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DNC & SUPERDELEGATES, PAY ATTENTION — WE WILL NOT FOLLOW ALONG LIKE SHEEP — as both this video, and Linda Starr’s exceptional letter below, with its call to action, make very, very clear to you. Not this time. Not with this unqualified candidate and with the sexism you have permitted to go on, unchecked, throughout this campaign — and most stunningly, your lack of support for the very most qualified, most knowledgeable, most energetic, most ALERT candidate, HILLARY CLINTON! — Preface by SusanUnPC

From LINDA STARR

Dear Larry,

I am working with women’s groups who are contacting their delegate representatives where HRC overwhelmingly carried the districts and the Democratic representatives are leaning towards Obama. We are contacting these representatives to inform them if they defy their constituents wishes, they will be unseated by the Republican nominee in the General election. I can site two specific examples, Charles Gonzales and Nick Lampson who are in jeopardy in Texas.

I’ve been contacting the HRC supporters and contributors, all of whom previously supported Nick Lampson in his bid to take Tom Delay’s old seat. These women are so incensed because they say Lampson could never have won without their volunteer help and financial assistance and they will vote Republican, if Obama is made the nominee because their own representative defied them. I’m getting similar reactions from women in Charles Gonzales district who are equally surprised and angry.

I recommend other women supporters of HRC do the same with their own representatives in their districts. My whole point, if the superdelegates are willing to defy their constituents and vote for Obama for whatever reason, they are no longer representing their constituents interests (women’s suffrage), their constituents primary votes, or their will. These superdelegates are also ignoring the best interests of the country and the Democratic Party in selecting a nominee who has virtually no chance to win.

DNC Leaders have grossly underestimated the personal offense to the women of the party (and more men than we knew) by the misogynistic methods and hate speech to help Obama steal this nomination away from the people’s choice. The DNC leaders and Democratic members of Congress have sat silently by while Obama’s surrogate attack dog, Jeremiah Wright, (and others, particularly at MSNBC) were deployed against HRC to use inflammatory, derogatory, personally vicious hate speech. There have been no words of reproach, or criticism against either Obama, his campaign staff, his supporters, or directed at members of the msm while HRC is vilified hourly.

Women are appalled and we are threatening a walkout at the national convention if Obama is forced on us as the nominee and we will work to unseat every Representative who defied our choice of HRC. It defies all common sense and logic why the DNC leaders are so hell bent to make Obama the nominee when it is patently obvious he cannot win in the General Election. Check out www.electoral-vote.com and see how in every scenario, HRC beats McCain hands down and in nearly every possible scenario, McCain beats Obama in a landslide except in one particular scenario, if everything goes perfectly for Obama, then he squeaks by. This site does not factor in the mass exodus of pissed off women who won’t vote for him. If those figures are factored in, there is no possible way Obama can win and the Democrats down ticket candidates will lose as well.

Women are so incensed, we are starting a new national women’s party for the specific purpose of electing women, anti-war activists and others who have not enjoyed equal civil rights such as gays and lesbians. Larry please help me get the word out. To join our new group, send an email to newwomensparty-subscribe@yahoogroups.com with their name, a brief description, and location. We are also going to merge with other groups in the near future, by state, to better prepare for the future.

Thank you, especially if you can help us get word out – we aren’t accepting Obama and will not support him if he’s the nominee. We’ll boycott the presidential race, write in a candidate of our choosing, or vote for a candidate of another party. Obama is not acceptable and he must not be allowed to win the nomination by using misogynistic hate speech!

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  • EDUK8R

    Well Done Linda! WE will not sit down and shut up!

    • Seattlemoss

      Women beware…
      If Obama wins somehow it will be open season on womens’ rights. To the victors go the spoils. He is bringing all the sexists with him and all those that have no class or respect for women.
      His associations and sympathies with Muslims and his cousin in Kenya who believe in Sharia law should also be most alarming.
      I’m not saying that I will open a Burka store, but this is very scary!!

      As a man my blood boils at the treatment of Hillary who should have already received the nomination hands down.

      • http://deleted AnninCa

        Respectfully, I disagree. I think you scare a bit easily.

        • Seattlemoss

          Have you seen how these kids act today? No respect!
          What ever happened to holding the door for a woman or other gentleman acts of kindness. After what I’ve read on the Kos or from Obieman I believe it is a trend and if Obama wins then it will legitimize this kind of behavior.

          • http://deleted AnninCa

            Well, I don’t really think cultural change works quite like that.

            He’s a bit of a social boob as far as I can tell. But Bush talks “funny.”

            It’s not like we all now talk funny as a result.

            And people will be polite or impolite regardless of who is running for president. That’s based on how they were raised.

            There are just a lot of unsocialized people out there now more visible than in the past.

            • C. S.

              So it’s the mothers fault for not teaching kids manners? Kids, and some adults, usually emulate what they see and this generation of young voters came of age during the almost 8 years of the Bush presidency where the message was do whatever you want and never suffer the consequences.

              Bush will be leaving the White House as one of the lowest rated presidents of the 43 – but will STILL leave as President. That’s a powerful message to politicians and voters.

              And so is the powerful message of sexism perpetuated against Senator Clinton. There is much research showing that young children exposed to violent behavior against their mothers or to child abuse can and do emulate their parents behavior at an early age.

              This repugnant and violent language gleefully directed at Senator Clinton from politicians and the mainstream media says it is acceptable behavior to treat ALL women this way. After all, Senator Clinton did nothing to bring about this abusive behavior so it is easy for misogynists to extrapolate this behavior to the next female that they think is keeping them from getting what they want.

            • Syz

              I live in Southeast Texas so I’m sure you know what kind of men I’ve been raised around . . . as my father used to always say . . . “horse hocky”! Thanks, dad.

              Suz

          • sjl106

            Seattlemoss I tend to agree with you, when powers that be accept a type of behavior it has a direct influence on cultural behaviors of society, as we have seen throughout history, and only when the powers stand against it is when the culture in society changes, and history has also proven that. The in your face sexism and misogynistic behavior from obama, the elites, media, and obamabots will not be rewarded by me either.

            • ginamc

              sj–Seattlemoss I tend to agree with you, when powers that be accept a type of behavior it has a direct influence on cultural behaviors of society, as we have seen throughout history, and only when the powers stand against it is when the culture in society changes, and history has also proven that. The in your face sexism and misogynistic behavior from obama, the elites, media, and obamabots will not be rewarded by me either.

              I agree. There are enough social problems right now as a direct result of the Rap Music/Thug Culture, and in some weird way, BO’s candidacy has somehow highlighted it. I immediately noticed the vile, rude bahvior when I first began posting at DK a few months back. But, it was confirmed to me when those kids went apesh*t when BO flipped the bird, dusted shoulders, and scraped the bottom of his shoes in defiance of Hillary and ABC News. When I see the OVERT references of misogynistic language go unchallenged by BO, I just can’t help but see that he tacitly approves of this disgusting behavior.

      • Feminist from Oregon

        Yikes, you sound like one of those Rush Limbaugh plants that have been sent out to post inane and divisive comments on blogs. “bringing all his sexists with him”…?
        Uh huh, and watch out for that scary black man too.

        If you think manipulating the superdelegates with threats is going to work, give it up. If you want McSame instead of Obama, go ahead, vote Republican. You’ll be paying for it more than I will. But don’t try to fool us into thinking you’re really a Democrat, because no matter who wins the priimary nomination, ANY Democrat is better than Mc$ame.

        • http://deleted AnninCa

          No, not really. You’re deluded if you don’t think that Democrats have had their own corrupt eras in history.

          In fact, you’re in the midst of one.

          Take the label off. Vote for the person of integrity.

          Don’t insist that they agree with everything. That’s a rigid stance that will break your heart.

          Figure out your priorities. Put the country in at least equal position to your pocketbook.

          And you’ll sleep at night.

          But, No, there are times when Democrats should say NO to Democrats.

          This is one such time.

          • Seattlemoss

            Feminist from Oregon…

            Sounds like you’re an Obamabot who fears that half the democrat party will be voting for McCain.
            I used to vote for the party.
            Not this time..
            As the slogan goes

            I was for Hillary before I voted for McCain.

            • ginamc

              I was for Hillary before I voted for McCain.

              I’m a lifelong Democrat who comes from a family of lifelong Democrats. I will NEVER vote for Obama, but I also will not vote Republican. I’m going to have to sit this one out if it comes to this. I’m a Delegate for Hillary, and I’m going all the way to the Convention to stand up and with Hillary. I just signed a sworn, notarized affidavit as a delegate to vote Hillary.

              I also believe that love of country should supercede Party loyalties. This is going to be a difficult thing for many Hillary Democrats if she isn’t our nominee. But, I’ll revisit this when the dust settles after Denver. Right now, I just have to focus on Hillary.

              I was on a Conference Call with Bill Clinton last week for Delegates to the our Convention, and he said we’re taking this to Denver if these votes are counted in F/MI. Dis’ing Hillary is still so shocking to him. And, he also said that is the purpose of the Convention to elect a nominee. It is NOT Pelosi or Dean’s place to push out Hill in order to coronate BO!

              Bottom line… this is very difficult for many of us. I just rue the fact that BO ever stepped into this race, because everything feels so surreal. This Dem Party is no longer my Party. So, if I’m going anywhere, it’s away from the Dems and the Repubs.

              • Jon H

                My wife and I were Independents but had to switch to Democrat so we could vote for Hillary before the primary at Oregon. We also volunteered at the campaign office of Springfield by making phone calls and helped out in some special events which included Hillary, bill, Chelsea, and even for Ambassador Joe Wilson. Plus, watched the counts, etc, on the day of the primary of 05/20 at Lane County Voter Registration bldg. I also moderate in Educk.com on the womens sports forum(millrace). When I am not posting sports I have for the past few months also posted every negative thing I could find on Obama in the political forum(woodshed). We, plus many others will not vote for Obama. Some will rather vote for McCain just in hope that Obama does not become President. Many, including us, will gladly vote for Hillary if she decides to jump to the Independent Party. I have accumulated a very long list of negatives on Obama which needed to be brought out by the Democratic Party a long time ago but for whatever reason it was not.

            • CherylC

              Come on people go and vote with your brain. Use what the good Lord above gave you. Anyone who has’nt been livng under a rock can see what the hell is going on. If Hillary does’nt get the nomination this is one democrat who will leave the party. Remember the party left me. I would rather risk the next 4 years with McCain than risk it with BHO. He has done nothing but make fools of the American people. The idea that it is “cool” to go along with what everyone else is going along with is the reason he has gotten this far. Wake up people he is not the Messiah, not the Saviour of the world. Just another crooked polititian doing and saying whatever he thinks you want to hear.

              A few things I have to say to the powers that be: Never underestimate the power of a woman. Pay attention to all of her supporters. If you do not like the bed you have made then change it. Then and only then will you see a united democratic party.
              Go Hillary!! The peoples choice.

        • Ky4Hillary

          Oh, I promise you that not only will this pissed off, bitter gun clinging, bible thumping, woman and her six sons and husband will absolutely not vote for Obama! I can stand four more years of the Republicans easier than I can stand four years of as you call him a scary black man. See, I am tired of the double standard, of people telling me I have to vote for the black man instead of the white woman, as by my not voting for him I am a racist. Get this, call me what you want to, I will not vote for Obama under any circumstances that you people can dream up, not even if Senator Clinton gets a token offering of VP, and I am not alone in this, take that to the bank! So, bring on the new party, we’ll have a hell of a launching party, and let the games begin!

          • Jamie

            Vote for whoever you like. That’s what this country is all about. But rest assured, Barack Obama will be the democratic nominee and he will win the Presidency. I don’t think you or your family are rasict because you don’t support him. I do, however, think that you and the other die hard Clinton supporters are going to regret your behavior once all of this is over.

            • Dawn

              I am stocking up on popcorn because it is going to be HILARIOUS watching His Fraudness Obamadingdong crash and burn in November. Can’t wait to see what the GOP lets loose!!! He and his sexist supporters who have gleefully referred to my candidate as a B-word and C-word for the past year DESERVE IT ALL. McCain is 1 million times the man and person Obama will ever be. How come it never comes up that people who won’t vote for Clinton are sexists? What a stupid and broad generalization. In order for me to be racist, Obama would have to be black. Not that I give a flying f*** but he is mostly white, next he is mostly Arabic, and he is 6.25% black, which ironically probably doesn’t even qualify one as a minority. I don’t care if he is psychedelic purple. He and his a**hole supporters sat silent while my candidate was degraded and then screamed racism whenever someone sneezed. Pissed off women are not going to tow the line and play nice. Even the Greeks learned that. Go read Lysistrata.

            • bluestocking

              Regret our behavior? And what does that mean? An extension of the bullying done by Obama supporters to Hillary SDs? Or an continuation of the anti-women hate speech coming our of Obama supporters mouths?

              Ohhh I am scared.

              • Jon H

                Let’s not forget there are also anti-semitic backers of Obama like the nation of islam who has many members as security for Obama. Obama’s campaign has already strong-armed delegates to either switch sides/endorse him or they lose the $$$ that they have been getting. Or, tell them they will be replaced if they do not endorse. The delegate on this board knows this all is happening.

        • sjl106

          Don’t worry fem from oregon, we will, McCain is mountains better than obama. We aren’t looking for a bush from the left.

      • LOU

        I agree.

      • standard

        I hope you guys are coming to DC on Saturday. Dividing the FL and MI delegates in half will be the most tragic mistake in the history of the democratic party.

    • suzieg

      Sign me up!

    • rojo

      I am 100% in favor of lobbying the SDs who have supported Obama or remain undeclared, but not with the argument they are not following the vote of their constituency. That can backfire.

      Rule of the SD is they must follow their own judgment based on what it best for the party. What is best for the party is the candidate most likely to win the GE. That is Hillary.

      I have 2 senators and 1 rep who appear on my ballot. My state & district went for Obama, but all who I vote for have declared, and remain solid in their commitment to vote for Hillary. I don’t want them changing to Obama on the same argument you are using for yours.

  • Bud White

    She’s right!

  • connie

    Bravo, I hope there is such a huge exodus, that this will never happen again. This is a travesty of justice. The men are deciding this with a few stupid women at their side!

  • Cynthia

    Linda,

    Thank you- We’re joinning you ( My entired family ), we will not vote for OBAMA. I can not immagine any scenario from which Obama emerges as a victor in November. Democratic is doomed to repeat the same mistakes time after.

    • Tricia

      My Family will not vote for Obama we are in Fl and PA all 21 People to McCain or no vote

      • http://Supergram.blogspot.com ProudMilitaryMom

        We are Pa Ma Fl and NC. All voting for the best interests of our country, not our selfish pocektbooks- we will ALL vote McCain if Obama gets coronated

        • Denise

          BTW, another fact the media is not presenting..our economy is not in a recession. Figures released this morning on Fox News show a growth. It’s another tactic to elicit favor for Obama. So in addition to voting for national security and values, you are not necessarily voting against your economic interest if you vote against Obama. We all know Hillary represents all those interests with a plan that emphasizes American values and solid economic, domestic, and foreign policy.
          Barring her nomination, McCain is the better choice.

          • Jamie

            The economy has always had periods of growth but, that doesn’t have any positive impact on the people in this country. If it did gas wouldn’t continually be going up. John McCain isn’t going to do anything to help the millions of Americans suffering in this country from the failed economic policies of this administration.

  • http://www.writehillaryin.com jm

    I am grateful to hear there is an organized group taking action on the flagrant disregard of state voters by Super Delegates at large. First Dean said: vote with the will of the people! Then the people voted for Hillary. So, next Dean said, exercise your judgment on behalf of the future of the party. Until sound judgment was dropped from obama’s campaign and campaign money (and other favors) were dropped in the pockets of these party elite. Finally, Dean said, vote however you want to for any reason at all. Enough said.

    Go to this link to see how disgusting the SuperD’s regard for the voters of their states have been:

    http://www.politico.com/superdelegates/

    Where obama won by a little, they gave him near all. Where Hillary won by a lot, they have held back her support and many have ignored the state outcome completely and backed him anyway. In IL, all 28 SD’s for him, he only won be a fraction. In Wi, less of a win for him, but SD’s all behind him. Several never bothered to wait for their states to even vote at all. Just look at this list. Then go do demcomwatch (which is linked at the bottom of this numeric listing page).

    Demcom shows who these people are and if they are office holders. Clearly as this article points out the way to get through to obama SDs who have ignored the votes of their states is to let them know that large numbers of prior (until this week) democrats are not only NOT going to vote for them. We will ACTIVELY CAMPAIGN against them.

    Go to lobbydelegates.com for contact information on SDs and breakdowns on whom they support or if they remain undeclared. TOO MANY SDs who should be already counted in for HILL, based on their states, have been pressured into withholding their support. More of us need to let them know how we feel.

    I’m feeling better tonight in that a hard mailer I did (at some expense and considerable time) may have helped. See several new SD endorsements for HILL this month that were on my mail list. So, believe this really does help. But there needs to be many, many more – and some of the outrageous SDs against their own state need to withdraw their irrational endorsements – no matter what they’ve been promised or given, they will, with obama, surely pay a far higher price than they think they will gain.

    What a tragic corrupt state for a party so many of us have for so long believed in. And for those who say we MUST defeat McCaine because of the issues, at this point, there is NO issue that compares to the VOID OF INTEGRITY within the current D party structure!

  • jackie

    That’s a very strong message. Luckily, the person in my district is a Hillary support/SD. But Hillary WON in my county, so that’s the way it should be.

    I think this tactic sends a very strong message that these politicians need to honor their constituencies votes and not be bribed or bullied my Obama/DNC. This is not a dictatorship, for gawds sake. It’s a democracy.

    • K Bentley

      Everyone, please join us at hillaryclintonforum.net It’s free!

      This forum is fantastic as well. I’m posting Starr’s message there too. We’ll all make a major move if Hillary is not the nominee.

      We can do this! See you on either site.

  • Arius
    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      He knows everything about Iraq because his late night phone pal Sam tells him what’s goin’ on over there.

  • KimberlyStarr

    I know I won’t be falling in line in november and voting obama if he is the nominee.. On another note just bringing this up off topic… I have a friend whose great grandparents were in a concentration camp. Talking with my friend this weekend I can tell you her family is appalled by Obama’s statement. When are the super delegates going to get this guy isn’t electable and his chances get worse and worse by the weeks that pass. Anyways, it’s Hillary for me, or it’s Mccain in November….

  • Arius

    Super Delegates are NOT supposed to vote based on their constituency. I think people need to do some research into the history of why it even exists.. as flawed as it may be.

    They are supposed to use their wisdom, knowledge and experience that is (supposed to be) above ours to make a solid decision of what’s best for this party and this country.

    Sadly I’ve seen some of the SD’s on tv and they look like 21 yr old ignorant kids who don’t know a damn thing about the process or have the depth to look beyond the word “change”

    the whole SD thing needs to be tanked but in the meantime they should stick to original rules.

    besides, you know kennedy and kerry will not back Hillary no matter what..

    just a bunch of traitor sexist dick heads who couldn’t win the election themselves..

    i suppose they are worried that if she can win it and they couldn’t, their dicks will shrink even further.

    • LOU

      Super D’s were started in the early 70′s to prevent another McGovern election failure. Their only purpose is to nominate the candidate that can beat the Republican nominee. That is all they should be looking at. Again, that is their ONLY purpose. Otherwise, they have no purpose.

      • http://penitent-thief.blogspot.com/ LBJ’s Love Child

        The trouble with that, Lou, is that they were also formed to PROTECT the Party Elites and are constituted of Party Elites who consider themselves above the riff-raff of the Party. Obama is the candidate of the Party Elites. They will probably vote for themselves (as they have projected themselves upon Obama).

        Dead fish stink from the head down. Both major parties are corrupt to the core. I have GOP activist friends who are walking away from their party because of the abuses of the last seven years. But they aren’t becoming Dems. Now, Dems are walking away from our party, but not toward the GOP.

        “Where there is no vision, the people perish.”
        Can you see it?

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Obama started this meme, Pelosi added to it, Brazile reinforced it.

      So they can live with their own manipulations now. Frankly, they were lying through their butts about the role of the SDs. As usual, it was Hillary who spoke quietly and firmly that SDs may and should vote independently.

      I don’t see her complaining either when an SD in her won area goes against her.

      She has integrity.

      Obama and Company do not.

    • Anne-Marie

      Ha, ha. It’s funny bc it’s true.

    • Denise

      Blunt, but possibly true.
      Even though the SDs are not obligated to,
      it’s hard not to use the rationale that the SD’s should consider their constituency because it is so difficult to find any other reason the SDs would support this ridiculous candidate.

  • Tricia

    Even if Hillary begs us to vote for Obama my family will not (we knows she has to play the game)

    • mahaska

      I wouldn’t vote for him even if Bill Clinton came to my house and begged me to.

      • Hope

        Me neither,
        And that is saying a lot.

  • http://www.mytowntalks.com MyTownTalks

    Love the video it was right on the money. Wake up SD’s your boy can’t win.

  • Hmm

    Perhaps a boycott of MSNBC is in order. Why should I watch MSNBC if they do nothing but defame my candidate. I would be just as happy if they went off the air.

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      Oh gawd — I removed ALL of their programming from my DVR recordings last fall … it got more and more difficult to listen … and then i was absolutely disgusted by how Keith Olbermann catered totally to his pitiful little audience mostly comprised of young adult males who j–k off at Daily Orange.

      • wry

        So who watches MSNBC any more any way?

        I’m fortunate that I live in the great BLUE state of New York and my elected officials have been loyal to Hillary …although our UN elected Governor used the word “desperate” when speaking of her.
        I think I’ll see to it he stays un elected.

        • http://deleted AnninCa

          He did apologize. LOL* (He changed it to ‘frustrated.’)

          If I never hear the word “desperate” again, it’ll be a good life. Lordy, people are such lemmings, aren’t they? Can nobody really talk anymore?

  • SKMF

    SO SUE ME (sorry if it was already posted) :)

    ======================================================By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Wed May 28, 2008 at 08:18:34 PM EST

    The defense you will hear to my strict DNC rules argument is that the early states received “waivers.” In fact, they did not until AFTER they had scheduled their primaries in violation of DNC Rule 11, which was never formally amended. According to the DNC Memo of today, this makes these “waivers” against the DNC Rules. But worse than that, there is nothing in the circumstances of those waivers that are in any way different from the Florida situation. In short, the rules are rules for the DNC, except when they are not. Wayne Barrett told the story well:

    The national party had tried – before New Hampshire’s case wound up on its docket – to leave the impression that zero tolerance was automatic once violations of the schedule occur. Back in June, a DNC spokeswoman, for example, told the Associated Press that neither Dean nor the Rules Committee “has the power to waive the rules for any state,” explaining that “these rules can be changed only by the full DNC.” Yet a few months later, on the same day that the Rules Committee stripped Michigan of its delegates, it waived the rules for New Hampshire, Iowa, and South Carolina, each of which had also moved up their primaries.

    (Emphasis supplied.) The DNC Memo issued today has no explanation for how this could possibly comply with the rules while it stands by its position that the RBC can not seat the full delegations for Florida and Michigan on May 31. Why can’t a “waiver” be issued on May 31? This is an unanswerable question for the DNC.

    Barrett further wrote:

    Though Dawson and others on Rules [and Bylaws Committee] now say, as they did in recent interviews, that states whose contests were always scheduled before February 5 were free to shift dates without sanction, that’s not what the delegate selection rules adopted in 2006 say. Those rules provided an automatic 50 percent loss of delegates for any state party that moved its contest to any day “prior to or after the dates” spelled out by the DNC.

    And indeed, the DNC Memo now says that such waivers were not allowable. That is the problem with the DNC Memo. It puts Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina in violation of Rule 11. It is a position that simply is untenable.

    And here from the horse’s mouth, were the rules changing before our very eyes:

    Rules powerhouse Donna Brazile said she would “grudgingly support the waiver,” warning New Hampshire shortly before the December committee vote that “the days of ‘privilege’ may end soon.”

    Not only did “first-primary-or-die” New Hampshire switch from January 22 to January 8, it moved ahead of Nevada, whose January 19 caucus had been deliberately scheduled by the DNC to precede New Hampshire’s. But New Hampshire’s Democrats got a DNC waiver because their back was up against the wall, due to a decision by the South Carolina Republican Party to move its primary up to January 19.

    But there was a good reason, SUPPOSEDLY, for allowing New Hampshire to move up, the Republicans in South Carolina had deliberately provoked a crisis. Sound familiar? Barrett writes:

    The waiver was, in other words, a reasonable response to a Republican provocation. What’s unclear is why one Republican provocation is more equal than another.

    (Emphasis supplied.) Precisely! The stripping of Florida’s delegates is simply unconscionable and unsupportable. The allowance of New Hampshire to move up inflamed Michigan who then also moved up their primary. To wit, this entire travesty was a result of Donna Brazile’s incompetence and her inability to actually act consistently. There is no basis, none, for the DMC to hold to its position of not seating the Florida and Michigan delegations. Barrett again:

    While the DNC implicitly challenged the “good faith” of the Democratic opposition to the Republican moves in Florida and Michigan, it seemed far less interested in gauging what New Hampshire Democrats were doing. The head of the South Carolina GOP actually traveled to Concord, New Hampshire, to announce the decision to move his state’s primary up. He stood in the Executive Council chambers of the statehouse with Secretary of State William Gardner and Representative James Splaine, a Democrat who led the legislative efforts to protect the state’s first-primary tradition.

    Democratic governor John Lynch was at a funeral when the press conference occurred, but his spokesman said Lynch “has faith in Bill Gardner” and “supports whatever Bill decides.” And Lynch, who had already derided the DNC decision to put Nevada ahead of New Hampshire, was clearly pleased that the acceleration of the South Carolina Republican primary date was giving Gardner all the justification he needed to squeeze back ahead of Nevada. New Hampshire officials even called the maneuver an “alliance” with South Carolina Republicans. Gardner promptly chose a new date 11 days before Nevada, defying the schedule that the DNC had issued.

    But New Hampshire was granted the safe harbor waiver. There simply is no basis for what the DNC has done. It is outrageous, unfair and worst of all, political idiocy.

    And, to borrow a phrase from Markos Moulitsas, a tale of intellectual dishonesty. Barrett writes:

    The inconsistency on New Hampshire aside, DNC officials have come up with one other argument for why they were so tough on Michigan and Florida. Dean’s spokesman Damien LaVera said in an email to Huffington Post that, despite the unmistakable references in the rules to testing the “good faith” of a state’s “elected officials” and examining a state’s “legislative” efforts, the DNC’s rules “apply to a state party plan, not state legislatures or elected officials.” LaVera insisted that the only standard their Rules Committee judges compliance by is what state parties do, and that the parties in Michigan and Florida had options other than the state-designated primaries.

    But this makes no sense. The New Hampshire Democratic Party, the South Carolina Democratic Party and the Iowa Democratic Party all had the exact same options that Florida had but they were given waivers anyway.

    In short, rules are rules, except when they are not. Donna Brazile has a lot to answer for. This disaster is entirely the fault of the DNC and the RBC in particular.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      I don’t personally have a problem with the 50% penalty, which I assume they will arrive at as a compromise.

      Truth be told….everyone knew the score. So I can see Obama’s side. I can see Hillary’s side, too.

      What bothered me was the truth that he avoided the revotes. That really bugged me. That’s chicken-stuff.

      Anyway, she’ll come up short on the delegate side, but I think she’ll be the popular vote winner. He can strut around like a peacock, but that’s not too comfortable being the actual popular vote loser.

      That, in turn, is going to put him under immense pressure. She, in turn, won’t concede. She’ll go to the convention as the popular vote winner, for sure.

      Then, he’ll have a few months here getting pounded for everything that made me nuts that everyone was ignoring in the primary. His lies? I spotted them from day 1 in SC. Amazing stuff. But all that free ride is over. He’s now up against Rove, for one. I enjoy hearing Rove rip him for stuff that I was saying for a year.

      He’ll enter the convention beat up. She’ll be perky as heck.

      It only will take one more major story to hit. That’s all. He’s clocked in enough major hits by now that if he were just a normal guy, he’d be toast. He’s still got his one great asset. He’s an AA guy. But just one more big story, and even the AA community will go, “We give up!” LOL*

      • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

        Need another scandal hovering over him? I got a goodie for you then.

        How many of you know that three gay members of his church were murdered execution style between Nov and Dec 2007? I don’t know what it means, if anything at all, but it looks pretty serious. If it were HRC, it’d be front page 3 inch headlines and on every news show.

        • http://deleted AnninCa

          Oh yeah……heard about it.

          I don’t buy it.

          The guy is just too obviously after money and too hinky.

          So no, I’m not one to think Obama is on the down-low. I do imagine his drug use is more than he admitted.

          Just my experience. It’s the “two-beers” lie.

          And my loved ones who have gone that path got into some hinky stuff.

          But a lifestyle?

          Nah*

          I’m just not sensing that, anyway.

      • Tigger12

        Pelosi just did an interview stating that she won’t let this fight go to the convention floor. She is going to end it at the end of June. San Francisco Newspaper….don’t remember which one now…sorry.

        • http://deleted AnninCa

          Pelosi hasn’t gotten anything through so far.

          Methinks she’s just a blow-hard.

          • hillarysmygirl

            Has she anointed herself the Queen of the Universe? She knows she’s screwed the DNC over and they’re hurting for money. Check this out from the New York Observer:
            http://www.observer.com/2008/obama-headlines-d-n-c-s-victory-fund-raiser-manhattan

            Barack Obama is set to headline a 100-person Democratic National Committee fund-raiser in Manhattan on June 4, the day after the last primary, according to a supporter organizing the event.
            The $28,500 per-person event is taking place at 820 Park Avenue, at the home of prominent Democratic fund-raisers Jane Hartley and her husband, Ralph Schlosstein. Checks for event will be made out to the White House Victory Fund, the newly created financial arm of the D.N.C. whose proceeds go to the Democratic nominee.
            According to the event organizer, the fund-raiser is meant to signal that the Democratic Party establishment is getting ready to recognize Obama as their candidate and shift Democrats’ focus away from the protracted primary with Hillary Clinton and onto the general election against Republican John McCain.
            According to the organizer, “We don’t want it to look like a victory party,” but rather, “a reality check.”

        • beebop

          I don’t think that Pelosi can stop it if Hillary has the popular vote sewn up. It would be too obvious a Fuck You to the majority of the party … but they’ve been doing it all season long, so who the hell knows …. maybe the superdelegates for HRC don’t show and they don’t get the “magic” number … then what?

          • Hope

            It is not up to Pelosi anyway, it is up to Hillary.

      • Hope

        You don’t have a problem with the 50% outcome. Do you have a problem with applying the rules to only 2 of the 5 states in violation?

  • Max

    I’m one of those men that’s totally pissed off at the blatant sexism constantly on display in the media and from Obama.

    TOTALLY DISGUSTED.

    I’m registered in Maine. There are two US House districts. My Rep is staying neutral, but the other (Tom Allen) is running for Senate this year and endorsed Obama earlier this month (Obama endorsed him right back quid pro quo). Tom Allen has been friends (acquaintences, whatever) with Bill Clinton for like 30-40 years.

    Allen still has to get the primary nomination on June 10th, so I’m voting for his Democratic opponent (Tom Ledue). I’ve also donated to Ledue, and then I forwarded the donation confirmation to Allen and told him to go to hell.

    If Tom Allen gets the nomination to run for the Senate in November then I’ll vote for the Republican incumbent, Susan Collins. She’s a moderate and I have no problem with her.

    • vee

      That’s the kind of action that all of Senator Clinton’s supporters need to take. Allen is the kind of Democratic leader who needs to be culled from the herd.

    • HARP

      Good for you Max. Me too. We have to convince other men also.

    • Jonna

      Good deal. I’m doing the same thing here in Ohio.

    • wry

      Max – think you need to get this simple explanation out there for people who want to “do something” when their reps are disloyal but aren’t sure how.

      not all Hillary supporters are politically savvy, some just are turned off by Barack’s anti Americanism.

      Your example is a good one and a simple one.

  • SKMF

    sorry that was big tent democrat

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

    The Obama divide and conquer campaign has turned into divide and lose. Way to go ladies!

  • Jonna

    Good plan. I predicted 2 months ago there will be fall out for any Democratic congressman and senator supporting Obama in a district that heavily favored Clinton.

    What’s more it will be driven by women and supported by men.

    And, if Obama is nominated, is unwisely elected President, and fails to lead the country out of the war and out of economic problems, then the fallout for any Democratic congressman and senator supporting Obama will be swift…and will be lead by men and supported by women.

    What people don’t realize is that a President Obama will be worse than a third Bush term. Right now everyone thinks McCain is so bad he WOULD be a third Bush but Obama is and will be far worse.

    I was just reading the comments left by readers of the Washington Post story on Scott McClellan’s book. Funny…everyone writing knew Bush was lying for years leading up to the 2004 election…but the commentors getting the high approval ratings from the WP readers said the MSM is to blame for not calling the WH out on the lies and that they see it happening again in the primary/election with Obama. It is, however, too easy to blame the MSM.

    Each of us has a brain…use it. Check the facts, check the tea leaves but execute your convictions. Work hard to get Hillary…failing that then vote McCain even if he does fundraise with Bush, have the same nuclear policy, want amnesty for illegals and fail to support Webb’s GI bill. So what?!

    • beebop

      As I was falling asleep last night, I was thinking that two more years of Bush to get Hillary in 2010 wouldn’t be such a bad deal. ANYTHING not to have Obama … and he’s supposed to be a “democrat.”

    • Hope

      I agree but would like to add that while it is too easy to blame the media, there are any number of people who get the bulk of their information directly from the tv media alone, perhaps after they come home from a long day of work. Given the extreme bias of the media it would be difficult for those who only receive that information to ascertain an opposing viewpoint. Of course this is precisely why the media has huge responsibilities to report the news and not influence it and should be held accountable for doing otherwise.

  • Hmm

    I think it would be great if we started a new democratic party. One that harkens back to the days of FDR when democrats were democrats not snivelling republican ass kissers like Obama and his crew.

    People are tired of the DNC and the cowards in congress now.

    Anyway-at least teach MSNBC a lesson. I hate Olberman and I hate his big fat pumpkin head.

    • Jonna

      I’ve been listening to Lou Dobbs. The Independents are really sick of the MSM. Heads will likely roll at all the MSM outlets…but not because their management (“the controllers”) don’t like their performance…because the viewership numbers are dropping like a rock.

      I’ve turned them all off. It’s a sad day when I get my news from honest and fair blogger sites on the internet and radio.

      • Donald from Hawaii

        Try give a listen to the BBC. It’s news the way it used to be, delivered straight-up without the attitude.

  • http://www.bartcop.com/141-bombshell-sample.m3u Lynn

    The ‘won’t vote for Obama’ movement was just getting started and needed a catalyst like NARAL to coalesce.

    More websites have popped up in addition to petitions pledging not to vote for Obama.

    The DNC and Obama have treated Hillary Clinton with amazing disrespect. Women have had it. And, their fathers, husbands, and sons agree.

    There won’t be any backing off.

    Hillary is ahead in the popular vote and in the electoral votes.

    The delegates are based on a corrupt caucus system and are further corrupted by Obama’s thugs going in and pushing, blocking, throwing out, and threatening voters.

    TX is a prime example of some of this mayhem. Hillary won the legitimate Texas primary, but “somehow” lost the delegates. Delegates are unjust, corrupt, and meaningless.

    If Hillary is denied the nomination we would rather put up with 4 years of McCain, than put up with a corrupt, lying, charlatan who has no experience whatsoever.

    And, believe me, WE MEAN IT.

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    Thanks for the solidarity Max!

    People before Party!

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    yahoo, linda. sign me up.

  • Lynn

    And, if you want to get fired up some more, take a minute and listen to this.

    http://www.bartcop.com/141-bombshell-sample.m3u

  • OxyCon

    Notice how Howard Dean and all the other party leaders chose to remain silent while the Obama campaign and the entire media were labeling the Clintons as racists and were savaging Hillary with sexist attacks?
    Howard Dean didn’t lift one finger to try to defend Hillary’s honor.
    That tells you where Dean’s loyalties are.

    • Feminist from Oregon

      Defend Hillary’s honor? WTF!?

      Is this 2008? Are we supporting a strong woman for president, or is she a little girl who needs big daddy or husband to protect her?

      Is it just me, or does anyone else think this site has Rush Limbaugh trolls posting nonsense to stir up more trouble in the Democratic party?

      • Ky4Hillary

        Let me tell you something dude, when a man sits on the air while the former first lady and a respected Senator is bashing the shit out of somebody like noBama and calls her a bitch, it’s time to take action, and that is exactly what we’re doing. Rescue her, no, standing up for her, yes. And furthermore, when the little lady journalists are sitting there teeheeing, they are too stupid to understand these guys are really talking about them too!

        • Jamie

          Hillary Clinton doesn’t need anyone to stick up for her because she is a big girl. She is, and has shown she is capable of taking care of herself. And while I do admire her and continue to hold her in the highest regard, she is not going to get this nomination. That doesn’t mean she is finished. The sky is the limit for this brilliant lady, even the presidency. Just not at this time.

    • ndree

      But Dean had the chutzpah to tell the MSM to lay off the Right Honorable Rev Wright! The DNC needs to be crucified, sent to hell never to return.

  • Lynn

    And, if you want to write to some superdelegates here’s a list:

    jdavies@alaska.net,
    dsburk@bellsouth.net,
    acelftr@yahoo.com,
    avalon@samoatelco.com,
    stevenalari@gmail.com,
    jeremybernard@mac.com,
    mee1@ix.netcom.com,
    rachel.armor@gmail.com,
    arooker@cwa9400.com, alexroo78@aol.com,
    sandra.soto@yahoo.com,

    sfpelosi@yahoo.com,
    jeff@kieloch.com,
    vote4normatorres@aol.com,
    watkins9171@cs.com,
    debbiefordnc@debbiemarquez.com,
    dan@danslaterlaw.com,
    aavallone@bmdlaw.com,
    mjdunleavy@aol.com,
    safontana@aol.com,
    yalexander@dccouncil.us,

    burgera@seiu.org,
    aldixon@adainc.net,
    jeffdrndc@yahoo.com,
    paulstrauss@aol.com,
    hthomas@dccouncil.us, hthomas@dccouncil.us,
    jzogby@aaiusa.org,
    joyce.cusack@myfloridahouse.gov,
    allan.katz@akerman.com,
    jane@democraticpartyofgeorgia.org, jane@georgiademocrat.org,
    longm22@bellsouth.net,

    davidscottforcongress@gmail.com,
    alohagov@yahoo.com,
    mfitz9@hotmail.com,
    dloebsack@mchsi.com,
    seiusarah@msn.com,
    gailbray@yahoo.com,
    worleyvill@rezmail.com,
    gtb@maukburgoyne.com,
    keith@idaho-democrats.org,
    wbarrow@rainbowpush.org,

    maggieblackshere@sbcglobal.net,
    churchyone@aol.com,
    janicefuentes@hotmail.com,
    staterep-constance-a-howard@comcast.net,
    thynes@chapman.com,
    ttrimmer@ilsenatedemocrats.com,
    mapes@ildems.com,
    iymartinez@prodigy.net,
    carolronen@aol.com,
    christian.field@gmail.com,

    sarah@janschakowsky.org,
    mrliuna@aol.com,
    dwburnett1101@aol.com,
    mwoods@willcountyillinois.com,
    campaign@andrecarson.com,
    CThurman@uaw.net,
    kinchel@sbcglobal.net,
    randyroy@cox.net,
    governor@ksgovernor.com,
    benjeffers@benjeffersinc.com,

    cuda1@verizon.net,
    scott_fay@kennedy.senate.gov, eric_mogilnicki@kennedy.senate.gov,
    david_mckean@kerry.senate.gov, julie_wirkkala@kerry.senate.gov,
    debbyskoz@cs.com,
    tripdirector@yahoo.com,
    ads@sb-ventures.com, aherold@sb-ventures.com,
    johnewalsh@comcast.net,
    mdxifaras@prodigy.net,
    cummingsforcon@aol.com,
    griffinassoc1@aol.com,

    mjneville@mstanea.org,
    kpopeatty@hotmail.com,
    sarahemebet@gmail.com,
    chair@mainedems.org,
    marianne2@tds.net,
    JOHN.CONYERS@MAIL.HOUSE.GOV,
    kim.rudolph@mail.house.gov,
    r0llinz55@hotmail.com,
    rickwiener@wienerassociates.com,
    dcassutt@dfl.org,

    kennethfoxworth568@msn.com,
    sean_richardson@klobuchar.senate.gov, kate_nilan@klobuchar.senate.gov,
    nanlars@ll.net,
    bmelendez@dfl.org, bmelendez@faegre.com,
    sen.mee.moua@senate.mn,
    robin.carnahan@sos.mo.gov, phyllis.allsbury@sos.mo.gov,
    russ@russcarnahan.org,
    sean_kennedy@mccaskill.senate.gov, angela_elsbury@mccaskill.senate.gov,
    monteelaw@stjoelive.com,
    jpattonrx@aol.com,

    esanders@sanlaw.net,
    mcamobellhd31@yahoo.com,
    LemireDahlman@rangeweb.net,
    stephanie_schriock@tester.senate.gov,
    montanaflyfish@yahoo.com,
    joycebrayboy@gmail.com,
    judgebutterfield@aol.com,
    jcouncil@co.cumberland.nc.us,
    jmeek@ncdp.org,
    geri_gaginis@conrad.senate.gov,

    elizabeth_gore@dorgan.senate.gov, christy_beach@dorgan.senate.gov,
    dhannaher@hannahers.com,
    maxsonlaw@minot.com,
    reneepf@btinet.net,
    strauss_david@msn.com,
    mwake@medicine.nodak.edu,
    achelpohl@usa.net,
    katfahey@cox.net,
    franklamere@msn.com,
    melanie_rogge@bennelson.senate.gov,

    dostergard@neb.rr.com,
    vimapo@aol.com,
    martha.fullerclark@leg.state.nh.us,
    dnorcross@snjaflcio.org,
    danaredd999@yahoo.com,
    crs@ntuaft.com,
    fharris@unm.edu,
    teresa_benitez@hotmail.com,
    steven@stevenhorsford.com,
    kittyspraggins@aol.com,

    egoubeaux@woh.rr.com,
    m.mallory@att.net,
    lanamclin@aol.com,
    nsonnyn@aol.com,
    tekicatt@aol.com,
    rwhitten@whittenburragelaw.com,
    mzlivability@yahoo.com,
    jen@defazioforcongress.org,
    info@jasonaltmire.com,
    ccampbell215@msn.com,

    james_brown@casey.senate.gov, sara_mabry@casey.senate.gov,
    chafinlawfirm@charter.net,
    pmurphy@murphy06.com,
    celita_a_de_r@hotmail.com,
    gcobbhun@BellSouth.net,
    waringsh@bellsouth.net,
    carol@fowlercommunications.com,
    jackbillion@sio.midco.net
    drey_samuelson@johnson.senate.gov, sonja_dean@johnson.senate.gov,
    mnemec@sullybuttes.net,

    stroschein@nrctv.com,
    rep.loisdeberry@legislature.state.tn.us,
    BrooksViceChair@aol.com,
    ydavis2455@aol.com,
    olga@pgog.net,
    al@aledwards.com,
    chris@chetedwards.com,
    denise_johnson@ibew.org,
    bjenellhamlett@mail.house.gov,
    moses.mercado@ogilvygr.com,

    senfronia.thompson@publicans.com,
    wholland@utdemocrats.org,
    crbenjamin1019@yahoo.com,
    jbevans@coatchworksfarm.com,
    icarleton@vtdemocrats.org,
    kevin_mcdonald@leahy.senate.gov,
    chuckr@gmavt.net,
    patnotter@gmail.com,
    cewaliser@hotmail.com,
    wisgov@gov.state.wi.us,

    mary_irvine@feingold.senate.gov, will_sebern@feingold.senate.gov,
    steve@kagen4congress.com,
    ellisshir@sbcglobal.net,
    raejason@yahoo.com,
    lissa7453@yahoo.com,
    wineke10@charter.net,
    beth_provenzano@rockefeller.senate.gov, kerry_ates@rockefeller.senate.gov,
    pjorgensen@jorgensenassociates.com,
    jmillin@cheyenneeyeclinic.com,

    constance@cborde.com,
    liv.gibbons@gmail.com,
    boleary1@bloomberg.net,

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      Thank you so much for posting these superdelegate addresses. What people like Matt fail to understand is these rep’s no longer represent us if they vote against an overwhelming vote of support for her. I live in Texas. Obama campaign staff have been cheating here and still are as we approach our state convention. She took my district 3 to 1 and Obama wants half of our 11 delegates and is challenging our entire delegation trying to cheat to get half. They gave out gift bags to caucus goers for him. That’s illegal, too. Bush called Obama a Nazi appeasor. It’s true and Pelosi came out foaming at the mouth over it. Not one word defending Hillary Clinton though! Pelosi must go and Reid and emmanuelle.

      Men fail to understand we must draw a line in the sand somewhere. If the DNC will allow misogynistic hate speech by one minority candidate to win a nomination against another minority candidate, and additionally refuse to defend our former Democratic First Lady from vicious attacks, it’s completely unacceptable. We must say never again.

      Obama is dividing the party. He can not possibly win. Just take one look at this video and tell me we aren’t justified to be outraged and willing to use the nuclear option because they are leaving us no other choice when they refuse to hear our voices.
      Pelosi and Reid and Emmanuelle are failed leaders who should be booted out on their butts. We need fire and passion and some leaders with guts instead oof these wimpy assed cowards. Look at jsut some of the aattacks, they are an outrage and must be stopped at all costs. Hillary became the living symbol of the misogyny practiced against women even now and this proves it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM&feature=related

      • http://deleted AnninCa

        Pelosi is trash to me now. I have lost all respect for her and several other women in congress.

        The way they stood by and watched this? While Ferarro is the only one to speak out?

        It’s pathetic. They should feel ashamed of themselves.

    • http://akpmedia.com Davis Axisrutt

      I think we’ve seen similar lists; they’re great; FWIW Lou Dobbs announced day before yesterday he would have the COMPLETE list online by yesterday.

      http://loudobbsradio.com

      I haven’t seen the list yet.

      He also said he would have a comprehensive list of ‘independent’ candidates to replace ‘Democrat’ ones. I haven’t seen this either.

      Re voting against the Polyester Prohpet: I want to stress my opinion that a vote is PRACTICAL and not only symbolic. That I like Lou Dobbs believe there is a ‘clear and present danger’ in having a goof like that as commander in chief of a NUCLEAR ARSENAL.

      Ask yourselves if you’d feel OK with that buffoon capable at any time to ‘push the button’. And then decide how best you must vote to prevent an Armageddon from happening.

      Thank you.

  • Donald from Hawaii

    While I understand Linda Starr’s frustration and anger, I can’t think of a more counterproductive way to demonstrate those feelings than to vote Republican. That’s not pro-active — that’s throwing a political temper tantrum.

    Now, if we can get some angry women to file as candidates and oppose these clods in a Democratic congressional primary, even in two years, I’ll be more than happy to support that effort.

    But vote for Republicans, after all they did to fuck this country up and over? I’m sorry, but that’s just fucking asinine. Linda Starr might just as well publicly vow to rip her uterus out of her own body on the Capitol steps and hand it to them — after all, they already think they own it, anyway.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      You obviously didn’t watch the video. In NC over 50% of Clinton supporters said they will vote for Mc
      Cain rather than Obama.

      Those voters were not all angry women.

      • K Bentley

        Brovo!! We at hillaryclintonforum.com have the same idea. We’d rather vote for a war hero thar loves his country, than an unvetted, inexperienced, person who has questionable friends and a questionable background!

        • K Bentley

          sorry that’s hillaryclintonforum.net

        • Another Feminist

          Whatever. You prefer McSame to Obama, go ahead and vote for him. But your stupid “protest vote” is just a big political hissy fit. You’re not a Democrat in my eyes, and if you prefer to vote Republican, you can just live with the results of your actions. Supreme Court Justice appointments by McSame? Bye bye Roe v. Wade. War by McSame? Bye bye retirement ($5000 per MINUTE, and higher prices yet to come).

          What’s clear is that you’re no group of feminists, or you wouldn’t be voting to saddle our children and grandchildren with this miserable, lying, oil price raising war and the miserable, lying political party that tricks us into paying for it with our hard earned money and our kids lives.

          • http://penitent-thief.blogspot.com/ LBJ’s Love Child

            What’s clear is that you’re no group of feminists, or you wouldn’t be voting to saddle our children and grandchildren with this miserable, lying, oil price raising war and the miserable, lying political party that tricks us into paying for it with our hard earned money and our kids lives.

            That’s a very accurate description of both Obama’s campaign and his US Senate record.

          • Ellen Tenn

            Here is a new idea for you Another Feminist-
            Stop coming to this website and attacking us. We have many good, valid reasons why we will never vote for Obama. Telling us we are stupid, calling us Rush Limbaugh trolls, implying that we are racists because “we need to watch out for the black man” is no way helping Obama win us over.

    • C D Ward

      Now, if we can get some angry women to file as candidates and oppose these clods in a Democratic congressional primary, even in two years, I’ll be more than happy to support that effort.

      Those not clinging to the old “gotta be a Dem, gotta be a primary, gotta start small” party line may be interested in starting at the top (clods) and working their way down:
      http://www.cindyforcongress.org
      http://www.runcynthiarun.org

      Bonus: no waiting two years for things to cool down and blow over. Extra bonus: no need to invoke the dreaded (by Democrats) ‘N’-word, as in http://www.votenader.org.

    • http://akpmedia.com Karl Roamer

      That’s not pro-active – that’s throwing a political temper tantrum.

      No it is not. It is a very realistic, very practical, very considered position based on the

    • Hope

      The denial of Obama by voters is not gender based. Simpply voting for women democrats next time around will not help. If Obama is the nominee, there are only 2 choices for the presidency. Obama is not acceptable therefore, there is only one choice left. Party affiliation loses it standing against the health, steadfastness, and security of our nation.

  • Matt

    So by the logic being demonstrated in this post, there is never an appropriate time to vote against a female candidate for any political office? Because if you do, then you’re putting your lot in with misogynists.

    Or does this only apply to Hillary? Boy, and people joke about Obama supporters “drinking the Kool Aid” …

    I shudder to think what will happen to substantive women’s issues over the next four years if McCain beats Obama due to all of your defections – right to choose, equal pay, child care, health care, etc., etc.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      No, the incredible sexism of THIS particular election is what has shocked people, not just women.

      Obviously, it’s been dandy to you.

    • Matt’s Stepmom

      YOUNG MAN! Have you hacked my computer again? My parental controls settings were to prevent you from entering into discussions with these grownups! YOU ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO VOTE!

      NO JELL-O FOR YOU TONIGHT, YOUNG MAN!

  • Fandango13

    I’ve already written to my MN SD’s, at least one of whom (McCollum) has always been sane before now, to say that once they both endorsed Obama, particularly after that vulgar “finger” video, no more support from us would be forthcoming. Both of them couldn’t wait to endorse Obama. Neither bothered to answer.
    .Will there really be another party? I can”t see any other way, absolutely cannot support that thug (actually nouveau thug) Obama.
    And now Tom Hayden is actually threatening 1968 street action (read “riots”) if Obama doesn’t get the nomination?

    • mahaska

      Tom Hayden is an old white man. Thought bo doesn’t need them.

      • LOU

        RIOT? Just words. More words.

  • Fandango13

    AND, Lynn, BTW, that was hard work, to post all those addresses. Thanks! You Da Bomb!

  • CD in TX

    Amen! I’ve always thought that if the women of the world united for one day and went on strike, we would stun the world, bring it to a halt and finally get the attention and respect we deserve. We have been taken for granted for too long.

    I’m a 57 year old woman who feels like the things I fought for in the 60′s and 70′s were not just for my benefit but for future generations to come. I’ve always saluted the many women who came before me, eased my path in life and have the utmost respect for them. I now feel like my generation is being treated like has beens and respect has become a dirty word.

    Enough is enough! Our voices are loud, proud and many! If we don’t unite now, we will never be heard.

  • http://www.turndownobama.com 1950democrat

    Linda,

    Pls add to your list WA Governor Chris Gregoire who will be in a very close race and who recently endorsed Obama.

    http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=307844

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Oh, knock him out, then!

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      Please join our little group at

      newwomensparty-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

      We’ll make your governor part of our target list.

      I’m merging and redistributing other lists by state when this one becomes full.

      • http://www.turndownobama.com 1950democrat

        Done, and thanks.

        What about Pelosi!!!!!

        I wish someone would even just put up flyers in Pelosi’s district:

        WANTED:
        Opponent to unseat Pelosi.
        Must be handsome young Black man.
        Speechwriters and funding will be supplied.
        Get rid of the Washington Speaker! She’s too old, she’s too experienced! Bring in someone new and fresh.
        No more old white women leading Congress!
        etc etc

        • onmomnaturesside

          Pelosi does have 2 challengers here in SF. Two “against the war” candidates are challenging her
          Shirley Galub. and Cindy Sheehan is running against Pelosi. Both running on an anti war platform.

    • mahaska

      I already wrote to her and told her she has lost my support. She won Washington by only a couple of hundred votes.

      • cellocat

        yeah, me too. I told her all the money I would have given to her campaign has now gone to Hillary. She made a big issue of running as a woman, that we need women governors to get a woman into the White House. She’s turned her back on us, and I think she will lose the governorship.

    • LOU

      She’s corrupt. She won by a handful of votes and blocked a revote. She’s alot like Obama. Her sense of entitlement is appalling and she made fun of the need for a revote. The news helped her mininize the call for revote.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

    I love this post, and have joined the New Women’s Party. Thank you Linda. I’m spreading the word. Let’s not let them steal the nomination from Hillary!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Personally, I don’t believe that the DNC will do anything that truly jepardizes his nomination. So Obama, in my opinion, will be the nominee. I also believe that what I see and hear is not about disappointment or even anger. It’s about the absurdity of putting forth this candidate who is so very unprepared.

    People really aren’t going to vote for him. It’s nearly irresponsible.

    Tom Hayden can relax. And then he can watch and sip his wine and say, “See, they’re all racists.” And he’ll feel smug and cozy.

    Meanwhile, the best candidate was vilified and he said absolutely nothing. They said crap like, “It’s not women, it’s THIS woman.”

    Stuff and nonsense. It’s any woman who can outthink them, and that’s not hard to do if you’re Hayden. So that means most of we women here would be on his “hit” list.

    Oh well…..one thing that is very good is that the primary season lasted long enough to validate what I always knew about Hillary. She’s very smart and savvy.

    And I’m confident that people are done with the “Yes We Can” nonsense, which really is the reason we’re here in this spot. Amazing so many people fell for such an old line, huh?

  • http://www.turndownobama.com 1950democrat

    Donald,

    The nomination happens in August when the Superdelegates actually vote.

    If we convince them NOW that we will vote against Obama (and his allies), they still have time to nominate the candidate who CAN win in November — Hillary.

    Obama can’t win anyway. The only way to defeat McCain in November is to defeat Obama NOW.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Bingo!

      My guess is that the SDs are getting the message. But they have to see that this has legs.

      It’s not going to end up pretty. He can prance around all he wants. But it’s not going to end up with him in the White House.

      He’s simply too out there for America. We are not going to put some nutcase into the White House who thinks Wright is a mentor for anything, for gosh sakes.

      That’s just never going to happen.

  • Montag

    Uh, I hate to burst your balloon, but I LIVE in Nick Lampson’s CD 22 and we voted for OBAMA! Here are the numbers: Obama, 54,772–Clinton, 45,472. Here’s the breakdown by county:

    Fort Bend 98 pcts. O: 28,512 C: 18,209
    Harris 76 pcts. 13,650 17,501
    Brazoria 20 pcts. 7,170 4,948
    Galveston 21 pcts. 5,440 4,814

    Hillary only carried one of the four counties, so how on earth did she WIN? Shouldn’t you be pestering Lampson to “count every vote” and obey the will of the Democratic voters in his district by supporting OBAMA? Remember, ONLY Primary votes count, because they’re MORE FAIR. If you truly believe this then you should tell Lampson to support OBAMA.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      I’d say you need new leadership in your area, then, because he should have been working his area for the best candidate.

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      And from your district, there were reports of massive threats against white HRC supporters, massive cheating and I know for a fact they have tried every trick in the book to cheat in our district and they still are.

      As I understand it, Obama didn’t win any precincts there. Oh well, what can we expect from that district? It’s Tom Delay’s old district and of course you GOP nazi types want Obama. He can’t win. The few we had in our district were GOP crossovers trying to force him on us. Our district is small and we knew who the GOP crossover votes were and they bragged it was to guarantee a GOP win in the GE.

      How’s that for facts? Democrats in your district who voted were for HRC, not Obama.

      • Montag

        Texas was an OPEN PRIMARY–these were PRIMARY VOTES! The caucuses had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT! OBAMA won the District. You say Lampson MUST OBEY the will of the voters in his district. How is he supposed to support Clinton BY YOUR OWN RULES. Not mine, YOURS. PRIMARY, PRIMARY, PRIMARY VOTERS! You want Lampson to support Clinton based on the STATEWIDE vote, which she won, but go against the voters in his district, which she lost. How many statewide voters will vote for Lampson in November? How about 0? How many voters in his district will vote for him? A majority.

    • http://penitent-thief.blogspot.com/ LBJ’s Love Child

      Tom DeLay had CD 22 redrawn with more AA voters to weaken other TX CDs (he thought he was invincible). Lampson was able to take advantage of that in the special election. To hold on to it, he has to endorse Obama.

      The entire Texas Democratic party is now being held hostage by DeLay’s redistricting and fear of losing the AA vote. In the meantime, the new MAJORITY ethnic group in Texas (Hispanic Americans) is deciding which party to align itself with.

  • Lillian

    Obama will need the biggest bus in the world to support all his political supporters that will end up under it. They think they’re riding a wave of popularity? They need to get their feet grounded in realism first. The fallout and its consequences to the party will be felt for a long time to come. Will they still blame Hillary?

    Sheeeesh!

  • saluther

    Nick Lampson did not have to announce his support for anybody. It wasn’t required. I worked for his campaign in Beaumont before he was redistricted out. The Clintons supported him and helped him get elected…this is a slap in their faces and in ALL the women who worked for his success in BOTH his congressional districts. Makes me sick.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Vote him out! Frankly, the workers ARE the gold in any campaign.

      Do like Massachusetts did. They were offended by Kennedy’s endorsement. It was the workers who decided to kick ass and get out the vote and show him.

      They did it, too.

  • llilytoo

    It’s a long time till August. By then the delegates will be begging Hillary to take the nomination. Because the Dem elite suck at election gaming as well as everything else….are you surprised?

  • llilytoo

    There are so many the Clinton’s helped who now stab them in the back. The way the Clinton’s can get back is of course not coming running to save their asses …again.

    I think these traitors fully expect the Clintons to keep helping them out . Amazing. But Hill, let ‘em just twist in the wind waiting for Obama to give a damn.It will be a long time.

  • Feminist from Oregon

    Many of you sound like those Rush Limbaugh plants that have been sent out to post inane and divisive comments on blogs.

    If you think manipulating the superdelegates with threats is going to work, give it up. If you prefer McSame instead of Obama, go ahead, vote Republican. Indulge in your spitefulness, teach those Obamabots a lesson!

    I think if you’re that shallow, you’re not really Democrats, because no matter who wins the priimary nomination, ANY Democrat is better than Mc$ame.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Gee, I thought I responded.

      It’s not a matter of spite.

      The president of the United States should have experience. We don’t put people in that position who need training wheels.

      It’s not American Idol.

      I don’t care if he can rouse a crowd.

      He’s not prepared. It would be irresponsible to vote for him.

      That simple.

      I refuse to be irresponsible. I’d love to give into my “Democrat” loyalties. Over 30 years here….never voted off-ticket.

      But my conscience won’t allow it this time.

      The country is at stake.

    • LOU

      Not this one sweetie. This Obama candidate is not better than Hillary or McCain. You are a low voter information embarrasment to Oregon voting for Obama. Why did you vote for him? Why? Maybe you want the Liquid Natural Gas lines going down the coast Hwy 101? Won’t that look pretty.
      We have a chance to block McCain’s bill’s but not Obama’s

      “There is a special place in hell for women who don’t assist other women.”-Madeliene Albright.

      Go Hillary.

    • Seattlemoss

      I think your stuck on Rush..
      Most people on this blog are American patriots that vote for the best person to protect this country.
      I have always known that Hillary would be strong on defense. McCain also.
      Obama and his crowd are pacifist Marxists who blame America first and would sell us out to the internationalists who want to control this great country.
      These are dangerous times and the Obamabots misread the level of pride that people have for their country.

      Hillary or McCain.
      There is no other option.

    • Northwest rain

      No way “feminist” from Oregon.

      YOU sound like another one of the snObama trolls — who try to bully us — generally screaming THE SUPREME COURT.

      The people you’ve bad mouthed have been here for quite some time YOU — need to read a lot more threads before you dare to call any of us names.

      Got that troll “feminist”.

      • http://www.turndownobama.com 1950democrat

        Oddly, I’ve noticed that when the Obamabots try that, women don’t seem to be shaking in fear of the Supreme Court any more.

        • Northwest rain

          Because it has already happened — they used that threat in 2004 — and two dipshits were appointed to the Supreme court.

          The idiot Democrats refused to fight for moderates — refused to filibuster GWB’s “choices”.

          That little club used to keep democratic women in line is now gone.

    • http://penitent-thief.blogspot.com/ LBJ’s Love Child

      I think if you’re that shallow, you’re not really Democrats, because no matter who wins the priimary nomination, ANY Democrat is better than Mc$ame.

      That’s about as “shallow” a comment as I have read. Obamatoms view the world as black & white. Mature voters do not. We can do gray.

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      Then I suggest to you as strongly as I can, YOU and everyone like you, had best convince your super-delegates to vote for HRC. Pelosi has done everything possible to derail HRC’s campaign. She has proven to be a terrible Speaker, she is profiteering everytime she manipulates the vote for another blank check for Bush’s illegal war as well as a t least 32 other members of Congress (John Kery has made $32 million thus far), she took Impeachment off the table, she undermines one of the most powerful DEMOCRATIC political families in the history of this country. Reid is pushing to give immunity to telecom companies that illegally wiretapped Americans in their homes for Bush and a host of other corrupt issues. Rahm Emmanuelle has been recruiting Republican to become Blue Dog Democrats, he works to get them in office and even gives them moneu – so they can vote against Democrats in every important vote!

      Dumping the Democrats this election, if they force Obama on us, will get rid of Pelosi, Reid and Emmanuelle since clearly they are all corrupt and we need new leadership – real leadership!

    • Ky4Hillary

      Guess what? You’re not really feminist either, I’m an American now before I am a Democrat, it’s just that simple. I want the best for my country and Obama is not it. 57 states indeed, 57 states of Islam. Every soldier, sailor, and airman is wearing our flag on their uniform, but, Obama won’t even look at it during the National Antem, or wear THAT pin, give me a break. That flag is the United States and it’s a slap in the face to every veteran that is fighting now, or ever has fought. My son, my brothers, my father, my uncles, my nephew that is over there now. A symbol, you bet your sweet ass it is, the symbol of the GREATEST NATION ON EARTH and Barack Obama is a disgrace in every aspect of the word. Have you seen his erection video where he was flaunting it on his plane? Very freaking Presidential. NO OBAMA

    • blazer

      im a 26 year plus straight democrat my father in law is 74 years old and served in korea and vietnam he has been a democrat his whole life he told me he was going to vote democrat no matter which person was nominated till he starting checking the candiates out now he said he will not vote for obama under any cirmustances my whole family will be voting mccain if hillary is not nominated we will put country over party and obama is wrong for this country …..

  • sisterdo

    Sign up you all………email…….this is just the beginning.

    newwomensparty-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      I must confess. I don’t see this as a women’s issue at all.

      I see this in bigger political terms, I guess.

      Hillary is moderate with highly progressive policies. She’s just so RIGHT for what we need right now.

      I don’t care that she’s a woman as much as care about her abilities and platform!

      I am appalled by the sexism. It was a bit like watching the water rise. I’ve been in that spot. I knew what was happening.

      “She’s strong. She can take it. She can take it. Oh, now, she’s drowning.”

      I got it, believe me. I’ve lived through it on a smaller scale, but I got it.

      You’re competent? They pile on. Then they kill you and wish they hadn’t.

      • Seattlemoss

        I agree with you entirely.
        I have always thought that Hillary is the best candidate based on the merits. I look at her as a president not as a woman.
        It’s too bad that all those sexists out there can’t be man enough to see past their insecurities.

        • http://deleted AnninCa

          She is why I lost all respect for so-called progressives.

          Her health care plan and even her foreign policy plan SHOULD have been like a wiggly fly on a hook……if they were remotely thinking.

          Obviously, not.

          They are post-Republicans.

          They sounded as strident as any Gengrich mouthpiece.

          And they want me to think they are progressive?

          Never.

          They are the true conservatives of our party.

          And they are equally dangerous as the Religious Right has been to the Republicans.

          One thing good that came out of this.

          We all have one another quite “pegged.”

          Never will I be confused by the progressive label again.

          They are the true conservatives. Obviously.

          • http://penitent-thief.blogspot.com/ LBJ’s Love Child

            Ann, thanks for your comments.

            I began this campaign preferring Hillary, but not opposing Obama.

            As the candidates began showing themselves and their policies, it became clear to me Hillary was the better candidate by far.

            Then, as it went along, I began see to alarming things about the Obama campaign and his candidacy. The dirty tricks, fear-mongering, race-baiting… all things I thought Democrats avoided. For the good of “The Party”, I began to feel that Obama must be stopped.

            But the party’s complicity in what has happened leads me to believe that perhaps “The Party” itself needs to be stopped, for the good of the country.

            A trouncing of Obama in the G.E. might wake up the party, but I doubt it. I have higher allegiances than to the Donkey.

            • http://deleted AnninCa

              I doubt it, too. They continue to lose, but they don’t seem to get it.

              I am convinced the best action I can take is to focus on new candidates and support the ones with some real potential.

              I think, for example, Nutter should be pushed onto the national scene. I liked his brain, his sensibility.

              I’m not going to pay attention to labels anymore. I’ve been lazy, frankly, as a voter. It’s time to pay attention to the real candidates and pick people who are obviously thinking as well as shaking hands.

              They are out there, but dang…..we left them dangling alone, haven’t we?

  • Northwest rain

    The Governor of my state (WA) endorsed snObama very early — it was obvious when she wasn’t there when Hillary came for a Rally in Seattle — and the female gov was missing in action.

    Four years ago this Governor won after four recounts by 300 or 400 votes. I expect that this year it will probably be just as tight.

    BUT she will have to win WITHOUT my vote. I will NOT vote for her — and I won’t vote for the Republican. If she doesn’t win — then that’s her problem.

    Very often women are women’s worst enemies — and this Governor has a long history of being an enemy of women.

    This has been a nasty election year — and the women’s vote has been taken for granted for too long. Somehow they believe we will merely follow the choice of the DNC. Well no more — I am no longer a straight ticket Dem — I’m now an Independent voter.

    snObama has been deliberately using sexism — and he can never be forgiven for this sin. Hopefully he will get caught up in the clean-up of Chicago party politics — because we know he’s as dirty as the rest of those criminals.

    The line has been crossed — and I’m not going to take this crap any longer.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Work against her. We need to weed out these women.

    • Seattlemoss

      I attended that rally for Hillary.
      I couldn’t believe our governor pandering to the Obama crowd. Pathetic!!
      It really is hard for me to vote for Rossi but I did go over to his campaign office in Bellevue to pick up a bumper sticker.
      At this point I’m angry at anyone who supports Obama as it shows that they have bad judgment or have their heads in the dirt.
      Greg Nichols is another I plan on voting against and I’m really tired of the wimp McDermott.
      Washington state is a joke this year. I voted in a primary that means squat and was bullied at a caucus by left wing latte liberals.
      Disgusting!!!

      • Northwest rain

        Well the WA State Republican party was taken over by right wing religious nuts back in the 80s.

        So now apparently the damn left wing nuts are trying the same thing. On the county level it is all snObama — so I won’t be voting for those jerks either. A price must be paid when candidates step over the line.

        The intimidation at the caucus which was ALLOWED to happen by the local Democratic politicians is something I can never, ever forgive nor forget.

  • anon

    Noted without comment:

    Link

    Contrary to the cesspool’s claims, I met a business owner here in DC tonight who is an obama supporter, along with two of his employee’s. We were able able to have a good time together, we were able to discuss the issues involving me and Obama, and I told him and one of his employee’s I only want Obama to be honest about his 1999 actions. They to agree that Obama should be honest now with the American People about his involvement with me and his us of Crack Cocaine as opposed to continuing to ignore it.

  • HillarySupportersAreRacists

    You are a bunch of stupid dried up cunts.

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      That’s the same old tired race card that helped OJ get off for murdering his ex-wife and her friend Ron Goldman. He nearly cut her head off and the only attachment was her spinal column. Ron had multiple stab wounds, many were defensive wounds.

      Will we ever see a time that blacks don’t use the race card to avoid facing hard questions or even criminal prosecutions? I don’t think one minority candidate using hate speech to defeat anothor mintority candidate and then crying “racist” to label those of us who refuse to go along is a valid defense. In Obama’s case, will it be to avoid answering hard questions about his true involvement with Rezko, or now the 3 gay murders?

      The way he has been hiding his true past use of drugs and other issues, he’s no better than Bush. He just speaks smoother and he lies better, but he’s no better. He’s a lying fraud invented by pr and media. He opened his exploratory committee only 143 days after he became a US Senator. The ink on his election wasn’t even dry yet and he was already planning to run for president.

      • Jamie

        Those comments Linda Starr are reckless. There have been many deaths linked to the Clintons. That guy Larry is mentally unstable and if there was any merit to anything he has said, Barack Obama woulndn’t have made it out of Chicago, but nice try.

  • MomWhoCares4USA

    Linda: Count me in. The DNC can count me out if they go for the least experienced and knowledgeable candidate running for president: Obama…

  • Hilbats

    I must say, as a 47 yr. old woman who has ALWAYS voted democratic, the comments on this site are astounding. I thought we were better than this. I also cannot help but wonder how many of the posters are actually democrats. Do you honestly think that you’ll be able to win people over to Hillary’s side with attitudes such as this? How on earth am I supposed to support a candidate whose supporters harbor these kinds of vitriolic attitudes. No thanks, I think I’ll pass…

    • Patti

      Comment by HillarySupportersAreRacists | 2008-05-29 05:52:06

      You are a bunch of stupid dried up cunts

      Do you think these kind of comments will win Barack any supporters ?

      • Hilbats

        Did I make that comment? NO, I did not.

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      Let me respond to all of you who question what we’re doing. My boyfriend has long been saying a person’s position all depends on who’s ox is being gored. Women’s oxes are being gored and until it will jeopardize everyone to make them wake up and see how destructive is the behavior of the DNC leaders, they won’t listen to us or change. .

      I looked back at how Women’s Suffrage was accomplished with no power of the vote. Women had to literally force Wilson adn teh Democras for the vote when they were sending our troops to Germany for German rights. We’ve taken a back seat over and over and over. Not again will they be allowed to squealch the woman candidate by using hate speech t force her down.

      I strongly suspect you are an Obaminator and were not supporting Hillary Clinton anyway. The DNC has left us no other choice to be heard. They are using Nazi propaganda tactics to force Obama on us and I for one, and apparently many others both male and female, feel the exact same way. These Democratic representatives ar eno longer lsitening to any of us unles sit benefits them in some way. Are you aware 32 members of Congress that we know of are profiteering from this war? We have to force a big change in how this party operates or it needs to be destroyed because too many are acting like extensions of the Republican Party and that has to stop.

  • http://www.slinginghash.org/ Larry Mac

    This is a well-written response to these super delegates, surprisingly including those who voice that defy their own voters while saying other super delegates who are in districts supporting Obama should not dare support Hillary Clinton (Kerry and Kennedy come to mind). It is just one step in the process. Beginning after the last primary on Tuesday, HillaryClintonWriteIn.org will begin a campaign to let the DNC know that we mean business. There are other similar efforts and campaigns out there, including massive drives to change preferences to Independent or Republican, HRC for McCain (a bit too drastic for me), and Stay at Home campaigns. Personally, I feel the write in campaign allows us HRC supporters to vote our conscience, while denying the presidency to a man who is inexperienced and whose campaign has lied, covered-up, used sexist remarks, intimidated voters in caucuses, dominated blogs and media with threats and intimidation and otherwise done every dirty thing to gain the nomination. It’s not over until the last write-in ballot is counted.

  • Gary

    I am a man, and wholeheartedly support Hillary Clinton for president. However, I cannot, and WILL NOT support Barack Obama. Hillary is by far the stronger candidate, and will have the best chance to win in November. As soon as people find out what an empty suit Obama is, they will switch their votes to John Mc.Cain. If the Democratic party is too stupid to figure this out, then they deserve to lose in November. Say no to a certain loser in Obama.

    GO HILLARY!!!

    • blazer

      ditto gary that sums me up to i will not vote for obama for any reason .hillary is the stronger candiate.

  • ClareA

    “Women are so incensed, we are starting a new national women’s party for the specific purpose of electing women, anti-war activists and others who have not enjoyed equal civil rights such as gays and lesbians.”

    NO WAY. To me, this just reinforces the notion that women, anti-war activists, gays and lesbians, etc. are not mainstream. Forget it! We are! and insisting on our voices being heard is not some radical notion that requires being apart.

    I am definitely speaking up to my Democratic representatives about the acquiescence of the party to the blatant misogyny which surfaced in this campaign. I was used to this from right-wing conservative blowhards but was appalled to hear it from so-called progressives.

    They seemed to give it a pass because it was directed at the candidate they really disliked. What was even worse was implying that women saw ALL complaints about Clinton as misogyny. This way, not only was the misogyny overlooked, but was trivialized.
    I won’t be part of a marginalized party, but in the meantime I won’t be voting for Obama. I’ll vote for the Dems on the ticket, but I won’t support what represents to me the “malign acceptance of sexism” (as a column in the New Statesman referred to it.)

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      Or maybe you are one of those 400 bloggers Barack Obama hired to do PR and try to silence our efforts and voices?

      It isn’t working. There are several methods to be used to not vote for Obama. One way is to stay home and boycott the election altogether. Another is to vote write in for HRC. Another possibility is to vote for a third party candidate. Or you can vote for McCain. It doesn’t matter how you wage this war, or how you register your protests against misogyny, but appraently the DNC leaders won’t lsiten to us any other way. HE CAN’T WIN! IT’S INSANE TO EVEN CONTEMPLATE GIVING HIM THE NOMINATION! You register your dissatisfaction, if you are indeed unhappy. I still suspect you are an Obaminator.

  • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

    Thanks for this amazing article and video!

    One more action item…

    I’ve sent this petition to Howard Dean (howarddean@dnc.org) once already, but I keep getting more signatures, so I’ll keep sending it at least once a week until Hillary wins or drops out.

    It makes all the points that HRC is a stronger candidate; that we won’t put up with the race-baiting and misogyny from Obama; and that Florida and Michigan have been treated completely unfairly. It also puts the blame squarely on the DNC for Obama’s almost certain loss in November should they nominate him despite all these factors.

    If you feel the same way, please sign the petition and I’ll keep bugging Dr. Dean with it. (And for all you jokers out there, I delete all the racist and obscene crap you put in, so don’t even try it.)

    Thanks guys!

  • http://none Peg

    I just sent this letter to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and will follow up with a letter to my Congressional Nominee Ann Barth, who has been endorsed by Senators Rockefeller and Byrd:

    Dear Rep. Van Hollen,
    It’s simple.
    If Hillary Clinton is the party’s nominee, West Virginia democrats will flock to the polls to vote for her, providing a real chance for democratic congressional candidate Ann Barth to defeat incumbent republican Shelley Capito.
    If Barack Obama is the nominee, West Virginia will go for McCain, and Rep. Capito will be returning to Congress.
    And this is not because, as Obama would have it, we are racists. We can tell quality from flim flam.
    Help us get Hillary the nomination!

    I will tell her that if our two super delegate Senators REALLY want to help her, they can change their endorsements to Hillary.

  • norma

    Voters in MI & FL should not be punished for the arrogance of the DNC party leaders. The principle of universal representation (YES, every vote must count) is just as important as following the party rules. Perhaps Ms. Pelosi does not understand that those rules have not been applied equally to everyone.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    VERY well done Linda AND Susan’s preface is great too. We will not be good little women and get in line this time. Dean and Obama can kiss it and they can forget his golden dreams of becoming King.

  • candy

    Ms. Tripp, what’s wrong with this picture?

    Snip: ‘The Woman Behind Obama’

    “Putting it on the table”
    By then, Michelle had grown restless with corporate law. In 1991, before her marriage, she had joined the crew of energetic young people surrounding Mayor Daley in his early years in office. Jarrett, then deputy chief of staff, remembers interviewing Michelle for an assistant’s job in the chief of staff’s office.

    “The moment I met her I knew immediately we would be lucky to have her,” said Jarrett, who has since vacationed with the Obamas in Martha’s Vineyard. “I was instantly impressed. I think I offered her a job at the end of the first meeting.”

    Before she signed up, Michelle told Jarrett her fiance wanted to meet her “so he could figure out if he was comfortable with her going to work for Mayor Daley.”

    Obama had “some trepidation” about Michelle working in politics, Jarrett said. (Michelle later was not thrilled with the idea of Obama running for state senator.)

    “I can remember sitting in [a restaurant] booth, with Barack on the other side, interrogating me in the nicest possible way,” Jarrett said.

    “I can’t think of many people you hire who say, `I’d like you to meet my fiancé,’ but I would have done just about anything to get Michelle.”

    At City Hall, Michelle confronted issues head-on.

    “I’ve been in so many settings or meetings with Michelle where people are talking all around an issue and she has a way of succinctly getting to the issue and putting it on the table. She’s willing to say what other people dance around,” said Jarrett.

    – Is it me? Malignant narcissist alert re: hubby.

    What an actress.

    Just as the oxymoronic poverty speeches as well…

  • fran

    Where do I sign up?! I will not stand by and watch them hijack our democracy. Think of it as a great opportunity to claim the essence of our democracy, as our Founding Fathers did. Did they whine about the English rules or did they fight? Our country was born from this spirit, and it is now ours to claim.

    Another point that is rarely made: misogyny leads to violence, as all hate speech does. I had an old friend who was killed by her husband. This is not benign–it creates a climate that encourages abuse of women on every scale. We cannot allow it. If they don’t respect someone of Hillary’s stature and accomplishment, what does that say of their value of average women? We have to protect ourselves and use whatever leverage we have. It is now time to organize and make them listen, because they obviously are not accessible with all the calling, writing, and protesting we have done thus far. We have financial clout and voting power–wake up call DNC!

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      newwomensparty-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

      We have the power to hold the DNC leaders accountable. They refuse to listen to reason and we MUST NOT allow Obama to use misogynistic hate speech to defeat HRC, nor against any other minority either. HRC is our Democratic former First Lady. One of only two living today. I don’t think i’ve seen this kind of strength in one woman since Eleanor Roosevelt. She cried and showed some emotion once and they crucified her for it. I’d never be able to stand up to so much and not falter or crack. We can’t let them do this to our first serious and viable Democratic woman candidate! We can’t allow them to succeed in doing this to win and push down women everywhere. Hate speech must be stopped now, once and for all!

      We welcome you to have a voice and a part of establishing the new women’s party so we can hold both parties accountable. We can create a new and better way, instead of politics as usual on both sides of the aisle, if we will all just stand up and say “NO!”

      newwomensparty-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

  • JP

    We are American citizens first. I won’t vote for Obama because is not qualified even to be a Senator. I cannot stand the sexism and racism that has been thrown into this race. To ever label the Clintons as racist is absurd. When CNN told James Carville and Paul Begala that they wouldn’t be on anymore as political commentators until after the primaries were over, I knew then the fix was in. I don’t turn on television except for Lou Dobbs and occasionally O’Reilly or Hannity. If it isn’t Hillary then it will be McCain. Down ticket dems need to worry because those who supported Obama will never get my vote. No Obama on any ticket in any way ever. And Oh by the way I am a true Democrat it is you idiots supporting Obama that your head up your ass.

  • Cindy

    Check out http://electoral-vote.com/evp2004/may/may28.html. It’s the electoral vote predictor for May 28, 2004 showing Kerry at 327 electoral votes and Bush 211. We all know how that election turned out!

    This letter is bizarre to say the least. Obama has been nothing but a gentleman to Clinton, taking her at her word on the Bosnia sniper lie and “assassination”. Oh, but there was that time he pulled her chair out for her at a debate. What a jerk!

    She is not losing because of sexism/misogynism. She’s losing because she assumed she’d have the nomination wrapped up by Feb. 5th and did not plan for races after that date. That’s why Obama won 11 in a row after that date. Now her campaign is in “street fight” mode, trying to get “uncommitted” delegates from Michigan that clearly did not vote for her because she was already on the ballot. Talk about bullying!

  • Annagain

    Linda,

    Great job. I am with you, so is my husband and many friends of ours — both male and female. One suggestion — change the name to include progressive men!! They have been with us every step of the way and are also incensed at the vile treatment of Hillary in this campaign.

    I have emailed you to be included.

    I also have sent letters and called by own congressman (among many others) who went against our choice and I made an impassioned please and good argument for him to change his endorsement — I’ll report back with results.

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      The reason I selected this particular name, “New Women’s Party”, it’s a takeoff from the old women’s suffrage movement. This is about stopping misogynistic hate speech and misogyny in general. HRC has become the living symbol as a target of misogyny to hold women down, keep women down, force her out, and prevent us from electing a woman president.

      We absolutely want and welcome our new progressive brothers, husbands, fathers, boyfriends, and cousins, who stand shoulder to shoulder with us. Those men who truly believe in equality will be supported by us on whatever party ballot they run. This is truly an inclusive, equal rights party.

      Our name is a message to our mothers, daughters, sisters, and granddaughters and all women who come behind us in the future, we will have equal rights and opportunities as men. We outnumber men in this country. Why should our voices be ignored? And will women allow Obama to use surrogates to make misogynistic hate speeches to successfully defeat a woman. We don’t allow racial or sexual orientation slurs, nor should we.

      The DNC leadership and members of congress sat silent while the hourly hate speeches targeting HRC were ongoing. Not a peep out of any of them, but when Bush called Obama a Nazi appeasor, which he is, Speaker Pelosi comes out foaming at the mouth! And as of today, not one call for tv commentators to be fired for this ritualistic hate speech. What will it take to wake America up?

      Women are putting our foot down and saying “NO MORE!” Join us Aemrica, we want a new kind of politics that includes everyone. where elected representatives hear us and take actions on our mandates. Where elected representatives can not pick and choose what parts of the constitution to enforce or what parts of their oaths of offices they obey or keep. We’ve had enough!

      Join us at:
      newwomensparty@yahoogroups.com

  • http://contra666.com Contra

    Ever notice how Zionist media and Nazi Rove chooses the candidates? Yea, first Nazis empty their war chest for Obama then media has Obama Girl on for weeks at the time then Rove directs his nazi followers to cross vote giving the Democrats the worst candidates jew money can buy! For decades we have witnesses this same technique used in Pre WWII Germany giving us the very same consequences witnessed in a different time and place but,our turn has arrived a failing economy,inflated prices on every item purchased,and three candidates handed us on the Jew Trojan Horse………TV!!Just Google any of the talking heads that appear on sundays political AIPAC presentations and you will surely realize how we arrived in this place in time!

  • American Woman

    I will support Hillary Clinton..I will never vote for Obama..America needs to wake up…He is not even qualified in my opinion to be a Senator…SuperD’s need to think long and hard. The democratic party has left us…Like Begal said in response to Donna Brazil…”The New Democratic Party will be made up of Eggheads and AA..a Dukakis coalition” Let your voices be heard…write your Senators and Reps in your district..It’s not too late for them to switch thier vote to Hillary!!!All the way to Denver

  • http://www.GranniesAgainstGeorge.org Magginkat

    I have been attacked left, right & sideways by the Hate Hillary gang and the Obama TV Evangalist Cult for simply saying from day one that I do not like or trust Obama.

    I had intended to vote for Obama in spite of all that if he was the nominee. Lately though the vile hatred is going to make it very hard for me to vote for someone who has played the race card to the hilt and seems to encourage all those around him to do likewise.

    Beside Obama walks around with that stupid smirk on his face that reminds me so much of george bu$h. Who the sam hill wants to be reminded of that nasty excuse for a human being?

    However I detest John McCain almost as much as bu$h, maybe more so since he has already aided and abetted in so much that is wrong with this country and has shown in no uncertain terms that he plans to continue the bu$h insanity.

    So I have this suggestion. Take the votes away from McSame by voting for good old Bob Barr who is running as the Libertarian candidate.

    As for the super delegates I think they should be dropped instead of Florida & Michigan voters. Let the nominating convention decide on the nominee instead of the Nazi like SD’s.

    • http://www.bizzybeeze.com/ Wen

      I agree with Maggincat. Turn the tables on this miscreants and don’t screw up the Dems. VOTE FOR BOB BARR!!!!!!! Who needs McBush?

  • devilspeak

    “dried up old cunts”……how typical of obama’s trolls. i guess you have no idea how many dried up old cunts there are in the country today. woman will rule this country, they only have to organize, and people like you better get out of the way……this election may be the real turning point in history, i mean herstory. go hillary from now on, we have your back !

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      I wonder if this fool calls his mother a “dried up old cunt”?

      See what I mean? Unless we punish these men by using the nuclear option on the party, they will never get the message.

  • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

    A minority candidate uses surrogates to employ misogynistic hate speech as a method of winning the nomination against another minority candidate and you think he’s a gentleman?

    Look everyone, it doesn’t matter what form of protest you use, whether boycott, writing in a candidates name, voting for a third party or voting for McCain. It all helps, but a vote for McCain is a doube edged sword cuz if we make Obama lose to McCain, everyone will suffer. They are leaving us no other choice. The day after the last priamry next Tuesday they are hosting a big fundraiser featuring Obama. The DNC leadership are crowning him and telling us to get f*ked. They are daring us to use the nuclear option. The only real method to make them sit up and take real notice is nuclear options. I’m a precinct chair. I’m resigning and telling the TDP why.

    Come join us in building a new grassroots party to first oppose this election mess and then to have a palce to pick up the pieces when Obama drives the party to hell.

    newwomensparty-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

  • Nos

    Speaking of surrogates… how about that former-President Clinton?? A real stanch defender of the ladies, right?

    And I’m sure the vast majority of the women supporting Senator Clinton were just as appalled when the “sexist media” was vilifying women like Monica Lewinsky, Jennifer Flowers, Linda Tripp and Paula Jones. What were their crimes again?? And I’m absolutely certain that feed up women all over America were writing to NBC news and boycotting late-night talk shows because of the horrendous treatment these women incurred during all of those infamous affairs.

    Come on ladies, we can still stand up against misogyny. Let’s tell women-hating misogynists, and those who supported/enabled/married them, we will not allow them into the White House, and will campaign against their supporters.

    We can do it!!

  • Hilbats

    Excuse me, Ms. Starr, I have spent a considerable amount of time reading this site today, previously, I merely expressed concern over the tone of many of the posts I read here & was called an “Obaminator,” (whatever the hell that is), by YOU. While I don’t condone the insensitive nature of that post by HSAR, similarily, I don’t appreciate the condescending tone & demeanor of being referred to as an “Obaminator.” After reading the contents of this site, I’ve definitely come to a conclusion, you’ve lost me. I’ll no longer consider supporting Mrs. Clinton. Congratulations, I’ll make sure to direct others who haven’t yet made up their minds to this site.

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      Hillbats,

      I believe you are an Obama supporter and were all along. Either that or you’re one of his 400 paid bloggers to spin things his way.

      Obama can’t win with these types of racists videos coming out and there is one they are holding back, of Michelle standing in fornt of that church ranting against whitey and ovana sits right there in the audience.

      don’t you understand, Hillary Clinton is the only chance this party has to win n November while the DNC keeps forcing loser candidates down our throat to support. We aren’t doing it again. We want a winner or there is no point in supporting the Democratic party anymore. They’ve stolen our voices, stolen our votes (Mi and FL) and now they want to steal our election chances. NOT AGAIN! We are going to change the outcome of this election or shut down the DNC. PERIOD, end of discussion.

      Join us everyone:

      newwomensparty-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

  • Hilbats

    Actually, I haven’t “been an Obama supporter all along.” Initially, I was for Edwards, but he took care of that decision. As far as a being a “paid blogger,” you’re wrong again, I prefer to be an informed voter & like to look at ALL aspects of a candidate, supporters included. If you wish to find fault with that, not my problem.

    One thing I DO understand, is that I’m not inclined to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with people who make vicious attacks on not only my character & those who are in similiar circumstances, but who are willing to divide the Democratic party at such a dangerous point in time. I’m a Democrat, up until now, I have been willing to support whomever wins the nomination. If you are willing to lose this election over bruised egos, that’s on you. Again, thank you for helping me come to a decision.

    • Jillie

      ‘hilbats’..your name says it all.

      i am an american first. i WAS a democrat. i have crossed party lines once before, to vote for ronald reagan because jimmy carter, another smooth-talking, inexperienced, ‘change’ candidate, was the most inept, dangerous, and unbelievably bad president we had had at the time.

      if obama is the nominee, i will be voting republican once again. i will do it for my country. and make no mistake, there will be millions more like me.

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      It’s not about bruised egos. It’s about Obama can not possibly win and I want to win. If they are determiend to force a loser on us, I won’t support the Democratic Party again for another loser crammed down our throats by “our betters” who think they know everything, which apparenty they don’t.

      You give yourself away by claiming you were neutral and refusing to see we are left with no other option. They have not only allowed misogynsitic hate speech to be used as a weapon to win, they have encouraged it. They need us and he can’t win, but without us, he’s definitely toast. How much clearer a message do you think that sends to the DNC? He doesn’t have a chance in hell and tried to play the race card, but it backfired. people remember OJ using it to get away with murder. Bill Clinton did so much for Blacks and poor, they used to claim him as the first black president. They showed their true colors. Blacks are voting 90+% for Obama. THEY made it about race. I could have cared less about color.

      • Hilbats

        How on earth can you be so certain Obama couldn’t win? Hello, Iowa? He won the State of Illinois’ U.S. Senate seat by 73%. The republicans have dug themselves so deep in a hole (much the same scenario in Illinois), that either candidate should be a shoe-in. And, once again, you choose to insult my intelligence with a snarky “you give yourself away” retort.

        Look, he’s not perfect, but neither is Hillary. Do you think for one moment the republicans are going to sit silently by & watch Bill Clinton grace the halls of the WH again? That’s my only real fear about Hillary being the nominee, I’m certain she’s quite capable of fulfilling the role of the Presidency, however, I do not relish the idea of the republicans spending millions of our tax dollars investigating Bill’s zipper–again.

        As far as African-Americans supporting Obama, why not? This is an important threshold for them & I wouldn’t dream of denying them the opportunity to cast their vote for Obama, anymore than I would criticize you for voting for a female candidate of your choice. To somehow justify comparing Obama’s supporters to someone who was accused of murdering his wife is despicable & says much about you, sorry.

        So, when this party implodes because “you have no other option,” & McCain wins, I’ll be sure to inform my 2 nephews who will then be destined to deploy for their 4th ToD’s over in that clusterf*ck of Iraq, then onto Iran, why, & whom to blame.

        *To Jillie: I chose that name as a cute spin on what republicans call us, “moonbats,” however, after having my intelligence insulted on more than one occasion at this site, I’ll be changing that.

        • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

          Geezuz. Don’t you understand how he won in Illinois when just a few years before he couldn’t even get elected to the House? The GOP nominee had to withdraw over a sex scandal in his divorce, and the GOP brought in Alan Keyes to run against Obama. My 14 year old son could have beaten Alan Keyes!

          My heart aches and truly goes out to you and all our military families that any of our troops have to go to Iraq. NO ONE has worked harder to prevent it from starting and no one has worked harder to end it than I. I am well experienced at political campaigns. I suggest you don’t take my wrod for it, go towww.electoral-vote.com and see the breakdowns. Obama can’t even close the deal among Democrats and you think with all this racist stuff coming out America will vote for him? There are other scandals brushing at him with the Rezko criminal trials and now it is revealed there are 3 gay friends of Obama who were victims of murders – execution style. What would happen to the Dem chances if he were indicted once he became teh nominee? NO DEMOCRAT could possibly win by having to take his place. We can’t risk it all on him. More than that, I really can’t support him and there are far too many others who can’t either. He pretends to be anti-war and it’s a sham. He’s admitted he’d have voted to go to war based on the same intelligence at the time.

          If there were any other way to get the DNC to listen to us, we’d jump on it.

          Besides that, did you know in his speech to the Chicago Urban League he said as a state senator and a us senator he had been putting the black businesses first and would continue that practice if elected president. is that what you want? a president who admits he’s been violating federal anti-discrimination laws based on race? I feel so badly for you and everyone who has family going to these stupid wars. I truly do. I wish I could wave a magic wand and make it go away and bring back all our wonderful troops.

  • cj

    I would like to thank all of the people here who refuse to vote for Obama because your candidate lost. I am looking forward to a McCain Presidency. And since Hillary has now effectively alienated nearly every black person in America, she stands zero chance of winning in 2012. Hell hath no fury like a woman spurned. How true it is. You can now rant and rave like the hysterical lunatics you are, of course, because in the end you will still be voting for my candidate. Hillary ignored the caucus states, lost 11 contests in a row in February, all because of her arrogant presumption that because she married a man who would become President, she would be one too. Oh, wait, she ran up the popular vote in Kentucky and West Virginia, after the game was already over. Too late.

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      CJ, a true Republican not only wouldn’t be here, but woulnd’t post what you just did.

      You’ve proven you are either a dyed in the wool Kool Aid drunken Obaminator, or you are one of his 400 paid Internet hacks to post against HRC supporters. I can spot you a mile away. Don’t even bother to try to deny it.

  • cj

    Why do I like McCain, I support the war and have always done so. I believe Saddam Hussein was a cancer on the Middle east who needed to be removed. I agree with McCain Feingold, and McCain Kennedy, I am a deficit hawk who hates earmarks. In addition, John McCain’s brother lives in my own brother-in-laws neighborhood in Va. and they know each other well. John McCain is a war hero beyond what most people can understand. Beyond that, it is not known but Cindy McCain has done tremendous work toward bringing health care to Pacific islanders in Micronesia. Shall I go on and on why I like McCain. Shall I list the literally hundreds of pieces of legislation I agree with. By the way, can anyone name any legislation Hillary has sponsored? Her work as First Lady is irrelevant, I am talking about her as a Senator. What piece of Clinton-(other Senator) is mentioned.

    So not only can I deny it, I can prove why I am absolutely right.

    • http://www.lindastarr.us Linda Starr

      I knew you were never for HRC. I spotted you a mile off. Y

      ou should be dancing in the aisles at the prospect of disgruntled Democrats defecting to vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee.

  • cj

    Bam, victory is mine. President McCain here we come. And, in fact, most of the people here agree with me that John McCain will be President.

    Some other things I like about John McCain, he and his wife adopted a Bangledeshi daughter, and in 2000 had to deal with smears saying his adopted daughter was a black bastard. He maintained his dignity in the face of such ignorance, and even today it is generally not known he has an adopted daughter. His son also served in Iraq, risking his own life for a just cause.
    And unlike Hillary and Bill, who donate to their own foundation (so Bill can fly first class to Davos) they donate to a wide variety of charities (like the health care for Micronesians, which no one here knows about but which should prove I am legitimate)

    So thank you again, but I must be off. Thank you for making President McCain a reality.

    Oh, and I think Roe Vs. Wade is an abomination. I am a Catholic (and John McCains children went to Catholic school too). So goodbye Roe Vs. Wade.

  • vidiii

    Whatever happens we should be united to organize the THIRD PARTY. I am not sure what happens this Saturday and I hope Hillary will leave the party. She has already suffered enough. The party has been so brutal to her and Bill. It’s time to leave from the radical left. Lieberman did and he was successful. They should have decided in March or February to redo a vote in both MI and FL, now I don’t know what will happen. Let us all urge Hillary to be Independent.

  • Clinton Fan

    I’m offended by YOU. Why don’t you go to one of the Worship Sites, of which there are many, to express your untruths.

    Obama did NOT “play by the rules.” He broke them. And the fucking DNC didn’t even follow their OWN rules.

    You say there MUST be consequences? There WILL be consequences….and the consequence is President McCain. So you go on liking Obama all you want, and we’ll thank you, your cohorts of blind fools worshipping an empty suit, those stoners who don’t know their asses from their elbows, and fools who are a lot like you who have crushes on pretty faces and don’t even notice how shitty the guy’s record really is on issues important to women.

    Your stupid comic analogy shows us where you’re at. See, that shit isn’t ACCEPTABLE. But right out of the gate, you use that as an EXCUSE. As a REASON.

    Fuck that. Move on, why doncha? Oh, and go iron someone’s shirt–because apparently, that’s all you think you’re worth.

    Keep swooning…idiot. He has no respect for YOU, either.

  • Ulahane

    Obama hardly played by the rules. He blatantly broke the rules against campaigning in Florida by running national television ads.

    Obama is exactly like Bush, both manipulate and reinterpret rules to their own advantage. Look at his first state senate campaign.