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Open Thread: Eight Senators, Four Hours to Go For Sotomayor

You’re probably chortling that President Barack Obama was booed at last night’s All-Star Game as he threw out the first ceremonial pitch (like a “sissy,” some are saying). But it is notable that the long-winded gaggle in the Senate Judiciary Committee (surprise, surprise) didn’t get through its membership yesterday. There are eight senators to go, including the recently demoted Arlen Specter and newbie Al Franken. How’s it going, in YOUR estimation?

We’ll add more commentary shortly. In the meantime, even Yahoo Sports weighed in on the President’s pitch:

Where did it land? Was it a strike or wasn’t it? Why didn’t the network choose a better camera to shoot from? Those were the questions that viewers of baseball’s All-Star Game were asking themselves at home after Fox elected to show President Barack Obama’s ceremonial first pitch at the 80th All-Star Game from a tight angle.

Ruling as a part-time umpire who had a good view from the pressbox at Busch Stadium, Obama’s pitch was a no-doubt-about-it ball, even factoring in an expanded strike zone for the Commander-in-Chief. Obama’s southpaw delivery was a little short of the plate, but Cardinals star Albert Pujols(notes) was able to save it by quickly scooping it up. …

Adds the Scared Monkeys blog in “Hmm … President Obama Gets Booed at MLB All Star Game in St Louis … And Throws Lame Pitch“:

What was up with FOX Sports not showing the full pitch? Were they told by Barry’s handlers not to just in case he bounced the ball to home plate because it would have been spread like wildfire on the internet?

One thing is for certain, the Obama bloom is off the rose and people are starting to voice their displeasure with Obama’s policies and the economy.

And here’s the video in which you can hear the booing along with the cheers and applause:

Hey, they all get booed, best I recall. Dubya and Bill Clinton too. But it does seem that the dissents to the once-perfect president are getting louder around the country.

Getting back to Judge Sotomayor’s confirmation hearings, you can find a wide range of opinions on her responses yesterday. I personally felt queasy as she constantly downplayed what she’d said since it is intellectually dishonest not to recognize that we all have our own sets of experiences and prejudices that we inevitably bring to every situation. The key, it’s always seemed to me, is to factor in those personal views and attitudes when one is fashioning as objective opinion as is possible. In her defense, it is difficult to describe one’s own experiences as influential in one’s decisions when the confirmation hearing turns into a “Gotcha” game.

Here are some snippets of views across the spectrum about yesterday’s testimony:

Via the Volokh Conspiracy blog, from a Federalist Society Online Debate yesterday, Mike Siedman wrote:

… I was completely disgusted by Judge Sotomayor’s testimony today. If she was not perjuring herself, she is intellectually unqualified to be on the Supreme Court. If she was perjuring herself, she is morally unqualified. How could someone who has been on the bench for seventeen years possibly believe that judging in hard cases involves no more than applying the law to the facts? First year law students understand within a month that many areas of the law are open textured and indeterminate. …

Craig Crawford, writing for CQ Politics, writes that the Democrats should be the ones smiling about yesterday’s hearing. (You’ll recall that Crawford was a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton’s presidential candidacy and was critical of Obama’s qualifications.)

Does the Republican senator think it is amusing that he and his party’s condescending tone toward the Hispanic woman was costing them ethnic votes with each passing hour of Tuesday’s Judiciary Committee hearing?

It is not that the Republican inquiries were out of bounds in legal terms. But a confirmation hearing like this is a political forum.

Even if they vote for her, the fallout for Republicans could reach well beyond Hispanic voters. They are coming across as a bunch of snarky and bitter old white men who cannot bear the thought of their kind losing power.

In contrast, Lawrence Tribe, the professor of law at Harvard who has argued many cases before the Supreme Court, notes that the politicization of the hearings prevents us from getting a true picture of what kind of Supreme Court Justice that Judge Sotomayor would make:

Sadly, the Sotomayor hearings thus far have served to confirm my prediction that these rituals are structured to reveal as little as possible about the kind of justice a nominee will make. Sonia Sotomayor’s impressive academic record and extraordinary legal and judicial career already established her ample qualifications to serve. Her precise handling of the questions, to the degree they were substantive, has largely confirmed that conclusion.

Of greater interest to some has been the way Sotomayor would handle questions about the candor she displayed in speeches addressing the way a judge’s personal experience shapes the way that judge will rule in difficult cases. That candor, to me, is part of what commends her as a jurist. But it is also part of what the conventional wisdom tells a nominee to deny. …

  • ahs

    Heh. Probably pretty hard to throw in a bulletproof vest. Bush throwing that strike in a vest in ’01 was probably the best accomplishment of his presidency.

    Although, FWIW, Pujols said that the ball didn’t hit the ground:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Albert-Pujols-on-President-s-first-pitch-quot-?urn=mlb,176624

    • Docelder

      Maybe it was the first time he ever touched a baseball in his life. Ever think of that? It would have been great for Palin to throw out the second pitch. I would imagine she has thrown a few hard balls in her time. Epic failure. But the guys who set him up to bowl should know better by now.

      • ahs

        Sure, could be. Maybe they should just confine him to three-point competitions.

      • http://! stodgie

        well obama was no winner with a bowling ball either. what is he good at exactly? refresh my memory. i truly don’t think he is a gifted speaker. he relies on teleprometers too much and is lost without them. aaaahhh! he never wrote for the harvard review. he never had legislation worth anything that was truly his. so tell me please, what is he good at doing??????

        • Susan B. Athena

          Apparently he is good at hookwinking the masses and getting elected for positions he is wholly unqualfied for (and I mean that on SO many levels).

          • http://noquarter foxyladi14

            he could not have done that without Acorn.

  • ConfusedAmerican

    Ok guys is Obama getting ready to throw another one under the bus
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_clinton_s_clout

  • I’m a Linda too

    Well, what I think is funny, I caught only a small piece this morning on HLN and they showed a bad clip and hyped it up, of course, it’s US Media, which means they are ABSENT on REALITY and news.

    And when they showed a very tight short clip, I didn’t know No Class just an Ass, Obama was booed. We just knew he threw like a sissy. Hubby and I laughed… we said, yep, what we suspected, that’s why he refused to throw out all the other balls, HE CAN’T THROW…and THIS was after much practice. We rewound it, played, laughed, “yep look at that wrist, and that’s after practice”. lmao

  • Alex

    O.K., I’ll try this again.

    HUGE story from the Columbus Ledger:

    Wednesday, Jul. 15, 2009
    Soldier who says Obama isn’t president doesn’t have to deploy, Army says
    BY LILY GORDON

    U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, the reserve soldier who says he shouldn’t have to go to Afghanistan because he believes Barack Obama was never eligible to be president, has had his deployment orders revoked, Army officials said.

    Lt. Col. Maria Quon, U.S. Army Public Affairs Officer, U.S. Army Human Resources Command-St. Louis, said Tuesday evening, Cook was no longer expected to report Wednesday to MacDill Air Force Base in Florida for mobilization to active duty.

    Cook is an Individual Mobilization Augmentee (IMA), meaning he is a reserve soldier assigned to an active component unit for duty. He is assigned to the U.S. Army Element of U.S. Southern Command. Last week he filed a request in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector through his California-based attorney, Orly Taitz.

    March 2009 dismissal of complaint
    October 2008 dismissal of complaint
    Soldier balks at deploying; says Obama isn’t president
    Taitz, who has also challenged the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency in other courts, filed the 20-page document on July 8 with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia. In it Taitz asks the court to consider granting her client’s request based upon Cook’s belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.

    Cook further states he “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. … simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.”

    [...]

    http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/story/777472.html

    [ADMIN: ALEX, PLEASE QUOTE FROM A STORY RATHER THAN POST THE ENTIRE ARTICLE IN A COMMENT. BESIDES IT MAKING FOR A VERY LONG COMMENT, THERE IS THE ISSUE OF COPYRIGHT. I snipped the last half of the story, but you posted the link (thanks!), so people can click and read the rest if they want to. THANKS!]

    • tillthen

      BOYCOTT HAWAII!

    • ConfusedAmerican

      Lou Dobbs has it on radio….Lou Dobbs it taking up the issue of the BC….
      If you have weird feelings….information on the BC either call him or email him…

      • Country First

        Lou Dobbs and Fox and any of the others are about a year too late publicizing the BC issue — the cowards!

  • TorchWood

    He should get used to the sounds of boos. He’s probably going to hear it a lot between now and November 2012.

  • tillthen

    His trip to Russia was a real success. It gave enough encouragement to Putin to order a noted, prominent Chechnyan activist murdered – kidnapped and then two shots to the head.

    Nice going Barky! Now lets see what HRC will do.

    • tillthen

      I forgot to add, the Russians are shit, perfect for managing Barky.

  • Obama: Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo

    Sheesh…even Greta Van Susteren had more pepper on the ball than my messiah and saviour, the Obama Christ.

  • Peggy Sue

    I think Sotomayor is doing better this morning. Her answers are more detailed and, for me at least, clearer. In the Ricci case, for instance, where she spent some time in explaining how these panels work, the process itself, I was impressed. It turns out that short summary statements are not so unusual, but is standard fare in 75% of the rulings of the District Court because they rely on what’s come before–the original research, arguments, whatever. In this case, the former work at the appeal level was described as “very thorough.” The District Court panel looks to make sure the existing law has been applied in a proper manner. Her argument is that the Supreme Court’s ruling added a new consideration, which now insists lower courts view these sorts of cases differently.

    To me, she appears to be calm and far less on the defensive than she did yesterday. She’s also looking up more often, rather than concentrating as heavily on the note-taking. She spoke to the issue of “foreign law” application. In fact, she referenced her alignment with Scalia and Roberts [or maybe Alito] in using utmost caution in this regard.

    I did’t hear anything to suggest that Sotomayor is a crazy activist judge. She comes across as thoughtful, measured and incredibly intelligent. I don’t think there’s any question that she’ll be confirmed. And though I may not like the guy who brought her to the dance, I think Sotomayor is her own woman.

    • http://! stodgie

      color me no impressed one bit!

      • Peggy Sue

        Which proves one of Sotomayor’s point, stodgie:

        That reasonable people can reach different conclusions.

        • http://! stodgie

          my view peggy sue, there are many other as qualified potential supreme court nominees from the hispanic community that don’t carry the baggage she does. i don’t care for her.

  • tzada

    Look at this road map to disaster.

    ORGANIZATIONAL CHART OF THE
    HOUSE DEMOCRATS’ HEALTH PLAN

    http://docs.house.gov/gopleader/House-Democrats-Health-Plan.pdf

    • Karma

      Yeah….sure…that will cut costs…all those govt agencies getting paid for pushing paper and penalties.

      Where is the medical care in all that?

      Sigh…

    • Obama: Dubya’ 2 Electric Boogaloo

      Well now, that certainly clears everything up, doesn’t it? What do you mean “no”?

      Shorter organization map:

      Taxpayers ———> Screwed

  • Ginger

    Once again, we get bamboozled. Remember how the Bots said that if we didn’t elect Obama that we were going to have Justice(s) that were going to end up repealing Roe V Wade? So, here we have one who was hand-picked by him but now the question regarding her position on abortion is no longer relevant? That is the shell-game at it’s finest.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    weather we like her or not she will be confirmed.bet on it.

  • ConfusedAmerican

    What is sad is that she has been lying her A$$ off for a lot of the questions…
    I guess when you have a video or a tape of what you said it dont mean you said it…

    • Susan B. Athena

      Well…..it worked for Obama, over and over again. Are we living in a parallel universe? It sure the heck feels like it AND like it has been WAAAAAAAAAAY longer than six months!

  • Docelder

    Well since this is the open thread and since we are all going to be the “wiser” with Sotomayor regardless… More Gore… A British judge has ruled that British schools cannot just show the film “An Inconvenient Truth” to British students as factual because it contains at least nine scientific errors. If they show the film at all, the teachers must point out the errors and current actual facts about global warming. Wow, are the wheels coming off the global warming bus or what?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7037671.stm

    • ConfusedAmerican

      Hey I’ve always given the Brits for being smarter than the average bear…..
      I wish we would take some pointers from them on how to handle terriorism, plus how not to give out war information during a war.

      • Docelder

        Well, somebody needs to nominate the judge for the Nobel prize. He has more going for him than Gore does. I would like to see a Palin movie refuting the “Inconvenient Truth” and refuting that drilling in the proposed 3 square miles would harm the 586,412 square miles of Alaska… and bring in actual scientists, geologists and animal experts for this.

    • Docelder

      A couple of examples of the errors cited by the high court British judge.

      Mr Gore’s reference to a new scientific study showing that, for the first time, polar bears had actually drowned “swimming long distances – up to 60 miles – to find the ice”. The judge said: “The only scientific study that either side before me can find is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm.”

      Mr Gore’s assertion that a sea-level rise of up to 20 feet would be caused by melting of ice in either West Antarctica or Greenland “in the near future”. The judge said this was “distinctly alarmist” and it was common ground that if Greenland’s ice melted it would release this amount of water – “but only after, and over, millennia”.

  • American

    A bunch of white men asking a latina woman essentially why is she not like a white man?

    The Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot with not only Latinas, but also woman.

    Sessions the KKK apologist asking questions about race? A joke! and frankly digusting.

    “Nominated by President Ronald Reagan to the federal bench, Sessions, then a federal prosecutor, was attacked by liberals for “gross insensitivity” on matters of race. Notably, he is reported to have joked that the KKK — a violent white supremacist group during much of its history — wouldn’t be so bad but for their use of marijuana. The NAACP and the American Civil Liberties Union, he allegedly said, were communist-inspired and tried to force civil rights down people’s throats.

    Figures said that Sessions had called him “boy” on a number of occasions, and had cautioned him to be careful what he said to “white folks. “Mr. Sessions admonished me to ‘be careful what you say to white folks,’” Figures testified. “Had Mr. Sessions merely urged me to be careful what I said to ‘folks,’ that admonition would have been quite reasonable. But that was not the language that he used.”

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/sessions-colleague-i-thought-id-be-fired-if-i-objected-to-being-called-boy.php?ref=fp1

    Sessions himself would not even be qualified for the SCOTUS because of his own racists statements.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I wonder why Sen. Whitehouse was not on BO’s “white” short list.

    He is asking interesting questions, sadly her responses are not as “crisp” as I would like. Judge Sotomayor, has from the constitutional questions asked of her, come up short with her responses.

    She certianly has some great listening skills, which are to her credit, but I am not impressed with the PC responses to valid general inquries.