Current Article

gates-gate: the tale of the actual tapes [update]

By American Girl in Italy on July 27, 2009 at 1:41 PM in Sara in Italy

The 911 call and radio dispatch tapes were released. The 911 call reveals that the *racist neighbor* that everyone attacked is anything but. (In fact, I do believe it is the 911 operator that asks if they are white, black, or Hispanic..?)

This also supports Crowley’s statements that he wanted to be sure Gates was one of the men seen *breaking in* and that there weren’t two men hiding in the home somewhere. Which is why he asked Gates if anyone was in the house with him.

UPDATE:
There is a longer video from msnbc. In the original video I ad posted, you hear Crowley making two statements, quite calmly. You can, at one point hear Gates yell something in the background. Crowley says, “he’s not being very cooperative” at one point. And “The gentlemen says he resides here.” In this longer video you can hear Gates yell a few more times, in the background.

Visit msnbc.com for Breaking News, World News, and News about the Economy

Apparently his laryngitis wasn’t that bad… I wonder if Gates didn’t lose his voice until the following day, after all that yellin’!

I think everything so far supports Sgt. Crowley, and the other officers.

I am quite happy that the woman who called 911 has been MORE than vindicated.

SO, when are the apologies going to start rolling in?

“As always, whitey now sits in judgment of me, preparing to cast my fate.“
~Henry Louis Gates Jr.

——————————

UPDATE: Apparently, the woman who made the 911 call has had to hire an attorney to be her spokesperson. So much for the rewards of being a good citizen. CNN reports on the attorney’s important clarifications in “911 caller in Gates’ arrest says she never referred to race“:

(CNN) — The woman who made the 911 call that led to the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. never referred to race when she contacted authorities for what she thought was a potential break-in, her attorney told CNN on Monday.

Attorney Wendy Murphy also categorically rejected part of the police report that said her client, Lucia Whalen, talked with Sgt. James Crowley, the arresting officer, at the scene.

“Let me be clear: She never had a conversation with Sgt. Crowley at the scene,” Murphy said. “And she never said to any police officer or to anybody ‘two black men.’ She never used the word ‘black.’ Period.”

[...] “Her only goal is to make it clear she never described them as black. She never saw their race. … All she reported was behavior, not skin color.”

[...]

Murphy also disputed accounts of her client as a white woman in the traditional sense. “The fact is she’s olive-skinned and of Portuguese descent. You wouldn’t look at her and say necessarily, ‘Oh, there’s a white woman.’ You might think she was Hispanic,” Murphy said.

politicsisdirty

Bottom line….who are the racist now? Who uses racial profiling to his advantage?
Shameful isn’t it?

olivia1998

I think Obama was listening on Sunday mornings as he sat in Rev Wright’s church.

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

Maybe Henry “Skip” Gates’ new nickname should be CHIP in honor of the big one sitting on his shoulder.

Or how about Flip as in out.

http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

HAHA
bho boo

Tawana Chip Gates

hokma

Ironically, you haven’t heard from the Reverand Al. But he was interviewed and simply said that Obama is obviously not post-racial.

bart

Sharpton said BO wasn’t “post-racial?” Now that’s interesting. . .

http://noquarter foxyladi14

i.m surprised at that.

tzada

and it’s been there a long time….

he wrote in his Yale application:

“As always, whitey now sits in judgment of me, preparing to cast my fate. It is your decision either to let me blow with the wind as a nonentity or to encourage the development of self. Allow me to prove myself.”

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=104&pid=0&sid=1725138&page=2

http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

i believe i quoted that in my post…

tzada

sorry yes you did on reading again. sometimes speed reading, and multitasking rises up and bites me in the backside.

http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

;O)

Pennsylvania Red

I hadn’t known Whitey Herzog was on the Yale admissions board.

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

LOL!!! The best.

J.J. (The PUMA)

Another racist mis-quote. Gates did not say “whitey”, he said “why’d he”.

http://noquarter foxyladi14

gee just like her..lol..

Ferd Berfle

He has three chips. The two on his shoulders representing entitlement and elitism and the third is lodged somewhere in that otherwise empty skull.
tzada

Impersonating a Victim

This past March 29th, Professor Henry Louis Gates was being interviewed in front of a small group by Walter Isaacson on C-SPAN’s Book TV. Thirty-three minutes into the discussion about his new book on Lincoln, Professor Gates began a detailed account of his own genealogy. He said that in doing so he had discovered he was about “50% white”. He said that this was quote, “To my astonishment and horror…”.

He continued by saying that he had subsequently sent his DNA off to be tested. This time, upon finding out he was “57% white”, he said again, “to my horror …. I was becoming more white by the minute”. To this Gates, Isaacson and everyone else there chuckled.

Something tells me that if Mr. Isaacson had said that he also had sent his DNA off and found that to his “astonishment and horror” he was 57% black, no one would chuckle, least of all the Professor of African American Studies at Harvard, Dr. Gates.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/impersonating_a_victim.html

avwrobel

Talk about a story with legs! This is going to (is) igniting a backlash against Obambi and his sycophant supporters who use race to their advantage.

sandi78

I said it before, the only person doing any racial profiling was Gates.

Apologies? That was a joke, right? I’m not going to hold my breath.

lorac

I’m kind of sorry they’re all making a big deal out of the fact that she never identified their color – it suggests the opposite would have been racist. She identified them as being human, and she identified them as being male – is she being sexist?

If she had been able to clearly see them and could see that they were black, then saying they were black wouldn’t be racist or profiling, it would be IDENTIFICATION.
elizabethrc

I heard Gibbs last night speaking about the incident, Obama’s part in it specifically, and I almost gagged whenI listened to Gibbs try to get the word ‘sorry’ out’, when he attempting to explain what Obama had said to correct the situation. Gibbs simply could not say the word and stumbled around until he came out with something less meaningful. That whole White House crew will not take the blame for any of their actions. Their credibility is completely gone with me and going with thousands of those who voted for him and millions who didn’t vote for him. He deserves it.

elise

White House press is the biggest (not amusing) joke I’ve ever seen. They had a long serious conversation with Gibbs about what lable beer would be served at this post-racial, racist get together at the White House which will end with smiles and joviality and the “learning moment” will be lost on the press as Sgt Crowley walks away wondering what happened to the apologies he deserved from these two arrogant jerks.

I was so sorry to hear Crowley agreed to attend. It will be worked for all it’s worth and, in the end, it will still be presented as the problem with racial profiling. The lie will be believed by most Americans and the show will go on.

If Gates said what was reported on Gretta’s show tonight, the remark involved sexual violence against Crowley’s mother and no mention will be made about sexism.

FranSC

You are so right, elise – the beerfest will give all the appearances of a victorious B0 and his jerk of a friend, Gates, while Crowley will be used as an example of racial profiling brought under control by no less than the two racists claiming victory.

However, Crowley had no choice but to accept the invitation or look like a sore ‘racial profiler’. I think the Cambridge committee announced yesterday to look into this matter as well as to come up with ways to avoid this situation in the future went a long way in defusing any attempts at a victory celebration the WH had in mind for Thursdays beerfest. Had the committee idea not been put in place, the WH would have sucked the blood out of this on WH turf.

texaslatina

my grandfather was 1/2 cherokee and was refused to allow to enter a restaurant and told he could go to the back of the restaurant to get scraps! and not once, not once did i ever hear him talk ill about white people or any race. he loved everyone. i actually feel sorry for white people now, it’s total reverse discrimination now. this is all shameful.
ahs

So that was Gates “yelling” in the background of the first dispatch call? Huh. “Yelling”? Really?

http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

um, i believe i said you can hear him yell something in the background. and yes you can.

are you always this pleasant of a person?

ahs

My apologies, I just think “yelling” is a pretty strong word for what’s audible on the tape. What I hear is Gates firmly saying “I want your name,” but by no means is he shouting.

Just a friendly tweak.

http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

i heard him yell something. i didn’t hear him yelling. the tape was too short.

who uses the term *firmly stating*? haha

apology accepted. :O)

ahs

Heh. When one criticizes terms, it’s important to suggest replacing them with more precise terms. I hear Gates speaking emphatically, but short of yelling, ergo “firmly stating.”

lorac

Ah…. “calibrating” ones words….

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

I think one would find a definition of yell or yelling before there would be a definition of “firmly stating”.

Subjective whining in order to prop up self esteem is the work of a neophyte. It is irrelevant.
Obama: Dubya’ 2 Electric Boogaloo

WARM(What AHS Really Meant….)

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

The Fed. judge on FOX described Gates’ tone and delivery as “screaming”.

ahs

Do you think that’s what he sounds like on the tape? Do you hear “screaming?”

Obama: Dubya’ 2 Electric Boogaloo

I hear someone that is obviously loud enough to be heard on Crowley’s radio, which he probably had attached to his collar and right in front of his mouth.

Whether if that is yelling or screaming doesn’t negate the fact that you can hear him on his radio from a few feet away.
http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

I guess his laryngitis wasn’t THAT bad…. /snark
http://firefox Annie (Whitey) Collier

Perhaps one could call screaming, “firmly demanding”. I do believe one could conclude from the look on his face that “Blacky” Gates was furious.
http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

It’s circular. Look up scream in a legal thesaurus/dictionary and scream=yell.

Yell=to howl. Bellow, whine, cry, yowl, squawk, squeal, bark, scream, holler, screech, shout, roar, laugh, wail, shriek, yelp, explode, boom, bang, thunder, reverberate. See also noise.

If one wanted to be a real ahshole about it then it would be the degree of intonation, decibel level, selection of words spoken, the context in which the words were spoken, the intent of words spoken, the accepted meaning of words spoken, the causation or reason why those words were spoken, and the object or person those words were spoken, yelled, intended for, etc.

All that doesn’t negate who spoke them (Gates) and to whom they were spoken to (Crowley).

Ferd Berfle

Ah…. “calibrating” ones words….

Indeed. Such stilted rhetoric from That One. He can “calibrate” his words only because he is a stepford President–an automaton. Real people don’t calibrate anything other than mechanical devices.

If I hear anyone else comment to That One’s alleged ability with language, I’ll blow chunks.

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

I was wondering if those were bolts on either side of Obama’s neck. You answered my question.

trixta

Portions of the tape are pretty muddled, but (surprisingly) I didn’t hear any hysterics by Gates. Someone (Gates?) does speak in the background, but I can’t discern what he’s saying. Perhaps if the tape had not paused so many times we might have gotten a better sense as to the level of agitation by Gates.

elise

ahs, if Gates said what has been reported about Crowley’s mother, he should be fired from Harvard. Maybe you should be absolutely sure of the facts before you do what Obama did and judge without the facts. Or don’t you have a problem with rape?

jwrjr

When Gates and Ozero apologize for their shameful acts and statements I will be checking the weather report to see if Hell really has frozen over.

Terry

Ha!
http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

Will it be because of the legislation requiring Obama to apologize or because Obama is mature and – oh what the h*ll – mentally stable enough to apologize on his own?

LOL!

mountainaires

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/27/national/main5191074.shtml?tag=breakingnews

You can listen to the police dispatcher tapes. On that tape the dispatcher clearly states that the race is not known, thus Sgt Crowley DID NOT KNOW GATES WAS BLACK when he went to the address on Ware Street on the report of a burglary in progress. Sgt Crowley was blindsided by Gates’ verbal assault on him, since he didn’t even know the race of anyone involved when he arrived at the home.

Now, how can a “racial profiling” charge be leveled against an officer who DID NOT KNOW THE RACE!

What this proves is that Gate’s initial and continued verbal assault against Sgt Crowley about racism were in fact only Gates’ racism against Crowley!
Terry

Racial profiling–what a joke. The tape totally vindicates the good citizen who saw something unusual and tried to protect a neighborhood home. 0bama has egg all over his face.

A brilliant must-read from the Washington Times about the many rush-to-judgments against whites (Duke lacrosse players, Richard Jewell, etc) and the reverse racism of Gates and Obama.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/27/the-presidents-accidental-gift-on-race/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_more_news_carousel

ahs

What did Obama say about the neighbor?
TeakWoodKite

0bama has egg all over his face.

I thought he was into pies, myself. So BO stated recently.
Terry, respectfully;
reverse racism. this term is BS. Racism is racism, regardless of what the skin color of the perp and victim are. It like say Hey Operator ” reverse the charges”, somebody sssssstill pays.

Terry

I hadn’t thought about that, TWK, but you are right.

hokma

There was a subsequent case at Duke involving a fraternity and the rape of a girl. In this case there was a real rape.

The story was hardly reported until the girl had left Duke and agreed to an interview in Newsday newspaper because she was from Long Island.

The reporter as well as Newsday columnist Ellis Henican had no choice but to report that the girl was white.

What they intentionally left out was that the fraternity was an African American fraternity and the rapist was Black.

You didn’t see any protest from Duke African American Studies or Women Studies teachers – no petitions calling for the ouster of that fraternity – and frankly not a shed of outrage as was witnessed during that deplorable episode prior.

hokma

This is the story link:

http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/2009/03/from-burch-to-lubiano-via-bohemia.html

Terry

That is a sad, sad story. As a former (very long time ago) Duke student, I am appalled at the actions of the administration and embarrassed for my school.

Retired

“Reverse racism?” What is that? The justifiable black on white defensive racism that occurs in response to the first strike of white on black racism?
It’s all just racism, period. Don’t try to softball Gates’ and Obama’s racism by calling it “reverse.”

tzada

They are just cranky cause their blogging check hasn’t arrived yet. Do they even cut checks for 50 cents?

Obama: Dubya’ 2 Electric Boogaloo

When it’s under $5 they payout in Cheetos.

TeakWoodKite

Dam one armed bandites. Obot playing the Cheetos slots…

http://shhhithitsthefan.wordpress.com/ It hits the fan

It is obvious from these few fleeting moments released for our listening pleasure that the whole story hasn’t been told. It certainly vindicates the woman who called in. And it does seem as if Sgt. Crowley is calm and following protocol. I just wish they would release the part where Gates is yelling. It would clear up a lot of misinformation.

BTW.. I took your advice and started a blog and wrote my first article. It isn’t about this subject. I’m fairly certain that will come later considering the new facts making it out into the public arena.

Here is the address of the article if you would like to take a look:
This is what A REAL LEADER looks like

http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

Really nice post…definitely worth a read for any Palin fans.

http://shhhithitsthefan.wordpress.com/ It hits the fan

Hey thanks!

tzada

I visited too and really a professional post/site
thanks for inviting us.
TeakWoodKite

:S:
avwrobel

Looks very good!
Retired

To release the tapes of Gates’ behavior, which I gather was neither gentlemanly or scholarly, would be considered to be racist. If he were a white guy, it would be OK, though.

FranSC

Are there tapes of that part or are you just wishing?

samb

Obama, stepped in this all by himself and now he wants to make it all better with a beer how is he going to handle a military crisis or middle east crisis , the man is a DIPLOMATIC NIGHTMARE
http://helpmejoseph.typepad.com/puma_for_life/ Puma for Life

So, what’s the teachable moment? And what is the committee formed in Cambridge going to look into? How about reverse discrimination. If I were Crowley I wouldn’t go near that beer.

http://shhhithitsthefan.wordpress.com/ It hits the fan

If I were Crowley I would have someone taste the beer first.

avwrobel

Ha!

http://shhhithitsthefan.wordpress.com/ It hits the fan

If I were Crowley I would have someone taste the beer first to check it for Kool-Aid.
FranSC

My thoughts about the Cambridge City Manager announcing this think tank committee to investigate how this happened and what to do in the future to prevent it is they were trying to get a heads up on B0 and Gates before Thursday’s beerfest and the possibility they would turn this incident even more into an excuse to talk about their favorite subject as a *teachable* moment for the country as if Gates were the victim he has played since it happened. I also feel they thought it may cause embarrassment for Crowley that these two were still basically blaming him for racial profiling.

One thing is for sure. I am so thankful Crowley was the innocent professional. If he had said anything that could have remotely been interpreted as racial, we would be hearing these lessons from “The Great One” for months. Instead, he and his friend look like the fools they are, albeit, educated fools.

TexasMirth

Thanks for posting those videos, AGI. I hope the rest are allowed to be heard, but I’m not holding my breath.
Gibbs said yesterday on FOX that the president had prepared for the possibility of being questioned about this story. So, this is what Ozero’s preparation has wrought? I cannot believe this is what he wanted…or am I just naive?

http://shhhithitsthefan.wordpress.com/ It hits the fan

the president had prepared for the possibility of being questioned about this story.

The last time he was “prepared” for a response it took his speech writers two hours to come up with “I would have calibrated my answer differently.”

What normal human being says that they would calibrate an answer? This is elitism at it’s worse and the American people see through it completely. Witness how his poll numbers have started a nosedive. I am sure the next prepared (by someone else) answer will be equally elitist and unconvincing.

NoBamaNoWay

the elitism is exactly why Obots adore him.
Ferd Berfle

The last time he was “prepared” for a response it took his speech writers two hours to come up with “I would have calibrated my answer differently.”

What normal human being says that they would calibrate an answer?

Obviously his writers haven’t had even a single course in beginning composition. Use of the word calibration is gobbledegook. It isn’t high-brow language–it’s completely stilted as if spoken by someone who recently learned a few polysyllabic words and put them to use (e.g., a college Freshman). Oh… that is what That One does–just string together lofty sounding words without a thought to context.

HARP

This is not Gates first rant against whites. Obama sure knows how to pick his friends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRlIdFcWd5k&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefoxnation.com%2Fpolitics%2F2009%2F07%2F27%2Fvideo-gates-rant-against-racist-white-institutions&feature=player_embedded

Obama: Dubya’ 2 Electric Boogaloo

Apparently there’s 2 conditions for being Obama’s friend:

1) Hate America and/or
2) Hate whitey

Julia

And hate women. What does say Gates? ‘You believe a white woman before a black man’. Fraternity well and alive. This clearly is sexism

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

Had time to review that clip. So old Henry Gates aka Skip, Chip, Dip, Flip, Snip, has engaged in the demeaning of America, whites, and all the opportunities afforded him before…

So is old Skippy Gates… a bigot…say along the lines of a person of color’s answer to Archie Bunker?

Or did Skip not get the memo about rising above the pettiness of racism as most whites received last summer?

http://noquarter foxyladi14

doesn’t he know we have a black potus.,,and that race card expired jan.20.09

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

Absolutely!

Diana L. C.

So, children, is this: If you see someone breaking in, just walk on by.

If she needs help paying for a spokesperson, I suggest a government bailout over one for AIG.

Diana L. C.

I meant also to say that Ms. Whalen DID mispeak when she called the two people she saw “gentlemen.” I think we can safely say that Gates is NOT a gentleman.

janicen

Among the many unfortunate aspects resulting from this incident is that Lucia Whalen will likely never again get involved when she suspects a crime is being committed. I wonder how many people will feel the same way after hearing she’s now had to hire an attorney?

She’s the hero in this story. Obama should invite her to the White House for a beer.

http://firefox Annie (Whitey) Collier

Proving once again that no good deed goes unpunished. I know that’s what I’m beginning to feel like having worked and stood for civil rights over the past 40 years.

Sgt. Crowley better take a “designated driver” with him to the WH or after that beer, he might find himself charged with a DUI. Actually I’m hoping he’ll pass on the WH invite and let the Dims have their racist rant in private.
Rob G in Chicago

Hell, just open up the south lawn of the White House, tap a keg or two, and invite everyone from under the bus. Well make that a few dozen kegs. As more information emerges, I too need to taste a little crow, as I initially believed that there was enough blame and poor judgement to go around, with the lion’s share of blame for lack of judgment going to the President. While I still think that Crowley should have just left crazy Gates screaming at the curb, I can’t fault him for being so accommodating and for giving Gates exactly what he was asking for. It could have been a lot worse for Gates:
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/25/idaho-man-sodomized-by-police-taser-plans-to-sue/

barry bums a ciggie

Uh oh, that 911 operator better watch out. The race baiters are going to go after somebody!
IndieDogg

BHO is using the “jazz” of the Presidency, being invited to the White House, to cover his own rear end.

And Gates is helping him. Read Gates’ statements quickly and gladly accepting the invitation from his “friend” Obama. Even in accepting, he notes his hope that this meeting can help as his version of a “teaching moment” to help reduce RACIAL PROFILING in our culture.

Does Crowley not read those words?

Even NOW, Gates won’t let it go. Crowley is about to be used and abused, with the sole purpose of letting a rookie politician fix a gaffe and his friend continue his crusade against the straw man he, himself, has constructed out of this incident.

But, who can resist a trip to the White House and the cool photos in the Oval Office with a cold beer, hanging with your new chums?

NOTHING good can come of this and I’m stunned that Crowley, who’s no rookie himself, doesn’t see it coming.

I’ll buy him a whole six pack if he DOESN’T go. It’s a set-up, Sargent.

Obama: Dubya’ 2 Electric Boogaloo

If he goes he should make public statements that he’ll gladly accept a beer in person for the President’s and Gates APOLOGY. What’s Gates and Obama going to do? Rush to a microphone and say they’re not apologizing?

IndieDogg

Agreed.

Patrick Henry

YEP..

Sounds like Barack Obama is trying to offer a BRIBE to a police officer to me..

That and the Beer offer leave a bad taste in My Mouth…
Patrick Henry

I wonder if barack just wants to tell Sgt. Crowley to his face that He and His police department make “Stupid decisions” and tell Sgt. crowley that he is just another “bitter White Guy clinging to his Gun”..

Is he offering Sgt. Crowley a bribe..??

Our Predjustice President should have stayed out of this whole Incident..or taking sides with his “Good Friend”.. Predjustice Professor Gates.
http://firefox Annie (Whitey) Collier

Well, Gates does have a Race Baiting Business to support and perpetuate. He’s merely marketing from the WH.

Patrick Henry

Yeh Anie…wonder where the Money came from to pay for his Trip to China..perhaps his “Non Profit” Funds…since he says he went to China to study DNA..

Must have…since he came back with some DNA.

Damned Nasty Attitude…

Masha

Is Hispanic a race? The term Hispanic refers to people born in Latin America or Spain who speak Spanish and their descendants. There are Hispanics of all races. The dark olive-skinned Hispanic is a stereotype.

Animal Control

People from Spain are Spanish–never heard them use the term Hispanic.

trixta

Animal C, I understand that the term “Hispanic” is manufactured — either by the gov bureaucrats to offer more categories for the Census or by advertizers.

(BTW, I’ve heard the term “hispanists” used to refer to scholars whose focus is the study of Spain (or anything having to do with Spanish language and culture).

http://blueskyrising.blogspot.com blueskyrising

The Media knows they lie, but they do it anyway. Just look at this quote I discovered by the Former Chief of Staff of the New York Times. After reading this quote if the naysayers still believe the lies the media propagates for their corporate profit ends then I don’t know what will wake them up.

http://blueskyrising.blogspot.com/2009/07/prostitutes-of-main-stream-media-know.html
http://www.missmalevolent.com Miss Malevolent

Now Obama is trying to play nice nice with the cop…I hope Gates tells him to shove it.

In other news, I hope Gates AND Crowley finally gets why supporting Obama was the wrong choice. Cause when push comes to shove…Obama will throw you under the bus depending on which way the political winds are blowing.

First he shoved Crowley under the wheels. Then Gates.

Wishy washy smug idiot that he is…

I feel for the cop, but only a little cause he had to learn a hard lesson as an Obama supporter.

Patrick Henry

I Agree…I don’t think Sgt. Crowley should go to the White House under these Circumstances..

He should consider the possibility that BARACK OBAMA is offering him a BRIBE..(think about it)

And that whole “have a BEER “thing just sucks..leaves a bad taste in My Mouth…

cathnealon

Crowley should make up some excuse like his child is sick or something and blow this invite off. Bo is only using it to get himself off the hook. Even the Sunday talk shows had Dyson Parker Brazille Krugman adding fuel to the race fire–still saying that this is a case of racial profiling–yeah it is, only reverse racial profiling. Don’t go Crowley!
ahs

Here’s an interesting thing…

So the caller (Whalen) obviously never described the two men entering Gates’ house as “black.”

In the police report, however, Sgt. Crowley wrote the following:

Whalen, who was standing on the sidewalk in front of the residence, held a wireless telephone in her hand and told me that it was she who called. She went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of 17 Ware street.

Yet Whalen’s attorney says the following:

“Let me be clear: She never had a conversation with Sgt. Crowley at the scene,” Murphy told CNN by phone. “And she never said to any police officer or to anybody ‘two black men.’ She never used the word ‘black.’ Period.“

Seems there are some discrepancies between the police report and Whalen’s account. Interesting.

Docelder

That happens when they are written as a posse with hindsight and can be spit shined. I am not defending the professor, just his right to be obnoxious in his own home if he so chooses. I still say it. We don’t know these police, we don’t know the profiling class material. The press will dive this guys trash cans and will interview everybody who went to one of these profiling classes. How not to profile is going to look a whole lot like wink wink how to not be accused of profiling or if you are how to beat it. People need to let this die, because race is poison.

ahs

Agreed, for the most part.
mountainaires

Docelder, get real.

You don’t have the “right to be obnoxious in your own home” when you are threatening, abusing and insulting a police officer.

That is the most idiotic argument I keep hearing people make: It’s not “illegal” to yell at a police officer if you’re in your own home.

It’s patently false. And, it’s exceptionally ridiculous, too.

In domestic violence situations, cops routinely arrest people IN THEIR OWN HOME.

Moreover, if you think VERBAL ASSAULT is legal, when it is committed against a police officer, then try it sometime, and you’ll find out. Or just try it on a complete stranger on the street in front of a police officer. When the officer tells you to “calm down,” or even to “STFU,” he is issuing you an order based on his authority to maintain peace in the community. It’s his job.

Gates was warned by a police officer repeatedly to calm down; he refused to do so; he continued his verbal assault on the officer; thus Gates provoked his own arrest for disorderly conduct.

Whether or not he was on his own porch, in his own home, or in his own yard when he committed the verbal assault is irrelevant.

ahs

You’re wrong on the law, friend. Sorry. Under Massachusetts law, you cannot possibly be convicted of disorderly conduct based on yelling at people. Even if it’s a cop. You have not committed disorderly conduct unless you either get physically violent or threaten physical violence. Gates did neither, so he did not commit disorderly conduct.

The case you’ll want to read is Commonwealth v. Richards, 369 Mass. 443, if you don’t believe me. You’re dead wrong on the law here. Give it up.
ahs

While we’re here, look up “verbal assault” or even just “assault” in a legal dictionary sometime. It doesn’t mean what you seem to think it means; assaulting someone involves trying to hurt them (physically) or making them think that you’re about to hurt them. Since Gates made no physical threats toward anybody… no assault, verbal or otherwise.

Animal Control

assaulting someone involves trying to hurt them (physically)

You’re no law student if this is your definition of assault–there is no physical component to an assault.

You flunk Law 101.

Try “apprehension of physical harm”

Docelder

I am no lawyer, and every state is no doubt different. But this is cut and paste from a legal blog regarding required elements in that cited case.

1. The defendant engaged in fighting or threatening, or engaged in violent or tumultuous behavior, or created a hazardous or physically offensive condition by an act that served no legitimate purpose.

2. The defendant’s actions were reasonably likely to affect the public.

3. The defendant either intended to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly created a risk of public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm.

I still see the order to go out of the house as a setup to satisfy element 2. There is no way the arrest could be justified had the professor not stepped outside and had neighbors not gathered due to the police presence.

ahs

doc: yeah, that’s the statute.

There’s a good rundown of the applicable case law, which clarifies some of the statute’s ambiguities, here:

http://volokh.com/posts/1248465451.shtml
Animal Control

What cited case are you refering. Is this a response to what I wrote because it doesn’t follow?
lisa mathis

The reports that I read said that the policeman told the professor to go back inside the house after he (the professor) followed him outside as he was leaving and continued to make a scene attracting a small crowd of spectators. At that time, he was told to settle down and go back inside. When he didn’t, he was warned that he would be arrested if he did not and since he did not he was arrested OUTSIDE HIS HOUSE. If the professor had listened to the policeman, there would have been no arrest no matter what he chose to say The incident would have been over.

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

Even in criminal law, assault can mean physical assault only sometimes.

Animal Control

A physical touching is called “Battery”

Assault is “inducing apprehension”

ahs

haha… common-law assault encompasses attempted battery (battery being an unlawful physical contact) — i.e., it covers attempts (which fail) to cause physical harm. That’s why there’s the old redundant “assault and battery” term: the assault is the attempt, and the battery is the success of the attempt. Since this is redundant, it’s fallen out of the modern usage in many jurisdictions. I have no idea about Mass., but it’s a moot point.

Assault also covers what you (probably) pulled of wikipedia — intentionally putting somebody in apprehension of unlawful contact.

——–

Side note: I enjoyed that you couldn’t even be logically consistent in your short critique. You say:

there is no physical component to an assault.

…and then you say:

Try “apprehension of physical harm”

So, um, yeah, there is a physical component, and you said so yourself — it’s in the victim’s mind. The basic element of the tort is that the victim fears a physical contact. Somehow you missed that. Probably because you have no idea what you’re talking about.

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

Hey, numbnuts….

find the difference between assault and battery.

Or: Why is an action sometimes termed: assault and battery?

Torts vs Criminal

May you try to be a tax attorney…

ahs

ugh… i just explained it. assault is either a) a failed battery (attempt to hit, but you don’t hit) or b) intentionally making somebody think you are about to hit them. that’s it. little difference between crim and tort. may vary by jurisdiction. if you want legalese, i can supply.

and that’s it.

Animal Control

You flunk again asshat, the key word is “apprehension” look it up in “Black’s” you really don’t know what the heck you write.
You must be a law student at Harvard–I pity your clients.

Animal Control

Furthermore num nuts-an Assault and a Battery are criminal acts not Torts.

Animal Control

My mistake as concerns the above , after a little thought I guess they could be civil litigation.

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

civil disobedience…

elise

Are you absolutely certain Gates made no physical threat against anyone, ahs? My understanding is he made a sexual violence threat against Crowley’s mother.

Docelder

Disorderly conduct has a public element to it. Hence the cop ordering the professor to his front porch within public view. This primarily is the reason I feel the cop had the wrong intentions. To me, it shows an intent to arrest the professor even before the front porch outburst happened. It shows participation in the disorder on the part of the cop, and can not be construed in any way of trying to defuse the situation. I think this is why the charges were so quickly dropped. This is why Obama, a Harvard lawyer himself, said the cops acted stupidly. It may have not come off well, but technically he was right.

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

Beyond that, the damage is done. People who don’t care about if the cop was outside legalities know this one thing.

Obama and in extension Gates, insulted cops, whites, and hardworking average american public servants. America doesn’t take kindly to pompous elitism.

That’s going to drive the anger not the legalities and rights.

Ferd Berfle

Obama and in extension Gates, insulted cops, whites, and hardworking average american public servants. America doesn’t take kindly to pompous elitism.

That’s going to drive the anger not the legalities and rights.

Indeed. In addition, Gates actions do not serve the interests of the University or his fellow professors.

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

I hope the big buck donors are already closing the checkbooks to Harvard.

This isn’t going to go quietly into the night.

NomNomNom

“That’s going to drive the anger not the legalities and rights.”
I agree with you.
I just don’t think that’s a good thing.

Ferd Berfle

This primarily is the reason I feel the cop had the wrong intentions.

There was an alleged break-in so the officer did the right thing. Had Gates not actually been Gates and the officer let it go, there would be screaming from the bots about racism through indifference. These entitled ones want it both ways and Crowley was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t. The bottom line is that if an officer requests something, you’d better supply it, irrespective of your race or the officer’s.
Portia Elizabeth

doc — the officer had concluded his investigation and was leaving the residence. Gates followed him and continued his haranguing monologue. Gates was the instigator who would not disengage. If the officer felt threatened by an out-of-control citizen approaching him from behind, he acted according to dept. protocol to end the confrontation.

BTW, how do we know Gates didn’t angrily shake his cane in the officer’s direction? That is definitely a threatening gesture with a potential weapon.
Terry

I don’t see any reason for you to decide the police officer asked Gates to step outside to set him up. You’re a mind reader? The police officer had absolutely no idea what/who else was in the house. I could make up all kinds of reasons why Crowley asked Gates to step outside, but I can’t read minds anymore than you can. Why would you assume the worst? You seem to desperately want Crowley to be a racist.
kgirl1028

I agree, but i probably would have done the same thing, and i’m black. Gates is an obvious fool. And if he jumped in my face for no reason, i might be willing to out smart him. So i’ts not about race. This is about a disrespectful little snot being out thought by someone he believed beneath him. however it’s a very stupid thing to disrespect the people who protect you. Next Gates house gets burglerized they drive slow they drive slow. THen he would really get the “black experience”.
trixta

This is my line of thinking too, Docelder.

kat in your hat

Turns out they were black. woop dee doo.

ahs

Woop dee doo is right — race shouldn’t have been a relevant factor, and I believe that it in fact was not a factor.

All of which makes me wonder why Sgt. Crowley attributed info to Whalen that she didn’t actually provide. I guess he was just forgetful re: this particular fact, and it was an honest mistake. But I’m positive the rest of his report is 100% accurate.

kat in your hat

Well, race SHOULD be a factor in identifying a person to a police officer if one is a witness.

Gender too. Along with height and weight and clothing and location…blah blah.

kat in your hat

The new PC description will simply be “human being” or “Earthling”…

Cops try to search for suspect, and the suspect looks like an “Earthling”–no age or race or gender.

Suspect posters will just be an image of arrow pointing to planet earth.

Docelder

bipedal carbon unit.
ahs

I think you’re misunderstanding my question… I could care less about how suspects are described to the cops. I’m interested in why Crowley wrote that Whalen said things that Whalen herself now says she didn’t say.

http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

perhaps because after information given to him by the dispatcher, the woman caller, and perhaps the older woman who witnessed the break in, and his finding Gates in the home, he summarized the report combining information given to him, and information he obtained at the scene.

He also at different points was told/thought the house was an apt. the woman that called lived in the apt., that there were suitcases. The 911 operator also did not convey that the 911 caller wasn’t sure if they were breaking in, or had a key, if they lived there or not. he conveyed possible B&E. There was info that one might be hispanic, and info that race was unknown.

you’re just convinced he is a racist, aren’t you?
Obama: Dubya’ 2 Electric Boogaloo

Whalen was also at the scene when Crowley arrived. She might have gotten a better look before Crowley arrived, thus it “appeared” that two black men were breaking into the house.

I love all the Obama Dick Tracies! Suddenly the Obamabot brown shirters all have law degrees!

Animal Control

Hey dip, has it not occured to you that what she said to the Officer at the scene could differ from what she said in the 9-1-1 call?

http://shhhithitsthefan.wordpress.com/ It hits the fan

I think that Whalen is concerned that she may be put in the middle of a racial-bias lawsuit, thus hiring a lawyer. There were other officers there that will either confirm or deny Sgt. Crowley’s account.

ahs

She’s fine. Good Samaritan laws tend to shield mistaken 911 callers from suits. Understandable that she brought in a lawyer (if for nothing else but public statements) but she’s got nothing to worry about from Gates.

Oh, and for what it’s worth, private citizens can’t sue private citizens for racial bias (outside of employment, etc.) so there’s certainly no chance of that type of lawsuit.
FranSC

Her attorney said tonight she decided she needed an attorney because she was being called racist and blamed for the whole incident. Obviously not!

After listening to those tapes today there should be a lot of humiliated people, not the least should be Barack Obama and Prof Gates.

cackicoo

crowley calls gates, “the gentleman….”

lets hear all the tape and see…crowley sounds like a gentleman too….bring on the tapes

kat in your hat

Lady who called the cops also said “gentlemen”…that just happens to be what men are called sometimes. See, I just called lady who called a “lady”–dunno if she is “ladylike” all the time. Both titles are bull anyway (for a lot of reasons).

I’ve watched court hearings in which accused rapists and murderers are referred to as “gentlemen” by cops on the stand. pfft.
kat in your hat

Lady who called the cops also said “gentlemen”…that just happens to be what men are called sometimes. See, I just called lady who called a “lady”–dunno if she is “ladylike” all the time. Both titles are bull anyway (for a lot of reasons).

I’ve watched court trials in which accused rapists and murderers are referred to as “gentlemen” by cops on the stand. pfft.

William L. Donlon

White Police officers are routinely profiled by angry blacks.

It’s called Policing while white.

To be born White is to be born a suspected racist by these angry blacks.

An angry black mayor, an angry black governor and an angry black President sided with an angry black University professor to profile a calm white Police officer as a racist for using the term “gentleman”.

Obama has been right about one thing.
This has been a “teachable moment”.

Whites have learned first hand that Racism is a two way street.
kat in your hat

The tape shows that a caller didn’t say ”BLACK MEN, OMG! COPS, COME QUICK!” it also shows that the officer who received the call wasn’t “racist” in his talk with her: “Were they white, black or hispanic?” It also shows that the cops weren’t responding to the scene BECAUSE they were black.

No racial profiling. Routine investigation of possible breaking and entering.
arch200

I guess they confused suitcases with backpacks?

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

OMG!

I can hear the suitcases going crazy already!!!

“Is this how a suitcase is treated in America? This how America treats the suitcase!” “Is it because I’m a suitcase?!”

http://noquarter foxyladi14

rofl

J.J. (The PUMA)

All the important and powerful people who know the professor say he is as nice as cn be. But as is often seen, he is different with people he views as less important or powerful.

As for the woman who called in the report, it is too bad that her name was dragged through the dirt. But, I know from my experience in the legal justice system that in situations where it is not known who commits a crime, the person who reports it goes to the top of the suspect list.

Docelder

We have an upper class professor and a working class cop. Race was blamed, but I still think it was more about class. What is was not primarily about though was the law.

NoBamaNoWay

yeah, like maybe the self-proclaimed “elite” in america think that they’re above the law, and think that nobody making less than a six-figure salary has any right to question them.

AnnS

So the lesson here is that being a concerned citizen is a punishable offense.

NomNomNom

the takehome lesson here ought to be that you can get arrested even when the cops know you haven’t committed a crime if you speak to them in a way they don’t like.
one wonders why that doesn’t bother more people.

elise

Nom, do you believe if you were aggressive with a police officer, you would not be arrested? There have been two clear examples of racial profiling in the last few weeks, but these principles were not invited for a beer and the resolutions in those cases were not acceptable.

I was very bothered by both of these incidents and unhappy with the outcome. I felt both officers should have been dismissed.

On the other hand, when someone who is doing his job and is wrongly accused of being racist, the negative and undeserved accusation can do as much damage to race relations in the country. Many of us have an intimate understanding of race baiting. Until 2008, I had never been called a racist in my life.

If we can stick to the facts as they are presently known, Gates was not dragged from his house and arrested. Gates followed the officer out to the lawn and continued to harange him. Why was Crowley’s mother introduced into the discussion and what words were used?

If Gates did indeed use threatening words against Crowley’s mother, why is the lack of respect for a woman Gates doesn’t even know insulting and yet no one is outraged over a threatened rape?

NomNomNom

he is shown in handcuffs on his porch, not the lawn, so I’m not sure how accurate the lawn thing is.
I think it far more likely that he was not aggressive, but rather highly obnoxious: one presumes if he had said anything qualifying as threatening, he’d have been charged with it, but the charge was disorderly, and it was dropped.

I don’t want to repost whole thing but I described my encounter with police drawing guns on me at a traffic stop (where we hadn’t committed any traffic offense) a couple days ago. (Obama: I don’t know anything about it, except the white cop acted stupidly).
I don’t automatically assume cops behave well.

In any event, I am far more concerned with the retention of my right to say what I want in my own home, than I am this asinine quarrel between the professor and the sergeant. Right now it’s verbal speech in one’s own home towards a police officer in question. What’s next? Our speech on the internet? Criticism of Obama?

Here is another case of the police’s idea of disorderly. My post of it has “disappeared”.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/07/28-9
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/us_news/south/nat_wala_mobile_deaf_man_tased_pepper_sprayed_20090728927_2693456

kat in your hat

So Whalen is saying she wasn’t there or that she spoke to a different officer? Or she waited and then spoke to no one? For what.

911 call: Officer tells her to wait. She says she will.
maggie

Where’s the race baiter of all race baiters — The Reverand Al Sharpton — uncharacteristically quiet =

http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

he’s got his mouth full of crow.

http://shhhithitsthefan.wordpress.com/ It hits the fan

I think his mouth is full of something else, as usual.

Objective Analysis

As an African-American Woman, I apologize for the acts of Professor Gates, Cambridge Mayor, Governor Deval Patrick, and President Obama to the 911 caller, the cambridge police department and officer Crowley.

This is EMBARRASSING.

Both the 911 Caller, Officer Crowley, and the Cambridge Police Department have a valid legal civil claim of SLANDER AND LIBEL by whoever they choose who participated in this mess.

Just utterly embarrassing.

http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

no reason to apologize. you aren’t responsible for the bad actions of a few people. no one is.

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

Well, Skip Gates IS responsible for his own behavior.
Pennsylvania Red

If anyone should apologize, it’s the 0ne who led the white latte liberals to believe he was “post-racial”…and the AAs who voted for him believing he would be a champion for their cause.

He has let down both voting groups with the utterance of one misguided comment.

http://firefox Annie (Whitey) Collier

No need to be embarrassed for being enlightened and informed. Trash and jerks come in all colors.

http://firefox Annie (Whitey) Collier

I do, however, know how you could feel. Being from Arkansas I was embarrassed, saddened and depressed as a teenager witnessing the ugly confrontation integrating Little Rock HS. It did turn me into a civil rights activist though. Let’s hope this incident illuminates attitude adjustments still to be done.

Love it! Dr. Keith Ablow saying that if Obama is still smoking, he shouldn’t be drinking beer. Hahahaha. He also pointed out the ignorance of selecting someone who is overweight as the government expert on health. Oh well, at least she’s the right color.

Peggy Sue

No need to apologize, Objective. We all know that jerks come in all colors, sizes, genders, ethnic backgrounds and religions. If we had to apologize for every corner that we might be associated with, there’d be no time for anything else.

The important thing is to cut through the fog and call each incident for what it is: real or bogus.

In this case, I think the evidence is clear. Except for deluded Obamatrons, who now [a point of interst] are backpedalling on the racial profiling and finger pointing that Crowley’s police report was inaccurate.

So, he’s no longer a racist, merely a liar.

Somethings never change!

kat in your hat

Did you all already see this interview with Crowley’s fellow AA officers? One won’t vote for Obama again because of this mess. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-j_xvSBfP0 (h/t RBO blog)

_____________________
Listen, Gates’ entire career and life is ALL about race and racism. He sees the world this way in a hyper conscious way. I think he sees police as an inherently racist white institution, no matter WHAT. Gates is obsessed with race. And I think he is a racist.

Interesting thing about this video is that he mentions the “your mama” insult (that he did say to Crowley) and more: http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/video-henry-gates-rant-in-1996-on-racist-white-institutions
hokma

If I were Crowley I would open the meeting with Gates by saying something to effect of:

“I am not going to pretend that I can understand why you said what you did, why you accused me of racism when i was just doing my job, and certainly what you went through in life to come to that point. All I can say that I am not a racist and was very hurt by your charge.”

I am not going to make any excuse for Henry Louis Gates Jr. but unless any of us are Black and grew up during the 50′s in a segregated society we can’t understand the anger and hate that has probably built up inside Gates and how he perceives situations. Clearly Gates came a long way in life and is a very learned man. It appears that the incident set off a rage that has built up inside of him for a long time. As a responsible mature and successful professor there are no excuses for that outburst and would hope that he understands the power that comes from racial accusations expecially when they are false.

As far as Obama, the guy is a joke.

http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

But neither Gates or Obama are typical. Gates’ family members went to Howard. Obama grew up in a far from hardscrabble world.

HARP’s youtube clip of Gates speaking 1996 verifies that his family went to Howard.

The racism and bitterness Gates emulates in that clip is sickening.

hokma

never mind.
http://firefox Annie (Whitey) Collier

I saw that clip when he informed the audience that although his family attended Howard (nothing wrong with that he says) and also his puffed up ego when he tells them, that thanks to affirmative action, he went to YALE. Yes, and look what that produced.

Docelder

that thanks to affirmative action, he went to YALE

Sounds a lot like Sotomayor. I always looked at affirmative action that it wasn’t a badge of honor, because you needed help from the government to get ahead. But, I think that perceived racism is somewhat of a badge of honor now. There is no shame in needing the government to let you succeed where you otherwise wouldn’t have been allowed to. It is all in the spin, or the rationalization. Maybe it is also the source of the need to see racism now?

trixta

Docelder, affirmative action was a tremendous benefit on the level of gender, since women (esp. “white” women) who were trying to break into the ranks of higher education and of TV news reporting (& radio) benefited greatly from this gov policy. All that these women needed was an opportunity to show they, too, could handle the job — and the rest is history. (Alhough women as a class still earn 76-79% less than men!)

Unfortunately, Affirmtive Action can be used as a strict quota mechanism or create situations of reverse discrimination. This just goes to show that policies and laws need to be rethought generationally.

Seattle Moss

Unfortunately, Affirmtive Action can be used as a strict quota mechanism or create situations of reverse discrimination.

I know first hand Reverse Discrimination

When I first moved to seattle with my planning/political degree..I tried to get a job with the city..

Seattle flat out told me that I wasn’t the right color nor the right gender.
Better luck next time pal!

Fortunately I have no chip and things worked out.
Now you know why I’m such a champion of women…They are always being discriminated against and I want it to stop.

kat in your hat

This whole thing has been exhausting.

Obama is an @$$hole!
tzada

http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/toon072709.gif

This toon could be used for this article or the COLB
http://! stodgie

obama has bombed out with less than 50% approval in less than six months. and i think about that inaguration and the cost i just gag.

Docelder

I think of the styrofoam pillars speech at the Obamopolis… and all those American flags in the trash. That should have been the first clue. People were collecting every scrap they could as “history”. But still every one of those flags went straight to the trash.

http://! stodgie

not the type of history they had in mind i imagine.

Peggy Sue

Well, as they say: no good deed goes unpunished.

I heard that the 911 caller, Whalen, had sought out legal representation after being completely smeared by the press and the blogs and all the racial pimps out there grandstanding, as if they knew the facts before they were presented. Whalen did not identify race during her call and only offered “maybe Hispanic” after being urged to make a more definitive physical description. And wouldn’t it make sense that if in fact she’d been able to give a definitive description she would have said the people she saw were black or white, male or female, young or old, tall or short, thin or fat?

This is when PC nonsense is just that–nonsense. Professor Gates clearly overreacted and tried to take a good cop down to cover his own behind. In this instance the police department in general and Crowley in particular owe no apology. Rather, Professor Gates owes an apology for making a stink over a man doing his job.

And you better believe Gates and everyone else wants the cops on the spot in the case of a real break in. This is not the way to honor that desire or show any respect for these men that do an incredibly difficult job, one which most of us would not want to do.

I can understand the professor being tired and annoyed. I can understand his surprise, even shock at a policeman at his own door, asking for ID. But he crossed the line with his obnoxious behavior and knee-jerk accusation of racism. Simply put, he was wrong.

Good article, AGI.

Ferd Berfle

Professor Gates clearly overreacted and tried to take a good cop down to cover his own behind.

Gates conduct was clearly unbecoming a person in the employ of a university. Had I behaved in that sort of fashion, I would have been arrested, too, and with good reason. Gates can blather on all he wants about racism and point fingers in every direction but his own. However, this only demonstrates that he really ought to work on his own character first. How did a man such as this ever become a University Professor?

Pingback: The Left’s New Sexism: Conservative Women are Stupid Bimbos | Hillary or Bust
Babs

thecrimson.com is the website of Harvard’s student newspaper. Gates colleagues in the Dept of African and American studies wrote him a letter of support, but the comments after the letter from the kids at Harvard show they are not quite in tune with the views of his colleagues. Sorry I can’t link to the article, old lady is computer challenged, maybe one of you young’uns could find it?

Nice to see the kids at Harvard can recognize a pompous jackass when they see one.

Portia Elizabeth

Babs — my husband is a Harvard grad. He didn’t take any of Gates’ classes because his friends who did all talked about what a biased, arrogant ass Gates was. They also expressed disgust with his racist remarks and ideas.

Gates actually espouses no taxes for blacks as reparation. And he thinks they should be exempt from military service, too.

My husband is a minority (Chinese), but when it came to getting into Harvard, he was lumped in as “white” and got NO affirmative action help at all and no special-needs scholarships.
pm317

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=528594

Wow, that letter from the Harvard prof is so badly written.

http://helpmejoseph.typepad.com/puma_for_life/ Puma for Life

Lucia Whalen needs to send her lawyer’s bill to the White House for payment.
NomNomNom

http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/us_news/south/nat_wala_mobile_deaf_man_tased_pepper_sprayed_20090728927_2693456
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/07/28-9
Deaf mentally handicapped man pepper sprayed, tasered by police for not leaving restroom stall when they ordered him to (he couldn’t hear them). Police arrested him and tried to charge him with disorderly conduct but the magistrate would not accept the charge. He spent 5 hours without being charged with anything at the police station before being released.
A spokesman for the Mobile Police Department said the officers’ actions were justified because the man was armed with a potential weapon — an umbrella.
Spin that why don’t ya’ll.