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Did you hear the teleprompter crash? Open Thread

Did you?* No! Because there was none. Hillary needs no teleprompter.

Here is the press conference from Mumbai, India with the remarkable woman who should have been America’s President.

Share with us what you have read/heard so far about her trip to my fair country, India.

*The title was of course inspired by Obama’s teleprompter crashing recently in the middle of his reading.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    teleprompter.she don’t need no stinking teleprompter!!

  • gianni

    Yep, no crashing teleprompters with Hillary. She’s the real deal, so much better equipped in all facets of governance than Obama, there is no contest. I hope that when the Obama ship starts sinking and Obama is driven out of office before he finishes his first term, that Hillary is already long gone so that she does not get caught in the whirlpool.

    Hillary is my only tenuous connection to the Democratic Party. I will be back when the cancer of Obama is removed from it.

  • pal3

    i’m suprised that they don’t feed answers to Obama through the teleprompter during his press conference.
    when someone ask him a question, someone in the back room can just type the answer and all he has to do is read…I’m going to suggest this through one of BO website.

    • http://noquarter foxyladi14

      maybe they could just stick it in his ear..lol

    • tango

      There was already talk of this floating around a few months or so ago. The teleprompter would be in his podium. So after being asked the question, he’d look down, appear to be collecting his thoughts or shuffling through some notes or papers for information (just for show) while waiting for his people to feed in what he should say.

      • lorac

        I remember that. They observed Emmanuel in the back of the room typing into his blackberry, and then Obama would answer the question.

  • IndayHill

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is smart, intelligent and hard working civil servant. She is the opposite of her boss, who likes to travel around most of the time. He is an empty suit, arrogant, rude, party boy. He treats world leaders like his casual fraternity buddys.He is using his race as his ticket to “fame & glory”. How pathetic !

  • http://annienyc.blogspot.com annienyc

    She is amazing.

    • kat in your hat

      I agree. She looks and sounds great. True leader.

  • daveB

    She’s reading from a prepared text, you idiots, what the hell’s the difference? Lets yank that away and let her wing it, see how she does.

    • pm317

      You’re the fxxking idiot here. She is doing a press conference and answering reporters’ questions. I bet my last dollar she didn’t call any of those reporters the night before to ask what they are going to ask (like 0bama did last time and he also banned foreign press in Italy from his presser, the waffling weasel).

      • daveB

        Again, no difference with Obama pressers where he reads a prepared text then answers questions with no teleprompter in sight. He did not know the question Pitney was going to ask. You PUMAs are full of shit and thats why you run on like a broken record about a device that’s been used by Presidents for 50 years. And yes President Hillary would use one too.

    • Diana L. C.

      And my guess is SHE is the one who prepared the text because she delivers it so well.

    • Acaha

      You know what — I have seen her wing it — personally. I was at a fundraiser for her where this lady stood alone on a stage and answered questions somebody picked out of a bowl — in no particular order — for an hour and a half. Off the cuff, no notes, very specific. Everything from diplomatic efforts to education to charter schools to health care to you name it — pick an issue — she talked about it — answering questions — not one uh er ahm um aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand.

      She’s knows her sh*t.

      Why don’t you check out the questions she answered after her foreign policy speech the other day — it is posted here — just check Wednesday’s archives if you want to see someone who actually knows, in depth, what she is talking about.

      By the way, you can leave the insults at home.

    • Chicago Joe

      DAVE b,
      Did you watch any of the debates, pal? She cleaned his clock. And when he was asked a question, after BSing his way through, it came down to “What she said.”

    • mary

      daveB (aka THE ORIGINAL IMBECILE OF OBAMYOPIA)

      You, sweetie, are the IDIOT! Obamyopia is your affliction and you’re too goddam blinded to see beyhond your posterior orifices….from where Obummber’s policies arise.

      Obummer was even upstaged by SARA PALIN, you moronic puppet-lover! Sara’s teleprompter malfunctioned and she gave a great speech (her first). Regardless of what you think of her politics, her skills were superior to The Empty Suit-in-Chief now disgracing the country!

      Listen,moron, Obummer is an empty suit Chicago pol who disgraced himself by reneaguing on his promise to Sen.(AA) Alice Palmer. The man’s a self-serving opportunist who’s never kept a single Campaign promise.

      -Civil rights – let them have Torture
      -Wall Street – no regulatory Pecora-like Commish
      -Fed election finances – reversal since his donors
      were big insurance/military industrial industry big guns
      - FISA – Hillary against protection for cons; OBUMMER VOTED AGAINST HIMSELF!
      -
      The only campaign promise kept: WAR MONGERING A LA BUSH IN AFGHANISTAN—OBUMMER’S VIETNAM

      SO FAR 3 MILLION REFUGEES MADE BY OBAMA’S POLICIES IN LAST 3 MONTHS.

      HE IS LOOTING THE BUDGET GIVING $106 supplemental to Afgan-Paki “War effort” — what for?

      Hillary did not have a VIETNAM IN AFGANISTAN AS PART OF HER CAMPAIGN, moron!

      BLOODPATH IN AF-PAK IS BUSH TERM III = OBUMMER

      ENJOY YOUR BANKRUPTCY, Dave ….
      and start reading from sources other than “obama.org”, eh? Grow up. See your fairy tale disintegrate due to your neophyte’s gross negligence and stupidity in foreign affairs–

      Obummer = Carter II
      Obummer = Bush III

      TAKE YOUR PICK, DAVE@

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    i could listen to her talk all day.and big dawg too..
    they both have the gift of connecting,

    • rose

      After hearing Hillary ,Pres.Clinton AND Chelsea during rallies they all can talk at length about anything with true knowledge and NO teleprompters and no uh’s and um’s!

      there are no boring times listening to Hillary or Bill . I guess that’s how it is when you listen to people that are informed and actually know their subjects and connect with all kinds of people and they actually take random questions and look you right in the eye!

      • pm317

        watch Chelsea at an hour-long townhall meeting in Indiana during the campaign, no canned questions, no notes, no umms, ahs and aaaaaaaaaaands, no teleprompters!!watch her throw numbers to make her points, watch her say why her mom’s Equal Pay act is important (it is right in the beginning)..Like mother like daughter.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSLRGLQdpY0

  • alphaBeach

    Thanks for the post. Looking forward to watching…. but first a technical Q.

    With hopes to watch HRC content on my ipod, I went to the itunes store and found some subscriptions to the state dept. However, from this administration!

    Does anyone happen to know a workaround? (youtube –> itunes?) I’d prefer not to subscribe , just want to hand-pick the occasional speech by HRC. thank u.

    (this seems like a step back in “transparency” from our “intertubes” prez. unless I’m just bumbling around + missing something here.)

  • alphaBeach

    I meant: “However, not from this administration”

    • TeakWoodKite

      alphaBeach, you might try c-span.

      • alphaBeach

        thanx…. after posting I found a few tools but none that are direct enough for my liking…i’ll check out c-span.

        would be great if i could just subscribe with a podcast.

  • Diana L. C.

    I agree–Hillary is amazing, and it’s the biggest puzzle to me that she is not our President.

    I get fired up everytime she gets on the topic of women’s rights!!

    • Kathleen Wynne

      Diana,

      Hillary is not president because our elections process is corrupt and the obama camp blatantly gamed the caucus process and with the help of the DNC and the MSM, literally stole the nomination away from her.

      She won the popular vote and all of the major primaries. If the people were truly in charge of their elections process, HILLARY WOULD BE OUR PRESIDENT.

      It is imperative that the American people understand that without a transparent and public counting of the votes, we are not the ones choosing our representatives, its the party leaders who are in turn controlled by the power elite.

      OBAMA WAS SELECTED, NOT ELECTED. Therein lies the problem that must be fixed, and soon.

  • pm317

    To me the warmth of her smile is everything. And then when she is serious, she is all authority manifest in that petite (compared to the men around her) frame. Even when she says — we the developed world made several mistakes and the great country India should not fall into the same rut — she is accepting responsibility yet showing the other countries perhaps what not to do (contrast this with the nincompoop’s apology tour and lecture circuit all over the world). She does that dance and strikes the perfect balance of humility and authority most every time.

  • Slim Tyranny

    So bizarre. She’s reading from prepared notes, like EVERYONE does. There is NO difference between a printout at the podium and a teleprompter at eye level.

    Why do you obsess over this? There’s no difference. Clinton is a remarkable person, but that remarkableness has NOTHING to do with not using a teleprompter!

    This has to be the most nonsensical attack on Obama that exists these days.

    • Docelder

      Why do you obsess over this?

      Because at some point he becomes just a “see n say”. Like a cild’s toy just turn his pointer to the right thing… pull the string and watch him go. Feel free to faint in his light if you need to.

      • Slim Tyranny

        And once again, the teleprompter and the printed page are the same thing. Like I said (and like you just confirmed), it’s a nonsensical attack. Truly bizarre that so many here claim victory in this worthless comparison.

        • bobo

          Yes, there is a difference. Hillary is actually looking people in the eye and answering their questions instead of looking to someone to feed her the answers or stage an event so that she knows what the question will be before they are even asked.

          Yes, everyone usually does have prepared notes when going up for a speech. However, no one is as famously known for reading word for word off a teleprompter the way Obama does.

          • Slim Tyranny

            Again, wrong, there is no difference of substance.

            And you just lied, of course, because Obama is NOT being “fed answers” during the Q&A portion of press conferences. Both Obama and Clinton first give the prepared speech and then answer the questions without prepared remarks or answers.

            “No one is as famously known for reading word for word” — ha, I mean, what a hilarious claim. Clinton in that clip read the speech as is! Which makes sense, of course, unless you want to attack Obama over trivialities.

            Anyways, thanks for again showing why this criticism is bizarrely worthless.

            • TeakWoodKite

              Thing is Slimy, for BO they are “just words”, for the SOS they actually mean something.

              Second, reading from a TOTUS does allow for feeding BO the response. This was written about during the primaries, if you care to look it up, during BO’s townhall events.

              Third, just listening to SOS Clinton speak in contrast to BO, anyone BUT a fool can immediately tell her words come with meaning, not the hollow meaningless crap the spews from BO’s mouth.
              But hey, I don’t want “squander an opportunity”, like it is MY fault the IGIT is the door knob of “special intrests” and can’t get shit done with out having an adult pulling his illegal alien, sorry ass out of the sand box.

              • Slim Tyranny

                So by the logic of your first point, the teleprompter vs. printed paper distinction IS meaningless — Obama would still be saying “just words” either way! Thanks for agreeing with me.

                Obama has never been fed answers, and isn’t feed them during WH press conferences.

                “Illegal alien”? Is that a reference to Obama? Explain please, thanks.

                • TeakWoodKite

                  Slimy,

                  Obama has never been fed answers.

                  That’s obvious ’cause he has none.

                  He has been fed just words.

                  as to explain the difference

                  Oh, you know all the words, and you sung all the notes,
                  But you never quite learned the song, she sang.
                  I can tell by the sadness in your eyes,
                  That you never quite learned the song

                  .
                  Hedge Hog’s Song Incredible String Band

                  Hillary learned the song BO has not in spite of all the squealing he does and how sad he looks.

                  I will let you ponder what the meaning of “Illegal alien” means.

                  • Slim Tyranny

                    If you’re calling Obama an “illegal alien”, I’d love to hear the rationalization.

                    Or are you too embarrassed by your own words to back them up?

                    • lorac

                      Because he’s so “out of this world” dreamy, it must be against the law.

                    • Slim Tyranny

                      haha, that’s actually funny :)

                    • TeakWoodKite

                      Embarrassed? owwwwwoooooo..

                      Let me put it to you this way. BO for one does not belong in the sand box.
                      This makes him “alien”.

                      As for BO being illegal, let me count the ways. Going to Columbia on a foreign student visa, entering Jakarta on which passport?, Re entering the US on which passport? lying on legal forms?

                      Making is legal housing deals?
                      Not being a US born citizen?

                      Now I am gonna hear about “all this has been proven”. If you like, but two questions why has BO spent over 800,000 sealing records that all other candidates readily submitted when asked?

                      Why is BO taking money from those he rails against and what does that make you a supporter of?

              • lorac

                Exactly. When his teleprompter broke, he wasn’t able to continue his speech, he stopped until they could get it back working again – because he was reading and didn’t know what he was talking about. If you were to take Hillary’s notes away, she could still give her speech.

                • Slim Tyranny

                  So if Obama had a printed paper speech, you think he WOULD be able to continue?

                  Can you explain Teak’s “illegal alien” reference?

                  • lorac

                    No, I think without words provided for him to read, he can’t give a speech (you’re focusing on the difference between teleprompter and notes and missing the point, IMO). He needs to read someone else’s words. As Ani once put it well, he is a reader, not a leader. He exhibits serious problems when faced with speaking from his own head (either not being able to continue, or meandering, or painful um-ming with little coherent meaning). He is a reader – not a hard worker, or someone who knows what he is reading.

                    • Slim Tyranny

                      That’s certainly your opinion, and it’s contradicted by a mountain of evidence, but hey, run with it.

                      So cmon, Teak (or lorac by proxy), explain the “illegal alien” reference.

                    • lorac

                      What mountain of evidence? The whole point is that he never speaks without words being provided to him. Can you provide links to the mountain of evidence?

                      And I’m no one’s proxy, but I don’t believe you don’t know what illegal alien or iron my shirts means. You’re just trying to bait people.

                      Must be scary knowing that a huge part of the democratic party consists of non-Obamacrats. That rupture will not heal. If we didn’t fall for his cheating and manipulation in the primaries, we’re sure not going to fall for the revisionist-history attempts of his waning supporters.

                    • lorac

                      Slim, I’m really baffled by the “mountain of evidence” comment. Do you have links? I’m not being snarky, I’m sincerely blown away that you believe there is some evidence that the guy can speak from knowledge in his head. I honestly would think that an attorney would expect higher standards of competence than this guy displays.

                    • Slim Tyranny

                      His long political history, with dozens and dozens of debates. His interviews, etc. And the fact that, like Clinton, he’s a very intelligent guy who excelled in the legal environment (from law school to teaching at a highly prestigious law school).

                      No snark, I’m baffled that you think he’s not knowledgeable “in his head.”

                    • TeakWoodKite

                      excelled in the legal environment

                      ???

                      Howlllll!! ROFL,

                      1) BO can’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance without a cue card or mouthing it when standing next to someone.
                      (Lorac, remember in this game of pay to play, the proxy round has the most chance to win big!!)

                      2) BO is one of, if not THEE most legally tone deaf pols I have ever seen. Or have you read any of his DOJ filings lately?

                      3) If you mean excelled legally by defending Rezco in a lawsuit because Rezco left people without heat freezing their asses of in the middle of a Chicago winter…
                      …or writing a “brillaint” legal paper as President of Harvard law Review, or understanding that modifying the AUMF, calling it “quaint”, was the only constitutional way to stop Bush or being so legally qualified as to know there 57 states in the Union.

                      TOTUS OUT.

                    • lorac

                      I had the opportunity to read that brilliant paper he wrote when he was president of the law review, but I didn’t have an invisible ink decoder! Man, I was SO bummed!

                    • lorac

                      OMG Slim! How can you point to his debate performances as proof????? Either you didn’t actually watch them, or…. OMG it’s just amazing how people’s perceptions color reality. Obama sucked at those debates! How could a lawyer not see that? You’re really blowing me away…

                  • TeakWoodKite

                    Why on earth would lorac be required to explain the reference I made??

                    The simple fact is Secratary of State Hillary Clinton does not need the notes to give a speech.

                    A great example of this is the speeches they before AIPAC during the primaries.

                    • Slim Tyranny

                      Well, I figure some regular might know what you were referencing. So c’mon, explain.

                    • lorac

                      Slow down, Teak – maybe there’s money in it for me to be your proxy – you tell me what to say, and I’ll say it – you’ll be TOTUS, and I’ll be POTUS.

                      I think someone is fishing for anyone to take the bait and distract from the issue at hand.

                    • TeakWoodKite

                      Lorac, I must say it is a pleasure deal or no deal! In the next round of pay to play Teak pays lorac 100 letters. I use tooth picks but I am all out. (You take that on the rocks?)

                      Slimy is Toon, alright.

                  • lorac

                    I’m no one’s proxy, but I don’t believe you don’t know what illegal alien or iron my shirts means. You’re just trying to bait people.

                    Must be scary knowing that a huge part of the democratic party consists of non-Obamacrats. That rupture will not heal. If we didn’t fall for his cheating and manipulation in the primaries, we’re sure not going to fall for the revisionist-history attempts of his waning supporters.

                • http://noquarter foxyladi14

                  lol.lol.she wouldn’t even realize they were gone.

            • elise

              In press conferences, where Obama actually tales questions from the press, he reads their names from a prepared list. After the last so-called press conference he held on health care, he walked off without answering any questions as he has done many times in the past.

              He uses the media by making prepared statements with no give and take. He has done that since the one in which Helen Thomas and Chip Reed challenged Gibbs on prepared questions.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou7SGNo5QHE

        • pm317

          The difference is this: 0bama without a teleprompter looks like this.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

          Breathalizer!! ROFL

          I am the writer of this post and here is why I will keep using teleprompter reference again and again. For me 0bama’s telepromter is emblematic of all his inadequacies and chicanery. Without his fucking teleprompter and a deceiving political class and a foot licking media, he would be nothing more than a corrupt and lying Chicago pol today. Don’t you forget that!

          • TeakWoodKite

            Obama reveals another top secret program during a TOTUS mal”fun”tion.

            All the world is afraid.

      • OMG

        Too funny. :grin: :lol:

    • Texas Playwright

      Because Hillary knows what she’s talking about. She’s done her homework, prepared an organized, logical, solution oriented speech, and absorbed the main ideas and details so she CAN answer questions coherently after her speech.

      bho the fraud clearly is the snake oil salesman type. He has no deep interest or knowledge of American History, no sense of America, especially Middle America, and relies on lame, repetitive speech writing by an immature frat boy that will please the Wall Street/media corporations and other oligarchs who own him. bho the fraud spouts the “company line” and apologizes for and critizes America. Then, as political payback for the robber barons who installed him in OUR WH, he does their bidding, often contrary to what was in his speech.

      We the People who respect Hillary know her work ethic, her sense and knowledge of history, her ability to listen, study and solve problems can tell she’s reading from a speech based on HER knowledge, intelligence and experience. She has studied what she wants to read and say so she comes off as who she is–authentic.

      • Slim Tyranny

        And, of course, none of your insults about Obama have anything to do with reading a prepared speech from (A) electronic text versus (B) printed paper.

        Thanks as well for confirming my point.

        • pm317

          hey slimey, without the teleprompter, your guy will look like this. That is the difference.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

        • Animal Control

          The only point you have is between your ears.

          • Slim Tyranny

            And, of course, the personal attacks start.

            • Donna Brazile

              Slimmy:

              Isn’t love grand:-)

              Stop the defenderfest!

              • Slim Tyranny

                “Slimmy”?

                Well, I’m selective in my defending. This site obviously hates Obama, and no rational arguments are going to sway you. Which is totally fine, you’re welcome to your opinion.

                What I will point out (like in this thread) is when an argument is absurd on its face. The “teleprompter vs. printed page” distinction is a meaningless distinction.

                At least try to keep the hate rational, that’s my only reason in posting.

            • Animal Control

              Shut up and “Iron my shirts”

              • Slim Tyranny

                I don’t get it.

                • Animal Control

                  Guess you were not around during the primaries you would understand both what I wrote and also my dislike of Obama.

                  • gianni

                    No, Slim is just an Obama sycophant. Since he was backing Obama blindly during the primaries, and very likely engaged in vicious attacks on Clinton merely for having the audacity to run against his Messiah, he is totally oblivious to the extreme bad behavior Clinton endured at the hands of Obama and his sycophants, supported of course by a fawning mainstream media. Indeed, it is amazing to me that so many Obama sheep like Slim simply did not see the abuse Clinton was receiving. They don’t understand how Democrats who supported Clinton turned away from Obama, and will not return to the Democratic party as long as he is in it. Too bad. Tired of explaining it to you. But we were treated like shit merely for not supporting Obama, up to and including being called racists. The hate for Obama started there, and it multiplied with every cheap shot playing of the race card. Deal with it. That’s how it went down.

                    • Slim Tyranny

                      Wow, amazing extrapolation. Wrong, of course, but I admire the hate-based speculation.

                      I am a big fan of Clinton, and I saw the sexism leveled against her (I also saw the racism leveled against Obama; I’m an equal opportunity Democrat).

                      Fact is, “I don’t get it” is a great response to the “iron shirt” comment, since it was out of place. Just because DURING THE PRIMARY Clinton was insulted does not mean that in July 2009 personal insults against me are somehow excused.

                      But hey, I guess it’s easier to think of things in your simplistic way — Obama supporters are evil, Clinton supporters are pure as the driven snow, and because I point out the absurdity in this post, personal insults are merited.

                • NomNomNom
                  • Slim Tyranny

                    Yea, that is a terrible, asshole thing to do. It has NOTHING to do with what I said.

                    • NomNomNom

                      I’m not disagreeing re teleprompter or written notes, but Clinton is by far the more able of the 2; I agree with all assessments that say if her notes blew away she could continue intelligibly whereas BHO cannot.
                      the TOTUS meme sticks because of its underlying truth of BHO’s unfitness, particularly in comparison with Clinton.

                    • Animal Control

                      So, where were you during the primaries Slim?

                • lorac

                  “I don’t get it.”

                  That speaks volumes, if you are not “aware” of the misogyny of the BO supporters. No one who respects women would not understand this reference.

                  • Slim Tyranny

                    Heh, you’re missing what I’m saying. I get the sexist phrase, what I don’t get is why it was directed AT ME after I pointed out that people here engaged in personal attacks on me.

                    Don’t you see the disconnect? I make a rational argument, personal attack-free, and I get personally insulted — the response of “but people did it to Clinton!” is not on point and not a justification. Two wrongs, etc.

                    • Animal Control

                      Now I get it. Like Obama, everything is about you Slimy.

                    • Slim Tyranny

                      ha — damned either way, I guess. Take the irrational insults, or point out the irrationality and get called self-centered. Awesome.

          • http://noquarter foxyladi14

            but.but,if you wear a hat it won’t show.

    • Ani

      This may answer your question in re the teleprompter. Several times it has been caught on video that when Obama is speaking, the teleprompter breaks down or gets ahead of him or behind him — it is necessary for him to completely stop dead and wait for it to be fixed.

      Once they loaded the wrong speech for Bill Clinton and he just gave the right one anyway –off the top of his head — because, like Hillary, he actually knows what he is talking about.

      Here is the difference, but I am sure you know this already:

      If her notes blew off the podium, she would still continue without missing a beat because she has complete command of her facts, the policy and the message she is trying to convey at each particular stop. She is a prepared politician/diplomat, not a fabricated brand. Have you ever listened to our President er and aah and um his way through a Q&A without a prompter — it is absolutely painful and takes him 15 minutes to say what he could say in 45 seconds, so long is he meandering around the point. Why do you think he does so few where it is not canned for him in advance?

      • Slim Tyranny

        So Ari, the difference is NOT teleprompter vs. typed notes, it’s the knowledge base. Fine, make that argument.

        But that means you AGREE with me. You’re saying that, if Obama’s typed paper speech blew off the podium, then he would be unable to continue. That’s means there’s NO substantive difference between a teleprompter and a typed speech.

        Teleprompter vs. printed page is an absurd distinction, and everyone here is backing that point up, because you obviously wouldn’t immediately trust Obama’s abilities if he switched to paper.

        As for your assessment of Obama’s abilities, I disagree (shocking, I know), but we’ll never get anywhere arguing that. That’s a legitimate difference; the teleprompter nonsense is just plain silly.

        • Ani

          First of all its ANI not Ari.

          Beyond that you know good and well the only reason people are making a fuss about the teleprompter is for exactly the reason I stated above — they are not criticizing him using a prompter vs typed notes — they are criticizing his crippling dependence on it -

          CNN had video last year of him taking a teleprompter to a ten minute campaign stopover at a rodeo ring! (You can even find the video in our archives). Are ya kiddin’ me?

          This man was campaigning for twenty months saying the same thing over and over again — if he could not trust himself to speak from his heart for all of 10 minutes and share his goals and intentions with the American people without having it fed to him (in any medium) that is bloody ridiculous. And you cannot tell me there is any excuse for that.

          • Slim Tyranny

            The criticism is, in fact, about the teleprompter versus the written word. As if saying “teleprompter” is a deadly insult to a politician, but saying “printed page” is somehow totally different and perfectly fine.

            Of course, for some here, I imagine Obama could do no right regardless (short of resigning).

            • Ani

              Oh please. This is just a distracting tactic to take away from the more crucial point. The real argument is that without a script he is lost. Without a script she would NOT be.

              However people are saying it or expressing it, you can willfully interpret however you please — THAT is their main point. As I said before, a brand vs the real thing. Period.

          • Ginger

            He cannot speak off-the-cuff yet supposedly is a magna law grad. Hmmmpf.

        • Steve_in_KC

          Slim, I can see you have no willingness to understand this simple thing, but I’m going to say it anyway.

          Fine, let’s say I accept the silly point you are trying to ram down our throats, that there is no difference between a teleprompter and printed paper. Even if that’s true, what makes Obama worthy of ridicule on this subject is:
          1. his DEPENDENCE on a teleprompter, like a local TV newsreader or spokesmodel;
          2. his inability to speak coherently without one, worse than any beauty pageant runner-up; and
          3. his orchestrated press conferences, which
          have been captured on video and circulated widely, showing that he has been given the questions in advance and has either a teleprompter or a projection screen behind reporters feeding him answers to their pre-arranged questions.

          THOSE ARE THE REASONS WE THINK HIS ADDICTION TO THE TELEPROMPTER ARE WORTHY OF RIDICULE.

          The teleprompter is his trademark crutch. We didn’t invent this meme. Everyone in the media knows it and talks about it.

          • Slim Tyranny

            He is not feed answers during press conferences. That is delusional.

            • Ani

              Why don’t you look at the fact that two reporters were grilling him about the fact that he received questions in advance? Helen Thomas being one and Chip somebody or other from CBS. Those were only a couple of the complaints.

              Uh.. If he knows the questions in advance, he can prepare his answer.

              • Slim Tyranny

                In relation to the huffpost question, he knew it was going to be a question “about Iran.” Kind of a hugely broad topic, right? And it was the biggest news story at the time, so he was going to be prepared on the general topic regardless, don’t you think?

                And that was a real question, better than the nonsense about “what is the most magical thing about being in the WH”.

                • Ani

                  As usual you are distracting from the important point, but that is the best way to defend him, is it not? And you have no idea how specific the question was that was given to him — you only know what you are being fed.

                  How many other press conferences has he already had a list of who he would call on in advance? That has likewise been reported — even if he didn’t always know THEIR questions, he knows he’s going to be speaking to a “Freidnly” who is standing there kissing his behind with very little follow up.

                  Wonder when these guys will find a spine.

                  Look, believe in the man — that is cool with me. I looked at him and saw smoke and mirrors a long time ago — every single worry I had about his shortcomings, disingenuous posturings and flip flops has been realized through his current actions. I am waiting anxiously to see him do something I can feel good about.

                  I can assure you, I love my country as much as you and wish to see it succeed.

                • Seattle Moss

                  Yo Slim…

                  Only 6% of Israeli’s believe Obama wants to protect them and like myself believe that when that day comes Obama will side with his Muslim brothers.

                  As we speak Israel plans to attack Iran do to American pacifism and surrender of it’s strategic position.

                  Obama is going to have blood on his hands!

                  When the regional war breaks out the blame will be with the democrats for capitulating our position and making justifiable Israel’s obliteration of Iran’s nuclear program.

                  Obama’s refusal to support our brothers in Israel will lead to untold dead as regional war breaks out in every country in the area.
                  The election of 2012 will certainly be about solving the world depression, but also may be about finding the right strong leader who champions America first and has an idea of how to stop the regional middle east war.

                  Obama is weak…Obama causes wars!

                  • trixta

                    If Israel attacks Iran (and vice versa), the US will have to get involved….

        • pm317

          In 0bama’s case there is no difference between teleprompter and written notes. Someone else loads the teleprompter or writes the notes. It is harder to read what someone else wrote than to read it from the teleprompter. He has perfected (I use that word loosely)the art of reading the teleprompter without exactly knowing or understanding what is on it.

          Ani is right that if the pages blew away, Clinton will still be able to complete her speech but 0bama is lost beyond words (no pun intended).

          • pm317

            should read “there is a difference between..”

    • pm317

      There is NO difference between a printout at the podium and a teleprompter at eye level.

      For 0bama, there IS a difference between teleprompter and written notes. Someone else loads the teleprompter or writes the notes. But it is harder to read what someone else wrote than to read it from the teleprompter. He has perfected (I use that word loosely)the art of reading the teleprompter without exactly knowing or understanding what is on it (which is harder to do with a printout on the podium). There are times when he read from his notes, he would hardly look up, like he was digging his head into the notes. With the teleprompter that problem no longer exists. He can pretend he is looking at the audience on the side while still looking at and reading from the telepromter.

      How ignorant is this slim whatever if we have to spell it out to him like this?

    • trixta

      She may have notes, but she writes her own stuff — and could give a speech or answer questions without any notes. BO neither writes nor knows his stuff — and certainly needs a teleprompter to feed him the answers.

  • NomNomNom

    the pics of Clinton’s India trip are now up on her website (under photos left hand side): http://www.state.gov/secretary/

  • Animal Control

    Where were you during the primaries Slim?

    • Slim Tyranny

      On the internets, following the developments just like you; volunteering as a lawyer in the poll monitoring program with the Obama campaign; and trying to convince my hardcore Clinton- and Obama-supporting friends not to abandon the party if their favorite didn’t win. Check dailykos, mydd and here in the archives. What else would you like to know?

      • Animal Control

        Oh you were one of the ones calling Bill Clinton a racist and you expect me to believe that you were unaware of the iron shirts comment–how about “take her [Hillary] into a back room and only he come out”

        Who won the most primary votes for the democtaric party nomination? Can you answere this?

        • lorac

          Who won the most votes EVER in a primary? (same answer!).

        • Slim Tyranny

          Ugh — I was aware of the “iron shirt” insults, what I DON’T GET is how THAT INSULT is a response to someone here personally attacking me!

          Obama won the primary, fair and square. “Most primary votes” is a meaningless number, given the system. And really, I don’t want to get into that, do you? It’s been over for a long time at this point, and the holdout crowd will never be happy with the (IMHO, correct) outcome.

          • Animal Control

            So you don’t believe in counting votes. What kind of shyster are you?

            • Slim Tyranny

              I believe in counting votes, just like you.

              I also believe that rules set up in advance should be followed, when both voters and candidates follow those rules. Changes after the fact to the detriment of both voters and candidates is unfair.

              But really, we’ll never get anywhere with this, so I’m willing to agree to disagree for perpetuity.

              • Chicago Joe

                Yeah,except when it came time to give him delegates he didn’t earn.

                Go away.

                • Donna Brazile

                  slimmy ain’t got no friends. The other obots are waking up and realizing that Oblahhme is just an empty suit.

                  I got nothin’ but sympathy for ya slimmy man.

                  Stop the agitatorfest~

                • NomNomNom

                  and all the times the msm backing him said Clinton had quit when she hadn’t

            • trixta

              Yeah, sure, Slim, Obama “won” the primaries like Bush “won” the 2000 presidential election.

      • TeakWoodKite

        What state(s) did you do this work in Slim?

  • Disgusted

    10 o’clock shift change Your work is done slim, it was a productive day. You shoveled alot of shit today, and for that you should be proud. We will e-mail you on where you will be needed tomorrow. Don’t forget that Friday is pay-day but get there early we will only be able to pay about half of you. The rest will recieve the customary IOU.

    Hope and Change,
    Yes We Can.

    • Disgusted

      i before e except after c receive

      • jbjd

        …or when sounding like “a,” as in “neighbor” or “weigh.”

        • lahana

          …and weird words like weird

          • lorac

            …. and “foreign”….

  • Scranton4Hillary

    Wow guys–lots of point/counterpoint going on today.
    I no longer argue/debate with Obamadons any more. These delusional souls have been so brainwashed by the Kool-aid/hopium nonsense that they can’t see straight. They’re just like those crazy religious fanatics who come to your door wearing short-sleeved white shirts and $3.00 ties handing out their cult pamphlets and spreading their version of damnation/redemption. I say Amen and Bless you–be on your way.
    Obamadons cannot allow themselves to see the REAL Obama. Doing so means they would have to admit being duped, tricked and mesmerized by the Boy Wonder. The Obamadons want so desperately to believe everything BO said. Admitting their mistake now would require tremendous character and humility. Obama has deceived their vision of reality by convincing them to buy his twisted vision of hope and change.I pray that their sight will be restored soon.

  • jbjd

    The Secretary mentions that she would be meeting with members of SEWA, Self Employed Women’s Assocition, an organization with which she has been involved for the past 15 (fifteen) years. Those ‘women’s groups’ like NOW (except NY) and NARAL who supported BO against HRC can go to hell. (How long did BO say he was a community organizer?)

    • jbjd

      Assocition = Association

    • trixta

      Obama was a community organizer about as long as he was a “feminist”.

  • Scranton4Hillary

    Mr. Slim,

    Why do you post here? You know this site is completely pro-Hillary. We know Obama is the president. We deal with that cruel reality everyday. But we love and admire Hillary. You can rejoice in Obama being handed his victory, we cannot and never will. That is our reality and our viewpoint.
    The following are just a few injustices Hillary suffered during the primary from the Obama campaign:
    Fact-Hillary won the primary by over 300,000 votes.
    Fact- Delegates pledged to Hillary were actually taken from her and handed to Obama.
    Fact- Major distortions regarding racial comments/innuendo were aimed at the Clintons.
    Fact- the MSM and the DNC were in the tank for Obama. If you cannot admit that BO received preferential treatment from both- then you are either completely misinformed or limited.
    Fact-Outright lies were told about Hillary’s campaign. For one, she never campaigned in Florida–but BO DID.
    Fact-Caucauses in Iowa and Texas were filled with allegations/reports of threatening behaviors and harrassment by Obama delegates towards Hillary supporters.

    So, Mr. Slim, do you now understand what we are dealing with? At this blog, we are sharing our grief, our disbelief, and our great disappointment that Hillary is not the rightful POTUS.
    As the song says-
    I’m not ready to make nice,
    I’m not ready to back down
    I’m still mad as hell and I can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should….
    With all due respect, please respect our need to be left alone to deal with our feelings.

    • Kathleen Wynne

      Scanton,

      Excellent list of how the Chicago Way politics played out during the primaries.

      I have a friend who was in Iowa when he witnessed busloads of obama supporters coming in from Illinois to vote in the Iowa caucus!

      It was clear to him after witnesssing this kind of behavior that obama was going to “win” by any means necessary and to hell with a fair and honest primary!

  • OMG

    If only Hillary was only heading the economic and domestic issues, Dammit.

  • Hot Librarian

    HRC looked & sounded exactly like Condi.

    Condi knew we knew she was fibbing but that is SOSs do.

    They FIB for the USA. Its perfectly understood.

  • http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/ MoniQue

    What passport did Obama use in 1981?

    Paul Hollrah over at UTFSM believes the issue about Obama’s birth certificate can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question:

    What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi ?

    So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with
    the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

    And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta, and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through
    Customs and Immigration?

    The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.

    Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
    A : Yes, by his own admission..

    Q: What passport did he travel under?
    A: There are only three possibilities
    1981
    1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,
    2) He traveled with a British passport, or
    3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

    Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S.
    Passport in 1981?
    A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

    Conclusion:
    When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport..

    If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.

    And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

    Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between
    1981 and 2008..

    If you care if Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Pass this on.

    http://obamadocuments.wordpress.com/

  • standard

    I like the way she’s stumping for the environment.
    go Hillary!