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Clinton In India **Open Thread**

By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on July 21, 2009 at 6:01 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Energy Policy, India, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

Dang, I am so glad this woman is representing our country:



Admit it – her cracking up laughing made you smile, didn’t it? Sure did me…And then the way she engaged with External Affairs Minister Krishna afterward, so warm and engaging. He seemed to be pretty happy, too.

Interesting about the whole nuclear power issue, isn’t it? About us building nuclear power plants in India? I’d love to hear your thoughts on that, especially if you read THIS article in Newsweek, or THIS one from US News. So, what do you think?

Gotta go run pick up my favorite cousin, who is also one of my favorite people (you know, blood family who is also chosen family), at the airport. But you know I’ll check in later…

  • Scranton4Hillary

    Hillary is without a doubt,simply the BEST of what America represents in the world. Hillary exemplifies the hope and promise of our nation’s future. She makes me want to be a better person.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    i will be so happy when i can call her.Madam President.

  • Peggy Sue

    Everytime I feel despondent about where we’re going, I hear HRC in one of these venues and feel better. She’s a wonderful American face and voice to present around the world. I read a presentation through the State Department site, a dialogue with Indian women, members of a craft/econonic cooperative of Indian, Pakistani and Afghani workers, who have made major strides in providing a living, durable wage to familes in this global market. They remembered HRC well from the Clinton years of the 90′s. Their admiration and respect we’re clearly evident. And it was mutual.

    As for nuclear energy? This is the one area that I absolutely agree with Sarah Palin. We need to be tapping everything in this country to limit are dependency on foreign sources. I think we’re haunted by Three Mile Island and the castrophe at Chernobyl. And certainly the waste issue is a major consideration. No one wants a Yucca Mountain in their own backyard. But we need to pull out all the stops and personal reservations to build that bridge to energy independence and green technology.

    Pretending that “green” is here is nonsense. I don’t know about you but I like to stay warm in the winter and be able to turn my lights on at night. Pretending we can do that now and throw viable energy sources out the window is insane.

    But then, if you believe in unicorns maybe anything is possible.

    Thanks for the clip, Amy. Enjoyed it!

  • Jack

    For comparison look at Obama last night on PBS.

    Not comfortable in my opinion.

    —————————

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/
    Newsmaker Interview
    Obama Signals Flexibility on Health Care Reform Timeline

    In an interview with Jim Lehrer, President Barack Obama said he could be flexible on the August deadline for a health care reform plan and discussed the state of the economy.

    —————————

    For posters, a new post might be worthy about his claim about the Bailout bill, and his comment that somehow Bush did not structure it right, implicitly blaming the current economy partly on that.

    That really raised my eyebrow! He voted for it. How else could it be “structured,” it is structured essentially to allow the Government and Fed to do anything they like.

    Also, Bush did not write the bill. He demanded it, but it was written by congresspeople and their lobbyist patrons. It was all Pelosi and B. Frank to my memory. Maybe some Dodd too.

  • Seattle Moss

    I see that Hillary is taking over the foreign policy from Obama.
    Obama’s appeasement policy is dust…

    I always knew that Hillary had the foreign policy brain!
    Anyone that was for Goldwater doesn’t appease anyone.

    Hillary’s position on North Korea is the correct one.

    Watching her on Fox/Greta last night reinforced the fact that Fox has become the right of center broadcast and welcomes Hillary as a fellow centrist.

    Hillary is rising!

  • Mandelay

    Way to go Hills!

  • helenk

    This is still going on.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

    If Hillary were president she could get most of the world to condemn and take measures to make this stop.
    I do not expect her to perform miracles but she has enough respect from the world that they would follow her lead.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • tminu

    YAH BUT WAIT

    There’s hillary touting the reinstatement of Chavez’ drug mule Zelaya, who was removed properly…

    Tres disappointing, when she stood up for Honduras for a brief moment…well, that didn’t last

    • Dee

      He was not removed properly. I think you are in the wrong place.

  • pm317

    India to the rescue. How about that!

    from the telegraph article in Amy’s post:

    The agreement puts the United States ahead of its rivals as India prepares to spend billions on modernising its armed forces, including the purchase of 126 fighter aircraft.

    Lockheed Martin and Boeing are expected to benefit from the defence deal while General Electric and Westinghouse are expected to win substantial contracts to build reactors for two new nuclear power plants.

    Canada and Sweden are also lining up to sell their nuclear wares to India.

    • Peggy Sue

      An important piece of information, pm. More puzzle pieces to get a sense of the “bigger picture” out there but one we only get flashes of, as if we [American citizens] were living on a strobe lit dance floor.

  • pm317

    Amy, you’re right about the smile when you see her guffawing like that. I wonder what Krishna said that made her laugh like that. My brother tells me that Krishna is quite a cosmopolitan, polished guy and well suited for that cabinet post. I was talking to my SIL in India and they are all smitten with Hillary and some wondered why she didn’t win (of course, I keep telling them that she won and they stole it.)

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      And how could they NOT be smitten? :-) I wonder, too, what Krishna said, but holy cow – she is just so REAL, isn’t she??

      Cool indeed abt India, right??

      • Ani

        Thanks for posting thids Rev. Amy.

        I am grateful Hillary is on the job. I know she’s making the best of a difficult situation.

  • Linda Anselmi

    Didn’t know about us building nuclear power plants in India, but it is great to see her in action and laughing. Hillary always seems to enjoy her travels to India and Asia.

    • Linda Anselmi

      Oh, and thank you RRRAmy!

    • Docelder

      We ought to be building nuclear power plants at home. Maybe Hillary could help us? Or, are we supposed to just go without inside lights and air conditioning? Who looks out for America? Anybody?

      • Country First

        No one is looking out for America — they just go around apologizing, including Hillary, and I’m sick of it.

        • Docelder

          Apologizing for global warming climate change now that we are actually cooling… apologizing for our brashness of having bested nations with thousands of years of seniority on us… I am sick of the self deprecating conduct myself. Nobody I can see besides Palin will risk anything to even stand up for us. Thank goodness for hockey moms is all I have to say. We need a second revolution.

        • felizarte

          She did not apologize. She simply stated the fact that the U.S. and other western developed countries contributed immensely to global warming. And she hoped that India could seek methods of developing without contributing to the global warming.

          • Docelder

            the fact that the U.S. and other western developed countries contributed immensely to global warming

            Except that isn’t factual at all. The vernacular is shifting away from global warming to “climate change” for that very reason. That should tell it all. It never was about environmentalism because it doesn’t matter a whit either way past being salable to the public via the media. This whole carbon offset scheme is based in misdirection. As for Hillary, she needs to either take her signature stamp away from Obama and jump ship… else get on fully with him and go down with the ship. She is trying to balance being “in it” but not really so that when the epic failure becomes apparent she is still seen as “go to” but not seen as part of the crew of the sunken ship. Nothing against her personally, but I think this will prove to be a fool’s game.

        • olivia1998

          She did apologize it’s very clear. I still believe Hillery would have made a better POTUS by far. I really believe that. I do however have a problem supporting her when she supports Obama.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Interesting Op-ed in The Hindu as it relates to what SOS Clinton has to deal with.
    Two countries not working so well together and and both wanting US arms and technology. It will be a tough nut to crack.

    On September 18, the CIA delivered the first of two warnings of an impending Lashkar attack on Mumbai. Couched in general terms, it was delivered to India through the Research and Analysis Wing. In response to an Indian request, the CIA delivered further details on September 24, warning expressly that the Lashkar was planning to hit multiple targets including the Taj Mahal Hotel. India’s own intelligence services also warned that an attack was imminent.

    Pakistan’s own intelligence services, though, passed on nothing. Either the ISI was not watching the Lashkar or did not stop the operation, undermining Islamabad’s past promises to end anti-India terrorism

    • pm317

      Hello Teak! Thanks for the link. You might enjoy reading this:
      http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/MJ-Akbar/The-secret-life-of-foreign-secretaries/articleshow/4711037.cms

      Foreign secretaries are foreign service diplomats (not to be confused with a cabinet minister).

      • TeakWoodKite

        Hey Pm317, now that IS funny! He he!

        The op-ed conveys the same level of distrust. Though it does appear that BO gave away the store today.

        I would sooner trust the politics of India than the politics of Pakistan. The “old ways” of doing things are not working and never in my born days could I imagine BO doing this gig. Sure Glad Hillary is. Pity she has to deviate from what might be her agenda.

        In the subtext of what I have been able to read so far, there is a very difficult task of protocol for Sos Clinton, in spite of the deals with India, getting these two countries to co-operate and not offending either party is like two siblings vying for attention and priori.

  • jackie

    Hillary’s been getting great press on her trip. Too bad the American press doesn’t appreciate/cover her. She’s a national treasure.

  • elise

    Rev Amy, thanks for the video of Hillary at work. It’s wonderful to hear her laugh again.

    The Chernobyl disaster was a result of human error and how can anyone be sure even if safeguards are in place? Then there is the problem of disposal of the waste which hasn’t been resolved. How will India deal with that?

    At first glance, it appears to be a clean, cheap supply of energy, but some of the reactors in the US and France are more than thirty years old and people need to understand there are dangers and be willing to accept the risks.

    Also if we accept this as a long term solution to energy independence, research into other, safer sources may dry up.

  • NomNomNom

    “nuclear parks“:
    PARKS??
    jeebus freaking xmas: they are not parks.

    http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/ecology/chernobyl-wildlife-sanctuary/199
    http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Rana_aurora.jpg/240px-Rana_aurora.jpg
    See the difference?

    Nuclear power is not clean. France, other EU nations, and now the US ships tons of nuclear waste to Russia.
    There are superior technologies that might be pursued http://www.ecogeek.org/component/content/article/2815
    Nuclear is another filthy energy run by oligarchs.
    http://www.alternet.org/environment/141260/taking_shorter_showers_doesn%27t_cut_it%3A_why_personal_change_does_not_equal_political_change/?page=entire

    • Docelder

      Nom, more and more every business is being run by oligarchs. We see it now the bigger businesses are eating up the assets of the smaller and using money borrowed from us to do it with. Nuclear power isn’t without it’s problems, but it has been around for a long time so we know what those problems are. Truthfully, what worries me more are the science cowboys playing with the Hadron collider and now going to the moon to “play” with He3. I hope they have the sense not to try out fusion on the surface of the moon remotely via satellite.

      • NomNomNom

        no way I will ever support nuclear: the cost of storing waste, decommissioning old plants, security (when we actually have any), the risk of dirty bombs, risk of disaster, and general unethicalness of foisting off our hazardous waste on others too poor to say no are imo insurmountable.
        I don’t want any of the hadron collider, helium3 crap either. or HAARP.
        jmo our fascist oligarchy (oligarchist fascism?) is the root of the problem: it’s past knitting time.

        • Docelder

          oligarchist fascism?

          I think we are on new ground here. In fascism the government partners of sorts with business. We see the word “partnership” being applied loosely across the board in government now. But what is it exactly when big business effectively has bought and for all purposes owns government? Your definition is as good as anybody else’s Nom.

  • pcfs

    I am so proud of Her. We are lucky to have her in this administration. Be Safe Madam Sec.

  • Carmen

    She is not representing our country! And she sure as hell is not speaking for Americans. She is doing Obama’s bidding. What the Hell was she doing voicing the same apologizes as Obama in India? I used to think a lot of the Clinton’s and voted for them and her. But more and more I see, she is letting her Alynski background “It takes a village” commie crap come out too. Now she is behind him pushing Isreal to give up Jeruselam? Hell no! You people may not, but most Americans DO NOT BACK the way this administration is treating Isreal.
    Why does’nt she talk about all of the inventions, discoveries, medical breakthroughs, terrible illnesses we have cured that benefit India, China, Russia, and all countries. Fuck her! A differance that MAKES no difference, IS no difference.

    This is not trolling either. I really was all for Hillary in the election and thought she got screwed. But now I see, it was all a plan that she has been in on since even back when Bill was Pres.
    One world order, one government, one militray, America giving up it’s rights to some UN authority. No Thanks Hillary, Obama, and the shadows behind you. I am not interested!

  • Mari

    Hillary is truly wonderful! If only she were our president! Our economy would be fixed, we’d have cheap health care for all, and Iran and North Korea would have fallen into line months ago!

    • Peggy Sue

      Believe it not, Mari, Hillary Clinton’s supporters do not think she’s wonder women. The admire her for what she is: incredibly smart, strong and experienced.

      That’s good enough for me, and it’s why I did not want an illusion in the White House. We’re seeing what happens when the facade of leadership qualities begin to crumble. There’s a difference between campaigning and doing the job itself.

      So take the snark and drag it someplace else.

  • Seymour

    I’m certainly not liking this one itty bitty tiny bit…

    “Efforts to broker an end to the Honduran power struggle collapsed on Sunday, after interim leader Roberto Micheletti rejected a proposal to reinstate the overthrown president.

    Clinton spoke to Micheletti by phone after the talks fell apart and warned him he could face cuts in economic aid unless he strikes a deal with his rival”.

    Honduras is following what they believe is their Constitution backed by 70% of its population, its Supreme Court and its Military apparatus. What does Obama have in mind for the S. American Dictators Club for Men?

    I don’t want to find out other than allow this country to abide by its own Constitution and laws.

    C’mon Hillary, this is going against your grain. I would hope that if you were POTUS that you would support the actions of a lone Democracy.

    Am I wrong on this?

    Seymour

  • b mathews

    i know this is a bit off topic but had to post it anyway. last nite on lou dobbs there was some discussion about obamas birth certificate!!!! finally someone in the msm is talking about it!! its been going around the net since before the election and they have finally caught up. better late than never .i hope hannity gets wind of this now that its out in the open. hannity is going after obama big time now and im sure he’d love to get his teeth into this. theres an email circulating called “HAVE WE BEEN HAD?” (too long to reprint it here)thou im sure many of you have seen it. someone needs to send it on to hannity. we must keep this going and force the msm to start talking about it.

  • Lisabona

    I agree, not totally, with Carmen. I admired Hillary, voted for her, but I was disappointed when she accepted to be part of this administration. It made me change my opinion about her.My principle in life was/is, to not compromise my beliefs, not evan for personal, political or financial gains. I had a pleasure to listen on Fox Channel, Dr. Elizabeth( I can’t remember her full name) from Arizona, who gave-up her 30 year old job, because she is convinsed that,the 0bama Healthcare reform would hurt the american people instead helping them. Nothing could be more than respect for her standing ferm behind her principles and what she believes is fair.

    • mary

      Lisabona

      Why did you have to “change your mind” about Hillary? Because she believes she should spend her life in public service? Because she is a diplomat at heart–just see the morale and high it’s climbed since she took over the State Dept!
      Because she is being Loyal (as much as you and I disagree) to her Party and country??
      You could NEVER have been a Hillary supporter then…

  • o

    She needs to resign

    • mary

      Quitters should never run for Presidents

  • mary

    Hillary has been to India many times with her family. She is truly a “friend of India”–and they all know it! Her graceful manner is appreciated by these gentle people and she didn’t miss a beat when she was in New Delhi to go to SEWA self-employed Indian women’s association that she hadfirst visited in l995! She never forgets…and seeing 2 American college mates was a plus for her…altho her security detail pulled away after her very brief chat (they had been shouting from the trenches her name!)
    She had joked herself a few years back that she was referred to as “The Senator from PUNJAB”!

    There was a truly horrible, biased article in HuffPost a couple of days ago and when I wrote toprotest, i found i was “banned”!! Welcome to Obamaland…