Comments on: What a Guy, What a Policeman, What an Example http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/ Sun, 27 May 2012 07:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Miss Malevolent http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1237235 Miss Malevolent Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:25:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1237235 If Obama is going to have a "beer summit" every time he puts his foot in his overly large mouth...he should invite George Bush Jr. back to be his sponsor at the AA meetings they should attend. If Obama is going to have a “beer summit” every time he puts his foot in his overly large mouth…he should invite George Bush Jr. back to be his sponsor at the AA meetings they should attend.

]]> By: elizabethrc http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1237217 elizabethrc Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:09:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1237217 Obama also needs to learn that this same ploy (having a beer and 'talking it over') are nothing without having knowledge of the facts and the depth and experience to understand what's at stake, who the players are and what the possible outcomes are...much like his approach to dealing with world leaders should have been, but wasn't. That's why his foreign trips have been nothing more than photo ops. Nothing accomplished because he is too ignorant and too shallow. He's out of his depth. Obama also needs to learn that this same ploy (having a beer and ‘talking it over’) are nothing without having knowledge of the facts and the depth and experience to understand what’s at stake, who the players are and what the possible outcomes are…much like his approach to dealing with world leaders should have been, but wasn’t. That’s why his foreign trips have been nothing more than photo ops. Nothing accomplished because he is too ignorant and too shallow. He’s out of his depth.

]]> By: elizabethrc http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1237213 elizabethrc Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:57:14 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1237213 Crowley is spinning nothing. He's been as straightforward about the events as he can be. I am not at all about to condemn him for misstating that the caller mentioned 2 black men. It's possible that in the midst of all the confusion and arguing going on, that he mkstakenly put down 'black'. Big deal!Did you ever make a mistake...which did not affect what happened nor the outcome? Gate's daughter just showed herself to be the same angry, arrogant black person her father is. He certainly taught her well, didn't he? What role models they are for the black community. Message to Harvard: You can do better. Your students deserve better. Fire Gates! Crowley is spinning nothing. He’s been as straightforward about the events as he can be. I am not at all about to condemn him for misstating that the caller mentioned 2 black men. It’s possible that in the midst of all the confusion and arguing going on, that he mkstakenly put down ‘black’. Big deal!Did you ever make a mistake…which did not affect what happened nor the outcome?
Gate’s daughter just showed herself to be the same angry, arrogant black person her father is. He certainly taught her well, didn’t he? What role models they are for the black community. Message to Harvard: You can do better. Your students deserve better. Fire Gates!

]]> By: lorac http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236984 lorac Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:45:25 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236984 Yeah, I don't agree with some people that if the color is obvious and they identify it, then that identification is racist. If I want a cop to help me, I'm going to give them all the information I have. It's information, it's not something racist! "As my father said on the plane yesterday morning on our way to the White House, “there are approximately 800,000 black men in prison and on July 16, 2009, I simply became one of them.”" The above quote is from Gates' daughter's essay. I just shook my head when I read that. She's totally implying that they're all in jail because of the police, not because of their own actions. Why, oh why, has everyone left MLK behind? Judging someone on their character (which can be observed through behavior).....! Yeah, I don’t agree with some people that if the color is obvious and they identify it, then that identification is racist. If I want a cop to help me, I’m going to give them all the information I have. It’s information, it’s not something racist!

“As my father said on the plane yesterday morning on our way to the White House, “there are approximately 800,000 black men in prison and on July 16, 2009, I simply became one of them.””

The above quote is from Gates’ daughter’s essay. I just shook my head when I read that. She’s totally implying that they’re all in jail because of the police, not because of their own actions.

Why, oh why, has everyone left MLK behind? Judging someone on their character (which can be observed through behavior)…..!

]]> By: elizabethrc http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236873 elizabethrc Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:09:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236873 And now everyone is racing around willy-nilly trying to say that his possible misspeak about 'two black men' shows that he is a racist! You people who believe this rubbish are just undereducated fools who will always see whites as oppressors in any situation involving blacks. The reason the majority in prison are black is because they commit the most crimes! Try to rewrite history all you want, facts are facts. Crowley's record is out there vis a vis race and efforts by biased little fools like Gate's daughter (the 'infamous' Crowley), only show how ignorant they are. I've had enough of this pussyfooting around blacks. It's time we call them like we see them...good, bad or ugly. And now everyone is racing around willy-nilly trying to say that his possible misspeak about ‘two black men’ shows that he is a racist! You people who believe this rubbish are just undereducated fools who will always see whites as oppressors in any situation involving blacks.
The reason the majority in prison are black is because they commit the most crimes! Try to rewrite history all you want, facts are facts.
Crowley’s record is out there vis a vis race and efforts by biased little fools like Gate’s daughter (the ‘infamous’ Crowley), only show how ignorant they are.
I’ve had enough of this pussyfooting around blacks. It’s time we call them like we see them…good, bad or ugly.

]]> By: jbjd http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236854 jbjd Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:28:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236854 OMG. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/07/obamas_revealing_body_language.html OMG.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/07/obamas_revealing_body_language.html

]]> By: Docelder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236781 Docelder Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:24:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236781 Yes, To me personally, I see the most important issue here as being individual rights in your own home. Speaking for these two players, I wonder if either of them even knows or cares much for that. These two players I think conflicted because of social class. The officer thought the professor didn't mind him because he was an elite professor... and the professor assumed the policeman was harassing him due to race. In the end, the one with the most authority won as he just arrested the other. But, I think the conflict was mostly about class. The professor would rather it be race, and at this point the officer is playing up how hard it is to be a cop bit to keep support from the department and union. It's the he's not white, he's blue bit. The side story of the separate officer and the email really highlights the abuse of power issue fully. Yes, To me personally, I see the most important issue here as being individual rights in your own home. Speaking for these two players, I wonder if either of them even knows or cares much for that. These two players I think conflicted because of social class. The officer thought the professor didn’t mind him because he was an elite professor… and the professor assumed the policeman was harassing him due to race. In the end, the one with the most authority won as he just arrested the other. But, I think the conflict was mostly about class. The professor would rather it be race, and at this point the officer is playing up how hard it is to be a cop bit to keep support from the department and union. It’s the he’s not white, he’s blue bit. The side story of the separate officer and the email really highlights the abuse of power issue fully.

]]> By: NomNomNom http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236770 NomNomNom Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:53:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236770 also unaddressed the expansionist policies in police surveillance and limits of allowable force: http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/04/07/18586797.php anti-dragnet surveillance suit Jewell v NSA http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/07/28-9 cops taser and pepper spray deaf disabled man in restroom stall for taking too long. http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/20/illinois-officers-sued-for-unprovoked-tasering/ Illinois cops taser kids, choke and lock girl who begs them to stop in closet None of these guys were found to have engaged in inappropriate police procedure also unaddressed the expansionist policies in police surveillance and limits of allowable force:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/04/07/18586797.php anti-dragnet surveillance suit Jewell v NSA
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/07/28-9
cops taser and pepper spray deaf disabled man in restroom stall for taking too long.
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/20/illinois-officers-sued-for-unprovoked-tasering/
Illinois cops taser kids, choke and lock girl who begs them to stop in closet
None of these guys were found to have engaged in inappropriate police procedure

]]> By: oowawa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236764 oowawa Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:35:32 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236764 <blockquote>he managed to turn a local brouhaha into a national brew ha ha</blockquote> Worthy of framing. This amateur weisenheimer is in awe.

he managed to turn a local brouhaha into a national brew ha ha

Worthy of framing. This amateur weisenheimer is in awe.

]]> By: mountainaires http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236761 mountainaires Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:28:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236761 Sgt James Crowley is a 16-year-veteran of the police force, with no record of discrimination based on race; for the past 5 years, he's worked to teach police officers to respect all cultures and races and to avoid racial profiling. That means: <strong>Sgt. Crowley knows how to be respectful and professional, and to avoid racial profiling, right?!</strong> Yet, Professor Gates expects us to believe that <strong>suddenly, out of the blue, for the first time in his entire career</strong> Sgt. Crowley was a racist? <strong>Only the stupid and the credulous would believe Professor Gates. </strong> Sgt James Crowley is a 16-year-veteran of the police force, with no record of discrimination based on race; for the past 5 years, he’s worked to teach police officers to respect all cultures and races and to avoid racial profiling.

That means: Sgt. Crowley knows how to be respectful and professional, and to avoid racial profiling, right?!

Yet, Professor Gates expects us to believe that suddenly, out of the blue, for the first time in his entire career Sgt. Crowley was a racist?

Only the stupid and the credulous would believe Professor Gates.

]]> By: mountainaires http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236759 mountainaires Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:27:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236759 Sgt James Crowley is a 16-year-veteran of the police force, with no record of discrimination based on race; for the past 5 years, he's worked to teach police officers to respect all cultures and races and to avoid racial profiling. That means: <strong>Sgt. Gates knows how to be respectful and professional, and to avoid racial profiling, right?!</strong> Yet, Gates expects us to believe that <strong>suddenly, out of the blue, for the first time in his entire career</strong> Sgt. Gates was a racist? <strong>Only the stupid and the credulous would believe Professor Gates. </strong> Sgt James Crowley is a 16-year-veteran of the police force, with no record of discrimination based on race; for the past 5 years, he’s worked to teach police officers to respect all cultures and races and to avoid racial profiling.

That means: Sgt. Gates knows how to be respectful and professional, and to avoid racial profiling, right?!

Yet, Gates expects us to believe that suddenly, out of the blue, for the first time in his entire career Sgt. Gates was a racist?

Only the stupid and the credulous would believe Professor Gates.

]]> By: Kathleen Wynne http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236757 Kathleen Wynne Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:19:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236757 I would feel alot better about Crowley if he had not written in his report that Ms Whalen had stated that she saw "two black men" breaking into the house. If this was human error, then he should have immediately corrected it, since his report was the reason why the media went after Ms. Whalen and then she was attacked as a racist and even threatened. He threw her under the bus to make himself look like the perfect officer. He wouldn't have been at the WH without her intervention as a good citizen. In fact, she is the only one who deserves an apology from obama, gates and crowley. I don't say he's not a good guy, but I do believe a really good guy would never have let this woman be the victim of these kinds of attacks against her integrity and character while knowing all the time that she never stated anything about two black men. It seems now to me by his silence that he used the "two black guys" reference in the report in order to cover his ass. Without the tapes to vindicate her, she would probably have never been believed and Crowley's report would have been viewed as the truth. Since the democratic primary and the treatment of Hillary and then Sarah Palin, I can no longer give the guys a free pass and let the woman take the hit for the guys acting "stupidly". I would feel alot better about Crowley if he had not written in his report that Ms Whalen had stated that she saw “two black men” breaking into the house.

If this was human error, then he should have immediately corrected it, since his report was the reason why the media went after Ms. Whalen and then she was attacked as a racist and even threatened. He threw her under the bus to make himself look like the perfect officer. He wouldn’t have been at the WH without her intervention as a good citizen. In fact, she is the only one who deserves an apology from obama, gates and crowley.

I don’t say he’s not a good guy, but I do believe a really good guy would never have let this woman be the victim of these kinds of attacks against her integrity and character while knowing all the time that she never stated anything about two black men. It seems now to me by his silence that he used the “two black guys” reference in the report in order to cover his ass. Without the tapes to vindicate her, she would probably have never been believed and Crowley’s report would have been viewed as the truth.

Since the democratic primary and the treatment of Hillary and then Sarah Palin, I can no longer give the guys a free pass and let the woman take the hit for the guys acting “stupidly”.

]]> By: Docelder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236753 Docelder Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:12:04 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236753 I would call it that too. But I think maybe Obama learned something about himself yesterday. He can't meet two people and will a resolution to their differences. Maybe he didn't know that before yesterday. I would call it that too. But I think maybe Obama learned something about himself yesterday. He can’t meet two people and will a resolution to their differences. Maybe he didn’t know that before yesterday.

]]> By: Docelder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236750 Docelder Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:08:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236750 Honestly, the officer is spinning this into some story of how hard it is to be a policeman. So, the professor wants to spin it into something about race. Both men have an agenda at this point. Neither are addressing what this was really about... social class and the way we interact to each other based on that class. The beer event was a bust, because there is no predetermined common ground. Obama may learn something from this, and it may help us in the long run. Things happen for a reason. He needs to learn, having a beer and a get together won't do any good unless there is a predetermined common ground. Honestly, the officer is spinning this into some story of how hard it is to be a policeman. So, the professor wants to spin it into something about race. Both men have an agenda at this point. Neither are addressing what this was really about… social class and the way we interact to each other based on that class. The beer event was a bust, because there is no predetermined common ground. Obama may learn something from this, and it may help us in the long run. Things happen for a reason. He needs to learn, having a beer and a get together won’t do any good unless there is a predetermined common ground.

]]> By: mountainaires http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29256/what-a-guy-what-a-policeman-what-an-example/#comment-1236745 mountainaires Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:51:59 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29256#comment-1236745 <strong>Read this contemptuous, bitter, defense of her father by his daughter Elizabeth Gates at DailyBeast! I cannot believe how cruel she is to Crowley's 14-year-old daughter, and how contemptuous she is toward Sgt Crowley--calling him "infamous!" </strong> What a <strong>bitch! </strong> Elizabeth Gates and her father Professor Gates' excuses and bitter refusal to take responsibility for their own behavior, look more and more pathetic while<strong> Sgt. James James Crowley continues to inspire respect and admiration for his professional and respectful. </strong> <strong>Stay classy, Ms. Gates! </strong> [eye-rolling] <em>Right....</em> http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-31/what-i-saw-at-the-beer-summit/ Read this contemptuous, bitter, defense of her father by his daughter Elizabeth Gates at DailyBeast! I cannot believe how cruel she is to Crowley’s 14-year-old daughter, and how contemptuous she is toward Sgt Crowley–calling him “infamous!”

What a bitch!

Elizabeth Gates and her father Professor Gates’ excuses and bitter refusal to take responsibility for their own behavior, look more and more pathetic while Sgt. James James Crowley continues to inspire respect and admiration for his professional and respectful.

Stay classy, Ms. Gates!

[eye-rolling]

Right….

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-31/what-i-saw-at-the-beer-summit/

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