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		<title>By: Charles Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-749599</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the New York Times, Democrats blocked Bush’s Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reforms so low income people with bad credit could buy houses.
&#039;&#039;These two entities -Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, and the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.&#039;&#039; said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. 
http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/09/democrats-blocked-bushs-fannie-mae-and.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the New York Times, Democrats blocked Bush’s Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reforms so low income people with bad credit could buy houses.<br />
&#8221;These two entities -Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac &#8211; are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, and the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.&#8221; said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.<br />
<a href="http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/09/democrats-blocked-bushs-fannie-mae-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/09/democrats-blocked-bushs-fannie-mae-and.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Right On</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-344872</link>
		<dc:creator>Right On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh So Saddened, I don&#039;t know either. But ain&#039;t it such a steamin&#039; pile o&#039;fun to hate the guy so much? Thank the Good Lord we got us this support community here for all us fellow haters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh So Saddened, I don&#8217;t know either. But ain&#8217;t it such a steamin&#8217; pile o&#8217;fun to hate the guy so much? Thank the Good Lord we got us this support community here for all us fellow haters!</p>
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		<title>By: Right On</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-344789</link>
		<dc:creator>Right On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yawn</description>
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		<title>By: lightacandle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-342278</link>
		<dc:creator>lightacandle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Julius&quot;:

If John McCain were to win the presidency, he would be a very WEAK president vis a vis Congress for a few reasons.

One, he has already said he would run for only one term.  Single-term presidents or presidents in their second term are historically weak presidents vis a vis Congress, because they are not seeking re-election and that means their power to rule is diminished.  In saying right at the start that he would be president for only one term, McCain would start out weak and remain weak vis a vis Congress.

Two, we already have a Congress in the control of the Democratic Party and as things look now, their numbers in Congress will only increase, and their clout will increase along with their increased numbers.

Three, McCain, as a Republican, would not fare well dealing with a Congress that is in the control of the Democrats, and I might add those Democrats will be feeling their oats and will not be the wimps they have been with Bush. The Democrats have had slender majorities and have acted as if they were even weaker than they actually are.  But that will change as their numbers increase.

Four, John McCain comes out of the senate, having put in long years in the senate, and he has deep and abiding respect for the senate and Congress in general. He would not be the arrogant, horse&#039;s rear Bush has been with regard to the Constitutional responsibilities of Congress.

- - - - - -

Now, on the other hand, if Barack Obama were to be elected president, he would have a Democratic Congress that would lie down on the floor like a rug and let Obama walk all over them and have everything his way. Congress would be back to being useless, cowering wimps -- especially since Obama likes to wield the cudgel of accusing anyone who criticizes him, or questions him, or hinders his agenda, of being a RACIST.

Some of the Obama supporters might think it a good thing that the inexperienced, know-not-much, low-accomplishment Obama had everything his way -- but it TERRIFIES me for some the reasons here, which are based on the OBAMA MYTHS

 -- Obama voted to fund the Iraq war after telling everyone he would never vote to fund the Iraq war.

 -- Obama says he&#039;s pro-choice but as an Illinois State Senator, Barack Obama took the coward&#039;s way out and did not vote either &quot;yes&quot; or &quot;no&quot; when &quot;choice&quot; issues came up for a vote.   Instead, he voted &quot;present&quot; on seven abortion bills, including a ban on &quot;partial birth abortion,&quot; two parental notification laws and three &quot;born alive&quot; bills.  In each case, the right vote was clear, but Senator Obama chose political cover over standing and fighting for his convictions.  http://www.illinoisnow.org

 -- Obama said he&#039;s against NAFTA, but voted to EXPAND and EXTEND  it.

 -- Obama said he&#039;s opposed to the Patriot Act but voted to RENEW it.

 -- Obama says he wants everyone covered with healthcare insurance, but Obama  CAVED  to the Health industry lobbyists in Illinois and deprived Illinois residents of universal heathcare and, in his own presidential plan, he  LEAVES OUT  FIFTEEN  MILLION people from having health coverage.

 -- Obama voted &lt;strong&gt;&quot;FOR&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; Dick Cheney&#039;s ENERGY bill allowing the drilling and mining interests to drill and mine to their heart&#039;s content, raping the American environment in their lust for money for themselves.

~  ~  ~
A President Obama, unrestricted by a subservient Congress would be a menace on the loose.

I would prefer a WEAK and RESTRICTED (by Congress)  President McCain to an UN-restricted, CORPORATE LOBBYIST-CONTROLLED, anti-America minister-loving, unrepentant terrorist-loving,  accepting NO responsibility for anything,  run-a-muck, NO experience with foreign affairs and NO knowledge of economic issues, President Obama any day.

And I do not want a First Lady who, for the first time in American history, hates the MAJORITY of its citizens based on the fact we are white -- or, as she calls us, &quot;whitey.&quot;

And I do not want a president who has hidden behind the shield of his race to win this election.

I do not want a president who uses race as a CUDGEL with which to beat anyone who dares to mention that Obama has NO experience or knowledge of foreign affairs and NO experience or knowledge of economic issues, and that his campaign has been filled with CORPORATE  LOBBYISTS  just licking their lips for their Main Chance once Obama is installed in the White House.

In America these days, we don&#039;t have  press corps that is worth much more than a bucket of warm spit;  but with a President Obama, the reporters, journalists and columnists would be even MORE servile and terrified to say one negative thing about Obama for fear of being called RACIST or worse.

There would BE  NO  criticism  ALLOWED  of a President Obama.

At least with a President McCain, we would be free to criticize.

But not with a President Obama.

And, most important, a Democratic-controlled Congress would NOT let McCain do much of anything; he would HAVE to compromise on just about everything.

Checks and balances with McCain.

NO  Congressional check or balance with Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Julius&#8221;:</p>
<p>If John McCain were to win the presidency, he would be a very WEAK president vis a vis Congress for a few reasons.</p>
<p>One, he has already said he would run for only one term.  Single-term presidents or presidents in their second term are historically weak presidents vis a vis Congress, because they are not seeking re-election and that means their power to rule is diminished.  In saying right at the start that he would be president for only one term, McCain would start out weak and remain weak vis a vis Congress.</p>
<p>Two, we already have a Congress in the control of the Democratic Party and as things look now, their numbers in Congress will only increase, and their clout will increase along with their increased numbers.</p>
<p>Three, McCain, as a Republican, would not fare well dealing with a Congress that is in the control of the Democrats, and I might add those Democrats will be feeling their oats and will not be the wimps they have been with Bush. The Democrats have had slender majorities and have acted as if they were even weaker than they actually are.  But that will change as their numbers increase.</p>
<p>Four, John McCain comes out of the senate, having put in long years in the senate, and he has deep and abiding respect for the senate and Congress in general. He would not be the arrogant, horse&#8217;s rear Bush has been with regard to the Constitutional responsibilities of Congress.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - &#8211; - -</p>
<p>Now, on the other hand, if Barack Obama were to be elected president, he would have a Democratic Congress that would lie down on the floor like a rug and let Obama walk all over them and have everything his way. Congress would be back to being useless, cowering wimps &#8212; especially since Obama likes to wield the cudgel of accusing anyone who criticizes him, or questions him, or hinders his agenda, of being a RACIST.</p>
<p>Some of the Obama supporters might think it a good thing that the inexperienced, know-not-much, low-accomplishment Obama had everything his way &#8212; but it TERRIFIES me for some the reasons here, which are based on the OBAMA MYTHS</p>
<p> &#8212; Obama voted to fund the Iraq war after telling everyone he would never vote to fund the Iraq war.</p>
<p> &#8212; Obama says he&#8217;s pro-choice but as an Illinois State Senator, Barack Obama took the coward&#8217;s way out and did not vote either &#8220;yes&#8221; or &#8220;no&#8221; when &#8220;choice&#8221; issues came up for a vote.   Instead, he voted &#8220;present&#8221; on seven abortion bills, including a ban on &#8220;partial birth abortion,&#8221; two parental notification laws and three &#8220;born alive&#8221; bills.  In each case, the right vote was clear, but Senator Obama chose political cover over standing and fighting for his convictions.  <a href="http://www.illinoisnow.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.illinoisnow.org</a></p>
<p> &#8212; Obama said he&#8217;s against NAFTA, but voted to EXPAND and EXTEND  it.</p>
<p> &#8212; Obama said he&#8217;s opposed to the Patriot Act but voted to RENEW it.</p>
<p> &#8212; Obama says he wants everyone covered with healthcare insurance, but Obama  CAVED  to the Health industry lobbyists in Illinois and deprived Illinois residents of universal heathcare and, in his own presidential plan, he  LEAVES OUT  FIFTEEN  MILLION people from having health coverage.</p>
<p> &#8212; Obama voted <strong>&#8220;FOR&#8221;</strong> Dick Cheney&#8217;s ENERGY bill allowing the drilling and mining interests to drill and mine to their heart&#8217;s content, raping the American environment in their lust for money for themselves.</p>
<p>~  ~  ~<br />
A President Obama, unrestricted by a subservient Congress would be a menace on the loose.</p>
<p>I would prefer a WEAK and RESTRICTED (by Congress)  President McCain to an UN-restricted, CORPORATE LOBBYIST-CONTROLLED, anti-America minister-loving, unrepentant terrorist-loving,  accepting NO responsibility for anything,  run-a-muck, NO experience with foreign affairs and NO knowledge of economic issues, President Obama any day.</p>
<p>And I do not want a First Lady who, for the first time in American history, hates the MAJORITY of its citizens based on the fact we are white &#8212; or, as she calls us, &#8220;whitey.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I do not want a president who has hidden behind the shield of his race to win this election.</p>
<p>I do not want a president who uses race as a CUDGEL with which to beat anyone who dares to mention that Obama has NO experience or knowledge of foreign affairs and NO experience or knowledge of economic issues, and that his campaign has been filled with CORPORATE  LOBBYISTS  just licking their lips for their Main Chance once Obama is installed in the White House.</p>
<p>In America these days, we don&#8217;t have  press corps that is worth much more than a bucket of warm spit;  but with a President Obama, the reporters, journalists and columnists would be even MORE servile and terrified to say one negative thing about Obama for fear of being called RACIST or worse.</p>
<p>There would BE  NO  criticism  ALLOWED  of a President Obama.</p>
<p>At least with a President McCain, we would be free to criticize.</p>
<p>But not with a President Obama.</p>
<p>And, most important, a Democratic-controlled Congress would NOT let McCain do much of anything; he would HAVE to compromise on just about everything.</p>
<p>Checks and balances with McCain.</p>
<p>NO  Congressional check or balance with Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: so saddened</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-342228</link>
		<dc:creator>so saddened</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the 18 million is only the ones who voted in the primaries. primary voters are generally the more politically active ones and dem primary voters are generally the more liberal ones in the party.

if 25 percent of hillary&#039;s supporters will vote for mccain, it&#039;s actually 25 percent of a much larger number. hard to say exactly but maybe 4 or 5 times larger?

anyway, raw number isn&#039;t the point. the point is the percent if hillary supporters are about half the dems, as was the case in the primaries, and 25% of them vote mccain, that&#039;s 25% of 1/2 = 1/8 or 12.5% of total voters. that&#039;s enough for a landslide mccain victory.

even if the number is cut down to 10%, it&#039;s 10% of 1/2 or 5%, still probably enough to swing an election. course it depends on what states....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the 18 million is only the ones who voted in the primaries. primary voters are generally the more politically active ones and dem primary voters are generally the more liberal ones in the party.</p>
<p>if 25 percent of hillary&#8217;s supporters will vote for mccain, it&#8217;s actually 25 percent of a much larger number. hard to say exactly but maybe 4 or 5 times larger?</p>
<p>anyway, raw number isn&#8217;t the point. the point is the percent if hillary supporters are about half the dems, as was the case in the primaries, and 25% of them vote mccain, that&#8217;s 25% of 1/2 = 1/8 or 12.5% of total voters. that&#8217;s enough for a landslide mccain victory.</p>
<p>even if the number is cut down to 10%, it&#8217;s 10% of 1/2 or 5%, still probably enough to swing an election. course it depends on what states&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Julius</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-342184</link>
		<dc:creator>Julius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TeakWoodKite,

He holds stock in Halliburton or Blackwater?  

I don&#039;t follow.  Can you please clarify?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TeakWoodKite,</p>
<p>He holds stock in Halliburton or Blackwater?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t follow.  Can you please clarify?</p>
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		<title>By: Diogenes2008</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-342133</link>
		<dc:creator>Diogenes2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julius

I felt it showed her character in contrast to his publicly giving her the &quot;finger&quot;. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=DygBj4Zw6No)

Obama will not select Hillary, and I believe Hillary is secretly praying he doesn&#039;t ask. It&#039;s everyone else who is talking about it, not really them.

However, if he&#039;s forced to do it because everyone knows he&#039;s not a lock without her - then I would do whatever legally necessary to keep him out of the White House. 

Obama would have to start answering some questions seriously and honestly before I would ever think of voting for him. He would have to convince me he will not bring further ruination to our economy and national security. He would have to show me he cares more about this country and its people than his own agenda. I just don&#039;t see the odds of him doing that..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julius</p>
<p>I felt it showed her character in contrast to his publicly giving her the &#8220;finger&#8221;. (<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=DygBj4Zw6No" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=DygBj4Zw6No</a>)</p>
<p>Obama will not select Hillary, and I believe Hillary is secretly praying he doesn&#8217;t ask. It&#8217;s everyone else who is talking about it, not really them.</p>
<p>However, if he&#8217;s forced to do it because everyone knows he&#8217;s not a lock without her &#8211; then I would do whatever legally necessary to keep him out of the White House. </p>
<p>Obama would have to start answering some questions seriously and honestly before I would ever think of voting for him. He would have to convince me he will not bring further ruination to our economy and national security. He would have to show me he cares more about this country and its people than his own agenda. I just don&#8217;t see the odds of him doing that..</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;single biggest problem with Obama?&lt;/em&gt;

His immoral indifference by profiting from the misery of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>single biggest problem with Obama?</em></p>
<p>His immoral indifference by profiting from the misery of others.</p>
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		<title>By: Diogenes2008</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-342073</link>
		<dc:creator>Diogenes2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember when Obama supporters insisted Super Delegates had to vote the way their state did? Clinton won by a wide margin in my state of Arizona but our Governor Napolitano, (supposedly on the short list for VP) will cast her Super Delegate vote against the voters in her state. Should I hold my breath in expectation Obama supporters will do as promised?

Gov. Napolitano is not the only Super Delegate who will vote against her constituency. In fact,wouldn&#039;t it be interesting to take a look at the number of Obama&#039;s Super Delegates who, like Napolitano, could gain personally from backing him? Last I checked, my state had two. Maybe it would be even more interesting to count how many Super Delegates and Candidates committed to Obama after receiving &quot; campaign contributions&quot; from him. Follow the money they say!

It is possible to bypass the voters and simply buy an election from the delegates? 

Do you also remember when Obama supporters threatened to organize an uprising if Super Delegates stole the nomination from Obama, who was then ahead in the popular vote? I must have missed it, because I didn&#039;t hear a peep out of them on May 31 when the Rules and Bylaws Committee waved their magic wand and delivered delegates to Obama, despite Clinton having officially won the popular vote. 

It is possible to bypass the voters and simply buy an election from the delegates? 

If you&#039;re confused about my saying the delegates &quot;will vote&quot; maybe thats because that &quot;Rules are Rules&quot; committed forgot to remind the press there is no nominee until the convention, only a &quot;Presumtive Nominee.&quot; How could that be you ask? Because Obama, even with all the magic wand waving didn&#039;t get the needed number of delegates without using Super Delegates. 

Have no fear! The magic wand will save Obama yet again with their two part plan:

1. Force Hillary to turn over her delegates to Obama. After all she only got the popular vote, so isn&#039;t he entitled to win now, now, now before the August convention? What difference does it make if that prevents her from raising money to retire her debt? Ladies and Gentlemen I predict you will hear a storm of indignation that she is still so unwilling 

2. SSSHHH. Don&#039;t tell anyone. But there&#039;s supposed to be a roll call where the delegates (not Super) cast their vote. Uh oh. I think that smacks too much of democracy  for the wand wavers. My next prediction: another maneuver, more indignation and presto chango the will of the people have &quot;voted&quot; Obama their nominee.

So boys and girls. I want to make sure you understand today&#039;s lesson in civics well:

Democracy is not important to Obama supporters, keeping your word is not important to them, and the only thing that matters is to win at any cost (another thing they accused Clinton of, but now is clear was their agenda all along.)

Is there any hope voters will be heard this year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember when Obama supporters insisted Super Delegates had to vote the way their state did? Clinton won by a wide margin in my state of Arizona but our Governor Napolitano, (supposedly on the short list for VP) will cast her Super Delegate vote against the voters in her state. Should I hold my breath in expectation Obama supporters will do as promised?</p>
<p>Gov. Napolitano is not the only Super Delegate who will vote against her constituency. In fact,wouldn&#8217;t it be interesting to take a look at the number of Obama&#8217;s Super Delegates who, like Napolitano, could gain personally from backing him? Last I checked, my state had two. Maybe it would be even more interesting to count how many Super Delegates and Candidates committed to Obama after receiving &#8221; campaign contributions&#8221; from him. Follow the money they say!</p>
<p>It is possible to bypass the voters and simply buy an election from the delegates? </p>
<p>Do you also remember when Obama supporters threatened to organize an uprising if Super Delegates stole the nomination from Obama, who was then ahead in the popular vote? I must have missed it, because I didn&#8217;t hear a peep out of them on May 31 when the Rules and Bylaws Committee waved their magic wand and delivered delegates to Obama, despite Clinton having officially won the popular vote. </p>
<p>It is possible to bypass the voters and simply buy an election from the delegates? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re confused about my saying the delegates &#8220;will vote&#8221; maybe thats because that &#8220;Rules are Rules&#8221; committed forgot to remind the press there is no nominee until the convention, only a &#8220;Presumtive Nominee.&#8221; How could that be you ask? Because Obama, even with all the magic wand waving didn&#8217;t get the needed number of delegates without using Super Delegates. </p>
<p>Have no fear! The magic wand will save Obama yet again with their two part plan:</p>
<p>1. Force Hillary to turn over her delegates to Obama. After all she only got the popular vote, so isn&#8217;t he entitled to win now, now, now before the August convention? What difference does it make if that prevents her from raising money to retire her debt? Ladies and Gentlemen I predict you will hear a storm of indignation that she is still so unwilling </p>
<p>2. SSSHHH. Don&#8217;t tell anyone. But there&#8217;s supposed to be a roll call where the delegates (not Super) cast their vote. Uh oh. I think that smacks too much of democracy  for the wand wavers. My next prediction: another maneuver, more indignation and presto chango the will of the people have &#8220;voted&#8221; Obama their nominee.</p>
<p>So boys and girls. I want to make sure you understand today&#8217;s lesson in civics well:</p>
<p>Democracy is not important to Obama supporters, keeping your word is not important to them, and the only thing that matters is to win at any cost (another thing they accused Clinton of, but now is clear was their agenda all along.)</p>
<p>Is there any hope voters will be heard this year?</p>
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		<title>By: Julius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious...

How did you all feel when Hillary gave a pretty glowing endorsement of Obama over the weekend?  Was she being disingenuous?

And if Obama ends up picking Hillary as VP what will be your reaction?</description>
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<p>How did you all feel when Hillary gave a pretty glowing endorsement of Obama over the weekend?  Was she being disingenuous?</p>
<p>And if Obama ends up picking Hillary as VP what will be your reaction?</p>
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		<title>By: Diogenes2008</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-342033</link>
		<dc:creator>Diogenes2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julius

It&#039;s ideologically where I see Bush and Obama being polar opposites. The rest of the comparison was pointing out how extremists from either side can end up being like twins in every other way.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s ideologically where I see Bush and Obama being polar opposites. The rest of the comparison was pointing out how extremists from either side can end up being like twins in every other way.</p>
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		<title>By: Right On</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-342028</link>
		<dc:creator>Right On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not trying to goad you, AnninCA, but you&#039;ve exposed the central hole in the logic of all this Obama vitriol. You assume that what is obvious to you (that Barack is &quot;clearly inferior&quot;) is just as obvious to everyone else, and an indisputable fact -- so then it seems logical to you that there must be other nefarious reasons some of us prefer him to Hillary. But, in fact, many (most?) of us who prefer Obama prefer him for a host of legitimate reasons. You can disagree, but that doesn&#039;t make us stupid or evil. 

Just as your reasoning strongly told you Hillary&#039;s win-at-all-cost temperament was a positive attribute for a president, other&#039;s of us felt it particularly harmful in today&#039;s world, and just as strongly felt Barack&#039;s leadership abilities and vision were vastly more needed. Vastly. It wasn&#039;t a matter of &quot;everything&#039;s pretty equal, so we&#039;ll vote against the woman.&quot; Barack struck us as vastly superior. You disagreed. Fine. But you lost. And you&#039;re not thinking clearly because you&#039;ve entangled your emotional reaction to this political loss with all the times you&#039;ve been through &quot;the same fucking defeat in life.&quot; Now every Michigan, every middle finger scratch, every &quot;sweetie,&quot; etc, becomes incontrovertible verification of all your wild suspicions. And, of course, you&#039;re quick to ignore the multitude of myriad uglinesses emanating from Hillary&#039;s campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not trying to goad you, AnninCA, but you&#8217;ve exposed the central hole in the logic of all this Obama vitriol. You assume that what is obvious to you (that Barack is &#8220;clearly inferior&#8221;) is just as obvious to everyone else, and an indisputable fact &#8212; so then it seems logical to you that there must be other nefarious reasons some of us prefer him to Hillary. But, in fact, many (most?) of us who prefer Obama prefer him for a host of legitimate reasons. You can disagree, but that doesn&#8217;t make us stupid or evil. </p>
<p>Just as your reasoning strongly told you Hillary&#8217;s win-at-all-cost temperament was a positive attribute for a president, other&#8217;s of us felt it particularly harmful in today&#8217;s world, and just as strongly felt Barack&#8217;s leadership abilities and vision were vastly more needed. Vastly. It wasn&#8217;t a matter of &#8220;everything&#8217;s pretty equal, so we&#8217;ll vote against the woman.&#8221; Barack struck us as vastly superior. You disagreed. Fine. But you lost. And you&#8217;re not thinking clearly because you&#8217;ve entangled your emotional reaction to this political loss with all the times you&#8217;ve been through &#8220;the same fucking defeat in life.&#8221; Now every Michigan, every middle finger scratch, every &#8220;sweetie,&#8221; etc, becomes incontrovertible verification of all your wild suspicions. And, of course, you&#8217;re quick to ignore the multitude of myriad uglinesses emanating from Hillary&#8217;s campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: DisenfranchisedVoter</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-341917</link>
		<dc:creator>DisenfranchisedVoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Larry. I can&#039;t stand either McCain or Obama. But for the first time in my life I prefer a Repub over a Democrat. If I have to choose, I&#039;ll choose McCain but I&#039;ll probably write in Hillary. When will our country stop voting for male idiots for the nation&#039;s highest office? I don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Larry. I can&#8217;t stand either McCain or Obama. But for the first time in my life I prefer a Repub over a Democrat. If I have to choose, I&#8217;ll choose McCain but I&#8217;ll probably write in Hillary. When will our country stop voting for male idiots for the nation&#8217;s highest office? I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Julius</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-341898</link>
		<dc:creator>Julius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ulahane,

&quot;McCain is infinitely more green than Bush.&quot;

&quot;In the 2007 National Environmental Scorecard released today by the League of Conservation Voters, John McCain receives a score of ZERO.&quot;

http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2008-02-21.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ulahane,</p>
<p>&#8220;McCain is infinitely more green than Bush.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;In the 2007 National Environmental Scorecard released today by the League of Conservation Voters, John McCain receives a score of ZERO.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2008-02-21.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2008-02-21.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Julius</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3013/mccain-vs-obama-my-position/#comment-341849</link>
		<dc:creator>Julius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diogenes2008,

You claim that Obama and Bush are polar opposites, but then you assign Bush&#039;s negative traits (secretive, domineering, addictive issues, etc) to Obama.

I&#039;m sorry but that just does not make any sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diogenes2008,</p>
<p>You claim that Obama and Bush are polar opposites, but then you assign Bush&#8217;s negative traits (secretive, domineering, addictive issues, etc) to Obama.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but that just does not make any sense.</p>
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