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Amid all the calls for party unity from the same folks that brought you a very undemocratic solution to Michigan and Florida, a new voice is beginning to be spoken. Loudly. And from many directions.

One website is already offering Democrats for McCain bumper stickers. Their motto is: You only thought we were bitter before!

dems 4 mccain

And then there is the wonderful new creation from Riverdaughter at The Confluence.

The Puma Party. Party Unity My Ass

PUMA

The action plan for PUMAs is:

1.) Dissociate yourself from the party. Tell them you will not be a party to its self destructive behavior.

2.) Reflect on your values. Read the credo at the top of this site and create at better one. Keep the language general and inclusive. Concentrate on universal truths and beliefs. Avoid wordsmithing.

3.) Stick together. We are powerful as a unit if we do not fall victim to the psychological warfare that is about to be directed at us. Turn off the media. Avoid conversations with trolls. Stand firm and do not yield.

4.) Remember that there is a better alternative. Hillary Clinton is the strongest candidate for the party and the nation. She has a lot of support out there. The nation will rally around her if we let them know we are not giving in. We must not let her concede one inch. Stand firm. Send her your good thoughts. Send her money. Do not give up.

5.) Spread the word.

And finally the fine folks at Democratic No More have began a campaign called Say Goodbye. It is a wonderful way to express to the rest of the country that you have had it with the Democratic Party and are not looking back. So please take the time to sign up.

One of my absolute favorite bloggers Uppity Woman says it best in her latest blog: Delusional Barack Obama. Baaarack

Because as I mentioned earlier in Screw You Roger Simon!, the Obama camp thinks we are all little sheep that will come running back to the fold. It is as if the anointed one really does believe that his very word is all we have been waiting to hear. According to them Obama isn’t even going to waste his time working for our votes. He sincerely believes we will follow him like the rest of his Cult. Delusional is Right Uppity. No other word even comes close.

Except perhaps Psychopath.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    Check out PUMApac

    Go PUMA

  • thenana1

    Good Morning!

    Obama, support him? Is that the question of the day?

    Want my answer…………NO WAY IN HELL! Want the job done right VOTE HILLARY!

    Hillary or McCain 08

  • Gamzulatov

    Okay so,

    I was an Obama supporter, but I have been visiting this site for a couple of days now and I think I am coming around. There are a few things that have helped me see the light.

    1)The existence of the damning tape. It is so obvious that this is real and not some kind of “sore loser” smear campaign. The fact that nobody has actually seen the tape just adds to its magic and mysticism.

    2) I have also been persuaded by all of the happy positive Hillary supporters I have met on these comment forums. You seem like a very positive bunch of folk who would rather tout the great qualities of Hillary (my new candidate) then spend all day making up terrible mean spirited things to say about that other guy (I won’t even say his name because he is so evil).

    3)I am into the whole whining and crying over my losses scene. I think people who say “man Up” or “grow a set of balls” are mysogynists. I believe I have every right to weep and throw a tantrum and I even bet Hillary is behaving the same way right now. I think my new friends on this board do a great job at showing that you don’t have to be tough or logical to win a campaign. We will take this thing to the heart of America and then to the whitehouse based solely on emotion. Then who will have the last laugh Mr. Obama/Jerk?

    4)I really like that guy in the upper right hand corner’s haircut. Whenever I visit this page I think “where would you get a haircut like that?”

    5)Most of all though the think that has brought me to my senses is this awesome video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UefSpWGD19k

    You know it is the “Hillary 4 You and Me” one. Man that ROX MY SOX! I ripped that thing to my ipod. I really believe it shows the true nature of Hillary supporters (of which I now consider myself). Anyone who says this video is Gay is definitely a homophobe or a racist or both and has probably never even been in a Gay club EVAH!

    So come on new friends! Lets take the whitehouse back for anti-abortion-war mongering-private healthcare lobbyist supporting republicans.

    And just to show you I am serious I came up with a clever name for Obama: Ostinka!

    Ostinka is a big jerk!

    Clinton/Mccain 08

  • kenoshaMarge

    I am a proud member of the PUMA Party. I do not know if I can ever go so far as to vote for a Republican but I do know that I cannot and will not vote for Obama. The Democratic Party I supported for over 40 years is no more. Perhaps it never was.

    If you believe that Obama and the DNC as well as the Democratic Party Leadership with the overwhelming dishonesty of the media has gamed this primary from start to finish and then vote for Obama you are in effect saying that you will reward bad behavior.

    Even the good Obama supporters, and I assume there must be a few here and there although I haven’t met any, should be appalled at what happened to MI and FL and most especially at the stealing of 4 Clinton delegates and giving them to Obama.

    After all the talk of the “rulz” the Demcratic RBC “fulz” broke the rules right there on national teevee in front of God and everybody.(Of course your pinheaded media pundits are too stupid or too currupt or both to point that out to the public they are supporsed to inform.)

    God help Democracy because the Democratic Party and the media sure as hell won’t.

  • http://perrylogan.org/ Perry Logan

    The only remaining question is, how badly will your guy screw up our chances in Congress?

  • Arabella Trefoil

    The official name is People United Means Action.

    Join PUMA. Keep fighting.

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    >>> Whenever I visit this page I think “where would you get a haircut like that?”

    Pete Rose’s barber!

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/ Gloria

    “A Party Held HOSTAGE: Michele Obama Wasn’t Alone in Her Hostility at the Rainbow/PUSH Conference in 2004–Protests Against Jesse Jackson, Threats Against Democrats/Kerry By Ministers in an Eerie Preview of the Rev. Wright Episode”

    http://tinyurl.com/4jealx

    PLEASE READ this whole piece!
    We are in big trouble…find out why this Obama enabling is all about APPEASEMENT by the Democratic Party.

    What I have found out is really disturbing!

    Have women been thrown over out of a move to appease blacks? And these blacks aren’t even real Democrats??

  • jyotinc

    I’m with you guys. Count me in.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    I am mystified at the arrogance of the ObamBam crowd!

    Do they really believe that those of us that are angered at the way we have been Ridiculed, Taunted, Bullied, Spit on, Shit on, Harrassed, Ignored, Dismissed and Tossed aside by not only The DNC but by those Infantile Trolls that serve the Cult of Obama, will all come together and make nice?

    The arrogance of this is stunning! The wounds are deep! The scars will never heal with some. The damage is done!

    I had hoped that there was some way that “something” would derail this so-called movement. I had hoped that the party would come to their senses. I was wrong.
    I know that some “TROLLS” will say I am bitter. No I am beyond bitter. I am angry!
    I am angry that I have to step aside so that the powers that be can attempt to wipe away whatever guilt they have and RAM this Idiot down our Throats!
    I am angry that I have to hear his code words about, “This Being Our Time”. I was not borne yesterday. I know what he means when he says that. This is affirmative action run amoke!
    Call me racist all you want. I know what I am and a racist i am not. A realist I am. I fear we will “ALL” regret this day.
    Obama and his crowd have set out to use his race from the very begining and now we are seeing the fruits of his labour. Either you vote for him or you are tarred with the label of being a bigot!

    If his crowd believes we will all come together this November, they are fatally mistaken.

  • yosyos

    You are the spoiled child who, when told they have to share their toy, decides to break it instead.

    You are the person who sees being seen as ‘right’ as more important than being right.

    You are the person who revels in doing damage, since you yourself are damaged.

    Trapped in an echo chamber of your own making.

  • hick in pa

    No longer will I support the Democratic Party! I will join each and every group to defeat Obama. The arrogance of Oblahblah and the DNC sickens me. Fall in line and support him?
    No way, I’m stuck in line buying Arugula! And only have time to cast my vote Against this fraud.

    Hillary/McCain

  • standard

    Payback time for being called a “fuckwad” and every other profane name, in the democratic blogs.

    Love the Pink Puma.
    That’s my party, now!

  • Justin

    I have really had it with the Obamabots. I turn on Air America this morning (because there isn’t much else in terms of talk radio here) and the show’s host and callers are lecturing “these women” who voted for Hillary about how a.) if you don’t vote for Obama, you’ll lose your reproductive rights and b.) if McCain wins, your children will be drafted into war. I am sick of the threats and blackmail, and the fact that the threats are directed solely at “women” — as if only women or a certain subset of women are the only people who could conceivably feel this way — only makes it that much more disgusting. Plus, I think they are starting to believe in their own creation: this cartoon image of McCain that is increasingly distant from how most people see him.

    I’d be more inclined to write-in or vote third party on principle, but if the purpose is to teach these wayward “progressives” a lesson and make sure Obama loses, and prevent such an inexperienced and unqualified candidate out of the White House, then voting for McCain would be the most direct way. I’m still not sure, but I’m leaning heavily in that direction. McCain would be smart to tack to the center and promise to tackle climate change, have a smart energy policy and appoint neutral O’Connor-like justices.

  • ckennedy

    You would actually vote for John McCain??? You people have gone completely over the edge. Sit back. Take a few deep breaths. And keep in mind that a lot of Republicans—for wildly divergent reasons—don’t even want McCain in the White House. Unbelievable. You think Hillary wants McCain in the White House? Think, people. Think back to before you decided Obama was the biggest threat to . . . whatever. Think about the two parties’ platforms, views, ideals. McCain is the default candidate from a weak and crazy field of Republicans. You can’t possibly be serious.

  • lorraine

    I will never vote for Obama. NEVER.
    I want Hillary to fight all the way to the Denver.
    All the talking heads, who force fed us Obama until we puked, now want unity. Forget it. Hillary has been trashed and bashed by media, newspapers,etc. I’m sick of them all. Unless Hillary gets the nomination i’m voting for McCain and I hope the hell he beats Obama.

  • http://deleted TheViking

    God, who let the f**king russian in here?

    That was very.. a…. smart, and… very… a, strategic. You know like one of those great russian chess players. hehe

    At first you think the comment is gonna go one way, then BAM! You turn it into a bunch of Obumabull. excellent. Slomadanmoalickca would be proud of your conformity and inability for individual thought.

    Yep, that was a smart one, it really was. You even gave Obuma a ruzksa name! How cute. You were made for each other. :)

    So tell me, doesn’t Obumi make you feel at home again? You know, like your back in marxist commie land?

    :)

  • WestPalm4Hillary

    Oh, sooo clever! Whew, I mean, at first I was like, “whoa! a Hillary supporter,” but then I was all like, “hahaha, this guy’s PRETENDING to be a Hillary supporter and saying absurd things to minimize and deflect from the fact that Obama can’t unite the party!” He fooled me!

    Wow man, I’ve NEVER seen that before! You’re super dee duper clever and original! Must have graduated from when of them fancy I-V league schools!

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Here we go….Trolls gone wild again.

    I realize ALL politicians have flaws. I realize that ALL politicians will do and say anything to get elected. I support my candidate with both eyes open.
    What “WE” are angry about, isnt the fact that he won…th efix was in after Iowa, what sticks in the craw of most of us is the fact that there was no “VETTING” of your “Savior”. Do the Math. After the shit about Rev. Wright, Rezco, Pfleger, he only won 2 out of the last 7 Primarys. He had to be helped across the finish line by so called “Super Delegates”!
    He would “NEVER” have made it past Iowa had the media done it’s job! Now I know you will say, “Hillary has Baggage”! Sure she did, but he baggage IS known! You still don’t know all there is to know about Barky! Shit, you can’t even give me a single thing he has done since coming to the Senate that is of worth! He sure didnt do a damn thing here in Illinois!
    So please…take your snarky ass, infantile remarks to a place where someone gives a damn….We sure as hell don’t! No one here has drank the Kool-Aid and we sure as hell KNOW who Barack Obama is!
    Good luck In Novemeber…you sure as shit will need it. It’s a general election not a primary!

  • WestPalm4Hillary

    The very fact that the most vile elements of the Republican party “don’t want” John McCain is precisely why I’m OK with him.

    Obama is to the Democrats what Huckabee is to the Republicans.

    WORK for your f*cking vote. The days of supporting any *sshat with a (d) next to their name is OVER.

    Deal with it now, or be shocked in November and threatening to move to Canada to get away from all the “idiot racist Americans.”

  • Angela Worden

    Bravo!!!

  • ckennedy

    This is affirmative action run amoke!
    Call me racist all you want. I know what I am and a racist i am not.

    Are you even listening to yourself? As if there’s some large policy machine recruiting from the underserved for presidential candidates? Please explain—because I don’t get it—your reasons for being so anti Obama.

    I’ll wait.

  • ulahane

    This should terrify you Obama zealots. We are, for the most part, long term Democrats and we consider Obama and his associates unacceptable. And though we here aren’t too many, we are representative of many, many more Democrats.

    You must think us completely ignorant of politics. The reasons some Republicans are hesitant about McCain are the reasons that we find him semi-tolerable. Don’t forget, just four years ago, John Kerry asked him to run as his vice-president.

  • http://deleted TheViking

    Exactly, the far-right repubs can’t stand McCain, so that make the pill easier to swallow.

    Hell! If Kerry thought he was ok to offer him the VP, then he can’t be all that bad ‘eh :)

  • WestPalm4Hillary

    Yeah, for real ya know? I mean, if they were so confident that Obama would win they wouldn’t be here, right?

    If they were so confident Obama could “unite the party, the nation, the world, and FINALLY, THE UNIVERSE” then they’d be doing whatever it is Obama’s coalition does all day.

  • standard

    I want a black and Pink Puma T shirt.
    Where can I buy one?

  • ulahane

    Wow, great minds do think alike! :-)

  • BluDawg

    The sounds of War grow near!

    “In peace there’s nothing so becomes a man
    As modest stillness and humility;
    But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
    Then imitate the action of the tiger:
    Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood.”

    William Shakespeare, “King Henry V”, Act 3 scene 1

    End the Obamanation!

  • LVII

    LOL, you all crack me up!

    Are you all really democrats? Do you know what a Mcain presidency would mean for women’s rights, union rights and the rights of teachers to teach? Do you know what it’ll mean for minority rights? Do you know what it’ll mean for our prestige around the world?

    And most important of all, do you know what it means for healthcare?

    Yes, we had a bitter primary season, but do not forget why you are a democrat and not a republican. Hilary Clinton is a great woman and I am proud that is a leader in my party. Vote for Obama, if not, enable Mcain and be happy that you’ll get more the last right years.

    Peace.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    I LIVE in His SENATE DISTRICT FOOL! I KNOW what he has nad hasnt done. I didnt come to this yesterday! I AM a Democratic Committee Man here in ILLINOIS! I have been to dinners with this man. I have asked him for help in my district. I got SHIT!
    I have been watching him since 1999, I have seen the devastation in the GHETTO he represents! Where was he when they needed him with RENT reform? where was he when those elderly folks died from Cold and from the HEAT? where was he when his wife’s hospital OVERCHARGED the poor? You tell me! where the FUCK was he? He claims to have done all this good…..I don’t know anyone in Chicago besides his Bundlers that say this shit! He has done FUCK for us here!
    Don’t lecture me on Obama! I had to BEG that assholes office to look into helping his “PEOPLE” and he did SHIT!

  • Gamzulatov

    Sorry about the repost I mispelled “except”.

    I didn’t want to sound like that Russian Obama Jerk!

    Or should I say Ostinka!

    PUMA PUMA PUMA

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    I received an email from the Clinton campaign this morning about supporting Obama. I immediately unsubscribed. If she gives him her mailing list, I don’t want to start getting emails from his crowd.
    The President of BET Entertainment was on Fox this morning talking about how the Congressional Black Caucus is trying to talk Obama into making Hillary his VP, because Obama needs her votes to win. Really? During the campaign La Brazile told us that they could win without our votes. Maybe a bit of reality juice got mixed in with the KoolAid last night.
    My sister called and told me that if Hillary becomes his VP, she’ll lose every bit of respect that she had for Clinton. I agree and I daresay that the rest of Clinton’s supporters who don’t suffer from battered wife syndrome will, too.

  • typical irishman

    Keep on drinking that Obama Kool Aid just like that other Jim Jones Party drank the Jones Kool Aid and you will go over that provrbial cliff just like they did.

  • KC Independant

    And some are saying “Party Unity My Ass”

  • Margaret

    I thought it was Party Unity My Ass

  • Ralphie

    I’ll just wait for the DVD, thanks. Morons.

  • Margaret

    Just as soon as Hillary concedes, I’m signing up as a volunteer for McCain’s campaign. Hate is not hope, Hillary or McCain 2008.

  • BluDawg

    In His speech Obama claimed he would lower the sea’s and heal the earth.

    Yo bro…you been holding out on us? You got some “powers”.

    I guess the Southside of Chicago is some kind of utopia by now.

    okie dokie!

  • hick in pa

    Arugula:
    A yellowish-flowered Mediterranean herb of the mustard family; which has flavoured leaves, often eaten in salads.

    Funny it’s rather bitter tasting. But if you don’t cling to your bible or guns you’ll never be able to appreciate the bitter mustard flavor!

    Hillary/McCain

  • http://paganpower.wordpress.com PaganPower

    RFLMAO!

  • bmc

    “If McCain wins, you’ll be drafted into war…”

    This isn’t going to win me any friends among so-called “progressives,” here or elsewhere, but let me tell you something. There should be a draft in this country. We should call it “national service.” The problem for “progressives” AND “conservatives” in my view is that they are ready with a shout out of “support for the troops,” when it’s politically expedient; but they don’t know a damn thing about the “troops.” I do. I grew up in a military family, served in the military, and am the spouse of military, who also comes from a military family. We have served in every war since the Civil War in my family. We have lost the comprehension in this country of what it means to serve in war; and that is what makes it so easy to send our sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, siblings and relatives to war. When everyone is forced to serve–there will be FAR less military adventurism in this country.

    Oh, yes. It is a thing devoutly to be wished–a DRAFT. So, please continue to use that argument about John McCain. I will vote for him in a heartbeat if he institutes a draft.

  • ulahane

    “Are you all really democrats?” I am – I can’t speak for others.

    “Do you know what a Mcain presidency would mean for women’s rights, union rights and the rights of teachers to teach?” Nothing! There will be a strong majority Democratic congress.

    “Do you know what it’ll mean for minority rights?” see above.

    “Do you know what it’ll mean for our prestige around the world?” We should shoot ourselves in the foot so that other countries will like us better?????

    “And most important of all, do you know what it means for healthcare?” Nothing – Democratic Congress.

    I will never vote for a candidate whose closest friends preach race hatred (Wright, Pfleger, Meeks, etc.) and America hatred (add Ayers to the list). Never!

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    I know that even the most mediocre among us fancy themselves satirists from time to time. But you should definitely not quit your day job.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    I don’t vote for Marxists. So that leaves John McCain.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Sorry Uppity for the outburst. I am so so tired of these people telling me that Obama is great! i am so tired of the Lemmings coming here with their bullpoop and disrupting our conversations. They have no clue as to who this man is and is not.
    They threaten us with McCain and the end of the world if we don;t fall in line. They threaten women with the abortion issue to try to get them to “switch”. This is the Unity that was promised? I want no part of it.
    We don’t go to there cave and bother them. we don’t follow and ridicule them. little wonder why we are angry. ” YES WE CAN”!, yes we can destroy the Dem party should have been their mantra!
    Again… I am sorry for the lingo Larry and Susan….I am just fed up with this “Unity” schtick of theirs.

  • Kickass Old Lady

    I just laugh when told a vote for McCain will endanger womans’ reproductive rights. Let all the unapreciative young women learn to go out and organize to win them back.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    I know that even the most mediocre among us fancy themselves satirists from time to time. But you should definitely not quit your day job.

    I am losing patience with you.

  • Puma bait

    I’m new to this blog. But I’m curious to know whether “PUMA” is somehow similar to “cougar”. I imagine that it describes someone who was once a “cougar”, but simply got older.

  • typical irishman

    As one old Marine once said “They have us surrounded, they can’t escape now”. WE GOT EM–VOTE McCAIN!

  • http://paganpower.wordpress.com PaganPower

    A very interesting read.

  • typical irishman

    Yeah UPPITY, but I’m retired, so I have plenty of time to practice–now if I could only spale

  • lone star liberal

    From Hillary: On Saturday, I will extend my congratulations to Senator Obama and my support for his candidacy. This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.

    I have said throughout the campaign that I would strongly support Senator Obama if he were the Democratic Party’s nominee, and I intend to deliver on that promise.

    I hope those on this site who really are democrats will join Hillary in supporting the Democratic nominee for President.

  • Linda R

    I penned a little ditty that sums it all up for me:

    I’ve been cheated
    Been mistreated
    When will I be loved

    I’ve been pushed down
    I’ve been pushed ’round
    When will I be loved

    When I find a new man
    That I want for mine
    He always breaks my heart into
    It happens every time

    I’ve been made blue
    I’ve been lied to
    When will I be loved

    When I find a new man
    That I want for mine
    He always breaks my heart into
    It happens every time

    Oh, I’ve been cheated
    Been mistreated
    When will I be loved
    When will I be loved

  • WMCB

    I already gave my first donation to McCain today. The majority of Hillary’s campaign staff and volunteers here in Texas are going for McCain. These are LONG time party activists, who have run elections and worked their asses off for years. They are PISSED that the DNC would even consider this fraud and sham as POTUS.

    Time to revolt. It will be resounding, trust me.

    Can you hear us now, Dr. Dean? You will.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Yes it is Pagan.

  • ulahane

    How many times are you going to repeat the same tired idea. We think for ourselves. Obama – Never!

  • typical irishman

    Lone Star is a lousey beer. McCain is the better president when compared to Obama.

  • http://hillaryorbust.blogspot.com Hillary or Bust

    “Do you know what a Mcain presidency would mean for women’s rights”

    What a joke you just said right there. Obama, the DNC, and his supporters have already set women back 30 years thanks to their treatment of Hillary.

    As a woman, the WORST thing to me has already happened, that is, the best female candidate for president who would have won has been shafted by an arrogant, corrupt bastard.

    And then to be lectured by the likes of you.

    I don’t think McCain is a bad Republican. He actually has Global Warming as an issue on his own website. I’ll be OK with a Republican who wants to help the environment, even if he’s just moderate about it. The environment is much more important to me than your vague threats over “minority rights” and other stuff that presidents don’t really have anything to do with.

  • John A

    I’ve written a song that best sums up my feelings about things. I thought all of you might enjoy reading the lyrics:

    This eagle’s place is in the sky.
    She’s still got a lot of flying to do.
    You can see it in her eye,
    Though she’s cried a bit
    For what we’ve put her though.

    She’s soared above the lifted lamp
    That guards sweet freedom’s door.
    In the dews, the damps, the watchfires
    Of a nation torn by war.

    Oh, she’s far too young to die
    You can see it in her eye
    She’s not yet begun to fly.
    It’s time to let the mighty eagle soar once more.

    Let the eagle soar,
    Like she’s never soared before.
    From rocky coast to golden shore,
    Let the mighty eagle soar.
    Soar with healing in her wings,
    As the land beneath her sings:
    ‘Only God, no other kings.’
    Let the mighty eagle soar.

    This country’s far too young to die.
    We’ve still got a lot of climbing to do,
    And we, we can make it if we try.
    Built by toils and struggles
    God has led us through.

    We’ve fought for freedom dear
    both here and on the distant shore
    Paid a price a sacrifice
    A price you can’t ignore
    Oh, we’re far too young to die
    We can make it if we try
    We’ve not yet begun to fly.
    It’s time to let the mighty eagle soar once more.

    Let the eagle soar,
    Like she’s never soared before.
    From rocky coast to golden shore,
    Let the mighty eagle soar.
    Soar with healing in her wings,
    As the land beneath her sings:
    ‘Only God, no other kings.’
    Let the mighty eagle soar.

    Let the eagle soar,
    Like she’s never soared before.
    From rocky coast to golden shore,
    Let the mighty eagle soar.
    Soar with healing in her wings,
    As the land beneath her sings:
    ‘Only God, no other kings.’
    Let the mighty eagle soar.

    ‘Only God, no other kings.’
    Let the mighty eagle soar.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    I listened to his speech the other day and it seems to me as if he was holding out an olive branch to those 18 million voters. It would be interesting to see how many will go over to his side. I still havn’t decided myself but like he, I too am a Military Man and I believe he has the best interest of the country at heart. What I find curious is how Kerry will try to spin out of the fact that he asked McCain to be his VP, now that he is so Pro OBlama.

  • Kathy

    I can’t vote for Obama because of:

    1. His dishonesty

    2. His arrogance

    3. His inexperience

    4. His mysogyny

    5. His inability to distinguish himself in any way in 25 years except by having friends like Ayers, Rezko, Auchi, Wright, etc.

    6. His wife

    7. The way the media shoved this man down my throat to get the nomination

    8. His use of the race card

    9. His verbal abuse of Bill Clinton

    10.I don’t think I could listen to him talk for the next four years–ahh ahh ahh umm umm umm

  • Gleep

    Hey moron, I lived in AZ for over 7 years and one thing McCain did do was champion Hispanic rights in that State. He has quite a bit of empathy for immigrants in his State. Which is why he will definately get the Hispanic vote. So your crap about minority right is just that, crap. Do some reasearch.

  • claribel borden

    You will have to excuse me, but in the name of reality, I’m not going to accept the Obama is inevitable meme.

    He has not won, and I have no intention of feeding the meme.

    And secondly, to buy into that crap is to buy into a false picture, no matter WHO are you, and to make decisions on the basis, and at the level, of an A (or in Obama’s case, a D list lobbyist), as opposed to a superior thinker.

    It’s crap, and no.

    This is how they’re losing the wars, the economies, their businesses, and all the oil, this method of Washington corporate thinking, mediocre thinking exemplified by the wannabes, and really, well, if you buy into this, the country falls, doesn’t it?

    We have a Washington FULL of Rezko’s and Obama’s, and we need to face it, and get rid of them, once and for all.

    WE all agree there are problems, and rather than really look at the problems, namely Corrupt Washington forcing third rate candidates on us, we co opt an attitude of “well, McCain is the lesser evil” or “what does it matter, the whole thing keeps chugging.”

    And it doesn’t.

    Again, sorry to sound like a broken record, but we all see how the trolls think, and well, they’re dumb.

    And dumb can’t run a war, or an economy, republican, or democratic.

    Mostly, DUMB can’t sustain a superpower. Can we agree?

    Time to get real.

    Now, for some coffee…

  • beebop

    I have decided to suspend my Democratic party interest. I make this announcement with a great degree of hope for the future of this nation and this party.

    I woke up today not giving a rat’s a^^ about how stupid and willful it intends to be. Instead, I am baking cookies for my 3 year old niece who — at her age is entitled to be willful and immature. I am cleaning my house, donating old clothing to a battered woman shelter and a stack of the local newspapers to the dog shelter so that the dogs can pee and poop on all of the “she should drop out” editorials that the bully boys have published for the past six months. I am pulling the last few pesky weeds out of my back yard and putting in the remaining plants that I bought and will make plans to enjoy the outdoors and STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MSNBC, CNN, and NBC. ABC is on my last good nerve and I am about three minutes away from giving them the heave hoe as well. I am going to change my MySpace page and warn anyone who visits NOT TO MENTION POLITICS to me until after November, unless of course Barak Obama drops out.

    NoQuarter will still be my only source of news for all things political, but I am not reading posts from anyone whose screen name I don’t recognize since I cannot be bothered reading troll nonsense and won’t risk it on posts by people I don’t know.

    My stimulous check arrives today or tomorrow — I got notice from the IRS — and half is going to Hillary and the other half to John McCain to run ads against Obama.

    I suggest that all of you find something positive to do. It is going to take all of our strength to keep this country from going to the special interest groups represented by the Obama bundlers. Not a good thought imho.

    America 2008.

  • Milly

    Hi Susan and Larry and all the great people that contribute with their revealing and courageous articles to this website.

    It was hard to fix it Susan..but as I promised you here I am, ready to keep fighting! And my donation to this great website, that had ‘the courage to cover’ with dignity these primaries!

    Well guess all of you have received the same invitation, but sorry this time I cannot suppor Sen Rodham on this, asking me to support Sen Obama.

    Please excuse me if I used ‘capital letters’ won’t happen again, ummm unless they make me say ‘it loud and clear’ nowayobama! I don’t know but I feel that we are living in old communist Germany, and we are the ones standing alone fighting for justice and liberty! DNC=DICTATORSHIP
    ””””””””

    > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 01:51:16 -0400
    > From: info@hillaryclinton.com
    > To: xxxxxx@hotmail.com
    > Subject: I want you to know
    > >
    >
    > Dear Milly,
    >
    > I wanted you to be one of the first to know: on Saturday, I will hold an event in Washington D.C. to thank everyone who has supported my campaign. Over the course of the last 16 months, I have been privileged and touched to witness the incredible dedication and sacrifice of so many people working for our campaign. Every minute you put into helping us win, every dollar you gave to keep up the fight meant more to me than I can ever possibly tell you.
    >
    > On Saturday, I will extend my congratulations to Senator Obama and my support for his candidacy. This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.
    >
    > I have said throughout the campaign that I would strongly support Senator Obama if he were the Democratic Party’s nominee, and I intend to deliver on that promise.

    ………..

    AND HERE MY REPLY TO:

    > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 01:51:16 -0400
    > From: info@hillaryclinton.com
    > To: xxxxxx@hotmail.com
    > Subject: I want you to know
    > >
    >
    > Dear Milly,
    >
    > I wanted you to be one of the first to know: on Saturday, I will hold an event in Washington D.C. to thank everyone who has supported my campaign. Over the course of the last 16 months, I have been privileged and touched to witness the incredible dedication and sacrifice of so many people working for our campaign. Every minute you put into helping us win, every dollar you gave to keep up the fight meant more to me than I can ever possibly tell you.
    >
    > On Saturday, I will extend my congratulations to Senator Obama and my support for his candidacy. This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.

    AND BELOW MY REPLY:

    I AM SORRY SEN RODHAM, I CANNOT SUPPORT SEN OBAMA, THAT MAN IS NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE PRESIDENCY. IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT IN THE WHITE HOUSE THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSON AND THAT IS YOU. I DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MISTAKE THE DNC HAS DONE WITH THEIR TRICKS TO TAKE YOU OUT OF THE RACE. AND I FELT THAT INJUSTICE DONE TO YOU HAS BEEN DONE TO THOSE 18 MILLIONS PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR YOU.

    IF THIS WAS ABOUT TO VOTE FOR WHOEVER THE DNC WANTS FOR CANDIDATE, I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A DEMOCRAT, BUT SADLY THERE IS DNC ANYMORE, THE DNCE IS A CORRUPT PARTY.

    IF THEY FORCED YOU TO FOLLOW ORDERS, THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO ME. I WON’T NEVER VOTE FOR THAT MAN, AND TO WAIT REPUBLICANS FIND OUT WITH PRODUCED EVIDENCE THAT HE IS A CRIMINAL, IT IS A SHAME FROM THE PART OF THE DNC TO ASK US TO VOTE FOR A DELINQUENT. THAT’S DISGUSTING. NO MONEY FROM ME, NO SUPPORT, WHEN THE DNC COMES TO ITS SENSES I WILL REVISE MY DECISION TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THE PARTY AGAIN, ONCE YOU PUT SEN RODHAM AS THE NOMINEE, SHE WON AND YOU KNOW IT.

    NO WAY YOU WILL CONVINCE ME WITH ”THE FALSE MESSAGE OF UNITY”, YOU THE DNC WERE THE FIRST ONE WHO DID NOT PLAY FAIR BY STEALING FL AND MI VOTES FROM SEN RODHAM, AND WITH ‘THAT’ YOU CREATED DIVISION. WE ARE HURT, THAT’S NOT EASY TO HEAL. I PREFER TO HAVE A REPUBLICAN THAN TO HAVE ‘A TERRORIST AND CORRUPT POLITICIAN FROM CHICAGO’. WHAT? TO WAIT WHEN HE IS SWORN AND THEN REVEAL ALL THE SCANDALS THAT ARE IN ‘HOLD’, TO ASK HIM TO RESIGN AND HAVE THE PEOPLE AGAIN GO THROUGH THAT DISGUSTING SCENE. COME ON, YOU KNOW ALL ABOUT THIS MAN, DON’T TRY TO FOOL THE PEOPLE. I DON’T CARE IF THE MEDIA WON’T COVER IT, TO HAVE HIM AS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, FOR MCCAIN TO DEFEAT HIM ONCE ALL THE ‘DIRT’ COMES OUT.

    NO, YOU ACT WITH RESPECT TOWARDS THE VOTERS AND REMOVE THAT MAN FROM POLITICS, SEND HIM TO AFRICA, HIS MAJOR INTEREST IS AFRICA, WELL SEND HIM TO AFRICA, THIS IS THE USA AND WE NEED A PRESIDENT CONCENTRATED IN OUR GREAT NATION NEEDS RIGHT NOW! AFRICA HAS TO GET RID OF THE BUNCH OF CORRUPTS THAT ARE RUNNING THAT GREAT CONTINENT. BUT THAT IS NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY, THE PEOPLE FROM AFRICA HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THEY FREEDOM AND JUSTICE, THE ALREADY RECEIVE AID, HELP THROUGH MANY ORGANIZATIONS, AND WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THAT HELP OR AID GOES? TO THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS. STOP WITH AFRICA BEING A VICTIM, THEY CAN FIGHT TOO THE SAME WAY WE FOUGHT IN THIS NATION TO BE A ‘REPUBLIC’ TAKING OUR OWN DECISIONS, WE ARE FIGHTERS, AND SEN RODHAM IS ‘A GREAT FIGHTER AND INSPIRATIONAL WOMAN’ AND YOU WANT TO END WITH HER POLITICAL CAREER, YOU DNC DO NOT DESERVE HER!

    PUT THAT MAN SEN OBAMA, UNDER INVESTIGATION, AND BE FAIR WITH THE VOTERS. WITH ALL THOSE RECORDS IN CHICAGO AND ALL THE DISGUSTING THINGS THIS MAN SEEMS TO HAVE INVOLVED, AND THE DNC DOES NOT WANT TO INVESTIGATE, HOW I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR WHATEVER THE DNC TELLS ME TO VOTE AND SUPPORT, YOU ARE NOT A DICTATOR, JUST A PARTY WITH PUBLIC SERVANTS. THOSE 18 MILLIONS VOTERS ARE FOR SEN RODHAM, SHE WORKED HARD AND EARNED IT!

    THE COMMITMENT FROM SEN RODHAM IS WITH ‘US’ THOSE 18 MILLIONS THAT VOTED FOR HER, NOT WITH THE DNC THAT HAS TREATED HER LIKE TRASH!

    GO INDEPENDENT HILLARY, AND YOU CAN COUNT ON ME AND MY MONEY, NO WAY I CAN STAND THE DNC NOW, AFTER SEEING THE WAY THEY TREATED YOU AND US THOSE WHO FIERCELY HAVE SUPPORTED THE BEST CANDIDATE IN YEARS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, AND THE DNC WANTS FOR SOME WEIRD REASON A ‘DELINQUENT THAT I DO NOT KNOW HOW HE GOT INTO POLITICS’, THIS MAN, SEN OBAMA IS LIKE HAVING A TERRORIST IN DISGUISE WITH HIS SMOOTH PERSONALITY AND FRIENDLY SMILE TO PLAY HIS ROLE AS ‘THAT WILL BE THE WAY TO GAIN THEIR CONFIDENCE, ONCE WE HAVE “THAT” WE WILL GET THE POWER OF THE WHITE HOUSE’, AND THEN YOU-DNC- WILL SEE THAT YOU WERE THE ONES TO BLAME FOR ALLOWING A TERRORIST TAKING THE WHITE HOUSE, IN YOUR OWN FACE, ONLY ‘WITH WORDS AND SMILING’ AND GETTING ALONG WITH REP AND DEM. SORRY I AM NOT THAT BLIND AND STUPID YET.

    DON’T DARE TO SEND ME ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH GIVING SUPPORT TO THAT ‘DELINQUENT’, FOR GOD SAKES THIS IS THE USA, NOT AFRICA, WERE ‘WHOEVER PEOPLE WITH MONEY’ CAN DECLARE THEMSELVES ‘KINGS’ OR ‘PRESIDENTS’. THIS PRIMARIES WERE BOUGHT AND MANIPULATED FOR THIS MAN AND HIS SUPPORTERS.

    I WILL SUPPORT ONLY SEN RODHAM AS PRESIDENT, NOT VP EITHER. LET’S WAIT AND WE WILL SEE ALL THE DIRTY COMING OUT, THEN SEND ME A NEW INVITATION THIS TIME TO SUPPORT THE REAL NOMINEE, AND THAT IS SEN RODHAM!

    THANKS

  • melior

    Bitter vindictive Hillary supporters for Barr 2008!

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    What is your problem? Really? You won, so go celebrate by playing with the new toy mommy bought you yesterday.
    Oh, and BTW, in case you missed the memo, your candidate now acknowledges that he needs our votes to win. You’re not helping him.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    two sugars for me please ;-)

  • Gleep

    Who is the idiot that is saying McCain isn’t good for minority rights? Have they even looked at his Az record? I lived in AZ for over 7 years and he’s been championing Hispanic rights for a while now. The Hispanic vote will be his, numbnut. Sheesh, do trolls ever do any homework at all??

  • GoMccain

    WooHoo, Go McCain!!

    No more Roe v Wade and 100 more years in Iraq!

    Yippee!!!!!

  • rjj

    What happened to the witty Gamzulatov.

    Is this what happens when you get turned down, sweetie?

    grandiosity = 1/pusillanimity

  • dpvegas

    With baited breath?

    The explanations are all in writing here. Try reading.

  • Gamzulatov

    Yeah Go play with your new toy Obamajerks!

    Our new toy is a roaring scratching Puma that will poke one of your eyes out and eat your arugula!

    Didn’t you see what happened to red dragon? Obama shit on his dinner plate!

    Is that who you want for President? Is It?

    PUMA rulz
    OSTINKA drulz

  • Mr.Murder

    OT:

    Clemons thinks Obama may run Sam Nunn as a member of his shadow cabinet.
    http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/06/asking_and_tell/

    Don’t ask Don’t tell is quite a path to unity.

  • Mary

    And yet, LVII, John Kerry thought McCain would be an excellent Democratic Vice President in 2004.

    How do you explain that?

  • Rob in Chicago

    Even NY Congressman Charlie Rangel was supporting a return to the draft with virtually no exemptions, as the best way to mobilize the public to get the hell out of Iraq. After the Vietnam War, the politicians maintained draft registration (in case of emergency), but ended conscription because they saw that conscription gave many folks who were not enamored of our entanglement a real stake in trying to end it. The argument was made that a professional all volunteer military would be more economical better trained, better disciplined, and more effective, and that argument has merit, but the position that a military largely made up of conscripts can provoke virulent (and highly contagious) opposition (in a society that has some safeguards for expressing political opposition)to some military adventures is also correct. Once the protesting youth got their parents on board against the Vietnam War, then the war had to end. The prospect of being sent to fight and die (against your will) in a war that you do not understand or support can be a terrific motivation tool to get the youth into the streets for protest. When its just the “volunteers” fighting and dying, its more like “fetch me another bag of Cheetos”.

  • ulahane

    WooHoo, Go Obama!!

    No more cars and food!

    Yippee!!!!!

  • bert

    Right on, Kickass Old Lady. I am 62 and my reproductive days are over. If Roe gets over turned it won’t affect me any lomnger. let those young kids go out and fight for it like I had to. That tired old line is not going to scare me into voting for the most inexperienced candidate ever.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Nope…Just put the Hopium in the pipe and smoke it!

  • RedStateTurnedBlueForHillary

    Thanks for the link, Gloria. A very interesting read. IF the IRS had enforced stripping tax exempt status of Churches that preached politics from the pulpit or told congregants how to vote from the pulpit…maybe some of these radicals would have faded into the woodwork. They obviously know they can say whatever they want and not be penalized. And I do realize the Rainbow/PUSH meeting was not held in a Church.

  • artist

    PArty leaders are working behind the scene to keep Hillary off the ticket.

    She won the MOST votes, you idiots!

    Laugh today, cry tomorrow.

    See you in November!!

  • RedStateTurnedBlueForHillary

    Thanks for the link, Gloria. Interesting read.

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    What is your problem? Really? You won. Go play with the new toy mommy bought you.
    And BTW, your candidate has now acknowledged that he’s needs out votes to win. You’re not helping him.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    How right you are Rob!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I’ve said for awhile now that I was Independent rather than Democrat. I got mad back when Dean was on the circuit calling for Hillary to quit. It makes me laugh now to see that she has the popular vote win. He was so smug about the entire situation until the DNC was flooded with calls and e-mails. Then his tune changed.

    The articles today are still so terribly rude in tone. I’m not convinced that Hillary even wants the VP position, but you’d think she’s demanding it from the editorials. I highly doubt that’s the case. What I do know is that the pundits continue to underestimate his electability problem. They seem to think some kind of general academic discussion of racism actually means squat. The fact that Obama has angered groups just hasn’t dawned on them yet.

    Oh well….passing the popcorn to fellow Pumas.

  • claribel borden

    It all stinks of Orange, those who can’t write.

    Ultimately, it doesn’t work because you can’t properly analyze, you can’t understand what motivates another’s thinking, hence, the Indian call center, those poor people simply reading scripts some psychiatrist prepared for Lucent’s customer service. They feel it’s enough to bridge the cultural gap, and it’s not, they lose ground because, in the end, they’re are wholly illiterate, unable to negotiate the complex relationships necessary for true progress, and success. They kill their businesses, it’s a slow suicide.

    Imagine making an investment in that, and then understanding it’s a total wash.

    There is no progress, with that group, nothing new, it’s the rule of thumb, no innovation, whatsoever.

    Look at the war, look at the economy, look at their businesses –it’s all American idol.

  • RedStateTurnedBlueForHillary

    It’s so nice to have ‘new’ people visiting this week. Larry, your site meter is really going up. Ad revenue is going to be great! Thanks, new visitors!!

  • GoMcain1287

    If I register for this site, do I get a free pacifier and diapers?

  • fred

    CNN contacted Democrats Against Obama wants to know more about us who runs it ect. We are growing in HUGE numbers. Join us if you’re not voting for Obama lets us know we have there attention.

  • bert

    Last time I looked, hon, this was still a democracy and I can vote any damn way I want and for whom ever I think is the better candidate. And I don’t need to lectured by some snot-nosed kid who called me moron, racist, and offered to fill me with birdshot and offer me up as duck and eat me for dinner becasue I had a different opinion. Should have thought about my vote way back when sonny. I cannot in good conscience vote for inexpereince and daffy corrupt and unrepentent terrorist friends and associates. Go give your lecture to that big base of voters you all created in the primary. You lost me and the UN-Democratic Party lost me.

  • fred

    CNN contacted Democrats Against Obama wants to know more about us who runs it ect. We are growing in HUGE numbers. Join us if you’re not voting for Obama lets us know we have there attention.
    http://democrats-against-obama.org/

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    In case you missed the memo this morning, Obama now acknowledges that he needs our votes to win. You’re not helping him.

  • Gamzulatov

    Okay listen up you Russian Obamajerks!

    John A (at the top of this post) has written a song. It is all about Hillary if she was an eagle and she was God flying around protecting America.

    Now we have an Eagle and We have a Puma And they will kick your russian marxist butt right back to Obamaland.

    You stink so go home and leave us alone with our eagle and our puma before you are very sorry.

    In case you didn’t know a Puma is not just any old house cat. IT is huge and it roars and can scratch the hell out of your russian ass. So give it up because our eagle is flying high.

    OBAMA Stinks

  • Lester

    Milly,

    Very well written. I am behind you all the way!!

  • ckennedy

    Just try to absorb her own words:

    This has been a long and hard-fought campaign, but as I have always said, my differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.

  • Cindy

    Pagen,
    I LOVE the momentum and excitement of the new and improved anti-Obama, anti-DNC movement.
    This must be what good old Sam Adams and friends felt like right before the Tea Party. It’s exhilerating!
    Thank you, and all of the Faithful!!

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Funny.
    I see that the mentally ill have escaped from the little yellow school bus!
    No originality, only grade school taunts. These are the ones “WE” have been waiting for?
    God help us all!
    “YES WE CAN”! LOL

  • bert

    Last time I looked this was still a democracy and I can vote for whoever I want and whoever I think is the better candidate. And that is McCain. After 43 years as a registered Democrat and voting for every weak-assed Democratic nominee the DNC tossed my way, I just can’t vote for this latest and the worst version of a DNC that so out of touch with my values. McCain is a moderate and I can live with that. LIVE WITH IT. This is what the face of Obama’s new coalition looks like. It is a coaltion without me and many like me. GET USED TO IT. ’cause I ain’t coming back!!!!!!!! EVER

  • american sawbuck

    Ditto i am a 66 year old and who cares anymore…..nothing scares me at this age……I will vote republican….

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard nedich

    just signed up on mccain’s website…

    his website is soo much better than hillary’s… seriously, so many more features and stuff to explore etc etc…

    really well thought out…

    McCain is gonna rawk!

    i’ve actually always respected mccain even though i’ve been a democrat all my life…

  • Deep Truths

    Gee, all that grey matter for this shit. Concrete facts and advice. Obama will lose anyway you slice it. At the convention, GE, or indictment. Put that in your Kool-Aid!

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

    4.) Remember that there is a better alternative. Hillary Clinton is the strongest candidate for the party and the nation. She has a lot of support out there. The nation will rally around her if we let them know we are not giving in. We must not let her concede one inch. Stand firm. Send her your good thoughts. Send her money. Do not give up.

    With you there! No need to give up!

    Hillary WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!

    OT troll food:

    Obamatons: Hillary is still very much in the race! We have until August 25 to actually select a nominee. We are now in the second half of the campaign. In case you did not notice on Saturday Hillary will only be suspending her campaign. By doing this she keeps her delegates and can still seek the nomination and we will help her get the nomination.

    Now that your pals in the MSM have anointed Obama the nominee you won’t have them bashing Hillary any longer. And already the MSM is turning on Obama as we warned you. You won’t be able to bash Hillary as she supports Obama for party unity. Hillary will support party unity because she will have to fix this disaster you and Obama have created. Sorry Obamatons you will have to fight your battle on three fronts:

    1. Keeping your supporters from jumping ship.

    2. Fighting the GOP.

    3. Fighting us Hillary supporters without bashing Hillary since she supports Obama (for now) for party unity. We still see Hillary taking the nomination no matter how hard you click your ruby slippers that we just go away.

    Sorry but we won’t be going anywhere. Obama limped over the voting portion of the finish line. Hillary charged over by winning the popular vote. There is no nominee until August 25.

    In the end the DNC will be begging the Clinton’s to save the party and Hillary will be our next president. I hope the Clinton’s take a long vacation sipping pina coladas on the beach while they laugh there asses off while Obama and your trolls spin your wheels for the next 2 months.

    Hillary ‘08 + ‘12!

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    Did you forget to take your medication this morning?

  • Gamzulatov

    I could not agree with you more red dragon. Ever since I heard your story about what Obama/Ostinka did to you, I have not been able to eat!!

    Your story is so similar to what happened to me, sometimes I think we could become fast friends.

    Now if we could only get rid of the mentally ill. Man I hate them as much as Obama I hate all kinds of mentally ill.

    we should sick our Eagle on them and our Puma on Obama.

    YES WE CAn attack the mentally ill and Obama with eagles and pumas and we would kick their butts all over that little red school bus.

  • american sawbuck

    I honestly believe the Clintons will vote for McCain rather than bambi the slimeball…..I will!!!

  • DJ

    FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN…I beleieve honesty is the best policy folks so here goes. I voted for Bush, I still like him, and I was going to vote for McCain until I say what was happening. While watching the Democratic primary I have to tell you that I gained enormous respect for Hillary. I has always thought she was to hard, but during the campaign I saw someone who truly loves this country & wants to help the American people. I could not believe how she was shafted. From the start the media was on Obama’s side. It makes me sick to see how she was treated. The DNC and the media made it impossible for her to get a fair shot. Bill Clinton was right, I have never seen a candidate treated the way that Hillary has been treated. The names she and her supporters have been called and are still being called is disgusting. After all that is known and still remains unknown about Obama the nomination is being handed to him on a silver platter. What really scares me is that after all the radical stuff that has come out about him and his wife I am dumfounded that anyone still supports him. What is going on in America. Have you watched the YOUTUBE video..OBAMA TO DISARM THE MILITARY…this man is not fit to be commander in chief of our military. I don’t care if McCain or Hillary get prez, but Obama CANNOT. It isn’t a matter of what party we as Americans belong to anymore, we have to do what is best for this country. I heard on Fox this morning that Robert Knovak was told by a top Democrat that he would sleep better if McCain is elected…my question is than what the hell are all these DNC leaders doing by voting for Obama and forcing Hillary to support him. I know from reading other blogs that we all want the same things and feel the same way…our GUTT tells us something is not right about Obama. I am working as hard as I can to get people to get Hillary or McCain elected. I hope all of you will also. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard nedich

    one really big difference between clinton and obama is that obama steals votes and has been stealing votes and sabotaging the democratic process for his own personal gain his whole political life…

    no american can support Obama’s shameful vote stealing…

    green, black, orange, white, democrat, republican, independent – we are all united behind the principles of democracy

    adios Obama

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Dream on Sleepy. I am sure you believe that. The problem with your argument is that as an Edwards supporter, I find it hard to believe you have ever supported “HILLARY”. You may have supported her “HUSBAND”, but i find it hard to believe you ever supported her. I may be wrong. If I am, I’m sorry. but I have spoked to many Hillary supporters, maybe not as many as I would like to swing the election, but enough in my district to defeat any candidate that supports Obama! If that is what we have to do than so be it!

  • Deep Truths

    Save it dude. We’re not drinking the kool-aid.

    PARTY UNITY MY ASS!

  • http://theold18.typepad.com/ Big Tex

    “Democrats for McCain”? There is no such thing as a Democrat who supports McCain. If you vote for McCain, you’re voting for George Bush’s war in Iraq. You’re voting for George Bush’s tax breaks for the ultra-wealthy. You’re voting for anti-choice, anti-gay rights Supreme Court justices. You’re voting for privatized Social Security. You’re voting for legalized torture, against habeas corpus and against the rule of law. You’re voting against equal respect and dignity under the law for gays and lesbians. You’re voting against the interests of organized labor. And you’re voting against 95% of what Hillary Clinton stood for during her campaign.

    Call yourselves whatever you want, but if you think McCain would be a better president than Barack Obama, you’re a liar if you call yourself a Democrat. Real Democrats support candidates who uphold the values of the Democratic Party. They don’t vote for Republicans because their tender feelings got hurt.

    P.S. You didn’t get robbed of a damn thing. Barack Obama is the choice of a majority of Democratic voters, and Hillary didn’t win the popular vote – not unless you include Michigan’s non-sanctioned, all-white exhibition vote.

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

    Are you referring to PaganPower? If you are, they make perfect sense to me.

  • snoopy

    Now a republican, lets take back our government from George Soros…….

  • sjl106

    gamzulatov do you really think anyone is trying to convince you? Do you really believe any one here but a few other obamabites really give a damn about you? LOL that just shows you how arrogant and your messiah really are.

  • WMCB

    When they say “McCain is bad on minority rights”, what they mean is “He treats all minorities with respect, and the same, and does not kowtow and genuflect enough to the AA powerbrokers.” Rev Wrights of the world

    Their definition of “bad on minority rights” has nothing to do with McCain’s actual record. It has to do with his refusal to join the white guilt genuflecting to AA leaders bandwagon that keeps the Rev. Wrights of the world in their 10 million dollar homes.

  • fred

    playing the race card, sexism, manipulation, bitter, typical white, allowing Hillary bashing, feeding the Obama media negativity, insulting her supporters, His supporters “they don’t need us”. He didn’t help himself. We are not voting for Obama because hes not qualified and he used the race card to win, divided this great country even further. They lowered the bar to 2118, then they stole her votes and the voters of Michigan votes to give him the 2118. As American How Do You Allowed This? Stand On Principles, or forever be a puppet.

  • WMCB

    When they say “McCain is bad on minority rights”, what they mean is “He treats all minorities with respect, and the same, and does not kowtow and genuflect enough to the AA powerbrokers.”

    Their definition of “bad on minority rights” has nothing to do with McCain’s actual record. It has to do with his refusal to join the white guilt genuflecting to AA leaders bandwagon that keeps the Rev. Wrights of the world in their 10 million dollar homes.

  • Caya

    DJ, this is how I feel also. Precedence is being set. Very Dangerous.

  • Walter

    I think in the next five months, most of you will calm down and reflect a bit on how exaggerated and fabricated this resentment towards Obama is and rediscover your political values. The main thing is to start looking at this as political and stop taking it all so personally. You feel kicked in the gutter and ignored and neglected and abused, but as the weeks pass you’ll see all that happened is a lot of people got excited about a different candidate, and one who is not the monster your resentment has led you to construct out of vapors and rumors. Moreover, most of the insults and spite from Obama supporters is inspired not by your support for another candidate, but against your own name calling, insults, and hate mongering.

    I know, I know. Obamamot! Hater! Troll! That’s what you say today. I think the lot of you need to take a deep breath, walk away from this little hate-o-sphere and Larry’s psyops, do things that make you happy, and let the hate subside. Then come back with a newfound sense of purpose that’s based on your political values, not on hate and resentment.

    I’m out. Best wishes to all of you.

    - Walter

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard nedich

    Amen fred!

    well said…

    lets get this message out to the country!

  • beebop

    And her words meant what to you 48 hours ago?

    Go to hell and take the rest of the trolls with you. We don’t need the lunatic fringe telling us anything about votes.

  • Evan

    Wow! the DNC has just swiftboated my former party’s own best candidate.

    Sad.

    And who will be blamed when nobama loses in the fall?

    …you guessed it…Hillary Clinton!

    God save us.

  • american sawbuck

    There may be little difference in their policy positions ( Clinton vs Obama)
    but there is a world of difference in their character..Character counts and I do not want slimmy bambi and meeeescehell as my President and 1st lady …michelle as 1st bitchi and he is Preident Slimeball Crook…just what America needs …….Yup ,Character counts more than position and policies this time Koolaiders

  • Deep Truths

    Sleepy, or is it comatose.

    “In your experience…” what the fuck is that.
    There has never been a black male and woman at this stage in history. Nor has there been such a cloud of anvils hanging on the nominees head.

    Wake the fuck up!

  • sjl106

    Comment by Gamzulatov | 2008-06-05 07:03:56

    Do you really believe anyone on this board is trying to convince you? Do you really believe that anyone on this board gives a damn about you? LOL that just shows how arrogant you obamabites and your messiah really are.

    Hillary or McCain 08!

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    I see that besides being mentally challenged, some Trolls can’t read either!
    Oh I see………I’ve acknowledged the child and gave him a sense of worth so I am his Buddy today! Hmmm…Do you think if I ignore this poor sick soul he will go away? Doubt it.

  • Walter

    I think in the next five months, most of you will calm down and reflect a bit on how exaggerated and fabricated this resentment towards Obama is and rediscover your political values. The main thing is to start looking at this as political and stop taking it all so personally. You feel kicked in the gutter and ignored and neglected and abused, but as the weeks pass you’ll see all that happened is a lot of people got excited about a different candidate, and one who is not the monster your resentment has led you to construct out of vapors and rumors. Moreover, most of the insults and spite from Obama supporters is inspired not by your support for another candidate, but against your own name calling, insults, and hate mongering.

    I know, I know. Obamamot! Hater! Troll! That’s what you say today. I think the lot of you need to take a deep breath, walk away from this little hate-o-sphere and Larry’s psyops, do things that make you happy, and let the hate subside. Then come back with a newfound sense of purpose that’s based on your political values, not on hate and resentment.

    I’m out. Best wishes to all of you. If anyone wants to talk about the differences between the candidates without just hurling accusations back and forth, feel free to email me.

    - Walter (walter.windchill@gmail.com)

  • Gamzulatov

    I think you should leave Jesus out of this.

    But one thing I will convince you of. If you don’t go back to your Obamaland central we will attack you with every eagle claw and Puma roar we have.

    That’s right. I know you are a troll so just go back to marxism land. Do you have any idea what happened to red dragon26?

    He was sitting there enjoying a nice meal of arugula and hesked Obam to turn up the heat and Obama started cursing and took off his pants and (excuse my language) shit right there on the table. and the same thing happened to me!

    and you want me to shut up about Hillary Clinton and this nation I love. I don’t think so. Long live Hillary!

    red Dragon will attack you and your mentally ill Obama trolls all night and day. Don’t let the Puma bight you in the ass on your waay out.

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

    “Democrats for McCain”?

    Sure is such a thing. You can thank Obama, Axelrod, the MSM, DNC, Perlosi, Dean and you trolls for manifesting this. You can blame shift all you want but it won’t change the truth.

    Ye sow what ye reap. If you want to blame anyone look in a mirror.

    And don’t worry, we will have a Democrat in the White House: Hillary!

    August is 25 is a long way off troll.

  • workingclass artist

    Ditto that…..I’m cutting a stencil to put that on T-shirts for me and my daughter….I’m a Clinton Democrat and until August Support her. If Obama the fascist is still standing I’ll vote McCain as an independent…

    **** OBAMA IS UNFIT FOR ANY ELECTIVE OFFICE ****

  • snoopy

    Comment by Walter | 2008-06-05 08:51:52

    I think in the next five months, most of you will calm down and reflect a bit on how exaggerated and fabricated this resentment towards Obama is and rediscover your political values
    ———————————————-

    ———————————————-
    No way Walter this is move then hate, I fear for the security of my country………..

    I fought for my country and I’m not taking any chances playing with this guy, whomever he is.

  • roseeriter

    The only real winner is Corporate owned main stream media- They’ve shoved Obama down our throats, shoving McCain up our asses and Hillary was screwed in every way possible. The Corporations depend on their controlling the masses and man, have they done that. We have lost the freedom to vote let alone think. The Corporate Pied Piper is the only winner in this farce of political choice.

  • http://rebelcentral.net/blog/?p=206 NO Don’t Support McCain! | REBEL CENTRAL

    [...] Hillary supporters are defecting to John McCain is senseless and extremely disturbing to me. Yes, dissent is delicious. Absolutely. But choosing a major far-rightwing warmonger (John McCain) because you don’t [...]

  • allimom99

    Remember that the vast majority of Democrats voted for Gore, too, but enough voted for Bush to allow that election to be stolen. Much as the party hacks like to blame Nader, it was Florida DEMOCRATS that cost us a Gore presidency. Once again, team Obama thinks that I OWE the party my vote (and I’m not even a Democrat). Hubris is a dangerous thing. My vote isn’t OWED to anyone, and he would do well to remember that.

    Being dismissive of entire classes of people, and saying they don’t need us to win is NOT the way to go. I’ve done my own research on Obama, and I DON’T like what I see. He has not earned my vote. Also, I agree that these young womenwho take their rights for granted might see things differently if they actually had to FIGHT for something for once in their entitled little lives.

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard nedich

    dude, stealing votes….

    this is america dude… we have rules…

    we have beliefs that you can buy or steal…

    we are united by these beliefs…

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

    I love this post, Pagan. I’m too disgusted to even blog right now. I’m made that Hillary had to send that email about uniting behind the Big Pretender.

    I’m disgusted at the sexism and misogyny that’s been directed at Hillary and her supporters. And it hasn’t stopped and it won’t now that people are rewarding BO and his band of thugs.

    I’m disconcerted that the people I used to align myself with are now alien to me.

    I’m horrified that the party of the people is now an operation funded by the Chicago political machine.

    I’m disillusioned by the people’s acceptance of illegal, immoral, unethical, opportunistic and greedy political maneuvering.

    I’m depressed that the same virulent sexism that’s haunted my 50+ years on this earth has undermined the best candidate for president that’s come along since Bill Clinton.

    And I can’t believe the racism and race baiting that’s propelled this neophyte nobody to the top of the ticket.

    When I feel like this, there’s rage brewing inside me that will need an outlet. I will direct it towards exposing the crooked $$ machine behind him and doing everything possible to defeat BO in the GE.

  • Mel

    A vote for Obama is a vote for communism, no thanks, already seen how Obama works in the Primary, no way he and his thugs will EVER be in the White House!

    That is Democracy!

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Walter…
    Some may feel this way and some not. It’s not about hate brother, more so the atmosphere. My take, no one else’s. I don’t hate the man, never did. I just don’t trust him Politically. I can not give my vote to someone I don’t trust. It could be Hillary, Obama or Edwards for that matter. this has nothing to do with hurt feelings.
    but you are right Brother, There are deep wounds that need to be healed. The problem with healing those wounds is that you can’t have a civil discussion about policy with Children! all you get is taunts and smart ass remarks. just look at the thread. you will admit that won’t you?
    i am willing to have an intelligent discussion with anyone, but when someone calls me out for not supporting a certain candidate….That I cannot oblige

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

    I love this post, Pagan. I’m too disgusted to even blog right now. I’m mad that Hillary had to send that email about uniting behind the Big Pretender.

    I’m disgusted at the sexism and misogyny that’s been directed at Hillary and her supporters. And it hasn’t stopped and it won’t now that people are rewarding BO and his band of thugs.

    I’m disconcerted that the people I used to align myself with are now alien to me.

    I’m horrified that the party of the people is now an operation funded by the Chicago political machine.

    I’m disillusioned by the people’s acceptance of illegal, immoral, unethical, opportunistic and greedy political maneuvering.

    I’m depressed that the same virulent sexism that’s haunted my 50+ years on this earth has undermined the best candidate for president that’s come along since Bill Clinton.

    And I can’t believe the racism and race baiting that’s propelled this neophyte nobody to the top of the ticket.

    When I feel like this, there’s rage brewing inside me that will need an outlet. I will direct it towards exposing the crooked $$ machine behind him and doing everything possible to defeat BO in the GE.

  • american sawbuck

    Why do you care how we vote ..Are you frightened we mean it?…It gives me hope to know you idiots really think there will be unity ..You will permanently loose 30 to 35 % of Hillary supporters You can take it to the bank I will not come back and neither will the many people I know .We are older and wiser than most and see our country being raped by all you vile obama worshippers.Go to Hell…We have a country to save from the left and we will.

  • Gamzulatov

    I’m sorry but I don’t even know what pussilinamity means are you some kind of Obama elitist?

    Because PUMA will chomp your ass.

    Unless it was a compliment, then I apologize in advance.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Unfortunately, that’s just BS. I was one of the few Hillary supporters on Huffpo for months. I never resorted to name-calling and avoided snark replies as much as humanly possible.

    Daily I was called names. Daily I was treated to insults that took my breath away at first. (I did, indeed, learn to not take it personally.)

    No, there is a distinct attitude from Obama supporters that is why they like Obama’s elitism. Elitism is nothing more than arrogance. That’s just a nice way to say that someone’s ego is running the show.

    The attitude has been and remains that the Obama camp can get along fine without the working class, the old white women, the elderly who just won’t get with the change, man, those racist Latinos….and the list goes on.

    OK, we heard them.

    This isn’t just about disappointment. It’s about the direction and attitude of the new Democratic Party.

    Change always means that some groups are going to be shifted out of being relevant.

    We’re the irrelevant Democrats now.

    We still can’t get anyone to acknowledge the sexism. That’s called whining. OK, but then don’t be surprised when we don’t vote for Obama. Ignore it, fine. But don’t ask for our vote.

    We still can’t get anyone to acknowledge that the Democratic Party leaders railroaded this primary because of their own petty need for power and fear of the Clintons. OK, but then don’t ask Clinton Democrats to give you money for a DNC convention.

    We still can’t get anyone to acknowledge that the best candidate who won in the hard primaries is being talked about like she’s a pest. She beat him in the popular vote. She beat him in every major state. She built a much broader coalition. No, we’re told to admire his gaming of the caucus system as though that’s clever. OK, but don’t expect us to actually agree that he’s the best candidate or vote for him. The guy gamed the system.

    There will be a lot of justification and rationalization of this travesty. I don’t expect anyone to acknowledge what is obvious. It would be too self-aware and too anti-Democratic to do so.

    In the meantime, the Democratic Party, I’m sure, just lost their base.

    Good luck winning with AA’s and the college kids.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Medusa…..

    I WILL do whatever I have to do to expose this man for who he is…I ask all of us with the means and time to do the same. enough of the Troll wrestling, time to roll up our sleeves and get to work…No Quarter has already taken the hits for speaking out, will we?

  • joeysky

    Plan A Hillary
    Plan B McCain

    Disqualified MOBO

  • Legalize

    Republican.

  • workingclass artist

    ehemmm….gomccain…
    SPUCATUM TAURI ! ES SCORTUM OBSENUS VILIS !….PODEX PERFECTUS ES !
    now waddle back to GAZA….yawn…..

  • Gamzulatov

    Yeah go away you sick troll! Go back to Obama land. See how it feels when he shits on your dinner table!

  • http://jobabe jobabe

    Hey, I am not afraid of the Draft or Roe V. Wade arguement. Why, cause I am one of those old bitter women. Ok, I am not that but old enough to have worked on the Dukakis campaign and never again will I get sucked in to work for somebody I think is that incompetent. Obama is more incompetent and corrupt. I was a big giver to the democrats, not anymore. Hey let these young obamabots give to all the congressional campaign committees and the DNC. Oh that’s right, they don’t have anymoney cause they are spending it all on ipods, iphones, etc. Guess the DNC won’t miss all that money from us bitter old women with disposable incomes. The Obama people and campaign are making some big mistakes by attacking Hillary and her people won’t inspire me to unify, it just makes me more pissed off. (Lest the Obamabots thinks I am a complete racist-I gave money for Senator Obama’s US Senate race and a small of money for him when he declared because I was a good democrat and supported candidates all over the country-then I found out more about him-I am not giving anymore money) So all these young people might find out what it really is like to live without privilege.

  • dpvegas

    Exagerated? Bitter, clingy, gun-toting, ignorant racist white person? That’s fabricated?

    No, this is about a primary gone very, very bad. Republican-style sliming against a very good, highly qualified woman from her own.

    We (my husband and I), just had some doubts about him back in January, but now…oh, we can’t stand the nasty, back-biting, hysterically hypocritical coward. Not. At. All.

    My political values are this…I’m an old Democrat, and the liberal elitist isn’t going to get my vote. Not now, not ever. Why would I ever want to vote against my best interests? Meaning, vote for some whiny, arrogant elitist, who’s been obvious in his disdain for my unpapered, working class white self?

    ‘Sides, him and ol’ Donna don’t want us, so we’ll just take our two lil’ ol’ votes elsewhere.

    Yup, us hicks is Dems for McCain!

  • JB

    Moreover, most of the insults and spite from Obama supporters is inspired not by your support for another candidate, but against your own name calling, insults, and hate mongering.

    Hillary supporters must ask themselves: why do Obamatrons hate you?

    If your bf or husband smacks you around, what did you do to deserve it?

    They’re just excited about a “different” kind of candidate.

    See, they’re strung out on hopium. And you can’t be so cruel to a junkie as to hold him responsible for his actions.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    I hope those on this site who really are democrats

    Oh I’m really a Democrat, but thanks for asking. The problem is I am really NOT a Marxist.

  • P. Soles

    Wow… Morphing from the KKK to the PPP!

    All hail the Purple Pussy Party!

  • american sawbuck

    Don’t be disturbed you left wing koolaid drinker .”.Warmonger”
    how original..Now go away troll go away..NOTHING ANY OF YOU SAY WILL CHANGE OUR MINDS MOST OF US HERE HAVE LEFT THE DEM PARTY…SO DON’T JUDGE US LIKE YOU JUDGE YOURSELF …WE ARE PATRIOTIC NOT APPEASERS.
    The best man will win and we will help him ha ha WARMONGER…Sheeeesh

  • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

    Pastor Manning sent this urgent message to Hillary Clinton…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuysWJDP6J4

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    I think in the next five months, most of you will calm down and reflect a bit on how exaggerated and fabricated this resentment towards Obama is and rediscover your political values. The main thing is to start looking at this as political and stop taking it all so personally. You feel kicked in the gutter and ignored and neglected and abused, but as the weeks pass you’ll see all that happened is a lot of people got excited about a different candidate, and one who is not the monster your resentment has led you to construct out of vapors and rumors. Moreover, most of the insults and spite from Obama supporters is inspired not by your support for another candidate, but against your own name calling, insults, and hate mongering.

    OMG!!! Get real. This is the kind of psychological blackmail that battered wives hear all the time. “Calm down, honey. If you wouldn’t behave the way you do, I wouldn’t have to beat you. Once you’ve healed from the black eye and broken arm, you’ll realize that I was only doing it to help you.”
    I’m a lay preacher and former pastor, who under other circumstances wouldn’t use bad language, so I hate having to say something like this. Walter, take your bullsh*t somewhere else, because I’d don’t have battered wife syndrome.

  • Caya

    Who are you calling a whore? Freak!

  • AngryWhitePerson

    Hey, Walter, why don’t YOU take a big deep breath and ask yourself why you are such a wimpy passive aggressive a-hole with his head in the sand? You come in with your smug comments and bullshit. NO ONE GIVES A FUCK about your cries for unity except for the Obamabots. First of all, anger is NOT a bad thing in and of itself. Anger often leads to action that is for the betterment of everyone. How many happy oblivious people go out to protest something? They don’t, they sit at home content and lazy. How many angry people change the system? Take a guess.

    Don’t dismiss righteous anger with “venom.” Here’s some venom by the way: fuck you. Fuck you with your demands to calm down. Do you support misogny, race baiting and vote stealing? Well if so, you are a true Democrat. Good luck with your ideals. As for me? I prefer to think of myself as a true American, equal rights and fair representation for all.

  • SJ

    If Obama did not get the nomination the blacks would of been saying they will not vote, it sure is strange that they now feel all of us are dumb and stupid so we should just run to the polls a vote Obama because Hillary says so.

    Maybe some will but not me, I am not going to let anyone use my vote to get Obama into the white house, Hillary needs to do what she feels to do for her political life, I am just a voter and not seeking office so I can do what the hell I want with my vote.

    How embarrassing it is here is the DNC making fuss over this great candidate Obama, wanting all of us to get on the train and celebrate the first AA to win the nomination and the next day Obama main backer get convicted on a host of charges.

    Does the DNC have no shame? This is the first stain on Obama with more to come about his little “board games” and Rezko, but yet me must all follow like sheep and vote for him anyway, if Hillary wants to attach herself to that and get pulled into that shit with the entire lot of them its her chance she is taking.

    If we are to take a cue from the Rezko trial as to the kind of dirty politics, with kickback, money laundering, big deals and scams as the new kind of politics that Obama is brining to the WH well I say leave the dam republicans there, I will not be part of changing one set of people to put in others that are going to bleed the treasury in wonderful deals all over again.

    That is not change that is exchange we are being fooled into moving one set of players to put another group that from day one questions is being raised on what role Obama played with Rezko, I guess they also want us to believe that the republicans will sit quiet on this Rezko event and not point out scandal after scandal of what was going on with those hospital boards in Chicago.

    No I will not be part of that, in time Obama’s name is going to hooked to Rezko, we don’t need a tape the Republicans have the greatest gift they could of asked for, they have Rezko and now its just to wait and see what role Obama played in the senate to get all this money passed between all of them.

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

    choosing a major far-rightwing warmonger (John McCain)

    They did not wait long to attack McCain. And I’m laughing my ass off that the trolls are whining about Democrats for McCain when it is their fault people have done this! ;) Ye sow what ye reap.

    Hey trolls there are no caucuses to screw with in the GE and its winner take all. That Western state strategy has a snowball’s chance in hell.

    But you and Obama will implode before the convention and Hillary will save the party and us from you and Obama.

  • Mel

    All the lousy arguements against voting for McCain campare on a whole as a slight hick up compared to having a communist in the White House!

    Obama is a deep rooted Communist, taught by Frank Marshall Davis! Anyone who knows anything knows Obama is so deeply rooted in this, his life path proves it!

    What is ironic is Blacks overwhelmingly supported Obama, and if they did even a tad bit of reading would have learned Obama’s mentor although Black, placed communism above race! Incredible how stupid people have proven themselves, Obama’s mentor was against going to war against Hitler even when the world was on board!

    Ah how stupid those Obama voters are to accept the words of an unknown, but to those who do know, took the time to learn who the guy actually is, will fight for Democracy over communism all the way!

    And trolls, crawl back into your Palestine bunkers and cash your Obama troll checks fast they will be worthless shortly!

  • DebColorado

    I used to read this site back around 2004, thought it was a great place to see what was going on with the Plame thing, etc. Now all I see is the hate and vitriol comparable with the most right wing wacko sites’s…. you are the most hateful group I have yet to see, how many of you also hang out a LGF? Quite a few it seems. You are not anywhere near the attitude of patriots which is what we need now. You embarrass me.. and should try and see beyond your own little prideful rants. I am a Hillary supporter and really was pulling for her… I saw it as a good process for all Democrats, politics is politics. So as all of you leave the party (after a few months R->D->R?) don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!!! AMF!!!

  • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

    Pastor Manning sends this urgent message to Hillary Clinton

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuysWJDP6J4

  • Gamzulatov

    Medusa and red dragon,

    I was thinking about changing my name to some kind of mythical creature also.

    Do you think there is a creature that is half Puma and Half Eagle.

    That would be one awesome Obama hating arugula eating creature!

    Hillary ROX MY SOX!

  • joeysky

    Go back to DU.

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **==

    Now all I see is the hate and vitriol comparable with the most right wing wacko sites’s….

    New talking points? ;)

    Yawn.

  • Mickey

    Have you guys seen the latest Zerox nobama has said this past tuesday. when is this guys going to come up with his own words!!!

    http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/obama-pep-rally-speech-recycles-mario-cuomo-lines-1984-video

  • Deep Truths

    Nah, nah, nah, Not God bless Obama, God DAMN OBama!
    Which part of that don’t you understand.

    You Obama weasels have denigrated Hillary and her supporters for six months. And you expect that within a couple of months we would simply forget and come together.

    Tell Obama he is a uniter – we’re all united against him. PUMA that!

  • Ben Dover Bitches

    P. Soles… I think you’re on to something here. Henceforth you shall all be known as the Pink Pussies!

    Now that’s a party I can get behind.

  • candymarl

    Now, now. Calm down. Just because you speak from first hand experience what do you know?

    I mean just because you live in his district and have seen what he hasn’t done for his own community, what do you know?

    You’re using facts. You obviously care for the poor in your community. You fought to get them help. Ergo you are a racist.

    /sarcasm off

  • Mel

    Rather the door be hitting there than thinking there like many who attempt to justify the sorts of actions taken by the media, trolls and DNP against the most qualified candidate in favor of the most pathetic, unqualified, dirtiest and bile candidate in history!

  • ulahane

    That would be a Griffin. What grade are you in?

  • Kickass Old Lady

    No, dear, we are not democrats, not any longer. We are independents now, because we care about voters rights. We care about the process of democracy, and we value it more highly than the rights you speak of. I was a lifelong democrat, but until the democratic party reforms their election process, I am now an independent.
    As for your list of rights that you are worried about all but one will be fine, because we will have a democratic congress. Reproductive rights? This may be something young women will have to fight for. They are choosing to vote for the most inexperienced and unvetted candidate any party has put up for nomination. The democratic party refuses to vet their candidates before swooning. This is one of the major reasons I am leaving the party. They have turned into a party of losers choosing losers.

  • RedStateTurnedBlueForHillary
  • Antonia

    I’m a 61 year old women, a nurse, mother of 5 and I strongly support a women’s right to pursue anything she wants. I definitly believe in equal rights for men and women. That being said, I support Obama and feel he is the better person for president. Not because he is a man and Clinton is a women, but because I think he is the better person.
    Obama and Clinton were running for president not for your life time mate. It is not suppose to be a love affair it is an election.
    As the saying goes, put on your big girl panties and get over it.

  • kenoshaMarge

    You saw it as a good process for all Democrats? Are you really that stupid? We’re hateful? Maybe some of us are. Maybe some of us are just outraged at the travesty of democracy that has been perpetrated on the American people. But if you find us so hateful what are you doing here? Giving us a good talking to? What a pinhead!

    Whatever, our reasons are our reasons and I doubt very much that you were ever a supporter of Senator Clinton. So you are not only a liar, you are a stupid liar.

    And don’t bother sticking around all us hateful people. We aren’t very polite to twits that come over to our house and pee on the carpet. Only freepers and Obamatrolls do that.

  • samanthasmom

    And a smart woman like Olympia Snowe or Sarah Palin for VP would help, too.

  • rjj

    Think generations and generations and generations adapted to/immersed in intensity: long cold winters, privation, and despotic governments – with only ballet, bad painting, and vodka for consolation.

    Once they leave they become a little, um, fizzy.

    Anyone would.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

    And because most of Obama’s sycophants (don’t know the meaning of that word) no nothing about politics, have never voted before and/or only follow the talking points designed by Axelrove, they don’t know that

    John McCain was John Kerry’s first choice as VP.

    For the little ones reading this: John Kerry ran for president (that’s the executive office) against George Bush (the current president). Kerry was a Democrat (that was the party of the people before it was stolen by the crooked Chicago political machine).

    It’s no coincidence that Oprah lives in Chicago, was member of TUCC, and is funding BO. Apparently she did a “happy dance” on national TV yesterday.

    Sweet Jesus, may the vultures come home to roost.

  • snoopy

    Comment by roseeriter | 2008-06-05 08:58:33

    Hillary was screwed in every way possible.

    That’s not a very nice thing to say about our first lady……fella…

  • kenoshaMarge

    Oh and just out of curiosity, what made you think anyone gave a rat’s ass about what you think?

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    RedDragon, you go right ahead!

  • Five Thirty

    I got that association as well, which is why I am not so crazy about the acronym.

  • AngryWhitePerson

    Enough with the fucking lies already.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    Irish,
    Us damned Irish and Italians! We just won’t shut up!

  • ulahane

    “We don’t go to there cave and bother them” That’s because all their caves are very censored. No freedom of speech wanted. A foreshadowing of the nightmare an Obama presidency would be.

  • SJ

    Let the Obamabots keep it up, yeah they will get my vote am sure of it. So as they hit all the blogs saying Hillary should concede and to suspend her campaign, while they keep saying the worst things about her, while the all laugh and have a good time, yep keep wishing for my vote to go to Obama.

    Keep wishing as I said, keep wishing, keep wishing, keep wishing…….

  • SJ

    Let the Obamabots keep it up, yeah they will get my vote am sure of it. So as they hit all the blogs saying Hillary should concede and not suspend her campaign, while they keep saying the worst things about her, while the all laugh and have a good time, yep keep wishing for my vote to go to Obama.

    Keep wishing as I said, keep wishing, keep wishing, keep wishing…….

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    DEB…..

    you don’t know Us! To call Us a racist’ or insinuate that we are hateful is pretty ignorant. You don’t know why so many of us are angry. I’m sorry the truth is painful for you to read, but to insinuate that we are racist or hateful is pretty extreme don’t you think?

  • SJ

    Let the Obamabots keep it up, yeah they will get my vote am sure of it. So as they hit all the blogs saying Hillary should concede and not suspend her campaign, while they keep saying the worst things about her, while they all laugh and have a good time, yep keep wishing for my vote to go to Obama.

    Keep wishing as I said, keep wishing, keep wishing, keep wishing…….

  • cdog

    Don’t think of them as ” new talking points”….think of them as more of that fertilizer you asked for.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    Chicago does have Magical Powers. Dead people have been voting by absentee ballot for nearly a century.

  • Deep Truths

    Cheer up. Hillary has to play along for the facade of party unity. Meanwhile the DNC is broke, Obama is stingy, and Obama has many many shoes to fall. When Obamas’ shoes drop they bounce back up and fall again. Witness how Rev. Wright’s taste never left and Rezko’s just warming up.

    We’re are in a good place right now. Let Obama attempt to climb this mountain with bullets and arrows hurled his way. Obama,his supporters and the DNC deserve exactly what they are getting today. Blowback.

  • joeysky

    The hate there will better suit your taste.

  • Eurogirl70

    Or

    To pick up where Uppity left off…..

    A Masochist!!

  • Lizzie

    I agree with you ladies, although I am 26 years old, if R v. W gets overturned, too bad. My mom (about your age) had to fight the good fight, while many of my friends sit on their laurels, explaining how they don’t believe in abortion but yes, they go to Planned Parenthood to get their birth control pills. The scare tactics are empty…I’m voting McCain all the way.

  • TR

    Hi Larry….thanks very much for your blog here.

    I’m a democrat of 30 years. The 2000 election, the current economic state and the Iraq war remains the defining moments in my recent political life.

    And I must admit that the democrats have shown little or no spine in any of the above. The only spine they have shown is that in pushing Hillary and the Clintons (remember peace and prosperity in the 90′s) down a flight of stairs?

    Why? I can only surmise that they believe that they, as individuals and a group, will have much more power pulling the strings on a very inexperienced Obama from behind the scenes.

    What does that now tell me about my party?

    They are far more interested in their own political advancements than they are of solving this country’s problems.

    With Hillary out, I am undecided for the fall election at this time…..but I am leaning McCain based on his long past record of standing up against his own party, when he felt he was right.

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    No. I was replying to a troll post, but something’s wrong with the comment posting this morning.

  • sjl106

    Justin McCain is already committed to global warming and renewable energy, he spoke about it on Tuesday night and several other times before. McCain and Hillary convinced several other members of Congress to go with them to the Antartic so they could show them the effects of Global Warming. This had always been a bi-partisan issue in fact it was Teddy Rosevelt (R) who initiated the concern for our environment, along with voting against cheney’s energy bill obama voted for it, proves he cares more than obama. He has also promised to regulate the health insurance industry, neither one of the candidates believe in UHC though McCain wants to give more of a tax credit than obama to help people buy it. I know that McCain will do what is right when he becomes President and I know that he believes in our country and will restore us on our path back to the future.

    The DNC and The RBC allowed the disenfranchisement of 2.5 million people and allowed obama to squash a revote for both of them, then they decided to usurp the will of the voters for their own when they had no authority to do so (regardless if the michigan leadership proposed it)and what the democratic party did was worse than what the Supreme Court did in 2000. Since then our government with bush’s dictatorial inspirations have taken hold of this new culture and if “we the people” allow this to continue we will not beable to stop this and it will completely destroy our country, Constitution, and her meaning. I will vote for McCain to stop this and work very hard to stop the dems from continuing the killing of a great nation that has continued the quest in the realization of American Exceptualism and realizing her fullest postential.

  • Eurogirl70

    I have been a “true” Democrat for 20 years. I have always put party above candidate. I will not support a party that disenfranchises voters, turns its’ back on the popular vote, and vilifies an absolutely wonderful woman as a rascist shrew!

    I am done as well!!

  • Myshiba

    BOTTOM LINE:

    Obama is incompetent, spineless, unqualified, and immoral. Obviously not presidential material.
    Hillary or McCain! Vote for a true American!

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    Gamzulatov, (_|_)!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I am over it. I started getting over it when Indiana primary ended. That was a big loss, even though it was a win.

    I got over it, decided what I’d do, and am on track with my own plan.

    I will be focusing on supporting some new blood in Washington, hoping to oust some of the tyrants who railroaded this election.

    I will also be listening carefully to McCain to see if I can hold my nose and vote for him. I think I’ll be able to do it, particularly if he puts a woman on the ticket.

    For entertainment? I am looking forward to the Republican campaign against Obama. It will be a joy to behold as they strip away his elitist attitudes and call it like it is. It will just be fun to see Michelle get her due, too. She’s been so nasty this primary season that I really am looking forward to seeing her revealed in all her glorious negativity.

    So I’m set.

  • Kevin

    I think what it came down to was that Sen. Clinton is too tied to the party to defect. Also, retiring her debt is probably a big concern. She will suspend and hope the other shoe (of a dozen) drops soon, that would be the MO rant.

    Meanwhile, I’m going to haul my formerly democratic but now apparently racist white butt to McCain. And I have advised my congresscritters that I will no longer vote for them, nor send them $. I live in MA so it is “tilting at windmills”, but I hope we can put a scare into Kerry and Frank.

  • Concerned

    Excuse me,

    I don’t mind if you vote for McCain… but this is the most self-centered thing I’ve ever heard. What if your parents had told you, “Sorry, I’m old, doesn’t affect me anymore, you’ll have to go re-fight WW2 again”, hmm? Are you really so calloused that you’d want your daughters, and their daughters to have to live through a second age of backalley coathanger abortions?

    Is this really what it’s come to?

  • samanthasmom

    Obama actually thinks that it should be up to the generals to decide about lesbians and gays in the military. Progressive, much?

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    I just signed up as a McCain supporter. I was going to wait until Saturday, but Gamzulatov and Walter.windchill@gmail.com have convinced me that I need to start working for him now.
    Good job, guys. Your representation for Obama was about what I expected, and I wasn’t disappointed. Keep up the good work.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    I notice that Obama IS Dukakis, only taller. At least in terms of outcome. But Mike at least was a gentleman.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    upset. You seem upset. In an obsessive-compulsive kind of way.

  • Kevin

    Ordered my yardsign today

  • Nadabama

    Big Tex hated his now dead mother, yet writes about her in platitudes. When it serves his purpose!

    He suffers from the Obama syndrome of love/hate for his mother which makes him cling to men and denigrate women such as Hillary Clinton.

    He cannot stand the thoughts of a woman having control over any aspect of his life, especially his emotions, as his mother did.

    Quote from Big Tex re his mother: ” She was a tough bitch when she needed to be, but never towards anyone who didn’t deserve it.”

    Yet he just calls Hillary Clinton a bitch, and claims Hillary deserves denigration!

    Sad, Sad. Hamlet/Obama/Big Tex, all confused mother haters!

    Big Tex’s psychological problem re women is prevalent among Obama minions, and drives their male savior psychosis.

  • ulahane

    The simple fact is that Roe V. Wade will NOT be overturned under McCain. Congress will not approve any Supreme Court appointment that favors overturning it.

  • Deep Truths

    Damn, you just represented Obama very well: a fucker with a small pecker.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    I don’t mind if you vote for McCain

    Thanks for your permission. In a Marxist society, it is required.

    Is this really what it’s come to?

    In a word, Yes.

    Now I will give you my regular roe v wade “threat” answer:

    If my younger sisters lose Roe Wade it will be their own fault for taking the rights they have for granted, because they didn’t fight for them. They are complacent and can take the time to swoon over a sexy empty suit who has already set gender relations back a minimum of 30 years, and we haven’t even gotten to the General Election campaign yet. Serves them right. Not my problem. I know how not to get pregnant.

    It’s my job to protect the rights I fought for that matter to me. This is a misogynist’s campaign and if younger women are too busy spawning over Leland Gaunt handing out Needful Things and discussing his vibrating phone when he leans on one of them, then they will have to learn to take the consequences of their own folly along with the consolations. Maybe then they will Get It. I have already done well in my life. Complacency is their enemy, not mine. Let em eat vibrating cell phones.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    Now there is a poster child for abortion! The world would have been better off if his Daddy used a Tissue and flushed the creature down the toilet!

  • ulahane

    Good question. A Griffin is a lion/eagle mix or any similar mixture of big cat and bird of prey. I’m sure Ovid wouldn’t have split hairs about it.

  • yo mama

    In the next 5 months, will BO morph into a real candidate? Doubt it.

    1st choice: Hillary
    2nd choice: McCain

  • Gamzulagriffintov

    Is that supposed to be an eagle?

    Cause if it is. It ROX MY SOX!

  • Lizzie

    Thanks for this story Larry! It really needed to be shared. After the media has thrown Hillary under the bus, it’s time for McCain 2008!

  • Kevin

    Beautiful response.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    QUIT RIPPING OFF OTHER PEOPLES WORK.

  • Kevin

    good response Uppity.

    The Democrats.com page has the saviour on the home page. What they forget is a sizeable amount of non-obamaites will not vote for him, will vote/work for mccain or will write in HC. But please e-mail the DNC and keep on their mailing lists so they can waste $ pursuing non dem voters and people who won’t give them $.

  • Nag

    Oh, LOL… you Obama nuts really crack ME up. Do you know what damage to our young minds Bill Ayers could do with his school “programs” in an Obama presidency? Do you know how easily the Chicago Combine could rape the US treasury if they had one of their own in the White House? Do you even have an inkling of the havoc that could be wreaked in race relations by a bunch of Blacj Liberation Thoelogists with closwe ties to the POTUS?

    Get fucking real with your tired “oh, you are not Democrats” bullshit and take a look at your flawed Marxist can What kind of Democrat are you to be for a Marxist candidate who could do as much damage if not more to our Democracy than George W Bush?

    Go away. We will not change our minds. You’d better think long and hard about what you are about to do in Nov.

  • Concerned

    So long as Congress remains Democratic, yes. But I’m not about to start making predictions for how Congress is going to look after the 2010 elections, and I’d prefer not to even set up the possibility of that situation.

    However, that’s not the point. I posted because I am quite frankly shocked that anyone could so openly claim their willingness to condemn the next several generations of women out of spite.

    You are right about one thing, though; the voting in this primary was largely Old vs Young, but do you know what? It happens. Every few decades, in fact. You did it to your parents and grandparents, as you voted in candidates that reflected your worldview, and now your children and grandchildren are doing it to you. Just as my children and grandchildren will eventually do.

    This entire primary, I’ve had Bob Dylan stuck in my head.

    “Oh the times, they are a-changin’”

    (We’ll gloss over the fact that my generation lacks a good Dylan analogue. It’s incredibly sad. ;) )

  • Donkey Brazziere

    You’re either with us , or against us.

    Sorry. I’ve heard that before.

  • Nag

    Oh, LOL… you Obama nuts really crack ME up.

    Do you know what damage to our young minds Bill Ayers could do with his school “programs” in an Obama presidency?
    Do you know how easily the Chicago Combine could rape the US treasury if they had one of their own in the White House?
    Do you even have an inkling of the havoc that could be wreaked in race relations by a bunch of Black Liberation Theologists with close ties to the POTUS?

    Get fucking real with your tired “oh, you are not Democrats” bullshit and take a look at your flawed Marxist candidate. What kind of Democrat are you to be for a Marxist candidate who could do as much damage if not more to our Democracy than George W Bush?

    Go away. We will not change our minds. You’d better think long and hard about what you are about to do in Nov.

  • Five Thirty

    stealing votes….

    See – that is the thing. Plus the DNC campaigning against HRC for months, telling her to drop out, allowing their members (such as D. Brazile)to go on tv and undermine HRC’s campaign.

    I am a Democrat politically but can’t support what today’s DNC has made of the Party, especially vote theft.

  • http://thesquidsink.blogspot.com the squid

    If you’re pro-life, pro the Iraq war, anti gay marriage, and for a third term of bush’s economic policies, be sure to vote for mccain.

    Maybe you can make Senator Clinton the new nader and just write her in.

    If you vote for mccain you are Not a Democrat.

  • Nadabama

    What is going on with the Obama fawners now is exactly what goes on with wife-beating or child-abusing spouses.
    They are begging their victims to come home, please give them another chance, while at the same time blameing the victim for the situation.

    They beat, punch, denigrate, torture, and try to psychologically enslave their victims. They feel all powerful until someone or something intercedes and they feel they are losing their power over said victims.

    Then they grovel, cajole, and beg for another chance, while still intermittently harassing their victims if the persuasion seems not to be working.

    Wise or rescued victims never return to their clutches, remove them from their lives, and avoid them like the plague.

    The resolve and common goal of Clinton supporters is shelter. We do not have to deal with the psychoactive projections of the Obama minions.

    We shall avoid them like the plague, while understanding their psychosis is not our problem!

    Obama cannot and will not win and his abusive, insufferable supporters know it! We hold the keys!

  • Nick

    I have to agree. I want to fight to make things better for my children. I don’t want them to have to go through the same things I did.

  • s. hall

    amen to that — Working Class. I respect Hillary’s decision but it does not and never will effect my decision. If I had been treated like Hillary was by the Demonazi Party I would have walked and taken my delegates with me. I would not have allowed Nancy and Howard to talk down to me like that.

    I was a Hillary Precinct Captain for the last year and a half. She was in my thoughts 24/7 — but I always kept in the back of my mind that I would not vote for Obama under any circumstances. No matter how much the media or the Democratic Party pushed him. I will be a Democrat for McCain (although I just switched to Independent) because he stands for whats right about this country. He approaches the job with humility and a love for this nation that Obama couldn’t even begin to understand.

    I believe that McCain is starting to come across more as a moderate which will help pry alot of people from our party. God bless him and keep him well. I just hope the media starts doing its job and that the powers that be have not anointed Obama.

  • Astronobot

    I’m new here, and interested in understanding where this blog is coming from. Having been a Dean supporter, and having had to help Kerry even after all the dirty tricks and unfair coverage, I think I can get some of the sentiment I’ve read above. On the other hand, there are a lot of “inside” references to things ‘we all know about’ that are confusing to me. As a worried Democrat who’s not so in love with the party and almost never got to pull the lever for a candidate I loved, I hope to learn something here about what’s standing between all of you and all of the Obama people (I was a Richardson gal, so consider myself a visitor in both camps). Understandable if you consider me a troll fishing before I pounce, but I really am here visiting to learn. Thanks to anyone who can help me see your side.

  • forbes

    As a non-US citizen this is really interesting to watch.
    All those of you who are now ‘leaving for McCain’ clearly confirms what many expressed beforehand: McCain/Hillary what’s the difference? They both would’ve been 4 more years.

    So you tacked along the Clinton trail just for the laughs or what? Now that it’s over you drift back into the fold.

    I believe that Obama would be far the best that could happen to USA, just think new Supreme Court judges or Iraq.

    But for the rest of the world Republican rule has been a great improvement: I’m sure Putin has been watching Bush’s suicidal policies with amazement. Iran is thrilled by its new strong position after the invasion of Iraq. US is a shadow of its former self, South America is blooming in the absence of a clear us-strategy, Europe is maturing to the challenges of a world without US supremacy.

  • David

    I can only speak for myself and my wife(both lifelong Dems 20+ years) McCain has our vote come November.

  • PKJayne

    Hope and Change isn’t a platform.

  • s. hall

    linda — Obama isn’t into mending fences thats why he’s got trolls. Hillary or McCain — no other option.

  • FORCEFIELD

    I don’t think you know the definition of “Facism”.

  • Gamzulagriffintov

    Yeah Linda if you Love OBAMA so much, why don’t you marry him?

  • s. hall

    Justin–If I could do it after voting Democratic for 44 years — you can do it too. Lets all be Republicans for a Day.

  • FORCEFIELD

    Hey Milli,

    I think you may have accidentally spilled beer on your caps lock.

  • nexus

    Greatest generation my foot

  • Snowball

    You people are fanatical self-defeating morons. You should have left the party with the rest of the racists back in the 60s. If you think having four more years of Bush regime policies and two to three more far right justices apointed to the Supreme Court (you must not care about women’s rights or Roe vs Wade) is better than the possibility of having a black Democratic president, then you aren’t now, and never have been, a Democrat.

  • Nadabama

    I would surmise you are the one with the “love/worship” problem, Antonia.

    Like all Obama messianics you give no reason for truly supporting Obama, other than “he is a better person”!

    You have certainly “known” him a long time haven’t you?

    He is ephemeral, he is a mirage. You are in love with an Image!

    We support HRC because we know who she is, what she desires to actually accomplish, and because she is “not perfect”.

    We know she is human, has flaws, yet we still know she is best to be President. She is like us, we too have flaws. Yet, we work for what we get, don’t ask for hand-outs, and we get the job done.

    Watch us get it done against your idol!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I agree. McCain and Hillary do share a lot of common ground, and Obama is distinct.

    Policy-wise? Not close. Hillary’s health care plan is far more progressive than Obama’s. So is her economic plan. Ditto for her energy plan. Obama is pretty milktoast, and uninspiring in that arena.

    McCain and she are similar in terms of bi-partisanship experience, knowing how to get things done, and they agree on energy issues.

    He’s very conservative on health care. Not his deal. He’d ignore it, frankly.

    I’m waiting to hear about the economy. He’s going to be closer to me, I think, than Obama. Obama’s lack of knowledge about capital gains taxes sure frightened me! I live off, in part, of stocks. So he’s a disaster personally. I won’t vote for him based on that issue alone.

    McCain will definitely leave my own finances alone, but he may not help the overall picture. We’ll see. I’m listening. But I’m assuming he’s a Republican and he’ll have too much of a hands-off policy.

    Obama is a disaster on the foreign policy front. Other than making Europeans happy, he’ll screw that up totally.

    So, the choices will become clearer before the election.

    All this stuff about his origins? I don’t think it’s relevant. I think he’s a president in the pocket of Washington insiders.

    That’s why I think his entire campaign is a joke. He IS the insider.

    Obviously, Hillary was the true populist and the true outsider.

  • s. hall

    bert — ditto

  • Nadabama

    Excellent post Medusa!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Now, I’m so happy you’re starting to get our message.

    You got it.

    We have exited the Democratic Party.

    bye-bye…..

  • s. hall

    american — A couple of months ago Bill Clinton said there are two people who loves this country and would make great leaders, my wife and John McCain.

  • s. hall

    american — A couple of months ago Bill Clinton said there are two people who love this country and would make great leaders, my wife and John McCain.

  • forbes

    It seems like self serving hurt is more important than reality in this forum. So you engage in a self destructive rant and you just might carry it on till November while AlQaida, Putin, Ahmedinejad and all the others who have benefited from Bush are cheering on.

    I, for one, still see Obama as the best choice for America while McCain is the best for the rest of the world.

    So all your false democrats, Go for it, vote America down the drain, while the bad guys are laughing their asses off.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Actually, there’s a big difference on policy issues. Look at taxes. He’s a disaster. Look at health care. Same thing. Look at foreign policy. He’s scary. Look at economy. *yikes* Look at energy. His record is appalling.

    The policy issues actually are quite substantial.

  • s. hall

    West Palm — now the trolls want to stomp on us till 100% of us support Obama. I will vote for Obama when Hell freezes over.

  • cheryl holtquist

    I am not a wayward progressive. I am a citizen of the United States of America. I care about the future for all children. I am 61 years old and I would never vote for a morally insane person such as John McCain. Besides, who would be running the country if he won? He was fifth from the bottom of a class of over 900 graduating cadets.Is this someone you want in charge of our lives? He also is a convenient liar. I am deeply saddened regarding the state of our country and the propaganda that abounds. cheryl

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    When I explained to my Gen-X son that Obama’s tax policies would mean I probably wouldn’t be able to leave him an inheritance……

    LOL*

    Let me tell you, his tune changed. :)

  • s. hall

    Unity Schmunity — I will vote for the best man for the job John McCain.

  • rjj

    can you spell N-E-W-O-N-Z, forbes?

  • Danielle

    I’ve never seen so much stupid self-delusion packed into one place. Congratulations! Yes, let’s continue the Bush Cheney years because the candidate with a vagina failed to win the nomination. Capital plan.

  • McCaine4Prez

    You people are fucking morons, I would rather die in a fire than have a bunch of ignorant sots vote for republicans out of spite for a democratic candidate.

    Whatever, you all are so ignorant it makes me physically ill.

    Pro-Tip: The capslock doesn’t make your opinions more important.

  • s. hall

    Obama doesn’t give a chit about anybody but himself. I remember when those 700 people died from the heat and they took their bodies away in Moving Trucks. Shame on Obama and shame on us if we vote for him.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I’m not quite that cynical. I think Hillary is experienced and knows how to walk the line on most of her statements. She’s learned from experience that you have to live by them later.

    Obama? He’s a goof.

    McCain? He’s known for being a renegade and will just say, “Pshhhhh.”

    It’s who has the ability to connect with real people. Hillary does. But she’s also hamstringed by being the “woman.” God knows, if she ever just let it rip, the world would go mad. Even her gentle remarks get the media boys so upset. They all have mother hang-ups, obviously.

    Being a mother myself, I get it. I have to be very, very careful with my adult son. I have TOO much power, even today. And he’s a grown man. When I figured that out finally, we started getting along. I like to say I sound like my grandmother these days. Nothing but positive because the slightest criticism sends him into a tizzy.

    Women have too much emotional power. Not enough position power.

    Hillary’s campaign showed us all the challenge. We just have to balance this better in the future for our daughters.

    It’s silly stuff, really.

  • Dick Bush

    To all you so-called Democrats who are sore losers and probably closet racists, go vote for John McBush. You think you have it bad now, just wait. Obama has taken the high road from the beginning. He has done nothing but be respectful the entire race. Even when Billary threw party destroying trash cans at him, he remained positive and composed. We don’t need shallow people in the party anyway. Just be prepared for high gas prices, the elimination of roe vs. wade, a non ending war, no health care initiatives, a busted national budget, tons more soldiers killed, a potential war with Iran, escalated food prices and disrespect around the world. The Flip-Flop express has left the station, go jump on! And don’t complain like the idiots that now have buyers remorse over the current Dummy in the whitehouse.

  • TheTerroristsWon

    Ooooo, terrorists! Terrorists are everywhere. They are setting on the boarders, and the minute W is out of office they are going to get me! OOOOOOO help me! Heeeeelp meeeeeee!

  • dick bush

    To all you so-called democrats and closet racists, go vote for McBush. You think you have it bad now, just wait. Obama has taken the high road from day one. Even when your selfish candidate threw trash can at him. Get ready for the elimination of roe vs. wade, sky high gas prices, a never ending war and disrespect around the world. You don’t deserve a good president.

  • s. hall

    WMCB — a bunch of us from Taylor’s blog have gone over to bitterpoliticz. I am hill08. The whole gang is there. Hope you can join us when you get a chance. Miss you.

  • ulahane

    The exact same arguments over and over and over again. Come on Obamabots, you can do better. Have an original thought, any thought. It can even be a bad one. We will all be too shocked to pick on it.

    Burn your talking points! You can do it.

  • ulahane

    Is there an echo in here? Didn’t you say virtually the same a moment ago?

  • debi

    reddragon62 I agree with you, what I can not understand is if they don’t need us or want us, then why do they come here and try to get us to fall in line? I think they do need the votes, but would never admit to it….

  • debi

    RedDragon62 I agree with you, but what I can’t understand is if they do not need our vote, then why are they here trying to get us to fall in line. I think they know they need us, and they know if everyone votes McCain they will lose….

  • rjj

    How’s Stephen Harper working out for you folks up there, forbes?

  • Bob

    Dixie-Crats for McCain!

    The South WILL rise again!

  • s. hall

    http://camille424.wordpress.com/ This is the link for bitterpoliticz–see ya WMCB. As you know Taylor is going for Obama and the trolls have taken over.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Be still my heart. We’ve made you ill?

    That’s just too good to be true stuff.

    I so thank you for sharing.

    Enough of you say it, I’ll feel happy.

  • Darryl

    I love the pink panther! How great! I am so getting me one of those stickers!

  • rjj

    I must admit I am troubled that McCain was a pilot, but bottom of his class? — not really.

  • X

    Two things.

    (1) Larry Johnson — grow the fuck up already you pathetic attention whore. If you really would vote against America’s best interests by helping a Republican take the White House then there’s a dam good reason why we’re all better off not having you and your piss-poor judgment in the CIA anymore.

    (2) I hope you folks like having seven ultraconservative right-wing justices on the Supreme Court. Civil Liberties, eh, who needs’em. So let me get this straight, because your candidate can’t be permitted to break the rules to win, then no Democrat deserves to be in the White House? Way to cut off your nose to spite your face folks.

    So ladies, purchase your burqas now while they’re cheap, because the American Taliban will be coming for you if McSame is allowed to become president and he gets his paws on the Supreme Court and the rest of the federal judiciary.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Oh good….you mean you don’t want our votes?

    That’s good to hear.

    I’m looking forward to the day you finally really, really get it.

    We don’t want on the unity bus.

    We’re waving bye-bye.

    THEN, I’m hoping we can get back to business and discuss issues with like-minded people.

    And that won’t include the Obama idiots. You guys can’t even read and are nothing but disruptive, everywhere you go.

    So I’m hoping you truly are giving up.

    We do NOT wish to join the New Democratic Party.

    Good-bye!

  • ulahane

    Any qualified Democrat deserves to be president. Unfortunately Obama is neither qualified nor a Democrat.

    Forget the supreme court talking point. The Democrat controlled Senate will never approve it. Bush couldn’t end Roe V. Wade when he had a Republican congress and you think McCain could do it with a Democrat one? How omnipotent do you think he is?

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    So ladies, purchase your burqas now while they’re cheap, because the American Taliban will be coming for you.

    Actually, I think that’s what will happen if Obama is president.
    And while I don’t know Larry personally and have no connection to him other than reading his blog, I’d rather trust someone with the guts to express his opinion using his own name rather some anonymous hooligan who calls himself “X”.

  • forbes

    Just to make it clear I’m not a us citizen. I live in the Eurasian continent.

    We have a great affection for the US over here. You have done great things for the world in the past. But the Bush adm. has so clearly shown us how dangerous it is to have only one super power with corrupt leadership.

    Luckily for most of us (unfortunately not for the Iraqis) Bush has exposed how weak the US has become and how it is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Even the current crisis is mostly happening in the US while the rest of the world goes about its normal business.

    In my personal opinion is that if you want US to regain its importance in the future you should accept that Obama won and go for a democratic president.

    But apparently the current state of affairs is well deserved and an expression of the true nature of your nation – at least if the comments here are representative.

    My first prediction is McCain wins, Halliburton will steal billions more of public $, KBR will do the same, Cheney and Co. will continue to funnel public fundings into their private projects. Tax cuts for the rich – no health care for Middle America – sub par health care for the troops. Schooling even more expensive – foreclosures at an even higher rate than what you experience today.

    My second prediction is that several states will seek to loosen their ties with the union. The reasons will be
    1) public health care – they will create their own solutions,
    2) climate change legislation (now hindered by Bush)
    3) The National Guard – states will want full control over their young volunteers – they don’t want to see them send overseas and extended indefinitely.

    This is what you’ll be voting for when you vote McCain.

    If the next election can be judged by the past two elections America WILL be voting for that exciting future.

    So why does a foreigner care about the US election? Well I’m old enough to have felt the importance of US rebuilding Europe after WWII. So somehow I wish for Americans to be able to live prosperous and peaceful lives – I want Americans to be loved and looked upon with admiration by the rest of the world. This was mostly the case until the Republicans showed their true face with the Iraq invasion. Now that is all but gone. But not only that, your wealth and influence is melting away at an alarming speed. That’s wy it is so hard for me (and for most other non-americans) to understand why such destructive and suicidal policies can win any votes at all.

    This forum, I would expect, would be against those policies but what I’m seeing is that personal sentiments takes precedent over rational thinking. You wow to support further demise of the US. As I wrote above all the bad guys are probably laughing – and trust me, if at some time it looks as if Obama is going to win they will likely voice open support for him in the hope it will destroy his chances.

  • dick bush

    like I said go just on the Flip Flop express..sore loser

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    Just to make it clear I’m not a us citizen. I live in the Eurasian continent.

    Then your opinion is worthless to me. Sorry.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I agree. The threat of Roe vs. Wade needs to be addressed, frankly.

    But more important, I agree that he never really has been a Democrat.

    He’s run a third-party campaign with our logo.

  • rjj

    I do that, too. I put on a vacant look, dab around with a dishcloth, fuss with whatever is at hand, blithering on and on at great length about nothing, smiling benignly until he caves in. It’s called The Treatment.

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    If I get on the “flip flop” express, then wouldn’t that make me an Obama supporter along with the last Democratic loser, John Kerry?

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  • SM

    Hey – I came up with the name as a joke on Riverdaughter’s blog that I was joining a new party called the PUMA party, and the brilliant Riverdaughter wrote this great post behind the idea. And it worked because it’s spreading!

    It is

    P arty
    U nity
    M y
    A ss

    And now the Brilliant Murphy from the Corrente Building made it into a 527 PAC org!!

    Officially it’s:

    P eople
    U nited
    M eans
    A ction

    So it’s both.

    Together with Corbett’s Operation Turndown, we have the PUMAs, we have Democrats for McCain, see, I can’t vote for McCain – but I won’t be cajoled to voting for the 0bambi.

  • Eric

    You are truly a deranged and ignorant person. You rtrue colors come through with your irrational rants about him being a criminal and a delinquent. You are just making things up to justify your obviously racist feelings. While everyone who won’t vote for him isn’t a racist, with your “send him to Africa” comment you truly are. For the rest of you nutjobs, go ahead and vote for John McCain. Just don’t complain when you can’t get healthcare, pay for gas, lose a woman’s right to choose, get more Alitos on the Surpreme Court and your relatives die in Iraq ten years from now. At least you will feel better.

  • rwc

    Except a Democratic congress will short stop him from implementing them.

    Say hello to gridlock.

    And Roe v. Wade will never be over turned because it would cost them GOP its evangelical base. IOW they’d have no reason to vote anymore.

  • Darryl

    This is a typical obama blogger. He may be getting paid for it. This is a fallacy of Composition.—just because McCain is a republican doesn’t necessarily mean that his stance on issue is that of Bushes, it also doesn’t mean that just because Hillary and Obama are Democrats, that their actions and issues are the same or more similiar. This idea can also be considered a fallacy of Division. Just because Obama and Hillary have similiar policies in one set and McCain another, doesn’t necessarily mean they have all similar properties. You are actually the one refusing to accept the division by committing the fallacy that there is more that we agree on versus McCain than Obama. Even one difference is enough to fail the logical assumption of that argument.

    Obama’s surrogates use many fallacies in their arguments.

    Take for instance the idea that just because Obama is a relatively new senator and therefore new to politics, he is a better choice. This is a fallacy called Novelty. X is new.
    Therefore X is correct or better. That’s a blatant suspension of logic. New isn’t always better, it can, in many cases be worse. Different is just Different for better or worse. What is exactly new about Obama? What issue or solution has he come up with that has never been done before? WHY is that solution any better than others proposed?

    I suggest that is the difference between Obama supporters and everyone else. We are realistic and thus more prone to see logical flaws in many of the arguments in Obama, whether they are conscious or subconscious. I, for one, am very conscious of the logical fallacy that is Obama.

  • Pandora

    I am a Hillary supporter and happen to go to McCain’s website. I watched the video McCain that he has on his website when he was a POW and how he served in Vietnam. Sacrifice he has done for the country. His son is serving in Iraq right now. When contrasted that to Obama and his accomplishments gave me a big long pause.

    Even as someone who voted for democrat party line in last 3 election cycles I cannot in good faith vote for Obama over McCain.

  • forbes

    > Then your opinion is worthless to me. Sorry

    Don’t feel sorry, it’s fine with me.

    Of course, my opinion doesn’t count as part of your election. But i think we all need friends.

    Under the Republicans the US has been excessively good at loosing their friends. You are at the moment little by little being decoupled from the world economy and the incentive to help you out is being undermined by Bush’s inflationary policies and the war. At the same time you have lost in economical strength and in military strength. In such times you really want good friends.

    That’s why it is difficult to understand that any American (except the very rich) would support such policies.

  • rjj

    Which bad guys? There are no good guys.

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    You wouldn’t happen to be a member of Hamas, would you? Depending on Obama’s friendship?

  • so saddened

    ditto. the roe overturning bs is just bs. the draft bs is just bs. but if either were to come to pass, i’d just tell those idiots that they caused it.

    screw ‘em. don’t need roe any more and everyone i know is too old to be drafted. we worked for civil rights and women’s rights and the end to the draft. if they screw it up, they can fix it.

    will be voting mccain. just staying home or voting nader or whoever makes a statement, but voting mccain raises the number obambi needs to steal. if the number is high enough, he won’t be able to get away with stealing it.

  • Mark

    I’m sure some of you will actually vote for John McCain. Okay.

    But those who do that might as well admit that they’d just as well vote for George Bush. McCain’s voted the Bush position 95% of the time in 2007 and 100% of the time in 2008. He plans to *never* leave Iran and to attack Iraq.

    Are you really willing to see the military, financial, environmental damage done, because the anger in you is *that* extreme? You need to step back and take a careful look at what you’re contemplating. Then, at least go take a look at Obama’s positions on his website, or some of his speeches. Whatever decision you make, you need to do it seriously and with attention to the lives you will harm, as people lose their jobs, health care, and lives as the result of a McCain presidency.

    Please remember how important this decision is, and approach it with wisdom and reflection.

    Thank you.

  • forbes

    > You wouldn’t happen to be a member of Hamas, would you? Depending on Obama’s friendship?

    !??

    You lost me there – was that an inside joke?

  • Darryl

    I would say a porportionate system of electing nominees is very affirmative action. Either you win or you don’t. There is no getting a share of the prize if you loose. The general election won’t be that way, when he comes up short in these “white” states (which is a majority of the states and electorial districts), he won’t win a certain portion of the electorate, he won’t get anything.

  • so saddened

    just like obambi, you underestimate us.

    the dem party has decided the so-called reagan democrats aren’t needed. they forget that the reagan democrats got reagan elected – twice!

    now we’re the mccain democrats, or the pumas, or whatever. whatever it is that we are will get mccain elected. not that he’s great, just that obambi’s beyond unacceptable.

  • so saddened

    lol!

    and your gen-x son will need your money if obambi has his way. ’cause obambi’s policies could make your son a poor man who will never be able to retire. i wish far better for your son.

  • so saddened

    ditto.

    and i think every troll costs obambi the votes of those few who might actually be open to considering him.

  • Nick

    This sense of resentment towards the next generation really saddens me. It’s our job to fight to make sure the next generation doesn’t go through the same hardships that we did. It would be irresponsible of us to make them fight the same issues we had to fight.

  • forbes

    > Which bad guys? There are no good guys.

    Well, take a look around the world – I mean the World (that one outside the US) and see who benefited and who lost during the Republican rule.
    Putin is stronger than ever
    China is stronger than ever
    Iran is stronger than ever
    Hamas is stronger than ever (even Israel is now talking to them – they know have no choice)
    Hezbollah is stronger than ever
    Kazai of Afghanistan is cooperating with Taleban against the will of the US
    AlQaeda is having a great time in Pakistan

    Do you think all those ‘nice guys’ would want a democratic president?

    But if he looks like winning they will publicly voice support for him in the hope he looses.

    You can take a look around your home world as well and see who gained and who lost during those years. Halliburton, KBR excelling in raping female workers and then getting massive war contracts.

    So my question still remains: Why would an ordinary American vote for such policies?

  • Darryl

    This aguement is fallicous. You are taking A Bush and B McCain and saying that they equal each other. A doesn’t equal B unless of course you live in the magical land of Obamas, where individuals can occupy the same body simultaneously.

    In addition, your premise that McCain wants to stay in Iraq and never leave is false. On his website he has an exit strategy. So once again A doesn’t equal B. You even give evidence of this in your argument 95% doesn’t equal 100%.

    I suggest that maybe the reason Bush failed is because his lack of experience and choice of cabinet made the mission a faliure in addition to no exit strategy. That is definately a possible reason for that outcome. Notice I give actuall reasons rejecting the possibility that two different variable can equal each other. Therefore my arguement is more logically sound. Notice I used the word possible, because nothing is concrete untill it occurs in reality. That is another problem with the argument, you are inserting an outcome that hasn’t occured yet.

  • so saddened

    i share lone star’s state, and wish it were not so. but as a true democrat, i.e., one who believes in democracy, not one who cleaves blindly to a party label that has become antithetical to its name, i recognize that lone star is entitled to speak his/her piece and vote his/her choice.

    oh, what a lovely country we would have if that were still the case for all of us. (of course, we can go to the polls and push the buttons, but our choices may be changed to reflect the “will of the people” based on exit polls or whatever, or cut in half…)

    anyway, poor lone star has the delusion that a vote for obambi has any meaning in texas. obamanuts don’t understand the concept of a red state that won’t go blue. and sure as hell won’t go blue with a fascist on the top of the ticket.

    i’ll be voting mccain, even though it’s only symbolic as he’ll carry texas bigtime even if i don’t. but i think even those of us in solid red or solid blue states need to do so to run up the popular vote count and send a loud message to what i now call the autocratic party.

  • alan rastellini

    ALL THE DISGUSTING THINGS THIS MAN SEEMS TO HAVE INVOLVED

    This sentence sums up your collective derangement. You are falling under a spell of god’s own party that will result in mccain being elected.

    and he is on the record: as appointing judges that will overturn roe v wade and crimmilize your medical decisions. he is on the record to leave your children, spouses and parents as clay pigeons in the middle of a civil war for a hundred years. his family derives their income from marketing alcohol to your children. and if obama selects The Honorable Janet Napolitano Governor of Arizona will you also turn your back on her?

    what exactly are the values this new party of yours stands for?

    i live in michigan. i was robbed by gov granholm of my vote along with 1.8 MILLION democratic michigan voters beyond the paultry 600K that voted in an event that the DNC had already declared would not count. there were no deleagtes awarded out of this event. there were no delagtes to ‘take’ from hillary as she had no delegates. the fair approach would have been to split the delegates.

  • Darryl

    Its a pink panther, I bet if you did some research you will find it is own and operated by gay people. The pink panthers was a more extreme operative group during the 80′s. Kinda like the black panthers.

  • A real Democrat

    Wow. What petulant behavior. The Democratic Party is better off without people like you in our (ever growing) big tent. Have fun with the misogynist, racist, war mongering lunatics in the McCain camp!

    Sincerely,

    A real Democrat.

  • alan rastellini

    please tell me how sonmething the evangelical base has fought for for 35 years is would cause it to bolt the gop?

    and they won’t stop there….the gop is already passibng laws to limit divorce, force religious indoctrination on prisners, allow discrimination in the military based upon religion and is passing hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars directly to religious organizations which define women as sub humans.

  • ulahane

    Real Democrats are oposed to the fringe-left takeover of our party. Obama never!

  • forbes

    > you are inserting an outcome that hasn’t occured yet.

    Well, of course, that’s what we all do when trying to predict the future (ie. what will a McCain presidency be like or an Obame one)

    I agree, we don’t know what McCain will bring ad we don’t know what Obama will bring. I also agree with most comments here that Hillary probably would have been a better choice than Obama. But choosing third Republican term over a Democratic one I believe (not ‘know’) will be more of the same. He is deeply dependent on much the same power structures that the Bush presidency was built upon so their is only so much he can do differently. And there is another point which I find pretty important – I have watch several hours of McCain videos during the last year or so in many of those clips – to be very frank – he is not quite coherent. This is especially clear if you compare recent videos with older ones. This I find a bit troubling for the world’s most powerful man. He is old, he has had a rough life, and ha hasn’t been entirely open about his medical record (I know he ‘opened’ it for a few hours – why was that?)

  • apikores

    I cant think of any better way for you guys to show those Obamatons than to condemn America’s poor women to die in back-alley abortions. Truly a fitting and appropriate tribute to America’s first viable female candidate.

  • s. hall

    Hillary or Bust — Hilalry wasn’t just shafted by this arrogant fool she was also shafted by the media and the DNC who said they would not allow her to make a decision past tomorrow they were going to shut her down. I can never call myself a Dem again.

  • s. hall

    His name is John McCaine and he has the experience to be President. I am going to vote for him. Buy a fire extinguisher.

  • forbes

    Don’t feel sorry, I’m fine with that ;)
    (I replied below before discovering the reply link)

    It’s your country and your decision to let its greatness go.

    I’m just, as an outsider, curious why Americans let it happen. And I’m even more puzzled why a lot of you in here threaten to persist in that endeavor. I was of the belief that you were against the Bush policies.

  • american sawbuck

    And Bill Clinton is the smartest and most savvy pol and person there is ..He is correct..we may have lost one lover of America but we still have the other…and it isn’t bambiboy.

  • s. hall

    Annin — they already put us under the Unity Bus. Now they are going to let us ride in the back if we are very very quiet. Screw em.

  • s. hall

    I marched for women’s rights now I care more about Medicare and Social Security. Time marches on.

  • jim

    People say they are fans of Clinton, yet will happily vote for her REAL opponent, to prove a point. Wow. That fails so hard it’s difficult to even put into words.

    Going to vote McCain?

    Start digging that fallout-shelter now, then, because you’ll be needing it.

    Goodbye health-plan & Roe v. Wade, hello new war with Iran.

    Pray Russia & China don’t honor their defence agreement with Rafsanjani, or the American Dream becomes a 24/7 nightmare. Yeah, maybe you’ll get lucky – just like the Kaiser did when he invaded Serbia in 1914.

    But, boy, you sure showed that nasty Obama!

  • forbes

    That’s a pretty stupid comment IMHO

    Anyone that feel let down by the Bush era policies will loose if McCain wins.

    So either you don’t feel Bush was bad – then why on earth would you support Hillary in the first place?

    Or you yourself are going to loose too if you vote McCain

    That’s what I find so hard to grasp about the many McHillary comments here.

  • american sawbuck

    and not an affirmative action harvard recruit either.

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  • http://theold18.typepad.com/ Big Tex

    If you think that Obama is a communist, then you’re not intellectually fit enough to be trusted with a vote. The more I hear from people like you, the more I’m convinced that the vast majority of you Obama haters have absolutely no clue about the policy stances of any of the candidates, much less Obama. You’re all just frightened out of your tiny little minds about the idea of a black man having a position of authority over this country. Don’t worry, if Obama gets elected, armies of black men aren’t going to invade your lily-white neighborhoods and start raping your wives and daughters.

  • http://www.steve.com Steve

    What a sore loser you are.

  • http://www.steve.com Steve

    And who in the blue hell are you!?

  • http://www.steve.com Steve

    http://www.humanevents.com

    There’s a great article by Ann Coulter about how Hillary got shafted.

  • harmon

    The pro-McCain/never-Obama commentary here is hilarious. It has two sources: Bushite Republicans who’ve found a perfect way of poisoning the Democratic well or petulant Femnocrats who’ve lost their cult figure and want the nation to feel their pain. Delicious dissent? Here—feed on this:

    http://www.236.com/blog/w/alec_sokolow/middie_mccain_more_moron_than_5544.php

    http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html

  • Johnny Morales

    The outcome most Americans really want – a “DIVIDED GOVERNMENT” with a weak Exec. and strong Legislature with a CLEAN conscious.

    Despite what Obamaniacs say, there is LITTLE/NO risk for ONCE in voting for a RepubliTHUG, because Dems. are going to have total control of the House and Senate.

    What Most Americans do NOT want is another Extremist led Government from Hard Left after 8yrs of Extreme Right wing control.

    And a Fed. Govt. led by Obama with the Hard Left in congtrol of the Democratic party will be exactly that.

    It is extremely ironic, that the high likelihood of an overwhelming Dem. victory in both houses, makes it possible for millions of former HRC voters to vote for RepubliTHUG, McCain in order to get the outcome most Americans really want – a “DIVIDED GOVERNMENT” with a weak Exec. and strong Legislature with a CLEAN conscious.

    This country has always prospered under Federal Govts. where each party controlled a branch of Government.

    This country historically pays a huge price for giving one party or the other total control of the Federal Govt.

    Americans may not know that “individually” but the nation’s “collective consciousness” is aware.


    As the campaign starts to progress the knowledge of the “collective consciousness” of the nation will seep into the consciousness of individual voters. Americans everywhere will start to see the election as a choice between a Federal Government totally controlled by the Hard Left with Obama as president , or a Divided Government with Democrats sufficiently empowered to balance and force sensible/fair compromise on the variety of issues Americans will face after the election.

    If that does fully come to pass, McCain will win. NOT because he is the best, but because EXTREMISM SUCKS, Balance is key to progress.

    THE ONLY MITIGATING FACTOR THAT COULD DEFINITELY STOP THIS IS FOR OBAMA TO CHOOSE HRC AS HIS VP.

    Her selection is all the millions who support her need to accept Obama is his own man and NOT a puppet of the Hard Left, and thus bring him most of those millions of former HRC supporters set to vote McCain or NOT vote at all over to Obama.

    Many will NOT heed HRC’s call to support Obama, unless she does so as the VP nominee.

    From any other position her call will be seen as a forced in order to survive politically in a Govt. controlled by ideological extreme Hard Leftists.

    In that case, voters will turn to McCain to stop the inevitable blood letting soon to follow a Hard Left victory in DC claiming the Exec and Legis. branches of Govt.

    McCain will NOT have any of the power advantages as President that Commandante Bush has.

    McCain will end up being a “weak” executive pitted against a “strong, empowered” Democratic solid, near super majority controlled by Liberals in Congress.

    McCain will NOT be able to appoint extremist, anti-roe v wade judges. The Dems. in the Senate have learned their lesson about the high high cost of “respecting” the Executive branch in selecting SC Judges.

    McCain will NOT be able to stay in Iraq. Dems. WILL HAVE the #s to force their will on the Exec. after Nov. 2008.

    McCain will NOT be able to pursue insane economic policies – Dems. will NOT pass his agenda without compromise to fit Dem. Goals.

    Finally,
    McCain will NOT be able to continue Commandante Bush’s effort to turn our Gov’t. into a kleptocracy via bogus “privatization” which gives Govt. money to profiteers to perform vital Govt. functions in place of the Govt. Dems WILL HAVE the oversight in place, and will call him out every time he tries to do that.

  • http://theold18.typepad.com/ Big Tex

    Since you’ve decided to yank things out of context from my blog that have nothing to do with presidential politics and twist them to suit your demented purposes, allow me to educate your clueless ass about a few things. First of all, I never called Hillary Clinton a bitch – you’re a fucking liar. That said, Hillary does deserve denigration, just like you and the rest of the Hillary Harpies, because you’re all a bunch of lying, hateful, racist assholes. As for my late mother, you don’t know jack shit about her or about the relationship I had with her. You’re just bringing her into this because, like your candidate, you can’t win an argument of any kind without wallowing in dogshit. You’re too much of a coward to address the substance of what I said, so instead you drag my dead mother, who isn’t here to speak for herself, into the conversation so you can say a bunch of inflammatory shit about her. What a lowlife.

    Wanna vote for McCain? Go ahead. Every one of you who does will be replaced by the vote of an independent or moderate Republican who loves their country more than they hate black people. Most of Hillary’s supporters are smart enough to know that they’re better off voting for Obama; the handful of people who don’t, like you, are nothing but a bunch of bitter, deranged sociopaths, and we’ll win without you.

  • ginaswo

    hi the nana1
    i just ordered my mccain lawn sign to stand up next to my hillary lawn sign

    and a democrats for mccain bumpersticker from this website above

    :0)

    hillary or mccain 08!!

  • HT

    Delurking to advise that I find this comment horrific
    “Now if we could only get rid of the mentally ill. Man I hate them as much as Obama I hate all kinds of mentally ill.”
    That is what Adolph Hitler thought and he took action.
    Whoever you are, you are not what you are portraying yourself to be. Are you trying to smear this site by posting outrgeous comments in order to bring disrepute upon the majority who happen to be honest people? Or is there another agenda? Bring down Mr Johnson and make him irrevalent in the upcoming election?
    Either way, what you typed is vomitous, and is a reflection of your nature and being. Have you any idea of the influence of words……oh, never mind. you don’t care

    Mr Johnson, and Susan
    This person is not someone you want posting on your site. Agent Provacateur should ring a bell.

  • ginaswo

    famuos black panther party line
    the only plsce for a womwn in this movement is horizontal

  • ginaswo

    famous black panther party line
    the only position for a woman in this movement is horizontal

  • Paddy

    You guys are absolute morons. Hope your kids get drafted into the war and your pasty white asses are unemployed.

  • ginaswo

    uhmm Im younger than Uhhhbama but his BOTS told all of us to get out of the way it was theirs now

    so take it and manage it and fund it and qork your axx off for it yourself..

    hope after 20 yrs of that some newbie doenst come kick you to the curb and tell you your day is over it would be karmic wouldnt it

  • cdo

    I love Obama supporters who can not believe there are people, (democrats even!) who won’t vote for their guy.
    You people crack me up! Every insult, every incredulous gasp at the mention of McCain leaves me in stitches!

  • ginaswo

    linda!!! I also think your rockin rendition of YOURE NO GOOD fits Uhhbama well and the DNC RBC cabal also
    :0>

  • http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/mccain.cfm SDM

    why would anybody who believes in what Sen. Clinton believes, who would vote for her policy proposals, and who trusts her judgement, who wants her as President, vote for or enable the election of McCain, someone who disagrees with what Clinton stands for, doesn’t have her support and has utterly opposite policy ideals?

    If you intended to vote for Clinton, and now you’re intending to vote for McCain, I don’t know that you have a good understanding of either.

    What is the hoped-for policy outcome of voting for Clinton that can possibly be satisfied by voting for McCain?

    I’m asking this in good faith because I genuinely don’t understand.

  • HT

    I am a 59 year old woman, and I can assure you that Antonia is a fraud. No one of my era would ever type, much less say ” As the saying goes, put on your big girl panties and get over it.”
    As what saying goes? Where doe3s this saying come from. Hmmm, smell computer game here.
    Antonia, you are a Fraud, and I’m disgusted that Obama supporters are misrepresenting themselves as one of my demographic. Do you go visit your grandparents, your parents, your aunts and uncles? My experience is that you do not, and I volunteer in retirement homes. What you have typed is despicable in it’s opportunism, and indicates the quality o the characters of supporters of Mr. obama
    back to lurking

  • kat in your hat

    I’ve always been a democrat, but I will not be FORCED to vote for Obama. No way.

    Hillary or McCain.
    Never Obama.

  • http://breckenblog.blogspot.com Bert Chadick

    If you can’t tolerate losing, then you are too tightly strung for politics. You may indeed be too tightly strung for the real world. It’s a bummer to lose and election, and I’ve lost plenty. Grow up and get with the program.

  • Benny

    This is awesome! I’ve always lectured my naive liberal friends on how they really need to open their eyes and vote Republican! McCain ’08!!! Show that half-breed crook Obama where he can shove it!

    We can keep the White House! We can take back the Congress! We can keep the conservative dream alive!

    Donate at johnmccain.com!

    Welcome to the New American Century and thanks for your support!!!

  • BrianS

    I can’t believe some of my fellow Democrats would be duped into this. The Republican Party is USING you. They care about NONE of the things you care about. They are going to set women back decades by appointed at least two radical right-wing judges.

    Under a President Obama, Hillary will be a leader of the Senate, proposing legislation which Obama will sign. She will lead on how these bills will be shaped. Under a President McCain, Hillary and the rest of the Democrats will have as much power as Congress has now under Bush; virtually none.

    I voted for Hillary in my primary, but we MUST get behind the Democratic nominee. Have you people forgotten what we are fighting for? Do you WANT endless war in Iraq, and a continuation of Bush’s unconstitutional policies (spying without a warrant, torture, etc.).? Do you want children to remain without health coverage?

    Think long and hard about what is best for America here.

  • so saddened

    we’re not making them, asshole. it’s their choice. if they support obambi, they made that choice. we’re not going to elect a fascist out of a trumped up claim that not doing so will undo roe. 1) it won’t; and 2) if you don’t want to risk it, don’t nominate obambi, the unelectable.

  • kimber

    see ya

  • cdo

    For the rest of you nutjobs, go ahead and vote for John McCain. Just don’t complain when you can’t get healthcare, pay for gas, lose a woman’s right to choose, get more Alitos on the Surpreme Court and your relatives die in Iraq ten years from now. At least you will feel better.

    I have a brother and a son in Iraq, both are on their 2nd tours. One is EOD, the other a medic. And I will NOT vote for Obama. I know you do not understand. I am tired of trying to explain it to you. Guess what? THEY won’t vote Obama either.

    The other issues you list are more reasons I won’t vote for Obama. Obama is not going to champion healthcare or anything but himself. If you disagree, please provide evidence of his having done something to benefit his fellow human beings. Voting “present” does not count.

  • Ron Russell

    I voted for Clinton, have no great love for Obama, but this is incredibly stupid! McSame is going to give us not only a hundred years in Iraq, but another war in Iran. Kiss goodbye a woman’s right to choose, continue massive budget deficits that will accrue so that McSame can continue giving Bush’s backers their tax cuts and Bush world goes on and you folks get played for the fools you are. I repeat, bitterness is one thing–but this is stupid. I used to respect Larry, but no more.

  • Atascocita

    Why don’t you just vote for Bob Barr with the disruntled Republicans? At least Barr is against the war.
    John Mc Cain has stopped rebelling against his party so that he could receive his party’s nomination, and now surrounds himself with the same group that has surrounded Bush.

  • drkate

    I’m not buying that and I’m not scared. We will have a democratic house and senate.

  • cdo

    And FYI, I don’t care about “losing”. Because for me this is not a game.
    I am not petulant.
    I am not a racist.
    I am not a Femnocrat (god that is insulting).
    I am a thinking, reasoning human being who does not believe Obama is fit to lead the most powerful country on the planet.
    Nothing I hear from his supporters has lead me to think otherwise, not by a long damn shot.
    Nothing I have heard from Obama has swayed me either.

    I am going to vote for a president. I take that seriously. If you have a serious case to make for your candidate I will read it. If not, then know you are not helping him by posting here.

  • drkate

    and Obama and the dems didn’t use us as well?

    Wake the fuck up!

    You guys have pissed off millions of people and this is the result! You broke it, you own it.

    Calling us stupid is nothing new–you have done it throughout this campaign.

  • David G

    Please forgive me!

    Please forgive me
    If I act a little strange
    For I know not what I do.
    Feels like lightning running through my veins
    Everytime I look at you
    Everytime I look at you
    Help me out here
    All my words are falling short
    And there’s so much I want to say
    Want to tell you just how good it feels
    When you look at me that way
    When you look at me that way
    Throw a stone and watch the ripples flow
    Moving out across the bay
    Like a stone I fall into your eyes
    Deep into some mystery
    Deep into that mystery
    I got half a mind to scream out loud
    I got half a mind to die
    So I won’t ever have to lose you girl
    Won’t ever have to say goodbye
    I won’t ever have to lie
    Won’t ever have to say goodbye
    Yeah na na na na
    Yeah na na na na
    Please forgive me
    If I act alittle strange
    For I know not what I do
    It’s like my head is filled with lightning girl
    Everytime I look at you
    Everytime I look at you
    Everytime I look at you
    Everytime I look at you

  • HT

    “half breed”? I doubt that Senator McCain would approve of your racist sentiments. Perhaps you might want to take your offer and shove it up….wait a minute, are you another Obama brat…ah I see now, tar McCain with what his supposed followers say and get more votes for Mr Obama. I’m slow, but like the tortoise, I get there in the end.

  • PSE

    What is the matter with you knuckleheads? Because your candidate did not become the Presidential nominee you would vote for a right wing, war-mongering moron? Yea, that’ll fix those no-good Obama supporters. Your bitterness is petty, self-serving and could ultimately be very harmful to this country.

  • cdo

    What is the matter with you knuckleheads? Because your candidate did not become the Presidential nominee you would vote for a right wing, war-mongering moron? Yea, that’ll fix those no-good Obama supporters. Your bitterness is petty, self-serving and could ultimately be very harmful to this country.

    I am not visiting pro-Obama sites and writing insults to his supporters. You are the one who is bitter and petulant and petty…you give evidence to that with each post you write here.

    I asked earlier for you to provide evidence of your candidate having done something to benefit his fellow human beings. You respond by insulting the readers here and disparaging a man who has spent a lifetime in service to his country.

    You are damaging your candidate every time you post.

  • ray

    Character? Who prevaricated the most? Who was dodging sniper bullets? Who put themselves and McCain first at the expense of the party? Who makes suggestions for psychotic people out there to ruminate over regarding assasinations? Which GOP candidate voted over 95 percent of the time with Bush and is still called a maverick.

    The Supreme Court tilting right will affect all individuals with a loss of individual rights and the increase in corporate rights. It has begun allready.

    Who managed to rack up huge campaign debts?
    Who is not in debt?

    Everyone should look at the issues and the effects of four more years of GOP right wing policies on this country. Think of your kids. In every campaign there is only one winner. I was an Edwards guy. Am I going to chop my nose to spite my face?
    You people need to grow up. Obama finally speaks to people about issues in depth and as an adult, without childish name calling, unlike the politics practiced by others.
    I was undecided between Hillary and Obama at first, but the lies, and scorched earth policy employed by her left me knowing that she would say anything to win and protect her image, just like this White House has done since 2000.
    A man’s vision and ideals count for much more than experience.
    In 2000 the White House ushered in Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, and tons of others from the Reagan, Nixon, and Bush White House. All that “experience” has really served us well, hasn’t it?

    I hear outright hostility, racism, and ignorance in many comments on this thread. I hope we aren’t so small minded that we can’t think outside our own prejudices for the benefit of our kid’s futures, and our own.

    Are you better off than eight years ago?
    How are your civil liberties doing? How many more need to die in Iraq to support corporate greed? Cheney will love your McCain vote.
    How is your ability to sue for wrongful death or injury doing? The Supreme court is ruling that big pharma can kill you with their drugs and you can’t do a thing about it, even if they knew their product was dangerous, so long as the FDA had allready given approval. That is the kind of court McCain wants to add to. Just one example. Do some research.

    For the conspiratorial, I’m sure Hillary supporters would love the Gop to win so Hillary can run again in 2012. If Obama wins that option is out.

    Think about the wide ranging nature of what your vote implies. Vote with your head not your gut, nor your hate.

  • MoranClitnonSupporter

    I believe since our “side” lost we should just say “fuck it” to our personal values and ideals and jump tracks to the complete opposite. Pro choice? I don’t like having the ability to keep my body free any longer so McCain has my vote!. Pointless wars? I use to be against them but now? BRING THEM ON!! I don’t actually have any real beliefs because my vote swings on my perceived emotions at the time anyway. I am bitter and thus I will shoot myself in the vote come November! Hurray for PUMA!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    lol*…..no kidding. Can you believe these turkey butts?

    It’s just not any fun anymore at their Hillary-Hating sites. Nobody to insult.

  • Ed

    HA!!! This had me LMAO after reading it. Thanks for a hilarious retort to a really weird website and idea in general. (where DO you get a haircut like that?)

    I’m so bitter that I’ll vote for the guy who is an anathema to what I originally (supposedly) believed in. Yeah, that’s rational.

    I can understand being upset, frustrated, and down about one’s candidate not winning, but this is a just sad. People calling Obama a fascist?! LOL!!! WTF is that all about?

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Nobody has insulted women more than the Democratic Party this year.

  • codne

    You respond by insulting the readers here and disparaging a man who has spent a lifetime in service to his country.

    How is your candidate any better? She didn’t serve either.

  • ulahane

    You misspelled “moron” in your name. Idiot!

  • LVII

    Look, state your piece with resorting to insults. I feel people like you where never democrats in the first.

    I mean, you mu must have lost the plot to stretch that tenous link from Ayers to Obama, I give give up now. For every faux democrat like you who decides to dog out their own candidate, we will sign ten more who realise it’s time to stand up and be counted.

    You’d fit right in on Fox news or Limbaugh’s show.

    Have fun voting for Mcain, after all it’s a democracy, right.

  • ulahaneisdumb

    I believe that was the point.

  • Linda R

    I just finished another one…. I tried to imagine how a certain someone feels right now.

    I’ve been alone too long
    Sitting by myself
    I’m getting to old
    To help myself

    But I won’t be hangin round your door
    Begging
    No I won’t be hangin round
    To feel the pain
    And if you take my life in hand
    And finally make me understand
    It won’t do no good
    You’ll just hurt my plan

    And I won’t be hangin round your door
    Begging
    No I won’t be hangin rond
    To feel the pain

    Sometimes I think I can’t go on
    And every day I live
    Well it seems like my life’s unreal
    Sometimes I think I won’t live too long
    But I hope I’m wrong
    That’s the way I feel

    And I won’t be hangin round your door
    Begging
    No I won’t be hangin round
    To steal a kiss
    I won’t be hanging round your door
    Begging
    No i won’t be hangin round
    To feel the pain
    No I won’t be hangin round your door
    Begging
    Oh I won’t be hangin round
    To feel the pain

  • ulahane

    I doubt it.

  • LVII

    IT was not Obama or the DNC that shafted Hillary, she did it to herself.

    Where was her plan after ‘Super Tuesday’?

    How did she allow her so called advisers to misguide her so?
    How did they manage to blow their warchest of dollars so foolishly?
    How did she manage to misjudged the zeitgiest of the nation?

    She is formidable who got her tactics wrong, nobody ‘stole’ this from her. She gambled and she lost. I dig her and if she were to run again, she knows her has a massive audience ready.

  • LVII

    Thank you! These people are posting up really offensive bile bordeling/outright racist things about B.H.O but

    Go vote for Ron Paul or the other Liberterian guy that’s running if it’ll make you feel better.

    Folks whinning about some fantasy election in Michigan and Florida, get over it people. Please.

  • claribel borden

    Hey LV?

    Your trolls are really stupid.

    So stupid, not even worth reading, since they follow a basic template put together by people who have no unique or individual talent.

    Bad writers, bad triggers, the whole thing useless.

    Tell your bosses they need to reassess, and hire new talent.

    The contestants on American Idol “sing,” (barely) but they’re not musicians.

    Do you understand?

    It’s like a any ordinary community, you have Mozarts, and Salieris, the Salieris desperately want to think they’re Mozart, not understanding why they aren’t, and someone else knowing the difference, and making a profit.

    You are a tagger, and, well, like most taggers, and eyesores, easily ignored.

    And despite the carpet, the real talent moves on, just like it always has, because it simply has nothing in common with the lessers. Either that, or it learns to manipulate the far less intelligent Salieris.

    Do you understand?

    You never will.

  • DJ

    Rev Wright said after knowing Obama for 20 years that Obama will tell you what you want to hear to get elected. I recently read on a Chicago web site what all he did to help the people there. Search the internet and you will find that the people of Chicago say he did NOTHING. He talked the talk, walked the walk, but after he got elected , NOTHING. Also read about how he ran his campaign in Illinois and how he voted PRESENT. Read his record in the Senate. He is lying about bringing people together. A MAN like this, black or white, is not fit to lead our country. It is not about the parties now. People who say they will vote for McCain aren’t anti-Democrat they are PRO-America and are seeing things for what they really are. The DNC basically said you are half a person so it is time to become WHOLE again. If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination vote for McCain. At least we will be able to sleep at night.

  • LVII

    I don’t know when you started watching or following politics Mary, if you followed the ’04 elections or the primaries, you would know that that John Mcain is far difference to the one we have now.

    He was moderate on social issues, supported Roe v. Wade and was a champion of fiscal responsibility. This new John Mcain has done a total 380 and morphed into ‘Mcbush’

    It’s a shame really.

  • forbes

    I see. That’s a reasonable argument, about the only one I’ve seen here. I think who’s an outsider may be debatable. But I guess the real issues are: can the next president bring the US economy back on its feet, can he end the war and can he fix the health care system.
    And so who will be better at that McCain or Obama? Personally, as an outsider, I’d prefer someone who continues the Bush policy.

  • forbes

    !!??

  • Nadabama

    Did somerhing strike a nerve, Big(probably very little)Tex?

    You are reaping what you have sown!

    Enjoy it you flaming misogynyst.

    LOL

  • forbes

    I’m from Europe

  • A Real Democrat

    As a real Democrat I am simply astounded by the comments here. Sen. Clinton lost, plain and simple. Her campaign miscalculated her opponent badly. Live and learn. The racism here is as sad as it frightening. I used to believe the Democratic Party was the party of equality and fairness. Look, this race was over before the decisions about Michigan and Florida. Fair analysis and clear thinking will tell you that if you are rational. So you are going to v? Fine. Goodbye. They Party does not need people like you. You really bigoted and disgusting people. You would vote for the man who left the wife who fought for his freedom while he was in a prison camp for a younger, richer wife? A man who would call his wife a c*@!? Really? You are incredibly ignorant people. This is not about you-it never was. You are not Hillary Clinton, and you never will be. This was never personal. Get over yourself. If you think Obama needs you, you are badly mistaken. Get on board or get the hell out of the way. Idiots! Oh yeah, and I a apparently far more woman than the likes of some of you.

    Sincerely,
    A Real Democrat
    Get Out Of My Party~
    AND STAY OUT!!!

  • so saddened

    go away, fear troll. we all know better. or are you really as ignorant as you sound?

    re roe – if you’re truly concerned, support hillary. if you support obambi the unelectable, it’s on you.

    btw, there’s a tried and true method to avoid any problem with an unwanted pregnancy, in case you really are worried, and in case you actually have some hope of ever getting laid. it worked great back in the day, 100% effective, and i’m sure even an obamabot can get the hang of it if she practices hard enough.

    here it is – maintain clothing affixed to body. take left leg, put it next to right leg, do not separate in presence of penis. guaranteed to prevent pregnancy.

    as the last thing this country needs is more obamabots, i strongly recommend this technique.

  • BrianS

    *I* broke it??? What are you talking about??? I voted for HILLARY!!!

    It really saddens me that my fellow Hillary supporters would vote against EVERYTHING Hillary stands for. That’s no way to honor everything Hillary has worked for her entire career.

    Voting McCain will mean Hillary has NO power in the Senate. Voting Obama mean Hillary will be WRITING all the legislation. She will be shaping our whole country.

    How could you possibly vote Republican, after all our country has gone through under Bush, and after how much the Republicans SMEARED Hillary as a “murderer”? Did you forget the entire 1990′s??? I can only imagine the smears they would have used against her in the general election. And you want to support those people??? You want to support a political party that wants women back in the kitchen, with no rights over their own bodies???

  • Nadabama

    Because we vote for the known over the unknown.

    McCain is human and has flaws, so do we.

    The only perfect human was crucified.

    Obama is not his re-incarnation, yet he, you, and the rest of the Obamidiots pretend he is.

    We choose real over ephemeral!

  • frenzy

    How pathetic – she lost the election as in “SHE GOT FEWER VOTES”. Hey!! That’s democracy.

    Now you are saying that you support the Bush policies as a retaliation. If you really liked Bush what are you doing here?

  • BrianS

    These people cannot be Democrats. They have to be Republican trolls trying to exploit the Hillary vs. Obama nomination battle. They think they can TRICK Democrats into voting AGAINST their interests.

    I just can’t believe Democrats would abandon all their beliefs and vote for more Bush madness. I can’t believe they would forget the entire 1990′s, and what the Republicans did to the Clintons. Voting Republican is not showing loyalty to the Clintons; it is pissing on EVERYTHING the Clintons have fought for.

  • dick bush

    Democrats! Are we not any better than the GOP? Do we really want another 8 years of Dush policies? There can only be 1 winner. Our country is in the tank right now. This is not about Hillary, Obama or you! It is about our country! Our children! If you can get with that concept you need to change your party affiliation. The war mongering racist party is waiting on you to join them..Relax, take a deep breath and for god’s sake… think rational.

  • LVII

    Thank you.

    I now realise that a lot of the people here are racists who are angry at the possiblity that a man who looks like B.H.O is the nominee.

    Alot of you all have screws loose.

    I am not coming here again, the owner of the site wanted a silly little coterie of low lives to help propagate his hatred for the party and the nominee.

    Have fun psychos!

  • apikores

    yeah, if only those dumb black sluts would keep their legs shut they wouldn’t need abortions. you’re really showing your feminist colors here. news flash: the women who are going to die if mccain is elected are not all obama supporters, although a lot of them will probably be black so i understand if you want more of them dead. however, some of them might be hillary supporters and thus worthy of life!
    support for hillary at this point is too little too late: in case you didn’t hear she’s dropping out of the race and thus will not be in a position to nominate any supreme court justices. hate to break it to you, but at this point if you want a candidate who’s going to defend reproductive rights you have one choice and his name is obama. while you are obviously either too old or too bitter to care about whether or not women are forced to have babies, i assure you that a lot of women in america still do and will find this attitude more and more repugnant as our november choice becomes clearer and clearer.

  • BrianS

    Oh, now I see why there is all this pro-McCain BS on this website. The guy who writes this blog is a registered REPUBLICAN who voted BUSH in 2000.

    Congratulations anti-Democratic posters. You’ve allowed yourselves to be duped by a Republican Bush supporter. Somewhere, Karl Rove is laughing at how easy some people are to dupe.

  • dick bush

    what has your brother and son accomplished in Iraq? Seriously? Bush doesn’t care about them or you! You have every right to vote for McCain but you will get more of the same! Obama had opportunities right out of school to make big money but choose to help others instead. You should take the time to listen to what he has to say. Besides, a dog would do a better job than Bush or anybody wanting to perpetuate his policies….

  • so saddened

    typical obamabot pulls out the race card.

    my advice applies to ANYONE.

    re roe, read prior posts.

  • JayEsbe

    I started to smell the stench of your global neoliberalism a couple of years ago. This pretty much confirms that you completely suck. Glad you’re out of the CIA, even if an idiot -Bushit- is responsible for it. I hope Obama will live up to your every fear actually, by doing what Kennedy was planning to do: Disband the whole wretched thing.

  • dick bush

    how have women been insulted? When did Obama insult women? A fair defeat is not insulting or disrespectful. Maybe you just think Hillary was entitled to the nomination. If that is what you meant, just say that. Obama took the high road even as the trash cans were being thrown at him. Hillary is about Hillary. Hillary is not about country. I use to love the Clintons and would argue in their defense when ever Bill and Monica were ever brought up. I felt the issue was personal. I thought he governed well even though he cheated on his wife… but now, I have less respect for both of them. Maybe the republicans were right. I still care about them and I actually really do like them… but the bottom line is that it is not about Hillary…IT IS ABOUT COUNTRY I care most about. Vote for McCain if you most, I truely beleive that Obama will win anyway. I think there are far more intelligent Americans out here than there are those who get mad over losing and put their feelings over country. I hope I’ve not been disrespectful to you.

  • Nadabama

    Your entire post is purely inane, insipid, diatribe, Forbes. Or in more earthy terms BS!

    A back-handed, insincere lament for us poor Americans. Stuff it!

    Besides your Indonesian comment has a US Ip and time-zone, how does that work?

    LOL

  • dick bush

    Amen !

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    We’re never going to be loved by Europe. LOL* Come on, who would you guys hate then?

    That could be self-damaging.

  • Nadabama

    Obamidiots are all over the blogs carping, puling, begging, attacking! Wow!

    I thought they were winners, even ol’ dailykiss-up folks are not celebrating.

    I love the smell of their fear!

    They know they have yet to “win” a damn thing!

  • MichaelNZ

    Hm, I’m an American living abroad and I’m oddly fascinated with the cut off your nose to spite your face attitude displayed here.

    Roe v. Wade, Gay Marriage and other liberal causes are larger than just candidates and that’s why we try to vote on issues.

    To say that you don’t care if young women have the rights you fought for is incredibly short sighted. We’re progressives and how are we supposed to make any progress if we’re constantly refighting old battles? Universal health care is what we should be fighting for next not trying to regain ground that we managed 30 years ago.

    Admittedly I’ve got a little distance from all of this from living abroad so I’m not as emotionally connected to the primary process but when people from No Quarter talk about how rude Obama supporters were by calling them Obamabots or some other not so clever nickname it makes me cringe.

    I’d ask anyone here that speaks with so much vitriol about Obama that they’d not vote for him, or forehead slappingly, McCain, spend a week away from the computer and the media surrounding all of this and gain a little perspective. Obama is a good candidate with decent experience and an okay human being. Is he perfect? Absolutely not. Will he make a good president? Yes, most likely.

  • MichaelNZ

    Wow. To think that so many people complain about sexism against Hillary.

  • forbes

    > Besides your Indonesian comment has a US Ip and time-zone, how does that work?

    No idea – probably got to do with how noquarterusa deals with posts.

    as for ‘you poor Americans’: You are in for a major downturn mostly because of the determined effort of an ideology driven incompetent government.

    Now after Hillary lost the primaries everybody here suddenly wows to support those policies for the next four years. How did that happen?

    As for the ‘Bush is good for the rest of the world’:

    In South America democracy is spreading which I find very good. I’m sure a more focused president would never have let that happen. Bush tried astonishingly unsuccessful to stage a coup against Chavez (regardless of the direction his rule has taken he was and is democratically elected).

    US is now trying to roll back that development by instigating unrest between Columbia and her neighbors and by supporting a violent opposition in Bolivia.

    I guess a Democratic president will better at getting international support in undermining those democracies than a Republican would be.

    If you don’t know what I mean I’ll remind you that Bush unsuccessfully tried to convince Spain not to sell military equipment to Venezuela. A Democratic president would probably have succeeded.

    That’s why I say a Democratic president would in all likelihood be good for most American while a Republican president would be good for ‘foreigners’ both the good and the bad.

  • Nebraskan

    Right now Rush Limbaugh and his ilk are laughing and high-fiving each other because this is EXACTLY what they want. Good going hrc fanatics…if McCain is elected, the war continues and McCain appointed judges run amok on the constitution, I hope you will feel better.

  • DebM

    I’m a 51 year old woman who has never registered to vote but this election sure opened my eyes and I will be registering Independent and voting for McCain in November…his speech was wonderful and if Hillary is out then McCain is surely the next best choice.

  • forbes

    Don’t kid yourself – you were loved by the Europeans – but you blew it twice in the last 50 years.

    First time was the Vietnam War – after that you slowly regained popularity. Second time: Iraq. you are still loosing because of that.

    The most significant difference from then till now is that the economic burden of the Vietnam War could be passed on to your creditors through inflationary policies – the dollar was the effective reserve currency of the world – they had no choice but to pick up the tap. Not so today – as you can see international trade continues to thrive even as the US is hurting. Trade is moving away from dollars, and in time, away from the US.

    As I predict above, the stronger states will tend to loosen their ties with the union – and I suggest a very ironic trend: the liberal leaning states will be more active in leaving the union while the read states will end up supporting the federal government over states’ independence.

  • Snowball

    Only Republicans refer to the Democratic party as the Democrat party. It’s always an easy way to spot a right wing troll.

  • ulahane

    Or people who watch and read news from a wide variety of sources. It is also more common in the mid-west. Nice try though.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    lol*…..so true, S.Hall.

  • BD

    Come to the dark side, Libs. Your party is finished. Heh, Heh.

  • libby

    OMG Another Obama troll in here.

    And McCain is not a right winger. Jeesh these Obamatons are stupid.

  • Snowball

    While I’m certain that this is a fake site set up by Rush Limbaugh’s keyboard warriors, I thought this quote by John McCain (not just a supporter) might help clear the confusion for any Clinton supporter who thinks they’d prefer McCain over Obama.

    “Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
    Because her father is Janet Reno.
    -John McCain”

    Of course his rabid right wing supporters thought it was hilarious.

    You think Obama supporters were hard on you guys? That’s just a sign that the Clinton campaign was never prepared to win a general election. Clinton would have made a fine President, but as her loss to Obama demonstrates, a poor campaigner.

  • SergeiRostov

    As proven by The Daily Howler, McCain only wants to stay in Iraq “for 100 years” if no soldiers are being wounded or killed, citing as analogy our presence in South Kroea. So your argument is phony right there.

    And as for the economy, you might call McCain a Bush clone on that, but at least Bush manage to create a few million jobs, while Obama not only left his constituents in the poverty in which he found them, but actually defended his district’s slumlords against criminal prosecution so that they could make that poverty WORSE.

  • apishapa

    I have opposed this war from the beginning. You sound like the kind of idiot who believes Obama intends to leave Iraq. Dream ON! His buddies Rezko, Khaladi and Auchi have been cleaning up stealing millions of taxpayer dollars on this war. He is not going to do a damned thing. He has had his advisors state that he does not mean that whole 16 months thing.

    By the way, my son’s best friend lost his eye, one arm and the use of one leg in the war. Another close friend died. A third friend has been shot twice. You see poor people know what this is really all about.

    I believe some with a little backbone stands a better chance of keeping those who are there safe. No one in either party has demostrated any inclination of ending this war. Talk is cheap. I want someone who will stand up for those who are there. That is not someone who votes present every time a controversial issue comes along.

    So, shame on you. You are dispicable.

  • anonimousvex

    30 year democrat here. I think half of these posts are coming straight out of Karl Roves missing email machine. I have never seen so much sockpuppet love. Love the Pink Panther symbol. Good idea. You all can vote for your inspector clue-lesss. Just be honest with yourselves, no real democrat would ever vote for Mcsame. So take your freeky flag and turn tail and run to the rupubs. They will be sure to increase that social security check when the fuel bills triple after the bombs fail on Iran. Shheesh.

  • anonimousvex

    I too have a son in the military. Good choice on McCain mutiny. He will help your son by sending him to Iran, cutting his benefits, outsourcing his water purification, insent him to reenlist by keeping him from getting proper educational benefits, hollow out his VA care. Way to vote your and his interests.

  • anonimousvex

    Fear and loathing isn’t either.

  • anonimousvex

    That you Karl?

  • anonimousvex

    Nice double post astro turf bot…

  • anonimousvex

    1) Abscam

    2) First wife under the bus, with cancer

    3) Senile

    4) Hugs for Bush

    5) Lost spine when bush wrote signing statement on anti torture bill

    6)Karl Rove is a closer personal friend and advisor after race carding him in South Carolina

  • Cristyn Hussein

    I’m hoping all of you Hillary freaks are ready to have your children sent to Iran under McCain… not to mention NO universal health care, NO end in Iraq, the possible repeal of Roe v. Wade, and the continuation of Bush’s policies. For a bunch of feminists, you really are being “emotional and irrational.” I’m pretty sure this isn’t what democracy (or feminism) is about.

    And I’m FULLY aware that many of you are Limbaugh minions.

  • Cristyn Hussein

    Oh, and Larry, I ALSO know this guy who knows this republican who knows this reporter who has a cousin with a boyfriend who heard something about a Michelle Obama “whitey” tape at the supermarket. Everyone get ready! This is BIG NEWS!

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • Uppity

    I have opposed this war from the beginning. You sound like the kind of idiot who believes Obama intends to leave Iraq. Dream ON! His buddies Rezko, Khaladi and Auchi have been cleaning up stealing millions of taxpayer dollars on this war. He is not going to do a damned thing. He has had his advisors state that he does not mean that whole 16 months thing.

    Ding Ding Ding!!! We have a winner! You are SO right. In fact, not only does he have no intention of ending that war, but he plans on aiming a few guns at Israel.

  • Uppity

    It will only hurt till November 5!

  • Uppity

    I don’t mind if you vote for McCain…

    Hey thanks for your permission. That’s very Marxist of you.

  • Uppity

    Hey vex, nice list. Kind of makes you comprehend exactly how much we object to Barky Obama doesn’t it?

  • Uppity

    WooHoo, Go Obama!!

    No more cars and food!

    Yippee!!!!!

    Hahahahaha.

    Turn that 401k over too!

  • Uppity

    gam you are the most despicable of trolls. Truly.

  • Uppity

    Artist, no offense but I don’t want her running with him. She would carry him. Let him sink his own skinny ass. She can run in 2012 after Barky goes into the McGovern-Dukakis political trash bin.

  • Uppity

    Somebody remove this satirical moron from this board.

  • Uppity

    Kiss it gam, and find out, . An asshle like yourself should recognize it and relish it.

  • Uppity

    You really do have an anal retentive problem don’t you?

  • Uppity

    I already know my political values. I’m not a marxist and I don’t vote for marxists. But thanks for caring.

  • Uppity

    It’s a blog ping, not an actualy poster.

  • Uppity

    I held my nose and voted for Kerry. I didn’t like him. But I played the good Democrat. But I have reached my limit with Obama. At least Kerry didn’t hang out with people who tried to blow up America. And I’m not just talking domestic terrorism either.

  • Nadabama

    John McCain has a son serving in Iraq, the only candidate that does!

    Obama has daughters sitting in Wright/Moss TUCC, listening to garbage related to race-war!, and how bad “the white folks are”.

    Which of these two candidates has a more honorable and moral foundation regarding their children?

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    Wow 61 years old woman with daughters supporting Obama. You should receive massive press coverage, because you are extremely rare. That is, if you exist. This is, after all, the internet.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    Wow… Morphing from the KKK to the PPP!

    All hail the Purple Pussy Party!

    Cleanup Aisle six! Child pretending to be an adult who wouldn’t dare say the same thing in person. Possibly little pisspot suckling off his parents’ 401k to pretend he’s “upscale’. Should be reminded to take out the garbage because his parents are sick of supporting him. Mother is a pussy of the purple variety. Has trouble resolving his relationship with her and can’t understand why girls don’t like him. When interviewed, mother secretly says she wished she had had oral sex instead of being punished with the boy. Believes penis extender emails he receives. Requires sheet change several times a week.

  • tinat

    Oh really, congress won’t approve?
    Do you know how many conservative anti abortion democrats are in the Senate? Quite a few and more on the way in 2008

    What you should really worry about though is McCains stance on equal pay for women, he doesn’t believe in it, he voted against it.
    So go tell your daughters you voted for a man who thinks they are worth less then a man because you didn’t get your way..yeah, that’ll teach the DNC

  • tinat

    yeah, get that 7 year old daughter enlistes NOW

    insanity, serious insanity

  • tinat

    His speech was wonderful???
    OK now I know Rove and Rush have sent their minions here, LOL

  • dick bush

    no vote for McBush… you obviously don’t mind that this country is being driven in the ground by republicans. Go jump on the McBush Wagon… you will regret it… bye

  • ulahane

    I’m glad that you are acknowledging Obama’s certain loss.

  • dick bush

    the one that didn’t vote to have our soldiers killed for nothing..The flip flop express has left the station..go jump on it

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