOUR choice how you wish to be remembered

      as a bought OFF pawn of the hopey changey BS GENERATION

      OR

      serving to fulfill the original purpose of the SUPER DELEGATEs – to WIN IN NOV!!

    • Nellie

      Not Hopey Changey – Thems just words

      It is the Hate, Anger and Entitlement Campaign

    • Andy

      It is my sincere prayer that Karma will visit David Axelrod soon.

      And Donna Brazile.

  • Betty

    I haven’t seen Chelsea Clinton that much but that Sarah Flowers vaguely reminds me of her. If the resemblance isn’t all in my head, then I can’t see it as being anything but a deliberate attempt to co-opt some of the good will people feel for Chelsea for Obama.

  • sonia
  • http://akpmedia.com David Axisrutt

    Senator Obama’s campaign sent out Keith Olbermann’s remarks about it to the press.

    Who leaked that information?

    But think about what Senator Obama is doing this weekend.

    Yes. I think he’s down in the BVI again.

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    Tonight, I watched the PBS special on Harry Truman. The producers of the documentary covered the 1946 mid-term elections when the Republicans were able to regain control of the congress and senate. Truman took a lot of blame for that, because his harsh stand against the labor unions angered the working class voters. “It wasn’t that the working class Democrats voted Republican,” the narrator said. “They just stayed home and didn’t cast a vote that year.”
    I think history is about to repeat itself and some people are either too ignorant to acknowledge it or too arrogant to think it can happen to them.

    • Mary

      YEP.

      And the arrogant Obamabots and DNC members openly say, “We don’t need em. We got a new coalition.”

      Well, allright, then. Adios.

  • BlackmanNot4Obama

    I wish I would vote for this Obama dude. I refuse to “unite” behind him and the Democratic party. If does become the nominee oficially I will be reregistering as an independent pronto.

    • catriley

      Yeah, I think I’m going the Independent route, as well. I think maybe most of us here have figured out we’re pretty independent (considering we are obviously immune to the koolaid.) ;)

      • wry

        Hey Catriley! Aren’t you an Ex Marshan? Too bad she sold us out, huh?

  • briggs

    Axelrod is a dirty operator who is running a scorched earth campaign. He couldn’t care less about Democrats or the country. All he cares about is getting his puppet Obama into the White House – AT ANY COST.

  • jangles

    Could we create a “wall of shame” and collect the ugly, misogynist comments of O supporters? That could make a great ugly full page ad—Why we will not vote for Obama.

    • Andy

      Yeah !! And we should send this to the DNC and the MSM
      as a big collage of “Obama’s message of hope”…

      I posted 2 above that found on YouTube.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    How can you not just despise the man?

  • jyotinc

    The Obama-cultist are so vile compare to Republicans.

  • brandy

    The week to go Indepenent is June 1-8.

    This will send a message to the Democratic Party that it no longer represents us.

  • baby-puppy

    you know Andy, I seriously wonder at people who post these vile Obamabot comments in their entirety, as if a link would not be enough. Why any Hillary supporter would want to post this garbage is way beyond me.

    • Andy

      To make the point they are indeed full of hate.
      Because it is really, seriously, hard to believe we are living this; inspired by a shameful campaign who entice their supporters to write this vile.
      We had a post not long ago here at NQ if memory serves me by Uppity (?) in which we were encourage to post some that we could find. The idea was to collect this trash and send it to the DNC.

      I was just sent a certified survey from the DNC by mail (I had to sign and had a number attached to my name). It cam with a long letter from Dean (and a more tepid one from Hillary) asking for money for the DNC and answer 16 questions plus add a comment for the
      “Democratic nominee” to fight McCain.

      Well, imagine what I sent back to Dean.

      • karen for Clinton

        ha ha, yep, mine had lots of things crossed out… 50 states became “48″ etc.

        the side margins were small but my comments filled them.

        they are perhaps having second thoughts about their actions, but none of us will believe them until we hear that

        1) they will count the votes
        2) they tell the superdelegates to rally behind the most electable candidate in the fall
        3) they acknowledge the major issues voters faced in the caucuses and the intimidation and strong-arming of Clinton supporters
        4) they throw Brazile off for railroading the demise of the party
        5) they acknowledge their mistakes and the real rules regarding Fl and Mi
        6) they speak up about the sexism against Hillary and the race-card played against Bill and make public strong statements in support of the only two-term dem president in decades
        7) they stick a piece of duct tape over every single persons mouth who called for Clinton to get out prematurely

        well 7 is negotiable. I’ll settle for the admission of mass railroading of the most viable and popular candidate in a official DNC statement.

        • Andy

          karen for Clinton:

          Glad you got it too and tell them what we think as well !!

          I hope the guys conducting the survey pass along some of the comments to Dean.

          Why do you think it was “Rushed” and
          to be send back in “72 hours” ?

          I thought they might be taking the temperature before May 31st; but thta might just be wishful thinking on my part… (?)

    • Andy

      To make the point they are indeed full of hate.
      Because it is really, seriously, hard to believe we are living this; inspired by a shameful campaign who entice their supporters to write this vile.
      We had a post not long ago here at NQ if memory serves me by Uppity (?) in which we were encouraged to post some of tehse that we could find. The idea was to collect this trash and send it to the DNC.

      I was just sent a certified survey from the DNC by mail (I had to sign and had a number attached to my name). It cam with a long letter from Dean (and a more tepid one from Hillary) asking for money for the DNC and answer 16 questions plus add a comment for the
      “Democratic nominee” to fight McCain.

      Well, imagine what I sent back to Dean.

    • wry

      I won’t click links to certain sites. I’m avoiding them.

  • brandy

    Correction: Independent.

    Apologies for the spelling error.

  • JF

    “Is the Obama campaign just flat out of ideas?”

    —

    Doesn’t this imply that they had ideas in the first place?

    • Dawnelle

      (chuckle)

      well something they did propelled them into a pretty solid lead thus far

      it’s not just that Hillary got stabbed in the back but also that SOMEONE knew their chit about crooked caucuses …….. it’s hard to keep ahead of evil doers when they are always thinking of ways to SNAFU and FRIG things up

      as MOST people are just trying to get along – one foot ahead of the next by day

      spending your days strategizing (?) how to destroy someone must be very energy destroying. I can’t think of any amount of money that would sell me on that job. Nawp!

      gnite Mother Earth, gnite Hillary, gnite No Quarter! You give us ALL a reason to FIGHT ON!! THANKYOU!

      paz

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

    I received a FW email from one of my Aunts today I nomally don’t open FWs but the subjest line mentioned barky so I opended it to find this, its all stuff we know but its good that the info is getting around.

    On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:48:04 -0400, ‘LTG Bill Ginn’ USAF ret. forwarded the following:

    Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin,
    presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he
    doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

    According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171,
    During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present
    except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag
    with the right hand over the heart.

    ‘As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking
    sides,’ Obama said. ‘There are a lot of people in the world to whom the
    American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a
    war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should
    be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song
    ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might
    salute it.’

    Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president!!
    I, for once, am speechless. He has absolutely NO pride in this country!!!!!
    This is outrageous!!!! He doesn’t deserve to be dogcatcher!!!
    (Oh, sorry dogcatchers, I mean you no disrespect.)

    LET’S SEND THIS CLOWN DOWN THE ROAD KICKING ROCKS!!!!

    • http://hillaryorbust.blogspot.com Hillary or Bust

      Geez oh pete, did it ever occur to him that the “bombs bursting in air” were due to our fight to be FREE of British oppression? It’s not like we were throwing bombs at little children in third world countries in that song.

      • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

        He looks down on a song that is a symbol of American pride.

    • atypicalBlackPerson

      That almost reads like a joke. :-)
      He’s actually dumb enough to make a statement like that and still be running.

      I mean, it’s no so bad on its own (except for the “taking sides” comment — is he not on our side? [rhetorical question of course, we know he's only on his side]), but combined with is other actions and associations, and subsequent hypocritical actions and associations, you’d think he would stay far away from anything that renews questions of patriotism.

      He’s the unpatriotic version of GWB (not that Bush’s brand of patriotism has done us any favors). ;-)

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      There are a lot of people in the world to whom the
      American flag is a symbol of oppression

      Why does this coming out of his mouth not surprise me? He seems a whole lot more interested in other parts of the world than he is in America. Frankly, I think he should pack up and move to Pakistan. Scuse me, that’s POCKISTON.

      • atypicalBlackPerson

        I’d like to see him then run out of Pakistan by Babu Bhatt.

        Mr. Obama’s a bad man, a very, very bad man. :)

        • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

          Babu wagging the big finger.

    • so saddened

      omg – another 527 ad writing itself!

      what is wrong with this clown?

      even if you buy his shtick about the national anthem, he should’ve said america the beautiful is better, not i’d like to teach the world to sing. but i guess it all makes sense – just like obaby and his campaign to come up with a tv commercial for a recommendation. after all, that’s all he is.

      hillary or mccain. no other option.

    • karen for Clinton

      This is a false forward, he didn’t say that.

      He has said enough in reality to discredit him and make him (and his wife) totally unacceptable presidential material, but this email is fake.

      Keep to the real things he’s done, there are surely enough of them.

  • WendyPrince

    Obama is weak and the polls show it!

  • orionATL

    lisaB -

    this was very informative for me.

    i am printing it out

    and putting it in my folder on

    how to think about political manipulation.

    these same techniques, by the way,

    illustrate how to short-circuit or corrupt any public discourse.

    • lisab

      Thank you very much!

  • Zyle

    I am beginning to think that Keith Odorman is even more biased in favor of BO than Priss Matthews.

  • beachnan

    Waiting for Olberman’s head to explode!!!! Waiting… waiting… waiting… Karma will come around and bite him in the ass and it will be oh so sweet.

  • emilyposter

    I thought Obama was quick to commiserate with Hillary over the non-issue comment. But Axlerod and his people are sending KO notices out? How utterly disgusting. Wonder if KO is bought and paid for.

    • Andy

      I thought Obama was quick to commiserate with Hillary over the non-issue comment. But Axlerod and his people are sending KO notices out? How utterly disgusting.

      All planned : that’s their dirty game.

  • OxyCon

    If the Obama a-holes like David Axelrove think they can score cheap political points sending out that lunatic Keith Olbermann’s rant, then please, lets all send out Olbermann’s rant as far as we can send it. Let’s sent it to all the middle aged women who support Hillary Clinton and lets sent it to all the hard working middle class families that support Hillary, and lets inform these people that the Obama campaign is using Olbermann’s rant to try and rip Hillary Clinton to shreds.
    That’ll fix their disgusting, vile, asses.
    That’ll cost Obama and Axelrod about 50 million votes.

  • http://deleted Kathleen

    I’m so angry that I can hardly contain the growing hatred I have for BO, because of he and his henchmen were willing to do to gain power.

    The Obama camp’s actions have been dispicable in every way. They can never change my mind, I don’t care how much they try to play the “nice” card in order to destract us from what they have done to Hillary throughout this race.

    Their behavior towards one of their own is unprecedented and unforgivable. I sincerely hope and pray that those of us who stood with Hillary and continue to do so, will never allow them to fool us into supporting this guy.

    I anticipate the bullshit coming out of the BO camp to woe Hillary supporters is going to be as disgusting to me as their efforts were to destroy her. Maybe worse, because they will actually be dillusional enough to take for granted that by the Convention, we will forget what they have done to one of the best democratic candidates for president we’ve seen in this generation.

    I will never, never, never support BO. I will continue to work my heart out for Hillary to win this race and if they manage to steal this nomination from her, I will work my heart out to make certain he never gets in the White House.

    Too much, too little, too late, BO.

    • Mary

      Likewise.

      I’m gone. Period.

  • OxyCon

    Jehmu Green did really good. Obama’s flack looked like an automated droid that was programmed to spew the same crap over and over.

  • Kinky Ogremann

    Lie, cheat, and steal – Obama’s new politics. No thank you and NOBAMA!

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  • Room 101

    Deny, deny, deny… counter accuse.

    • Mary

      Very Karl Rovian, don’t you think?

      THIS is what they call “unity” and “new politics” that is “better than the old.”

      Righty-O.

  • WendyPrince

    The entire MSM is vile! Keith Olberman is one of the ones that must go! He should be fired with Jack Cafferty and Chris Matthews!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Well, the good news is that the focus is now on the lies about this dust-up from Obamaland.

    Bill Clinton is getting some press finally about the head-to-head polls showing Hillary beating Obama even in states where he won.