Comments on: Exposing the Lack of Fiscal Sense in Obama’s Fanciful Health Care “Plan” http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/ Sun, 27 May 2012 07:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: JP http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1237862 JP Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:09:25 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1237862 I don't understand how people can argue that Radiological Services are too expensive. Most of the lives saved today have something to do with our technological advances in imaging. Look at Natasha Richardson in Canada? In any rinkydink hospital in the US, the first thing they would have done is a CT of her head and she would have been saved. People argue that they want cheaper healthcare but don't realize that we have the most expensive but BEST healthcare. You get what you pay for folks. Be careful what you wish for. Cheap will never be good. Our government runs nothing efficiently nor state of the art. Look at VA hospitals! What a shame that we treat our vets that way. I don’t understand how people can argue that Radiological Services are too expensive. Most of the lives saved today have something to do with our technological advances in imaging. Look at Natasha Richardson in Canada? In any rinkydink hospital in the US, the first thing they would have done is a CT of her head and she would have been saved. People argue that they want cheaper healthcare but don’t realize that we have the most expensive but BEST healthcare. You get what you pay for folks. Be careful what you wish for. Cheap will never be good. Our government runs nothing efficiently nor state of the art. Look at VA hospitals! What a shame that we treat our vets that way.

]]> By: ccwarrior72 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1234575 ccwarrior72 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:20:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1234575 Little off the subject worth mentioning Dr. Orly Taitz Esquire Takes The Obama Eligibility Question To The Steven Colbert Show , NPR And Others It's NOT going away http://countusout.wordpress.com/ Little off the subject worth mentioning

Dr. Orly Taitz Esquire Takes The Obama Eligibility Question To The Steven Colbert Show , NPR And Others
It’s NOT going away
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]]> By: tzada http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232826 tzada Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:36:26 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232826 <strong>Rahm Emanuel: House Will Vote On Health Care Before Recess</strong> <strong>White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel tells NPR he expects a vote on health care in the House "next week." </strong> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/07/24/rahm_emanuel_house_will_vote_on_health_care_before_recess.html Rahm Emanuel: House Will Vote On Health Care Before Recess

White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel tells NPR he expects a vote on health care in the House “next week.”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/07/24/rahm_emanuel_house_will_vote_on_health_care_before_recess.html

]]> By: tead off http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232798 tead off Fri, 24 Jul 2009 05:46:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232798 surfered --If Obama wanted to cover those without Healthcare he could have covered all of them for about 29 Billion a year out of the Stimulus Plan. But Obama would rather create chaos instead--lets move 120 Million out of their Health Insurance. What could go wrong with that? surfered –If Obama wanted to cover those without Healthcare he could have covered all of them for about 29 Billion a year out of the Stimulus Plan. But Obama would rather create chaos instead–lets move 120 Million out of their Health Insurance. What could go wrong with that?

]]> By: Hot Librarian http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232791 Hot Librarian Fri, 24 Jul 2009 05:11:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232791 American radiology. Firstly it costs a bomb to train up as a radiologist & a fortune to set up shop as a radiologist. A family member works for the biggest E-net imaging company which relays after hours radiology tests around from American hospitals /clinics to the world & after images are prioritised the images are interpreted by Us radiologists & diagnosis relayed back. An aneurism can be interpreted by staff ,prioritised to the radilogists & the diagnoses can be back in the hospital within 25 minues! The costs ae enormous . Every radiologist must be registered in 48 states. These offics are in smart countries -currently Sydney Australia & Zurich Switzerland -2 countries with high medical training. Thats how good American health can be & IS!!! My kid has spotted aneurisms as the image is downloading & red alerted several times & saved american lives. The insurance companies always pay up. It must be expensive but W O W !!! American radiology. Firstly it costs a bomb to train up as a radiologist & a fortune to set up shop as a radiologist.

A family member works for the biggest E-net imaging company which relays after hours radiology tests around from American hospitals /clinics to the world & after images are prioritised the images are interpreted by Us radiologists & diagnosis relayed back.

An aneurism can be interpreted by staff ,prioritised to the radilogists & the diagnoses can be back in the hospital within 25 minues!

The costs ae enormous . Every radiologist must be registered in 48 states. These offics are in smart countries -currently Sydney Australia & Zurich Switzerland -2 countries with high medical training.

Thats how good American health can be & IS!!!

My kid has spotted aneurisms as the image is downloading & red alerted several times & saved american lives.

The insurance companies always pay up. It must be expensive but W O W !!!

]]> By: Andy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232752 Andy Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:53:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232752 Indeed Peggy-Sue; I agree. I'll look up Susan Estrich's article. Thanks for the tip. Indeed Peggy-Sue; I agree.

I’ll look up Susan Estrich’s article. Thanks for the tip.

]]> By: foxyladi14 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232583 foxyladi14 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:11:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232583 i wouldn't sign any thing i hadn't read and understand. yet congress does it all the time.pityfull bunch. i wouldn’t sign any thing i hadn’t read and understand.
yet congress does it all the time.pityfull bunch.

]]> By: Nellie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232468 Nellie Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:09:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232468 Masslib, I agree with you. However what no one seems to be understanding is the fact that "Obamacare" is in actuality an attempt to make GENOCIDE palatable and socially acceptable. Anytime you target a specific group in society for denial of health care and the resulting deaths, <strong>that IS a form of genocide.</strong> And to make matters worse, Obama is recommending "pain killers" in lieu of actual medical help. This video makes it VERY clear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo So instead of medical care, the elderly are turned into dying drug addicts??? Susan, I agree, We need to set priorities and fix some of the most pressing problems, like jobs and the security of knowing people can keep their homes. Then we can take time to eliminate the rampant corruption in DC which is costing all of us dearly in many different forms. After, we can look at the details of some of the single payer European Plans, and see which one is best for America. The outcry right now needs to be: <strong>"NO genocide of the elderly"</strong> and <strong>"If the plan is not good enough for congress to accept for their families, it is not good enough for the taxpayers who foot the bills.</strong> Just my thoughts. Masslib, I agree with you.

However what no one seems to be understanding is the fact that “Obamacare” is in actuality an attempt to make GENOCIDE palatable and socially acceptable.

Anytime you target a specific group in society for denial of health care and the resulting deaths, that IS a form of genocide.

And to make matters worse, Obama is recommending “pain killers” in lieu of actual medical help. This video makes it VERY clear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo

So instead of medical care, the elderly are turned into dying drug addicts???

Susan,

I agree, We need to set priorities and fix some of the most pressing problems, like jobs and the security of knowing people can keep their homes.

Then we can take time to eliminate the rampant corruption in DC which is costing all of us dearly in many different forms.

After, we can look at the details of some of the single payer European Plans, and see which one is best for America.

The outcry right now needs to be: “NO genocide of the elderly” and “If the plan is not good enough for congress to accept for their families, it is not good enough for the taxpayers who foot the bills.

Just my thoughts.

]]> By: Andy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232456 Andy Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:54:08 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232456 They don't have the votes? Or they are reading the pols that say that over 53% of the public strongly opposes this? Or maybe they realize the American people deserve a fuller, deeper and better explanantion of what the hell is the bill about and to do so, Pelosi and Reid need to spend the recess READING the damn bill to learn themselves what's in it; since neither they nor the president seem to know how to answer specific targeted questions by the public... They don’t have the votes? Or they are reading the pols that say that over 53% of the public strongly opposes this? Or maybe they realize the American people deserve a fuller, deeper and better explanantion of what the hell is the bill about and to do so, Pelosi and Reid need to spend the recess READING the damn bill to learn themselves what’s in it; since neither they nor the president seem to know how to answer specific targeted questions by the public…

]]> By: Anne http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232452 Anne Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:47:14 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232452 That profit won't be taken home anyway. It would have been operating capital to cover payroll. If it gets taxed, down goes the payroll. That profit won’t be taken home anyway. It would have been operating capital to cover payroll. If it gets taxed, down goes the payroll.

]]> By: Andy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232450 Andy Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:45:32 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232450 I know what side you are on as well: big pharmaceuticals. Where in this bill is the Gov. regulation of the Pharmaceutical and Insurance companies ? Crickets...Because they are on the inside helping write this bill. Call me when your premium goes down while keeping the same level of coverage or better... I know what side you are on as well: big pharmaceuticals.

Where in this bill is the Gov. regulation of the Pharmaceutical and Insurance companies ? Crickets…Because they are on the inside helping write this bill.

Call me when your premium goes down while keeping the same level of coverage or better…

]]> By: masslib http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232445 masslib Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:37:31 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232445 The public option is a sham. We need Medicare for All. The CBO predicts the pub opt will enroll only 0-`0 million people. The public option is a sham. We need Medicare for All. The CBO predicts the pub opt will enroll only 0-`0 million people.

]]> By: WMCB http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232436 WMCB Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:08:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232436 Well that's just dandy, but what is being proposed is not in any way shape or form what those other countries have. Read the damn bill. It does zero, zip, nada to address the obscene profits of the insurance companies. It actually creates a "firewall" to protect them. You know, the same insurance execs that have been regularly having secret meetings with Obama in the whitehouse. Sort of like Cheney did with the energy bill - how'd that one work out for the oil companies? Again, stop blindly believing vague statements of "intent" and slogans like "Reform! Hope! Change!" and READ THE DAMN LEGISLATION BEING PROPOSED. Well that’s just dandy, but what is being proposed is not in any way shape or form what those other countries have.

Read the damn bill. It does zero, zip, nada to address the obscene profits of the insurance companies. It actually creates a “firewall” to protect them.

You know, the same insurance execs that have been regularly having secret meetings with Obama in the whitehouse. Sort of like Cheney did with the energy bill – how’d that one work out for the oil companies?

Again, stop blindly believing vague statements of “intent” and slogans like “Reform! Hope! Change!” and READ THE DAMN LEGISLATION BEING PROPOSED.

]]> By: tead off http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232431 tead off Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:55:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232431 The results of a brand new Fox News Polls shows that when asked which is the most important issue of the day 76% said the Economy--only 12% said Healthcare. Now in addition to Reid declaring that there will be no vote on Healthcare before Congress's vacation--Pelosi has just announced that she will not take a vote before the recess. The results of a brand new Fox News Polls shows that when asked which is the most important issue of the day 76% said the Economy–only 12% said Healthcare.

Now in addition to Reid declaring that there will be no vote on Healthcare before Congress’s vacation–Pelosi has just announced that she will not take a vote before the recess.

]]> By: tead off http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/28604/exposing-the-lack-of-fiscal-sense-in-obamas-fanciful-health-care-plan/#comment-1232427 tead off Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:48:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=28604#comment-1232427 No Craig -- the word we need to keep in mind is rationing, rationing, rationing. My husband's brother and sister-in-law live in England. He went to the doctor because he was bleeding badly from the rectum. No medical history was asked taken. If it had been he would have told the doctor that his father died of colar/rectal cancer. However, even if family history had been taken into account it is almost impossible to receive a Colonoscopy. Instead he was given an anti-biotic and told to go on vacation and forget it. He was dead 4 days later. Its about the rationing baby!!! No Craig — the word we need to keep in mind is rationing, rationing, rationing.

My husband’s brother and sister-in-law live in England. He went to the doctor because he was bleeding badly from the rectum. No medical history was asked taken. If it had been he would have told the doctor that his father died of colar/rectal cancer. However, even if family history had been taken into account it is almost impossible to receive a Colonoscopy. Instead he was given an anti-biotic and told to go on vacation and forget it. He was dead 4 days later.

Its about the rationing baby!!!

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