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Obama’s Big Problem And How We Can Inflate It

The next in our continuing series of the viewpoints of our many readers – SusanUnPC


For months, the punditry as a whole seemed to constantly say the same thing. There was no way the Republicans could win in 2008. The Republicans would merely offer up a token candidate, let the Democrats win and then regroup to contest for the Oval Office in 2012.

In the remainder of this piece, it is hoped to show how a vicious minority inside the Democratic Party, under the guise of “unity” and change, possibly derailed the “inevitable” Democratic victory in November. At the very end, the possible pitfalls Hillary supporters must think of before doing anything rash.

The idea that a 2008 Democratic win is predicated on various observations and speculations. The first was the apparent lack of enthusiasm that a large segment of the Republican Party has for their presumed nominee, John McCain. These evangelicals were such a reliable block of partisan Republican voters one could almost set a wristwatch by them and with that vote missing in November, it significantly reduces the Republican turnout.

Most in the GOP simply were simply going to keep their heads low and just let the storm pass them by. The economy is teetering, the party is seen as largely responsible for the ongoing quagmire in Iraq and eight years of an increasingly unpopular President makes victory almost impossible. How could Democrats lose?

Even with John McCain’s curious about-faces regarding the use of torture as well as his embrace of Bush tax cuts, his national popularity is seen by some as a political miracle even now. Every political hack in the blogosphere loved to label him as McSame and McBush, denigrating him, mocking his age and making rather inappropriate comments regarding his wife. Stubbornly, McCain’s popularity has simply held around the 45% mark at the national level for most of the winter and spring.

Into the Presidential race entered one Barack Obama. A largely unknown political candidate, with a resume so thin, Paris Hilton has more qualifications. Mr. Obama saw his chance to fulfill his Presidential ambitions so he has stretched his arm out to grasp the fruit. In order to become President, first he had to eliminate his only true opposition: Hillary Clinton.

All of dirty tricks and ridiculous accusations are too numerous to be mentioned here but the effects are profound. By skillful use of partisans to seize a beachhead in the caucus states and a pliant mass media ever watchful for an opportunity to smear Hillary, the Obama campaign had its start in Iowa. From that point on, their goal of expunging the Clintons became clearer and increasingly more strident. Even the history of the Clintons had to be forcibly forgotten.

The Obama campaign had used a string of small victories to inflate their story to use as a form of propaganda for the next stage. For example, how often does the typical Obama supporter ramble on about twelve straight victories? As often as they could but always omit that most of those states would be lost by him in the general election, making those victories pyrrhic by nature. By the end of the primary season, soon-to-be imprisoned Karl Rove even noted that Mr. Obama was limping across the finish line.

Still, these early victories over Hillary were the perfect sound bites to keep their ball rolling and as long as there was positive media spin on CNN and MSNBC it could hide what was going on inside the party as well what was happening on the Internet.

Here is where the plot thickens.

What happened next in the blogosphere world will go down in infamy. Suddenly, partisan attacks began against Clinton. In particular on various “progressive” blogs such as Huffington Post and Daily Kos, to name but two, supporters of Hillary began to witness extremely hostility. Originally, many just viewed this development as almost par for the course and some suspected that as Obama’s victories became fewer and fewer, his supporters became more adamant to make up for it. While I can’t prove this assertion, it makes many wonder if there is a great deal of insecurity in their belief in the viability of Obama. The internecine fighting between Carter and Kennedy in 1980 is relatively well-known and many simply assumed the Clinton-Obama rivalry would be more of the same.

Even before the whole Reverend Wright mess, the obvious misogyny was clearly evident, yet little was done by moderators of many of these sites; eventually, speculation about incompetence soon gave way to the idea that these sites were obviously sympathetic to the Obama campaign. Many comments had Obama supporters calling Hillary a bitch, a c-nt, or a Republican with many dittohead-like agreements to follow. The Huffington Post, for example, became one of those right-wingish echo chambers that they used to complain so fervently about. Though they did not realize it at the time, but their victory in the blogosphere was like all other Obama victories this year: pyrrhic.

As the Hillary campaign turned a corner and began winning, the calls for “the bitch” to simply drop out increased dramatically and those that supported Hillary by voting for her were obviously racist. No other explanation was tolerated. You could try and tell them facts like Puerto Rican voters were not racist because that was one of the few primaries Jesse Jackson won in 1988. No matter. Hillary voters were racists and that was that! Mr. Obama was black, the voters who didn’t vote for them were white. Ipso facto, people in West Virginia, Kentucky, rural Pennsylvania are totally racist and must be shamed into voting the correct way!

The other defining issue of this race was the problems of Michigan and Florida. While each side can argue their respective positions, by the time of the decision made at the end of May, the math of the whole thing was largely irrelevant. Instead of simply allowing the Michigan and Florida results to simply stand as-is and have all delegates be seated in Denver, with the issue of advanced primary dates and consequences being sent to a special committee to bring sanity to the rules themselves, the committee decided to insult everyone, mostly the Clinton supporters. That isn’t to say the Obama people haven’t been given the shaft, they just have not realized it… yet. They may have won the RBC battle, but again, that was a pyrrhic victory and seriously damaged party unity.

At the time of that final decision, Hillary had the popular vote, Mr. Obama had the pledged delegates and just allowing these elections to stand would have done NOTHING to the overall outcome. Neither would have gained enough pledged delegates to win outright and since they superdelegates were going to ignore the popular vote anyways that had little effect either. The end result of such a boneheaded decision were very unhappy Hillary supporters and significant portions of Michigan and Florida voters are unimpressed, to put it nicely. Obama managed to curtail Hillary’s numbers but in a big way, he cut off his own nose to spite his face.

Why did this article begin with Republican weakness, then onto the childish and juvenile behavior on Democratic web forums and finally to the rules committee debacle? Let’s ask a few other question first.

Is the weakness of the Republican party that deep? People assumed that the Republicans were discouraged by a sense of hopelessness for 2008. With the fracture of the Democratic party, what happens if this sense of hopelessness begins to fall away? With the word hope passing through Obama’s lips every eleven seconds, the only party that has hope now are the Republicans. Hope that the Democrats are fractured enough that their own vote will be suppressed and, better still, some of those Democratic votes go into Mr. McCain’s column.

For those Hillary supporters who have made loud pronouncements that they would vote for McCain to somehow support Hillary rethink their positions. If you truly wanted to help Hillary in 2012 you may not want to vote Republican.

It will be the most obvious way the Democrats will punish Mrs. Clinton with if she decides to run as a Democrat in the future. They could also use that as an excuse to try and pull a “Ned Lamont” to punish her for the actions of her supporters, if it hasn’t already been threatened behind closed doors.

There is another problem. What if McCain remains popular through 2012? Once he gets in there, it may be hard to get people to vote him out. Are you sure you want to put him in now? Just because Hillary supporters wish him to be a fine President, I have to say his drastic policy changes of the last few years seriously bring into question Mr. McCain’s sensibilities.

Quitting the party may be a foolish idea considering Hillary is a life-long Democrat despite what the Mr. Obama supporters try to intone. If you live in a state with a closed primary, you would be unable to support Hillary in the future.

Simply do not vote for Mr. Obama, or just vote for the Green Party candidate. Cynthia McKinney is black and she’s a woman. This way, the Mr. Obama propaganda corps will be unable to say that Mr. Obama lost because the Democrats became turncoats and voted Republican. They cannot then also claim her supporters are racists. Disgruntled Democrats simply voted for a third party as a protest vote.

If you want to do something now, when the DNC telemarketers call asking for contributions, tell them simply that the cheque is in the mail. Just don’t tell them you tore the check in half. Only mail half a cheque as a way to signal your disgust at the idea of a half vote. This is one of the more creative responses yet heard on this website.

If you can, donate directly to your local Democratic candidate or incumbent and ensure that they know you are deliberately cutting out Obama and the DNC itself. It is rumored that Mr. Obama has encouraged people to not contribute to other candidates and organizations. Mr. Obama hasn’t imposed a politburo and centralized control so take advantage of it right now before it is too late.

I have to be honest here and say I’m genuinely caught in a dilemma.

For one, the idea that the Republicans should profit from this infighting is problematic. The reason, after all, why each side is so fervent is to prevent a Republican victory after all.

On the other hand, I cannot stand the idea of someone like Obama winning with the tactics for which his campaign is obviously guilty of.

Mr. Obama’s legacy will not be defined in history as the first African-American ever to gain the nomination of a major American political party, nor that he outmaneuvered the great insurmountable Clinton political machine, but instead Mr. Obama will be remembered as the one who lost the 2008 election even as the stars themselves were aligned for a Democratic victory.

  • HARP

    First we get rid of Obama. Then we can zero in on the R`s.

  • standard

    OT: McCain voted FOR Boxer’s Global Warming Bill.
    It was killed by senate republicans. I am warming up to McCain as president.

  • AF catfish

    Check out Christin Todd Whitman in today’s NYT: Boys on the Bias.

    Fifteen years after I was elected New Jersey’s first female governor, women running for office continue to face huge obstacles. Indeed, watching Hillary Clinton these last few months, it’s clear that voters and the news media still struggle with images and expectations of women as candidates.

    When Mrs. Clinton made points forcefully, people called her shrill, not bold and determined. When Mitt Romney teared up, he was described as compassionate, while she was labeled weak.

    For its part, the news media paid too much attention to Mrs. Clinton’s haircuts and jackets, ignoring the male candidates and their endless parade of blue suits and red ties. The press presented Barack Obama with his two years in the Senate as an agent of change, not a novice. In contrast, ABC’s Charles Gibson asked Mrs. Clinton if she would “be in this position” if it weren’t for her husband.

    I know the Repubs are courting — or some would say “pandering” — for our votes, but really they don’t have to try. The truth is on their side.

  • roseeriter

    I don’t want the republicans to win and I refuse to vote for NOBAMA. Green Party or Nader sounds good but Hillary as an Independent would be great.

    Either way I believe in integrity, principles now more than either party loyalty. Blind loyalty is foolish.

    Great diary!!

  • http://witlist.blogspot.com dt

    sour grapes much?

    see the following:

    Hillary Clinton Cancels Large Pottery Barn Order
    Senator may lose $30 million deposit

    http://witlist.blogspot.com/2008/06/hillary-clinton-cancels-large-pottery.html

    By Dan Tynan
    Special to the WitList

    CHAPPAQUA, NY — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has quietly canceled a large order from popular catalog store The Pottery Barn, sources close to her former campaign have reported.

    The former first lady had ordered more than a dozen rooms’ worth of furniture, rugs, and wall art, as well as a new china set for 200 guests. “Senator Clinton will no longer be needing those items,” said an aide who asked to remain anonymous. “We have no further comment at this time.”

    The Senator, who formally suspended her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination yesterday, had apparently placed the order last December, just ahead of the Iowa Caucuses.

    Sources close to her campaign say they remain stunned by the outcome. The former first lady had been considered a virtual lock for the nomination when the campaign began in January 2007.

    “We expected to be greeted as liberators,” said one aide. “We were told it would be a slam dunk. Then this Hussein character showed up and took us by surprise. Obviously the intelligence we relied on was wrong.”

    The aide acknowledged that it was probably a mistake to hang a “Mission Accomplished” banner across the campaign’s New York headquarters last May. The aide also said choosing Celine Dion’s “You and I Were Meant to Fly” as the campaign’s official song was another blunder.

    “Even my mother doesn’t listen to Celine Dion,” he says. “Personally, I think we should have stuck with our first choice, Elton John’s ‘The Bitch is Back.’ It was way catchier.”

  • dated hillary, married obama

    McCain did not vote for the bill.

  • Pink Panther

    I will not vote for Obama. No way-no how. Any person of conscious will not vote for this sexist, racist, and misogynist “candidate.”

  • spiro

    As someone who has voted Democrat for president for more than 30 years, I just want to say this: I’m an American first. Obama is dangerous. Vote the Green Party? Remember, the people who wasted their vote on Nader gave us George Bush. If your two major choices are Obama and McCain, do what is right for your country!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Nicely written argumentative piece….thanks. I am not in the least worried about what the DNC will say about Hillary, however, if Obama loses.

    The facts are clear. She put forth her argument repeatedly about her superior electability. They chose to ignore her. They will learn that she was on the nose.

    Check out McCain’s strategy presentation. They are clear on just what they need to do and how to do it, too.

  • GoHillary

    Great article!
    Especially the part about the insanity of RBC decision.
    Did they just want to rub Hillary and her supporters nose in the dirt and prepare them for future subservience?

    However, I disagree with not voting for McCain. Every vote we cast for McCain cancels out one vote for nobama. Some states don’t allow write ins and who knows, these crooks may find a way to tally up the “uncommitted votes” on the side of nobama and maybe even take some votes away from McCain and give them to nobama, on the pretext that those were democrats and they should have voted party-line. Just like they did in Michigan.

    No one is going to care in 4 years whether nobama lost because of what.
    As the author says above, he will be infamous only for the fact that he could manage to lose when defeat was impossible!

    It is imperative that we make sure of that. If we threw our vote away by voting for the green party or staying at home and if by some chance nobama sneaked in by a few votes by some sort of skullduggery, would we not be responsible?

    It is also unimportant what these bigots in the DNC think. We must do the right thing as it appeals to our conscience. Not let it be influenced by calculations what people may think in the future.

    Evil triumphs when good women decide to do nothing!

  • roseeriter

    You forgot though to add the Republicans for a day, Operation Chaos and how that had a lot to do with the anti-Hillary talking points and how these groups did a unfortunately, a good job at pitting us against each other. However, NO ONE in the Obama camp addressed the misogyny, lies and personal attacks even though many were aware of thes bully tactics. Instead the bulk of them piled on and on, so those Democrats are just as guilty of the division.

    Sadly, the only winner is Karl Rove as he predicted this.

  • Tyrone

    If you haven’t figured this out already, John McCain is a one term president. He hinted at this before, however he might not say it now since he would be perceived as a “lame duck” President. This is your best chance at Hillary in 2012. As you many have already noticed, Obama Christ has already declared victory and boasted about him leaving office in 2016. Hillary has virtually no shot at this thing again if this happnens. She will be in her 70′s as you know.

    So, it’s either she run again in 4 years after 4 yrs of McCain, or never run again.

  • Troll Free Zone

    I’ve refered to the empty one as Barack “Paris Hilton” Obama. Glad to see someone else note the resemblance.

  • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

    I wrote a thank you note to Hillary that discusses the misogyny of the media and the Obombers.

    I’m a fairly reasonable man and love to discuss differences with intelligent, thinking people but the Obombers infuriated me.

    I’ve always believed the left was the “reality-based community” but the selection of Obama makes me think twice about that.

  • http://musingonobama.blogspot.com portia9

    Absolutey. PUMA all the way.

  • Tommy

    To all concerned citizens and American Patriots ;

    Questions have been asked numerous times;some questions simple,some complex,some without merit ,some based upon History and many questions have been asked based upon the very present,but without true answers, many having been dodged or simply referred to as not relevant to the present.

    I believe one question is relevant and without doubt has to be dealt with in a civil way but a defining way that exposes the underlying potential damage America will suffer if Mr Barrack Obama is elected President of the United States of America.

    Watching Fox News April 30th 2008 Greta van Sustern interviewed John Murtaugh discussing the 1970 attack on his family by the Weather Underground,William Ayers and wife Bernadine Dohrn. In the interview this was discussed; >>>John Murtaugh’s father a presiding judge over the trial of 21 Black Pathers accused of conspiracy to commit their own acts of terror ,became the Weather Underground’s target as a strategy to force the state to release the defendants.

    In short, the masterminds William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn plotted to bomb the Honorable Judge John Murtaugh’s home with family in bed. Judge Murtaugh’s wife and children included.

    # 1 question America must answer truthful without any reservation or fear of any repercussion

    During the April 16 debate between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, moderator George Stephanopoulos brought up “a gentleman named William Ayers,” who “was part of the Weather Underground in the 1970s. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, and other buildings. He’s never apologized for that.” Stephanopoulos then asked Obama to explain his relationship with Ayers. Obama’s answer: “The notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.” Obama was indeed only eight in early 1970. I was only nine then, the year Ayers’s Weathermen tried to murder me.

    First, I do agree, America cannot hold Mr Obama accountable at 8 yrs old nor 12 yrs old or even 15 yrs old for events he knew nothing about.

    However, the question has to be answered once Mr Obama became familiar with William Ayers and the knowledge Mr Obama had when William Ayers endorsed Mr Obama at a fund raiser in William Ayers home. Mr Obama cannot have a free pass now ,neither can Mr Obama deny his knowledge of the acts William Ayers committed.

    In 2007 William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn said they did not do enough and wished they had done more.

    To the question at hand: In 2007 Obama knew William Ayers,Bernadine Dornh;so does America give free pass to Obama now that he received at age 8 since Mr Obama cannot tell America he is 8 yrs old and shouldn’t be held accountable for acts of violence Ayers has done and would do?

    America can hold Mr Obama accountable and should hold him accountable for what he does know and knew in 2007….

    The right answer has to be;America cannot give Mr Obama a free pass now.

    America cannot hold a person accountable for events and things the person doesn’t know,but, American has to hold Obama accoutable for things and events he knows about now…In 2007 and before Mr Obama was fully aware of William Ayers bombing the home of Judge Murtaugh and other crimes William Ayers has committed, and would given the opportunity…

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/04/30/2008-04-30_barack_obama_pal_is_an_enemy_too.html

  • Tyrone
  • drkate

    I see a couple of strategies: vote green or nader becuase it takes away votes from Obama. Vote McCain to ensure Obama’s loss.

    I think we need to get organized to enhance obama’s weaknesses, so by the time he arrives at the convention the dems will know full well about obama.

    I just wrote to the governor my red state who endorsed obama….and copied him a letter to the editor that I was going to write:

    I am truly sorry the democratic party in xxx, including superdelegate Governor xxx, jumped on the Obama bandwagon without much thought, and without apparently even considering Obama’s connection to radical elements of American society. Since they endorsed him with lots of fanfare but no explanation, it is once again up to the people to inform our elected leaders about the cliff they are driving us off.

    One of the first considerations is Obama’s 20 year relationship with Reverend Wright’s church, which is grounded in black liberation theology. In this world view, white people are considered the enemy of God and the world. Father Phleger, the priest who spoke at Reverend Wright’s church and crassly decried Clinton as a “white woman trying to take a black man’s place” is also a 20 year associate with Barack Obama. And finally, unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers, who proudly stated “we didn’t do enough bombing of America”, is a 20-year close associate with Barack Obama. These connections of Obama, plus his campaigning for his cousin Odinga in Kenya (the one who has been accused of murder) make it virtually certain that Barack Obama couldn’t even get a security clearance.

    Finally, let’s not forget the corruption trial of Tony Rezko, which has already implicated Governor Blageovich, and Barack Obama. This was a “pay to play” scheme which gave monetary donations to politicians who paved the way for certain contractors and businesses to win lucrative hospital and real estate contracts.

    Do you now see why the democrats were in such a rush to anoint Obama? So this kind of information wouldn’t be revealed in time for people to make an informed decision! Now we’re stuck with him!

    This life-long democrat cannot, in all good conscience, vote for Barack Obama or support the Democratic party’s anointment of the most unqualified candidate for President in 30 years. I care about my country too much to be a blind follower of the latest “bright shiny object” in democratic politics.

    I asked him to do his research and to be prepared to change his vote. I also told him I was not voting for down ticket dems who jumped on the bandwagon. IN this red state they want a lot of dems to win this year.

  • hootnannie

    As far as changing party affiliation and then not being able to switch back to support Hillary: in most, if not all states, switching can be done months before a primary. And voting in general elections is not affected by party affiliation. If Hillary is indeed nominated officially at the convention, people of all or no parties can vote for her in the GE. IMO, most Dems who will vote, if necessary, for McCain will do so not because they’re miffed, but because they either believe Obama is too dangerous to elect or because they believe JM is simply a better candidate. And, by switching parties and letting the Dems know about it, Hillary supporters can send a message to the super delegates.

  • alibe4Hillary

    I am concerned that there is a psyops type program that has nearly taken over the Dem Party. What else accounts for the bizarre set of circumstances that have permeated the Democratic party scene? Imagine if a practically unknown entity had access to unlimited amounts of money. So much money as to be unfathomable. And very little background and no history. All this before he even won a primary. The media fawning over a Democrat who is supposed to be the most liberal Senator in the Senate. Yea I believe that. And a whole network in love with a Democrat..yea that happens. Despite not having passed a liberal bill, except a bill he collaborates with John McCain (a man who also wants an achievement to go along with his campaign…also discount some strange intersections with each others advisers….like father and son..Brzezinski’s) Never mind your suspicion. This candidate is vague and charismatic (or so they keep saying). Games the caucus system. Is able to have two key states not have their votes counted until they could be stolen away and therefore make his caucus wins seem important. Can’t really win many of the big important primary states, but everyone won’t mention it. He gets his feelings hurt easily. His campaign and the media collude to paint his opponent as a racist and a monster. Any attempt to challenge these absurd assumptions are met with screams of negative campaigning from the media, still fawning and the campaign itself, still attacking and feigning outrage. The public, believes the media, and feels sorry for Obama. No evidence, except a memo from Obama campaign that tells of strategy to find and use anything as a ploy to accuse the Clintons of racism. No folks, move along. Nothing untoward here. And those blogs who were once rational and sane, suddenly became presidents of Obama’s Fan Clubs. Just coincidence. It doesn’t seem strange at all. Does it? No, Obama for me. I will vote McCain with nary a whit of guilt, but a lot of remorse for what should heve been. Obama must be defeated so we have a Dem Party left.

  • Dem_base

    Nothing stops in November. This is about more than Hillary Clinton. It’s moved past rallying behind a candidate.

    Donna Brazille told the ones being left behind by the party to “stay home” in November. The Dems “do not need us anymore”. If you throw your vote away to the Green party you are going along with what they want you to do.

    Do you think for one minute voting for the Green party is going to keep the Donna Brazille’s in the DNC from blaming Hillary Clinton? Please.

    The current regime of the DNC is going to blame the Clintons for everything that’s gone wrong as it keeps the blame from being pointed where it should be…right back at them.

    Defeating Obama is the first step in getting back control of the DNC. When Wonderboy goes down in a big way in November and the expected surge of “new voters” and cash is shown to be a fraud – the Obama supporters in the DNC look like the fools they are.

    We are taking things down ticket as well. Anyone who supported Obama is at risk in November and in the years ahead.

    First Obama then the idiots in the DNC that supported him.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Disaffected Democrats are now the swing voters. We will definitely be courted.

    Right now, they are counting on 13% of the Democratic base to swing away from the party. I submit that number is ridiculously low. Today’s poll shows 40% of Democrats not voting Democrat.

    The Republicans have their own disaffected group, too. So McCain will also have to reach out to them. Those are the anti-Bush Republicans.

    Clearly, the way he can accomplish this is to appeal to the moderates from both parties.

    He can do that.

    Obama cannot.

  • stodghie

    and your reason for posting this is? yeah, that’s what i thought. come back later when obama has lost with another article why don’t you? no, that’s what i thought.

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com/contribute/IJ97 Colin

    She was 60/61 this campaing. She would still be younger than JMcC, and as young as Reagan in 68. Woman also often keep more of their faculties later in life. On average woman live 7 years or something longer, right?

    Battlegound States must vote McCain. Only non-Swing, sure-thing states have the luxury of staying home. You must vote McCain. Every Nader vote was a vote for Bush.

  • democrat no more

    Nobama for me in any direction. I’ll vote somebody else. The party should be punished.

  • drkate

    good points, all. I think the DNC has to come crashing down, and that is really only going to happen if they lose in a landslide. More reasons to vote McCain. But if you can’t stomach mccain, then vote green, nader…not bob barr–that takes votes away from McCain. Besides, Barr led the impeachment of Clinton.

  • roseeriter

    Sheesh, you are almost convincing me to vote McCain. Maybe I’ll make that decision when we find out who the VPs will be.

  • Dem_base

    If being a patriot was easy – we would not be in this mess in the first place.

    Vote McCain!

    The bigger the landslide, the easier the work to rebuild.

  • stodghie

    personally i think some of these blogs got something in return. what? i can’t say. for myself when i saw ms huffington talking about hillary, i wanted to throw a shoe at the tv last night. i used to like the lady and even exchanged emails with her. but her huffington post is now on my do not go to list.

    speaking for me, i am going to find out what writing hillary’s name will do in the general. if not i’ll consider bob barr. mckiney had me as an admirer of sorts till she went nuts and started hitting people. i understand if she was set up but in other ways she went kinda nuts.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Yes, I completely agree about challenging the elite on the downticket.

    Kerry is running and has challengers. Pelosi, too, I understand has to defend her seat for the first time.

    If nothing else, make them spend a lot of money.,

  • lourdes

    “If you truly wanted to help Hillary in 2012 you may not want to vote Republican.”

    Get real: the msm conglomerate will never allow her to become president. Never. And at age 69, the extra ammunition to kill her candidacy would be really painful to be watched.

    The undemocratic party turned to the left and will not be back to the center in a long while. It’s not about the party “punishing” Hillary. It’s about not letting her ever get the chance to run again.

    “Simply do not vote for Mr. Obama, or just vote for the Green Party candidate.”

    Not voting for the Mac is a sure way to have Hussain electedf. It will be like not voting at all, like not being counted.

    I said before in a post here: many Hillary’s supporters will lose the anger by November and will chicken out. Sorry, don’t take those last words personally, is a way to illustrate the dampening of the will to defeat Hussain.

    we must accept the fact: American politics have turned to the worst. This is a new era. The radical left is in position to engage in a fight with the “capitalists”. Anyone in their path will be run over mercilessly.

  • not bitter

    I have to disagree. McCain is having trouble holding onto his own Republican base, and even more trouble courting independents.

    The key issue is that he stands side-by-side with George Bush on Iraq and the economy, and he voted 95% with Bush’s position in the Senate last year.

    Polls showed that over 70% of independents disagreed with McCain on key issues, and over 90% of Democrats disagreed.

    The war and the economy are the two biggest issues people are voting on this November, and if McCain continues to side with Bush on those issues, he’ll have a very tough time winning.

  • B from Bloomington

    Sending a half check… great idea! I’m in.

    Yesterday I downloaded the book advertised on this website, “Obama, the Postmodern Coup”. It is an excellent read. Too bad the kool-aid kids can’t comprehend.

  • stodghie

    yeah, these losers need to be pulled away from their corporate masters and the money. if mccain were to get the wh, i wonder if he’ll come out with his anti lobby position again. of course the dem congress will run screaming into the night versus giving up their money supply. but let him put them on record. also start telling your local congress critters just what will get their sorry selves voted out of power. attend their town halls and tells them vocally.

  • typical irishman

    So what if McCain should remain popular in 2012? If he has earned that popularity, so be it. I haven’t heard a good arguement yet that would compell me not to vote for McCain. Besides if Clinton endorses Obama and she has, I don’t know as I would want to vote for Hillary in 2012. Seems to me the idea of Obama sitting in Wrights church for 20 years means that Obama agreed with him also applys to Clinton endorsing Obama now. No, I still think America comes before any party loyalty. Obama is not fit to be the president of the USA. And Hillary’s endorsement of Obama does not alter the fact.

  • PssttCmere
  • Kerry Downs

    Obama! Obama! Obama! Obama! Obama! Obama! Obama!

    “Just wait till the Michelle Whitey tape comes out then its over for Barack HUSSEIN Obama.”

    Just wait guys most Republicans I’ve spoken to say they are voting Obama, I met a 79 year old white woman before the primaries were over and she said she was upset that Bill Clinton used taxpayer dollars to pay for his defense against his sex scandal and she is even more upset that Hillary stayed with him.

  • drkate

    The best argument to not vote McCain is his stand on the issues.

    Hillary spent 40 years of her career fighting for universal health care and a woman’s right to choose, among other things. McCain is against Hillary’s stand on both those issues, and he’s also against her plan to withdraw from Iraq, reform education, and fix the economy.

    As a Clinton supporter, I couldn’t sleep at night knowing I voted for a man that stands against everything she spent her life fighting for.

  • Danny

    I will give money only to local and my state Democratic Parth that openly supported Hillary early and often. To those local dems who supported Obama, they will only get my anti -Obama vote (for being so stupid). I want to see the Democratic party split into two new Party’s I’m not going to stay a Democrat and make nice with fucktard Obama Surrogates and supporters.

    I will not vote for the fantazy favorite Big Brown when the evil in the world that is supporting Obama, when that energy killed Two-Belles on the track (I could be crazy, you decide). But I see Obama as Big Brown losing this race in a landslide victory for John McCain and that has nothing to do with Hillary.

  • Kerry Downs

    How could anybody have supported a woman who stayed with her husband despite the fact that he received oral sex from a girl just 6 years older than his only child, he also admitted to sticking a cigar holder in her vagina in the oval office. Hillary Clinton stayed with this man, it is absolutely appaling when a woman decides to degrade herself like this by staying with a man like that. Its disgusting.

  • BluDawg

    McCain is a maverick.
    the ce
    A half a Republican to his own conservative base.

    Better that than the Chicago Thugs.

    Sorry but the far left’s marxist tactics scares me even more than the far right.

    McCain may be right of center, but he’s still in the center…where Lunch Bucket Democrats also reside.

    I could no more reward Obama and the DNC for thier crimes against democracy, than I could disown my typical duty to vote.

    Obama is a serial thief of voters rights.

    Has been since his very first campaign!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Well, so far, the polls don’t support you. He’s ahead in some very important states, including PA and FL and neck and neck in Ohio.

    He’s even going to dig in on CA, and I think it’ll be interesting to watch and see how he does there.

  • typical irishman

    No way I will sit at home in the GE. I intend to try and help DEFEAT Obama and WHOEVER his running partner(VP) may be. I will cast my vote Against BO and vote a YES for McCain.

  • nickoury

    Spiro, I like that name. Pretty simple straightforward choice. This is 2008 America, not 2008 Amerika, or 1917 Russia.

  • Cindy

    ME too! Republicans are more honest….if they’re going to knife you, they don’t do it in the back, like Democrats. They do it to your face. Give me that ANY day over the deceitful snakes on the DNC.

  • fred

    Hi I am Barack Obama and I am selling UNITY
    all its takes is a little piece of your soul and the lost of self respect. Yes folks you to can have the YES WE CAN PACKAGE that includes Democrat sellouts, bloggers who wrote for years the truth why I was not a good candidate and exposed my inexperience miraculously awaken Obamatized in the blood, and don’t forget Judases!you can walk arm and arm with the Judas of your choice. White working class i am offering you a chance to be cool hip you could say with the million of others I voted for the black guy, how cool is that. If you unify right now we will send you this bonus cd of Jay Z “I got 66 problems but a BITCH aint one” So act now or there will be riots on the street…
    This Ad Was Paid For By Bros B4 Hos

  • standard

    I think McCain will move to keep us in his graces.
    I think the Republican party will welcome us the way Fox News welcomed our viewership.
    Unlike the Fascist party that thinks of us as a yo yo on its string.

  • Danny

    If Hillary doesn’t win this time, and I’m one who thinks she still can be the President in 2009. She is not going to run again, unless bama makes her his running mate(long shot).

    My theory is Obama just plain loses it the way the Republicans planned it all along. And they were right. People who bought into Obama as the second coming are out of touch and that’s it. They don’t get it now – but they might get it later.

  • typical irishman

    I can sleep alright voting for what I think is best for America–not what is best for Hillary Clinton.

  • jwrjr

    The post, while mostly good, makes an assumption that is, at least for some of us, not correct. That assumption is that a vote for McCain is nothing more than a protest vote against Obama. I consider voting for McCain for one reason and only one reason. That reason is that President McCain would not be as bad for the country as President Obama would be. (Feel free to disagree about that, but be prepared to support your conclusion.) Also, historically, the country fares better when the President and the Congress are of different political parties. (I don’t know that the current Congress should vount given its utter lack of a spine.) So President McCain with a Democratic Congress may not be such a bad thing.

  • Kerry Downs

    There are far far more disenchanted Republicans who are absolutely sickened by the incompetance of the Bush administration over the last 8 years, you disgruntled Hillary supporters are a minority who are upset over a contest that lasted a mere 5 months.

    Just remeber guys John McCain voted 95% of the time with George Bush in 2007 and 100% in 2008 thus far.

    That $6 a gallon gas, record food prices and massive deficit does not sound good to me. I dont think any “lunch bucket” Democrat is stupid enough this time around to vote for John McCain.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Also, his favorability ratings are higher than Obama’s are.

    I never got why people thought Obama could appeal to Independents who are moderate/conservative. That one just never jangled right to me. Sure enough, Hillary was far more successful with that group.

    Obama gets to left-leaning Independents, of course. But he has those already. He needs NEW voters.

    Won’t be the rural vote. He lost by landslides.

    Won’t be the disaffected Dems.

    Latinos? I think McCain will take a chunk of those.

    Jewish Dems? I sorta doubt it after his recent flip-flopping.

    So where are these voters coming from?

    Women, I suppose.

  • Dawnelle

    Let’s not fool ourselves here. Being a McCainBot isn’t any better than an ObamaBot.

    McCain isn’t a maverick. He flip-flopped on the war, he flip-flopped on Bush’s tax cuts for the rich, he flip-flopped on warrantless wiretaps, and he voted with Bush 95% of the time in the Senate last year.

    Bush and McCain are very, very close on the issues. And McCain stands very far apart on the issues from Hillary.

    If you’re a true Hillary supporter, I don’t understand how you could vote for McCain. He doesn’t support her stance on Iraq, the economy, universal health care, education reform, and a lot more.

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/ Gloria

    I left my column at Buzzflash once they went off the rails. They are based in Chicago. The owner runs a small PR firm and they had recently LOST an account with a progressive organization….the money begging started bigtime and then they started shilling for Obama. Makes me wonder if they didn’t replace their lost account with cash from Obama….

  • max

    Some insight about Obama & the entities supporting him. He is the product of “Red” Chicago. Chicago,the Mid-West is one of bedrocks of the communist movement in the USA. Started in the 1920’s

    Here is a book on the history of it:

    Red Chicago : American communism at its grassroots, 1928-35

    http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&sourceid=ca-print-uofillinois_press&vid=isbn0252032063

    About the book from link:
    Realities of the street-level American Communist experience during the worst years of the Depression Red Chicago is a social history of American Communism set within the context of Chicago’s neighborhoods, industries, and radical traditions. Using local party records, oral histories, union records, party newspapers, and government documents, Randi Storch fills the gap between Leninist principles and the day-to-day activities of Chicago’s rank-and-file Communists. Uncovering rich new evidence from Moscow’s former party archive, Storch argues that although the American Communist Party was an international organization strongly influenced by the Soviet Union, at the city level it was a more vibrant and flexible organization responsible to local needs and concerns. Thus, while working for a better welfare system, fairer unions, and racial equality, Chicago’s Communists created a movement that at times departed from international party leaders’ intentions. By focusing on the experience of Chicago’s Communists, who included a large working-class, African American, and ethnic population, this study reexamines party members’ actions as an integral part of the communities in which they lived and the industries where they worked. A volume in the series The Working Class in American History, edited by David Brody, Alice Kessler-Harris, David Montgomery, and Sean Wilentz

    You can also preview sections of the book from the link.

    Again the link

    http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF-8&sourceid=ca-print-uofillinois_press&vid=isbn0252032063

  • LN

    Hillary Clinton is a person of great religious faith. She did not take her marriage vows. “until death do us part”, lightly.

    All the more reason to have confidence that she will not abandon her sworn duty to this country.

  • standard

    sounds . . . sexy!

  • Peter

    I want all of the Hillary supporters to vote for my candidate John McCain in 2008, so I can vote against her in 2012. I don’t want that Muslim to win this year and theres no way I’m voting for a woman in 2012 especially not dare I say Hillary Clinton. I hate her just as much as I did in the 90′s when she was talking about socialized medicine, I’m looking forward to us Republicans getting the opportunity to kick her ass.

    McCain 08′!

  • BJinChicago

    I agree, I can’t imagine voting for a person who stands at odds with Hillary on almost every issue.

    Voting McCain is not the best option for Hillary supporters.

    Remember that Hillary has spent 40 years in public service fighting with integrity for the issues she believes in.

    McCain is against Hillary on Iraq, on health care, on education reform, and on the economy. McCain actually stands with Bush on most of those issues, and look what the last 8 years of Bush gave us.

  • Athena

    It is apparent there is a group within the Democratic leadership that wants the Clintons out of the picture. You and the Clintons probably know the parties.

    Hillary and her supporters are going to get blamed if Obama loses, regardless if she and her supporters give full support to him. If Obama wins, she and her supporters are not going to get credit. People need to do the right thing; in my opinion that is to not vote for Obama.

    The Clintons need to find out, if they don’t already know, which individuals are blocking their leadership and deal with that issue before trying to run again in the Democratic Party.

  • Peter

    Vote McCain in 08′ so I can vote against Clinton in 2012. No Muslims and no women will be leader of my country.

  • Danny

    Comment by Kerry Downs | 2008-06-08 13:51:28

    Keep it up – with every word you are cementing the loss of Obama. Just keep bashing the Clinton’s that will work for you Obamamite.

    Bill Clinton is one of only two Democrats that found a way into the White House in 40 years and the only one that had two terms. Keep out of the Clinton’s personal life, it is none of your GOD DAMN business. How would you like us to look into your personal life with – oh – Nobody huh!

  • ulahane

    Remember that Obama voted for the Cheney energy bill while McCain voted against it. So which candidate is more responsible for the current energy problems? No one who cares about this country is “stupid enough” to vote for Obama.

  • LN

    Yes, I agree. If, and that’s a big if, I vote for McCain, it will be because I truly believe that B. H. Obama will be worse for the country.

    And right now, my confidence in the man is non-existent.

  • typical irishman

    LOL! Obama has already earmaked $825,000,000,000 for countries like Africa. Comeon in and get your REPARATION allowance children. Bill Clinton’s blow job didn’t cost anything, except what the neocons wanted to invest in the Ken Star crap.

  • Hope Floats

    I watched the Republican primaries, and it seened that McCain would be out of it a couple of times, especially because of his sponsoring the immigration bill with Ted Kennedy. He has phenomenal luck as a politician, and I have no qualms about voting for him. I have never had problems switching back and forth between parties, and the reason we have two is so the voters have choices. I see elections as cyclical trends in the body politic. This blind loyalty to party thing is frightening.

  • BluDawg

    Thanks for your thoughts.

    The future is an opaque mirror. Anyone who tries to look into it sees nothing but the dim outlines of an old and worried face.

  • Kerry Downs

    Remember Hillary voted for Bush’s Iraq war. No one who cares about this country was stupid enough to vote for Hillary in the primaries.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I just don’t know enough about McCain right now to make a decision. I am now a disaffected Democrat. I’m sure on that one.

    So I’ll be paying attention. I hope they do the town hall talk format McCain is asking Obama to do around the country.

    I got so much out of Hillary’s townhall meetings. That’s a great way to size up the candidate and hear the policies. It was also a great way to see what a flip-flopper Obama really is. Nothing he says means anything since he changes his position the next week! LOL*

  • Pink Panther

    Peter,
    Nice try at pretending to be a McCain supporter. You sound too much like a paid/unpaid Obama blogger. Give it a rest. The Republicans have your number and so do Hillary supporters who are not going to support Obama.

  • nickoury

    Good, then do the right thing and don’t sleep.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    First, I would like to apologize to you on behalf of all true Americans that the legal case against this man was bungled and he was never convicted for his attempts to murder you and your family. It is a disgrace that it happened.

    Second, let me ask the Obama supporters that have appeared on this web site and blasted Hillary Clinton for her association with Mark Penn to explain to you (and the rest of us) how that association is worse than Mr. Obama’s connection to would-be murderers Ayers & Dohrn, not to mention the radical racists Wright, and Pfelger (who both seem to advocate the same type of indiscriminate violence IMHO), and corrupt thugs like Tony Rezko, Aiham Alsammarae, and Rashid Khalidi.

    I am quite confident that all I will get by way of response is derogatory comments, vague chants, and mindless attempts to change the subject by attacking me, you, or Senator Clinton. Alas, I have come to know them well, yet they appear to understand nothing about me.

  • Ann

    It is completely unreasonable for Democrats to talk about BO winning the nomination when he lost the popular vote and would lose the pledged delegate count if voters weren’t halved or stolen from other candidates. It is further unreal that Democrats would consider nominating a candidate who lost MA, NY, NJ, CA, FL, MI, OH, PA, WV, NH, NV, TX, NM, and IN for example. Are they kidding us?

    HRC would walk into the White House without breaking a sweat…BO isn’t likely to make it all and he’ll be gasping for air at the end. I’m voting for McCain because BO doesn’t represent Democratic values and the Democratic Party has sold their soul for the love of money. If HRC can’t reclaim and remake the Party then I may be voting Repub in the future more often then not. (Oh, no, here comes the long rants about how I’m not really a Dem, go home, we hope you die, we don’t need your sorry white (assuming you are a nasty white person because all those against BO are racist and white.) I’ve been voting Dem 30 years, but, you’re right if the Neo-Dem Party is the Party of anti-American, anti-Semitic, and racist Democrats…count me out.

    Everyone write to McCain and ask him to adopt HRC’s Universal Health Insurance plan. That would guarantee him victory.

  • Strawberry

    What it will boil down to is Party Loyalty. I keep remembering Reagen who said “Thou shalt not speak evil of another Republican”. THERE is no way people who tend to think in lock step (conservatives) will vote for Obama. The Rev. Wright and Pfleger has scared the hell out of those middle of the road Republicans and made the right wing nut jobs jump for joy. You’re talking about people who have in the past voted against their own interests on the issues of guns, God and religon. They are friggin’ gone. Poof. It’s the independants that Obama has to worry about. But even those were horrified by Wright. 20 years? How many relationships in your life last 20 years? Only the closest..family and close friends. The general public won’t buy the argument about Wright or Rezco for that matter being ‘different people’ all of a sudden. Dear God what a train wreck. If Obama gave half a shit about the democratic party and America, he would step down. He should know there’s not a snowball’s chance in Hades to win once the 527′s really get going. His numbers suck now when he should be flying high! God, he’s a selfish prick.

  • typical irishman

    What the hell? Apparently Obama stayed with Larry Sinclair long enough to consumate any marriage. LOL! NEW LINE.

  • Pink Panther

    Peter,
    Nice try at pretending to be a McCain supporter. You sound too much like a paid/unpaid Obama blogger. Give it a rest. The Republicans have your number and so do Hillary supporters who are not going to support Obama.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    I’d love to see his response!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    If McCain hits that moderate tone, I agree. We know his health care plan is not one. LOL* But then, Obama’s is really bad for the country. Just a bureacratic nightmare and a money-making machine for his med lobbyists that he pretends he doesn’t have. It’s not just not universal, it is a disaster of a plan and should NOT be implemented.

    McCain is safer. He just gives a tax break on med insurance.

  • blobert

    Monica is a lot cuter than Larry Sinclair!

  • max

    The Fabian Socialist has no ideal what Obama’s Bolsheviks handlers have in store for Amerika.

  • B from Bloomington

    Clinton said she would support (not endorse) Obama, and even at that, her statement should be taken with a grain of salt. She was under tremendous pressure from all sides and did what she had to do, doesn’t mean she wanted to. I’m glad she suspended her campaign and didn’t concede… after all, she was the one with the popular vote (and the most delegates if MI and FL hadn’t been disenfranchised). But what could she do when she was basically attacked by her own party. I admire her… she is still fighting, even though they knocked her down and have their foot on her throat. I will hold onto hope. Hope that bo gets too busy to practice his sermons and screws up on a day when the kids are low on kool-aid. Hope that Ickes can give ‘um hell at the Credentials Committee. Hope for a miracle. And brace for the fact that I might have to hold my nose at the polls, but will never vote for bo.

  • Pink Panther

    And Obama voted on several occasions to fund it.

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    Hillary as an Indy means BO as Prez, which is too awful for moi. McCain has paid his dues and been vetted.

  • beebop

    They must think that rubbing salt in wounds is a healing agent … I guess they don’t believe that he’s a divider not a uniter. They certainl don’t see that they aren’t helping his cause do they? Flippin’ immature 15 year olds. Can’t wait until they get their damn drivers licenses, you?

  • lourdes

    I think what is lacking here is an in depth analysis of what is going on in the Hussain camp.

    What happened to Hillary is not a “personal” attack. What we are witnessing is a REVOLUTION WITHIN THE “DEMOCRATIC PARTY”. A BAD REVOLUTION, I MUST ADD, A UNDEMOCRATIC REVOLUTION.

    THE PROOF: YOU ALL HAVE BEING TALKING ABOUT IT: HUSSAIN’S ALLIANCE WITH THE RADICAL LEFT. The Ayers, the NOI, the black separatists. So there you have it: the radical left is in control of the “worker’s party” now. Hillary represents the center-left, no radicalism there. Ergo, they want her out.

    Hillary has no power within the party, she’s clinging to a very thin rope. And we, her followers must make some choices:

    1. Do we let the radical left get control of the U.S.A via Hussain, or do we fight them off?

    2. Do we make Hillary herself the object of our actions, trying to get her to do something impossible at this point, or do we chose to fight against the radical left?

    If you chose to fight against the radical left:

    1. there’s one choice right now: the Mac. I personally would vote for him knowing that he really sucks. But THE MAC IS BETTER THAN THE MARXIST LEFT-NOI-BLACK SEPARATISTS COALITION. The Mac is the only firewall against the radical left. It will be a bitter pill to swallow, but it’s the only medicine. The Mac is bad, politically ignorant, etc. But he is our only tool right now.

    2. Hillary can help us. But we can’t help her anymore: the marxists cooked her. All we can do is help her in her other political goals. But for president…if you want to live in a fantasy world, go to the Hussain camp. There you will in company of other dreamers.

    Those poor souls don’t know what hit them.

  • blobert

    flip-flop flip-flop
    Obama’s campaign is gonna go POP

  • Hope Floats

    Obama is at odds with most of Hillary’s positions. I can’t believe how many times I’ve heard they’re alike on policy issues. Obama attacked Hillary’s healthcare plan as “socialized medicine.” He also tried to paint her as a “warmonger” which made him look like a pushover in terms of national security and a loony leftist. Now he’s trying to backpedal. I will never forget him calling her “Bush Cheney Lite.” Now he has the gall to ask us to ask for party unity!

    I see McCain as a mainstream libertarian and also a centrist. He is a refreshing change from the neocons who dominated the Republican party under Bush. The Republicans are fighting for their political lives, and I think they were smart to nominate McCain. He has worked with Democrats on many key issues, and I respect his judgment. So, Hillary is a career Democrat. I’m not; I can tell the difference between obligation and conviction.

  • lourdes

    PINK PANTHER, PLEASE, DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    Were you referring to McCain or Obama? Same applies to both in my book, but suffering through 4 years of McCain will not elect any Republican in 2012, and in fact may do the opposite.

    I still support Senator Clinton, but I love America too much to do anything that would risk Barack Obama being elected POTUS. If Clinton doesn’t re-emerge, it’s McCain all the way. Obama is a dangerous man controlled by evil forces.

  • alee21 of Michigan

    Don’t hold Hillary’s endorsement of Obama against her. She is between a rock and a hard place, needing Party support in the future and keeping her options open. She was pressured and examined microscopically – the sooner media attention is turned elsewhere, the sooner she can recuperate and plan for the next step. I surely hope she will not take the VP slot if offered – one thing to be thankful for in that regard is the fact that Obama is arrogant and thin-skinned and MO positively hates Hillary, so probably won’t materialize in any event.

    I won’t vote for Obami no matter who else is on the ticket. Whether I will vote for McCain will depend on what happens between now and Nov.

  • Nomoredem

    This article shows that Christie Whitmam really kmows what is going on. Remember at one time she was mentioned as a possible VP candidate, but those running the party though she wan’t republicam enough.

  • typical irishman

    I know enough about Obama to help defeat him if that is possible. These radicals have a way of infecting governments long before their take over.

  • Pink Panther
  • JIMMY

    SO JUST THAT HILLARY HAS LOST. HERE SUPPORTERS ARE GOING TO WHORE THEMSELF TO THE REPUBLICANS

  • Hope Floats

    I spoke to a friend of mine about Obama’s healthcare plan. (She works as a social worker for the state processing disability claims.) She said, “I like his plan, because it doesn’t push the burden of expenses onto the provider.” LMAO. I said, “You still think you’re gonna marry a doctor?”

  • roseeriter

    That would be a hoot if McCain did universal health care- and what a kick in the teeth to both parties. That would be awesome. I’m not a loyalist so I’m still open, but NOBAMA.

  • Debalee

    I’m going to write in Hillary’s name on my General Election ballot in November. I wish that all her supporters would do the same. It will send a message to the DNC. It is in the thrall of a very scary bunch. I think that Obama is the nexus of domestic and foreign terrorists. I don’t believe for one second that his huge amount of money is from the little people sending in 5 and 10 dollars each month. I think that money from overseas as well as some domestic deep pockets is being laundered and bundled and portrayed as being from the little people. His campaign is so into disinformation. Very Orwellian. McCain is the lesser of two evils. This is all about saving our country from dishonest people. The question now is who is more dishonest? Obama or McCain?

  • Pink Panther

    They are not whoring themselves; they love their country more then the Democratic Party.

  • Marie

    As long as we have a Democratic Congress, we can control agenda and we CAN have McCain for 4 years.
    Voting McCain is the only way to stop Obama.

  • so saddened

    agree, alibe. no guilt whatsoever.

    my vote for mccain isn’t because of hillary. it’s because of obama. it’s also because of the corrupt “leadership” of our party. obama must lose to get our party back. and voting for mccain is the only way to do it.

    i see posters saying they don’t want obama, but they don’t want mccain either, so they’ll vote — fill in the blank. problem is, unless the dems come to their senses in august, the ONLY choice is obama or mccain. i choose mccain over obama.

    re hillary and a possible future run – don’t think our votes for mccain will affect that. sadly, we’ve seen a beautiful 60-year-old woman be called a hag. when she’s 64 or 68, it will be even worse. only a man can run with wrinkles. jmho.

    anyway, i think any option other than voting mccain is just playing into the hands of brazile, dean, and obama. that’s what they want us to do. they figure they can beat mccain, as long as we don’t vote for him.

    we can do it. yes we can.

  • Nobama

    A vote for the Green party is like taking Brazile’s advice and staying home. Please don’t do that. We have two chances to defeat Obama:

    1. Push the delegates to support Hillary as our only chance to win in November.

    2. Failing that, if Obama’s does gain the nomination, the only way to defeat him on Nov 4 is to vote for McCain. Sorry but it’s the only way.

    Obama represents a serious threat to the Democratic party as we used to know it and to the country. We cannot let him ever get near the WH. He needs to be so politically damaged that he will no longer be a threat in 2012.

    Obama is taking over the party and restructuring the DNC. His idea of change is to have himself be the party and replace the DNC with MyObama. Right now, try to donate to the DNC online and there’s a picture of Obama. I don’t remember ever seeing anything like that in past campaigns. This is his idea of change. Subsume what you can and destroy the rest.

    Obama would replace lobbyists with extortionists and bagmen, using Tony Rezko and Nadhmi Auchi as models. He’d replace the Executive Branch with with a Chicago/Daley-style machine. He’s usurp the power of the presidency to an extent that would go far beyond anything we’ve seen from Bush. With a compliant media and a larger Democratic majority in Congress, Obama would enormous power and authority over this country never before seen in this nation’s history. We must not and cannot let that happen.

    We have two choices so let’s start with the first one. Let’s do all we can to help Hillary and defeat Obama before the delegates cast their ballots in Denver. Raise bloody hell with the DNC and the media. Make sure Obama’s negatives get the attention they deserve. Be sure to point out all of Hillary’s strengths with the voters. Winning the popular vote by 300,000 votes is impressive and can never be dismissed. That’s way more votes than Gore won by in 2000. If Bush’s election was seen as illegitimate in 2000, Obama’s nomination sure as hell is illegitimate now.

  • Strawberry

    It’s all about Mccain from here on out…and Rev. Wright and Pfleger and Rezco and Ayers. I want to see the reaction from that 79 year old lady when she sees Rev. Wright 24/7. Or Pfleger or the rest of the shite in Barky’s closet. These people take the flag, and religon seriously. They will not vote for an American hating racist. No how, no way.

  • Five Thirty

    Makes me wonder if they didn’t replace their lost account with cash from Obama….

    I think we have a combination of forces but certainly we are witnessing a positioning for a power grab. Reference Move On’s endorsement of a Democratic candidate *during* the primary.

    I certainly would not give any $$ to the DNC, Act Blue, Move On, etc.

  • mahaska

    And at least it was a grown woman. He was set up imho. What woman keeps a dirty dress around for so long?

  • mahaska

    If I’m gonna sell my soul, it has to for more than just having some candy-ass thief in the WH.

  • Hope Floats

    Down with the Bolsheviks. McCain 08

  • typical irishman

    Hell YEAH. Vote for the man who fought the communists, NOT the sorry sucker who befriended them. VOTE McCAIN.

  • lourdes

    You can count with the mainstream media to poop all over the Mac. They are going to do to him what they did to Hillary. With him will be ageism.

    The Mac knows that. And mac gets angry too easily. The pundits are going to get him all discombobulated in front of TV and present him as unfit to be POTUS.

    To me, the Mac IS unfit to be POTUS. I will vote for him simply because is the only way to stop the marxist left in the new “worker’s party”, the new “proletarian party”, the new Stalinist-soviet party.

    VOTE FOR THE MAC, BUT DO IT KNOWING WHY. DON’T TRY TO GIVE HIM QUALITIES OF POLITICAL PROGRESSIVE IDEAS HE DOESN’T HAVE.

    THE MAC IS OUR TOOL TO DEFEAT HUSSAIN AND THE MARXISTS. PERIOD.

  • http://test mars mars

    Hi there!

    McCain

  • Strawberry

    Wow, what a douche. Hillary stays in the fight and holds her family together and you villify her for it. Nicely done. By the way, divorce is highest in redstates and lower in the more liberal educated ones. So what does that make you?

  • typical irishman

    What are you doing for Obama? LOL!

  • Hope Floats

    Hell, Obama rode the wave like a Hawaiian pro surfer. He never spoke out against Wright’s crazier sermons, and he never took the high road in this campaign. He’s a political opportunist and a weak leader.

  • GoHillary

    Reverse psychology, obamatroll? Hmmm…

  • mahaska

    You’re so funny

  • alee21 of Michigan

    While I am not sure what is the right course of action for Hillary during the Monica debacle, I gave her the benefit of the doubt. It was a personal decision that obviously offends the sensibilities of some women. Since you and I are not Hillary Clinton, it is presumptuous of us to judge her by projecting our own life experiences. Hillary has stood by her decision and has not disowned Bill Clinton – I see that as strength of character. I would have more respect for Obama, if he had told the truth about his involvement with Wright up front and not tried to do damage control by disowning his pastor 20 years too late.

  • typical irishman

    Voting for Ross Perot explains why you are a small business owner:)

  • Amalia

    aha, that’s what happened to them. Buzzflash is
    such an Obama shill.

    unfortunately, Buzzflash is indicative of what
    goes on in Chicago in the Barack bubble.
    between the Sun Times openly asking Hillary
    to get out, columnist Mary Mitchell (who cannot
    receive enough email NoQuarter readers…check
    her out, a complete racist) raving on about
    everything, Eric Zorn at the Chicago Tribune
    running Obama love fest, and
    http://www.thecapitolfaxblog.com where the helm
    of that blog(who also writes a ST column)
    is a beyond Obama partisan.

    it stinks to live in Illinois. that’s why it was fun
    to watch Hillary beat him in a state that is in
    the Chicago media market!

  • Dem_base

    There cannot be a massive write in vote because states rules for write-in votes vary.

    - Some states do not allow write-ins at all.

    - Other states count a write in vote for a Dem to the Dem listed on the ballot. Meaning you just wrote in Hillary and that voted is given to Obama.

    If you consider McCain the lesser of two evils then vote for him.

  • Athena

    Agree. There is a group blocking the moderates in the Democratic Party. The Clintons’ and their supporters are being pushed out by the Marxist. The DNP has to be brought to the center again or else the Republicans will be in permanent control. If the DNP loses this election but the loss brings the party back to the center, so be it. McCain is willing to work across party lines.

  • typical irishman

    Patriotism trumps party loyaly. The PATRIOTS will vote against the Howard Dean / Barrack Obama / Democratic Socialist Party, by voting for McCain.

  • ihateobama

    ITS A LONG TIME UNTIL AUGUST IN POLITICS. when the press finally stops bashing hillary, it will turn on obama and a fresh meat mentality will take over. and obama will always say really stupid things and get all the scrutiny he richly deserves. meanwhile we can still plot and trash that pig. if he survives until the convention and is really the nominee, he will still be in the minds of millions, illegitament, a bastard ! the closer it gets to election time, the polls will reflect what we true believers feel right now, no obama ever…..when that time comes, ensure he never gets to our whitehouse by voting for mccain in protest, he’s not that bad. at least mccain has treated hillary with respect, a word that obama never learned while picking his cocaine nose and straching his shitty ass.

  • mahaska

    Shaow me a man who turns down a bj and I’ll show you he’s been dead a week.

  • Five Thirty

    “you disgruntled Hillary supporters are a minority who are upset over a contest that lasted a mere 5 months. Just remeber guys John McCain voted 95% of the time with George Bush in 2007 and ..”

    Well – let Sen. Obama start running a more transparent shop – where are his records from his State Legislature days? He lost them?

  • mahaska

    egad, I switched from a laptop to a desktop and I can’t seem to control these giant keys. Shaow s/b show

  • typical irishman

    “bitch” sort of makes your pitch a no sell.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    That is exactly the reason the divorce rate is sky-high in this country. Our youth do not even consider the sanctity of marriage vows, they just jump right to the “dump ‘em” philosophy. You have absolutely no knowledge of what goes on inside the Clintons’ marriage, so please don’t judge and pontificate. And on a lighter note, don’t you think the tougher punishment for Bill was to stay in a relationship with someone he knew he had wronged? I often wonder if Hillary was the reason for his acknowledgment that he did it for the worst possible reason – because he could.

    In any case, you make a rather obnoxious case that we should punish Hillary because of Bill’s sins. Then you wonder why we call you sexist.

  • lourdes

    QUESTION FOR ALL OF YOU POLITICAL GENIUSES:

    WHO HAS MORE POWER WITHIN HUSSAIN’S “COALITION OF THE WILLING TO DESTROY AMERICA”: THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA CONGLOMERATE AND THE BIG MONEY CORPORATIONS SUPPORTING HIM AND ENACTING HIS PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN, OR THE MARXIST-NOI-BLACK SEPARATIST ORGANIZING A COUP D’ETAT TO THE USA?

    IF HUSSAIN WINS, THAT’S A BIG “IF”, THE RIGHT WING PORTION OF THE “COALITION” WILL NOT WANT TO SHARE POWER WITH THE LEFT PORTION.

    THAT’S WHEN ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE IN AMERICA.

    GET READY FOR MARXISTS AND BLACKS SETTING THIS COUNTRY IN FIRE WHEN THEY ARE KICKED OUT OF THE “COALITION”.

  • Cindy

    I’m in Texas, and many of Mexican-American Dems at the State Party Convention yesterday were NOT happy. A few actually said they would consider McCain! They absolutely love Bill and Hillary, and are livid at the DNC.

  • typical irishman

    And you would fit right in with the Rev Wright church crowd with that attitude of women being second class citizens.

  • helen

    You do not have the right to judge anyone else’s marriage.
    People stay together for many reasons including the vow of for better or worse.
    Improve your own life before you judge someone else.
    Marriage is a sacrament and is not to be put assunder lightly.

  • lourdes

    DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.

  • Hope Floats

    Get San Fran Lefty the Botox Queen out if you can. I started hating her after she lined up with Bush and company on opposing the Armenian Genocide Resolution. These people have no principles whatsoever. Both parties need an enema, and I’m glad some Dems are on board. There were, i think, legit republicans who thought they were doing the same by supporting Obama until the real dirt started coming out on him.

  • typical irishman

    Cool it Lourdes.

  • dnesser

    Your wrong on the issues. These are accomplished in the House and Senate, not by the President. I’m going with a split ticket and all signs seem to forecast a Democratic Veto proof Congress.

    As far as blaming Hillary, it depends on the reasons one is not going with Obama. How can the Party blame the “Outrageous Sexism” used by the Liberal Media and Obama Supporters on Hillary? If I fall in line as Donna Brazile says I have to, I’m saying It’s O’kay for them to use sexism the next time a female runs for President and I’m saying New Dems are more important than the “Core” Dems. Remember the “Iron my Shirt” comments, reverse it to “Obama, Shine my shoes”. What do you think the Response would have been in the Media, Dem Leaders, Obama Camp and I’m sure Hillary would’ve apologized.

    I don’t think Sexism is going to be the main reason he loses in the fall. I think he’s going to lose because (true or false) voters are going to see him as Anti-American.

  • Hope Floats

    Same here. I never condemned Hillary for staying with Bill, but if she pushes Obama down our throats to save her political hide, I would lose respect for her. If john McCain earns America’s respect, what’s the big deal if he’s reelected. That’s how it goes.

  • 30yrdem

    Well I am not phased at all by this or the comments here…I will be voting McCain in November…The democratic party has changed to much for me to want to be a part of it any longer…They used to be for the little guy but not anymore…and the way Obama won was just dirty….no thanks…I will go with my third choice…McCain…Hillary is great and I truly wish she would have won but I had been hoping Joe B. would run and he did, but not for long, we can thank the media for making stars out of Clinton and Obama thus shutting down most all of the other campaigns before they even got started. So you see Joe B was my first choice, Hillary came in second and now I am left with my third choice McCain, Yes I find I can’t vote for Chicago style politics to take over the White House….also Rev. Wright just disgust me to no end and Pfleger…what a bunch they are..no thank you dem party.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Right now, try to donate to the DNC online and there’s a picture of Obama.

    It won’t stop there. Big statues in red square will be next. Get used to seeing Chavez in the White House.

  • Five Thirty

    If you want to do something now, when the DNC telemarketers call asking for contributions, tell them simply that the cheque is in the mail.

    In American English it is spelled “check”.

    Simply do not vote for Mr. Obama, or just vote for the Green Party candidate.

    I would note vote for the Green Party candidate. IMO, that Party is devious & power-hungry.

  • typical irishman

    30yrdem
    HOWDY! I wondered what happened to you. I left that other place a couple days after you (mariner).

  • karen for Clinton

    Everybody should tell Time magazine what they think of their new obamapologist piece saying Ayers is a good guy now and obama’s rivals shouldn’t scold him for it… ugh.

  • Athena

    Agree.

  • Peter

    I am not selling out this nation to anybody and most people I speak with sure as hell are not selling out this nation. A vote for Obama is a vote for the incompetent Democrat party that failed us under Carter, Johnson and Clinton. I don’t want a President who can’t keep taxes low and keep his stuff in his pants while on the job. A vote for that liberal Muslim socialist is a vote for this incompetance that we just don’t need. I voted against Obama and Clinton when I voted and I hope I have the opportunity to do the same in November.

    Leave it to the Democrat party to screw themselves, they put a black crack smoking Muslim and a lesbian on the same ticket. Obama is out smoking crack and Hillary is on her knees between the legs of that Muslim assistant of hers. No to both of these far left liberals and their ideaologies.

  • Hope Floats

    You say you want a revolution
    Well, you know
    We all want to change the world
    You tell me that it’s evolution
    Well, you know
    We all want to change the world
    But when you talk about destruction
    Don’t you know that you can count me out
    Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
    all right, all right

    You say you got a real solution
    Well, you know
    We’d all love to see the plan

    You ask me for a contribution
    Well, you know
    We’re doing what we can
    But when you want money
    for people with minds that hate
    All I can tell is brother you have to wait

    Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
    all right, all right
    Ah

    ah, ah, ah, ah, ah…

    You say you’ll change the constitution
    Well, you know
    We all want to change your head
    You tell me it’s the institution
    Well, you know
    You better free you mind instead
    But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
    You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow
    Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right

    all right, all right
    all right, all right, all right
    all right, all right, all right

  • ulahane

    Gore is not a “serial liar” and Obama is not a Muslim.

  • annie

    Well said!

  • blobert

    Bet you don’t think much of McCain either.
    Just a hunch.

  • Margie

    Please remember, the democrats said vote us in and changes will be made….yes,they were; we are almost up to $5.00 per gallon with a democratic congress….as a Hillary supporter; i think we need to get rid of the big wigs in congress and Senate and show them they work for the people; not against the people and their votes………..the democrats have not done anything about the fuel and no i am not a republican; just against who is running the people’s democrat party

  • Tommy

    Comment by NY still loves Hillary: Ayers and wife are not would be murders,they are murders. They killed several police officers. Regardless if they escaped the justice system ,the fact they masterminded the bombings remain the issue. In 2007 both said they did not do enough,and would do more given the opportunity.
    No,I’m not about to bash you or anyone ,but pointing the facts out is most important.

    The point is,is Mr Obama embraces people that have murdered and would again.

    Had Mr Obama not developed answering the question with he was 8 yrs old at the time the bombings took place America might be forgiving,however, Mr obama knows the history of Ayers and knows he will bomb again given the opportunity. Obama ,he is fully aware of all the issues Ayers brings, so to associate with terrorist is simply not rational.
    Ayers didn’t care then and doesn’t care now that Judge John Murtaugh’s children and wife was in that house…Not only are they murders ,they would have killed the children,too.

    Is Obama not rational or stupid or insane to embrace America Terrorist? Joe Coffee and Bo Dietl have been interviewed by Fox News recently and both told America how dangerous Ayers is. Both Joe Coffee and Bo Dietl are former NY Detectives..

    Obama has not been remorseful for any remark he has made, or for embracing thugs ….Rezko for instance was convicted and all Obama would say is Rezko wasn’t the person he knew.
    One would have to wonder who did Obama know if Rezko wasn’t the same person Obama knew before Rezko was nailed…Obama just does not need to be President of the United States…Obama is like all thugs that have to be cornered before admitting wrong,but Obama has yet to be remorseful…

    Not that I will vote for him but he should be remorseful and admit he embraces the people and the life the thugs live. Denouncing message is not denouncing the messenger…

  • karen for Clinton

    Mary Mitchell was one of the clinchers for me to never ever trust this man on any account.

    She had that “nod, nod wink, wink” column back when he rejected and renounced… Farrakhan, and she said right out. “WE know you had to say that and you do not mean it obama my lord and savior.” I wanted to puke and scream with RAGE that he was so duplicitous and nobody was paying any attention to the obvious right in front of their eyes. It was so clearly a fix in sooooo many ways.

    also on the topic of this thread by patrick, here is one part of the origins of obama the candidate from hell.

    http://www.opednews.com/articles/Rezko–Operation-Board-Gam-by-PNevai-080606-749.html

  • rwc

    And McCain doesn’t associate with ex-terrorists, racist preachers, slum lords or believes in letting foreign nations dictate domestic policy.

    No, I’ll take McCain any day over a bastard whose never done anything for anyon except run his mouth like a con-man.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    At this point, if those of us at No Quarter were to vote for Obama we wouldn’t be whores. Whores get paid for what they do. They only appropriate term here is rape. And just like the physical kind, you Obama bastards are now blaming the victims. And just like they physical kind, the emotional scars will never heal and things will never, ever be the same. And even if some of us are able to forgive, none of us will ever forget.

    Let me guess “Jimmy”. Do you go to rape trials in Gaza and torment the victims?

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Oh dear….that was funny in a terrible way.

    *haha

  • chad

    To all hillarys supporters all i can say is we the republicans need your help!!!Join our party and help change it and vote for Mccain!! I have been far to the right for a long time, but willing to move a little closer to the center for real change! The best thing you can do is go to http://www.johnmccain.com and donate and then recruit 5 of your friends and family!!! dont let obama destroy our country!!!

  • JB

    Folks, believe me, I speak from experience — Obama must be defeated at all costs. You do not want the radical leftist nightmare descending on this great country.

    Forget health care, or foreign policy for a moment — in order to even debate your favorite issue, you need freedom of speech. You need those treasured American values and customs.

    The Oborg have raised the spectre of using the race card as a shield from criticism. His Obama youth will not hesitate to label all dissenters as racists. It will be a lynch mob mentality, and the media will fall in line. It is going to get super-scary.

    We have seen signs of it during the campaign. Do not make the mistake thinking it would get better once he’s elected. It would only get worse.

    Don’t vote for McCain simply because you hate Obama. Vote for McCain to bid goodbye the 20th century — once and for all.

  • Matt

    huffington is friends with soros
    follow the money
    follow the soros

  • JB

    Peter is an Obama troll doing their version of Operation Chaos.

  • 30yrdem

    I don’t know if I recognize the name..are you coming from t’s place?

  • ken

    Exactly, once Obama loses, the whole elite crowd that pushed him up will lose their credibilty and positions as well. Despite their seeming (over)confidence, it’s a huge gamble and that gamble MUST NOT PAY OFF. Hillary have her loyal supporters who will then have the opportunity to take back the party.

  • beverly leslie

    I’m sorry, I am not hiding my animosity toward the Democratic Party. Ridiculous! Now we are supposed to tiptoe around them and act as if all is ok in La La land. Absoulutely crazy! If the Republicans benifit becuase of the total disrespect of the Democratic Party so be it. They have made their bed. This election is not about Republicans or Democrats anymore. It is about our country, and our voices. We are having our voices taken away right now. We have a right to civil disobedience.

    We have become too complacent, we no longer fight for what is right. And look at what is happening around us. The democrats no longer stand for us. They proved that this election cycle. Get out of your comfortable shells and look around, see what is happening. Explore, we have other options, not just the one the DNC has installed.

    I’ll tell you right now, if we women let this happen, if we let the DNC get away with this, it sets a precedent and has long term ramifications. Women will not have any power, we will have proved we will be walked on, abused and still surrender. Please obtain a backbone!!!!

    You are doing exactly what the DNC has planned on you to do, FALL IN LINE!! I for one will not. Ridiculous!!!

  • Northwest rain

    Obama is NOT an option.

    The democrat party is DEAD.

    I’m convinced that Pelosi, Howie Deanie, Donna is a racist Brazile want to lose.

    Obama can do a HELL of a lot of damage in four years. He is an egomaniac — he is assuming that he has already won and he is talking about his second term.

    But it is obvious that Obama does not have the vote — and after the GOP machine — this will be the largest defeat in history — a GOOD defeat of the INADEQUATE BLACK MALE — with some of the most dangerous advisers and associates EVER in the history of US politics.

    This diary/rant is from a Troll — trying to make an argument to fall in line and obey the DNC.

    The DNC must be purged — Pelosi must be removed, Reid must be removed and Howie Deanie must be forced OUT. I don’t care where Howie Deanie goes — as long as he is GONE!

    Getting rid of these useless deadwood maggots might help — but I doubt it. The democrat party is just dead — it has abandoned what used to be the core democratic voters.

    I won’t be crying at the funeral of the democrat party.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    I stand corrected, and even more disgusted (if that is even possible). I have no argument at all with your argument, and agree with you 100%. In fact, I would go even farther to suggest that Mr. Obama himself is guilty of felonious acts that have likely killed more in Chicago’s slums. He is a dangerous man who associates with absolutely no one of good character as far as I can see. In all probability, Wright and Pfleger are the least of our worries.

  • 30yrdem

    I just got my new voter registration card in the mail this weekend…on it…Political Affiliation..REP..

  • 30yrdem

    just like obama’s supporters..insult us than ask for our vote….real smooth…

  • NY still loves Hillary

    This was meant to be a response to Tommy’s post.

  • 30yrdem

    AMEN!

  • Mel

    this is the new tactic of Axelrod, to have people go out pretending to be Republicans and badmouth those Democrats against Bambi, don’t fall for it, Axelrod thinks people are stupid and he is the brains of politic conning, not anymore! His con days are up!

  • beverly leslie

    He’s an oborg trying to be a Republican. Don’t fall for it.

  • 30yrdem

    Well who is here besides the trolls?

  • lourdes

    in past comments i posted here, i said something about Blacks in the “coalition to destroy America” eventually will feel back-stabbed by Hussain. Well, it’s happening already.

    The following article is from a website that only a few months ago said:
    “Obama is so popular that blacks will go to the bathroom while he’s insight and take a deep breath”.

    I guess the stench coming from Hussain’s bathroom was too much for them to bear. They are finally seeing the light. There’s hope the Hussain will not be POTUS. See how they are awakening!
    Enjoy!!

    http://brothers.yourblackworld.com/2008/02/tavis-smileys-haterology-on-barack.html

    “…Obama is being forced to slowly, but surely rip away everything that has helped him identify with being a black man in America. First he has to put a muzzle on his beautiful, intelligent wife, apologizing for the fact that she “misspeaks” in public. Next, he is distancing himself from Louis Farrakhan, a man with whom he had little prior association. Shortly thereafter, he goes into hiding like a broke baby’s daddy on the date of the 40th anniversary of Martin Luther King’s Assassination, all because he didn’t want to appear “too black” for the American public.

    Now we have Jeremiah Wright. After 20 years with the same pastor, Kunta Obama suddenly realizes that he made a mistake. It wasn’t sermon number 14, 122 or 1,107 that led him to that conclusion. It was Hillary Clinton and Sean Hannity who helped him see the light. They helped Barack Obama finally realize what should have been obvious from the very beginning: His radical wife needed to be put in her place, Martin Luther King is an embarrassment and his pastor can’t possibly be a true American. Thank God for Sean Hannity.

    By the time Obama is done with this election, he will have fully apologized for being a strong black man in America. At that point, the transformation will be complete and Kunta will have no feet. I am only waiting for Hillary Clinton to force him to denounce Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey and Harriet Tubman. After all, they were radical too.

    This election surely makes Barack wish that all of his friends were white, perhaps even his wife. Those black people are just too much damn trouble. I might start getting rid of my black friends right now.”

    ++++++++++

    The resentment is growing. I have checked various AA websites. HUSSEIN JUST CAN’T HIDE HE WANTS TO BE WITH THE WEALTHY WHITE FOLKS. JUST WITH THEM, FUCK THE REST.

    THE WORLD WILL SOON WAKE UP AND SEE THE LITTLE EMPEROR-DICTATOR-ASPIRER IS NAKED AND SMELLY.

  • beverly leslie

    I’m here. I remember you from T’s site. I was “banned” for my disparaging remarks about T.Kennedy. Don’t wish to go back anyway.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    He is an Obama supporter. Wants to scare you into voting for Bambi. You need to turn on your TrollDar :)

  • typical irishman

    Yeah dem . She had a session with all her commenters about how they should all squeal on each other. There was quite a few who left over that. Good gosh it sounded like the Obama leadership.

  • chezmadame

    You’re aptly named Stooge. Go home now. You can’t have our votes. BEG, STOOGE, BEG!!! Nope, still can’t have them.

  • StatBabe

    There is an article in the New York Times which claims that Obama plans to wage a “50-state strategy”. Several posters on the HP celebrated this and were already proclaiming that Obama would actually win in Republican strongholds because of his unbelievable organization. The more comments I read, the more I wondered if these people were really that delusional.

    While I actually AGREED with Howard Dean 3+ years ago when he first announced that the Democratic Party would begin to challenge Republicans in all 50 states, I’ve never been stupid enough to believe that Democrats would be able to do much more than force Republicans to spend money in states like Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Kansas, and most Southern states–at least, not for a few years. Nevertheless, members of the Obama cult actually seem to believe that Obama will WIN in these ruby red states!

    What is really amazing about this so-called “50-state strategy” is that the fools that are promoting this are the SAME idiots that have brought us Barack Obama! If these imbeciles had actually viewed the primaries/caucuses like a warm-up for the general election, then they would realize that Obama is NOT in a good place to challenge the Republicans ANYWHERE! After all, based on the electoral map, Obama would have won a grand total of 224 electoral votes to Hillary Clinton’s 314 electoral votes. In short, Obama better figure out a way to win over Hillary voters FIRST before wasting resources on states like Idaho, Wyoming, Kansas, and most of the South.

    When Obama goes down in November, which I fully expect, he better be prepared to take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for the loss (although I am NOT holding my breath). If “Mr. Hope” had actually cared about this country (and not merely his boundless ego) and the potential damage that another term of a Republican president might inflict, he would have withdrawn from the race when those videos of his spiritual mentor came to light!

    At this point, I just wished that the MO video would surface soon. At least, if it surfaced before the convention, there might still be time to dump “Mr. Hopey Changey” for a candidate who can actually WIN! Nevertheless, I am NOT holding my breath!

  • street_parade

    I honestly do not believe and have never believed that ‘the stars were aligned for the Democrats’. I think that this is a serious misreading of the mood of the electorate and Democrats running for every office believe it at their peril.

    The mood of the electorate is foul and growing nastier by the moment…but it is a “pox on both their houses”, not a “let’s throw the Republican bums out”. If it were the Dem congress would have more than an 18% approval rating. The voters seem to hate everybody…its only a matter of who they hate more at this point. I think that decision will be reached by voters on a case by case basis.

  • typical irishman

    I left on account of –T did not allow any dissent against Teddy. She said all her commenters should police and report any dissent. I told her I did not care to be there or anywhere else where we would police each other like the Brown Shirts.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I am guessing he think he has the money to do this.

    I doubt it.

  • chezmadame

    Can DT be….Dan Tynan, the author of this magnificant piece of journalism? Golly Dan, you must be desperate to get someone to pay attention to you. Dan, Larry and Curly. Gosh, you’re so funny.

  • claribel borden

    It was a legitimate question, and it will be interesting to watch the power dynamics at work.

    Why do you have issue with it?

  • chezmadame

    Oh and Dan, you know that Yoda thing where you put the adverb at the end of the sentence? It’a little tired, stooge.In fact, it’s kinda lame. You do know what an adverb is don’t you? I mean, after all, you’re a writer!

  • Dem_base

    I’m here. I left the BitterP site yesterday because they refuse to grow up and face reality.

    The reaction to your comment was what made me leave.

    titan90

  • street_parade

    Latest SUSA has BO behind McCain 41/37 in Michigan. That’s a state that has been Democratic for the last four elections and has 17 EV. BO better not devote too much time and money on fools errands and had better get his ass to work trying to hold onto the states Kerry won and figuring out how to win Ohio. The other big swing state, Florida, is moving out of reach for the Democrats.

  • typical irishman

    I actually thought Howard dean would have been a good president. I said “would have”. that was before he gave that Key Note Speech to the PES (Party of European Socialists) in 2006. He actually traveled to Europe to give that speech to the Socialist Party. Then one year (actually 13 months) later the president of PES was praising Howard Dean for introducing the Socialist Parties–The Progressive Parties to a new form of campaigning. Putting this altogether with Obama’s association with Ayers the communist, among a lot of other things, it is difficult to draw any other conclusion than Obama is now forming an American socialist party with the help of the DNC.

  • Mawm

    I’m voting for McCain to stop Obama.

    It is as simple as that.

    At this point it doesn’t matter what Clinton says. She has her political future to think about. I think Obama would be a worse President than McCain.

    It is as simple as that.

  • street_parade

    It will be interesting to see how the money pans out. Basically, BO is sucking up all of the money that the DNC used to get. If you add RNC + McCain and compare it to DNC + Obama the two parties are raising the same amount of cash. BO’s burn rate is a lot higher than McCain though: 114 to 45. So while BO is spending more than he’s raising McCain is raising 2X as much as he’s spending.

    I’m also curious if some of BO’s big ‘contributors’ will disappear now that they have the Democratic nominee that they wanted all along. If you get my drift ;-)

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    yup….I think that’s exactly what’s happening.

    It’s just a mirage. It’s a shift in money.

    Anyway, McCain is doing OK. He’s got more in the bank than Obama has right now. And he’s, according to his strategy piece, very much lean and mean.

    We already saw in state after state that Obama’s buy-ads and flood campaign didn’t work. He lost.

    He was humiliated in PA. 3 to 1 spending, and she blew him out.

    McCain watched. Plus, Romney outspent him. So it’s real experience.

    Nothing beats real contact with voters. Obama blew off key states because he didn’t want to “look bad” and lose.

    That means, McCain has a leg up in those states. When he revisits them? It’ll be reconnection time.

    He will parlay that into votes, and it won’t be nearly as expensive as Obama.

    I think Obama’s money stuff is about to be defrocked.

    You honestly cannot buy elections beyond a certain point.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    McCain is the one with experience standing up to his Party and putting Country before Party.

    McCain has the track record of working with those in the other party. That is Why McCain was John Kerry’s first choice for VP in 2004.

    John Kerry knew in 2004 that McCain could unite Democrats and Republicans.

    McCain in 2008.

  • street_parade

    Of course, Hillary Clinton and Sean Hannity made him do all those things. What is it with Barack, has he no free will at all?

  • JavaCity

    Well, Obama can’t, anyway.

    Of course, Obama’s message was garbled, and his lack of truth and experience were visible in his ads, fliers, and sound bites.

    Savage Politics has a series of really funny gaffes from Obama on their top story today.

    Stop at the Atlah ones, those aren’t worth a moment of anyone’s time.

  • latent energy

    This McCain and Obama suck. I can’t stand either of them.

    I don’t want my tax money being funded for the war on terror or some Islamic suicide terrorists.

    I have no option but to emigrate to either Australia New Zealand.

  • street_parade

    And he said in 2004 that ‘his position on Iraq was not much different than George Bush at that point’.

  • JavaCity

    To simply walk away from what happened to Hillary Clinton, with the blessing and assistance of the Democratic Party, is to tell all of them that it is okay, and we accept our obligation to just fall back in line behind them.

    People I respected are doing just that, and I’m completely baffled by it. We need to find our collective spine and stand firm against what happened here.

    Then, I also am infuriated by the Clinton supporters who continue to financially support the newspapers, magazines, networks and programs that allow their journalists, pundits and moderators to behave like ignorant bigots.

    Worse, these so called supporters provide links to the rest of us so these media web sites get more hits than they would have, and can charge greater $’s for ad space.

    I question their loyalty to a candidate when they so eagerly seek out the worst they can find on that candidate and share. What’s the point? You can’t change those people by spreading the garbage they report, you’re just increasing their audience.

    The only thing that works is to STOP WATCHING, STOP BUYING, and hit ‘em where it hurts…in the wallet!! You can’t criticize Obama for staying in his church when you are unable to walk away from the traffic accident that is our MSM and MCM.

  • Patrick Walker

    I have to disagree with your point about Obama.

    As a talking point, the Obama camp could easily bash Hillary for her supporters being “turncoats” and moving over into Republican territory. They chose to express their racist tendencies in voting for a white man.

    This year, with the Green Party, they cannot go about any throw the racist slur around when the candidate for the Green Party is a black woman.

    I also still haven’t had any reassurances that the Democratic leaderhip hasn’t threatened Hillary of being “Ned Lamont”ed and losing her Senate seat. It wouldn’t surprise me to find they threatened her with that last week.

  • street_parade

    Actually, there are 8% of Repubs who say they will vote for BO and 13% of Democrats who say they will vote for McCain. There are more Dems than Reps so the raw numbers making this switch to McCain are even higher. Independents are split evenly at this juncture.

    The percentage of Dem primary voters who will not vote for BO in Pennsylvania is 20%. PA is an absolute neccesity for BO so this is a very disturbing number.

  • Mr. X

    The DNC is already blaming Hillary for every single one of their problems. It’s not about to change any time soon. Voting for whomever isn’t gonna do one ounce of difference to their incompetence.

    In fact, I’ll go even further. They’ve been blaming people for years since Bill Clinton left the White House. This is exactly how Dems lose. You don’t win when people are against something. They win when they are FOR something. Most of Hillary’s supporters stand FOR something. Obama’s supporters only stand against anyone that doesn’t vote for Obama.

  • done4

    LOL – noticed that right away!

  • Dave II

    To all Hillary supporters and disenchanted Democrats:

    Your candidate ran a GREAT campaign! She was relentless and completely forthcoming about her passion and her beliefs, and I for one…(as a Republican who was originally a Hillary basher and detractor), was entirely suprised and awed by what I heard and saw. Convinced? Well…no, but certainly no longer “AFRAID”…

    I now believe that if ANY female becomes President in the (not too distant) future…Hillary will be the one!

    This election will obviously NOT be the one, though.

    Here’s her (and your) BEST scenario:

    Obama loses BIGTIME!! His far-left liberal policies go down like a lead-ballon in the fashion of McGovern, Dukakis, Mondale, and oh…Carter’s reelection…

    Give McCain a chance. If not supporting him outright, AT LEAST vote for him in the privacy of the voting booth. (Other than listing all the reasons to vote FOR McCain here…I’m just stating this simple one.)

    If he wins and runs for reelection…Hillary has her chance now to run against him. SHE WILL BE the odds on favorite by then for the nomination…

    If Obama wins…sure..Hillary can still run against an incumbent President from her own party, but what chance does she have???….NONE, zero, zip, nada!

    Simply put… OBAMA is your enemy here…NOT McCain.

    Obama wins..and Hillary will NEVER become President!

  • street_parade

    Yep, dissing WV and KY because he wasn’t going to win was a big mistake on BO’s part and you can’t unring that bell. According to McCain’s strategy, the exit polls have 1/2 of the Democrats in those 2 states saying they would not vote for Obama, effectively taking them off the map for BO. The Obamabots will whine that they wouldn’t have voted for him anyways…blah, blah, blah. But unlike most of those western red states they love to blather on about WV and KY have actually voted for Democrats in the past.

  • Brendy

    drkate – Wow! That was one powerful letter; hopefully many other voters will write/email similar letters to other govs/senators/etc. who are supporting Obama by pointing out the biases, the hatred and corruption that has shaped his life.

  • claribel borden

    Why does he put the adverb at the end of the sentence?

    It’s the content of his posts that smell the place up, not the use, or placement of an adverb.

    Lots of people with absolutely nothing to say can turn out a grammatically perfect paragraph.

    That’s the problem, now, right, a lot of people have sterling educational backgrounds, but not a thing between their ears. Others have a more traditional background, with lots to say, the occasional misplaced adverb in no way pertinent.

    An inability to recognize or criticize content means you don’t know how to analyze or read, doesn’t it, if all you see are grammatical and punctuation errors?

    BTW, isn’t it a preposition at the end of a sentence that is forbidden, with adverbs, it’s a bit more flexible, isn’t it?

    OT- If you look at the structure of a sentence, sometimes it develops a rhythm, comparable to meter, in poem. I’ve noticed, as I’ve been listening to Schoenberg, the music is ostensibly atonal, then tonal, because 12 tone MUST be tonal, a conundrum. I was wondering, where does harmony evolve next? And then I noticed it was the rhythm, much like speech. I see this as an artist, if you will, and I see it in terms of music and speech being the same form of communication, evolving together in the 12 tone music of Schoenberg (to me, anyway). Everyone expresses their ideas within the nomenclature of their language usage, and I like that, it’s very creative, and it develops it’s own rhythm. Much like the relationships between 12 tone music and harmony, grammer and punctuation is secondary to the idea. And I’d much rather read those with ideas phrased in a non traditional manner, than those familiar with strunk and white, but not a fucking thing to say, ever…)

  • jim aaron

    You have a choice, R or D. A vote for Green or Nader is like voting for Obama, I will vote for McCain, he is a good American.

  • Brendy

    Comment by latent energy | 2008-06-08 16:32:33

    This McCain and Obama suck. I can’t stand either of them.

    I don’t want my tax money being funded for the war on terror or some Islamic suicide terrorists.

    I have no option but to emigrate to either Australia New Zealand.

    **

    If it gets to the point where you might not be able to afford moving and are STUCK in the USA, maybe you better reconsider and vote for the LESS of the two evils. Besides, John McCain has a son in IRAQ right now, and another one in Military school; I’m sure McCain doesn’t want any harm done to his sons and wants this war to end quickly – but in the right, humane way.

    Or, would you rather have Obama – who, right now, has an $845 BILLION dollar GLOBAL POVERTY BILL passing thru congress? One writer estimated that 35 cents to a ONE DOLLAR INCREASE on gas PER GALLON would be added to cover this bill – with most of the money going to Obama’s ‘favored’ country – Africa. Look for Obama to ‘favor’ more of Africa’s needs if he should become president.

    To stop the bill, contact your senators:

    http://www.senate.gov

  • Tommy

    Comment by NY still loves Hillary; The seriouness pointing to Ayers is not something many people ever think about. The Judge Murtaugh family and the bombing of his home.

    Society either hasn’t understood how damn mean and insane Ayers really is,or they never have understood Weather Underground and it’s intent and purpose…. If people think about what he and his wife masterminded I believe America would think things through before casting their votes for Obama.

    Laws now would put Ayers away for good trying to murder children like he and wife masterminded and planned then carried out the attempt in April 1970. Murdering someone is simply animal like but trying to blow a home up with ‘CHILDREN” inside is far worse than being an animal.

    The real serious issue is Obama embracing Ayers still. Obama cannot use his age for any excuse now like he did when questioned about his association with Ayers.
    Obama knows what Ayers has done and Obama knows what Ayers will do if he has the opportunity.

    The fact remains Obama has never denounced Ayers or Ayers actions. His campaign recently was ask about the association with Ayers. The reply was, they are still “Friendly.”

    Friendly with a criminal minded person tells what Obama is…
    Michelle Obama never told America she was sorry for her insane comments either.

    America she claims is mean in 2008. Yes Michelle, we are mean to them that want America destroyed…

    Obama and the Democratic party will never recover from the lies and forcing Hillary out…

    Vote McCain…It’s time to switch from Democrat to Republican…

  • Brendy

    Comment by Peter | 2008-06-08 13:59:45

    I want all of the Hillary supporters to vote for my candidate John McCain in 2008, so I can vote against her in 2012. I don’t want that Muslim to win this year and theres no way I’m voting for a woman in 2012 especially not dare I say Hillary Clinton. I hate her just as much as I did in the 90’s when she was talking about socialized medicine, I’m looking forward to us Republicans getting the opportunity to kick her ass.

    McCain 08′!

    ***

    Peter is an Obama supporter TROLL!

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    Whitman walked out on Bush.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    Freaking WITLIST.BLOGSPOT? Are youuuuuuuuuu kidding?

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    I’ve been saying it right along. Too bad a Fascist had to point it out. lol.

  • Leibniz08

    No we are not stuck with Obama, the nomination is in August~ Time to keep talking up the scandals in mainstream American blogs, call in Shows, etc.
    There are many levels of scandal, including the MURDERED GAY MEN AT OBAMA’S CHURCH, ALL KILLED WITHIN
    40 DAYS OF ONE ANOTHER. OBAMA’S FALL COULD WELL BE BIBLICAL OR AT LEAST ON THE SPITZER RICHTER SCALE.

  • Hope Floats

    can they not read? either Obama hires illiterate trolls or they actually live in Palestinian bunkers. Can’t tell the difference between “stodgy” and “stooge”?!!

  • Hope Floats

    As long as she communicates support to Obama she’s safe. I don’t care what reasons they come up with to explain Obama getting his ass beat like a rented mule. It just has to happen. He is dangerous, and if we didn’t love Hillary so much, we might have missed the warning signs about this guy. The best way to beat Obama is vote for McCain. Just vote for the best choice on the ballot. If you’re a moderate who values experience, that candidate will be McCain.

  • Nicole

    Ignore the ugly troll “Kerry Down”…it’s just trying to get a reaction from us Hillary supporters.

    If we ignore them completely, they’ll vanish into the ether.

  • Nicole

    According to my male friends, there’s no such thing as a bad blow job, so not one of them would turn any offer down.

    Women, on the other hand, are more discerning.

  • Hope Floats

    It’s best to leave the spectre of race riots out of the discussions. That’s a big, kind of insulting “what if?”

  • Nicole

    Pink, the troll “Kerry Downs” is citing a falsehood that has been disproved numerous times. Let me shout it out, once more, for anyone who hasn’t read about the vote:

    HILLARY DID NOT VOTE TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ!**

    Okay, now, let’s move on.

    **for those too lazy to do the research, do a Youtube search of former Ambassador Wilson (Valerie Plame’s significant other) explaining Hillary’s vote.

  • Hope Floats

    Very nicely put. I see nothing “progressive” about the Obama movement at all.

  • http://www.votenader.org/issues/ J

    Jim,
    It’s so discouraging to for people to say “a vote for Green or Nader” is a vote for whatever the worst choice is. If you’re for Democrats, somehow it makes the Republics win, and Vice Versa appearantly now. That is so irrational.

    How can a mind be so twisted and beaten down that voting for the best choice is always the worst choice? It’s only if people who think like that, that makes it true in any way, and I guess that’s what we’re supposed to think.

  • Nicole

    I actually believe the screaming “Lourdes” is another Troll, posting crazy, racist rants to try and make NoQuarter commenters seem like reactionaries (which is how some of the other pro-Hillary blogs see this site).

  • Nicole

    Are you saying that Taylor Marsh was suggesting her commenters squeal on each other? But how was she suggesting they do that? And why? and to whom? (sorry for all the questions, just curious) That’s unbelievable.

  • http://www.votenader.org/issues/ J

    A little dream.
    I have a small dream that Americans will educate themselves and really vote out of hope instead of fear. Just say NO to the fear that somehow, voting for who represents us best will magically make the worst one win.

    I think it’s fair to say I only know much about three of the choices we are likely to have.
    1. McCain, American Vet, Militaristic and Republican.
    2. Obama, Liar, False Purveyer of Dreams, Scam Artist, Thug and Democrat. Probably Militant, Definately Wishy Washy, but in no way Dumb, just Arrogent.
    3. Nader, Crotchety Champion of Consumer and American Rights and Safety, Disrupter and Deluded Hopeful. I would call him a Libertarian, but to be honest, I am only familiar with him in terms of issues, some of his noble and believable history, and not really his affiliation.

    I’m sure we could have more options, but these are what I am familiar with. I think this whole smokescreen on Obama to make us swallow him whole is masking a frightening motive, to trick us into thinking things are fixed without changing anything. I don’t like McCain, and his seeming stance that only some people are human. I may be too lazy or complacent for Nader though.

    Either way, my hope is just once, we will take off the masks, look at our candidates, and hear no fear based dillusion that choosing whoever represents us best, is throwing away our votes, because that’s supposed to be the whole point of voting, to determine the will of the people, and not play tricky politics ourselves, manipulating others into thinking they don’t have a true choice that matters as well.

  • done4

    I agree. I read on several “progressive” blogs that “we” have our party back now. “It is again the true progressive party it once was. The Clinton brought it to the center.”

    The Clintons have their finger on the pulse of this nation and understand that the majority of us are center not radical left. That’s why they’re out.

  • claribel borden

    Obama steals, anyone who ignores Rezko does so at his own peril.

    Obama is not a good guy.

    Ok, how long before the backlash, from team O?

    “He’s not the guy we thought he was…”

    LOL

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    They have no use for moderate Democrats, which is why they must try to bully us through guilt and other ridiculas means for our votes.

    I have no use for them, either. So it works both ways.

  • claribel borden

    I don’t see it that way, I just try to tell the truth, and stay above board.

    I wont vote for either, schemes don’t work in the long run, and seem to drown those who engage.

    The stupid always, always do themselves in…

  • claribel borden

    But the question in regard to the power dynamics was interesting, and accurate.

    Perhaps unintentional, but accurate.

    I think there are already power struggles within Obama’s campaign.

  • claribel borden

    Peter is an Obama troll, projecting.

    Isnt that sad?

    So easy to fool.

  • Titus

    This isn’t going far enough. Obviously we can’t in good conscience vote for any of the majority of democratic congressional representatives who now openly support Obama. We can only make our point by voting a straight republican ticket. That’ll show them where we really stand!

    Like somebody said, the democratic party is dead anyway.

  • Kinky Ogremann

    Sorry – Obama is not an option, not in a time of multiple wars on multiple fronts and his incompetence on foreign affairs. McCain will be bad, that’s why voting for him is the shortest route to a Hilary presidency in 2012. People will remember and come back with a vengeance in voting for her – do what they will – they can not overthrow a huge majority in the DNC and there is NO ONE right now who even has the slightest bit of chance against Hillary. Throwing your vote away for a third party is not an alternative as this gives Obama a chance at the white house – I rather see McCain there then let the neo-liberals take over the Democratic Party.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    That’s McCain’s biggest appeal to me, too. 4 years only.

  • Thomas

    McCain’s wife, Cindy, refuses to disclose her tax information, citing her right to privacy. She’s known to have a net worth in excess of $100 million. McCain has more industry lobbyists on his campaign staff than Obama and Hillary did combined. I don’t know about you, but I’m uncomfortable with this. While McCain was the only Senator involved in the Keating Five scandal not to be recommended for censure for improper conduct, he was also the one who received the most campaign money from the Keating family–$112,000. More corporate lobbyists than you can shake a stick at, a history of contributions from people wanting to buy influence, and a wife who won’t disclose her finances. I don’t like that combination.

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