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		<title>By: Mr. Obama and his Lobbyist Friends &#171; Colbert U R Dead 2 Me</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-855369</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Obama and his Lobbyist Friends &#171; Colbert U R Dead 2 Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama&#8217;s Handler, David Axelrod is a lobbyist http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/28/ask-not/ Obama’s Lobbyist Connection http://www.newsweek.com/id/138519 Obama’s K Street project [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Obama&#8217;s Handler, David Axelrod is a lobbyist <a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/28/ask-not/" rel="nofollow">http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/28/ask-not/</a> Obama’s Lobbyist Connection <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/138519" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/138519</a> Obama’s K Street project [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ownaa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-288366</link>
		<dc:creator>ownaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not an artist but I wish I were because I have ideas for posters addressing those issues.  Like something linking the washington politics(he keeps talking about) to the chicago ones and then having the word CHANGE which he abuses so much inserted some where there.
Also if he is really hating Washington isn&#039;t that were all the sdelegates he is bileing are coming from?  what a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not an artist but I wish I were because I have ideas for posters addressing those issues.  Like something linking the washington politics(he keeps talking about) to the chicago ones and then having the word CHANGE which he abuses so much inserted some where there.<br />
Also if he is really hating Washington isn&#8217;t that were all the sdelegates he is bileing are coming from?  what a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-288245</link>
		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fear that you have it correct.</description>
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		<title>By: Clinton Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-288239</link>
		<dc:creator>Clinton Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, he doesn&#039;t need so many steeeenkin&#039; lobbyists!  He has connections within the corporations themselves--like the Crowns of Chicago, who have given him hundreds of thousands of dollars.  Why, ever Crown, from the little ones in diapers to the old ones in diapers, have given him the max--and then some.  

At least when we&#039;re talking defense industry giants like those Crowns of General Dynamics...he doesn&#039;t NEED to be lobbied.  He&#039;s already been BOUGHT.  And PAID FOR.  

Let&#039;s not even get IN to the coal industry connections....

Or the nuke power boys.....

Meet the new bullshitter.  Same as the old bullshitter.  The only thing he doesn&#039;t have is a ranch in Crawford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he doesn&#8217;t need so many steeeenkin&#8217; lobbyists!  He has connections within the corporations themselves&#8211;like the Crowns of Chicago, who have given him hundreds of thousands of dollars.  Why, ever Crown, from the little ones in diapers to the old ones in diapers, have given him the max&#8211;and then some.  </p>
<p>At least when we&#8217;re talking defense industry giants like those Crowns of General Dynamics&#8230;he doesn&#8217;t NEED to be lobbied.  He&#8217;s already been BOUGHT.  And PAID FOR.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not even get IN to the coal industry connections&#8230;.</p>
<p>Or the nuke power boys&#8230;..</p>
<p>Meet the new bullshitter.  Same as the old bullshitter.  The only thing he doesn&#8217;t have is a ranch in Crawford.</p>
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		<title>By: David Axisrutt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287696</link>
		<dc:creator>David Axisrutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been looking for that clip for weeks! So that &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; his! Well that figures! Thanks! :) :) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking for that clip for weeks! So that <i>is</i> his! Well that figures! Thanks! <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AnninCa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287388</link>
		<dc:creator>AnninCa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted for months on HuffPo and, as some reunited friends have pointed out, developed a very thick hide to do so.

For me?  I got banned at the right moment.  I feel as though I did my service in setting the record straight and providing legitimate information to combat the misinformation campaign going on there.

But......there comes a point when that&#039;s done and nothing more needs to be said.

I recognized that the split was real.  It wasn&#039;t going to be healed.  There is no common meeting ground.

I then tried TalkLeft, but the unity theme is strong there.

It won&#039;t work.  There is no common meeting ground.

This is a true division in the party.  It&#039;s not about small potatoes.

It&#039;s big.  It&#039;s real.  It could be that the fact that it ISN&#039;T about platform differences is exactly why the split is so severe and so real.  It&#039;s about application of Democratic principles to real life.

I will never support the new party, because they applied Republican demonization tactics to Hillary&#039;s campaign.  Their methodology is what I totally reject.  They have secured my No vote by doing so.

I also now actively dislike our rigid faux-progressives.  They are as dangerous as the Religious Right, obviously, and just as stupid.  And I don&#039;t care how much money they make.  Creative class, my foot.  They are probably the reason that on the weekend everyone in the country was wanting to go to the movies, there was nothing but crap showing.

The so-called creative class apparently is a bunch of poor thinkers.  They need to be put out to go find real work, I think.  They have failed utterly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted for months on HuffPo and, as some reunited friends have pointed out, developed a very thick hide to do so.</p>
<p>For me?  I got banned at the right moment.  I feel as though I did my service in setting the record straight and providing legitimate information to combat the misinformation campaign going on there.</p>
<p>But&#8230;&#8230;there comes a point when that&#8217;s done and nothing more needs to be said.</p>
<p>I recognized that the split was real.  It wasn&#8217;t going to be healed.  There is no common meeting ground.</p>
<p>I then tried TalkLeft, but the unity theme is strong there.</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t work.  There is no common meeting ground.</p>
<p>This is a true division in the party.  It&#8217;s not about small potatoes.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s big.  It&#8217;s real.  It could be that the fact that it ISN&#8217;T about platform differences is exactly why the split is so severe and so real.  It&#8217;s about application of Democratic principles to real life.</p>
<p>I will never support the new party, because they applied Republican demonization tactics to Hillary&#8217;s campaign.  Their methodology is what I totally reject.  They have secured my No vote by doing so.</p>
<p>I also now actively dislike our rigid faux-progressives.  They are as dangerous as the Religious Right, obviously, and just as stupid.  And I don&#8217;t care how much money they make.  Creative class, my foot.  They are probably the reason that on the weekend everyone in the country was wanting to go to the movies, there was nothing but crap showing.</p>
<p>The so-called creative class apparently is a bunch of poor thinkers.  They need to be put out to go find real work, I think.  They have failed utterly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287384</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he will bring change, making America more like Chicago&#039;s south side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he will bring change, making America more like Chicago&#8217;s south side.</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287357</link>
		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ehemmm.....This sounds like ILLUMINATI HOOEY STRAIGHT OUT OF THE DA VINCI CODE....Sheeeeesh !.....This site is for serious folks with wicked humor.....try again with better stuff....Next you&#039;ll be tellig us Obama is a MEROVINGIAN....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehemmm&#8230;..This sounds like ILLUMINATI HOOEY STRAIGHT OUT OF THE DA VINCI CODE&#8230;.Sheeeeesh !&#8230;..This site is for serious folks with wicked humor&#8230;..try again with better stuff&#8230;.Next you&#8217;ll be tellig us Obama is a MEROVINGIAN&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287327</link>
		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANTI-SEMITICISM is the oldest prejudice in Europe going back to the Roman Empire...Hitler used it because it was handy unifying tool and diverted the Germans from the real cause of Harsh Versailles treaty consequences..( THE CRAZY HUN HAD TO BE PUNISHED FOR INSTIGATING WW I )....I think that Obama and his fascists have not set in stone the com[pletion of their scapegoat formula yet....But if your white and or Jewish I&#039;d be a little nervous...I&#039;m just sayin&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANTI-SEMITICISM is the oldest prejudice in Europe going back to the Roman Empire&#8230;Hitler used it because it was handy unifying tool and diverted the Germans from the real cause of Harsh Versailles treaty consequences..( THE CRAZY HUN HAD TO BE PUNISHED FOR INSTIGATING WW I )&#8230;.I think that Obama and his fascists have not set in stone the com[pletion of their scapegoat formula yet&#8230;.But if your white and or Jewish I&#8217;d be a little nervous&#8230;I&#8217;m just sayin&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MEE</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287299</link>
		<dc:creator>MEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speaking of CFR i have seen where MS.Michele is a member as vice-president for Community and External Affairs univ.of Chicago mredicine 05-20-08 and also  not for sure though is Zbigniew Brzezinski a member also??? (p.s. what is the TRIALATERIAL COMMISSION??)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of CFR i have seen where MS.Michele is a member as vice-president for Community and External Affairs univ.of Chicago mredicine 05-20-08 and also  not for sure though is Zbigniew Brzezinski a member also??? (p.s. what is the TRIALATERIAL COMMISSION??)</p>
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		<title>By: AnninCa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287254</link>
		<dc:creator>AnninCa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but perhaps my paranoia just isn&#039;t strong enough to follow this.

I would hope that our message is getting through to Obamaland.

It&#039;s always impressive to me when I am walking around thinking stuff and then I come here and find out that others are on the same page, same conclusions, and same ideas.  *whew*  I&#039;m not such a nutcase after all!

I hope TexasDarling&#039;s posts are being read.  I hope Larry&#039;s articles are scoured.  I hope Uppity gets through.

I couldn&#039;t care less about &quot;mole&quot; posters.  Should I?  Am I missing something?

I hope McCain&#039;s people are here, too.  I&#039;d like to see him forge a moderate platform that would not make me throw up if I need to vote for him!  I&#039;m hoping he gets a clue as to how to really wipe the floor with Obama.

I don&#039;t care WHO comes out winning if, in the end, the moderates rule the day.  

Pragmatic liberalism.......that&#039;s the term I was looking for all year!  I&#039;m a pragmatic liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but perhaps my paranoia just isn&#8217;t strong enough to follow this.</p>
<p>I would hope that our message is getting through to Obamaland.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always impressive to me when I am walking around thinking stuff and then I come here and find out that others are on the same page, same conclusions, and same ideas.  *whew*  I&#8217;m not such a nutcase after all!</p>
<p>I hope TexasDarling&#8217;s posts are being read.  I hope Larry&#8217;s articles are scoured.  I hope Uppity gets through.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t care less about &#8220;mole&#8221; posters.  Should I?  Am I missing something?</p>
<p>I hope McCain&#8217;s people are here, too.  I&#8217;d like to see him forge a moderate platform that would not make me throw up if I need to vote for him!  I&#8217;m hoping he gets a clue as to how to really wipe the floor with Obama.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care WHO comes out winning if, in the end, the moderates rule the day.  </p>
<p>Pragmatic liberalism&#8230;&#8230;.that&#8217;s the term I was looking for all year!  I&#8217;m a pragmatic liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: HARP</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287237</link>
		<dc:creator>HARP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be a little off topic but I found this link over at TM. Does Hannity have the Michelle tape?

http://www.nowewont.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be a little off topic but I found this link over at TM. Does Hannity have the Michelle tape?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nowewont.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nowewont.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dawnelle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287223</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawnelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea I only could get through half of this and had to stop and ask

is this for real?

and what are we suppose to get from this?

just more of the same?  sigh it&#039;s never ending isn&#039;t it?  lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea I only could get through half of this and had to stop and ask</p>
<p>is this for real?</p>
<p>and what are we suppose to get from this?</p>
<p>just more of the same?  sigh it&#8217;s never ending isn&#8217;t it?  lol</p>
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		<title>By: missE</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287216</link>
		<dc:creator>missE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still waiting for Obama supporters to tell me what Senator Change has ever changed.

http://www.sodahead.com/blog/6418/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still waiting for Obama supporters to tell me what Senator Change has ever changed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/blog/6418/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sodahead.com/blog/6418/</a></p>
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		<title>By: uri</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2745/ask-not/#comment-287212</link>
		<dc:creator>uri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone actually bother to read the article?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Neither Axelrod nor his partners at ASK ever registered as lobbyists for Commonwealth Edison—and under Illinois&#039;s loose disclosure laws, they were not required to. &quot;I&#039;ve never lobbied anybody in my life,&quot; Axelrod tells NEWSWEEK. &quot;I&#039;ve never talked to any public official on behalf of a corporate client.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While public relations is a pretty unseemly business, it is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; lobbying. Conflating terms in the interest of scoring political points benefits no one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone actually bother to read the article?</p>
<blockquote><p>Neither Axelrod nor his partners at ASK ever registered as lobbyists for Commonwealth Edison—and under Illinois&#8217;s loose disclosure laws, they were not required to. &#8220;I&#8217;ve never lobbied anybody in my life,&#8221; Axelrod tells NEWSWEEK. &#8220;I&#8217;ve never talked to any public official on behalf of a corporate client.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>While public relations is a pretty unseemly business, it is <em>not</em> lobbying. Conflating terms in the interest of scoring political points benefits no one.</p>
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