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Senator, You’re No Jack Kennedy

One of the more persistent (and pernicious) memes of this campaign so far is Obama as JFK. This is an unfortunate habit of presidential contenders – to try and siphon off some JFK gloss and call it their legacy.

Yawn. I won’t go into why this happens, that’s too obvious to bother with. And I won’t go into who has or has not done it. They’ve all done it. Senator Kerry, with his JFK and swiftboat experience (before THAT was turned against him), President Clinton with his looks and picture showing him shaking JFK’s hand, and now, Obama. Even Republicans get into the fealty line with Dan Quayle famously trying and getting smacked down by Lloyd Bentsen on national tv for his presumption.
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Sigh. SusanUnPc wonderfully addressed this issue a few months back, and it’s definitely worth revisiting.

In January, The Washington Monthly published an article on this by Ted Widmer and here are a couple bits from an overall very interesting perspective.

John F. Kennedy is not running for anything in 2008, but you’d never know it. . . . Back in the U.S., no candidate has captured the reflected glory of JFK more than Barack Obama, thanks to his youth, eloquence, and message of change. The Kennedy-Obama parallel has been played up by the press, and Obama’s campaign has not discouraged those comparisons—indeed, it has brought in Ted Sorensen, JFK’s talented speechwriter, to make speeches and render the judgment of history.

The Obama campaign talks up his travels as justification for the candidate’s more “international” background and understanding – just like JFK. Widmer disputes that, explaining the difference between Kennedy’s travels and Obama’s. Specifically, he says Kennedy:

. . .made American officials uneasy with his relentless desire to see parts of Europe and the world that few Americans ever encountered. In 1939 alone, he took in the Soviet Union, Romania, Turkey, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Greece, France, Germany, Italy and Czechoslovakia. As the war was ending, he attended the San Francisco conference that created the United Nations, filing seventeen dispatches for the Chicago Herald American.

This, in addition to Kennedy’s time in the South Pacific during WWII, led to a:

. . . lively interest in world affairs as a young Congressman. In 1951 he went on two extraordinary journeys, the first a five-week trip to Europe, from England to Yugoslavia, to consider the military situation on the continent. Then, a few months later, a seven-week, 25,000-mile trek that included Israel, Iran, Pakistan, India, Singapore, Thailand, French Indochina, Korea and Japan. It was this trip, in particular, that awakened a sense in him that the old colonial empires were doomed, and that the French effort to keep Vietnam was especially futile.

Military commanders say nothing substitutes for “boots on the ground.” That partially means to understand a place or a situation, you really need to see it, go there, talk with people and not rely on other people’s perceptions or other type of filters no matter how comprehensive.

Recently, the Obama campaign poo-poohed the notion of the senator visiting Iraq. Although something of a stunt by the McCain campaign, the invitation to travel to Iraq with Senator McCain pointed up the fact that Obama has not visited there since January 2006. Given the great involvement by our troops and the expenditure of treasure in the Iraq war, it would not be a bad idea for a presidential candidate to form some personal impressions.

Unfortunately, the Obama campaign handled this idea with its usual intelligence and class by giving a political version of the Pee Wee Herman defense: “I know you are, but what am I?”

“On the day after the former White House press secretary conceded that the Bush administration used deception and propaganda to take us to war, it seems odd that Senator McCain, who bought the flawed rationale for war so readily, would be lecturing others on their depth of understanding about Iraq.  Senator Obama challenged the President’s rationale for the war from the start, warning that it would divert resources from Afghanistan and the pursuit of Al Qaeda and mire us in an endless civil war.  Senator McCain stubbornly insists on pursuing the failed Bush policy that continues to cost so much, while Senator Obama believes it’s time to begin a deliberate, careful strategy to remove our troops and compel the Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future,” – Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

Clearly the Obama campaign thought this statement a stinging rebuke to McCain’s invitation. I just think it shows a familiar stubbornness (I’m the Decider) and inability to deal with potential challenges to his firmly held, previously unassailable position on an issue. Hey, it’s not at all inconceivable Obama would return from such a trip more convinced his position is right. But he’d have a lot more information.

Bummer he’s not interested.

But why does this all come to mind today? Well, a perceptive blogger noted something interesting.

From the “hey, I like this lapel pin” Chicago Olympics meeting the other day, I saw again a pose that Sen. Obama (D-IL) likes to strike a lot. A lot.

Obama

It has been bug’n me for awhile in a “I have seen it before…” way. Well, finally my brain worked its way through all the lead paint chips I ate as a child.

There it is, right below.

Official Presidential Portrait of John F. Kennedy

Aaron Shickler’s iconic JFK portrait.

Accident? Think not.

Poseur.

Poseur?
Indeed.

  • Mickey

    Why I will not allow Obama to become president.

    This land is your land, this land is my land

    From California to the New York Island

    From the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream waters

    This land was made for you and me.

    As I went walking that ribbon of highway

    I saw above me that endless skyway

    I saw below me that golden valley

    This land was made for you and me.

    I roamed and I rambled and I followed my footsteps

    To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts

    While All around me a voice was sounding

    Saying this land was made for you and me.

    The sun came shining, and I was strolling

    And the wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling

    As the fog was lifting, A voice was chanting,

    This land was made for you and me.

    This land is your land, this land is my land

    From California to the New York Island

    From the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream waters

    This land was made for you and me.

    I am too proud of my heritage to allow a shameless Democratic party take it away.

    • http://shinemyshoesbarryboy.org David Axisrutt

      I don’t think Barry know no Woodie Guthrie. :/

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Personally, I thought the way Obama compared himself to everyone, including JFK, silly and egotistical.

    Great shot of Quayle doing the same. Maybe it’s a sign of a buffoon to do so.

  • HARP

    JFK brought me into the Democratic party and now BO is making me leave. Kind of Ironic.

    • Karen

      Same for me…..

      • HARP

        Kind of giving our age away Huh !

  • Joe

    It’s just another way of BHO being a copycat and plagiarizing.

  • HARP

    You have to read this one.

    Commentary by a Hillary Supporter
    by hillbillie fan
    Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 01:55:11 PM PDT

    To all of you here at Daily KOS who have been so utterly rude and disgusting towards Hillary Clinton and all of us supporters throughout this long campaign…

    THIS ONE’S FOR YOU

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/7/164710/0496/48/531837

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Just based on the comments alone, I’ll never vote for Obama. Yikes, those people are way creepy.

    • cc

      Thank you Harp…Hillbillie Fan wrote an awesome post. wish I knew how to contact her and express my support.

  • Karen

    This week they have morphed him into RFK, obviously the guy is nobody to he has to pretend he is someone else.

  • fran

    All of his speeches sound like rip offs to me: JFK, RFK, MLK. I think he watched a lot of film reels, and practiced. It never sounds like his own “voice.” He has no core.

    This is from a Post below:
    Comments in the first thread, “Hillary, We’re Here For You,” are now closed. Continue your conversations here. VIDEO UPDATE (thanks to V for sending me this video by Highwall70 — and DON’T MISS RFK Jr’s moving words!

    Question: Where are RFK Jr’s moving words? They’re not in the video below this post or in the comments.

    • TJ

      In the video, near the end.

  • JMC

    That’s fine if you support McCain.

    But please stop kidding yourself when you call yourself Hillary supporters or Democrats. That’s an insult to Hillary and the 40 years she has spent fighting for the rights of women and Americans everywhere.

    One of Hillary’s cornerstone issues is universal health care. John McCain CLEARLY opposes universal health care, and would veto any such bill that came across his desk. Obama support universal health care, and Hillary’s proposals in particular.

    Hillary has spend her career fighting for a woman’s right to choose. McCain is clearly OPPOSED to Hillary’s stance on that issue; Obama is not. McCain would appoint ultra-conservative Supreme Court justices that would serve for decades, and would have plenty of opportunities to overturn Roe Vs Wade.

    Hillary supports educations reforms that McCain opposes.

    Hillary supports withdrawing our troops, which McCain opposes.

    Hillary supports economic reforms that McCain opposes. McCain wants to make Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy, for corporations that ship our jobs overseas, and for oil companies permanent.

    Obama supports Hillary on nearly every issue. McCain doesn’t.

    So please, stop insulting Hillary Clinton and the fine work she has done for our country by referring to yourselves as Clinton supporters. She would be embarrassed to be associated with a group of turn-coats like you.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Hillary and McCain have integrity. Obama has none.

      • Uppity

        His “posing” does show you what a fraud he is. It’s all mind manipulation. The man is a fraud. To even Plan to strike JFK’s pose is a huge statement about this hoax of a candidate.

        • thenana1

          And if he gets into the WH, what changes will they make to the decor? Do you think he would even put a picture up of JFK?

      • http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/02/michelle-obama-dont-trust-bloggers-because-people-lie/ Kelly

        Integrity is the difference, I agree.

    • catherine

      How fucking dare YOU tell US that we insult Hillary when that’s what you slimy Obamabots have been doing since last year???

      Now all of a sudden YOU are Hillary defenders?! LOL

      You people are the most hypocritical repugnant scum ever! Because we are TRUE Democrats we will vote against that clown and his supporters who attacked, insulted, ridiculed and STOLE from Hillary Clinton!

    • jyotinc

      dig in more! I will not vote for OBama no matter what you say.

  • Peggy Sue

    I think I saw a similiar photograph that was used for Trinity Church’s magazine, “The Trumpet.” It popped up on The American Thinker site and immediately I thought, Oh give me a break, now he’s trying for the JFK pose. You know, so we all think and dream: days of Camelot.

    It’s all about controlling the image and the public’s perception, an American Idol rip-off. Only this has a cynical, sinister edge to it.

    Wake up, America!

  • marisa

    The DNC = the turn coats.

    Disenfranchising voters. Allowing caucus bullying to stand as democratic. Pressuring supers to endorse Obama or lose their jobs (also see Lieberman).

    The Democratic Party may as well be called the Fascist Party.

    Turn coats? No.

    Thinkers.

    • JMC

      So you don’t support Hillary or her policies?

      Great; the McCain camp will welcome you with open arms.

      • Karen

        We do support Hillary and will do so again
        in 2012.

      • cc

        They already have! and it feels GREAT!

  • Fae

    Our boy is in Iraq for the third time. Officer in Marines. He said no Obama. I will listen to him. I will do everything in my power to help stop this craziness.

  • Duck

    BFK and Blackie ‘O…….

    Too Funny

    • http://forwardtoyesterday Bob

      “Blackie O” — really? really? really?

      Is this something a Democrat would write? Well, not a non-racist Democrat, that’s for sure.

      Get a grip, please.

  • HARP

    I finally realized what this election is about.
    POTATOS

    BO supporters….Some people never seem motivated to participate, but are just content to watch while others do the work.
    They are called “Spec Taters.

    The Media…Some people never do anything to help, but are gifted at finding fault with the way others do the work.
    They are called “Comment Taters”.

    Trolls…..Some people are always looking to cause problems by asking others to agree with them. It is too hot or too cold, too sour or to sweet. They are called “Agie Taters”.

    The DNC…There are those who say they will help, but somehow just never get around to actually doing the promised help.
    They are called?”Hezzie Taters”.

    Barack Obama….Some people are very bossy and like to tell others what to do, but don’t want to soil their own hands.
    They are called “Dick Taters”.

    The good people at No Quarter…Then there are those who love others and do what they say they will. They are always prepared to stop whatever they are doing and lend a helping hand.

    They bring real sunshine into the lives of others.They are called “Sweet Po Taters

    • Karen

      And they call Obama supporters, the Creative Class.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Very clever! LOL*…..love it

    • cc

      VERY CUTE!

  • marisa

    If the choice is between my country and my party, then I will always side with my country.

    Voting along party lines for the sake of voting along party lines is stupid.

    One must consider the options and vote for the person she thinks will take the best care of the country as a whole.

    I do not march in a Nazi like line behind the Democratic candidate.

    I mean, if it were so easy, why not call Coulter a Dem and fall in line behind her?

    There is truth beyond labels.

    I choose to think.

    I hope that we will all do the same.

    • Five Thirty

      Yes – the DNC has just thrown away its reputation. A true Democrat cannot reward the failure to redo the Florida & Michigan 2008 Democratic primaries. So it is in the best interest of the Democratic Party for it not to be permitted to attain the Executive in 2008, in order to regain the Party’s integrity and preserve it for the long run.

      • cc

        Fire Thirty…that is right! we absolutely can NOT reward bad behavior. The democatic party does not deserve presidency after failing to make sure a revote happened in Michigan. Florida should have been counted as is…because people knew the candidates and a record number turned out at the polls. That shows the floridians were in tune with the national scene. As for Michigan, they should have demanded a revote, NO party should ever agree a whole state of voters would be silenced. The DNC also does not deserve the presidency for failing to stand up against sexism. They would have been there in a heartbeat if there was true racism being exhibited. To turn a blind eye to the awful ugly treatment Hillary received is reprehensible. Lastly to unfairly give BO nearly half of the MI delegates when he CHOSE to take his name off the ballot and REFUSED to allow a revote is UNACCEPTABLE. we must exercise a PROTEST vote in November. NO MEANS NO – NOBAMA! MCCAIN 2008!

      • http://forwardtoyesterday Bob

        Yes, very awful of them to award the victory in a delegate race to the person who got the most delegates. Horrible. Disgraceful. Yes, they should have ignored the caucus states and a few others you’d like to ignore, and done just what you liked because that’s what you wanted.

        For all her many strengths, your candidate made some terrible miscalculations and paid the price, ultimately alienating the superdelegates she was basing all of her hopes on. When the supers made a decision you guys didn’t like, you all go into collective anger and sulk mode.

        I can understand disappointment, I don’t understand the hate. But, of course, some of you have been swimming in that hate and this most despicable of pro-HRC sites for months, and you have my sympathies.

        Look folks, I was prepared and ready to vote for HRC the moment she won — even though I believed a win for her was as doomed and disastrous as you believe a win for Obama is, because of the response among young people and new African-American voters who would have had a reasonable case that that they had been disenfranchised. Still, I was going to vote for HRC. Giving the election to John McCain would not have done one speck of good.

        I don’t expect you guys to volunteer or even give money, but for God’s sake, look at the state of our country right now. We need healthcare now, we need to get out of Iraq now, we need economic policies that enable the middle class now. McCain is incapable of doing any of these things because of his rightwing political support and his personal conservative philosophy.

        Democrats will vote for Obama this fall. Others will vote for McCain. Make your choice.

        Your choice is simple: which do you love more, your country or your anger? If you really love your country more, and you still vote for McCain, I’ve got news for you: You’re a Republican. Hey, it’s your right to vote as you like, but at least be honest about it.

  • Uppity

    I knew JFK and as the saying goes…

    The only similarity between Barky and JFK is he’s left-handed.

    • AlyoshaKaramazov

      oh, and that he’s going to be president?

      Didja miss that one?

  • TJ

    We do support Hillary. We don’t support anyone who has participated in or been the willing beneficiary of the abuse that has been heaped upon her for wanting to serve our country.

  • claribel borden

    reminds me of the last scene in the X-Files episode,”Humbug”:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7095370536856093588&q=x+files+%2Bhumbug&ei=TxJLSMDdF5aYrAPtp6DBDA&hl=en

    One could say Mulder is nothing but a poseur, if you look at it the right way…

  • http://www.ceccoda@yahoo.com breeze

    Somebody help me here:

    Hillary mentions that the primaries were still
    going on in June, when RFK was assassinated.
    NEVER MENTIONED OBAMBI…..

    ALL HE!! BREAKS LOOSE: “She wants BO assassinated,
    too….”

    BO &Co compare him to JFK and THAT’s wonderful?
    And the more times, the better!!!

    Shoot, I am superstitious enough NOT to want to ever be compared to anyone who was killed like JFK!

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  • macaoidh

    There is NOTHING in close proximity to JFK and this imposter except for ONE thing:
    JFK was addicted to methamphetamines. He had a major drug problem. His Addison’s diesease caused it. He needed meds to function.
    Obama has zero excuse for his crack addiction.

  • tory

    Where were all the Obamazoids when Obambi was silent to the racism and sexism? Why weren’t you outraged?

    So since we all know the answer, please stop trying to persuade us to vote for this untrustworthy, egomaniac, “politician”. It’s not going to work, it won’t change our minds. Your Chosen One proved that everyday he said Nothing. Got it? great…

    Hillary/McCain ’08
    a vote for Mac means Obambi needs 2.

    now that’s what I’m talking about!

  • No Fraudz

    Poseur indeed!

    Coincidentally, pastor Manning also called out
    longingly for Senator Bentsen in the video below,
    perhaps wishing he could do the honours.

    Now, if you have never heard him before, please keep an open mind:, for he can deliver a mean punch
    interspersed with a few giggles:

    http://tinyurl.com/4ahxmf

  • http://hillaryorbust.blogspot.com Hillary or Bust

    The JFK comparison is bad karma. You’ve got to be out of your mind to keep comparing yourself to assassinated heroes such as JFK and MLK. You’re just asking for something bad to happen!

    And with this meme continually repeating, I really have a strong feeling that Obama will be assassinated, probably by the very people pulling the strings that put him in this position in the first place.

    Chaos will ensue. Martial law will be put into place.

    The question will now be, will they pull the trigger before or after the election?

    • pasmalltowngirl

      I also truly believe you are right. God forbid that he would get assassinated. But I believe that this election is a bigger conspiracy than we can even imagine, And that he is a puppet, in an effort to bring down the U.S.A. In a very few months his candidacy has managed to divide this country. Playing right into the hands of the terrorists.

  • Dawnelle

    When I watched her speech this morning, I felt something genuine in her voice. When she talked about dedicating her life to making America a better place, you could tell that was her deepest conviction.

    She seemed a little hesitant endorsing Obama, but she also seemed very confident when she said we cannot afford to allow the Republicans to hold The White House for another 4 years or more.

    In the end, I think Hillary’s decision to support Obama was what she feels is the best course for our country to follow. I’ve supported her so far, so there’s no reason for me to doubt her now.

    Let’s take back The White House for the Democrats and make America a better place.

  • Erik Reppen

    Obama vs. Dan Quayle & Hillary

    Obama is smart.

    Unlike Quayle and Hillary, Obama was never dumb enough to compare himself to a Kennedy.

    The bulk of the Kennedies and the majority of the DNC leadership didn’t line up behind Quayle or Hillary.

    Unlike Quayle and Hillary, Obama’s career isn’t reliant on getting the votes of shortsighted women.

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