If you are shocked by the rantings of Falther Pfleger below, hang on to your hats. There are three videos below the fold of this article that you must see, which explains in detail Barack Obama’s religious beliefs. After you watch them I am sure most will agree that Barack and Michelle Obama have some explaining to do. Simply put, they are members of a church that is as much a heresy from genuine Christianity as Al Qaeda is a heresy of Islam. I realize I am touching a nerve in saying this, but it needs to be said.

I believe that “belief” matters. And if you will simply take time to understand the theology underpinning the church that Barack and Michelle Obama have attended for almost twenty years then you will realize why Barack cannot be President. It is based on an ideology of black supremacy and promotes a world view that demonizes white people. No one holding such views, even in the privacy of their pew or confessional, should be allowed anywhere near the office of the President. By the same token, a man who believes in white supremacy and demonizes black people should not be President. Some consistency here, folks.

Back in the sixties, George Romney, father of Mitt, ran for the Republican nomination. He was a Mormon and at that time Mormon theology held that black men could not be members of the priesthood because their skin color was evidence of their sin. Brigham Young said this:

“You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind …. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race—that they should be the ‘servant of servants’; and they will be, until that curse is removed; and the Abolitionists cannot help it, nor in the least alter that decree.”[16]

George Romney could never be elected President while being part of a church that held such views. Fortunately, for Mitt Romney anyway, the Mormons renounced the hateful views of Brigham Young. Well, I believe the same standard should apply to Barack. Here are the videos:

Part I

Part II

Part III

People are free to worship as they choose. I do not dispute the right of Barack and Michelle Obama to be members of a church, even if it is based on such a bizarre, hateful interpretation of history. But I also believe that Barack’s decision to willingly affiliate himself and his children with this kind of religious extremism disqualifies him to be president. People can change. Maybe Barack has grown up. But like the Mormons, he must renounce and reject the twisted theology he once accepted. He says words matter. That is true. But what you believe in your heart also matters. The afrocentric liberation theology of Cone and Wright and Pfleger is despicable theology and has no place in the Oval Office.

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  • Lamstraler

    You are all nutcases. What to say about Palin then? What about any organised religion that feeds on fear?

    You are all nuts.

    “May God continue to bless America”

    God wouldn’t bother to bless a nation that works double shifts to destroy God’s creation in the first place.
    But thats thinking Biblical, and, well, the Bible is a religious book, not a course of actual events.

    And anyone that wants to rift the devision between politics and religion can have a homecomming party with Iran, the Taliban & co, as they do the exact same thing.

    They’re all nuts

  • Gary Trimptrees

    If you are a true Christian, you NEED to read this! Forward it on if you agree, if not, delete it- just stop whining!

    1. HOW HARD is it to wear a flag pin? Are you some kind of stupid moron!
    2. He has ties to the dictatorial ministry of SAUDI ARABIA! That’s right- where all our oil comes from! Ever wonder how his campaign is so well-funded, while you pay $4.80 at the pump!!
    3. He is not even a Christian- did you see him in that outfit that he wore, in Africa?
    4. He has said, on numerous occaisions, that he wants to be the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. Hel-LO!!! Are we forgetting BILL CLINTON!???
    5. Two words: H-I-L-L-A-R-Y C-L-I-N-T-O-N!
    6. When he was sworn into office, he didn’t use the Bible- he used the QURAN!!
    7. His Service Record. Oops, I forgot- WHAT service record!? He was never even in the war! He said he was!!!!!!!
    8. He said in a speech in Tulsa, Oklahoma, “I vow that when I become president, more white homeowners will be REPLACED with BLACK homeowners!!!!” Hows THAT for patriortic!?
    9. He can’t stop with all that rap music that supports violence, drugs, anit-christianity, and racism. Instead, he wants to make EXCUSES for those people, and he wants to change the national anthem to “yo nigga yo nigga yo”!!!!!
    10. He has publicily advocated PRAYER in schools- no, not the lord’s prayer- the ISLAM prayer!!!!
    11. He has said he would go to other countries to find diplomatic solutions to the war on terror. Yeah, like what- a handshake and a back rub!? How about a nice payoff!
    12. Waah wah boo hoo- I think Baby Barack-y needs a pacifier, so just SHUT UP!!!!!
    13. You might as well call the liberal media the ‘fluff job OBAMA liberal media!!!”
    14. When asked during a debate in Wichita, ‘how do you defend your stance that GAYS should be allowed to marry each other’, he cited the MUSLIM QURAN, because it says in the Quran ‘let not any two men that take of each other’s fruit be forbidden from one another’. HOOO-BOY, we’ve got a GOOD ONE HEAR!!!
    15. Big Government!? How about BIG-OL’ FAT GOVERMMENT, OBAMA-STYLE! You want FRIES with that
    16. Hey, FLIP-FLOPPER, you want any SYRUP with your PANCAKES THAT YOU GOT A SPATULA FOR!!????
    17. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level.
    22. SPEAKING OF THOUGHT POLICE- I’ve heard of BIG BROTHER- but now we’re talking about BIG BROTHA’ RUNNING THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!
    23. HE’S TAKING MY PRAYERS OUT OF MY CHILD’S MOUTH!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    24. HE WANTS TO LEGALIZE DRUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go figure!!!!!!!!!!
    26. OBAMA’S FAMILY VALUES!? WELL, ABORTIONS COST ABOUT $75.00 THESE DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    27. STRAIGHT-TALK EXPRESS!? YEAH RIGHT! MORE LIKE THE LIBERAL FISHY THAT HASN’TT GOT CAUGHT YET EVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT LOOK OUT FOR MY NET- THE BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    28. HE’S NOT CONTENT TO JUST GET PRAYER OUT OF SCHOOLS- HE WANTS TO GET RID OF PRAYER EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVEN IN CHURCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHICH, HIS CHURCH IS ACTUALLY A MOSK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    29. AUDACIY OF HOPE!!!!!!?????? HOW ABOUT AUDACITY OF DOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DRUGS, THAT IS!!!!!!!?!!!!!!!
    30. IT’S MONICA LEWINSKY ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET’S HOPE THIS TIME SHE DOESN’T GET PREGNANT AND GET IT ABORTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOWS THAT FOR AUDACTICY OF HOPE, THIS TIME!??????????????????????????????????????////

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  • To all you Hillary Clinton supporters stop acting like rabbid f’loons crying sexism as an excuse just because your candidate has lost the nomination grow up. Obama beat Hillary Clinton fare and square, to try throw mud at him and his supporters by digging for indirect stories is ridiculous, especially after all the divisive politics that Hillary and her husband Bill has played in this election which help them lose the majority of the Democrat party’s support.

    Pastor Pfleger was no wrong than what Bob Johnson had said about Barack Obama when he berated him from behind the pulpit at a church that Hillary Clinton was present at.

    I personally agree with Samantha Powers and Pfleger that Hillary is a monster and she believes that she is some how entitled to the Presidency because she’s White and she’s a Woman and cannot withstand that a Black man beat her.

  • J McKelvie

    I never cease to be amazed and disgusted with the attempt, no matter how welled intentioned of the white community to define the Black experience in this country.

    Black Theology, Black Ideology, are both misnomers. If anything, the desires of Black upward mobility, and equality is better entitled as it often is, “The Black Experience.” Malcolm X was once asked, what do you want? Brother Malcolm’s response was quite uncomplicated.

    He said “you are a man,
    I am a man,
    You are a man, and you know what you want
    Then you know what I want.”

    The fact that the question is even asked, implies an intention of denying some of those things one not only take for granted, but things one sees that require a need to protect and reserve from others.

    Black Theology, as practiced in the Christian Church ostensibly, is no different than that practiced in any other Christian Church. I will not attempt to develop this theme that would require more time and effort than I care to expend at this time. I will suffice it to say, for all intents and purposes, a Black Christian and a White Christian both worship the same God.

    Black Ideology is no different than white ideology. The principle in every Black family, wants the same things as does the principle in every white family. In case you don’t know what those things are, refer to Brother Malcolm’s response.

    It is all too convenient, to attach a label to something in an attempt to define it. The result of your definition will then tend to determine it’s legitimacy, or it’s worth. No white man can define with any legitimacy or accuracy, the Black experience in this country. When an outsider attempts to define the Black experience, they can now claim, they understand the Black Man. Wrong!

    When we explore the entomology of words and then affix them to some specific trend of thought, it appears to makes sense, and makes it easier to explain to those of you that think alike. No white man knows, or even understands what it means to be Black in America. A friend of mine came close. He visited Africa, upon his return, he told me Jim, I now know how it feels to be Black. He said every where I turned, I had to deal with a Black man. I looked around and saw very few white faces, I was overwhelmed by the helpless feeling, of being a minority.

    MLK and Malcolm X are today often quoted as Heroes. Before they were killed, both of them wee the most hated men in this country. They are no longer a threat to the status quo.

    Both men victims of violence, and both men advocated a love of Peace.

    • Ryan

      Why not take the argument further? Why stop at Black? “A black man living in Mississippi can’t know what it’s like to be a black man living in California.” Hey, I can’t know what it’s like to be my neighbor. Maybe you can know MORE what it is like to be a person with a shared set of experiences and ethnic identity, but not completely.

      We have to be careful of injecting too much of our own cultural baggage into the Jesus equation. “DENY YOURSELF, Take up your cross and follow me.” Americans are notoriously bad about allowing their patriotism to undermine/control their faith in an unhealthy manner. Liberation Theology can be positive as long as it keeps perspective…the Christ perspective.

      But then again, if you are Black and reading this you don’t have to listen to me because I can’t possible know what it is like to be you. For that matter, if you are Chinese, Hispanic or Native American please ignore my comments. In fact, you really can’t understand what I am saying since you aren’t Caucasian.

      Man, what ever happened to unity in Christ?

    • Ryan

      “When we explore the entomology of words”

      By the way, words have nothing to do with bugs!

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  • Michelle Obama’s Graduate thesis at Princeton espouses Stokely Carmichael’s Black Power & Black Supremacy, at least as a framework for her own white-hating ideology. She is to equality of races as Al Qaeda is to equality of religions. Anyone who thinks SATs are a conspiracy against black people has got a double-digit IQ & a lousy attitude—Michelle has both.

  • Susanclare

    I agree with your thesis, Larry. This whole idea has us all going backwards.

  • Charles Lemos

    I was struck by a comment in Part 3 that Obama read about rejecting “middle classness” and that was part of the Reverend Wright’s mantra. Is that the same Reverend Wright who now lives in a gated community outside Chicago in a town whose black population is less than 2%? Is this what the Reverend Wright means by rejecting middle classness? Go straight for the affluent.

    Religion is a racket. The Reverend Wright puts on weekly shows for those poor folks, takes their money, sells them books, tapes and videos and then retires to a mansion in the suburbs. Quite the life plan.

  • Susan1968

    Here’s the irony — I don’t think Obama believes in any theology.

    He’s a true-blue opportunist.

    He joined Trinity to hook in with the AA voting block he needed to win office and start pocketing all that shady Rezko cash. Geeze — Obama is in office 5 minutes and he manages to hook up with the most corrupt of the corrupt.

    He was a carpetbagger. Not a real South Side Chicagoan.

    He has no direct experience with the urban AA experience. His Mom didn’t raise him (on foodstamps? Hawaiian residents didn’t qualify for foodstamps back then – look it up).

    Obama’s mom passed him off to her parents to raise. Andthere’s a questiona s to whether she ever legally married Obama senior.

    His grandparents were classic middle America white people with regular jobs.

    This is a joke. His “story” is a self created myth that he changes at the drop of a hat to suit whatever audience he’s pandering to at the moment.

    His “days as an organizer?” In his books he changes the names of all the folks he worked with as an organizer. People who try to vett him now come up blank.

    Why change the names of the very people who can come out and tell the world what a great social conscience you have, what great work you’ve done for poor folks?

    I know why — because if we can interview those organizers they would tell you he rode their coat-tails.

    Trace Obama’s career and you’ll see it was one long, coattail-riding trip.

    No wonder he said in February campaigning felt like the Baatan Death March. Obama’s never worked this hard for anything in his life.

    He wanted it handed to him.

    Just like he was handed credit for all the bills in IL senate that other politians — Black men — worked on for years. Only to see Jones (Obana’s IL senate godfather) yank thebills they wrote away from them and hand them to Obama (nice multi-racial Obama) to pad Obama’s resume for a US Senate run.

    It’s everywhere on the net. All solid researched articles. Anyone who did due dilligence on this guy can see he is a true opportunist who will take the help of anyone who can ease his way to the top.

    He’ll be a puppet president. As long as he goes down in history as the frst AA president, he’ll let his ultra-liberal, Israel-hating, pro-Hamas “consultants and advisors” run the show.

    Obama will be the liberal version of GW.

    A puppet. Only with a better vocabulary.

    The question is — who will be playing Cheney’s part in an Obama presidency?

    We must stop this.


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  • AnyoneButObama

    These videos are terrifying.

  • kat in your hat

    I cannot believe Obama is a potential American president. This is tragic.

  • EyesOpen

    To Larry and Other Hard Core Investigaive Bloggers,
    I am interested in more information on why Howard Dean is so vested in Obama. He is willing to shove aside democracy and disenfranchise voters, game the primary process, and alienate Hillary’s constituency. And all of this for a candidate who has serious, almost insurmountable problems, with the primary voters and the polls. His push for this is starting to be illogical. The risks Dean is taking seem to go beyond some altruistic notion of the ‘first black candidate’. How is Howard benefiting Howard with all of this?
    Thanks in advance.

    • Susan1968

      Eyes Open:

      Howard Dean wants to grab power from the centrist Clintons in the DNC and shift the power to the left wing of the DNC.

      The only way to do that is to mobilize a huge voting block. What is the largest voting block in the DNC: African Americans.

      Simple plan — getthe Afircan Americans DEMS to turn on the Clintons by running the first AA candidate.

      Google: “Dean’s Dozen.” These are candidates handpicked by Howard Dean. Immeditely after Dean lost the primary he send his round troops ti Illinois to help Obama win the IL State Senator seat.

  • Destardi

    Comment by MomWhoCares4USA | 2008-05-29 16:06:17

    Larry: Did you know that Southern Baptists won’t ordain women because they believe in a literal Eve who is responsible for the fall of man? Wonder when the Southern Baptists will renounce that theology just like the Mormons renounced the notion that black men can never be priests because of the color of their skin?

    Have they recently said “women feel entitled”? Or maybe “women are responsible for Mankind’s biggest screwups?”


    Well, what’s your point?

    • workingclass artist

      All Religions have biases…All of them….it is the nature of the beast….

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  • MomWhoCares4USA

    Larry: Did you know that Southern Baptists won’t ordain women because they believe in a literal Eve who is responsible for the fall of man? Wonder when the Southern Baptists will renounce that theology just like the Mormons renounced the notion that black men can never be priests because of the color of their skin?

    • Ryan

      That is FAR from the reason why women are not ordained in the SBC. If someone told you that they are full of it!

  • raymo

    Dear Pope,

    I think Father Pfleger is a big fat pig.


    P.S. Obama Sucks.

  • I think I’m going to be sick to my stomach. First of all, let me explain the obvious here and why I KNOW that these guys are just pimping the pews for cash. Farrakhan just blasted away about how if all black people aren’t successful or whatever words he used, then we are still not prospering, but damn, there are poor ass white folks! Should white people feel oppressed and downtrodden as an entire race????????? They are teaching such absolute ignorance and that graphic from Glen Beck I’m guessing that was, about Cone’s ideas on “liberation theology” is blood curdling. I’ve heard his name repeatedly in the past several weeks surrounding the Jeremiah Wright debaucle, but I had never heard of him before. Now I know why. I don’t attend crazy churches and shit like that.

    • workingclass artist

      Hmmm…Sugar I am a Po’ Cracker and I don’t see how Successful Crackers are going to slow down for me….You have drawn attention to the Marxist component of social justice combined with Cone’s fascist twist…Well Done

  • Dear GAWD! I just watched the second video and here is my first and foremost thought. James Cone is a damn fool! He even sounds like a lunatic! LMAO Oh my God! Obama is a shipwreck waiting to happen. Well, one thing we all know is, just by seeing these and previous videos is this, there isn’t a chance in hell Obama will be elected. It’s just so absolutely sad that Hillary is being tossed aside when she is one of the best candidates the Democratic Party has ever seen!!!!!!!!! 🙁

  • I agree with you LJ – Black Theology Has No Place In the Oval Office.



  • Lisa S

    Your story made it onto Tapper website. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/

  • Jesus HAROLD Christ!!!!!!!!! I love my people (African-Americans) and I’m going to be honest here, I have admired Farrakhan’s diligence at making sure that things are equal for us, but he is nuts and so are the rest of these nimrods if they now believe that we ARE the Israelites/Jews????????!!!!!! LMFAO Oh my GAWD! They think that Barack OBAMA is the Messiah for real!!!????? Now, I see why so many white folks have been angry with him (Farrakhan), of course besides some of the other truly abrasive/hateful things that he’s said over the years. But, this takes the cake!!! I was just talking to my mother the other night and she was telling me (for the 100th time lol) about the Jews being God’s chosen people and how other groups just need to face the facts and stop trying to lay claim to such, and my mother, who has a very sound biblical knowledge, was schooling me about it all (again, for the 100th time).

    African-Americans have had their share of struggles in this country, and there is still work to be done, but every one of those slick willies in that video are living in decked out mansions, driving (or being driven around in) top of the line Mercedes, Rolls Royces, etc. and have nary a care in the world where finances are concerned. They are preying off of their congregations (collection plates to think about you know…) by keeping them fired up about “whitey” and it’s wrong. I’ve always attended predominately AA churches but I stear clear of churches like Trinity because they are not teaching Christ’s teachings. This is so sad. The thing is, my mother is an Obama supporter and if I told her these things that I’ve seen in this video, she wouldn’t want to believe it. I’m hoping that her own fever will break soon enough. 🙁 I haven’t even watched the second and third videos yet, I have so much on my mind about the FIRST ONE!!!!

    Excellent work Larry! I’m a proud African-American, but I want things to be equal and fair in this country, not for one group to have “dominion” over the other groups. This is very sad. So very sad.

    • typical irishman

      Most Black people say their ancestors came out of Egypt. That is to say, they are of Egyptian descent. So did the Children of Israel come out of Egypt —After being oppressed (slaves)for 2-3 hundred years. I don’t think the Israelites were black, but maybe a few. But the Egyptians were [black]. Nevertheless whether anyone thinks the Israelites were black or not, they were slaves to the Egyptians. Meaning if the Israel were black then , black people were enslaving other black people. If the Israelites were caucasion then the black people were enslaving white people. Are the Jewish people white? Biblically speaking the Jews were of the lineage of Shem and the Egyptians were of the lineage of Ham– Shem was the progenitor of the white race and Ham was the progenitor of the Black race. Japheth was the progenitor of the Asiatic race.

      • Typical Irishman, I don’t know where you got the information that “most black people say their ancestors came out of Egpyt” from, but that’s false. If you’ve met some black people who say that, then fine, but that’s not a “most black people” thing.

        • workingclass artist

          Sugar it is common to hijack the traditions of older cultures and your mother is correct. The early Christians hijacked much form the Jews as this is a common way to exert both unity and legitimacy…Jews and their culture have been hijacked repeatedly…The Romans were excellent at this practice and elevated it almost to a high art…chuckle…
          Step 1. Conquer the Land and kill resisters.
          Step 2. Incorporate Culture and Religion to gain legitimacy and ease transition….This was how the Romans adopted Greek Traditions…

          *** The only people the Romans could not incorporate was those Pesky Jews and their monotheistic illogical religion…***
          Of Course the Church of Rome continued the Formula ( why we have so many saints recently purged as 1/2 of them turned out to be pagan dieties conviently renamed and absorbed in the ancient Roman Formula…chuckle…Tis the way of Empires…Tis the way of Human Nature….Funny….( sigh ) Occasionally this has devastating consequences in the modern world….Hitler did it….Common Tool for Fascists….Distorting History….

      • Ryan

        There is some funny irony in what you are saying. It is true, however, that in some twisted academic circles this line of thinking is propagated. It is kind of like all those 14th century portrayals of Christ as a white man LOL. Egyptians were ethnically and racially different than West Africans. Ask any responsible Egyptologist or Ancient Near East scholar.

  • raymo

    Honest to God, I think the Republicans could get George W. Bush elected to a third term over this guy.

    What the hell are the Democrats thinking???

    • mahaska

      I’m getting to the point where I want to renew dubyas contract.

  • typical irishman

    Black Liberation is an ancient religion. It goes all the way back to ancient Babylon, it is the same “Mystery Religion” spoken of in the book of Revelation as “Mystery Babylon the great, the Mother of Harlots and the abomination of the earth”.

    • workingclass artist

      Well Irish Hagee would disagree because it’s the Roman Catholic Church who is the Whore of Babylon Cult described in the Acid trip called Revelations…chuckle…Of course being a member of said whore of Babyln cult I take objection to Hagee….prefering the recent scholarship that points to this being a description of the Roman Destruction of Jerusalem combined with the usual addition of midrash devices.
      Black Liberation Theology dates to 1970 when Jmes Cone began to publish.
      Liberation Theology dates to 1968 with the papers written by the Latin Bishops on Justice and Power. It is from these papers that Cone lifted the rudiments of his philosophy and saw the same thing the RCC saw an effective and seductive ruse to perptuate Marxism…When Cone defined the class struggle as a racial one he turned Black Liberation Theology into FASCISM…

      This is the same kind of historical distortion that gets folks into trouble and by the way…Cleopatra of Marc Antony fame was not african…she was a Ptolemy which were Macedonian Greek with some Egyptian ( she was in good part CRACKER from central Europe ) and was popular because she was the first Queen of the line to actually learn the local language….chuckle…and the Romans were not Italians as the Romans considered the local Italians to be hayseeds and denied them citizenship for hundreds of years….

  • ddd

  • This is a bitOff topic but I thought it was worthy of sharing.
    I found this over at “Big Pink” or otherwise known as, Hillary is 44.

    The now invisible on Big Media broadcasts, Craig Crawford calls out Obama on his hypocrisy and lies too.

    Among the myths surrounding the Democratic fight over seating delegates from Florida and Michigan, one that stands out is a persistent inference that Barack Obama was somehow involuntarily kept off the Michigan primary ballot.

    Obama chose to have his name erased from the Michigan ballot – a decision that now presents one of the thorniest issues for the Democratic National Committee’s rules panel meeting on Saturday to hear arguments in this dispute.

    How can delegates be awarded to someone who was not even on the ballot? In sports, that would be like giving points to a team that forfeits the game.

    The Obama camp signaled on Wednesday that the Democratic frontrunner is willing to concede some Florida and Michigan delegates to Hillary Rodham Clinton, but questions such as what to do about Obama’s Michigan forfeit still hang.

    It was the Illinois senator’s written and personally signed request to the Michigan Secretary of State’s office on Oct. 8, 2007, that prompted his exclusion. Obama’s choice to stay off the ballot was a conscious political maneuver designed to please Iowa Democrats angered by Michigan’s early primary date.

    Clinton, to her detriment in Iowa, chose to stay on Michigan’s ballot. As strange as some of Clinton’s demands might seem to be in this matter, it would be truly bizarre to give any Michigan delegates to a candidate who voluntarily took his name off the ballot.

    More invisible man Crawford:

    Myths abound in the latest Florida vote-count fight. For starters, this is not the fault of state Democratic leaders. The Republican-controlled state legislature, directed by its GOP governor Charlie Crist, created this situation.

    Sure, Florida Democrats did not vigorously oppose the Republican plan to move up Florida’s primary on the calendar, defying the rules in both parties. Instead, they negotiated a deal to ensure a paper trail in all future balloting.

    And for their efforts in leveraging a position of weakness to gain something helpful for future elections, Florida Democrats get hammered by a Democratic National Committee intent on diminishing the state’s influence in naming a presidential nominee.

    Why did national Democrats fear Florida so much? It is, after all, the nation’s largest swing state.

    Um, Craig, we all know the answer to your Florida fear question. Obama could not win Florida and Michigan so an excuse was created to disenfranchise their votes. The votes of Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina – states which violated the same “rule” as Florida and Michigan – were counted because Obama expected to win there.

    I’d like to see Tootsky and the rest of those Obama Trolls Refute this.

    • Andy

      Forget Tootsky: he lacks basic logic skill; he either never went to school or failed Calculus I and Logic 101.

      His logic is “claims”:

      If A imples B then B implies A

      LOL!!! He’s really bad.

    • typical irishman

      Indeed, the Michigan voters did express their choice in their votes. The majority voted for Clinton while most of the rest voted UNCOMMITED. Hillary’s votes should be counted and given to her but obviously the UNCOMMITED will not be counted for anyone, as it should be. That is the will of the voters in Michigan.

    • tootsky

      I really actually don’t give a shit. I’d like your candidate to get the nomination, it wiil further the contradictions. 🙂 1968! UN investigations of US government which uses repressive force on radical protesters. I can hardly wait.

  • Robin

    My 21 year old daughters best friend is an AA. A very sweet and smart educated young lady. My daughter and Sophie were talking about the Bible one day. She told my daughter a story about a guy she used to date. Sophie, was dating this AA guy and she invited him over to house. He went into her bedroom and saw she had a picture of Jesus hanging on the wall over her bed. He gave her a disgusted look and said, “Why the hell do you have a picture of a White Jesus on your wall?”

    She told him because she is a Christian and she liked the picture. He told her to take it down because Jesus wasn’t white, he was black.

    Sophie told him to get out of her house and never come back. My daughter said Sophie hasn’t spoken to him since.

  • pan230oh

    As a white child of the middle class suburbs of the 1960’s in midwestern America (oh I was a good girl, too -girl scouts, church mouse, etc) — I was deeply disturbed when I first read “The Autobiography of Malcolm X” in the fall of 1970. How could anyone be so hateful and speak so starkly of the black experience? This isn’t anything like what Martin Luther King preached or Peter, Paul and Mary sang about. Whew!!
    In the mid-1970’s I spent three years in West Africa, in fact in the very land where Alex Haley’s composite Kunta Kinte was raised and from which he was taken. I went to Goree Island BEFORE they put up all the signs to tell all the American tourists how ashamed they should be for putting human beings in shackles like that. I didn’t need any signs to know it was a holy place.
    Thanks to journalists like Juan Williams and Bill Moyers and Alex Haley I have had the opportunity to hear Malcolm X, Louis Farakkhan, Jeremiah Wright in their own words and to be able to put many of these ideas in greater context.
    I don’t find the above videos all that troubling because I know they paint a pretty good picture of “what is”. I mostly fear that many white people seeing the videos will act out of fear and (as we’ve seen above) that many black people will get mad at whites for getting mad at them. The result is that we will lose the opportunity for the conversation on race that Barack Obama invited us in on in March.
    As much as I respect and honor the contribution that Black Theology and the work of men like Jeremiah Wright have done to bring dignity and self-worth to the “black” people of this country, I do not think that we are yet ready to have Barack, who is so deeply immersed in that community and so capable of evoking such powerful feelings through “words” such as what we saw in these films as Commander in Chief and Supreme Leader and Leader of a Government. I am with Larry on this one.

  • I know this was way up the thread but…..

    Tootsky you really need professional help! Your threats of ACLU and such don’t scare us! Your like a child that does not get what she wants….Give it to me or I will tell Daddy! Go run to your daddy, my daddy will beat yours..

    I am so sad for you Tootsky. you have truly been Possessed by demons!
    maybe the great Rev. Wright or his tools, young Otis or Pfleger can exorcise those voices you are hearing. If not I would suggest a DeProgrammer. Maybe Larry can suggest a good one for you.. sorry Larry, I just thought you’d be able to help this poor soul..LOL 😉

  • It’s Not Me

    *sigh* It will never end. The hatred. My eyes have been opened WIDE. I now know where I stand with certain members of our country.

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  • lost in fla

    Boy he gave Oprah a big slap in the face, wonder how she feels about her “one” now. “Getme some of that Oprah money” he says. in that third clip.

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