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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28278/sit-down-and-shut-up/#comment-1231647</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that Hillary is taking over the foreign policy from Obama.
Obama&#039;s appeasement policy is dust...

I always knew that Hillary had the foreign policy brain!
Anyone that was for Goldwater doesn&#039;t appease anyone.

Hillary&#039;s position on North Korea is the correct one.

Watching her on Fox/Greta reinforces the fact that Fox has become the right of center broadcast and welcomes Hillary as a fellow centrist.

Hillary is rising!

I have this bizarre fantasy...

That it will be Hillary vs Sarah in 2012</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that Hillary is taking over the foreign policy from Obama.<br />
Obama&#8217;s appeasement policy is dust&#8230;</p>
<p>I always knew that Hillary had the foreign policy brain!<br />
Anyone that was for Goldwater doesn&#8217;t appease anyone.</p>
<p>Hillary&#8217;s position on North Korea is the correct one.</p>
<p>Watching her on Fox/Greta reinforces the fact that Fox has become the right of center broadcast and welcomes Hillary as a fellow centrist.</p>
<p>Hillary is rising!</p>
<p>I have this bizarre fantasy&#8230;</p>
<p>That it will be Hillary vs Sarah in 2012</p>
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		<title>By: justme_kc</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28278/sit-down-and-shut-up/#comment-1231560</link>
		<dc:creator>justme_kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i appreciate being called a bitch... take it as a compliment.  Babe In Total Control Of Herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i appreciate being called a bitch&#8230; take it as a compliment.  Babe In Total Control Of Herself.</p>
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		<title>By: justme_kc</title>
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		<dc:creator>justme_kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but that &quot;to keep the state was wasting money&quot; was an absolute lie.  there will be no cost savings from her resignation.  the money for state lawyers is already going to those lawyers.  all those lawsuits were doing was making overpaid lawyers work a little harder for their salary.

so give people the real reason, not a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but that &#8220;to keep the state was wasting money&#8221; was an absolute lie.  there will be no cost savings from her resignation.  the money for state lawyers is already going to those lawyers.  all those lawsuits were doing was making overpaid lawyers work a little harder for their salary.</p>
<p>so give people the real reason, not a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Scout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama would never think of personal integrity but Hillary would. &quot;

That is a key as to why the primary unfolded as it did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama would never think of personal integrity but Hillary would. &#8221;</p>
<p>That is a key as to why the primary unfolded as it did.</p>
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		<title>By: Scout</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28278/sit-down-and-shut-up/#comment-1231539</link>
		<dc:creator>Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Arkansas Dem Chairman&#039;s name was Bill Gwatney.  His killer was shot by law enforcement after he walked into Gwatney&#039;s office and gunned him down.  No motive was ever made public.

Prior to Gwatney&#039;s murder, all the delegates from Arkansas had signed the petition demanding a roll call vote for Hillary.  At the convention two weeks later, they unanimously stood for B0.

The truth of this shameful election has not been revealed.  I wonder who, if anyone, will ever bring the truth to light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Arkansas Dem Chairman&#8217;s name was Bill Gwatney.  His killer was shot by law enforcement after he walked into Gwatney&#8217;s office and gunned him down.  No motive was ever made public.</p>
<p>Prior to Gwatney&#8217;s murder, all the delegates from Arkansas had signed the petition demanding a roll call vote for Hillary.  At the convention two weeks later, they unanimously stood for B0.</p>
<p>The truth of this shameful election has not been revealed.  I wonder who, if anyone, will ever bring the truth to light.</p>
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		<title>By: Seymour</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28278/sit-down-and-shut-up/#comment-1231177</link>
		<dc:creator>Seymour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got it Steve and thanks......if it gets hung up; it gets hung up, no problem. If I had reviewed my atrocious spelling on these posts I would have never even brought it up, LOL. 

I believe it was the site Confluence coupled with my Wife that brought me here mid last year and I’m glad that happened.  
 
It’s refreshing to come to a site with folks that express an amalgam of different thought and opinion from such diverse backgrounds. 

Thanks again Steve, 

Seymour</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got it Steve and thanks&#8230;&#8230;if it gets hung up; it gets hung up, no problem. If I had reviewed my atrocious spelling on these posts I would have never even brought it up, LOL. </p>
<p>I believe it was the site Confluence coupled with my Wife that brought me here mid last year and I’m glad that happened.  </p>
<p>It’s refreshing to come to a site with folks that express an amalgam of different thought and opinion from such diverse backgrounds. </p>
<p>Thanks again Steve, </p>
<p>Seymour</p>
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		<title>By: Still4Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Still4Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes -classic Hillary exactly the way she was in the Senate.  I love to watch her at work, but she&#039;s not into high profiles - especially at the beginning.  Anyway, the really gritty diplo work goes on behind closed doors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes -classic Hillary exactly the way she was in the Senate.  I love to watch her at work, but she&#8217;s not into high profiles &#8211; especially at the beginning.  Anyway, the really gritty diplo work goes on behind closed doors.</p>
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		<title>By: Ani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Hillary should not walk away.  She is still able to affect policy and is doing so in her position at State.  One cannot affect change within a situation while taking one&#039;s marbles and going home.  That doesn&#039;t make sense to me.  We need an adult at the table.

Is it difficult for her to be in this administration -- of course.  But since she is the real thing, I think she will outlast them all.

It is very easy, from the anonymity of one&#039;s keyboard, and make pronouncements about what she should be doing.  She has to know the realities on the ground better than we do.  The Clintons are successful political animals.  I&#039;m sure they&#039;ve weighed the options.  I&#039;m also not buying this powerful Senator crap -- those backstabbers would not even give her head of any committee much less majority leader.  If she were to buck O&#039;s policies in the Senate, once again the press would be out for blood at his behest, painting her as a sore loser.

Much as there are parts of this I really don&#039;t like, I still think she&#039;s doing the right thing and has a much bigger platform around the world now -- even if the US press tries to ignore her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Hillary should not walk away.  She is still able to affect policy and is doing so in her position at State.  One cannot affect change within a situation while taking one&#8217;s marbles and going home.  That doesn&#8217;t make sense to me.  We need an adult at the table.</p>
<p>Is it difficult for her to be in this administration &#8212; of course.  But since she is the real thing, I think she will outlast them all.</p>
<p>It is very easy, from the anonymity of one&#8217;s keyboard, and make pronouncements about what she should be doing.  She has to know the realities on the ground better than we do.  The Clintons are successful political animals.  I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ve weighed the options.  I&#8217;m also not buying this powerful Senator crap &#8212; those backstabbers would not even give her head of any committee much less majority leader.  If she were to buck O&#8217;s policies in the Senate, once again the press would be out for blood at his behest, painting her as a sore loser.</p>
<p>Much as there are parts of this I really don&#8217;t like, I still think she&#8217;s doing the right thing and has a much bigger platform around the world now &#8212; even if the US press tries to ignore her.</p>
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		<title>By: I'm a Linda too</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28278/sit-down-and-shut-up/#comment-1231143</link>
		<dc:creator>I'm a Linda too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick Leahy is coming off more and more like a very cranky, bitter old man.

Yet, the disdain that he showed when interrupting Kirstn Gillibrand, was even beyond.  My when the spotlight is on, you really can see some, can&#039;t you?

Too bad we couldn&#039;t get Gaye Symington to challenge Leahy, but, I guess that would be considered &quot;bad form&quot; and be on the outs with Democrats.  

Isn&#039;t there someone else thre that can challenge the not forward thinking Senator?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Leahy is coming off more and more like a very cranky, bitter old man.</p>
<p>Yet, the disdain that he showed when interrupting Kirstn Gillibrand, was even beyond.  My when the spotlight is on, you really can see some, can&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Too bad we couldn&#8217;t get Gaye Symington to challenge Leahy, but, I guess that would be considered &#8220;bad form&#8221; and be on the outs with Democrats.  </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t there someone else thre that can challenge the not forward thinking Senator?</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28278/sit-down-and-shut-up/#comment-1231139</link>
		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gillibrand handled Leahy&#039;s ridiculous outburst just beautifully.

She didn&#039;t back down, she didn&#039;t flinch, and made him look like a fool for interrupting her.

She can handle herself.

Tough women can save America.

Support their political candidacies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gillibrand handled Leahy&#8217;s ridiculous outburst just beautifully.</p>
<p>She didn&#8217;t back down, she didn&#8217;t flinch, and made him look like a fool for interrupting her.</p>
<p>She can handle herself.</p>
<p>Tough women can save America.</p>
<p>Support their political candidacies.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28278/sit-down-and-shut-up/#comment-1231117</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fran, Hillary&#039;s experience in 2008 is exactly why I don&#039;t believe the Republicans will ever support Palin. The leadership is already doing to her what the DNC did last year.

The only way for her to go is Independent and she doesn&#039;t have a broad base of support to take her into a national election. 

I think Hillary will come out of this as the winner too even if she is never president. Her words of support for Obama are always carefully constructed and she gives no more than what is necessary to maintain her position and he needs her diplomatic skills. Biden is a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fran, Hillary&#8217;s experience in 2008 is exactly why I don&#8217;t believe the Republicans will ever support Palin. The leadership is already doing to her what the DNC did last year.</p>
<p>The only way for her to go is Independent and she doesn&#8217;t have a broad base of support to take her into a national election. </p>
<p>I think Hillary will come out of this as the winner too even if she is never president. Her words of support for Obama are always carefully constructed and she gives no more than what is necessary to maintain her position and he needs her diplomatic skills. Biden is a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: IndieDogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndieDogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long is it going to take for us to all really get,  in our guts, that BHO is a political animal, nothing more, nothing less.

[Disclaimer: I hate the CAPS key on blogs so this takes a lot for me.]

BARRY NAMED HILLARY SOS TO MARGINALIZE HER, NOT TO REWARD HER!

She was the ONLY gorilla in the Democrat room who was a threat to him.  She got more popular votes, kicked him from one end of the country to the other in the closing weeks of the primary and, but for some caucus horse shit and some Dean &amp; Brazile back room thuggery, would have been the party nominee and probably POTUS today.

He nominated her as SOS and, poof, gone (as a threat).

But he&#039;s more ruthless and &quot;better&quot; (not a compliment) at this than even I, the crown prince of cynics, saw. I figured the trade off for having her co-opted and marginalized was to give her the foreign affairs mantle, spotlight, whatever you want to call it. I really didn&#039;t get that he&#039;d give her the job but turn off her microphone.

The man is brilliant. Just not in the way the swooning masses thought.

I guess the message here is, why are we surprised at ANYTHING this man does to advance his own political position (at least as he sees it -- Washington ain&#039;t Chicago, no matter what his entourage might think -- and storm clouds are forming).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long is it going to take for us to all really get,  in our guts, that BHO is a political animal, nothing more, nothing less.</p>
<p>[Disclaimer: I hate the CAPS key on blogs so this takes a lot for me.]</p>
<p>BARRY NAMED HILLARY SOS TO MARGINALIZE HER, NOT TO REWARD HER!</p>
<p>She was the ONLY gorilla in the Democrat room who was a threat to him.  She got more popular votes, kicked him from one end of the country to the other in the closing weeks of the primary and, but for some caucus horse shit and some Dean &amp; Brazile back room thuggery, would have been the party nominee and probably POTUS today.</p>
<p>He nominated her as SOS and, poof, gone (as a threat).</p>
<p>But he&#8217;s more ruthless and &#8220;better&#8221; (not a compliment) at this than even I, the crown prince of cynics, saw. I figured the trade off for having her co-opted and marginalized was to give her the foreign affairs mantle, spotlight, whatever you want to call it. I really didn&#8217;t get that he&#8217;d give her the job but turn off her microphone.</p>
<p>The man is brilliant. Just not in the way the swooning masses thought.</p>
<p>I guess the message here is, why are we surprised at ANYTHING this man does to advance his own political position (at least as he sees it &#8212; Washington ain&#8217;t Chicago, no matter what his entourage might think &#8212; and storm clouds are forming).</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Can&#039;t help but think Palin will be sunk by her own party&lt;/blockquote&gt;

elise, that may very well be true.  Hillary was sunk by her own party.  

Evenso, I, too, believe Hillary will end up being the winner when all is said and done - in one way or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can&#8217;t help but think Palin will be sunk by her own party</p></blockquote>
<p>elise, that may very well be true.  Hillary was sunk by her own party.  </p>
<p>Evenso, I, too, believe Hillary will end up being the winner when all is said and done &#8211; in one way or another.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, lorac.  I have every confidence Hillary knows exactly what she is doing.  She is in a much better position as SoS to make a huge difference and enhance her already steller credentials.  Were she to &#039;quit&#039; in a huff and come be our leader, she would be bashed to kindom come - and you think Sarah Palin has been criticized!  

The media is hidden in the bushes just waiting for Hillary to slip up.  And that doesn&#039;t even take into consideration the B0 administration and how they would jump on her as well.  She would be a fool to do as some are advising.  And Hillary is nobody&#039;s fool when it comes to politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, lorac.  I have every confidence Hillary knows exactly what she is doing.  She is in a much better position as SoS to make a huge difference and enhance her already steller credentials.  Were she to &#8216;quit&#8217; in a huff and come be our leader, she would be bashed to kindom come &#8211; and you think Sarah Palin has been criticized!  </p>
<p>The media is hidden in the bushes just waiting for Hillary to slip up.  And that doesn&#8217;t even take into consideration the B0 administration and how they would jump on her as well.  She would be a fool to do as some are advising.  And Hillary is nobody&#8217;s fool when it comes to politics.</p>
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		<title>By: whoframedrudy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary outranked Secretary Albright in Bill&#039;s Administration -- since then she&#039;s added to her resume with a brilliant Senate career and historic presidential run.  So I felt State was a step down for her.  Also, McCain said Hillary would be one of the most influential senators after her campaign for POTUS.

Warehouse, your analysis is keen and true.  Whether the race factor influenced her choice to run State, who knows?  But you are certainly right -- there was some real iron knuckleball played to get her out of the Senate.  I bet O, Pelosi &amp; Reid threatened all-out intra-party war.

I remember Newt Gingrich crying crocodile tears about how ruthless an opponent Hillary was.  Conservatives expected her to shred Obama like she did Newt, etc.  But she&#039;s never unleashed on fellow Dems like she did on Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary outranked Secretary Albright in Bill&#8217;s Administration &#8212; since then she&#8217;s added to her resume with a brilliant Senate career and historic presidential run.  So I felt State was a step down for her.  Also, McCain said Hillary would be one of the most influential senators after her campaign for POTUS.</p>
<p>Warehouse, your analysis is keen and true.  Whether the race factor influenced her choice to run State, who knows?  But you are certainly right &#8212; there was some real iron knuckleball played to get her out of the Senate.  I bet O, Pelosi &amp; Reid threatened all-out intra-party war.</p>
<p>I remember Newt Gingrich crying crocodile tears about how ruthless an opponent Hillary was.  Conservatives expected her to shred Obama like she did Newt, etc.  But she&#8217;s never unleashed on fellow Dems like she did on Republicans.</p>
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