Comments on: Invasion of the Coal Thugs http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/ Sun, 27 May 2012 07:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Eastan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226800 Eastan Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:53:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226800 I don't know about what happened to you. But I can assure you of this. I have met the festival goers. This video was not staged, and the State Police have opened an investigation. I don’t know about what happened to you. But I can assure you of this. I have met the festival goers. This video was not staged, and the State Police have opened an investigation.

]]> By: Ferd berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226614 Ferd berfle Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:00:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226614 There are better ways to get at the coal, if one must get at it. I live in East Tennessee and we won't stand for that sort of wholesale destruction. The problem we have downstream with the ash pile from TVA is nothing compared to the disaster that is looming for West Virginia when these denuded, blasted mountaintops start giving up their once-sequestered poisons to runoff. If you want an idea of the consequences of irresponsible mining, look no further than Tar Creek, Oklahoma. It was a zinc mine but the long-term consequences are much the same. What is being exposed to the elements should have remained below the surface. There are better ways to get at the coal, if one must get at it. I live in East Tennessee and we won’t stand for that sort of wholesale destruction. The problem we have downstream with the ash pile from TVA is nothing compared to the disaster that is looming for West Virginia when these denuded, blasted mountaintops start giving up their once-sequestered poisons to runoff. If you want an idea of the consequences of irresponsible mining, look no further than Tar Creek, Oklahoma. It was a zinc mine but the long-term consequences are much the same. What is being exposed to the elements should have remained below the surface.

]]> By: Peggy Sue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226603 Peggy Sue Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:37:53 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226603 As ugly as this video is, I fear we may see more of these clashes on a whole variety of issues. What popped out for me was the fat guy's statement: "This is "our" mountain. We were here first." If that doesn't portend a whole bunch of trouble, I don't know what does. Add a few guns to the mix [along with the booze] and we quickly go from ugly to deadly. Dangerous, dangerous times we're living in. People are being pushed to the brink. It's not pretty, not for anyone. As ugly as this video is, I fear we may see more of these clashes on a whole variety of issues. What popped out for me was the fat guy’s statement: “This is “our” mountain. We were here first.”

If that doesn’t portend a whole bunch of trouble, I don’t know what does. Add a few guns to the mix [along with the booze] and we quickly go from ugly to deadly.

Dangerous, dangerous times we’re living in. People are being pushed to the brink. It’s not pretty, not for anyone.

]]> By: LisaB http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226455 LisaB Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:20:48 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226455 These are exactly the sort of people our present administration is not likely to care about, and I mean either side. Mining doesn't have to be so destructive. And the people making the big money don't live where the work is done. When the mountain tops are gone where is beer belly going to work anyway? These are exactly the sort of people our present administration is not likely to care about, and I mean either side.

Mining doesn’t have to be so destructive. And the people making the big money don’t live where the work is done.

When the mountain tops are gone where is beer belly going to work anyway?

]]> By: tzada http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226440 tzada Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:01:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226440 Having been victimized myself, (along with my community) by the lies of Government officials,both Federal and State who were hand in hand with <strong>environmental groups</strong> I will say this. I would put nothing past them including staging a video. Having been victimized myself, (along with my community) by the lies of Government officials,both Federal and State who were hand in hand with environmental groups I will say this.

I would put nothing past them including staging a video.

]]> By: NoBamaNoWay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226429 NoBamaNoWay Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:46:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226429 a couple things: it is absolutely untrue that most people who live near mines want them closed. i'm sure a few do, but most are glad to have the mine because of the good jobs and benefit to the local economy. i used to live in a small mining town (Lead, SD), close enough to the mine to hear the shift change whistles and see everything going on in the pit, and i never had any problem with it. also, i can tell you that when that mine closed (Homestake), everybody in the town was in a panic, and the whole Black Hills was sad to see it go. sure, there are some issues associated with mining, but most people in the affected areas would rather just see those issues corrected, instead of having the mine close. btw, if it can't be grown, it has to be mined. think about it. mining isn't going to stop anytime soon. re the bear cub incident, there are definitely some major dicks in the mining industry; when i used to work in a quarry, there were guys who would go out of their way to hit animals on the haul road. unfortunately, in any "real man" industry these personality types are over-represented. that's a problem with the culture, but it isn't caused by mining per se, and more than likely that incident was a violation of the state's environmental regs and hopefully it was reported. a couple things:
it is absolutely untrue that most people who live near mines want them closed. i’m sure a few do, but most are glad to have the mine because of the good jobs and benefit to the local economy. i used to live in a small mining town (Lead, SD), close enough to the mine to hear the shift change whistles and see everything going on in the pit, and i never had any problem with it. also, i can tell you that when that mine closed (Homestake), everybody in the town was in a panic, and the whole Black Hills was sad to see it go.

sure, there are some issues associated with mining, but most people in the affected areas would rather just see those issues corrected, instead of having the mine close. btw, if it can’t be grown, it has to be mined. think about it. mining isn’t going to stop anytime soon.

re the bear cub incident, there are definitely some major dicks in the mining industry; when i used to work in a quarry, there were guys who would go out of their way to hit animals on the haul road. unfortunately, in any “real man” industry these personality types are over-represented. that’s a problem with the culture, but it isn’t caused by mining per se, and more than likely that incident was a violation of the state’s environmental regs and hopefully it was reported.

]]> By: Steve_in_KC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226349 Steve_in_KC Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:26:58 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226349 Coal thugs! Great imagery! I think these guys need a taste of their own dynamite. Coal thugs! Great imagery!

I think these guys need a taste of their own dynamite.

]]> By: jbjd http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226317 jbjd Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:45:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226317 I listened to NQR the other night, describing the incredible devastation to the environment left by mountaintop blasting. The legal one-upsmanship exercised by the coal companies in collusion with our government is obscene. 'The Clean Water Act would protect the polluting of the streams except that once these are filled with debris from the blasting, they are not really streams, anymore.' I listened to NQR the other night, describing the incredible devastation to the environment left by mountaintop blasting. The legal one-upsmanship exercised by the coal companies in collusion with our government is obscene. ‘The Clean Water Act would protect the polluting of the streams except that once these are filled with debris from the blasting, they are not really streams, anymore.’

]]> By: NomNomNom http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226268 NomNomNom Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:23:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226268 Eastan, glad you're back, there can't be too muchs aid against MTR: check this out, it is totally cool: http://www.ecogeek.org/component/content/article/2815 Eastan, glad you’re back, there can’t be too muchs aid against MTR: check this out, it is totally cool:
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]]> By: American Girl in Italy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226260 American Girl in Italy Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:06:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226260 When that big guy said *get off our mountain* i thought he was talking about himself... he was huuuge. that was scary freaky. I hope these people get fired. Sure, they can be concerned about their jobs, but to attack a group of people peacefully protesting and picnicking was awful. When that big guy said *get off our mountain* i thought he was talking about himself… he was huuuge.

that was scary freaky. I hope these people get fired. Sure, they can be concerned about their jobs, but to attack a group of people peacefully protesting and picnicking was awful.

]]> By: Docelder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226251 Docelder Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:42:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226251 Al Gore won't even debate "global warming". Al needs to hire Axelrod, so Axelrod can tell him what to say. Gore is starting to look like Biden out there. Maybe he sees this carbon trading market slipping away? The way it stands... carbon is set to be the new gold. Currencies used to be based on the gold standard. Is this carbon market replacing that gold standard with a new carbon standard? Now that the world has been "globalized" is the best way to make money actually reinventing the concept of it by creating a market system where carbon is the ultimate currency? Al Gore won’t even debate “global warming”. Al needs to hire Axelrod, so Axelrod can tell him what to say. Gore is starting to look like Biden out there. Maybe he sees this carbon trading market slipping away? The way it stands… carbon is set to be the new gold. Currencies used to be based on the gold standard. Is this carbon market replacing that gold standard with a new carbon standard? Now that the world has been “globalized” is the best way to make money actually reinventing the concept of it by creating a market system where carbon is the ultimate currency?

]]> By: Doc99 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226246 Doc99 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:34:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226246 <a href="http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/07/goracle-my-struggle-against-global-warming-as-significant-as-the-battle-against-nazi-germany.html" rel="nofollow">Junk Science On Par With WWII</a> Junk Science On Par With WWII

]]> By: Texas Playwright http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226232 Texas Playwright Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:55:01 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226232 Killing innocent children and animals who could not get away is evil. West Virginia and her sister states, their land, their people, their animals are being desecrated out of base ignorance and greed. There are days I am ashamed to be American. This is one of them. Blogging gives us ordinary, news-starved citizens information. We are moving into the activist mode, I hope, with boycotts of media and their sponsors and peaceful protest assemblies where others are hurting our people, animals and land. Killing innocent children and animals who could not get away is evil. West Virginia and her sister states, their land, their people, their animals are being desecrated out of base ignorance and greed.

There are days I am ashamed to be American. This is one of them.

Blogging gives us ordinary, news-starved citizens information. We are moving into the activist mode, I hope, with boycotts of media and their sponsors and peaceful protest assemblies where others are hurting our people, animals and land.

]]> By: rw http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226227 rw Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:47:14 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226227 Savagery, and for what, for some substandard of living...confront others with violence and kill any living creature in your way, like the cubs. The debate has been going on for a decade, kudos to those who want to save the integrity of the mountains for their perseverance. Savagery, and for what, for some substandard of living…confront others with violence and kill any living creature in your way, like the cubs. The debate has been going on for a decade, kudos to those who want to save the integrity of the mountains for their perseverance.

]]> By: Tricia Spiegel http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/27418/invasion-of-the-coal-thugs/#comment-1226216 Tricia Spiegel Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:11:08 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=27418#comment-1226216 Incredible post, Easton. The video is so chilling--just like being there. I was so proud of the people for not buying into it--there were babies there and bloodshed would have certainly been the result. It feels sad when we go up against our own. But I agree that there has to be a better way to fuel America. Incredible post, Easton. The video is so chilling–just like being there. I was so proud of the people for not buying into it–there were babies there and bloodshed would have certainly been the result.

It feels sad when we go up against our own. But I agree that there has to be a better way to fuel America.

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