Comments on: Love this guy! (& open thread) http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/ Sun, 27 May 2012 07:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: OWG http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241318 OWG Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:19:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241318 As writer and author Larry Schweikart has chillingly documented, Obama’s monstrous “healthcare” Bill includes, among hundreds of other horrors: Page 22: A mandate for the Government to audit the books of all employers that self insure. Pg 30: A Government committee that will decide what treatments/benefits a person may receive. Pg 42: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You will have no choice! Pg 50: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise. Pg 58: Government will have real-time access to an individual’s finances and a National ID Healthcard will be issued! Pg 59: Government will have direct access to your bank accounts. Pg 65: Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions and community organizations like ACORN. PG 85: The Government will ration your Healthcare! Pg 95: The Government will use groups, i.e. ACORN & Americorps, to sign up individuals for Government HC plan. PG 85: Specifics of Benefit Levels for AARP members - your Health care WILL be rationed. pg 124: No company can sue Government on price fixing and there can be no “judicial review” against Government Monopoly. Pg 145: An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE. Pg 126: Employers MUST pay for healthcare for part time employees AND their families. Pg 149: ANY Employer with payroll $400k & above who does not provide public option pays 8 percent tax on all payroll. pg 150: Businesses with payroll between $251k & $400k that don’t provide public option pay 2-6 percent tax on all payroll. Pg 167 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed 2.5 percent of income. Pg 170: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay). Pg 195: Officers & employees of the Healthcare Administration (the GOVERNMENT) will have access to ALL Americans’ finances and personal records. PG 203: “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.” Yes, it says that. Pg 239: Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected. Pg 241: Doctors—doesn’t matter what specialty—will all be paid the same. PG 253: Government sets value of Doctor’s time, professional judgment, etc.—literally, the value of humans. PG 272: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing! Pg 317-318: Government will mandate that hospitals cannot expand. Pg 354: Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people! PG 425: Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations for seniors‚Ķ end-of-life prodding. Pg 425: Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory! PG 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in how to die. PG 429: “Advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life! PG 430: The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life. Pg 469: Community-Based Home Medical Services/Non-profit orgs. (ACORN Medical Services here?) Pg 494-498: Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services. As writer and author Larry Schweikart has chillingly documented, Obama’s monstrous “healthcare” Bill includes, among hundreds of other horrors:
Page 22: A mandate for the Government to audit the books of all employers that self insure.
Pg 30: A Government committee that will decide what treatments/benefits a person may receive.
Pg 42: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You will have no choice!
Pg 50: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise.
Pg 58: Government will have real-time access to an individual’s finances and a National ID Healthcard will be issued!
Pg 59: Government will have direct access to your bank accounts.
Pg 65: Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions and community organizations like ACORN.
PG 85: The Government will ration your Healthcare!
Pg 95: The Government will use groups, i.e. ACORN & Americorps, to sign up individuals for Government HC plan.
PG 85: Specifics of Benefit Levels for AARP members – your Health care WILL be rationed.
pg 124: No company can sue Government on price fixing and there can be no “judicial review” against Government Monopoly.
Pg 145: An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE.
Pg 126: Employers MUST pay for healthcare for part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149: ANY Employer with payroll $400k & above who does not provide public option pays 8 percent tax on all payroll.
pg 150: Businesses with payroll between $251k & $400k that don’t provide public option pay 2-6 percent tax on all payroll.
Pg 167 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed 2.5 percent of income.
Pg 170: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay).
Pg 195: Officers & employees of the Healthcare Administration (the GOVERNMENT) will have access to ALL Americans’ finances and personal records.
PG 203: “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.” Yes, it says that.
Pg 239: Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.
Pg 241: Doctors—doesn’t matter what specialty—will all be paid the same.
PG 253: Government sets value of Doctor’s time, professional judgment, etc.—literally, the value of humans.
PG 272: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing!
Pg 317-318: Government will mandate that hospitals cannot expand.
Pg 354: Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!
PG 425: Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations for seniors… end-of-life prodding.
Pg 425: Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!
PG 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in how to die.
PG 429: “Advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life!
PG 430: The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.
Pg 469: Community-Based Home Medical Services/Non-profit orgs. (ACORN Medical Services here?)
Pg 494-498: Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.

]]> By: Seattle Moss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241144 Seattle Moss Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:10:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241144 <blockquote>At what threshold would 8% penalties be considered a “cost of doing business”?</blockquote> You crafted the question rather well. I will ask him in the morning and get back to you. Interesting as a Hillary supporter I was completely behind her version of Healthcare. I was supportive and not in fear. The big problem today...Our currency! Obama's failing because he is anti-business at a time when they need a break during a severe recession. Socialist's don't understand that if you break the dollar the least of your worries will be healthcare as a loaf of bread could cost in the thousands.

At what threshold would 8% penalties be considered a “cost of doing business”?

You crafted the question rather well. I will ask him in the morning and get back to you.
Interesting as a Hillary supporter I was completely behind her version of Healthcare.
I was supportive and not in fear.
The big problem today…Our currency!

Obama’s failing because he is anti-business at a time when they need a break during a severe recession.
Socialist’s don’t understand that if you break the dollar the least of your worries will be healthcare as a loaf of bread could cost in the thousands.

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241134 TeakWoodKite Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:59:32 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241134 <em>I’m still clueless on what this socialized system will bring...</em> This is exactly what I am concerned about. 1600 is not clearly communicating what is in this bill, and as a result it causes a lack of support and dare I say mistrust and resentment even before getting to the meat of the BBQ? I admire the fact you have decreased the costs, but as you say your CFO has thier shit together and plays the vendors. At what threshold would 8% penalties be considered a "cost of doing business"? If the goverment is going to drmatically change the nature of the "risk pool" and undercut "private" healthcare, would not make your CFO's job more difficult and with more costs and less choices? I’m still clueless on what this socialized system will bring…

This is exactly what I am concerned about.
1600 is not clearly communicating what is in this bill, and as a result it causes a lack of support and dare I say mistrust and resentment even before getting to the meat of the BBQ?

I admire the fact you have decreased the costs, but as you say your CFO has thier shit together and plays the vendors.

At what threshold would 8% penalties be considered a “cost of doing business”?
If the goverment is going to drmatically change the nature of the “risk pool” and undercut “private” healthcare, would not make your CFO’s job more difficult and with more costs and less choices?

]]> By: Seattle Moss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241124 Seattle Moss Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:39:05 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241124 Hey Teak, Glad I checked in to see your post. Our company provides the best health care available and the CFO spends much time finding the right coverage each year. Whether it be Aetna, United Healthcare or others each has to compete for our business. As a result premiums have gone down each year for the past five years. Hard to believe for some I guess. As a result of providing full medical,dental and eye care we have the lowest turnover in the industry. In fact we are family, because most have been with the company over 7 years. After 5 years the company picks up the complete tab for the weekly amount for the employees. Our employees also have the option to not have any healthcare plan and some of the under 30 crowd decide to do just that. Considering that I'm still clueless on what this socialized system will bring in my gut I know it's going to be a burden and reduce our margins and increase our prices. Hey Teak,
Glad I checked in to see your post.
Our company provides the best health care available and the CFO spends much time finding the right coverage each year. Whether it be Aetna, United Healthcare or others each has to compete for our business. As a result premiums have gone down each year for the past five years. Hard to believe for some I guess.
As a result of providing full medical,dental and eye care we have the lowest turnover in the industry. In fact we are family, because most have been with the company over 7 years.
After 5 years the company picks up the complete tab for the weekly amount for the employees. Our employees also have the option to not have any healthcare plan and some of the under 30 crowd decide to do just that.
Considering that I’m still clueless on what this socialized system will bring in my gut I know it’s going to be a burden and reduce our margins and increase our prices.

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241111 TeakWoodKite Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:17:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241111 Good day to you. Seattle, I respect those who by there actions show a respect for the constitution and the oath they took to defend it. As President, Bill Clinton personally went to bat for my dad and my step mom over health care coverage, which they paid dearly for. My step mom had cancer and was being refused coverage for what the doctors at Sloan were recommending. He went to Moynahan first and then President Clinton took up my dads issue after Moynahan's office brought it to his attention. He cared, it was resolved. Next we see former President Clinton do what Obama is incapable of, getting two American citizens out of North Korea. Now some may argue that it was a political error but the bottom line for him was to "leave no one behind", a concept that is foreign to BO. Now people might argue that BO made all this happen behind the scenes, then why did his White House distance themselves from these efforts? SOS Clinton was at WTC on 9/12th making efforts like everyone else, she looked after the people that are being denied care from this event in our history. There are any number of other examples in her portfolio of action, born of intellectual honesty and true grit, that confirms what many "critical thinking" Americans and world leaders know. Might I add Senator Whitehouse to this list? BO? It was reported he was driving to his paperless state senate office. He did NOTHING. BO is an immoral fraud. He would rather profit personally, than make ANY attempts to not have his constituents freeze their asses of in a Chicago winter. When asked about it, and claim ignorance and that he did not know his charges were suffering at the same hands he was profiting by, makes me NOT trust ANYTHING he says OR does. And this fool thinks I will trust my "health care life" to his BS? Wouldn't be prudent!, but then BO has been doing a lot of "read my lips" since Jan 21st. ---- I am curious Seattle, from your perspective, how you would deal with the healthcare you provide to your employees? Or is there not enough information available for you to plan accordingly? If you are forced to pay the 8% penalty, and your "private" healthcare cost are more expensive than the 8%, would not a straight forward calculation be to pay the 8 percent and have the employees go the "Public" route? I am not suggesting, as I know you care about your employees, that you would make this choice, but as a whole many would given the same set of circumstances. What say you? Good day to you. Seattle, I respect those who by there actions show a respect for the constitution and the oath they took to defend it.
As President, Bill Clinton personally went to bat for my dad and my step mom over health care coverage, which they paid dearly for. My step mom had cancer and was being refused coverage for what the doctors at Sloan were recommending. He went to Moynahan first and then President Clinton took up my dads issue after Moynahan’s office brought it to his attention. He cared, it was resolved.

Next we see former President Clinton do what Obama is incapable of, getting two American citizens out of North Korea. Now some may argue that it was a political error but the bottom line for him was to “leave no one behind”, a concept that is foreign to BO. Now people might argue that BO made all this happen behind the scenes, then why did his White House distance themselves from these efforts?
SOS Clinton was at WTC on 9/12th making efforts like everyone else, she looked after the people that are being denied care from this event in our history. There are any number of other examples in her portfolio of action, born of intellectual honesty and true grit, that confirms what many “critical thinking” Americans and world leaders know.

Might I add Senator Whitehouse to this list? BO? It was reported he was driving to his paperless state senate office. He did NOTHING.

BO is an immoral fraud. He would rather profit personally, than make ANY attempts to not have his constituents freeze their asses of in a Chicago winter. When asked about it, and claim ignorance and that he did not know his charges were suffering at the same hands he was profiting by, makes me NOT trust ANYTHING he says OR does. And this fool thinks I will trust my “health care life” to his BS?

Wouldn’t be prudent!, but then BO has been doing a lot of “read my lips” since Jan 21st.
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I am curious Seattle, from your perspective, how you would deal with the healthcare you provide to your employees? Or is there not enough information available for you to plan accordingly? If you are forced to pay the 8% penalty, and your “private” healthcare cost are more expensive than the 8%, would not a straight forward calculation be to pay the 8 percent and have the employees go the “Public” route? I am not suggesting, as I know you care about your employees, that you would make this choice, but as a whole many would given the same set of circumstances.

What say you?

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241075 Ferd Berfle Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:54:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241075 <blockquote>I don’t care about being right. I just want to save my country and capitalism.</blockquote> I heartily agree with the second but I am also concerned with being right. For too long we've allowed people who are wrong to control things. Being wrong is equivalent to being incompetent in my view.

I don’t care about being right.
I just want to save my country and capitalism.

I heartily agree with the second but I am also concerned with being right. For too long we’ve allowed people who are wrong to control things. Being wrong is equivalent to being incompetent in my view.

]]> By: Seattle Moss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241073 Seattle Moss Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:46:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241073 Ferd, As they say... If I had a dollar for every time I said.. I told you so!! I don't care about being right. I just want to save my country and capitalism. Ferd,
As they say…

If I had a dollar for every time I said..
I told you so!!

I don’t care about being right.
I just want to save my country and capitalism.

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241065 Ferd Berfle Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:27:57 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241065 Small consolation but it feels good to say, "We told you so". Small consolation but it feels good to say, “We told you so”.

]]> By: Thinker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241056 Thinker Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:12:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241056 I always knew that we would be. It was about WHEN it would happen, not IF it would happen. I always knew that we would be. It was about WHEN it would happen, not IF it would happen.

]]> By: Thinker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241049 Thinker Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:04:05 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241049 As someone said earlier, "Now THAT'S a President!!" Job well done Bill. As someone said earlier, “Now THAT’S a President!!”

Job well done Bill.

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241048 Ferd Berfle Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:02:55 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241048 There is a HUGE meltdown over at HuffnPuffPo. Apparently the <strike>Healthcare</strike> Death bill is not going over too well. LMAO. <strong>The PUMAS are vindicated</strong> There is a HUGE meltdown over at HuffnPuffPo. Apparently the Healthcare Death bill is not going over too well. LMAO.

The PUMAS are vindicated

]]> By: I'm a Linda too http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1241015 I'm a Linda too Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:16:01 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1241015 That is just so great. I'm so happy, he is so deserving ... and much more. That is just so great. I’m so happy, he is so deserving … and much more.

]]> By: SEIU??? http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1240927 SEIU??? Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:39:39 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1240927 tzada it might have been better to post the headline part of the sweetness and light story <em><strong>In a shameless display of Olympian chutzpah, the SEIU is pretending to be the innocent victims of townhall violence at their website:</strong></em> Instead what you did post was mostly from the SEIU site... Here are the videos they are talking about== I wonder who is picking on who.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWnxlFbYjVY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqpfU_AC7Ls&feature=related tzada it might have been better to post the headline part of the sweetness and light story In a shameless display of Olympian chutzpah, the SEIU is pretending to be the innocent victims of townhall violence at their website:

Instead what you did post was mostly from the SEIU site…
Here are the videos they are talking about== I wonder who is picking on who..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWnxlFbYjVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqpfU_AC7Ls&feature=related

]]> By: ConfusedAmerican http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1240892 ConfusedAmerican Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:16:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1240892 Tzada everyone knows who started the fight. And you are coming on here asking people to sign a petition on an SEIU Union site. It would be interesting to see where the SEIU people who started the fight were actually from. Where the SEIU members even from that representative's district or state. Tzada everyone knows who started the fight. And you are coming on here asking people to sign a petition on an SEIU Union site.

It would be interesting to see where the SEIU people who started the fight were actually from. Where the SEIU members even from that representative’s district or state.

]]> By: tzada http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/29936/love-this-guy-open-thread/#comment-1240883 tzada Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:00:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29936#comment-1240883 Did you see this? <strong>Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected</strong> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-cia-interrogate9-2009aug09,0,34626.story Did you see this?

Criminal investigation into CIA treatment of detainees expected

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-cia-interrogate9-2009aug09,0,34626.story

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