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2nd Thread: [Updates: Hillary Video Today on Campaign Plane + ABC News Report That Hillary is NOT Conceding!] South Dakota! From American Research Group

2nd Thread || original story and comments (which is reprinted in FULL below the fold):

HILLARY IS IN IT ALL THE WAY! SEE ABC News UPDATE below the fold — it’s hot!


June 2, 2008 – South Dakota Democratic Primary Preference
South Dakota

Democrats May 31-June 1
Clinton 60%
Obama 34%
Undecided 6%

Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama 56% to 39% among men (46% of likely Democratic primary voters). Among women, Clinton leads 63% to 29%.

Clinton leads 57% to 38% among voters age 18 to 49 (46% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads 63% to 30% among voters age 50 and older.

11% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the primary and 27% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary.

For details, click on the R or D for each state in the column on the left under 2008 Presidential Polls.

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UPDATE From ABC News’s blog:

ABC News’ Kate Snow and Eloise Harper Report: Clinton spokesperson Mo Elleithee came to the back of the press plane as Clinton flew from Rapid City to Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

He was asked about Clinton’s definition of when a nominee would be determined -– because she has refused to accept the new 2,118 delegates number that the Democratic Party says is needed to clinch the nomination. 

"I think its pretty clear that she is not conceding." Elleithee said, "I think its pretty clear that she is staying in this race. She is going, in the coming days, to be aggressively courting uncommitted superdelegates aggressively courting unpledged delegates, making the case to them that she is a candidate best ready to take on John McCain."

When asked directly when Clinton will step aside, Elietthee told reporters, “as she has said dozens and dozens of times she is in this race until we have a nominee…Until there is a nominee she is going to try to win support."

He continued “until there is a nominee we are going to still work to become that nominee. When asked when they would determine a nominee would be selected –- because the Clinton campaign has refused to accept fully the 2,118 number –- Elleithee said, “we’re exploring — she has said before she wants to have this to be resolved before the convention — we are reviewing our options.”

Eliethee continued, “We do not expect that a nominee will be clear tomorrow night … she is mostly going to be working the phones and meeting with these delegates."

When asked why Clinton was spending tomorrow in New York at an event the campaign is calling a "victory party," Clinton’s spokesperson said, “it’s a good way to close out this phase of the campaign is come to New York bring all of her supporters together, have a big celebratory election night party as we move into the next phase of the campaign which is obviously the courting of these delegates.”

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    • http://psychobabbleandpotpourri.blogspot/com/ Nobamagirl

      Not only must she stay in until every last vote is counted, but she must give serious thought to running as an independent…It’s clear there is no Democratic Party after Saturday’s sellout…she owes them nothing. Talk about being entitled? What in the world makes Obama et al think that in the face of what voters are demanding, that SHE needs to be the one to concede? How dare he?

  • american sawbuck

    Rise Hillary Rise

    • Felix Rodriguez

      Sawbuck, that was my line! I keep saying it… If we’re seeing what Maya Angelou is seeing, then we can’t possibly be wrong.

      • Andy

        Exactly !!! Well said Felix Rodriguez

  • Myshiba

    You go, go, go girl!

    • jes

      Go all the way to the Denver Convention and take these vote stealing SOB’s at the DNC to court while you’re at it.

      • layla

        YEAH! YEAH! YOU SAID IT!

      • ginaswo

        Hillyeah we will!!!!

        BOOYAH!!!

        • cc

          I just hope and pray Hillary stays in through August…there’s so much time for people to wake up from their koolaid induced haze. Obama’s train is derailing more each day that passes. Please, Hillary, please stay in.

  • thenana1

    Go Hillary!

    Hillary or McCain 08

    • Michael

      This is it in a nutshell. Regardless of what one thinks of Obama — I won’t bother trying to sell anyone on this site on the good Senator’s virtues — how could any rational human being type “Hillary or McCain ’08″? The two candidates are completely, utterly, diametrically opposed to one another on practically every significant policy issue. How could you switch your vote from one to the other, unless you care only about personality when you cast your presidential ballot?

      • Myshiba

        Hillary or McCain 2008 (no one else is qualified or comepetent, that’s how)

        • Scully

          Hillary or McCain ’08! (I can do it too!)

          • blobert

            Damn I love this blog!

          • so saddened

            hillary or mccain ’08. no other option.

            i can do it too.

            “how could any rational human being….” – another fine example of the brilliant persuasive techniques of the obamaloons. i wonder if this is part of the ayers education program.

        • openmind | is an asshole

          I AGRRE

          HILL OR MCCAIN 2008

          • RosWa

            HILLARY or MCCAIN 08

            never OBAMA

            • http://Greatarticle! Terry

              One more: Hillary or McCain. Never Obama.

      • NY still loves Hillary

        That’s because Barky “United” us. (To fight against him, that is.)

        • hillarysmygirl

          Hey, yeah, maybe he IS a uniter!

      • Northwest rain

        It is obvious — the only choice is McCain or Clinton for people who LOVE America.

        Obama is a National Security risk.

        His wife– well she is a ticking time bomb.

      • ginaswo

        LIKE THIS

        Hillary or McCain 08

        I want Hilary she is the progressive candidate
        she is the only real Big D Dem in the race IMHO

        But I know McCain, I know is ideology adn I know his positions..

        Obama, not so much-we know NADA ZIP ZERO ZILCH
        he has no history except the one he cribbed…

        he also wants to raise my SS payroll taxed 30% and his advisers are notorious SS privatizers..with Hillary at the helm to shephard things through and make sure the middle class wasnt hurt I would gladly pay more taxes, not to bring Chicago Combine national, McCain wont tax me and promised to keep SS strong and ADD a private component not defund it, And I trust McCain on his word, Obama hmmm not so much

        Obama voted for the Cheney Energy Bill, he wants to give 5000 tax credit for health insurance, guess what so does McCain!! but I trust McCain not to sell America down the river, again Obama, not so much…

        • roger, too

          Of course hew ants to privatize SS, with his record of “investment” board shenanigans, can you imagine the kickbacks!

          Yow, first the IL hospital and teachers board funds, next the US social security funds…

          Ask Tony Rezko, he knows a thing about retirement fund investment, and kickbacks…

      • HillaryMadamePresident

        Hillary 2008 or McCain 2008!!!!!

      • thenana1

        It is really easy to type and fully believe in the following

        HILLARY OR MCCAIN 08

        Just put your fingers on the keyboard, and type.

      • AC-n-NC

        Hillary or McCain 08….

      • Hillaryormccain08

        Well some of us think that Obama is unqualified to be Dog catcher. He is a very stupid man not only because he thinks their are 57 states and one more to go but also because he thinks that he can continue to steal elections. This is not Chicago and that Chicago Politics are not DC poltics. I am saying this as a black woman and I do not feel bad about saying this but I hope the Republicians play the race card on Obama real bad. That would be what he gets for playing the race card on the Clintons.
        Also she is not going to drop out I knew it anyway.

        • Hilary4HRC

          Good comment — the affinity shown for the African American community on the part of the Clinton’s has been there all the time. Playing the race card against the Clintons was a cheap shot.

          Unfortunately the Republicans will probably really go after him, but I agree with you………… he kind of deserves it!

        • stodghie

          thanks for your comment. i always thought it broke bill’s heart to have such slurs thrown at him.

      • MikeB08

        Well, I would vote for McCain strictly to vote against Obama. Pretty simple really.

  • Joree

    Josh Orton at myDD has his shorts in a twist over comments by HRC. Josh, maybe she is mystified that the MEDIA isn’t just letting the VOTERS speak???

    She is too smart to make a problem now, at the end of the primaries.

    • Myshiba

      MyDD can go fly a kite!

  • Betty

    I am so glad she is not buying what the snake oil salesmen are selling. I think her big meeting in NY is about support for her run as an Independent.

    The rules committee is in trouble, I wondered how the Democratic Party could have a primary run by a sovereign State and paid for with citizen’s tax money and then treat it like the votes were merely suggestions. And guess what – they can’t.

    • Myshiba

      Right on Betty!

    • hillarysmygirl

      I think she just wants to have a big celebratory party for her win of the Popular vote and then sleep in her own bed instead of a hotel room! She’s been on the road forever.

    • ginaswo

      Loves it!!!!

  • Cooney

    The Obamabots are in a frenzy, they are about to have a grand mal seizure, hence all the rumors. They are looking at the SD and WY polls too. How will it look if he looses both. He needs a deflection quick. Get out of the way the rumor kitchen sink is flying. They have to steal all the headlines to distract the media away from tomorrow. I wish Clinton would get out there and give a press conference and steal the limelight back. Give the dipshit media heads something to talk about.

    • The Real Hope

      Looks like he’s going to lose South Dakota. Let’s just hope the four point spread in Montana leans towards Hillary in the last few hours.

  • It’s Not Me

    G-d, I LOVE her! Can you imagine how pissed off the DNC and the Obamarhoid camp is?

    GO, HILLARY!!!!! Fight! Take it to the convention!

    • Hillaryormccain08

      I think the Obamabots have nothing to do then to bother us. They must miss their moms. Anyway lets ignore the little roaches. I think she is going to stay in and I do not think she is going to unite with the king roach. They only come out at night.

  • Cooney

    Oops! Wrong state.

    • wry

      That’s OK Cooney, you’re among friends.

  • Joree

    Thanks, Cooney, I’m like, Wyoming?? :)

  • pm317

    If we accept RBC’s MI theft, we have forfeited democracy. There is no way we can accept what they did. 2118 is not legitimate and Obama if nominated with that number is not legit. We will support Hillary to take it all the way to Denver.

    • hillarysmygirl

      I want a delegate too! I just know there were voters in Michigan who, when they voted for “Uncommitted,” were thinking of me. And I know that some of the people who voted for Hillary meant to vote for me…after all, we ALL press the wrong buttons, don’t we? So I guess that means I get TWO delegates. :D

      When I get my next check, I’m sending some to Hillary to pay for her Denver trip! Rock and roll!

  • DixieChkn

    Bill Clinton: This could be the ‘last day’ (CNN.com)

    Don’t they wish?!?!?! ;)

    • Myshiba

      The last day of primary campaigning, that is!

  • Seymour Glass

    She has been saying since her interview with Greta Van Sustern 2 months ago that she would be going to the convention…

    she has said over and over – shes in it till theres a nominee – which wont happen till THE CONVENTION!

    tHE MEDIA ARE SOOOO FULL OF IT!

  • idreamofdenver

    go hillary ! and yes, dumb trolls, we will never vote for obama and you have alot to worry about. huge voting blocs will not vote for obummer. i heard geraldo rivera reporting from puerto rico that hispanics do not trust or like obama. lets see, hispanics make up about 10 % of the vote. and then there are no votes from women, seniors, catholics, jews, gun owners, joe lunch buckets, under educated people and people that just dont like that lying, racist sexist fraud, obama ! your boy is in big trouble no matter what happens…….no hillary, mccain all the way …..

  • BobO

    Hang in there Hillary, all the way to Denver. Be nice about it but absolutely DO NOT CONCEDE! While ARG is notoriously wrong, those numbers indicate something is happening, once again, in announced by the media “wins” for Obama (don’t ya love that)?

    • Dawnelle

      It started back in March (the wave)

    • blkmn(real) HRC supporter

      They got it RIGHT in WV and KY!!!!!!

  • jessie

    I don’t care if she endorses Obama Marxist I will never vote for him. I will not vote for him even if Hillary is on the ticket.

    I went to a McCain townhall today. My family has been straight ticket democrat for three generations.
    Obama/Marxist people were there and tried to disrupt the meeting – they got slammed and ejected.

    NICE TRY – you will never win this state.

    In November we will all vote McCain. We will get out of the party and register Ind. tomorrow.

    The new party does not want us because we are white working farmers. We will take our vote to McCain.

    Obama/Marxist move on down the electoral map because you will never take Tennessee.

    NO OBAMA/MARXIST
    HILLARY OR MCCAIN 2008

    THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY/NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY

    • fooj

      Little Lord Obama and his merry minions can’t resist crashing a party, can they? I’m glad they got “ejected”…the Repubs aren’t going to put up with their BS. They shouldn’t have to. Hillary shouldn’t have to, either.

      We must STAND FOR SOMETHING or we STAND FOR NOTHING!

      I will not compromise my PRINCIPLES! I will not unify behind a party of cheaters and liars who have shown us what the true definition of MORAL AND ETHICAL BANKRUPTCY is. I find it completely offensive and in full contradiction of AUTHENTIC Democratic principles and values.

      No…I will not line up at the edge of the cliff so that I can simply be pushed off because the “party leaders” have instructed its sheeple to do the deed. How in the hell can anyone with sound mind consider such an act a promotion of “Unity”???

      This weekend, the ENTIRE world saw that the Democratic Party is NO DIFFERENT than the Republican Party. Nice work, Dean and Brazille. You have done a spectacular job of LEVELING the “moral” playing field. I, for one, will not blindly follow “leaders” that clearly lack any semblance of a moral compass. I WILL NOT SELL MY SOUL. The expectation that any of us would do so is REPULSIVE on its face.

      Everyday I walk into my high school classroom and I encourage my students to honor their values and beliefs. I will not become a hypocrite in order to appease the crooked and corrupt elements within my own party. I may be the last woman standing but I REFUSE to model behavior that will compromise my integrity. The youth of America deserve better than this.

      Don’t tell me it’s a pile of rose petals when it’s a pile of horseshit.

      “…the power of believing in a PRINCIPLE.”- S. Corbett

    • TeakWoodKite

      What state Jesse? Tennesse?

      • jessie

        Yes, Tennessee. Since Tennessee will definitely go McCain, I will be going elsewhere to campaign against Obama/Marxist.

        My family in Ohio, Louisiana, Florida and Nevada will vote McCain in November.

        So, Obama/Marxist you will need 23 votes to cancel our votes out. Go ahead you may take the party but you will never take the country.

        We are proud farmers who will never give our country up to a Marxist. We are Americans first.

        NO OBAMA/MARXIST
        HILLARY OR MCCAIN 2008

        • thenana1

          Well, Jesse, here is another in the great state of Tennessee

          HILLARY OR MCCAIN 08

    • AC-n-NC

      THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY/NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY

      That is what I was thinking with all the militant black stuff at his “church”.

  • Babs

    I am so tired of Obama people putting up the argument that how can a Hillary supporter vote McCain when Hillary and McCain are so opposite in all their views. Don’t they get it? I actually like John McCain, have always admired his opposition to his own party if he thinks something is not good for this country, but the biggest thing of all, I would rather spend four more years with a man I trust as an American patriot than four more years with a man I do not trust, do not admire, and have nothing but contempt for.
    Hope that answers their question from one Hillary supporter.

    • libby

      McCain has always had my trust. He is a man of character.

      Obama is not but still our Hillary is better than all of them.

    • Obama_is_Weak

      Babs:

      Just tell them that you are voting strongly against Obama. Period.

      Let them figure it out.

      • AC-n-NC

        Good reply . Fits too.

    • Northwest rain

      Obami is absolutely UNFIT to be Commander in Chief.

      Both Clinton and McCain are far superior to snObama —

      The ONLY area that Obami is well prepared for is to take up GWB mantel as LIAR in Chief.

    • Hillaryormccain08

      I know that gets on my nerves because John McCain is an honorable man who unlike either Obama or his obamabots, have served in the Military. I know Obamabots that neither did Hillary but remember something dipwads Hillary was a female and unable to serve in combat duty. African American males have been serving in combat since the Civil war so what was his excuse oh yeah he had to smoke crack with Larry Sinclair

  • http://doublejointedfingers.blogspot.com/ Cyn NY

    God(ess) love her, she’s going to take this to Denver. Obama is fumbling, tiring and stamping his feet.

    Go, Hillary. You have millions of us behind you.

    • Dawnelle

      {{CYN}} good to see you!!! Great NEWS HUH?

      R U listening to LOU? He’s being so nice about Hillary. I think I may change my opinion of him. LOve his interlude music too! Very Gaelic.

  • The Real Hope

    Hillary is a woman of her word. She has told us all along she is in this to win. Go HILLARY!!

  • jessie

    Here is a link to a video – Do you get it now Howard Dean and Donna Brazile:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7VpkMmB9Mw

  • llamajockey

    LOU DOBBS WAS ASK ABOUT THE MICHELLE WHITEY TAPE ON HIS SHOW TODAY!!!

    Of course he would not comment and discounted the story which you expect any reputable mainstream journalist to do at this point. He asked the caller where she heard about the story. When told that she heard Geraldo Riveria and Roger Stone were discussing it on FNC. Lou laughed about the fact Geraldo and Stone were even mentioned. Lou Dobbs’s response was why should any one really care since Michelle Obama has already done enough to hurt Obama’s campaign.

    Still just getting this story out there could force the Obama campaign to have to make a statement concerning the alleged tape one way or another.

    Then if the Obama campaign denies the existance of the tape, they have really set themselves up for a fall if like Larry says the Republicans have ever intention of holding its release until the fall.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Heard that call too.

  • libby

    WOOWOOO! DON’T CONCEDE HILLARY!!!

    WE ARE BEHIND YOU 110%

    • roger, too

      It is so nice to be able to finally support a politician, free and clear.

      The more I see of her, the more convinced I am she is one of the only honest politicians in Congress.

      She would be the best thing to happen to this country, since her husband.

      And she is SO smart, brilliant, like a President should be…

      None of the others can touch her…

  • DixieChkn

    Carl, please go get your afternoon dose of Xanax or Paxil (or whatever the current fashion sedative is). IF she is going to eventually conceded, IT WILL NOT BE TOMORROW NIGHT OR THIS WEEK! While I want like hell for her to continue, she has other things to consider. And hey, maybe this is just an “I’ll suspend and wait” meeting so the core of her support doesn’t get a hernia while we watch the Obama and the DNC implode!!

    • Hillaryormccain08

      no no no a sedative isnt strong enough. They need antiPsychotic meds like Risperdal and Clozeril. Come to think of it they need to be in a place with staff incase they hurt themselves in their delisions.

  • Babs

    Even when she is in the public giving speeches, Michelle Obama has said some pretty controversial things, so why would you not believe that when she is in a more private setting, with friends instead of the public, that she might be prone to expound a little more freely on what she believes?

    I don’t know if there is a tape, but I have faith in Larry and his sources, so let’s all just wait and see what happens without criticizing each other, okay?

  • vinnie

    Floor fight in Denver!!! If not, go Independent…17 million of us will help you dismantle the spineless Democratic party!!! GO HILLARY, KICK THAT SKINNY GUY’S ASS!

  • wry

    Ok guys…not to make every one jealous, but I just listened in on a conference call with OMG Bill Clinton!!!
    I put him on speaker so my little boy could hear and he was so quiet and reverential.
    My hand was shaking. There’s nothing like hearing the President’s voice on your own phone.

    By the way…I’m calling South Dakota tonight. It’s looking GOOD. I was there in February and it was all about Obama. Now it’s Hillary or McCain. I’m getting some McCain I admit.
    I hope she takes this to Denver.

    • Adrienne Grey

      I was on that call too, and yes it was a rush. No hint of surrender in Bill’s voice. No way.

      *****A

      P.S. Carl, take your creepy fantasies somewhere else.

    • libby

      Yeah I’m getting McCain too but that is okay if Obama is the nominee.

      From my calls about 80% are backing Hillary. I just hope they are not saying that to then say “bye” and hang up the phone.

    • stodghie

      thanks! montana, i want it all!

  • tim

    I agree with the comments above..

    hillary or then mccain..

    I want someone competent in the WH..

  • Fandango13

    I’m a newspaper person. Every day i read two local generally good newspapers; I read the paper edition of the NYT, I keep up with the WSJ and USA Today; I check into online WaPo and LA Times. Every single day since last Fall they’ve all been telling me how Hillary is behind, last gasp,dropping out now, WWTSBQ, EVERY DAY (and weekends too).
    So I’ve said it before; I’ll say it again: I don’t know how I would get along if it weren’t for this blog and a few (a very few). Thanks again.
    No votes for Sportin’ Life.

  • POdVet

    HuffPo is such a rag anymore…she has writers on staff pretending to be pro Hillary, but you can tell by the super weak articles they submit that they are in for Obama. If you actually post FACTS with links to reputable sources on things that are pro Hillary or shed poor light on Obamessiah, your post is quickly scrubbed. But trolls pretending to be Hillary supporters can post outlandish BS to make it seem like all Clinton supporters are moronic racists. I do so hope that when Hillary gets to the White House, one of her first official acts is to deport miss Huffington :D

  • tim

    Mr. Johnson,

    I know this is on the other thread.. BUT I do believe you..and thank you for letting us know about this tape where MO has a racist rant

    I do believe you that there is a tape.. and I for one will not vote for someone who is “finally proud of their country for the first time as an adult” after 44 years..

    I only became a citizen a few years ago, and I WAS SO PROUD TO BECOME A CITIZEN OF THIS GREAT NATION the second I pledged allegiance to this great country

    AND I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER

    VOTE FOR SOMEONE LIKE THE OBAMAs WHO SEEM TO HATE THIS COUNTRY, THEY ARE FRIENDS WITH TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO BOMB THIS COUNTRY, ARE RACISTS.. I WILL NOT!!!!!

    I came to this country b/c I thought here each vote counts and each voice countes

    and I will not vote for that arrogant fraud!

    I will only vote for hillary or else mccain.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Tim regardless of what peaceful dreams you may follow as a new citizen know that I am proud to call a fellow citizen.

      Not because you do not wish to vote for BO, but because you can see what is at stake.
      Thank you for that.

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

    Woo hoo! Hillary does not give in to the whiny trolls, Obama, shitheads at the DNC and assholes in the MSM!

    Trolls bite me!

  • kat in your hat

    Hillary!!!! Stay and fight! You have more votes and neither one of you will finish with the delgate number without super pledges–and it doesn’t matter what any of them say if you take it to the convention and then by then anything can happen. Tons of Obama crap will be coming out.

    You have the better case. More blue dem states and purple swing states. You KEEP winning. You were outspent 4-1 sometimes (like in PA), and you win! Even all the media was against you, and the DNC elites, and the silly supers who came out to endorse Obama after you won THOSE states, and also the FL and MI fiasco, and how you got ripped off!

    We want YOU. So many people must have Obama buyer’s remorse after his CRAP came out, and he’s so awfully inexperienced.

    Hillary 08!

    • cc

      I wholeheartedly agree. STAY IN UNTIL AUGUST ! they’d never ask a man to quit who was so close. Hillary, you deserve your shot! We back you 100 percent!

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

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    Way to go bloggers! We did it! We helped Hillary to make it to the convention where she WILL defeat Obama!

    • roger, too

      Broccoli is the new popcorn.

      Very healthy.

    • Deep Truths

      Tonights special is: oh no she didn’t! best served cold

      • bonnie

        Oh here is just where Hillary gets warmed up… after relaxing from striding out round the country collecting thousand upon thousands of new “Hill-stars” she looks even more serene than when she first started.

        Right on Hillary take some time off Wednesday with bill & Chelsea a wonderful day relaxing a good hearty dinner….. “Ruth Chris” sounds wonderful. Served at home of course with your feet up……
        Go where 17 million plus strong riding the wave of excitement with u….

        P.S if Ruth Chris cannot help simply call, I will come and wait on you all hand and foot~

  • Randall

    Stay and fight this all the way to Denver. We are behind you 100%

  • katmandu

    To borrow from Mencken:

    Obama’s platform, like any other revealed religion, is largely made up of prophecies.

  • hillaryfighter

    Clinton needs to seriously consider a INDY run. She and her husband owe the democratic party NOTHInG. ZIP.

    The goal is to beat the anti-America, racist pig bamba, the current party hijacked by ultral liberal wimps and the MSM.

    I do not know whether Clinton can win as an INDY, but if she runs, Obamama will sure have NO chance in winning the white house in a three-way race.

    I don’t buy the 2012 argument. It is frankly NOW or NEVER.

    The only obstacle for an INDY run is money. I am pretty sure Clintons will have guts to resist any pressure of asking her not to run.

    She frankly could use Lieberman model.

  • JP

    GOD SAVE THE CLINTONS!!! I LOVE THE CLINTONS. Hillary 2008. If the superdelegates give this nomination to Obama and if Hillary doesn’t become an independent, then its McCain 2008. Never OBAMA, not ever.

  • artist
    • josgirl

      We, the Illinois Finance Committee, want to show our full commitment to and support for Senator Hillary Clinton, in the fight for her rightful appointment as the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee at the convention this August.

      We believe she is, by far, the best candidate of the three, and the candidate most able to turn the ailing economy around, solve the housing crisis, end the war in Iraq and defeat the terrorists in Afghanistan, bring universal healthcare to our citizens, and finally make our country energy independent.

      We also know she is the Democratic candidate best able to beat John McCain in the fall. One thing we are certain of is that the Republicans are good at winning elections. We, as Democrats, allowed them to win the last two contests, and we cannot afford to let that happen again.

      Senator Clinton is ahead in the popular vote, and neither candidate can secure the nomination with pledged delegates alone. The automatic delegates can change their mind up until their vote at the convention, and that is why this nominating process must be resolved in August, and no earlier.

      We Democrats will be united after our nomination process is completed, but only if that process is completed justly and in fair representation of the opinions of the members of our party. We believe nominating Hillary Clinton is the only way our party can guarantee victory in November.

      Note the ILLINOIS Finance Committee

  • hillaryfighter

    Do you guys remember that brave lady who stormed out of DNC meeting and whose video got almost 1 million hits on youtube?

    She got interviewed on foxnews. She’s very eloquent. She said it’s Hillary or McCain. She even excluded the possiblity of voting for an Obama/Clinton ticket.
    I am with her. I don’t think I can even vote for an Obama/Clinton ticket. It’s McCain or Hillary. Obama is a cheater, traitor, racist pig.

    Watch a clip of that brave lady’s interview on foxnews. It is simply terrific.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIIDtlFzAkg

    • beebop

      She rocked … Thanks for posting this!

    • cc

      Harriet was wonderful. What I can’t stomach is that Obama is a danger to this nation. He is racist. He sympathizes with terrorists.He raises money for radical extremist individuals and political organizations tied to terrorists. He is corrupt and a habitual LIAR. yet these obamatons, these clueless, naive dolts, keep denying the scary and ugly truth about BO and his true agenda. I will NEVER vote for such a despicable candidate. My heart is broken that a candidate like Hillary with such class and skill to really make a difference has had the nomination literally stolen from her.

  • Mel

    Tape or no tape, doesn’t matter in the least!

    What does matter is what is known of Obama already and the fine excuse of trolls who support his kind of vile politics!

    Wrap that with a do nothing candidate, who claims of his fine work as a community organizer, who again did nothing but advanced himself politically while people still suffered, but took credit for everything that was accomplished by others!

    Wrap around a candidate, who’s life has been surrounded and influenced by communists, some without choice and more that he sought out?

    Wrap around a candidate who instills racism at every turn to forward his own asperations while degrading others, Including the entire country with that fucking useless blame the country speech of March 18th, to save his worthless ass then quits the church instead of being a real man and going to that church and straightening that church out, leaving allows him to go back and he will, because that church is Obama’s beliefs!

    Wrap around someone who fucks middle class and gun toting, church loving people?

    Heres one for Obama, $300 million didn’t get you the nomination and $1 Billion won’t get you the White House because you are the scum of the earth and there are no caucuses in a GE for you to control and your ACORN friends won’t get away with stuffing ballot boxes nationally!

    Senator Obama one the one hand hope you make it to the GE, so your ass can be run out of politics forever, unfortunately, America needs a REAL leader right now, and Hillary is that leader, thus there might be salvation for Obama for another day, but there will never be a day Obama and his seething vile wife will ever reside in the WH!

    • fooj

      Amen! My sentiments EXACTLY!

    • AC-n-NC

      Well said Mel.

  • paul_lukasiak

    slightly off-topic….but we deserve some answers…

    ACTION ALERT–CALL ALICE GERMOND

    Alice Germond is Secretary of the DNC, and a member of the Rules and Bylaws Committee.

    She considers herself the guardian of the rules.

    Article 9, Section 12: of the Charter of the Democratic National Committee states: All meetings of…official party committees…shall be open to the public and votes shall not be taken by secret ballot.”

    On Saturday, a secret meeting was held, at which votes were taken.

    At the end of the morning session, a one hour lunch period was announced, and the afternoon session would commence after that lunch. Members of THE PUBLIC were told to return in one hour.

    THE PUBLIC, which had a right, under the charter to attend the meeting, showed up.

    The Rules and Bylaws committee did not. Alice Germond, who as all members of the RBC, had been told that the afternoon session would begin after the one hour lunch period, did not show up to perform her duties as Secretary of the Party. Neither co-chair showed up. None of the members showed up.

    The PUBLIC, which has the right to attend ALL meetings of the RNC, showed up.

    As co-chairs and party secretary, Roosevelt, Herman, had a responsibility to return to the meeting room and recovene the meeting at the time announced, and Germond had a responsibility to be there to record the procedings at the time announced. But they didn’t show up.

    Two hours after the scheduled time announced TO THE PUBLIC that the meeting would resume, James Roosevelt announced that “Members over lunch have reviewed the testimony and oral arguments that were made/given this morning and are ready to proceed to motions….”

    Mr. Roosevelt could not have known that the members were ready to procede unless a secret meeting had taken place, and a vote taken in secret.

    Alexis Herman then announced that the co-chairs had decided that 10 minutes was sufficient to air the questions regarding three resolutions — remember that only TWO challenges had been made, so A VOTE had to have been taken to limit the resolutions pursuant to the challenges.

    According to Germond, 10 minutes was sufficient to discuss all the issue because of the length of time spent in the morning session on questions, etc.

    When I asked Germond how it was possible that all necessary questions and discussion had been done in the morning, when it took three hours for HER to return from a one hour lunch break, she hung up on me.

    Now admittedly, I’m not Mr. Polite — Alice Germond is completely full of shit (she had the nerve to tell me that Dean and Pelosi were neutral… I think that was the point where I became contentious) — so I suggest that other people call Alice Germond, and ask her

    1) Why she did not return to the meeting as scheduled and announced at the end of the morning session.

    2) Why the co-chairs did not reconvene the meeting as announced TO THE PUBLIC as scheduled.

    3) Why a meeting OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, that THE PUBLIC had a right to attend, was not reconvened on schedule.

    4) Why discussion was allowed to continue IN PRIVATE by her for two hours after THE PUBLIC was told the meeting would be resumed.

    5) How, under the charter of the Democratic Party, a scheduled one hour lunch turns into a three hour discussion OF THE BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, business that UNDER THE CHARTER HAD TO BE DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC, does not constitute a “non-open meeting” which is prohibied under the charter.

    I suggest that you be polite — but also demand to know why SHE did not to return to the meeting as scheduled — because the time of the meeting reconvening had been announced TO THE PUBLIC, and absent a vote of some sort, it was her RESPONSIBILITY to be in attendance as the secretary of the party at the time the meeting was supposed to resume.

    Her phone number is 304 725 3293

    she told me before she hung up on me that she had to go to dinner, so if you do get an answering machine, keep trying every 15 minutes, because at some point she will get home and be available to answer your calls.

    (BTW, her husband is Village elder Jack Germond)

    • bonnie

      Paul may I post this in 2 other groups i am in please as they are very active making calls etc??

      • paul_lukasiak

        bonnie. of course you can post it.

        just make sure you include the “be polite” part ;)

        • bonnie

          ;) TY…. That is what I like about “Hillstars” we all work together for a better cause…

    • rjj

      Jack Germond said his poker playing buddy was a hell of a fine fellow and the country would be better off with him in office. He also said – this is almost a quote: “Time for the grownups to take charge.”

      So much for Germond judgment.

      • rjj

        The poker playing buddy referred to above was Dick Cheney. It was in 2000.

  • bonnie

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/02/obamas-ex-church-has-won-15m-in-federal-grant-money/

    Obama’s Ex-Church Has Won $15M in Federal Grant Money

    I am not a troll wonder where the money will come form next year when Hillary or McCain is voted in.
    They said they deserved this money for the years of oppression and slaery from yrs ago.

    Why do we seem to be going backwards?

    We need to move forward with someone with experience at the helm…

    • beebop

      It is an amazing story …. it could just make you gag to be honest!

  • warehouse553

    If the unthinkable happens and he is given the nomination, Hillary should let him have it.

    She can go through the motions of endorsing and campaigning for him knowing that her supporters won’t vote for him under any circumstances.

    Appear as though she’s he strongest advocate and when he loses because of his racist church, she can say “I told you so”.

    As a supporter, I want her to protect herself for 2012. She has the popular vote and we know she’s been robbed!

    He’s unelectable!

    • cc

      I don’t want to wait for 2012. this is Hillary’s year. bo doesn’t deserve to be selected dem nominee. we still have time to make this election right.

  • destardi

    Your Name: Patricia Deronty

    Your Email: XXX@gmail.com

    Subject: credentials

    Message: Hey bitch.

    Just so you know, there is a petition that is starting to go around the net, that is going to ask the DNC to revoke your credentials to the convention. We screen grabed your front page where you are pushing right wing rumors about Michele Obama and a whitey tape. We don’t want wingnuts masquerading as Democrats, as a blogger with credentials. We plan on getting 100,000 signatures at least to make sure your disgusting ass is not allowed at our convention. Just like Hillary lost bet on it, we will make sure you are not allowed in our convention to smear our nom.

    ———————————–

    Sent to Taylor Marsh.

    How nice those obamapods are, huh? Trying to silence opposing viewpoints?

    HOW BUSHLIKE!

    This “patricia” person is one low class, nonthinking moron.

    • rjj

      Probably one of Obama’s Young Republican “helpers.”

  • Lou Dobbs

    Lou Dobbs was great tonight. He told Zimmerman his candidate should go to the credentials committee. Lou called out Katz for whining that there was no money for re-votes.

    It was good stuff.

    Question: I registered. How long does it take to get a e-mail password back?

  • Hillary’s Pal

    Put on some soft music, fix yourself an appropriate beverage, tie yourself in your chair and call Montana and South Dakota. You will love yourself in the morning.

  • street_parade

    Pledged delegate count:
    Obama – 1739 or truly 1735(subtracting 4 taken from Clinton)
    Clinton – 1624 or truly 1628 (adding the 4 given to Obama as a present)
    Needed to win – 2118

    Super delegates will decide the nominee. On June 2 a super delegate is an endorser NOT a pledged delegate. If either of them had 2118 PLEDGED delegates it would be over. Neither does, so its not. It’s a long summer and, as Father ‘America is the greatest sin against God’ Phlegm shows oh so well, time has never been Obama’s friend.

  • michelle

    Fellow NQers:
    I cannot fully believe that poll number. Why would that much change happen? Is this an obama tactic? Like: Whoa, Clinton was supposed to win according to the polls, but I still won SD.
    Is anyone else thinking SD will still go to Obama?
    I will say though: HRC did a standup job campaigning in SD. Her time spent with the Native American community was really important, she really laid out what a Clinton presidency would do for them.

    So, she might pull out a win.
    Montana? No hope. The whole pacific nw region (montana is close to WA and OR) is very anti-woman.
    Fuckers.

  • Uppity

    Barky can’t close the deal by himself. He needs Mommy to shove his butt over the finish line. I mean they even gave him delegates of voters who didn’t vote for him. They even gave him delegates that belonged to clinton. They even prevaricated who “might” have voted for him if they “Had” voted. And still he can’t close his own deal.

    In a GE, there’s no SNC pulling delegates out of their asses. Try stealing delegates from McCain and see how well that works out.

    What’s up with Why’d????

  • Terry

    I think an Indy run may be her only alternative; however, I’m just not sure that she will do it. She’s been a Dem for so long that I fear that she has misplaced loyalties. I hope she awakes to the fact that this Dem party is not the party of our fathers, mothers, or even the party of her husband. It is the party of the likes of Dean, Pelosi, Brazille, and every other far leftest on the planet.

    I was watching Carl Rove tonight on one of the Fox shows and he made the comment that it made no sense whatsoever what Obama did this past Saturday. He not only took the Uncommitted delegates but also took part of her own delegates. He said it was like poking her in the eye and then proclaiming that we’re all working toward unity. I agree with him on this point (almost the only point I’ve ever agreed with him on). Obama should not have even sought the Uncommitted delegates for himself, much less go after hers. He is selfish and arrogant beyond reason–with the superdelegates remaining he would still have easily gone over the final number without stealing delegates.

    By the way, if I can’t vote for Hillary in the fall–I will vote for McCain. The Pfleger incident and Obamas lack of an apology to Hillary afterward pushed me from a “stay at home” position in the fall to a pro-McCain position.

  • gqmartinez

    She may be dropping out. But it could also mean that she intends to roll out a slew of Super-D endorsements including Al Gore. There are a lot of ways to interpret that.

  • Myshiba

    Did’t you bother to read the headline for this thread before typing your comment?

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  • Dawnelle

    Go back to Hell dark minion!

    No one wants your lighter fluid!

  • NY still loves Hillary

    Let’s see – she didn’t quit after Iowa when everyone said she was toast. She didn’t quit after SC when Barky World said she was toast. She didn’t quit after Super Tuesday when the MSMbots said she was toast. And then she went on to kick his criminal a** in virtually every state since then. She just mopped the floor with him in Puerto Rico. Every Troll in the e-world is out today trying to crash servers to stop stories about the “whitey” video. Oh, and we’re about to see the indictment list from the Rezko trial.

    Yeah, she’s gonna quit alright. Sweatin much now, Troll?

  • Myshiba

    If you like the “incompetent one” . ..go ahead and continue your love fest with obama; the adults are going to stick by Hillary or vote for McCain (one or the other). I repeat, no one else is competent or qualified! Do you get it yet?

  • NY still loves Hillary

    Let’s see – she didn’t quit after Iowa when everyone said she was toast. She didn’t quit after SC when Barky World said she was toast. She didn’t quit after Super Tuesday when the MSMbots said she was toast. And then she went on to kick his criminal a** in virtually every state since then. She just mopped the floor with him in Puerto Rico. Every Troll in the e-world is out today trying to crash servers to stop stories about the “whitey” video. Oh, and we’re about to see the indictment list from the Rezko trial.

    Obama, on the other hand, quit being friends with Tony Rezko, quit being “like family” with Jeremiah Wright, quit palin’ around with Rev. Pfleger, quit his beloved TUCC. Hmmm, who’s the quitter here?

    Sweatin much now, Troll?

  • Skip

    The reality is she cannot attack a Dem opponent in the primaries the way she can attack a Rep in the GE because she needs to avoid doing what he has in fact done. Obamabots go on about how she trashes him as though she actually had. Even in several states that she won, exit polls showed that a majority of people thought she had attacked Obama unfairly. She has proven her fighting spirit in the face of relentless attacks, with dignity, which is more than can be said of her opponent, and that’s why he’ll lose.

  • The Real Hope

    Carl you need a job. Get off your pitiful ass and do something with your useless life. Jesus!

  • Hillaryormccain08

    I can hear President Hillary Clinton saying to her valet Barrack Obama to get her clothes ready for her long day at the office. He is not really qualified for that position but she felt sorry for him since he has lost everything and because he threw all his loved ones under the bus to get elected of course we know what happened to that guy well his wife made a comment about Whitey and forgot that Whitey is the Majority in this Country.

  • so saddened

    carl, the one going the way of those losers is obambi.

  • stodghie

    fuxx off!

  • NY still loves Hillary

    Don’t you have a bridge you’re supposed to be under?

  • fooj

    Quit posting Huffington Post’s “wet dreams” here. I’m not interested in their fantasy world.

  • Obama_is_Weak

    Noone here clicks on Trash Recycling Sites such as the orange on or the one owned by Queen Snake. So don’t bother.

  • libby

    The tape exists. Just at the right time it will be released.

  • wry

    What does this mean?

  • Ulahane
  • Northwest rain

    You are a SICK person — go back to your porn –

    You Obamabots are just plain garbage.

    I happen to have respect for President Clinton.

    What is it with you Obamabots — tearing down the only two term Democratic President since FDR?

    Thank you for re-enforcing my decision to NEVER EVER vote for Obama.

  • roger, too

    NO, that’s a republican troll thing, you know “operation chaos.”

    Is it chaos yet, “carl?”

    And wry, I think Bill Clinton is one of the most brilliant men we have ever had, as a leader.

    Clinton, and JFK.

  • beebop

    No … but you probably are right now … Mom and Dad are at the grocery store …. ;P

  • bonnie

    No that was u we saw u through the looking glass u were so into yourself and your follower with hate and over drive u needed to scratch and play right? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

    Is this what all YOU followers are like after a few swigs of kool aid?

    Looks like some need to go back to school maybe there is on in Indonesia that can help u?

  • roger, too

    It means essentially, ” I am a talentless troll, who tries really hard, but gets laughed at none the less. And I have no clue what is happening, despite my grand pretensions. I also own a telephone.”

    I believe that was also an Emerson, Lake and Palmer song ” The Grand Pretension.”

    Or maybe it was an Emerson poem, I forget…

  • beebop

    My God … her quitting would clear out their website. They have nothing else going for them but their rabid hatred of her. That place will clear out like a steam room that spots a guy with a crotch itch!

  • Hillaryormccain08

    ewww see they are such perverts. They think everyone is a perv like they are. Good Lord what kind of people does that man attract.