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		<title>By: American Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel exactly the same way..I signed up to McCains website today...and will donate to his campaign with my next check..This will be my fist Republican vote ever...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel exactly the same way..I signed up to McCains website today&#8230;and will donate to his campaign with my next check..This will be my fist Republican vote ever&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: American Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MACHINE POLITICS WON TODAY. THIS IS THE OBAMABOT PARTY, NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
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The New Democratic Party...&#039;Eggheads and AA&quot;...what a sad day for life long democrats...

Truthteller...Do you think it is realistic for a third party to emerge this year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MACHINE POLITICS WON TODAY. THIS IS THE OBAMABOT PARTY, NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY<br />
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<p>The New Democratic Party&#8230;&#8217;Eggheads and AA&#8221;&#8230;what a sad day for life long democrats&#8230;</p>
<p>Truthteller&#8230;Do you think it is realistic for a third party to emerge this year?</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
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		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCAin should run an ad in MI saying Obama took his name of your ballot, he did not want your votes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCAin should run an ad in MI saying Obama took his name of your ballot, he did not want your votes!</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
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		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I and my husband just filled out two voter registration forms changing to unaffiliated. I am mailing a copy of it to DNC with a special comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I and my husband just filled out two voter registration forms changing to unaffiliated. I am mailing a copy of it to DNC with a special comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulahane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ulahane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good start Chris, but you missed calling us a bunch of racist, post-menstrual b*tches. You also forgot to say that it&#039;s about the math and that you don&#039;t need us inbred rednecks anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good start Chris, but you missed calling us a bunch of racist, post-menstrual b*tches. You also forgot to say that it&#8217;s about the math and that you don&#8217;t need us inbred rednecks anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are seriously going to vote for &quot;100 years in Iraq&quot; McCain over this, then you weren&#039;t much of a Democrat to start with. If you feel this strongly, then stay home and don&#039;t vote at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are seriously going to vote for &#8220;100 years in Iraq&#8221; McCain over this, then you weren&#8217;t much of a Democrat to start with. If you feel this strongly, then stay home and don&#8217;t vote at all.</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
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		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan, or truthteller or Uppity.. please do a blog with the title &quot;Obama STOLE 4 Clinton delegates and got 55 for free.&quot; 

This is it for me and my husband. We are going to vote for McCain and that will be 4 (FOUR fucking) votes Obama has to get from somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, or truthteller or Uppity.. please do a blog with the title &#8220;Obama STOLE 4 Clinton delegates and got 55 for free.&#8221; </p>
<p>This is it for me and my husband. We are going to vote for McCain and that will be 4 (FOUR fucking) votes Obama has to get from somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second that emotion.  Ickes&#039;s speech with respect to MI was potent and historic. Other than that, the DNC self-destructed today.  The persistent calls for &quot;unity&quot; are pathetic and laughable.  What&#039;s left of the Dems will be financially depleted by the lawsuits resulting from today&#039;s decisions, a clear violation of civil rights.   Sen. Arlen Spector is already on the case.  The Republicans are the only winners today.  Obama supporters were provided only with the illusion of winning, a consolation prize for the imminent failure of their candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second that emotion.  Ickes&#8217;s speech with respect to MI was potent and historic. Other than that, the DNC self-destructed today.  The persistent calls for &#8220;unity&#8221; are pathetic and laughable.  What&#8217;s left of the Dems will be financially depleted by the lawsuits resulting from today&#8217;s decisions, a clear violation of civil rights.   Sen. Arlen Spector is already on the case.  The Republicans are the only winners today.  Obama supporters were provided only with the illusion of winning, a consolation prize for the imminent failure of their candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
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		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President MCCain doesn&#039;t sound so bad does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President MCCain doesn&#8217;t sound so bad does it?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stalin I believe said it best. Something to do with votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stalin I believe said it best. Something to do with votes.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisXP</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisXP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, go Independent, THEN work for McInsane (I still won&#039;t vote for him, either). More Dems that matter that switch party affiliation -- and still keeping the values that made them Dems -- the stronger this country will become. Trading parties just goes from the frying pan into the fire, as you won&#039;t be accepted in the GOP, either (trust me, on how the conservative wings are treated you wouldn&#039;t like the reception).

We really need a viable third party of truly full vote, full humans, and full of &lt;strong&gt;GOOD WILL&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, go Independent, THEN work for McInsane (I still won&#8217;t vote for him, either). More Dems that matter that switch party affiliation &#8212; and still keeping the values that made them Dems &#8212; the stronger this country will become. Trading parties just goes from the frying pan into the fire, as you won&#8217;t be accepted in the GOP, either (trust me, on how the conservative wings are treated you wouldn&#8217;t like the reception).</p>
<p>We really need a viable third party of truly full vote, full humans, and full of <strong>GOOD WILL</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: LSekhmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>LSekhmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, slightly OT -- 

Please -- can you ban this guy?

Please?

Thank you.

Now, onto the substance of my post.

This guy illustrates just how hard a true spirit of harmony (I refuse to use that other meaningless &quot;u&quot; word anymore) is ever going to be to achieve -- because here&#039;s someone who just didn&#039;t get it.

You cannot give delegates to someone who didn&#039;t earn them.  Obama took his own name off the ballot; I have no trouble assigning 55 to uncommitted (and all going for Obama at this rate), but I have a big problem with Obama getting 59 delegates (four he didn&#039;t earn under any circumstances) &lt;strong&gt;because that&#039;s not what the voters voted for.&lt;/strong&gt;

Counting 1/2 vote for the superdelegates in both states (as I understood it) is also wrong.

I don&#039;t agree with this proceeding, and the best thing about it was Harold Ickes standing up and saying, &quot;You bet your ass it was flawed&quot; and then going on with the rest of what he said -- that &lt;strong&gt;you cannot give votes to another candidate who didn&#039;t earn them&lt;/strong&gt;.

I absolutely do not agree with this and believe it&#039;s just finished the Democratic Party for good.  The only thing I can hope for now is that Mrs. Clinton will run as an Independent and wipe the floor with these jackals (and worse).

This was emphatically &lt;strong&gt;NOT &lt;/strong&gt;democracy in action, no matter what Fowler (normally a rational individual) said today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, slightly OT &#8212; </p>
<p>Please &#8212; can you ban this guy?</p>
<p>Please?</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Now, onto the substance of my post.</p>
<p>This guy illustrates just how hard a true spirit of harmony (I refuse to use that other meaningless &#8220;u&#8221; word anymore) is ever going to be to achieve &#8212; because here&#8217;s someone who just didn&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>You cannot give delegates to someone who didn&#8217;t earn them.  Obama took his own name off the ballot; I have no trouble assigning 55 to uncommitted (and all going for Obama at this rate), but I have a big problem with Obama getting 59 delegates (four he didn&#8217;t earn under any circumstances) <strong>because that&#8217;s not what the voters voted for.</strong></p>
<p>Counting 1/2 vote for the superdelegates in both states (as I understood it) is also wrong.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with this proceeding, and the best thing about it was Harold Ickes standing up and saying, &#8220;You bet your ass it was flawed&#8221; and then going on with the rest of what he said &#8212; that <strong>you cannot give votes to another candidate who didn&#8217;t earn them</strong>.</p>
<p>I absolutely do not agree with this and believe it&#8217;s just finished the Democratic Party for good.  The only thing I can hope for now is that Mrs. Clinton will run as an Independent and wipe the floor with these jackals (and worse).</p>
<p>This was emphatically <strong>NOT </strong>democracy in action, no matter what Fowler (normally a rational individual) said today.</p>
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		<title>By: It's Not Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>It's Not Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because you CANNOT disenfranchise 2.3 MILLION voters! We are NOT republicans! We don&#039;t do that! That&#039;s why.

and since you&#039;re so damn concerned about the ROOLZ, then you must support the ROOL that states the SDs can vote for the candidate THEY believe can beat McCain in November, and that would be HILLARY, not Mr. Hope. So you will support THAT ROOL, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because you CANNOT disenfranchise 2.3 MILLION voters! We are NOT republicans! We don&#8217;t do that! That&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>and since you&#8217;re so damn concerned about the ROOLZ, then you must support the ROOL that states the SDs can vote for the candidate THEY believe can beat McCain in November, and that would be HILLARY, not Mr. Hope. So you will support THAT ROOL, right?</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisXP</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisXP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Half a vote reminds me of the Bill of Rights, that regarded Black people but half human.

Well, this decision made my sis hit the ceiling. She said &quot;I&#039;m Independent now&quot;. I&#039;m going to vote for everyone who didn&#039;t vote for Obama, for now on. I careless that it&#039;ll be beyond 2020: Obama supporters still won&#039;t get my vote. Going to get a list made up of everyone who supported Hillary, and vote accordingly.

The DNC is a sham, and did more to divide the DP than even the Rovian 24/7 campaigning GOP. Couldn&#039;t have thought they could top the 1972 fiasco either, but this DNC sure did.

&lt;strong&gt;Folks: Go Independent.&lt;/strong&gt; If your party has thrown you out, and you could never think of yourself being a Republican, time to be your own voter. At least as an Independent you will never have to be considered half a voter, or for that matter half human to this world of &lt;em&gt;undemocratic&lt;/em&gt; politics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Half a vote reminds me of the Bill of Rights, that regarded Black people but half human.</p>
<p>Well, this decision made my sis hit the ceiling. She said &#8220;I&#8217;m Independent now&#8221;. I&#8217;m going to vote for everyone who didn&#8217;t vote for Obama, for now on. I careless that it&#8217;ll be beyond 2020: Obama supporters still won&#8217;t get my vote. Going to get a list made up of everyone who supported Hillary, and vote accordingly.</p>
<p>The DNC is a sham, and did more to divide the DP than even the Rovian 24/7 campaigning GOP. Couldn&#8217;t have thought they could top the 1972 fiasco either, but this DNC sure did.</p>
<p><strong>Folks: Go Independent.</strong> If your party has thrown you out, and you could never think of yourself being a Republican, time to be your own voter. At least as an Independent you will never have to be considered half a voter, or for that matter half human to this world of <em>undemocratic</em> politics!</p>
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		<title>By: Sugar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sugar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excuse me, the voters are NOT going to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excuse me, the voters are NOT going to buy it.</p>
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