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		<title>By: Donald Trump Scores and Important Victory . . . Against the Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Trump Scores and Important Victory . . . Against the Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 02:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his world view, remain subjects of speculation. Former CIA officer Larry Johnson, for example, believes that the full birth record from the State of Hawaii was probably amended in 1968 to show Obama was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Donald Trump Scores and Important Victory . . . Against the Media &#124; Free Articles Directory, Article Submission - IMFreakz.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] subjects &#111;&#102; speculation. Former CIA officer Larry Johnson, &#102;&#111;&#114; example, believes &#116;&#104;&#097;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101; full birth record &#102;&#114;&#111;&#109; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jecolon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jecolon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 20:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a deceitful man, Larry. You are a flip flop. What did Hillary paid you to shut up about the BC? Is that why you haven&#039;t spoken of it for two years? Your golden girl is going to be in the headlines soon. And it won&#039;t be in the trail- it will be in front of Congress. Obama was NOT born here. So continue your deceit for at the end, you will be another one that will look like a liberal idiot to most of us who ONCE had respect for you. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a deceitful man, Larry. You are a flip flop. What did Hillary paid you to shut up about the BC? Is that why you haven&#8217;t spoken of it for two years? Your golden girl is going to be in the headlines soon. And it won&#8217;t be in the trail- it will be in front of Congress. Obama was NOT born here. So continue your deceit for at the end, you will be another one that will look like a liberal idiot to most of us who ONCE had respect for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Soetoro aka; obama : Who Is He That Enraged An Islamic Crowd Who Latter Committed Genocide Against Christians? &#171; Political Ape</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Soetoro aka; obama : Who Is He That Enraged An Islamic Crowd Who Latter Committed Genocide Against Christians? &#171; Political Ape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] speculation out there from the former CIA officer Larry Johnson — who is no right-winger and is convinced the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: goldengrahme</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, viking, your observation is the crux of the issue, IMO.

A million dollars in legal fees were spent to keep BOs past under the radar.&#160; This fraud is so huge, it strikes at the foundation of
Constitutional law.&#160; But after the graft &amp; corruption of the Bushistas,
the American people were tired and willing to sip the Kool Aid while
singing, &quot;Happy Days Are Here Again.&quot;&#160; Group psychology administered by clever mind manipulators.

Also, there is a big question of Obama&#039;s draft records; seems they were also fudged to meet with image necessities.&#160;

And the more I think about it, the more I am convinced that the Henry Louis Gates incident was staged.&#160; The big &quot;teaching moment&quot; dramaturgy bit seemed more like a skit inspired for freshman dorm consumption.

If memory serves, Gates had spent his summer vacation on
the upscale isle of Martha&#039;s Vineyard.&#160; Wonder if the plot was hatched during that time.&#160; Methinks he did indeed protest too much.&#160; The
whole thing was silly to the max. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, viking, your observation is the crux of the issue, IMO.</p>
<p>A million dollars in legal fees were spent to keep BOs past under the radar.&nbsp; This fraud is so huge, it strikes at the foundation of<br />
Constitutional law.&nbsp; But after the graft &amp; corruption of the Bushistas,<br />
the American people were tired and willing to sip the Kool Aid while<br />
singing, &#8220;Happy Days Are Here Again.&#8221;&nbsp; Group psychology administered by clever mind manipulators.</p>
<p>Also, there is a big question of Obama&#8217;s draft records; seems they were also fudged to meet with image necessities.&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the more I think about it, the more I am convinced that the Henry Louis Gates incident was staged.&nbsp; The big &#8220;teaching moment&#8221; dramaturgy bit seemed more like a skit inspired for freshman dorm consumption.</p>
<p>If memory serves, Gates had spent his summer vacation on<br />
the upscale isle of Martha&#8217;s Vineyard.&nbsp; Wonder if the plot was hatched during that time.&nbsp; Methinks he did indeed protest too much.&nbsp; The<br />
whole thing was silly to the max.</p>
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		<title>By: paxEscall</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everyone!</p>
<p>My name is Jordan, I just wanted to introduce myself since I am new to this site&#8230;</p>
<p>I am a newbie to the internet but I am learning alot real fast!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Hair-boiler Operator and devoted father.</p>
<p>The things I like most in life are family, friends and football.</p>
<p>On week days you&#8217;ll usually find me riding my bike. On the weekends I like to party and watch football.</p>
<p>My idea of the perfect day would start with breakfast. And then I&#8217;d go to the park. Later I&#8217;d eat a great dinner from TGI Fridays. And I&#8217;d top it all off by snuggling with my lover.</p>
<p>I also love hip hop videos.</p>
<p>Anyways it&#8217;s great to be a part of your site!</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Andy McCarthy, just askin&#8217; questions &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy McCarthy, just askin&#8217; questions &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] McCarthy (which, to the best of my knowledge, has never been retracted or even amended): There’s speculation out there from the former CIA officer Larry Johnson — who is no right-winger and is convinced the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ladysforest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ladysforest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are entirely wrong.  They can&#039;t release it to anyone without a tangible interest.  He (obama) himself can obtain and present the long form BC.  It would be wonderful if some of you in denial would check out the actual facts instead of blindly believing in what some flunky self proclaimed reporter &quot;writes&quot; in an ill conceived attempt to gain favor with this white house.
The facts, the laws, and the sources are plastered all over the internet now.  Now go forth and educate yourself, you will be stunned.
BTW.
This is one of the best threads I have run across, and has excellent and correct information for the most part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are entirely wrong.  They can&#8217;t release it to anyone without a tangible interest.  He (obama) himself can obtain and present the long form BC.  It would be wonderful if some of you in denial would check out the actual facts instead of blindly believing in what some flunky self proclaimed reporter &#8220;writes&#8221; in an ill conceived attempt to gain favor with this white house.<br />
The facts, the laws, and the sources are plastered all over the internet now.  Now go forth and educate yourself, you will be stunned.<br />
BTW.<br />
This is one of the best threads I have run across, and has excellent and correct information for the most part.</p>
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		<title>By: birth certificate record</title>
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		<dc:creator>birth certificate record</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;birth certificate record...&lt;/strong&gt;

I would like to subscribe to this blog - The Agitator &quot; Blog Archive &quot; Why the Obama Birthers Are Right. How to go about doing it?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>birth certificate record&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I would like to subscribe to this blog &#8211; The Agitator &#8221; Blog Archive &#8221; Why the Obama Birthers Are Right. How to go about doing it?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution

&quot;No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President&quot;

You don&#039;t have to be a natural born citizen to be president. Just being a citizen to the us is enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution</p>
<p>&#8220;No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President&#8221;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to be a natural born citizen to be president. Just being a citizen to the us is enough.</p>
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		<title>By: David Becher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Becher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As said here 
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/03/02/james-c-ho-birthright-citizenship-the-14th-amendment-and-state-authority/#comment-2149here and by Akhil Reed Amar in &quot;The Constitution&quot; it is the 14th amendment that is important.  It incorporates both citizenship and requirements for being President of the United States. Obama, even if he was born in the United States does not pass the &quot;jurisdiction&quot; requirement of the 14th amendment, because he had de facto British/colony citizenship when he was born which disallows meeting Natural Born citizen test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As said here<br />
<a href="http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/03/02/james-c-ho-birthright-citizenship-the-14th-amendment-and-state-authority/#comment-2149here" rel="nofollow">http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/03/02/james-c-ho-birthright-citizenship-the-14th-amendment-and-state-authority/#comment-2149here</a> and by Akhil Reed Amar in &#8220;The Constitution&#8221; it is the 14th amendment that is important.  It incorporates both citizenship and requirements for being President of the United States. Obama, even if he was born in the United States does not pass the &#8220;jurisdiction&#8221; requirement of the 14th amendment, because he had de facto British/colony citizenship when he was born which disallows meeting Natural Born citizen test.</p>
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		<title>By: David Becher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Becher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under the 14th amendment of the US Constitution a child born on American soil is a US citizen regardless of parentage … So Barry Jr. could have had a US citizenship by birth right… and he would have had British and Kenyan citizenships even though he may not havec held a passport.  The tricky part in Obama’s case … which I have not seen discussed anywhere … 

Section 1 of the 14th amendment (… the relevant part) says: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Akhil Reed Amar (constitutional law scholar at Yale Law School) in “America’s Constitution, a Biography,” says the 14th Amendment followed by several months the Civil Rights Act of 1866, enacted following the Civil War.  The Civil Rights Act of 1866 overturned the 1857 Supreme Court ruling under Chief Justice Roger Taney on Dred Scott.  The language in the Civil Rights Act of 1866 re birthright citizenship is almost identical, “all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.”  

The 14th Amendment provides the unambiguous constitutional legal expression of the Civil Rights Act of 1866.  It excludes persons under the jurisdiction of another jurisdiction, including children of a foreign parent under the jurisdiction of another country, and tribal Indians. The intent of the jurisdiction clause was meant to prevent infiltration of the U.S. government by foreign influence.  Barack Sr. was nominated by the Kenyan government to visit American to attend college. The reason for not wanting offspring of foreign diplomats as defined under the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the 14th Amendment was to guard against the lingering fear of foreign countries especially Euros and especially Brits gaining control. 

The US allows dual citizenships under some circumstances, but if a child is born with dual citizenship it is born under dual jurisdiction of the two countries which disallows a Natural Born citizenship.  This is a fundamental difference which (for election of President and Vice President), the authors of the 14th amendment clearly recognized.

Under Part II of the British Nationality Law 1948, Barack Obama Jr. was born a citizen of the United Kingdom by descent because his father was a citizen of the United Kingdom.

Sec 5.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth:

If Obama Sr. became a naturalized citizen of the United States then this wouldn’t be an issue.

People are failing to recognize the difference between a US citizen and a Natural Born citizen. There is a difference. If there weren’t a difference then the Framers of our Constitution would not have used the exact words they used. They / the document was not meant to be repetitive/redundant, and all of the have explicit intent.

The 14th amendment incorporates but is not limited to Article II. 
 
Obama as born with multiple citizenship rights, and therefore was subject to jurisdiction and loyalties to multiple governments therefore he was not / is  not a “natural born citizen.” 

It doesn’t matter where he was born.

Upon birth, Barack Obama Jr. was subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom and perhaps Kenya via his father. He is not a Natural Citizen and therefore unqualified to be elected / serve as President of the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under the 14th amendment of the US Constitution a child born on American soil is a US citizen regardless of parentage … So Barry Jr. could have had a US citizenship by birth right… and he would have had British and Kenyan citizenships even though he may not havec held a passport.  The tricky part in Obama’s case … which I have not seen discussed anywhere … </p>
<p>Section 1 of the 14th amendment (… the relevant part) says: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”</p>
<p>Akhil Reed Amar (constitutional law scholar at Yale Law School) in “America’s Constitution, a Biography,” says the 14th Amendment followed by several months the Civil Rights Act of 1866, enacted following the Civil War.  The Civil Rights Act of 1866 overturned the 1857 Supreme Court ruling under Chief Justice Roger Taney on Dred Scott.  The language in the Civil Rights Act of 1866 re birthright citizenship is almost identical, “all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.”  </p>
<p>The 14th Amendment provides the unambiguous constitutional legal expression of the Civil Rights Act of 1866.  It excludes persons under the jurisdiction of another jurisdiction, including children of a foreign parent under the jurisdiction of another country, and tribal Indians. The intent of the jurisdiction clause was meant to prevent infiltration of the U.S. government by foreign influence.  Barack Sr. was nominated by the Kenyan government to visit American to attend college. The reason for not wanting offspring of foreign diplomats as defined under the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the 14th Amendment was to guard against the lingering fear of foreign countries especially Euros and especially Brits gaining control. </p>
<p>The US allows dual citizenships under some circumstances, but if a child is born with dual citizenship it is born under dual jurisdiction of the two countries which disallows a Natural Born citizenship.  This is a fundamental difference which (for election of President and Vice President), the authors of the 14th amendment clearly recognized.</p>
<p>Under Part II of the British Nationality Law 1948, Barack Obama Jr. was born a citizen of the United Kingdom by descent because his father was a citizen of the United Kingdom.</p>
<p>Sec 5.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth:</p>
<p>If Obama Sr. became a naturalized citizen of the United States then this wouldn’t be an issue.</p>
<p>People are failing to recognize the difference between a US citizen and a Natural Born citizen. There is a difference. If there weren’t a difference then the Framers of our Constitution would not have used the exact words they used. They / the document was not meant to be repetitive/redundant, and all of the have explicit intent.</p>
<p>The 14th amendment incorporates but is not limited to Article II. </p>
<p>Obama as born with multiple citizenship rights, and therefore was subject to jurisdiction and loyalties to multiple governments therefore he was not / is  not a “natural born citizen.” </p>
<p>It doesn’t matter where he was born.</p>
<p>Upon birth, Barack Obama Jr. was subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom and perhaps Kenya via his father. He is not a Natural Citizen and therefore unqualified to be elected / serve as President of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric_Stanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric_Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The endless debate on this topic, and the strident personal attacks from the left on those who are simply requesting routine and readily produced proof (if in fact Mr. Obama has the hospital certificate on file he claims to have) should motivate those on both sides to simply ask for that which would resolve the question one way or the other:  A certificed copy of the birth certificate on file in Hawaii.

One can very quickly find out from the Internet what a hospital-issued birth certificate from Hawaii looked like in 1961.  That document has all the details necessary to quickly confirm its authenticity and lay this matter to rest.

There is a tremendous amount of confusion here, some deliberately spread by folks trying to make this go away without said disclosure.  First, a Certification of Live Birth is not a long form hospital birth certificate.  In fact, such a certification would result from a delayed filing of birth, a procedure in 1961 which some folks used to get birth certificates for non-Hawaiian births.

The skeptical should notice that the hospital has refused to confirm the alleged birth there and that Hawaii has steadfastly refused to disclose what form of vault copy they have and they sure aren&#039;t going to admit that folks not born there could get those delayed filings approved with little verification other than proof of residency for one year.

Anyone who look&#039;s at this individuals rather unique history, including adoption by a foreign national of a country that does not recognize dual citizenship (Indonesia), potential eyewitness reports of his birth in Kenya with no offsetting similar reports from Hawaii, his obvious travel to Pakistan when it was banned by the U.S. which means he was traveling on a foreign passport, possibly as a foreign national.

And then there&#039;s those concealed college admission records that would show under which nationality Mr. Obama applied to college.

Add it all up, and there&#039;s sufficient reasonable doubt here such that asking Mr. Obama to simply disclose that which he claims to have, is hardly unreasonable or wacky.

So let&#039;s see that hospital birth certificate you claim to have, Mr. Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The endless debate on this topic, and the strident personal attacks from the left on those who are simply requesting routine and readily produced proof (if in fact Mr. Obama has the hospital certificate on file he claims to have) should motivate those on both sides to simply ask for that which would resolve the question one way or the other:  A certificed copy of the birth certificate on file in Hawaii.</p>
<p>One can very quickly find out from the Internet what a hospital-issued birth certificate from Hawaii looked like in 1961.  That document has all the details necessary to quickly confirm its authenticity and lay this matter to rest.</p>
<p>There is a tremendous amount of confusion here, some deliberately spread by folks trying to make this go away without said disclosure.  First, a Certification of Live Birth is not a long form hospital birth certificate.  In fact, such a certification would result from a delayed filing of birth, a procedure in 1961 which some folks used to get birth certificates for non-Hawaiian births.</p>
<p>The skeptical should notice that the hospital has refused to confirm the alleged birth there and that Hawaii has steadfastly refused to disclose what form of vault copy they have and they sure aren&#8217;t going to admit that folks not born there could get those delayed filings approved with little verification other than proof of residency for one year.</p>
<p>Anyone who look&#8217;s at this individuals rather unique history, including adoption by a foreign national of a country that does not recognize dual citizenship (Indonesia), potential eyewitness reports of his birth in Kenya with no offsetting similar reports from Hawaii, his obvious travel to Pakistan when it was banned by the U.S. which means he was traveling on a foreign passport, possibly as a foreign national.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s those concealed college admission records that would show under which nationality Mr. Obama applied to college.</p>
<p>Add it all up, and there&#8217;s sufficient reasonable doubt here such that asking Mr. Obama to simply disclose that which he claims to have, is hardly unreasonable or wacky.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s see that hospital birth certificate you claim to have, Mr. Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: jcsjcm</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29008/2nd-posting-the-obama-birth-certificate-controversy/#comment-1238213</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has also been stated when he signed his bar exam papers that they ask if you have used any other alias and he signed this as an absolute NO.  Why is no one investigating the fact that he lied on his bar exam - wouldn&#039;t that be considered a felony or fraudulent activity or just really wrong.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has also been stated when he signed his bar exam papers that they ask if you have used any other alias and he signed this as an absolute NO.  Why is no one investigating the fact that he lied on his bar exam &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t that be considered a felony or fraudulent activity or just really wrong.  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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