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Obamedia Angst

While many of us have yet to decide who we will support after Hillary’s endorsement yesterday some supporters have determined that there is one thing they will not forget. And that is the way the media hopped on the hope train and used their influence to tear Hillary down, day after day.

Bettyjean Kling is one such Hillary supporter. And she minces no words at all.

Clinton supporters angry at Matthews, Olbermann, media

“Chris Matthews, I can’t even look at him anymore,” Kling spat as she waited for Hillary Clinton to take the stage. “What’s the name of that other nut?”

“Keith Olbermann,” offered a friend.

“Keith Obama-man,” growled Kling, a retired special ed teacher from Shippensburg, Pa.

And who can really blame her? I wonder if the Obama camp and the DNC have any idea how much damage that their in-the-tank-for-Obama media enablers have done to gender relationships nationwide. Do they honestly think that the rest of us will suddenly make up with our abuser and pretend as if they are actually our protector now?

Not bloody likely, I say.

It seemed to be more bitter than sweet for many, however, with special acid reserved for the media. Several of the hundreds gathered here said they thought that unfair news coverage helped Illinois Sen. Barack Obama win the Democratic presidential nomination.

What steps have the DNC taken? We heard Howard Dean mention the sexism in the race the day after he led the DNC into violating it’s own rules to hand Obama the nomination. But we never heard a word before that in the long 16 months of the campaign. And we haven’t heard a word since.

And the Obama campaign, just what have they said or done? Will they say or do anything at all? Or do they shoulder that responsibility upon Hillary?

Obama, meanwhile, has some work to do. Some Clinton voters said they’d vote for John McCain, the Republican nominee. Some said they wouldn’t vote at all. Many were grudgingly accepting.

“Will I vote for McCain? No,” said Angelia Ifantides, a teacher from Fairfax, Va. who wore a pink t-shirt with Clinton’s face silk-screened on it in red. “Will I put an Obama sticker on my car? Probably not. I’ll accept it in November. I have right to be angry ’til then.”

I believe that the DNC and Obama campaign are counting on people like Angelia Ifantides. They think that in the end we will vote for their candidate, regardless of our well justified reservations.

But not me. And probably not Bettyjean Kling.

At the back of the room, shoulders slumped, stood Bettyjean Kling. She slowly shook her curly-haired head side to side. She wiped away tears.

She didn’t clap.

  • POdVet

    I understand the anger directed at Obama, but McCain is a man too.

    Do you think the Republican party will EVER have a woman run for their nomination? They are a ‘good ole boys’ club that has their glass ceiling near the floor.

    I think what it comes down to is the issues. Hillary spent 40 years of her life fighting for woman’s issues, and for issues that affect all Americans.

    Her platform was for universal health care, ending the war in Iraq, reforming our education system, and fixing the economy.

    Yet McCain stands at odds with Hillary on all those issues. He’s even against a woman’s right to choose, one of the most basic liberties afforded to us.

    Can you really call yourself a Clinton supporter if you vote for McCain? I think nothing could be more dishonorable.

    • Kat

      I probably won’t vote for McCain. I absolutely won’t vote for Obama.

      I’d always look forward to my first presidential election since I became a citizen last year. guess I just have to sit this one out.

      • blobert

        DNC is going to wake up with a hangover, 50% of the party gone, turn and see that it is in bed with Barack Hussein Obama, and will then say “My God. What have I done?”

    • Susaninbosque

      We can wait and hope that the implosion we know is coming to Obama comes in time.

      We can hope that he publically intimidates more folks than just Joe Lieberman in the Senate.

      And if he slips through the net in August, we can always refuse to vote.

      Not voting is a right as well.

      What on earth makes anyone think that Obama will respect anyone’s rights any more than Bush does?

      The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. This is a basic psychological law. If you apply it, Hillary looks like the savior she is, McCain does not look all that bad and Obama looks like (if not evil) at least mal-intentioned bumbling idiot that he is.

      I think that my vote is worth more than that. Obama will never win my vote but Mc Cain could.

    • blobert

      McCain is more independent than Republican. Which is why he was Kerry’s first choice as VP.

    • http://hillaryorbust.blogspot.com Hillary or Bust

      “They are a ‘good ole boys’ club that has their glass ceiling near the floor.”

      There is no evidence of this whatsoever.

      I hate Condoleezza Rice but you have to hand it to Bush and company – THEY are the ones who gave us the first black woman as Secretary of State.

    • Deep Truths

      You don’t understand SHIT POvet.

    • kenoshaMarge

      I can call myself a Hillary Clinton supporter no matter who the hell I vote for. I supported her.
      Now that she has suspended I will make my own decision how I will vote as I always have.

      She asked for my vote and she got it. My choice. She asks that I support Obama, I won’t and that’s also my choice.

      You say:

      Do you think the Republican party will EVER have a woman run for their nomination? They are a ‘good ole boys’ club that has their glass ceiling near the floor.

      You just described the Democratic Party too. They just pretend they’re different. After the 2000 election and the stealing of votes I thought nothing could make me loathe anything more than the Republicans.

      On May 31st on National Television the Democratic Party showed that they are as corrupt and despicable as the Republicans. Don’t you dare lecture me about voting for McCain. At least he got to be the Republican Presumptive nominee honestly and the RNC didn’t have to cheat to push him across the finish line.

    • Nadai

      The Republican Party is lost to women for the foreseeable future. The question is, is the Democratic Party also lost? If they pay no price for what they’ve done this primary season, if women knuckle under and vote for Obama, why would they ever take women or our concerns seriously again?

      I was going to write Clinton’s name in this November, feeling that voting for McCain was a bridge too far. I’ve changed my mind. Women need for Obama and the Democratic Party to pay for the choices they made. Not voting for McCain, when the winner will be either McCain or Obama, is nothing more than me attempting to be politically pure. I’m past that now. I will do whatever I have to do to see to it that the Democratic Party never ignores misogyny again.

    • http://supergram.blogspot.com ProudMilitaryMom

      I have had about enough. Hillary is honorable and values the true Democratic principles- you know the ones that count every American???
      The DNC can got to HELL and hurry up about it! What would Obama, the DNC OR the media know about HONOR??? After what we have witnessed? Give me a break! What IS honorable is to say, very loudly and very clearly, YOU Obama, YOU Dean, Brazile, Olbermann and the rest are no better than the thugs that stole the election in 2000. What IS honorable is to say NO I will not condone this behavior!

    • Uppity

      His health care plan is useless. No plan at all. A hoax. And I’ll be damned if I am going to type a long one again on this subject. A waste. Just like Barack Obama.

    • fran

      Looks like your doing your duty over her shilling for the Obama campaign, bringing the little ladies on board. Nice try. I will never vote for Obama. He not only stood by and did nothing, he actively fueled the Hillary hatred for his own advantage. Oh yeah, and then there is the race baiting, the glaring inexperience, the arrogance, the hypocrisy (lobbyist funds, NAFTA, robocalls etc.) and the illegitimacy of the RBC decision. I will never endorse or support this unethical, undemocratic, and reprehensible behavior. Sell it somewhere else.

    • wac for hillary

      At least with McCain, I know what his positions are. Obama’s change by the second. I believe nothing Obama says; his actions speak volumes. Did he vote to cut off funds for Iraq? Is his universal health care plan really universal? What’s his position on social security; is he still for privatizing it? Given how he treated Hillary, can we truly believe he is for women’s rights? How pro-environment is he given his nuclear energy backer? How is he going to solve our energy problems; didn’t he back Cheney’s energy bill while McCain did not? How much more evidence do you need that Obama is not the progressive he pretends to be?

      One overriding consideration for me as a vet is do I want the military under the control of Ayers’ best buddy? My answer is a resounding NO!

    • Caya

      I can understand what you are saying but Kim Campbell (Canada) & Margaret Thatcher (UK) were both Conservative.

      I got this from wiki:

      Kim Campbell was the first and to date only female Prime Minister of Canada, and the second woman in history to sit at the table of the Group of Eight leaders (after British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher). She was the third woman to serve as a head of government in North America (after Eugenia Charles of Dominica and Violeta Chamorro of Nicaragua)

  • mahaska

    May I venture a guess about those vicious old white men in the media? Married more than once and still bitter about it.

    • Uppity

      Yeah mahaska…and everybody knows why their wives left them….except them.

    • Nyetobama

      The ego driven media, the Obama fawning pundits, and the networks will soon wake uo an realize how they have screwed up. just like the Obama campaign and the DNC already know.

      What is going on now with the Obama messianics, the DNC, and their enabling pundits/bloggers is exactly what occurs with wife-beating or child-abusing spouses.

      They are begging their victims to come home, please give them another chance, while at the same time blaming the victim for the situation.

      They beat, kick, denigrate,verbally torture, and try to psychologically enslave their victims. They feel all powerful until someone or something intercedes and they feel they are losing their power over said victims.

      Then they grovel, cajole, and beg for another chance, while still intermittently harassing their victims if the persuasion seems not to be working.

      Wise or rescued victims never return to their clutches, remove them from their lives, and avoid them like the plague. just as we are doing and will continue to do..

      The resolve and common goal of Clinton supporters is shelter for us. We do not have to deal with the psychoactive projections of the Obama minions.

      We need to avoid them like the plague, while understanding their psychosis and coming failure/defeat is not our problem!

      Obama cannot and will not win and his abusive, insufferable, supporters and enablers know it! We damn sure know it, we are the deciders. And…. I have already decided, Obam, the DNC and the media can all go to hell!

      They need me, but I do not need them! they can find solace elsewhere.

    • moi61537

      Mahaska father of Oskaloosa?

      • mahaska

        Yep

    • Lou

      Betty Jean Kling put in countless hours behind the scenes. She was at task 24/7
      She was a first responder and was a cohesive ally. She kept the groups repsonding under the radar.
      Tears understandable.

  • Kat

    Not me either. I am writing to Hillary to thank her for her hard work. I told her I respect her opinion, but this time I can’t follow her.

  • Danny

    I thought that the media was the abuser this morning to. The one we won’t leave. The media gave Hillary black eyes, bruises, broken legs, shot her on the track and we all keep going back for more. I’m killing the cable for the summer as a way to show them I won’t stand for the abuse any more. Hillary’s back is raw from the whippings, she is lucky to be alive after the abuse heaped on her by the corporate media hacks, Obama, his surrogates, and supporters.

    I’ll never vote for Obama – We have to stick together in SOLIDARITY to beat this evil that supports him.

  • Amalia

    PoD vet, it’s not that obama is a man, it’s the sexism!

    he stood by and said nothing.

    no, actually, he stood by and CONTRIBUTED to the sexism….
    tea drinking, periodically she’s frustrated,sweetie.

    he benefitted by sexism and said nothing about attacks on Hillary.

    he accused her of racism and benefitted by that twist. Hillary is not a
    racist, neither is Bill.

    but that is what happens in Obama land, from the campaign, on the
    blogs, and in the media. whenever Hillary partisans want sexism
    corrected, the response was “she is a racist.”

    think I’m wrong? head over to HuffPo on any thread that deals with
    Hillary. you’ll read their crap.

    PUMA!

  • HillGirl

    I have to do what is best and right for my country. The DNC chose, in their own self-interest – not in the best interest of my country – to back an unqualified candidate. My country needs Hillary Clinton as President. Since they refuse to see that, since they have no problems with that, I will take my vote next door.

  • Number2

    Read the posts after the McClatchy story, the Obamatrons just don’t get, don’t see it, or refuse to believe it.

    I just won’t vote for him. For someone who was supposed to offer change, Obambi made sure the rules worked for him, rather than doing the right thing.

    How much change can you achieve when all of the LOSER democrats line up behind you: Kennedy, Kerry, Dukakis, Brazille et al.

    Aaaaaaaargh!

    I want a new party!

    • Uppity

      LOL he’s going to pick a woman and he thinks that will make it ok? LOL! What. A. Jerk.

      • LN

        Hey, maybe Brazille should be his VP!

        • bonita

          Oh please let this be so! This would definitely be the end of Obama.

          • CognitiveDissonance

            I think we should all send him thousands of letters begging him to make Brazile his VP, telling him that women will love it and all will be forgiven. Then we can watch the puzzlement on his face in November as the 50-state loss comes in.

        • blobert

          Caroline :-)

          • Fred C. Dobbs

            I don’t care about her little book on the Constitution, nothjing I’ve heard come out of her mouth shows me that she’s any smarter than a small bag of hammers.

            A shade brighter than Paris Hilton, not nearly so entertaining as, for instance, Danny Bonaducci.

          • Lou

            Yeha he and Caroline. Two inexperienced people. Just great..

        • catherine

          Is Brazile a woman?

          • Lou

            No. She’s really a robot

      • Lou

        Pelosi??? I know it is fixed.

  • CyclingLeft

    It’s not just Matthews and Olbermann, but most of the media has total discounted women. This morning while discussing Clinton’s speech Byron Pitts, CBS News on Reliable Sources this morning:

    “Certainly. I mean, as an African-American man, this is significant. I mean, look, for my entire life I’ve been able to, as a man, dream of doing great things. But a dream I could never have was being president of the United States.

    Now, for instance, my sons, my nephew, they can have that dream. And I think those kinds of images are important.”

    “My sons,my nephew”. Now maybe he has no daughters or nieces but I think it shows the mindset that many male journalist have. They can only frame everything in male terms and do not even see women.

    • Nyetobama

      Dream on! Byron Pitts and all of your ilk!

      Then have nightmares about how McCain and Clinton Democrats and independents sent your affirmative action, half-AA idol back to Chicago to re-join his racist, anarchist, marxist friends.

      Obama is unelectable, and this will become clearer everyday between now and August 27.

  • Portia

    Geez, when is this victimized behavior going to stop?

    The glass ceiling will never be broken by people whining about how hard the glass is.

    • Number2

      Go back to Obamaville

    • Nadai

      When the victimization stops.

    • mimi

      I got news for you Portia. The sexism, the misogyny, those things bothered me but not as much as Obama and his camp race-baiting and then pretending that they didn’t. Michelle Obama misquoted Bill Clinton and has yet to apologize. That’s flat out wrong and you have no idea how many in the AA community believe that misquote. He should sue for slander.

      I also am pissed that the msm did not report the news. And they’re still not reporting it. In New Orleans a group called Voters for Power has already been busted for registering dead people and pets even. One figure I heard was 70,000. And an election official said his name was even on one of the registration forms. He thanked them for making him younger.

      Your remarks are offensive. For many years and even today whites have complained about blacks playing the race card even when justified. Al Sharpton gets put down even when he goes to bat for a family whose unarmed son on the eve of his wedding day was killed in a hail of some 50 police bullets.

      People like you who are willful in your disdain of legitimate charges whether it be sexism or racism only expose your lack of humanity and compassion. Obama and his tactics have spawned people like you who have decided that a national election should be played like a sporting event where winning at any cost is justified. You guys make up rules as you go along and would kick your own mother to the curb if it meant winning.

      So don’t give me that whining crap. Obama and his supporters have been whining about racism all campaign long if whites say they prefer another candidate which is their right as guaranteed under the US Constitution. Hillary’s female supporters have a legitimate beef with regard to the way she was treated by the msm and the ugly vile comments by Obama’s supporters. I’m sure a lot of men didn’t vote for her solely because she was a woman. But that’s not what people here are complaining about. That you don’t even give credence to the historical precedent that was set by everyone, including journalists, calling for her to drop out of the race makes you a cretin. Even Ted Kennedy with fewer delegates in 1980 wasn’t asked to that.

      But good for you. The dice rolled your way this time and you choose to be smug. Love the way you’re championing Party Unity. It really goes a long way toward proving my point. But remember, you’ll get no sympathy in November with regard to racism. And I’m AA, and even I don’t care. Obama started it, so he and his people will have to take it just like Hillary’s women.

      • Nyetobama

        Mimi, you always write so well and definitively, Thanks.

        As a friend used to always say regarding unfair opposition: “They will damn sure suffer!”

        It is up to us to make sure they do.

      • D

        So so true.

        Obama and his supporters have been whining about racism all campaign long if whites say they prefer another candidate

        I had a discussion the other day that turned into an argument with someone who I considered one of my best friends. He refused to accept I didn’t like Obama, even when I laid out the (many, MANY) reasons why. I’ll add (I almost feel like I have to now) that not one of them was his race. He realised his argument was not getting the results he wanted (me to say “Oh yeah, I DO love Obama”) so he called my a “psycho Hill-bot”, and then (the final straw) a “racist a**”. Now, I’m sure you understand why he WAS a friend, but not so much now.

        I should probably let you know, I’m a 22 year old guy from the UK, but have been following the election closely (my ‘friend’ lives in California). But tonight, I have tears in my eyes because I feel like I’m watching a country which could easily lead the world in every aspect turn against its core values.

        In the beginning, I prefered Clinton, but with all the media hype (oh yes, we’ve been suffering from Obama-mania over here in the UK too), I started to wonder “maybe there is something to this guy”. But, I looked and looked, and could see nothing but inexperience and fancy speeches. Then the Rev. Wright issue came up – and that was it for me. The fact that people could still support or defend him after that baffles my mind to this day. So then my choice was easily 110% Clinton. I watched her get beaten up at every opportunity, by the media, and by the Obama side (and then watch the Obama side claim the Clinton side were the nasty ones).

        I sit here, still, after almost a week, wondering, “Just how could a party/a country throw away a candidate who would bring one of the best minds to the White House, and who would actually make change instead of just talking about it?”

        But, it’s not even just about Hillary anymore. To me, equal weight should be places on why Obama, his wife, his associates, his supporters are filled with so much hate, and also why the media seems to still love him. Any time yet another issue comes up to put Obama in a negative light, he shrugs his shoulders, says “It wasn’t me”, and the media say “Oh, OK. Sorry Barack!”. Is that really someone who people want to be a president – someone who will drop his responsibility at every opportunity?

        I don’t want to live in a world where the USA is a hate-filled country – you can do SO much better. Unfortinately, I feel it may be too late with Hillary gone, but please PLEASE prove me right.

        Oh and to add something someone said (I think in one of these comments), which I agree with… Clinton/McCain want to become The President to actually make a difference to people/the country. Obama wants to become The President to just simply be The President (how cool would that be, eh Barack??) *sigh*

      • Lou

        Portia? Why are you here? Are you monitoring our mood?
        Why is it important to you? You didn’t need us before and I’m sure you can do without us now.
        Can you spell N_E_V_E_R?
        GEEZ

    • Nyetobama

      My wife has long ago broken the “glass ceiling”, Portia.

      But, she wants the opportunity to be there for all women, even your carping, puling, enabling type. The ones who have ridden the backs of others for every gain they have gotten.

      However, she and I, along with about 18 million others want it for HRC, and want a qualified known female to be able to prove she is better than a emphemeral, unknown figment of psychotic messiah seekers!

      • roseeriter

        Portia, go back to Obama town and enjoy your new progressive submissive position. That’s what you are voting for.

    • Hope Floats

      I love how they pick these names, too. Portia from The Merchant of Venice, one of Shakespeare’s cross-dresser heroines. She uses trickery to get what she wants in the end which is two gains; protection of her status, wealth and power and winning while being obedient to her dead father. Shakespeare made a case that women could only succeed outside the confines of specific gender roles, and moving toward androgyny is a step in the right direction. The men who hold women to these standards basically say that sexism is justified when strong women slip up and betray their inherent femininity. In other words, she deserved it. Oh, duh. “Portia” is a man.

      • Lou

        Portia is Obama. He blogs alot on Sundays.

    • mahaska

      yes when will bo stop with his professional victim schtick?

  • Ellen D

    Hillary and McCain both have experience. What is it that the Obama supporters don’t understand?

  • democrat no more

    If you just sit and not vote, how can we affect change in DNC? And how can you forget Michigan and Florida?
    To defeat Obama is the only way we can send the message to DNC, or else Dean and Brazile will do this again, stealing and manipulating the election.

    • Yo

      Exactly! Not voting or writing in Hillary’s name if she is not the nominee will just help Obama get elected. You don’t think so?

      Look at the number. If a million people vote for John McCain, that puts McCain up a million votes and Obama down a million votes. That’s a two million vote spread! Obama would have to get two million votes to surpass McCain.

      Remember Gore lost the 2000 election by only 537 votes so your vote will make a difference as to whether McCain or Snobama is in the White House. Don’t think it won’t

      • Nyetobama

        Hypothetically we get 2 votes when we vote for McCain:

        The one for McCain, and the one we denied Obama.

        The latter being the one that Obama very early on said he was sure he could get from HRC supporters, and added he doubted HRC could get those of his supporters.

        I plan to make good use of “both” of mine, as do my family and friends.

  • Andy

    OT: Big Brown lost…. where are again those methapors we were hearing a while back about Big Brown, Obama, filly Eight Belles and HRC??

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/10421

    • Andy

      Quote :

      After three months of dominance, Big Brown became the first Triple Crown hopeful to finish last at the Belmont Stakes. His jockey, Kent Desormeaux, said that heading into the final turn, when he called on Big Brown to give him that special reserve, he realised, “I had no horse.”

      Interesting.

      • mahaska

        Big Brown was fighting him. The horse knew better than the greedy owners. They were racing him with a cracked hoof. No big deal to them. Brown begged to differ. The same type of mentality that killed Eight Belles. He rode her too flat out which caused those ankle factures that ended in her death.

  • karen for Clinton

    You say Dean mentioned the day after the RBC, nope even worse… he started his sexism speech AT the RBC meeting itself. It actually gave me some hope despite thinking for weeks the fix is in and they are going to slaughter her. I heard Dean’s comments and thought, hmmm, maybe they finally heard us.

    Within a short time all hopes were dashed and as soon as I saw Brazile come back from the smoky back room lunch cabal wheeling and dealing with a huge smile, after she had been pouty and miserable all morning, I knew the fix was in and it was going to be really ugly.

    He mentioned sexism right before stabbing her in the back and stealing the election for his sham candidate that he’d groomed for such a long time.

    Revenge is ours. End of story.

    They can swing back the other way and make it right at the convention, but one thing is for sure, they’ve lost all their moral ground and their crediblity. It would take a full sweep of the entire upper eschalon as well as a hell of a lot of new ACTIONS, not just words, to change any minds and even then it would have to be after a Credentials Committee hearing or lawsuit that showed the rules were selective and hijacked.

    They’ll hear us walking away LOUDER than all the recreate 68 losers chaos would have caused.

    • catherine

      Agreed! Revenge IS ours and they still do not see it coming but they WILL!

    • http://paganpower.wordpress.com/ PaganPower

      You are absolutely right about Dean using the sexism statement before the meeting. I just remembered watching him on TV during the Sunday Morning talk shows and he acted like he really cared. It was sickening.

  • annakarenina

    Cynthis McKinney is a viable alternative to voting for John McCain. She is a liberal black woman who is running for president on the Green ticket

    • karen for Clinton

      A vote for anybody but McCain is a vote for obama.

      We have till November till we vote, lots of changes before then anyway there is a chance ob won’t be around by then. He might be tossed out and dragged out of the running for a variey of reasons.

    • Lou

      No thanks

  • Bitter Moss Back

    Good Afternoon Clinton Haters!

    Yes, We really do know who you are.
    The MSM led by,Matthews,Cafferty,Olberman and Russert.
    The DNC with the bought and sold Howie Dean.
    The loser leader bosses in the democrat party.

    Guess what?
    Your overt bias and sexism
    I take that personally!!
    You not only hate the Clinton’s but you also hate me.

    I’m in the process of erasing all associations with those that played a part in this fixed nomination.

    I have dropped my local paper…

    I have torn up my DNC register and refuse to send money

    I have eliminated all channels that were sexist to Hillary.

    I am actively campaigning on down ticket campaigns of those who supported the empty suit.

    I will give twice the effort to insure a McCain presidency.

    Clinton Republican/McCain Democrat

    I will be respected!!!!!!!!

    • blobert

      We absolutely need a new progressive paper.
      The NYT is selling out to General Electric.

      • claribel borden

        Don’t we though?

        We haven’t had principled reporters for a long long time, those independent and strong enough to tell the truth.

      • Lou

        NYT was so in the tank for BHO

  • politicsIsdirty

    WHY I AM NOT SUPPORTING SEN CLINTON’S CALL TO UNITE

    I am a registered Democrat and have been voting Democrat for 2 decades now. However, I am an American citizen first. Democrat second. I love my country and I am willing to bear arms, fight and ready to die for the United States of America. I am not like some stupid Americans who wear blinders like a lot of Democrats or Republicans are. Although personality is important, I am not a stupid American who will vote based on personalities alone. Being cool is nothing to me. Unlike some stupid Americans, I will not vote based on race, age or sex. Although the Democrat platform is where I am more comfortable with, I am not like some stupid Americans who will vote based on Party affiliation. Unlike some stupid Americans, I will not let my vote be influenced by the media. Unlike most stupid Americans, I will not vote for a candidate with extremist views. As like other SMART Americans, I will vote for whoever is the best for the country.

    After careful consideration, I believe that the best person who can best serve our country is Sen Clinton. She has the experience to lead and the vision on how progress in our country can be attained. She is tenacious, courageous and has unabashed and unwavering sense of patriotism. I like her platform of Universal Healthcare, responsible withdrawal out of Iraq and plan to fix the economy.

    Even though Sen Clinton endorsed Sen Obama there is no way I will vote for him. I will either be voting for Sen McCain who likewise has unabashed and unwavering sense of patriotism and experience to lead or just stay home.

    I don’t really doubt the patriotism of Sen Obama but there are a lot of unknown about him. The unfortunate thing is the more I get to know him the more controversy about him comes out. I don’t intend to gamble my country to the care of Sen Obama.

    Moreover, the playing field in the primary was not fair. Obama has the full support of the MSM who instead of doing their job to investigate any controversy about a particular candidate, dedicated their time on explaining reasons why Sen Obama should be the nominee. If the controversies about Sen Obama came out early in the Primary campaign, I doubt if he will win in the states where it is not predominantly black.

    Again, I love my country and my loyalty belongs to our country not to any political party. I know that a lot of people feel the same way too.

    I don’t know whether Sen Clinton thinks that loyalty to PARTY is more important than loyalty to COUNTRY. But if she firmly believes that she can do a far superior job than Sen Obama or Sen McCain then I think she should abandon the party that has disrespected her and run as an Independent.

    I am still hoping she changes her mind about supporting the flawed candidate.

    • http://supergram.blogspot.com ProudMilitaryMom

      Hear, Hear! Well said! It IS (or should be) always, America first! I am not and never will be casting my vote for Obama- too much we don’t know and what we do know all points to very unsavory stuff.

  • Elizabeth

    Thank you trolls, all I have to do is read your comments to know I will not give into the Party of Failure anymore.

    Anytime I could even think to give in or give up, sit down and shut up I have you to help get me over the hump to again steel my resolve to take back my Party !

    • mimi

      And they’re really dense about this, too. You’d think they’d STFU! But know, they continue their race-baiting, misogynistic comments.

      I went back to a Hillary-hating/proObama site and lurked for as long as my stomach could take it. This used to be a fairly active site with lots of comments. The average per thread were anywhere from 2 dozen upward. On the blog about Hillary’s speech yesterday they had only 9 comments. Some threads only 1. They’re Hillary-hatred is so strong they don’t even realize that many people stopped posting there.

      We’re no longer on the same planet as these people. They have willfully chosen to ignore 18 million voters and the DNC gave them the signal that it was okay to do that. This is why I think Obama has the wheels in motion to steal the election. It’s already started in New Orleans.

      We’re only on the front edge of disgusting Chicago-style politics.

      • Lou

        As predicted. The start of Obama Base goes off and finds other things to do. It’s summer and after all, McCain is boring to them.

        They won’t be back for the general.
        This will end up like McGovern.

        Well Obama base is so dumb maybe they think he’s president now. Obama is going around talking like he’s not only president but ready to win a second term.

  • RJ

    Hello…if anyone stays at home, writes in a name or votes for Nader, it is the same as voting for Obama. John McCain is a hero. He’s is also a maverick and doesn’t share all of the same views as Bush. He already said he will work with republicans, democrats and will take suggestions from both sides. Obama scares me. If some miracle doesn’t happen betweeen now and the democratic convention to make Hillary the nominee, I will cast my vote for John McCain. It is shameful the way Hillary has been treated by the media and what’s even more shameful is that it’s condoned by the DNC and the democratic party. We will remember in November!

    • HARP

      Let’s not fool ourselves here. Being a McCainBot isn’t any better than an ObamaBot.

      McCain isn’t a maverick. He flip-flopped on the war, he flip-flopped on Bush’s tax cuts for the rich, he flip-flopped on warrantless wiretaps, and he voted with Bush 95% of the time in the Senate last year.

      Bush and McCain are very, very close on the issues. And McCain stands very far apart on the issues from Hillary.

      If you’re a true Hillary supporter, I don’t understand how you could vote for McCain. He doesn’t support her stance on Iraq, the economy, universal health care, education reform, and a lot more.

  • Andy

    PaganPower and all; I know Mark Steyn is a right-winger but his article today is priceless and very funny about C. Matthews and the media. His last comment about Obama and Ahmadinejad is also funny but in a scary way.
    Read it; it is worth your while.

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/obama-speech-remake-2061941-sen-great

    • Andy

      PS: And I should add it is right on !

    • mahaska

      mathews might want to get that tingle seen by a doctor. Sounds like a blood clot.

    • http://paganpower.wordpress.com/ PaganPower

      I read that and chuckled earlier today.

    • Hope Floats

      I loved when he called Obama “political viagra.”

    • bart

      I read this earlier and really liked it!

  • Deep Truths

    The anger, resentment, disillusionment, piss-offment ain’t going to go away until the PROBLEM is rectified. The PROBLEM is BO and the DNC. The other PROBLEM is BO supporters and the MSM.

    A difficult situation from the start. Sixty percent of Clinton supporters will vote for Obama, down from 80 percent.

    The more Clinton Dems really know of Obama’s past the more hardened we will get.

    The MSM is a whole other metter. We have a problem in this country in that ‘news’ and therefore ‘reality’ is defined by what the media chooses.

    Our internet networking provides millions with objective sources. There is a reason why the MSM lost millions of viewers and if an alternative fair and balance access is offered, will no doubt permanently lose those views.

    We can still watch CNN for worldwide breaking disasters, their good at that, but SELECTING the next president is in the pervue of American citizens not sell out news and political vermin.

    The MSM is already ‘missing’ Hillary. Whatever will they do? No one to bash, not one to speculate endlessly. No one to play innocuous gaffes over and over again in order to help out the empty suit with terrorists ties and Chicago political graft.

    We’re on to you rat media. Its only a matter of coalescing the Army of Truth.

    • jjran

      If you want to watch world news… PLEASE turn to BBC America. It’s 100% better than CNN or the rest of Obamedia in covering the world news. If you have cable…please block them out…. The fight for democracy goes on. Hillary said “never give in and never give up…” continue to do what is good for America. Don’t stay home…please vote McCain. The DNC and Obamedia have to pay for what they have done. Voting for McCain and NEVER giving DNC money are only ways we can punish these thugs given what we have to work with at this point in history. Barack Hussien Obama MUST NOT be allowed into the oval office. Not now not ever. NObama.

      • petros

        I agree 100%.

      • D

        I’m not sure how BBC America differs in coverage to the actual BBC over here in the UK (I’m from England), but I’ve been pretty surprised at the coverage they’ve given on our news.

        Before this campaign, I felt like the BBC was the one big corporation I could trust. They’re a national institution over here. But they have been guilty of being one sided in their coverage and being swept up in the Obama craze. Don’t get me wrong – it’s nothing like you guys have had it. But as a publicly funded organisation, the BBC should be 100% impartial. So for that reason, I wrote to them expressing my views.

        We do have another news programme over here, on ‘Channel 4′, which I have to say, has given a far more equal report on the race.

        I still think highly of the BBC… they’re normally spot on. But my love of them over the last few months has slightly subsided.

    • mimi

      Absolutely, I will tune in for “breaking news.” But I used to be an almost round-the-clock viewer. No more. And they’re going to miss that. The BBC is a good site to go to and any foreign paper online that has English versions. Also, when you come on to the Internet, yahoo and msn has headlines.

      I also recommend tuning into Financial News reports. Frankly, that’s where the real news is anyway.

      And no more NYTimes no way!

  • Elizabeth

    Dear Obamanation,

    I know many hate having you here and on all the Hillary sites and anti-BO sites.

    I personally love that you are here.

    This way I will NEVER FORGET and Never Give IN.

    Please stay.

  • HARP

    A vote for McCain is like voting against BO twice.

    • so saddened

      yes, and i wish i could vote more. (like oblowme’s people do).

  • jjran

    Someone from MSNBC news room said that Chris Matthews is gay and he’s in love with BHO. This could explain some of things he has been saying about Obama speeches…. .

  • Andy

    OT: has anyone hear about Al Gore these days?

    • blobert

      Gore is smart enough to stay away from this.
      It would be like diving into molten lava.
      It would only hurt the causes that he, and all of us hold dear.

    • Fred C. Dobbs

      Probably laughing his ass off somewhere pleasant.

  • Mandelay

    It’s crazy. I stopped watching CNN and MSNBC and started watching FOX (for the first time in my life). I loved Hillary’s interview with the guy Keith calls “Bill O” and I was puzzled why Hillary found such courtesy and genuine spirited debate with the often crowned “worst person in the world.” FOX seems to cover the news I don’t see anywhere else. e.g. Here’s a story from the Cleveland Examiner which I found via a link on the Fox site:

    Council: Mongtomery schools cave to pressue with Islam book
    JUN 7, 2008 8:21 AM (1 DAY AGO) BY LEAH FABEL, THE EXAMINER

    A new report issued by the American Textbook Council says books approved for use in local school districts for teaching middle and high school students about Islam caved in to political correctness and dumbed down the topic at a critical moment in its history.
    “Textbook editors try to avoid any subject that could turn into a political grenade,” wrote Gilbert Sewall, director of the council, who railed against five popular history texts for “adjust[ing] the definition of jihad or sharia or remov[ing] these words from lessons to avoid inconvenient truths.”

    Sewall complains the word jihad has gone through an “amazing cultural reorchestration” in textbooks, losing any connotation of violence. He cites Houghton Mifflin’s popular middle school text, “Across the Centuries,” which has been approved for use in Montgomery County Schools. It defines “jihad” as a struggle “to do one’s best to resist temptation and overcome evil.”

    “But that is, literally, the translation of jihad,” said Reza Aslan, a religion scholar and acclaimed author of “No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of Islam.” Aslan explained that the definition does not preclude a militant interpretation.

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    “How you interpret [jihad] is based on whatever your particular ideology, or world viewpoint, or even prejudice is,” Aslan said. “But how you define jihad is set in stone.”

    A statement from Montgomery County Public Schools said that all text used by teachers had been properly vetted and were appropriate for classroom uses.

    Aslan said groups like Sewall’s are often more concerned about advancing their own interpretation of Islam than they are about defining its parts and then allowing interpretation to happen at the classroom level.

    Sewall’s report blames publishing companies for allowing the influence of groups like the California-based Council on Islamic Education to serve throughout the editorial process as “screeners” for textbooks, softening or deleting potentially unflattering topics within the faith.

    “Fundamentally I’m worried about dumbing down textbooks,” he said, “by groups that come to state education officials saying we want this and that – and publishers need to find a happy medium.”

    Maryland state delegate Saqib Ali refrained from joining the fray. “The job of assigning curriculum is best left to educators and the school board, and I trust their judgment,” he said.

    lfabel@dcexaminer.com (end quote)

    Well, the “free press” of 2008 is one strong reason I cannot vote for Obama. I was stupid enough to believe I could turn on the t.v. every day, usually to CNN and that I would get the news. Then I started visiting google’s news page and combing through thousands of articles and finding out I was not getting the news, just the tip of an iceberg selected by whichever network I was watching. Now I just watch FOX for entertainment, some “fair and balanced” stuff, a really good interview with Hillary, and a very polite, well-spoken “Bill O.” I’m still not getting any news, except for the occasional eye-opener on a blog here and there which I investigate as best I can, but at least I’m no longer a member of the captive audience. I grew up with the broadcasts of Ed Murrow. I miss him.

    • Number2

      I had to call my children (in college), so I could get the code to unlock the Fox News Channel!

      • Mandelay

        You’re kidding?!!!! I think we’re all going nuts. Well, now you can “lock out” MSNBC, LOL!

  • debbie

    who said we have to give up our values to oppose a candidate who is not fit to be the president. The DNC made a bad choice, we do not agree. voting for McCain states unequivocally that we believe he is better qualified than Obama. It does not say we believe the archaic platform of the republican party will be ours to cherish and hold dear forever and ever. My values are mine and I value a qualified president.

  • HARP

    Now that Larry knows the IP address of the asshole using our names, shit will fly.

    • so saddened

      harp, i’ve been trying for 2 days to post a link to a site where someone else is using your name. my posts keep disappearing. don’t know why. maybe it’s the linking? anyway, it’s dems4mcain’s site.

      • HARP

        Hi so saddened. These clowns are the product of no child left behind. Once Barky starts to really fuck up, they won`t have time for this.

        • so saddened

          true, harp. they’ll be trying – again – to pass the 7th grade.

          • Fred C. Dobbs

            Q: “What’s Long and Hard on a Troll?”
            A: “Seventh grade.”

            • so saddened

              lol, fred!

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Is that why it’s hanging up? I had trouble, anyway.

      They used to do that a lot at HuffPo, changing the name just slightly.

      I still don’t get this troll deal. Why would anyone enjoy such an activity?

      • karen for Clinton

        That’s how I got my name and have stuck with it the past 5 months. They used to use my name all the time and pretend to be me on small groups where it was easy for me to know it was my name they had hijacked. They wouldn’t use this name during the primary. I should swith the name again to something like “Hillary or McCain”, a sure fire copy proof name for ob miscreants.

  • so saddened

    larry, i’m seeing posts saying they’re harp or podvet or dawnelle or whoever, reciting the same lines and sounding like obamatrolls.

    either these good people all had the same magic conversion at the same time and dreamt up the same words, or we’ve once again seen hackers take over other peoples’ id’s.

    could you check into this?

    btw, i saw a post on another site, using harp’s name, and saying stuff that really didn’t sound like harp. i think it’s spreading.

  • Yo

    DON’T FORGET TO SIGN THIS PETITION TO THE DNC THAT WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA! Confirm the vote through your e-mail account.

    WE NEED thousands of signatures to show our strength. Please take time to sign the petition. There are only 261 signatures on it. Let’s make it thousands.

    http://clintondems.com/no-vote-petition/

    • Five Thirty

      I think it would also be good to have a petition like this in another month to show that the righteous indignation is not going away.

      • karen for Clinton

        ha, not till the last dog dies.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    This is a clear case of how the media colluded with a candidate. Every endorsement was trumpeted as though it was the biggest story ever. Her volumes of endorsement were never mentioned. Every poll that showed him climbing was heralded. Her poll numbers were minimized when she was ahead. Every gaffe she made was turned into a major story. His frequent lies were hardly mentioned.

    What bothered me the most, however, was the DNC’s collusion with the media. Howard Dean got on the circuit to bully her out of the race. Thank God, she stood on principle and made her case by winning those key states. Otherwise, she’d have gone down in history as the reason he lost.

    Now, they simply cannot say that. She told them.

    They saw the votes. They saw her record. They jumped to support him anyway.

    They get to eat this one. It’s going to be a huge plate of crow, I predict.

    • LN

      Hey AnninCa, I see you got your name back! Mine was briefly stolen too.

      Yes, this election is going to be a veritable Crow Eating Festival…let’s see, how many ways can we fix ‘em…crow fritters, crow stew, crow pancakes, crow casserole, crow milkshakes, crow quiche…

      let me count the ways.

  • catherine

    We need to print a list of all the DNC scum that were behind this assault on Democracy from the beginning and what states they represent.

    The 18 million are not just voting against Nobama we’re also going to vote against the thugs that are destroying our party.

    I know Ed O’ Reilly is going to challege Kerry this year. Does anyone know if one can contribute to O’Reilly’s campaign although one does’nt live in MA?

    This is the year that we will teach those thugs a lesson they won’t soon forget!

    IMPORTANT!!! FL residents don’t forget the following names that need to be voted out of office.

    1. U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler (this asswipe Obama supporter pushed to give Floridians only HALF a vote at the RBC!)

    2.State Rep. Joyce Cusack, DeLand

  • dwilson

    The 24/7 news cycle full of pundits and hacks who landed George Bush in the White House with their characterization of him as the “kind of guy you’d like to have a beer with,” and who could not wait to get the war started and did everything in their power to rubber stamp and push the merits of it, has now succeeded in pushing an inexperienced, unelectable smooth talker to the top of the Democratic ticket.

    The so-called “uniter/post-racial” candidate, Obama, they would have us embrace, has brought racism to the forefront through the rants and raves of his white-hating, anti-American spiritual advisor, whose church Obama supported for 20+ years, and Obama has insulted working class people, whom he’s accused of being bitter and clinging to guns and religion. He’s made Jews fearful with his Hamas-supportive foreign policy advisor (Robert Malley), not to mention again –his church which published the Hamas Manifesto, and finally Obama has demeaned women with his arrogant treatment of Hillary, telling her she’s “likable enough” and accusing her (one who has devoted her whole life to the support of civil rights) as being racist.

    Add to those concerns his friendship with a domestic terrorist (William Ayers) who hosted a fundraiser for Obama, not to mention Obama’s long-time friendship with recently convicted slumlord king, Tony Rezko, who helped Obama finance his million dollar mansion. Of course, there’s also his long-time friendship with Rashid Khalidi a, radical associated with the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) and the late Yassir Arafat, and then there’s his own wife’s who wrote her thesis in support of black liberation philosophy. You do the math.

    Welcome to four more years of Republican administration because there is no way the voters in this country are going to put Barack Obama in the White House. I’m a Democrat, but given the choice, I feel safer with McCain as president.

    • LN

      yes, you and 18 million other ripped-off disgruntled Democratic voters.

      Payback time in November!

      • GammaSigmer

        Yeah! Payback time! I vote 2 ways – ballot and contributions. None to DNC,DSCC,DCCC or Obama-riders! Looking for a double negative payback.

  • Stray

    Obama will win and America will end. The attempt to control what we see and think is just getting started. The new Presidential powers that bush enacted will be strengthened and enforced by Obama to his theological ends. Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton is the only candidate that even mentioned turning from those presidential controls. She has been for all Americans. Obama has not. She has the record of fighting for Americans. Obama has a record fighting for? Obama wins America ends. Bush set it up Barack Hussein Obama will finish it.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Too gloomy there…..*yikes!*

      Into solutions. Boot the traitors out. Now, we KNOW the truth.

      That’s a dang advantage. I never dreamed the party was filled with such trash.

  • street_parade

    If California is not in play, I’ll leave the top spot blank. If it is in play, I’ll hold my nose harder than I have ever held it before and vote for the lesser of two evils, only THIS time it will be the Republican’s name I choose.

  • barborka08

    I make up my mined , that I will fallow and support Hillary and CONTRIBUTE to, and now I must fallow mu guts, and that is why I can not and will not support Obama.
    DNC , Haward Dean,Nancy Pelosi,Read,Richardson, I will not give them any satisfaction. They sell Democratic Party to someone like Obama. His pass is so ugly, how any one can trust this man. I am not for sale, stay with me. Frieds, those real Friend, will not live, especjally when times are rough, and all those who left Hillary, because Haeard Dean sid to US, are just snakes. She should never loose, but those who left Her, because someone told them to do so, are worthless, and didnt deserve my vote foe their own gain. NO WAY!!!! How any one can fallow someone, because He said, that He is a good man, and HE is now!!!

  • Tyrione

    The disconnect between the White House job and the Currency Exchange is clear by the comments from that story’s original site.

    The Federal Reserve manages the rates, folks.

  • jjran

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS NOT FIT TO BE PRESIDENT OF USA….(MAYBE KENYA)
    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS UNQUALIFIED

  • Ann Shaw

    Hillary Clinton and her supporters can be very proud of their accomplishments in this primary. She’s achieved historic status as someone who transcended the title “politician” and has become a stateswoman, appealing to voters across the board. Pastor Manning’s video highlighted that as well as the media-corruption in evidence throughout the primary.

    What the media takes away from this primary is the unending contempt of their viewers. I know I’ve stopped watching cable news. The media were as vicious as those two Chicago attack dogs, Wright and Pfleger. What a spectacle!

    • so saddened

      ann, agree re cable. also suggest you add nbc to the list. they’re in it just as deep as their msnbc counterparts. especially russert and his gang.

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    Should Hope-a-Dope win, we can also expect a rise in plain, nasty old racism in this country. Some people wanting to, “finally get theirs and dish out some payback,” and a lot of, “Gettin’ TIRED of this shit.”

    Michelle is the Recruiting Poster Girl for the Klan, and people who like them.

    • Nyetobama

      This comment is bad, but it is real, and was made innocently to me by my 4 year old grandson:

      Early in the campaign, before I stopped watching cable news, Michell Obama appeared on the screen giving one of her fiery speeches to Obama nuts.

      My grandson walked by just as she was in one of her scowls and said: “Papa that lady looks mean, she looks just like one of those old bad piranha fish. Turn it off Papa she is scary.”

      Out of the mouths of babes, oft times comes wisdom!

  • Dreffein

    Larry – I’d like help to organize a boycott against MSNBC, Newsweek and their advertisers. Can you help me to get this started. Let’s hit them where it hurts!

    • JavaCity

      There already is a boycott against MSNBC and NBC. It’s online and taking names.

      Sorry, I don’t have a link.

      • Dreffein

        Yeah but until we hit the advertisers, it won’t hit them in the pocket. Thank you, however for the info, the post below has a linK!

    • JavaCity

      womenboycottmsnbc dot com

  • skmf12

    OKAY, CAN ANYONE HERE ANSWER AN IMPORTANT QUESTION
    PLEASE?

    is a no vote, is a write in vote for hillary in
    novemeber, a wasted vote, or what?

    i want to vote mccain, to be sure my vote competes
    with barack obamas, but others are saying if you
    just write in hillary clinton, it still cancels
    out obamas vote,
    i dont believe that, so anybody with an answer
    could you tell me how it works?

    • JavaCity

      Every state has different voting rules. Go to your state web site and make sure you know what is allowed.

      Some states do not allow write-in voting at all

      Some states restrict write-in votes to only candidates who didn’t compete in the primaries

      Some states reject the ballot if the Presidential vote wasn’t cast, so none of your votes count.

      The only place you can get your answers accurately is from your own state officials.

    • so saddened

      some states have different rules about write in votes – some even give them to the candidate you don’t want, if he’s on the ballot.

      however, a vote for mccain counts TWICE as much against obama as a write in vote.

      example:

      if there are 10 voters and 4 like obama and 3 like mccain and 3 like hillary, but only obama’s and mccain’s names are on the ballot. and 4 vote for obama and 3 vote mccain and the 3 write in hillary.
      obama wins. but if the 3 hillary people would rather have mccain than obama and they vote mccain, obama still has his 4 and now mccain has 6 and mccain wins.

      simple example, but illustrates the point – a write in vote for hillary doesn’t help defeat obama. it doesn’t cancel out anything. the only way to do that is vote mccain.

  • skmf12

    java city,

    thank you!

  • JavaCity

    SELF-DISCIPLINE REQUIRED

    I just went to the msn.com site (it’s my home page) and noticed one of the key articles is from NEWSWEEK Magazine. The headline suggests Clinton’s next battle will be with depression.

    Resist the temptation to click on that article. Most homepages will probably have it posted there.

    Stop letting these people trash Hillary. She’s stronger than that, and they need to cease their wishes for bad things to befall her. Hillary may go through some disappointed sadness, but it is none of NEWSWEEK’s business if she does.

    The article is going to be purely speculation composition, they sure aren’t reporting anything factual.

    RESIST
    . It’s a good place to start learning to turn your head away from the accident. Just drive by.

    • so saddened

      also, don’t want to reward bad sites by giving them the click counts. that gives them money from advertising dollars. if nobody clicks, they get no advertisers and they get no money.

      we all know that’s all they care about anyway.

  • CognitiveDissonance

    skmf12, a vote for McCain is like 2 votes for a 3rd party or write-in candidate. Every vote for McCain is a vote he doesn’t get, plus one for his biggest rival. That is the best way to keep him from winning.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I’m probably going to insult many of you, but I have to be honest. The viewers who constantly watched the shows and got upset were just as responsible as Matthews.

    Why did you guys watch that jerk and worry so much over what he said? I could tell just watching 1 time that he in an unintelligent ranter with a nice baritone voice. That’s all.

    Then days of posting about what he said would ensue.

    You who did that are as responsible as he was. You played the game. You gave him the power.

    Now, for the life of me, I can’t figure out why.

  • Zimeeisme

    The pundits say the same things over and over again. Clinton’s supporters are just “grieving”, they will get over it and fall into line. One even suggested that 17.9 million of the 18 million will vote for Obama.

    I say…what are THEY smoking? Of course for quite some time I have been asking myself about the Obamabots…what are THEY drinking? Already there are many who are just going to take it up the a$$ and vote for Obama, even though they will never feel quite right about it.

    I just do not get and suppose that I never will. It seems that for many, when the media says something, they fall for it. Maybe there are subliminal messages and some of us just aren’t susceptible to them. Maybe there are many Americans that do their research and have discovered that Obama really does not bring much to the table, other than looking different from our past presidential candidates.

    I knew that there was something not quite right with George W and I see many more red flags with Obama. I just cannot in good conscience vote for him with what I already know about this man.

    Why are people so stuck on party unity? Do they not look at history? Party politics is the reason why nothing ever gets done.

    I will keep shaking my head until November, and maybe for 4 long years.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Your perspective is what I’ve always thought. It’s not some media conspiracy. It’s strictly to stir up trouble for ratings.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      A lot of people will get over it and are just mad and upset right now.

      I do admit to having a good ole’ boo-hoo when she made her speech. Felt a lot better after that.

      I adore Hillary, but honestly, she’s not my mother or my dog or my kid. So my grief doesn’t go so deep. It’s just an election, for heaven’s sakes.

      We’ve survived many bad presidents nicely. I’m not even one who thinks they have a lot of power. I think Bush tapped into people and got his war. Without public opinion behind him? He’d never have gotten it.

      Ditto for either Obama or McCain. They won’t get to first base on much without public support.

      So I can take my time and listen to them both and see what my gut tells me about McCain. I’m frankly not too happy about any man who uses the “C” word. That is just a big no-no to me, anyway. Maybe I’m prissy, but it spells a kind of dark side that I don’t like. I know for sure about Obama’s stuff now having watched him closely. He’s a jerk.

      So which is the bigger jerk? LOL*

      Gee, how many times in my life have I been here????

      I got to vote once for someone I adored and he won.

  • sc341

    Obama is really good at reading a teleprompter, that’s about it. In other words, when he is giving a speech, he is giving a performance, like a rock star. He is an empty suit. Hillary totally kicked his butt in the debates, she also gave a tough debate to Bill O’Reilly. She has shown herself to be a tenacious fighter, smart, polished and she thinks on her feet. I will not be voting for Obama in November, I think he is the biggest phony typical politician ever. He would throw his wife under the bus to win the Presidency. Also, I believe his wife is really filled with resentment, read her Princeton thesis on dontvoteobama.net

  • Three Wickets

    SMACK NBC – JEFF ZUCKER IS A MISOGYNIST

    I’ve said it before, the best way to hurt NBC for all its indiscretions is to brand the line “Jeff Zucker is a Misogynist” over and over and over again. He is the CEO at NBC Universal, and I know he has personally been pulling all the strings on the Obama bias. They could care less about politics. The are in last place in the ratings war, and they desperately want the Obama demographic, nevermind its effect on reteaching sexism to this nation thru the national media, with Hillary as the whipping post. The damage may have been done, but make them pay. Don’t let them get away with this.

    Picket with big signs at 30 Rockefellar Center in NY that says “Jeff Zucker is a Misogynist”. Or picket outside Fox and Friends ground floor studio window where they tape live. As a competitor, I am sure they will oblige with some MSM coverage. Email him directly at jeff.zucker@nbcuni.com or jeff zucker@nbc.com. Or call NBC at (212) 664-4444 and ask for Jeff Zucker’s office (use a name, and say you are calling from Warner Brothers, Paramount, Viacom, Miramax, CAA, William Morris, etc). You will at least get to his assistant, blow off steam, say “Jeff Zucker is a Misogynist”. Maybe find some athletes going to the Beijing Olympics who would be willing to join in the chorus. That is Jeff and NBC’s most valuable property. Anything that swirls in the Olympics mass media leading up to the Games about Jeff Zucker’s Misogyny during the Hillary primaries, that would really make him bleed, along with Olbermann, Matthews, Barnicle, Shuster, and the rest.

    Does not have to be complicated. “Jeff Zucker is a Misogynist” as a branded concept in the mass media is the goal. It just takes message consistency, frequency, persistance. Look for NBC’s media rivals for receptivity, Fox, CNN, ABC, CBS, WSJ, USA Today.

    There are too many women and men within NBC who have been depressed and demoralized by this. If we do this, with enough numbers and persistance, sometime over the summer, “Wolfson will come out with a statement saying, “We don’t believe Jeff Zucker is a misogynist. We think he’s a profiteer.”

    In the lead up to Denver, Hillary needs our help taming NBC and conveying a warning shot to all the other media who’ve been piling on without restraint. Whether there is a convention vote or not depends very much on media coverage of the candidates over the summer. Barack has been so coddled, it’s nauseating. Hillary has been so bashed, it’s unfair. But she rarely complained. This media trend has not been about a national referendum on post-racial, progressive America, as some would have you believe. It has been about money. Young affluents have it. Older working class Americans don’t. Advertisers want the former.

    Let’s do this. “Jeff Zucker is a Misogynist”.

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  • LN

    Yes, I think I’ll take what your candidate said and go out in the morning and invite some of the leaders of the most brutal governments in the world to breakfast at my house “without precondition.”

  • Marc Degler

    Barack Obama stated about Hillary Clinton during the campaign, “She is not to be trusted”.

    So I will take Barack Obama at his word, and I will not trust Hillary when she states Barack Obama is the best candidate and to vote for Barack Obama. My vote will go for a true American war hero and maverick, Senator John McCain.

  • kenoshaMarge

    How long are you jerks gonna keep whining about winning? You won. Okay? Why come over here and argue with people that don’t agree with you, never have agreed with you and never will agree with you? Are you that in need of a little attention?

    No one here is going to agree with you. No one here is going to vote for Obama. Get over it. You won, now scurry back to whatever rock you crawled out from under and enjoy your victory.

  • Strawberry

    That’s the best you got? Look “PORTIA”, we were there during the 90′s, it was great, peace, stability, real hope. Don’t tell us how it was. We remember. Hillary took on a republican ruled congress and senate when she introduced her healtcare plan. She had balls. And we remember the fact that the Clintons had to deal with Newt Gingrinch because the stupid young people back then forgot to vote in down ticket elections. They got Bill elected and forget to support him by maintaining a democratic house and senate, you young people suck at that and Barky will receive the same treatment from you when he doesn’t legalize pot or stop global warming.