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17 S. Dakota County Commissioners Do Not Endorse the “Presumptive Nominee”

By Uppity Woman on June 3, 2008 at 2:00 AM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, DNC, Delegates, Electability, Hillary Clinton, Presidential Candidates

As Barky Obama continues to crawl on his knees through broken glass toward the finish line, hoping his fairy godmother at the DNC pushes his limping butt to the other side, 17 Commisioners of 15 South Dakota Counties have endorsed Hillary Clinton. Kind of makes you wonder exactly how much confidence people have in “presumptive” nominee Barack Obama even at this late date, doesn’t it?

With less than fifty percent of the popular vote, Barack Obama still hasn’t closed his own deal, even after he was given free Michigan delegates and votes that were actually cast for other candidates. He hasn’t closed his own deal even after four delegates were arbitrarily removed from Hillary Clinton’s total and given to him as an Affirmative Action Gift from the Rules Committee.

There just aren’t going to be any more primaries after today, so Barky is going to need another Affirmative Action injection in order to be declared the “winner”. Apparently, none of this seems to be a problem for the Party. Somebody needs to explain to them that in General Elections, nobody gets spotted any points. Somebody needs to explain to them that there are no caucuses in General Elections, so no busloads of college students will be at the polls taking control of the room, threatening old ladies and fudging results. Come to think of it, somebody will explain these things to them–on November 4.

In the meantime, South Dakota’s leaders aren’t buying the smoke and mirrors surrounding Barack Obama’s “Nomination”. They kind of feel like the rest of us do. Honestly, you would think these people would get the message that people don’t pick Presidential candidates, Marxist Party leaders do that for them.

In a clear display of momentum two days before the primary and on the heels of multiple visits by Hillary, Chelsea and President Clinton, the Clinton campaign in South Dakota today announced the endorsement of 17 county commissioners.
These commissioners, who are endorsing Hillary because of her commitment to South Dakota, have been helping the campaign’s efforts in their counties and spreading the word about why Hillary Clinton is best prepared to be President.

The list of commissioners who have endorsed Hillary is below.

Richard Waltman, McPherson County
Bill Nibbelink, Moody County
Shirlee Leighton, Lake County
Gerald Weiss, Davison County
Chester McManus, Hanson County
Thomas Thompson, Lawrence County
John Pesek, Bon Homme County
Sharon Drapeau, Charles Mix County
Robert Sperl Sr., Gregory County
Denny Deffenbaugh, Gregory County
Monte Anker, Jones County
Doris Miner, Tripp County
John Lind, Dewey County
Connie Whirlwind Horse, Shannon County
Francis Pumpkin Seed, Shannon County
Larry Bakke, Hamlin County
Clinton Fowler, Zieback County

http://politicaldiscontent.blogspot.com Arius

this is very interesting because a few days ago 22 Native American leaders in S Dakota also endorsed Hillary!

beebop

This is the West where he was supposed to do really well, right? How much was he up just a few short weeks ago? And they would have you believe this thing is over? I really do feel like I am in OZ.

Mary

What “West?”

The one full of Hispanics who won’t vote for him?

Puuuuleeeeze.

Seattlemoss

They kind of feel like the rest of us do. Honestly, you would think these people would get the message that people don’t pick Presidential candidates, Marxist Party leaders do that for them.

The democrat party has been taken over by the

Obamarxists.

Country before party!!!

I would rather vote for a patriotic old war hero than an anti-American Marxist racist.

HARP

I understand some people can`t vote for McCain but I urge them to keep this in mind. Staying at home or write in`s are one thing but for everyone of us that votes for McCain, Obama needs 2 votes from the I-pod crowd just to compensate.

Mark

Don’t waste your energy. This poster is an obvious GOP troll.

beebop

You wish … all of the support HE got in Pennsylvania …. such as it was was crossover Republicans and he will not be seeing that in November! hahahahahahahahaha
Mawm

The GOP weren’t trolls while Obama thought he would win them. Now, that it is obvious no Republican would EVER cast a vote for Commie Obamie, the GOP are trolls.

Seattlemoss

Commie Obamie
That’s got a great ring to it

jadwiga

I urge all Hillary supporters to vote for McCain in November if Obama is the nominee.
This is beyond party interest. BO is a very dangerous man. We will need every single vote to keep him out of the White House. Do not underestimate the power of the ruthless opportunist.

Obama and his crowd reminds me of how Lenin in Russia took over, how the Hungarian elections were hijacked after WWII, making Hungary a slave country to the Soviet Union. These people have no shame and the limit of their aspiration is just nonexistent. They will do anything and everything to achieve their objectives.

We have seen at the Rules and Bylaws Committee, how democracy was trampled on.
Donna Brazil had the nerves to say that they “conceded” delegates to Hillary Clinton from Michigan… It is same as saying that “be glad that we robbed you but we were so kind and left your shirt on your back”.

There is no word to describe how eerily familiar this whole story sounds.
Donna Brazil had the nerves to say that Hillary Clinton got a “present” by getting 10 more delegates from Michigan… It is same as saying that “be glad that we robbed you but we were so kind and left your shirt on your back”.

Mary

I second this urging.

If you want to see the DNC structure change, certain people fired, and respect for the real rules reinstated, a vote for McCain is the ONLY choice.

This is about principle, folks.

Hanna

Absolutely right Harp. I hope more people will consider voting for McCain. I do understand and respect the opinion of those who feel they cannot. But McCain, will be a one term President – the danger of having Obama goes far beyond the disgraceful way Sen. Clinton and supporters have been treated. Obama is a dirty Chicago Combine politician. This country can’t afford the brand of change at the root of Obama’s candidacy.

Becky

Great news I hope the supers feel the same way
CognitiveDissonance

It’s starting to get comical how many people, including state elected officials, are turning their noses up at the presumptuous candidate. I have a feeling that the Saturday night debacle stunk all the way to S.D. I know I smelled it way out here in Oregon.
http://politicaldiscontent.blogspot.com Arius

ok, my 3rd attempt to post this lil tidbit (my posts aren’t showin up most of the time)

22 Native American Leaders in S.D. endorsed Hillary the other day also
http://politicaldiscontent.blogspot.com Arius

ok I’ll just keep trying.. this is now my 5th attempt to make a post. (why me?)

22 Native American leaders endorsed Hillary also the other day

(just what does it take to have comments actually show!)

Michelle

I had that problem last night – it helped me to shut down explorer and start again…I think it was some code in the cache or something??

Anderson

Just don’t use (Internet) Explorer. If you’re on Windows. Don’t use Windows either. But until you get something better – get Firefox. You won’t have those issues any longer.

no waffles

That is great news, and I have followed every announcement of this. I work with Native Americans and know they can make a huge difference in a rural state like SD and MT. thanks for the information!

jessie

The supers will not do anything to keep Obama/Marxist from being the nominee. They have made that very clear. We get it.

In the months leading up to the general election, I predict Obama/Marxist and Axelrod Salinsky Organizing Cooperative will need to hold many seminars discussing the many principals of organizing “The Alinsky Chicago Way”. It is the only way they will be able to increase their Young and Black Marxist army.

I know when I write about this people say I am too tin foil hat but I don’t care. It is the truth but the media will not investigate the real truths. They are out there and this site has shown some of the truth but there is so much more.

Obama/Marxist is only the vehicle for the real Marxist agenda to to come into the population. He is the perfect candidate for them. Play on the white liberal guilt with his blackness. Attract the young who are looking for something “new” and “change” they will accept that this is nothing new it is replayed over and over every few decades. Threaten and hold the party hostage with fear of the black vote leaving the party. Classic – Marxist behavior.

Sal Alinsky would be proud. the caucuses are perfect for his type of organizing tactics. That is why he won the caucuses. Hillary although studying Alinsky did not embrace it as she did not have the void to be filled that Obama/Marxist did.

For the marxist agenda to take hold there has to be a boy/man looking for approval and the desire to belong. He found that with the Chicago Black Liberation Theology/Marxist Agenda. He found his father and his father is Marx.

NO OBAMA/MARXIST
Ari

ok, this is #7, my 7th attempt to make a comment on this post. I don’t understand why my post in comments don’t show up so much of the time and other’s do!

The other day 22 Native American leaders also endorsed Hillary.

Ari

omg it only took 7 tries!
Uppity

Ari there have been problems with posting and they are working on it. Could you post the names? I would be happy to update my blog post with the names.
Michelle

Sorry about the site – BUT WOW – that is great news about the endorsements!!!

nickoury

There can be no logical reason to vote for BO in the end if he is the DNC’s candidate.

No American citizen can elect this wacko, Marxist, socialist, communist, racist in sheep’s clothing, to be President of the United States.

Looking at the roots of his thinking, the company he keeps, the choices he makes, his true meaning of change is not to unite, but rather to racially divide. That is the message he has listened to, absorbed, adopted and supported all of his adult life.

Divisiveness, anarchy and racism are not ideologies of unity and especially not Presidential ideals. BO knew well before announcing his candidacy, that he was immersed in those beliefs, more than twenty years worth.

He has every right to run for any office in the country, even the Presidency. But he can never be anywhere near the White House in a Presidential or vice-Presidential capacity.

It’s not a black or white issue.
It’s an Obama issue.

The choice for the country, if Hillary does not end up on a ballot without BO, is to vote for the next best candidate to win the WH, John McCain.

cc

I posted this the other day…but it bears repeating here.

America FIRST. Democrats, Republicans Second. Obamatons NEVER!
Mary

Barak Obama and his supporters are NOT “uniters.” They are street-fighter DIVIDERS, Chicago style. Anything to win.

If you want any real change to happen in the DNC, a vote for John McCain is the only way to make it happen.

nickoury

I’ve got a question.

When was the last time BO or Cheney bought a gallon of gas?

Don’t say you feel our pain.

BO is sitting on more than 42 million dollars and hasn’t bought gas for at least a year or more.

Cheney never has to buy gas and gets a good dividend off the profits of every gallon sold.

So why can’t we get even a small break on our gas expenses, no matter how minuscule?

And don’t tell me it’s needed for road repairs.
Yeah, the same roads that are neglected for years until they fail, and then a ten-person crew is sent out to watch a two-person detail fill a pothole.

Give me a break. Give us all a break.

Get Hillary in the WH and maybe some relief will finally trickle down to us.
http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

Upppity Woman:

You said:

There just aren’t going to be any more primaries after today, so Barky is going to need another Affirmative Action injection in order to be declared the “winner”.

Since Hillary’s plan and only way to win is the same as Obama’s — to convince the superdelegates to vote for her — are you saying that she is asking for an “Affirmative Action injection,” too?

Uppity

No I am sying NOBODY should have an Affirmative Action injection. Taking delegates from her and giving them to him was Affirmative Action. Taking delegates that belong to other canidates on the ballot and giving them to him was Affirmative Action. The office of the President of the United States is not an Affirmative Action job.

As for the superdelegates, what they decide to do will be on their own conscience. We can win or we can lose. It’s all up to them. It is very clear that they are deciding who the candidate will be, as NEITHER of them collected enough pledged delegates.

Now bug off.

Uppity

And let’s just say for the sake of fairness, they owe her One injection, but Obama will get two instead.
http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

Uppity:

If by “taking away delegates from her” you mean the resolution of the FL and MI messes, we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. I am of the impression that all of the Democratic candidates agreed that those primaries were to be disqualified. The fact that any delegates were assigned to either candidate is a crock, although I grant the political realities of having to toss them a bone.

The DNC should have penalized them half their delegates to begin with and stuck to that plan.

Kinky Ogremann

No – they agreed to NOT campaign there, with the explicit punishment being that anyone who did campaign there, would lose ALL the delegates they picked up in those states.

Now why would they fear that punishment if the beginning assertion was that it was never going to count?

Just think about it …

and might I add, Obama ran ads in FL for 2 weeks and actively campaigned in MI for “uncommitted” along with Richardson and Edwards. He broke the rules – and should have lost ALL delegates, as the DNC pledge stated, but noooooo – he had more people on the committee, and so he gets to cheat.
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

It’s not up to “candidates” and politicians and party bosses to determine what to do with votes…other than to COUNT them. Since when are these people more important thatn the electorate? When did Rules become more important than the Right to vote? This decision was Marxist, pure and simple. They negated the will of the voters. They took liberties that should never exist in the framework of a democracy.
Ai1een

The “agreement” was “not to campaign”. The agreement was NEVER to take one’s name off the ballot (which is WHY Obama’s name remained ON the ballot in Florida). Clinton, Biden, Gravel and Dodd honored the agreement, Obama, Edwards and Richardson BROKE the rules. However, the RBC in their infinite wisdom chose to PUNISH the states of Florida and Michigan for breaking their precious “rules”, but REWARDED Obama for breaking them.

Yo – Donna Brazile – MAYBE YOUR MOMMA SHOULD HAVE A SERIOUS SIT DOWN WITH THE RULES AND BY-LAWS COMMITTEE, FOR WHAT THEY DID SATURDAY WENT FAR BEYONE CHEATING…IT’S CALLED CORRUPTION. CAN YOU SAY HYPOCRITE, DONNA?
beebop

Are we going to cut South Carolina in half and give four of his delegates to her? They voted early as well. Arbitrariness is not “rules.”

Michelle

Awesome!! If these folks need to raise money – they should know that they can come to HRC’s supporters – we’ve got their back – just like they’ve got our candidate’s! Thanks S.D. county commissioners!

Sen. Daschle – just in case you’re reading – there is a reason why you LOST your reelection – and it wasn’t because of the Clintons. It was because YOU lost touch with your state and your constituents! You became a DC-elitist (if you don’t know what I’m talking about – recall the campaign ad with YOUR Jaguar pulling out of your DC garage) and that’s why you’re supporting Sen. Obama – the next big loser.

Go Hillary! I hope SD comes in for you – you’re amazing and Puerto Rico was glorious – keep fighting – we’re behind you!

Uppity

I actually got a call. No kidding. Asking for money. I said that I wanted nothing to do with the Marxist Party and hung up.

Mary

I got a call too.

Told em I’m not a Democrat anymore.

Hung up.

I suspect they’re getting a LOT of same.

Seattlemoss

Our country is in real danger of losing it’s heritage.
If Obama/Marx 08 wins we can look forward to the Internationalists controlling our everyday lives. As Obama said if it comes down to a choice between his friends in the 57 states of Islam or the United States his allegiance is with the Muslims.
I know that would make his real mentor Farrakan very happy.

No Surrender my friends!!!

This may be the real battle for our lives!!!
No Barks For Me

It must not be fun to be Obama right now. He probably senses the unraveling of his presidential ambitions despite assertions and hints to the contrary. Loving what I’m witnessing…Just wish this had happen sooner…much sooner!

I ask one favor of all of you, though: PLEASE do not insult marxists/communists by equating O’Barky with the holders of that philosophy. I can assure you that Obama is as much a communist as Stalin was – yes, you read it right; I wrote “Stalin”. You’d need a background in political philosophy with a focus on marxism to fully understand that assertion…So just trust me….please….

Uppity

I have to admit, this is going to be fun to watch. I so look forward to the swiftboat ads.

HARP

We should have a contest to pick our favourite.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

I will be posting all of them for viewing pleasure.

so saddened

please do, uppity. can we have a ratings system?

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Sure! I’ll figure something out.

Michelle

You’re trying to make the distinction between authoritarians and communitarians, is that correct? If you are then I completely agree. Obama wants to be a dictator.

HARP

The constitution of the Communist Parties and Communist states was grounded in Marxism; the basic difference between Communism in general and Marxism, is that Communism aims at the realization of a “Communist society”, while Marxism is a theoretical-practical framework based on the analysis of “the conflicts between the powerful and the subjugated”.[2][3] As a consequence of this, there are many scholars and thinkers who use Marxism as a framework for analysis but do not advocate a communist society.
bpeale

when you think about all the powers that bush has amassed in his tenure as CIC, it’s scary to think of those powers in Obama’s hands.

Joe

Stalin was just a petty dictator who took advantage of Russian culture and long history of living under czars and tyrants and the political machinery of the Communist party to build a cult centered around his paranoid self.

cc

sounds like BO’s plan to a T. He’s paranoid and his following is most definitely a cult.

Joe

In Obama’s case, he gamed the system to win himself a pile of delegates with the help of his cult, but that strategy is not going to ensure him victory in the GE against McCain.

jessie

Is it possible to insult a Marxist? I believe he is a Marxist. If you believe otherwise, please do come to his defense if you must. Explain what you believe about Obama/Marxist?

NO OBAMA/MARXIST
HILLARY OR MCCAIN 2008

Joe

He’s not a true Marxist but just another punk who grew up with a chip on his shoulder against white people.

mimi

What’s even more ironic about this is that he grew up in a home with ONLY white people on an island paradise where the native population, i.e. people of color ruled.

What’s wrong with him? He must have one of the most confused psyches since Hitler.

Hitler was a psychological piece-of-work, too. And we all know how that turned out!

Michelle

We’re all with you on the HRC or McCain!!

I think all that “No Barks” was trying to point out is that Obama – even if he is a communist is not even a Marxist – he’s actually more of a Stalinist and that is MUCH scarier.
Mirlo

The question should be the other way around: can you insult Marxism by calling Obama a Marxist? My answer is yes, bcs he is just a corrupt oportunist; he will not uphold and apply any values, throws under the bus whatever is inconveient at the moment.
Marxism hasn’t funcioned and never will, mainly because there are a lot of thugs in every society on the planet. In Democracy, where people are the sovereign, we have tools to control thugs. But it is not easy, takes a lot of thinking, analysing, reasoning, discussing, (and blogging, haha) less following blindly. It takes responsibel citizens who do not leave everything to politicians. I also think that we should choose politicians not because of our own, personal gain with someone’s program, but because a politician proposes wise, middle- and longterm solutions for the whole society and doesn’t act to the benefit of one group at the cost of another, weaker one.

Mirlo

Oh, and I believe Hillary is such a politician, I wish nothing more then a HRC WH in 2009.

Seattlemoss

actually I think the way they gamed Chicago and in the Caucuses are more similar to the Brownshirts under Hitler.

jessie

Michelle will be wanting a piece of your pie. Guess we better stop talking about her boy/man.

NO OBAMA/MARXIST
HILLARY OR MCAIN 2008

jessie

Michelle, I just saw your name, I was talking about Michelle Obama/Marxist will be wanting a piece of your pie.

NO OBAMA/MARXIST

Michelle

No worries – I figured – it sucks at the moment to have the unfortunate name as Barky’s wife (I used to like my name!).

Uppity

I don’t know about that, but his rallies were straight out of the Youth Movement playbook.

In fact, that’s the point when I became turned off to him.

Seattlemoss

The youth movement is how both Lenin and Hitler came to power

Kinky Ogremann

Don’t forget Mao and the Cultural Revolution – fueled by violent, angry young people (particularly men).
First thing they did – destroy all opposition, have people report on each other, accuse each other (McCarthyism), burn all books, kill all educaters/doctors/etc. – kind of is funny with the last point as the elite intelligencia seem to support Obama – do they know they’re the first to go in Marxist overthrow? Read some history!

Mary

Yes, Uppity.

And now we know that the multiple “fainters” were planted.

What a poseur!

mimi

Fainters were exposed???? I missed that!

Link please, I could use it!

Mary

If you mean THUGS trying to intimidate the opposition like Stalin had (think Daily Kos and RBC), then I would agree with you.
jadwiga

Yes, Marxism was a fairly utopistic idea. Lenin came and changed it to Marxism-Leninism. Than came Stalin and changed the whole thing into Stalinism.

Stalinism is really a handfull losely put together communistic ideas enforced with iron hand. The opposition is eliminated by deception, fraud, and force.

The order is maintained by internal spying, political policing.

The purpose of the ruthless erradication of any opposition is to ensure the unlimited power of the selected group. This selection is arbitrary.

The punishment of those outside of the chosen group is severe – even if they didn’t do anything deemed wrong.

A policy after WWII in Hungary was to deport adults born in noble families to labor camps. Their children mostly ended up in foster care.

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

Uppity Woman:

By the way, you’re aware that South Dakota has 66 counties, right? (Aurora, Beadle, Bennett, Bon Homme, Brookings, Brown, Brule, Buffalo, Butte, Campbell, Charles Mix, Clark, Clay, Codington, Corson, Custer, Davison, Day, Deuel, Dewey, Douglas, Edmunds, Fall River, Faulk, Grant, Gregory, Haakon, Hamlin, Hand, Hanson, Harding, Hughes, Hutchinson, Hyde, Jackson, Jerauld, Jones, Kingsbury, Lake, Lawrence, Lincoln, Lyman, Marshall, McCook, McPherson, Meade, Mellette, Miner, Minnehaha, Moody, Pennington, Perkins, Potter, Roberts, Sanborn, Shannon, Spink, Stanley, Sully, Tripp, Todd, Turner, Union, Walworth, Yankton, and Ziebach)

And that each appears to have five commissioners?

Michelle

You’re just mad because it isn’t a caucus. Why don’t you actually try voting for once and not bullying!

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

Michelle:

I did vote. In a primary.

I am not bullying. I am merely pointing out a couple of facts to add some perspective to the thrust of the main post.

Michelle

Was it Oregon?

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

No. New York.

mimi

He won’t win New York, Brendan.

Mark my words!

The latinos are going to have a huge say in that. And so are the Joe Bruno upstate Republicans. There are also a lot of angry upper westside Feminists, as well as a sprinkling of AAs like me who despise him. Oh yeah and I almost forgot about the Asians and the Seniors.

Remember, Staten Island is a staunch Republican stronghold.

Hillary and Bill can campaign all they want to, you guys blew it. You are exposed and no one is paying attention to the msm anymore. Enjoy your dream bubble while it lasts. Nov is coming with it’s needles.

Seattlemoss

I pray Hillary doesn’t accept the VP slot.
I know she is a team player and a good sport but Obama and all he represents is a grave danger to our country. The new democrat party needs to crash and burn in November

Michelle

Obama will not ask her. Trust me – the Dems are counting on the fact that McCain has one of the most conservative records on pro-choice issues and they believe that all Dem women will come “home” if they scare us enough about Supreme Court justices – hate to tell them – but I’m not coming “home” to my party – no matter what. Not this time – not unless HRC is the nominee.

Seattlemoss

They have been talking about Republicans reversing Roe ever since it was law. Never has happened.
McCain is a moderate who I think actually wants a legacy of compromise and unity.
I would be more concerned about losing ALL my rights under an obamarxist regime.
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

I have taken to cutting and pasting my answer to the supreme court threat:

If my younger sisters lose Roe Wade it will be their own fault for taking the rights they have for granted, because they didn’t fight for them. They are complacent and can take the time to swoon over a sexy empty suit who has already set gender relations back a minimum of 30 years, and we haven’t even gotten to the General Election campaign yet. Serves them right. Not my problem. I know how not to get pregnant.

It’s my job to protect the rights I fought for that matter to me. This is a misogynist’s campaign and if younger women are too busy spawning over Leland Gaunt handing out Needful Things and discussing his vibrating phone when he leans on one of them, then they will have to learn to take the consequences of their own folly along with the consolations. Maybe then they will Get It. I have already done well in my life. Complacency is their enemy, not mine. Let em eat cell phones.

Kinky Ogremann

Supreme Court to hell! Some things are more important – such as ALL of our rights that will definitely be destroyed in a Communist regime!

Ai1een

Like we’re stupid. There’s no way McCain is going to be able to shove in a conservative Supreme Court judge with a Democratic Congress. Also, they say no Supreme Court judges are looking to step down and McCain will probably not run for 2 terms.

Ai1een

I will gladly vote McCain over Obama – at least I know he’s a patriot.

beebop

I am trying to remember what — other than Bill Clinton’s administration — Democrats have done for me recently. Roe v. wade isn’t going any where. You know that, we know that. It is the ignorant crowd who buys that BS.
mimi

Me either. Keep your panties on young girls. They won’t move me with this bullshit either. I could care less about Supreme Court Justices.

Say, didn’t Barky want to vote ‘yes’ on Chief Justice Roberts? I don’t trust his choices either. BTW, Africans, mudlims tend to be pro-life and anti-abortion. Most black women and latinas have their babies. They may not be rabid pro-lifers, but at best they are indifferent. So I guess young white women have backed the wrong horse.

Tough!!

mimi

that’s Muslims!
Seattlemoss

I would be more concerned about supreme court justices that took the general rights of woman away under a Commie Obamie regime

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

I pray Hillary doesn’t accept the VP slot.

Speaking as an Obama supporter, I believe we have found a basis for agreement.

Michelle

What are you doing here? You’re not welcome.

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

What are you doing here? You’re not welcome.

I’m sorry. I was under the impression that this was an open forum, where people who believe in democracy welcome different points of view.

Michelle

Of course there is democracy – I just was asking why you’re such a masochist?

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

Time to start building bridges.

Michelle

Saw this today – can’t take credit it for it – (http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/01/ladies-and-gentlemen-you-are-looking-fine-today/) – but it pretty much describes how I feel about you Brendan. And quite frankly, I’d rather have good sex.

We should actually thank the RBC for yesterday’s ruling. It just dawned on me that we are the hottest voters on the damn planet. Yes, indeed. EVERYONE wants us now.

The DNC is going to try to push us around like some bad soon-to-be-ex-boyfriend. But secretly, they’re insecure and desperate for us to stay with them. Expect them to vacillate between violent threats and sweet talking. They want make up sex in the worst way and will probably do it badly. There is no orgasm in it for you, Clintonistas, but that doesn’t mean they won’t try. Just don’t return their phone calls. Get a restraining order. Change your address.

The GOP will see us as the prizes that we are. Yeah, they’re a bunch of jerks too. McCain will ply us with roses and champagne. They’ll want to “listen” to us. Lend us a shoulder to cry on. But they’re rotten to the core and we know it. As long as the sex is good, sleep with them all you want. But use protection and don’t commit to anything.

Hey, enjoy the single life. Life is pretty good right about now. We’re sitting on top of a goldmine

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

Ahhh, you’ll get over your anger and come to your senses. I’m not worried.

Maybe not you, specifically, but you, collectively.

Michelle

Brendan –

You don’t know of that which you speak – I am a long-time, big donor to the Democratic Party – I was an Edwards supporter in 2004 – I have been a delegate to the DNC Convention 3 times – and after this charade that I have witnessed this cycle – I am done.

As I explain below – Obama is not worthy of the nomination – I would have preferred Biden, Dodd, Edwards, heck…even Richardson over Obama.

I, however, cannot abide watching this cycle’s Howard Dean (read – fool!) take up air-time and destroy the Party.
so saddened

brendan, sweetie, that’s just part of the koolaid they’ve been serving you. we’re not coming around, specifically or collectively.

obambi has the votes he’s going to get. he’s not picking up repubs. he might’ve had some hope to pick up some indies, but the ayers/dohrn thing, added to all the church-related stuff, the rezko stuff, etc., have taken care of that. so his hope is to get ALL of us, plus some of the indies/repubs, but that’s not happening.

if i remember correctly, mcgovern got 38% of the popular votes and 17 electoral votes. obambi may be looking UP at those numbers.

Michelle

I’m loving the “sweetie” – I’m assuming that you’re reference to Obambi’s patronizing remarks to that Detroit reporter.
Michelle

I’m loving the “sweetie” – I’m assuming that’s your reference to Obambi’s patronizing remarks to that Detroit reporter.

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

Michelle, saddened:

As I said, maybe not you, specifically, but I don’t think there will be a large group of holdouts. Just listened to an interesting podcast where this point came up. Excerpt from transcript:

Salon: One of the concerns that our readers have, as it looks like we’re nearing the end of [the nominating] process, though we’ve often thought that before, is the poll numbers that show the supporters of one candidate who will not support the other. I wondered if those statistics seemed at all unusual to any of you in relation to any other election cycle.

Teixeira: The answer to that is no! We’ve got that one, we’ve got that one nailed, thanks to Gary Langer of ABC News who compiled these data. Check out these data: In February 1992, only 63 percent of Democrats who didn’t support Bill Clinton said they’d vote for him; in 1996, 66 percent of the Republicans who didn’t support Bob Dole said they’d vote for him in the general election; in 2000, 64 percent of the people who supported Bill Bradley said they’d vote for Al Gore. And what is it today? It’s 64 percent of the people who support Clinton say they’ll support Obama. Exactly the same. Historical norms.

so saddened

brendan, sweetie, you enjoy your numbers. obambi loves to rely on numbers. for various reasons that you and obambi simply wouldn’t get, this year is different.

i realize you and obambi (and the dnc and the msm) doubt this. there is no way to prove it other than in november.

you will see in november.

good night and have a day.
Michelle

That is the LAMEST data I have ever seen – that is data that all comes from elections that were not contentious!! Why doesn’t Texiera look at Ford/Reagan in 1976 or Goldwater/Rockefeller in 1964 or McGovern/Humphrey in 1968???

Those are much more comparable. Go back to school and learn some history.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Brendon, I do not think the majority of women and seniors who oppose Obama will “get over” anything. They tend NOT to vote against their own best interests. And if anybody is against their own best interests, it’s Obama.

Latinos have no problem voting republican as they have shown us. And they have nothing to gain or lose by doing that this time, since McCain’s immigration plan is perfectly acceptable to them. Latinos don’t like Barack Obama. I do think a great deal of it has to do with the Latino perception that blacks have treated them poorly and with a good deal of resentment. They will not vote against their own best interests.

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

UW:

Brendon, I do not think the majority of women and seniors who oppose Obama will “get over” anything. They tend NOT to vote against their own best interests …

I don’t know about seniors, but I do think most women will realize what McCain court appointees will mean.
mimi

Read my post above!

Keep your panties on girlies.

Re: that election data. If that’s what the DNC is relying on, they are true jackasses.

This has been the most historic election on so many levels, including how the msm played a BIG role in selecting the nominiee.

Obama as a ‘so-called black man’ is not the only history that will be made in Nov. The record numbers of bitter working class white people, latinos, Asians, Seniors, Feminists voting against him will be legion.

Remember, we’re not so much voting FOR McCain, as we’re voting AGAINST Barky.

Obama’s going to be my bitch come Nov.

See ya!

Michelle

Brendan:

It is exactly that kind of phrase that turns us off – big time – “come to your senses” – as though we are “crazy or irrational” – you know what – you have to understand that we think you all are the crazy ones for supporting that huckster Obama – the fact that you can’t see through him – you are the ones who need to come to your senses.

And btw – I’m in a “swing state” – not NY (like you), which won’t swing for your guy in Nov.

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

Michelle:

I didn’t mean “crazy or irrational,” just that you’re angry right now.

If Hillary manages to pull off the nomination, you can be sure I’ll be voting for her, because she’s better than McCain. I think most Hillary supporters will make the same calculation.
Ai1een

Brendan – In honor of the RBC’s decision on Saturday, I actually sent campaign money to the John McCain for President Campaign* (I’m maxed out for Hillary) with a copy of the e-Donation to the DNC. Yes, we really are that serious.

Ai1een

If you weren’t worried Brenden – you wouldn’t even be here trolling – scoping out the “enemy”.
no waffles

see? you vascilate between sweet talking (“its time to build unity”) and threats (“glad you came to your senses”).

Beat it, obamaphile. yes your approach is assault.

so saddened

sweetie, your bridge is going nowhere. we’re not voting for your guy, not in november, not ever.

the mccain presidency that will result if obambi is nominated is on you. hillary would’ve creamed mccain. obambi will lose.

don’t blame us for your bad decisions.

and delude yourself that we will come around to your point of view if you want, but reality hits in november.

your bridge will collapse.

so saddened

michelle, (the comments wouldn’t post below your comment, so i’m putting it here), yes, the sweetie for brendan is inspired by obambi’s patronizing remarks to the reporter.

i try to remember to call all trolls that, but doubt most of them know why.

clearly, we’re smarter than they are!

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

I admit the “sweetie” reference went right over my head. I don’t hear that term as an insult when directed at me, although I do understand why it offended that reporter.
http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

saddened:

I’m interested to hear that you label anyone who legitimately disagrees with you a “troll.”

Especially since the term “sweetie” apparently upset you so much.

Kind of a double standard, don’t you think?
Michelle

LOL! Nice – yes, Brendan didn’t catch on – but then again, he’s using data that is completely NON-comparable. Poor boy. Well, seeing that I have to be up shortly – it is time for me to say goodnight.

It has been another fun late night.
Til tomorrow!
Go South Dakota!! And Montana! Let’s kick butt!

Seattlemoss

Oh and Brendon us guys don’t like the way Obama and Dean gamed the system either.
I knew from the beginning that Obama was unelectable and tried to warn you bots.

The Clinton coalition is what’s defecting to McCain and that’s half the party dude!

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

How did Obama and Dean “game the system,” exactly?

Seattlemoss

Dean gamed the system by punishing Florida and Michigan two states that were strong for Clinton. This was done by not punishing South Carolina which had a large AA vote and also moved up it’s primary. Dean even said that it was important to have a large AA state have a big initial impact on the nomination.By making Florida and Michigan Beauty contests took the momentum away from Clinton.
Obama used Chicago gangland tactics to game the Caucuses which I witnessed first hand.
I can go on Brendon, but if you don’t get it by now I guess you can just wait till Nov to see the fruits of these tactics.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Brendan you shouldn’t waste your bridge time here. Seriously. We despise Barack Obama.
Northwest rain

Go to hell Obamabot — there will NEVER be a bridge.

I hate all Obamabots — you are a bunch of male chauvinist pigs — even the so called females among you ass holes.

GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!
http://therealistblogs.blogspot.com/ troy m

Isn’t that what the Germans did?
beebop

Way to late. No one on “your side” was defending women when “vaginas” were “cunts” and so were women. One vote is now discounted 50 percent? This is the “new” Democratic party? I give it as much hopey as the “new” Coke!

so saddened

yes, we have, brendan. you don’t want hillary on the ticket because of typical obamaloon clinton hatred, etc.

we don’t want hillary on the ticket because that’s the only way obambi would have a chance of winning.

in november, the country will elect hillary if she’s the nominee or mccain if obambi’s the nominee.

obambi can go back to the senate and hope the remaining tatters of his phony image will be enough to let him keep his seat, assuming he stays out of jail.

jessie

He will run for Gov. of Illinois and will be the new “Black Liberation King” and I am not even joking about that. I doubt Rev. Wright even wants him to win because then there goes his “the white man keeps me down” theory.

The idiots have been saying Hillary will not keep her senate seat. What bullshit. I guess they don’t realize how many Puerto Ricans live in New York. And for the first time on television someone addressed the brown/black division. Paul Rodriguez said it and I know Geraldo cringed but it needs to be said.

The scab needed to be pulled off the democrats. It remains to be seen what comes from the bleeding.

NO OBAMA/MARXIST
HILLARY OR MCCAIN 2008

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Jessie, Hillary would never lose her senate seat. She’s a 70 percenter and that’s not just among latinos. Anybody who thinks NY doesn’t love Hillary is playing with himself in the dark.

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

saddened:

we don’t want hillary on the ticket because that’s the only way obambi would have a chance of winning.

You’d truly rather have McSame as president than any Democrat? Why?

If you think that’s the way to get Hillary elected in 2012, I think you’re misjudging the likelihood of that ever happening.

jessie

Brendan,

Uh, yes. Why you here? Hillary and Bill should tell the party to kiss their ass. They have done so much in life they should just sit back now and enjoy life and stop worrying about people who obviously don’t give a shit about anything they have ever done for for the party.

And no more fundraising for the likes of the New Democratic Party. How much money do you think Bill helped raise for the party over the years.

Its always what have you done for me lately.

F*k you New Democratic Party.

NO OBAMA/MARXIST
HILLARY OR MCCAIN 2008
Michelle

Because Obama is an inexperienced, huckster – and we have already had 8 years of that.

You folks need to realize that we chose experience over change MONTHS ago – long before anything ever came out about Obama – and now (post-Wright, post-Pfleger, post-Rezko, post-Ayers), we’re even more scared of his “change” than before.

You just don’t get it – to fix this government that Bush broke – we need an insider and a good bureaucrat – not an outsider and a bulls**ter.
so saddened

brendan, sweetie, maybe uppity’s message didn’t enter your brain, so i’ll repeat it – this is not just pro-hillary. it’s anti-obambi. STRONGLY anti-obambi. i’d vote for the dead nixon before i’d vote for obambi.

like obamabots love to do, you misquote me – i did not say i’d rather have mccain than “any democrat.” i did say i’d rather have mccain than obambi. i’d vote hillary over mccain. i’d vote biden over mccain. i’d vote gore or edwards over mccain, even though they’re not my favorites. i could go on. but the point is that i would vote mccain over obambi. whether you or the other obamabots understand or agree is completely irrelevant to me. i have no need for you to understand, i have no need to explain, i have no need for you to believe. it is what it is.

i’d like to see hillary in 2012. but this has nothing to do with that. i simply want to save our country from the disaster that would be an obambi presidency.
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

To your first question, yes. I truly would. I believe very strongly that Barack Obama is a Marxist.

…and I think you are misjudging the likihood of anything. I think you are misjudging the liklihood of barack obama being president too. As for Hillary, the I TOLD YOU SO campaign will occur. Listen, the party keeps marginalizing itself by trying to put too far left people in the electorate’s face. They never learn from experience. That’s why they have only elected TWO presidents in 40 years. What part of this picture can you not see?

The majority of this party is moderate. They don’t want left wing whackjobs running the country. That’s why the party ends up marginalized. The last time, it was marginalized for so long that one man resurrected it, and now they are angry at him for doing so. They never learn.

I am telling you that enough of the democrats will not accept barack obama’s associations and affiliations–and they will vote Republican as they have in the past when we have tried to give them characters like Obama. I mean they voted for NIXON just to get rid of McGovern. How bad is that?

Politics has been in my blood for a long long time. A lonnnnnnng time. It’s not just a hobby with me. Without getting into detail, I am not just a casual observer. I recognize Obama as a serious loser in the General Election. I have absolutely no doubt he will lose. He will take a spike after he is nominated, that’s normal. That’s IF he gets to August without a serious skeleton falling out of his closet. A lot can happen between June and August. It wouldn’t be the first time. Should no serious skeleton occur, then he is a loser in the GE for certain.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Wouldn’t matter to me one way or another. I still wouldn’t vote for him. For me it’s as much about Obama as it is about Clinton. I would vote for a cockroach before I would vote for Barack Obama. Doesn’t matter who his VP choice is, he would still be making the Marxist decisions. I wouldn’t vote for him if he picked my mother as his VP.
cynic454

Seeing that Obama always had someone do his work for him (Emil Jones, anyone?) we don’t want Hillary to carry his load while he goes around spouting empty rhetoric.

Of course, you NY types know nothing about Chicago politics. We Chicagoans *sigh* do. We remember Alice Palmer, and all the other dirty politcs that continue to be played here.

I’ve ananlyzed every record, every interview, every speech, all the baggage and history of all three candidates. Hillary stands out above the others. McCain is my second choice – Obama is too far left and his record severly lacking, aside from being a dirty politician.

jessie

Pretty sure Bill took care of the VP spot today by what he said to the reporters. Yikes they are pissed off in Obama/Marxist Land. Ed Schultz is now on my list of people I cannot stand. Of course, Mika Brzezinki is still at the top along with her father Zbig and her brother. Donna Brazile makes me sick but her time will come soon.

As much as I want Hillary I will not vote for any ticket with Obama/Marxist (yeah, I cant stop saying it) on it and I am glad the party is imploding because it needs to if it is going to be taken over by George Soros, etal.

I went to the McCain townhall today first time ever going to a repub anything. The Obama/Marxist supporters were wearing Bush masks (can’t they come up with anything original) it was so hot outside they were dying cuz we were waiting in line outside.

The Obama/Marxist people were chanting and acting stupid and trying to get the repubs off the sidewalk where they were waiting in line. The repubs were just being nice and not saying anything. Being the good ex-democrat that I am I got right in their face and told them what I thought. Then I said Oh, yeah, I am a democrat and Hillary supporter so how is that for party unity and put that on your friggin youtube.

I feel at this point the party is fractured and I will not be silent. Do these new democrats not realize that we have been rallying for a long time and know how to get our point across. We marched for years for the party and now I will march to defeat the party if it has Obama/Marxist on the ticket.

F*ck the New Democratic Party.

NO OBAMA/MARXIST
HILLARY OR MCCAIN 2008

NO OBAMA/MARXIST
HILLARY OR MCCAIN 2008

Michelle

The only good news about going to the McCain rallies is that most of the men are better looking and they ALL look like they took showers that day.

Lillian

Gosh Michelle! You’re too funny!!!
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

And you won’t smell Bong smoke on their clothing.
BrandngIron

LOLOLOLOL!!!
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

And they have already developed beards. And they shave them!

Seattlemoss

Jessie
Can you tell me what Bill said to reporters about the VP slot?

jessie

Its on huffscag they peeing all over themselves. They hate Bill. I would link it but I don’t want to put her links on here.

Mary

Here’s my thought: I think Clinton did it on purpose, so HIllary wouldn’t HAVE to be Obama’s VP.

Obama can dance with the ones who brung him.

Brazille told us the new Democratic Party doesn’t need us…..just stay home, she said.

Well, ok. ‘Cept I’m not staying home. I’m voting for John McCain.

And I’m smiling gleefully that Bill Clinton has removed any chance that Hillary might have to help Obama as his VP.

Obama won’t ask her, now.

And that means that when he goes down in flames in November, Hillary can’t be blamed.

Smart boy, our BIG DOG.

so saddened

agree. f them.

they delude themselves into thinking we’ll come around.

they won’t believe us when we say no.

they will believe us in november.

hillary or mccain. no other option.

Penny

There is a new website for us. democrats-against-obama.org spread the word!
Penny

There is a new website for us. democrats-against-obama.org spread the word!

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Hillary wouldn’t be caught standing next to the guy when he goes down. And the only way he won’t go down is with her. She knows that and so does he. I am sure she never had any designs on being his “bridesmaid”. That’s the slot where the superior woman would get to do all the work for the mediocre man, while he gets to prance around and take credit. That’s very Corporate America. The idea that she wants the VP slot was created by the media not by Hillary. All she will have to do is sit it out for four years under the Old Man. He will be too old to chase her around the campaign trail by then and Obama will be in the political graveyard with Dukakis, where he belongs. Nope. I never believed for a second she wants anything whatsoever to do with an Obama race.

Seattlemoss

I sure would like McCain to pick Hillary but I know I’m dreaming.
I think McCain/Fiorina would be a nice ticket

In 2012 Hillary vs Carly

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

I’m sorry but I don’t see domestic policy similarities between McCain and clinton at all. I just don’t see the two of them teaming up. He’s slightly left of the right cliff and she’s slightly left of center.

treading water

..and don’t forget, Hill asked him early on to be her VP- he hemmed and hawwed, didn’t want to answer but it was clear,no. He knows he is totally toast! (pass the butter)He can’t win w/o her and we won’t vote with him the top of the ticket and he already said no to vp with Hill on top-yup-he is toast! burnt toast now that I think of it!!

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Ah she was pulling his skinny leg. She wouldn’t want him anymore than he wants her.

treading water

so true..but she did bring out a hint of his true nature!

Ai1een

I love it! -

http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard nedich

Clinton aid says fight will go on…

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Clinton_aides_rallying_donors_floating_convention_fight_August_and_no_earlier.html

don’t give up to the vote stealing scum…
Kinky Ogremann

There’s no way Obama can win and I hope Hillary is able to pull out a win in both SD and Montana.

A puzzling question —

To anyone who knows more about Black Liberation Theology:

I heard a religious scholar state that BLT can be characterized by three core beliefs that define the religion:

1) All sins and evils in the Black community is a result of white racism (starting right after Adam and Eve and the first sin – everything after that, is because of the ills the white man has brought on blacks everywhere).

2) A twisted belief in indoctrinating the belief of “perpetual victimization” among Blacks, so much to the point of ignoring all Black progress to push forward this belief (ie. don’t talk about/ignore Civil Rights, many Black successful leaders, wealthy individuals, etc).

3) Lastly, a belief in a Marxist theology of the redistribution of wealth in many forms. This last one is a bit fudgy as it can go from benign requests for some Slave Reparations all the way to a dramatic demand for a shift to Communism and overthrow of the current government. (If this last one is true, that really help explains the Nation of Islam, William Ayers, Farrakhan, Wright and Obama connection).

It would really help if someone who has studied BLT explained these things in light of Obama’s disturbing past and his church’s obvious practice of Black Liberation Theology and praise of the Nation of Islam (clarification on the Nation of Islam would be appreciated too).

Thank you.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Reverend Wright had no problem taking 15 million in grant money over the past decade though. I’m pretty sure all of that wasn’t just black taxpayer money.

Frankly, I would be shocked if the IRS isn’t on his tail right now.

treading water

with all the political rhetoric that has been going on in that “church” the IRS should be having a field day! And I hope they investigate the 10mil credit extended to Wright for his new mansion too!

cynic454

Start at Black Agenda Report.com. they have some links and interesting articles. Google search: Black Liberation Theology, Cone. Wikipedia also has a description – not sure how concise it is.

rosaleen

Uh oh! O’Reilly hates him but look and listen closely to the name O’Reilly is trotting out for these segments: “Talking Points Memo” he says and it says “Talking Points” in the frame beneath BO’r.

I’ll bet Josh Marshall is unhappy about that. He sued someone once for using that. He claimed he owned that chain of words. He found out he didn’t. Now BO’r is using it and has been since April it appears. Meow!

Has this been noticed and I missed it?

Here’s the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfsCQjMH6ug

http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

rosaleen:

The O’Reilly Factor started in 1996. Josh’s site launched in 2000. I’m pretty sure O’Reilly has been using the phrase since inception, and certainly for years before this past April.
A

O’Reilly has been using “Talking Points” since I can remember. Definitely for a very long time.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

I always crack up when the media claims a patent on words and phrases.

Seattlemoss

Black liberation theology also believes that whites are the weaker of the species and needs to be overthrown.
They also believe that Jesus was black and crucified by white Europeans. The same as what’s happening to them today so says Rev Phleger.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

I am sure the Republicans will have no problem making the electorate understand the BLT is. By then they will be rushing to the polls in a panic.

rosaleen

Liberation theology came after the Vatican Council Decree that was so liberal. Way back, maybe in the sixties, I think. I’m sorry I’m not that up on the terminology. But liberation theology is another onward Christian warrior deal no matter how you look at it but you also can’t deny that liberation theology, especially as it was practiced in Latin America, benefited some villages and indigent peoples, some just plain old poor people.

That’s what those priests and nuns were up to down there when they were getting raped and murdered by
Ronnie Rayguns’s goons.

Apparently it’s evolved in some African American communities into something pretty unhopeful and ugly.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

Black Liberation Theology was coined in 1968 by a crackpot named Cone. The year 68 runs itself throughout this campaign in case you haven’t noticed, up to and including Recreate 68. 1968 was a horribly turbulent year and apparently, all the left over hippies who never got off the bong are longing for the crash, loot, club and burn that came with it.

It was also an interesting convention. The kind that gave us Nixon.

Becky

I donated 25$ to Hillary .Emailed all the Ohio delegets.Last chance to ask them to vote for Hillary.Took my Dem survey told them where to shove it and sent it back.I feel better , you all should try it.Becky
ron

I donated 25$ to Hillary .Emailed all the Ohio delegets.Last chance to ask them to vote for Hillary.Took my Dem survey told them where to shove it and sent it back.I feel better , you all should try it.Becky
http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/ Brendan

UW, saddened, Michelle, et al:

Got to go. An interesting conversation. Thanks.
JB

rosaleen, BOR has been using that since at least 2002, maybe earlier.

“F*ck the New Democratic Party.”

I like the unDemocratic party, has a nice ring to it.

Here’s how I see it: yes, we need unity in this country. But Obama can only divide us further.

The only ones who can unite us are decent, fairminded Democrats like you who value American principles and traditions above partisan labels. Ironically, Obama has given America the opportunity to unite — but only by REJECTING him in a broad, bipartisan manner in November. When this happens an era of mutual respect will begin. We will all be Americans first, partisans second. The old hatreds and suspicions will be softened, and healing from the Clinton-Bush years can begin.

Room 101

I like the unDemocratic party, has a nice ring to it.

Affirmative Democratic Action Party sounds about right to me.

treading water

Obama’s problem with BLT is only strengthened through his relationship(long-standing)with Ayers. Both Wright and Ayers teach liberation theology, Wright based on Cone, Ayers based on Paulo Freire. Obama has had over twenty years of this indoctrinaton-he is a very dangerous man and should never be allowed to get to the WH

Room 101

Ayers, Dohrn, the SDS and Weather Underground viewed whites as the oppressors.

The common theme among many of the Anointed One’s cohorts is an authoritarian government to replace our current “oppressive” system… take down the US of KKKA. Black Liberation Theology, Marxism, and Islam all play the “victim card”.

Kinky Ogremann

Just an afterthought -

I’m beginning to understand a lot more about Obama’s behavior when viewed from his religious belief in Black Liberation Theology –
from Wright’s and Pfleger’s remarks, it’s clear they hold very sexist views, even misogynistic ones, toward women. It is clearly a paternalistic structure for them. Seeing how many Islamic countries treat their women, this fits right in.

I now understand Obama’s treatment of Hillary, his campaign’s style, his treatment of women that he meets and the “sweetie” remarks, as well as other more egregious behaviors and actions (no need to rehash, everyone knows what they are). He truly believes women are less than men and need to be “guarded”, maybe even “ruled” by men. I highly doubt he believes they are equal or should be treated as such (hence his asking of a Black female leader to step aside for a male candidate) – in turn, the women in the church take on submissive roles to fit in with the indoctrination from the church.

It all makes sense now! WOW! BLT explains so many of Obama’s behavior and actions. He is truly a lost child desperately searching for the approval of an absent father who deserted him so early on in his life. Growing up and feeling like an outsider because of his skin color in his all-white household didn’t help either. He desperately longs for paternal figures and found it in the radical teachings of BLT and Nation of Islam, as well as his need to belong to a community, a Black community of which his ancestry did not match. Kinda sad if it wasn’t so scary due to the result of those radical political beliefs…

Ai1een

I’m not sure – Michelle Obama doesn’t exactly look or act obsequious when around BO. In fact, she looks like she rather rules the roost, but Wright on that Sean Hannity YouTube from a few years ago actually states that his church is based upon Cone’s Black Liberation Theology so and he repeats that fact over and over and over – so that theology is definitely there – no question about that – just not sure about the MO part.

Kinky Ogremann

Good point on MO – I’ll concede that point. But his treatment of OTHER women definitely is more in line with sexism. Maybe when someone knows all your dirty secrets and can destroy you (like MO does) – you gotta treat them with some respect?
beebop

Michelle IS his black heritage and his mother … she is an anchor of a lot of the things that BO is missing from his childhood … he is terribly under developed emotionally!

http://paganpower.wordpress.com/ PaganPower

He won’t close the deal after the end of the primary tonight either. Affirmative Action is exactly the right term for his candidacy.
Blk4hillary

wow. its kind of hard to hold serve and co-defend hillary with some of you. What happen to the delegates has nothing to do with affirmative action. I will say that I think Hillary is better prepared to be president would be ready to tackle the problems we face. As far as Obama goes, he isnt ready in my mind to lead but even if he were, comments like yours which exudes racist undertones gives me my rational that an Obama win is impossible. I dont trust white Americans to install a black man president. And look at the evidence here, white democrats are basically playing the race card against obama to make an argument. Thats Pretty sad.

Kinky Ogremann

You’re right that what happened had nothing to do with affirmative action – but I think if you looked at it honestly, you can understand why it can be viewed as such. After all, one premise of aff. action used in awarding spots on universities is that oftentimes, less academically qualified candidates are awarded more points based on race in order to increase their chances of getting into that school. Here, Obama, a much less qualified candidate by any measure and by anybody, is awarded 4 additional delegates that he did not earn, but given so that he can increase his chances of securing the nomination. There are obvious parallels in that.

Many of us here probably even actually support aff. action as in some areas, this is the only way to provide opportunities to many different ethnic groups and increase diversity in top universities.

We appreciate your support for Hillary, and I’m sure many would greatly appreciate your unique perspective. In fact – you cited you saw signs of racism, I think we would all very much appreciate it if you could state specifically where you’ve seen it (as change can’t happen unless we know what’s wrong). Personally, I’ve never heard anyone on here use derogatory racist language towards Obama that isn’t immediately condemned, or cite his race as disqualification from office. Often it is quoting actual substantial facts about his character, associations, and lack of experience. Many of us have often even backed Black candidates in the past – we just ask that they have actual experience and accomplishments behind them (Mayor Nutter comes to mind). Please do help us understand your perspective for that is the only way we can all grow – and I mean this in the most honest, non-derogatory way because if we really did make what you called “racist” statements, we want to avoid it in the future as that’s not a reflection of who we are. Thank you.
mimi

Blk4Hillary,

I’m AA too. Don’t get involved with the semantics. They are saying the same thing as you are by using the phrase as a metaphor to back up their contention that Obama is NOT qualified or ready to be president.

You are being unnecessarily overprotective about the concept of Affirmative Action. You’re doing the same thing that the Obama campaign did with regard to Geraldine Ferraro’s remarks. It’s a way of stoking up a visceral response among blacks and keep rational discussion from happening.

Black person-to-black person, I ask you this: would the Democratic Party leaders allowed a one-term white male Senator with the same resume as Obama’s to throw his hat in the Primary ring? Personally, I doubt it! They’d have taken him into the back room and given him a garden whipping. Now we may not like having this conversation with other whites, but you and I know that this is the truth.

Also, Obama will be pandering soon to white Republican voters so AAs better be prepared to hear some things they won’t like. And Affirmative Action will be among them.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com ** President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

The Commissioners endorsed Hillary because Hillary WILL BE the nominee.

Patience, everyone.
the jackal

You sure are one racist prick. It shows so badly on you and your bloggers WHAT a country of insane assinine people.IF you knew shit,you would also know that congress makes and passes bills,presidents endore or do not endore them. Presidents can also be impeached. Obama will be a figure head nothing more.
pull your heads out of your asses clean off the stink and think.
He can’t mess it up much more,and Cheatry Clinton would definatly put us in the poor house.
And a question to all you so called smart people,even the smart LOL guy who writes this bullshit.
WE vote for the president and the vice is picked from the running mate
Did you and all your intelligence realize the DAR MANUAL for CITIZENSHIP and the CONSTITUTION state that the people pick the PRESIDENT and when that is done THEY PICK THE VICE PRESIDENT. When was the last time you picked the VICE PRESIDENT. Now I have given you something viable to bitch about. OBAMA, HILLORY, MCCAIN IT does not matter because the VICE is PICKED not chosen . This invalidates the GOVERNMENT. FIGURE THIS OUT and FIX THIS PROBLEM, LET’S see you do something with all your FBI conections

It’s Not Me

Keep sweating about the whitey tape, because it’s coming! DEMOCRAT Bob Beckel mentioned it today and said he believes it[s TRUE and he believes the tape exists. Your unqualified, DANGEROUS antisemitic, anti-white guy is going down in flames, you dumb ass.

Kiss my ass.
mimi

Ah….. the jackal name says it all!

Thanks for the comments, they help our heels dig further in.

It’s Not Me

Well I’ll be! This can’t be true! The MSM talking heads haven’t said squat about these endorsements today. Honestly, only Obamarhoid gets endorsements…Hillary never gets any, so this can’t possibly be true.

GO, HILLARY! Take this fight to the convention! PLEASE! By then, everyone will have had their fill of BO and Michelle and all their lies.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com ** President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

Hillay supporters: this amazing video is Terry on Morning Joe yesterday.

Susan or Larry: You might want to embed this video and start a thread!

Terry explains what the campaign will be doing this week and you will like it!

http://deleted Caya

That was great to see,
Thanks!

harley

“Affirmative action injection?” Jesus. Just what the Democratic Party needs. Hateful thinwits fermenting bitter grievances with racism and stupidity.

Is hard to type while wearing a white sheet?

mimi

Harley,

It’s that kind of racist hyperbole that only makes our case! Btw, I’m black! So the only sheets I own are the ones I sleep on.

You think calling people the KKK because they voice an opinion against your candidate is justifiable? It wreaks of the most insidious kind of race-baiting I’ve ever seen and coming from white leftwingers no less.

You all have trivialized the very real problem of racism that will damage the AA community for decades. And this could have only happened because of a biracial candidate with no real connection to the AA community except thru the daughters he sired leading the pack.

No real AA would have played this kind of racial politics.

So go away. You don’t know any black people and could care less about our issues. You have your own agenda and you’re exploiting the desperation of an entire community still caught in the very real throes of the effects of racism and institutional racism just to get Barack Obama elected.

I despise you people. And I’m going to do my part to make sure he doesn’t get elected including using my bilingual skills in the latino community to campaign against him. You saw what happenened in Puerto Rico didn’t you? Ya empieza!

harley

Okay, just looked thru the comments. It’s fairly astounding. Rabid comments about hippies and bongs, 1968, Marxists and Black Liberation Theology. This is meant as comedy right? You’re actually trying to parody some of the more insensate wingtard sites? Yes? No?

I’m assuming the racism is primarily confined to loonbints like Uppity Woman — and Larry, if you read this stuff, I may disagree with some of your conspiracy theories, but allowing her to post here is shameful and wholly out of character with much of your past work — but it’s rapidly appearing that her various psychopathic hatreds are contagious.

I’d suggest giving her and all that hatred a wide berth. Much as you would if you saw her raving on a street corner. Which is, naturally, where she belongs.

Hanna

Troll alert. Why does it seem that every single Troll tries to take a bite out of Uppitty? Hello Trolls News Alert – when you do that you we ignore your posts because they we see them for what they are just hate filled babble junk – and you can take that hate filled babble and sit with it day after election day and weep as we put McCain over the top.
You Obamabots are one non-stop laughter machine!

Amalia

CNN discussion of gas prices says Soros to testify at Congress re that
because he is in hedge funds which are responsible for the high
gas prices.

so, he makes the gas prices high, uses the money for Obambi,
then his candidate decries the high prices.

incredible.
Surge07

It’s over. The evacuation has begun.
Harley

Hanna,

Here’s a link to your new home.

http://www.freerepublic.com/home.htm

Enjoy.
Judy

I was a Hillary supporter, but if she does not get nomination then this becomes about something more serious – saving this country from the likes of Barack Obama.

He may think we are idiots – I don’t have membership there any more but we see through the lies and deception – WE KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT BARACK OBAMA.

We must fight for our country and our rights.

We cannot rest until Obama is defeated
jessie

When I went to the McCain townhall yesterday as predicted there were 95% white and a good mixture of what I would call pretty well off and conservatives.

I laughed my butt off when a woman said to me:

“He is a muslim.” This was not a crackpot type of person and she was serious. I could not believe she said that and it just goes to show you that he can make up flyers with crosses coming out of his butt and there are so many people who really do believe he is a muslim.

Are they misinformed – yeah probably. But that is something he will not be able to deal with because with his name it appears to a large amount of people that he is muslim. I did not even attempt to correct her that is his problem.

When he choose to go from Barry to Barack well what did he expect. I know the Obama/Marxist types dont appreciate the average American who eats at say like Cracker Barrel but when you go into small towns across the country and listen there is no way they would want someone they perceive as anti-American.

Do I think they are correct? I will not even waste my time tryint to figure it out. I am just saying take away the bitter comments, the Black Liberation Theology of hating whitey and America and just the fact that his name to them is associated with the other guy – call it whatever you want but they will not vote for him.

So, these Obamicans that he speaks of I would say they are very few. If he cannot even get one party together as the great uniter, how does he think he will get the rest of the country.

I know Obama/Marxist does not see this because I feel like he has not thought ahead he only sees the world through his “progressive far left Marxist” eyes but the vast majority of America is not extreme left. He can feel secure with his followers idolizing him but outside of that warm fuzzy place where they all faint when he blows his nose, I assure you there is no deep love for you Obama/Marxist.

Just the facts for the New Democratic Party stop like someone earlier posted nominating extreme left elites and you may one day get someone else beside Bill Clinton in the White House.

I hope Hillary and Bill tell the party to f*ck off.
I know the Obama/Marxist want them out so they can have control.

There will be no unity.

OBAMA/MARXIST
HILLARY OR MCCAIN 2008
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s martinez

I agree. Roe v Wade isn’t going anywhere. Vote McCain from a soon to be former Democrat.
kevin w

A Father/Daughter Talk

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself a very liberal Democrat, and was very much in favor of ‘the redistribution of wealth.’

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She did not even have time for a boyfriend, and did not really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, ‘How is your friend Audrey doing?’

She replied, ‘Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She’s always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn’t even show up for classes because she’s too hung over.’

Her wise father asked his daughter, ‘Why don’t you go to the Dean’s office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.’

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father’s suggestion, angrily fired back, ‘That wouldn’t be fair! I have worked hard for my grades! I have invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!’

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, ‘welcome to the Republican Party.???

and come november they will vote for McCain !!!
KEVIN W

Barack Hussein Obama & Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 08 does that sound real american?……………………………………….. yeah right the Musliums have come here to roost ……………………………………………………………………………………………….no Hussein vote for McCain !!!!