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		<title>By: Kelly&#8217;s Court On Suing Slanderers - **Open Thread** : NO QUARTER</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1226491</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly&#8217;s Court On Suing Slanderers - **Open Thread** : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] attorney threatening bloggers and other media outlets for slandering Sarah Palin (&#8221;Finally Comeuppance For Faux Journalists?&#8220;). I am not an attorney (though I did work as a prisoner&#8217;s rights paralegal at one [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] attorney threatening bloggers and other media outlets for slandering Sarah Palin (&#8221;Finally Comeuppance For Faux Journalists?&#8220;). I am not an attorney (though I did work as a prisoner&#8217;s rights paralegal at one [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mama Cassie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1226042</link>
		<dc:creator>Mama Cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferd, my apologies for misreading your name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferd, my apologies for misreading your name.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1226014</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you both. I was afraid I&#039;d crossed the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you both. I was afraid I&#8217;d crossed the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1225916</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, you terminally obtuse asshat, she is serving &lt;strong&gt;us&lt;/strong&gt; by being there and not him. She is doing this for the good of the country because she is a patriot unlike That One at whose feet you worship daily. He&#039;s just after the adoration of dimbulbs like you and the glory of being POTUS, the shallow, callow little prissy-man he is.

Her service has nothing to do with him and everything to do with her, you stupid shill. Hell, you&#039;re just another dime-a-dozen cellar-dwelling troll with no life, little gray matter, and lots of time on your hands. You wouldn&#039;t possibly understand the concept of service as you are just another taker. Dry up you worthless toady.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, you terminally obtuse asshat, she is serving <strong>us</strong> by being there and not him. She is doing this for the good of the country because she is a patriot unlike That One at whose feet you worship daily. He&#8217;s just after the adoration of dimbulbs like you and the glory of being POTUS, the shallow, callow little prissy-man he is.</p>
<p>Her service has nothing to do with him and everything to do with her, you stupid shill. Hell, you&#8217;re just another dime-a-dozen cellar-dwelling troll with no life, little gray matter, and lots of time on your hands. You wouldn&#8217;t possibly understand the concept of service as you are just another taker. Dry up you worthless toady.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1225915</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By your logic, Sebelius was a quitter. You asked for a Gov who wasn&#039;t elected to something else who resigned. Sebelius wasn&#039;t elected to anything new, Obama was. The people of Kansas elected Sebelius to serve, and she resigned. The people of Kansas didn&#039;t elect Sebelius to serve unless someone offered her a better job.

And, to split the difference here, there are at least somewhat valid criticisms of Palin - for one - &quot;what, Palin resigned because she thought 3 years was too much experience&quot; . Try using something like that.

Or try to prove your point. If there&#039;s some sort of official list of &quot;good reasons to resign&quot; and &quot;bad reasons to resign&quot;, I think that might help to make your case.

To this point, your argument consists of a dislike of Palin and a desire to see Palin called a quitter.

Recap: you need 1) evidence that others were called &quot;quitter&quot; 2) an agreed-upon list of acceptable reasons to resign and unacceptable reasons to resign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By your logic, Sebelius was a quitter. You asked for a Gov who wasn&#8217;t elected to something else who resigned. Sebelius wasn&#8217;t elected to anything new, Obama was. The people of Kansas elected Sebelius to serve, and she resigned. The people of Kansas didn&#8217;t elect Sebelius to serve unless someone offered her a better job.</p>
<p>And, to split the difference here, there are at least somewhat valid criticisms of Palin &#8211; for one &#8211; &#8220;what, Palin resigned because she thought 3 years was too much experience&#8221; . Try using something like that.</p>
<p>Or try to prove your point. If there&#8217;s some sort of official list of &#8220;good reasons to resign&#8221; and &#8220;bad reasons to resign&#8221;, I think that might help to make your case.</p>
<p>To this point, your argument consists of a dislike of Palin and a desire to see Palin called a quitter.</p>
<p>Recap: you need 1) evidence that others were called &#8220;quitter&#8221; 2) an agreed-upon list of acceptable reasons to resign and unacceptable reasons to resign.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1225913</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And unless you want me to call you Mamma Casie, you should respond to me using &quot;Ferd&quot; as my moniker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And unless you want me to call you Mamma Casie, you should respond to me using &#8220;Ferd&#8221; as my moniker.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1225909</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dole showed great integrity when he resigned the Senate for his Presidential run.

Sarah Palin is showing that same integrity and being burned for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dole showed great integrity when he resigned the Senate for his Presidential run.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin is showing that same integrity and being burned for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1225908</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my meaning was succinct. She was damned if she did and damned if she didn&#039;t and I would rather have someone else running the ship of state if the current occupant could not perform their functions due to frivolous lawsuits taking up so much of their time. You might have a different take and that is your opinion and by the same token, I have a right to mine.

In reality, her situation is not entirely analogous to that of the Clintons and is neither justification for nor against her decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my meaning was succinct. She was damned if she did and damned if she didn&#8217;t and I would rather have someone else running the ship of state if the current occupant could not perform their functions due to frivolous lawsuits taking up so much of their time. You might have a different take and that is your opinion and by the same token, I have a right to mine.</p>
<p>In reality, her situation is not entirely analogous to that of the Clintons and is neither justification for nor against her decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Mama Cassie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1225905</link>
		<dc:creator>Mama Cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, are you seriously telling me that what Palin faced was worse than what Bill Clinton faced? Ethics complaints? Pshaw! Clinton was impeached! Late-night comedians? Those guys made their entire living on Clinton jokes. SNL even ridiculed 12-year-old Chelsea&#039;s looks (so did John McCain). He took everything they had and kept smiling, because he knew that it wasn&#039;t about him, it was about us. Sarah Palin took her toys and went home. I find nothing admirable in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, are you seriously telling me that what Palin faced was worse than what Bill Clinton faced? Ethics complaints? Pshaw! Clinton was impeached! Late-night comedians? Those guys made their entire living on Clinton jokes. SNL even ridiculed 12-year-old Chelsea&#8217;s looks (so did John McCain). He took everything they had and kept smiling, because he knew that it wasn&#8217;t about him, it was about us. Sarah Palin took her toys and went home. I find nothing admirable in that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1225886</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She couldn&#039;t do them the job she was hired to do because of all the frivolous suits being brought against her. She was damned if she did and damned if she didn&#039;t, as RRRA mentioned.

Your take is much different from mine--I would not want someone in my employ who, because of personal difficulties could not perform their function in the manner prescribed by the position description. I would gladly accept their resignation with thanks for their previous service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She couldn&#8217;t do them the job she was hired to do because of all the frivolous suits being brought against her. She was damned if she did and damned if she didn&#8217;t, as RRRA mentioned.</p>
<p>Your take is much different from mine&#8211;I would not want someone in my employ who, because of personal difficulties could not perform their function in the manner prescribed by the position description. I would gladly accept their resignation with thanks for their previous service.</p>
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		<title>By: Mama Cassie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1225874</link>
		<dc:creator>Mama Cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what bothers me the most about Palin&#039;s decision. Yes, she&#039;s been subjected to a lot of attacks. Well, politics ain&#039;t beanbag. But think about another politician who faced unfair attacks: Bill Clinton.

I still remember how proud I was of Clinton when, in the face of all those ridiculous Republican slurs (including, you may recall, truly despicable jokes about his daughter), he said he would keep fighting for voters &quot;until the last dog dies.&quot; Whatever Sarah Palin&#039;s been through, her opponents never went so far as to impeach her on trumped up charges. Bill&#039;s legal bills dwarfed anything Palin is facing. But he didn&#039;t quit; he fought through all those slanders and told the GOP where to stick it. And he won.

Or take Hillary. After spending 8 years as the most vilified First Lady since Eleanor Roosevelt -- actually worse, since Eleanor was never accused of murder -- no one would have blamed her if she had headed off into a quiet, well-deserved retirement. But instead, she dove right back into the arena and won a Senate seat. And then when she ran for president, and faced all those sexist attacks, it would have been easy for her to make it all go away by dropping out, but she kept on fighting until the last primary. And when she finally conceded and endorsed Obama, we all assumed she&#039;d go back to her safe Senate seat and become an elder stateswoman of the party. But once again, she left that safe seat because she wanted to serve her country.

The common thread among both Clintons is that they believe so strongly in helping people that they refuse to let petty attacks keep them from their jobs. We still don&#039;t know why Sarah Palin walked away from her responsibilities to the voters of Alaska. Maybe it was because she was sick of the attacks on her family. Maybe it was to position herself for &#039;12. Maybe it was just to make money to cover her legal bills. All of those reasons may be understandable from a selfish point of view. But that&#039;s just the point. They&#039;re all selfish. Can you ever, in a million years, imagine Bill or Hillary walking out on a public-service job like that?

As an employer, I would never tolerate one of my employees walking out on the job without a good explanation, and I certainly wouldn&#039;t turn around a few years later and hire them for a more important job. I feel the same way about Sarah Palin walking out on her &quot;employers&quot;, i.e., the voters of Alaska.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what bothers me the most about Palin&#8217;s decision. Yes, she&#8217;s been subjected to a lot of attacks. Well, politics ain&#8217;t beanbag. But think about another politician who faced unfair attacks: Bill Clinton.</p>
<p>I still remember how proud I was of Clinton when, in the face of all those ridiculous Republican slurs (including, you may recall, truly despicable jokes about his daughter), he said he would keep fighting for voters &#8220;until the last dog dies.&#8221; Whatever Sarah Palin&#8217;s been through, her opponents never went so far as to impeach her on trumped up charges. Bill&#8217;s legal bills dwarfed anything Palin is facing. But he didn&#8217;t quit; he fought through all those slanders and told the GOP where to stick it. And he won.</p>
<p>Or take Hillary. After spending 8 years as the most vilified First Lady since Eleanor Roosevelt &#8212; actually worse, since Eleanor was never accused of murder &#8212; no one would have blamed her if she had headed off into a quiet, well-deserved retirement. But instead, she dove right back into the arena and won a Senate seat. And then when she ran for president, and faced all those sexist attacks, it would have been easy for her to make it all go away by dropping out, but she kept on fighting until the last primary. And when she finally conceded and endorsed Obama, we all assumed she&#8217;d go back to her safe Senate seat and become an elder stateswoman of the party. But once again, she left that safe seat because she wanted to serve her country.</p>
<p>The common thread among both Clintons is that they believe so strongly in helping people that they refuse to let petty attacks keep them from their jobs. We still don&#8217;t know why Sarah Palin walked away from her responsibilities to the voters of Alaska. Maybe it was because she was sick of the attacks on her family. Maybe it was to position herself for &#8217;12. Maybe it was just to make money to cover her legal bills. All of those reasons may be understandable from a selfish point of view. But that&#8217;s just the point. They&#8217;re all selfish. Can you ever, in a million years, imagine Bill or Hillary walking out on a public-service job like that?</p>
<p>As an employer, I would never tolerate one of my employees walking out on the job without a good explanation, and I certainly wouldn&#8217;t turn around a few years later and hire them for a more important job. I feel the same way about Sarah Palin walking out on her &#8220;employers&#8221;, i.e., the voters of Alaska.</p>
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		<title>By: Mama Cassie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1225849</link>
		<dc:creator>Mama Cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Dole quit after he had already secured the nomination. And he lost the election by 8 points. Not the best model for Sarah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Dole quit after he had already secured the nomination. And he lost the election by 8 points. Not the best model for Sarah.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27342/finally-comeuppance-for-faux-jouranlists/#comment-1225831</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dole quit mid-term and the media hailed him for his audacious decision. &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dole quit mid-term and the media hailed him for his audacious decision. </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rove and Huckabee need to keep their traps shut and wait and see what happens rather than talking out the side of their butts.

Is there anyone other than Palin that has the cajones to step up for the GOP?  The party is dying and they continue to stab at it from the inside out. 

Remember when Dole ran for the 3rd time and how awesome every news organization said how awesome that was?

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/1996/05/16/1996-05-16_dole_leaves_the_senate_he_qu.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rove and Huckabee need to keep their traps shut and wait and see what happens rather than talking out the side of their butts.</p>
<p>Is there anyone other than Palin that has the cajones to step up for the GOP?  The party is dying and they continue to stab at it from the inside out. </p>
<p>Remember when Dole ran for the 3rd time and how awesome every news organization said how awesome that was?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/1996/05/16/1996-05-16_dole_leaves_the_senate_he_qu.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/1996/05/16/1996-05-16_dole_leaves_the_senate_he_qu.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question mark after a statement is the fact killer on all of the supposed news networks. 

It&#039;s one of three things:
1. They don&#039;t actually know what the news is 
2. We are supposed to go out and find the news
3. They are making it all up

I think it&#039;s most likely #3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question mark after a statement is the fact killer on all of the supposed news networks. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s one of three things:<br />
1. They don&#8217;t actually know what the news is<br />
2. We are supposed to go out and find the news<br />
3. They are making it all up</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s most likely #3.</p>
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