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Obama Lets the Cat Out of the Bag

By Anita Finlay ("Ani") on August 12, 2009 at 3:15 PM in Barack Obama, Health Care, Joe Biden, Medicare, Obama Administration, Obama's Budget

Yesterday President Obama stuck his foot in it. It was a gaffe worthy of Vice President Biden! But let your mind not be troubled. I don’t think he noticed. He seems to struggle with the first half of his message, but delivers big at the end.

H/T to Hot Air for this video. It is very short, so please stay with it.

Obama attempts to reassure “folks” at a town hall that health care reform does not mean long lines, nor does it mean the private insurers will be run out of business. How does he do it? He states that Fed Ex and UPS are still doing fine – it’s the post office that’s having problems.

Um. Isn’t the post office government run?

Does his “example” reassure you? Inquiring minds want to know.

Chat away.

HARP

Take 2 aspirins, followed by a book of stamps and call me in the morning.

candymarl

HA HA HA!
Ani

I am continually amazed that the President does not seem to hear himself when he says these things.

lorac

Not only did he not seem to realize the the PO is a governmental office, but he’s also wrong about how well UPS and Fedex are doing. They’re really struggling with the high fuel prices, which even though they aren’t as bad as the ultimate high (last summer?), they’re still high (which gets passed on to the consumer, and then business starts to slow down…)

I guess we shouldn’t make fun of the teleprompter. He really needs it.

Ani

Thanks for pointing that out, Lorac.

lorac

Thanks for another great article, Ani

http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

How right you are! This is dumbass without TOTUS. Can’t think on his feet. Same as the debates…he was so deficient compared to…well anyone.

lorac

Ani, I hope it doesn’t freak you out, but Glenn Beck just made your point in his show-opening monologue!

Ani

Great — someone will accuse me of being a right wing idealogue again!

They should only know. They are barking up the wrong lady.
Country First

Glenn Beck’s advertisers are being pressured to drop the Glenn Beck show. GEICO just capitulated!

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/boycott-geico.html

Even if you don’t particularly like Glenn’s style, he is one that is trying to get the truth out. We need to fight back by raising Glenn’s ratings. Just turn his show on every day and let it run if you don’t want to watch it. I have Direct TV and Glenn is on Fox at 5 p.m Eastern in my area.

Let’s not let Obama thugs silence another voice.

Chicago

What do you expect, Geico is a Warren Buffet company? Buffett is an Obama supporter.

by the way, Buffett has been shorting the US dolar and he will make billions when it finally collapses due to the massive amount of dollars being printed. with Tim Geithner asking Congress to raise the debt limit again more it will be the last nail in the coffin of the US dollar which would ensure’s Buffett’s profits in shorting the dollar.

and guess who else has been shorting the US Dollar – none other than George Soros himself.

look it up yourselves.

susan

Obama often speaks condescendingly of Biden’s gaffes, but Obama has outdone Biden twice in as many months, first with his stupid police comment and now this. Someone please give the man back the damn teleprompter!

Country First

Come on now, Obama doesn’t make gaffes, he doesn’t mean to mislead, he just misspeaks sometime. Gibbs told us so.

fif

He also claimed the AARP endorsed his plan–they haven’t, and put out a press release saying as much.

elizabethrc

This may be one of the last open forums you’ll see Obama appear at. He’s a disaster without a script! He just made the case for all of us who oppose his interventionism and I can’t wait to see how Gibbs stumbles his way through this one.

The man is simply underequipped to carry out the duties of the presidency and he’s going to leave with his tail between his legs before this is over.

politicsisdirty

Karma.

What goes around, comes around.

He who lives by his rhetorics, dies by his rhetorics.
politicsisdirty

So he misspoke when he said that the AARP supports his Healthcare plan? Of course he didn’t lie. Pres Obama doesn’t lie.

HARP

It`s “only words”.
candymarl

Yeah his mouth is a prayer book. Sarcasm learned from my church going Grandmother.
lorac

I’m suspicious about the whole thing. I saw lots of people on TV and the blogs saying they were cancelling their AARP membership because of this, so SOMEBODY must have been saying that AARP supported the plan. I’m wondering if the AARP is simply backtracking, because of all the cancelled memberships, and now saying they don’t support it. But… it’s seems like politics means you can lie and not be held accountable, so who even knows anymore… it’s ridiculous….

Ferd Berfle

My wife and I left the AARP. Whether the AARP does or doesn’t support it is immaterial at this point because they certainly didn’t fight it. I want no part of any organization that won’t stick to its guns and priorities. When the government speaks of running something, they really mean running it into the ditch. The AARP should have known that by heart.

Ani

Considering this is the premier organization supposedly on the side of the rights of older
Americans, it is preposterous that they have been so docile through all of this.

fif

Sort of like NOW during the primaries last year…

Clara

I’m thinking he was right on with this statement. Heard on the radio coming home from work that actually, the new AARP CEO was a large Obama contributor. Perhaps they are on board after all.

Gosh, I wonder if those two items are related? I hope they lose scads of members over this.

MBC

AARP = Insurance, Medicare Supplements and Medicare Part D.

AARP plans managed by UnitedHealthCare.

United Healthcare CEO = Big BO supporter and donor.

jbjd

Who says, there is no ‘God’?

(Having seen the light, does this mean he will now ask the financial services sector for our money back?)
imustprotest

Now I see why he didn’t actually “try” any cases before a judge during his brief career as a lawyer. And this from the man who has been lauded as the most eloquent POTUS evah!

jbjd

Yeah; now I have to update my blog post, “IF YOU THINK BARACK OBAMA IS SO SMART, PROVE IT!”

http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

Yup–FedEx and UPS are better run than the post office. I am so freaked out to find that I actually agree with him on something!

lorac

Part of the reason may be that they charge a LOT more money than the PO does. Other than that, I know that UPS is union, and Fedex is not. I’m not sure about UPS, but Fedex is run in a military-style fashion – everything is from the top down, and very uniform. Almost like a franchise, too – every station gets the exact same motivational posters, etc).

Fedex even started telling couriers exactly in what order to start their vehicles, and the couriers were tested on it whenever their supervisor rode with them (it was as controlled as: pull the seatbelt with your left hand at the same time as you are turning the key with your right hand – trying to make a few more pennies by controlling even a few seconds of time!)

I do agree that being able to move packages all over very quickly is pretty miraculous.

NoBamaNoWay

also, i don’t really see anything wrong with the post office; i’ve never had any problem with them out here in SD, but i think that in some places they have troubles that are largely caused by the disfunctional populations that they get their employees from. i wouldn’t be surprised if the post offices in let’s say, Chicago, are having some problems, but i bet FedEx and UPS are only doing marginally better, due to their ability to fire the trouble-makers more easily.

Senneth

I also have no problems with the post office. Although there are often long lines because of a shortage of postal workers.
I sent my niece two packages one by UPS and through US Post Office. I had her address wrong on both packages. Inverted numbers or something. She never received the package I sent by UPS but she did receive the package from the post office although it took a few months, they found her. That to me was amazing, and since it was a photo album with all her baby and school photos in it I was really happy she received it.
Ani

Just for the record, it was certainly not my intent to malign the post office with my piece. I am pointing out how our President seems to think there is something run with this government run organization, when he is trying to pass government run health care.

The post office has been reliable from my experience, anyway. The problem, as someone pointed out below, is that funds that are profits are siphoned off of the USPS so that they look like they are in the hole. They did the same thing with SSA, no? And that is worrisome, given this administration’s penchant for grabbing every penny they can from everywhere they can.
lorac

Nobama, what does “SD” mean – a state or a city?

Peggy Sue

This isn’t the first time. When the Prez is off the teleprompter, he goes off message and makes gaffes galore. This is not someone who has spent a great deal of time studying the problem, giving it a 360 degree analyses or completely immersed himself in the policy itself.

The Gibbster came out today and said President Obama is providing details. No, he’s not! He’s talking in broad generalizations, swatting away objections but unable to provide clear explanations on the nitty-gritty.

You get what you pay for! The is the Cue-Card Leader. He outsourced this monstrosity to Pelosi’s House gang, and they’ve made a mess of it. They can’t even get the message right. Instead, they’re hurling insults and blaming anyone they can think of.

Time to start looking in the mirror!

What a God-awful mess!

Thanks for the update, Ani.

lorac

Well, he hasn’t read the health care bills, any more than the legislators have….

I just can’t get over the audacity (yes!) of our “leaders” coming out and talking about something they haven’t even read. It is so incredible. What kind of universities did they go to?
jbjd

That’s like when he says, ‘Like the President has been saying all along…’ I want to jump through the computer and scream, ‘When? Give me ONE example! One!’

I’m a Linda too

Yep, he just made another t-shirt slogan.

…I think that goes on the back of the “Acted Stupidly” one.

Don’t worry about Government Health Insurance…UPS and Fed Ex are fine, it’s the Post Office that’s always having problems”

Doesn’t a big @#$!@# go there? ???

Isn’t that another Bushism?
Diana L. C.

Besides the fact that he makes studpid analogies, his delivery is awful. I can’t stand to hear him speak. He always sounds as if he is talking down to his audience. And all the stops and diretion changes in his sentences get me dizzy.

It all comes down to this: I really distrust him and Pelosi and Reid.

Diana L. C.

And, I do know that saying I distrust him means that I don’t have to repeat myself by saying that I distrust Pelosi and Reid, since they are all the same problem. I just thought I’d mention a few of us “whiteys” so I wouldn’t be accused of being racist.

lorac

I’m sorry, Diana, it doesn’t matter. If you’re against BO, you’re racist. Don’t even waste your breath explaining your objections to his behavior or policies, the minute they see you’re not saying “yes we can”, they know you’re a racist.

http://noquarter foxyladi14

some claiming there were plants in the audience..
plants??looked like a greenhouse.lol.

Kathy

Hahaha! Love it!

helenk

He is beginning to make Bush look like a Rhodes Scholar.

This guy is unreal

WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

listingstarboard

HE also accused a Republican SENATOR of writing one of the HOUSE amendments.

Peggy Sue

That was another gaffe. I understand the WH has retracted the statement. It’s a real gaffe-a-thong when TOTUS is discarded.

And we’re suppose to “trust” that this healthcare bill will serve the public’s interest???

Hahahaha.

felizarte

This is not someone who has spent a great deal of time studying the problem, giving it a 360 degree analyses or completely immersed himself in the policy itself.

SO TRUE!

He is defending/explaining the healthcare program in congress which does not address, or is the opposite of what he is saying. And the people know this. Which is why they are increasingly frustrated and mad.

I hope he learns soon that he can no longer bamboozle the American people.

required reading

Obama does not “learn,” especially from people he looks down upon, which is everyone in America except “he, himself, and him.” And, ok, maybe ME-shell, who taught him how to use race and religion to succeed in politics.
Lisabona

You could be right. My believe is, only an Obot with a single digit IQ could possible trust his and Pelosi & Co, Healthcare blessing. Always disappointed me when somebody is trying to insult the others intelligents. We still have our judgement. I don’t know for how long we are alloved to have it ? In the future the Goverment will do that for us.

HulaHula

The question was how can private insurance companies compete with government provided insurance. Obama used the competition between the Post Office (Government), Fed Ex., and UPS to show that private companies do compete with entities run by the government and succeed at it.

lorac

I get your point, but I still don’t know if it’s a fair comparison. The PO only is alloted so much money to do its work, and has to get congressional (I think) approval to even raise its rates. UPS and Fedex have the freedom to raise rates, if it will help them improve services, or even just get more money for the same level of service.

I’m not a business expert at all. I just think this is a relevant difference that doesn’t allow for a straight comparison. I imagine that the difference has both benefits and drawbacks on each side, but my point is that it’s a difference….

Possibly the PO could have a better product-delivery structure…..? I don’t even know wht theirs is. I know Fedex uses a hub system. Maybe someone can post who knows more about the PO system than I do.
http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

And the PO – a government run entity is failing. Why in your little squishy obot mind would you want an additional government entity with the potential for failure?

Obama’s brilliant (cough-cough) brain failed him and the nation once again.

donjo

The USPS gets the dregs (junk mail, magazines, bills, etc.) while UPS and FedEx get the money-making boxes and packages. Also the internet is killing the USPS. Eventually, it may cease to exist – or merely be a junk mail deliverer a few days a month.

lorac

Those are really good points. And I think it’s a shame, because even if the PO can’t do some things as well as the other guys, it’s so cool that you can mail a letter across the country for a few cents, and it gets there in a few days. IMO, it’s really pretty amazing.

Of course, we all email a lot now. But it’s still nice to send a birthday card by mail, etc. And no way that Fedex or UPS could do that for several dimes…..
lorac

I’ve seen a lot of old movies, and apparently they used to get mail twice a day (at least in the city scenes that were in the movies). So at some point, people adjusted to only getting mail once a day. I suppose we could adjust to only getting it a few times a week, if that would help the PO. If it’s something incredibly important, people are probably faxing it or shipping it overnight, anyway….

Confused American

It also looks like he blew it with AARP

“AARP Reacts to President’s Health Care Townhall Source: AARP Press Center FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE August 11, 2009 Contact AARP Media Relations, 202-434-2560 AARP Reacts to President’s Health Care Townhall WASHINGTON – AARP Chief Operating Officer Tom Nelson issued this statement following remarks by the President at a townhall event in New Hampshire on health care reform.
“AARP has been working with Democrats and Republicans to fix our broken health care system.
“While the President was correct that AARP will not endorse a health care reform bill that would reduce Medicare benefits, indications that we have endorsed any of the major health care reform bills currently under consideration in Congress are inaccurate.”

http://www.aarp.org/aarp/presscenter/pressrelease/articles/prez_townhall_reaction.html
PO’dVet

The truly amusing part is that he is just flat out wrong in every way. The USPS has traditionally performed much better than UPS and FedEx. They also always post losses though, because the government takes the money to use for other pet projects, and deducts that from the post office before they release the final figures for profit and loss. I found out about this BS when I worked for the USPS about 12 years ago. The USPS is deliberately set up to run as a minimally profit making entity to keep mail prices down as much as possible. But due to some glaring wholes in the way it was set up. Washington gets to dip into it like a piggie bank and that causes the slight profit to turn into a loss.

lorac

Hmmm… isn’t that part of the problem with social security and maybe medicare, too? Didn’t I hear they have always taken funds away and used them for other things…? How can these legislators expect the programs they set up to work, if one hand is setting them up, and the other hand is disabling them by stealing from them…?

Country First

Social Security was set up as a trust fund. I don’t remember exactly when, but the dems did away with the trust and put it in the General Fund and promised to pay back what was taken out for General use.

I believe I saw this history on the National Black Republicans website, where they have a lot of good history posted.

Country First

It seems I got this wrong. That it was put into the General Fund is a myth I just read.

Excuse the misinformation please; I meant well.

Ani

Wow — I am so glad you mentioned this.

Money is taken from Social Security as well.

Isn’t that he worst reason to let the gov’t get its hands on health care too. We have the same problem with education on our state. Money keeps getting funneled there through taxes and the govt “borrows” the money and doesn’t pay it back.

Uh oh. What assurances do we have that this will not keep happening.
http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

You mean like they do with our SS money? I’m shocked!

vulcan

fedex just posted a huge loss. Don’t let him speak without a teleprompter.

lorac

Yes, and they have a tradition of never having ever laid anybody off, which, understandably, they would like to continue. I know a huge number of people who work there. They tell me they’re cutting employees’ hours, etc., trying to find some way through. They’ve also cut benefits – for instance, they no longer match employees’ 401K contributions. They’re having a rough time – the company AND the employees.

http://shhhithitsthefan.wordpress.com/ It hits the fan

Perhaps this is Obama’s bailout for the Postal Service. Those of us with health issues will simply mail them in to the federal bureaucracy who will then decide (if we are eligible) which doctor we should see and when.
Arabella Trefoil

What does the Post Office have to do with health care?
oowawa

Oh, this is hilarious. Obama’s health care plan is in trouble with another one of his main worshippers, but not Thee One Himself, just the way the folks around him have gone about implementing O-Whole-Health. In a new article on Salon, Camille Paglia writes:

Buyer’s remorse? Not me. At the North American summit in Guadalajara this week, President Obama resumed the role he is best at — representing the U.S. with dignity and authority abroad. This is why I, for one, voted for Obama and continue to support him. The damage done to U.S. prestige by the feckless, buffoonish George W. Bush will take years to repair. Obama has barely begun the crucial mission that he was elected to do.

Having said that, I must confess my dismay bordering on horror at the amateurism of the White House apparatus for domestic policy. When will heads start to roll?

Oh, this is so delicious! Paglia is ready for heads to roll–just not O’s precious noggin! Read and laugh:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/08/12/town_halls/

http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

I don’t know about Camilla. I think he makes her leg tingle. She seems to have a problem with a lot of his policies but just can’t seem to criticize him. I will never understand the attraction. His mean-spiritedness makes him ugly in my book.

oowawa

Spaminated, Ani. Please rescue, thanks.

Ani

Freedom!

oowawa

Thanks, Ani. I can’t believe some of the stuff I am reading in this article linked above, such as: “What Sarah Palin Got Right, and Skip Gates got Wrong” (header at bottom of page).

oowawa

And this: “The president is promoting the most colossal, brazen bait-and-switch operation since the Bush administration snookered the country into invading Iraq with apocalyptic visions of mushroom clouds over American cities.”

And this from an obot who still professes support!

Ani

I have just discovered the code! Paglia, Koch, Rich, Reich, Robinson — every one of them all wrote posts critical of President Obama. All are big supporters.

The code is this —

‘I still have to profess unending admiration, even while I go up one side of you and down the other cause then no one will call me the “r” word.’

Howz that workin’ out?

oowawa

Yes Ani, that’s it. Perish the thought that the “R” charge could be brought against them. But as you note below, “she’ll come around;” they’re all teetering on the brink, and when they finally are forced to confess their disillusionment with Thee One, it will be like an admission of having been duped, bamboozled, razzle-dazzled by a Chicago community organizer–and being urbane intellectual sophisticates, this admission will not be easy.

Ani

Yet she can’t admit to buyer’s remorse. Give Ms. Paglia time. She’ll come around.

Scranton4Hillary

Perhaps the boy blunder confused Post Office with Doctor’s Office?? I mean,uh, uh, uh, I’m just saying….:)

lorac

lol maybe – but then again, I think they’re all doing well, because as we have learned, they cut out tonsils for a 24-hr sore throat, and amputate legs if they have a bruise – so the doctors must have lots of money!

Objective Analysis

Well Post Office is horrible and guess what it is run by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. whew – i feel much better with Obama runnning GM, Chrysler, healthcare – NOT!

Since we are on healthcare, here is a layman’s analysis of HR3200 – the person who read the bill unlike Obama and Congress

check it out

The Health Care Bill: What HR 3200, ‘‘America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009,” Says
http://www.classicalideals.com/HR3200.htm
http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

Well Post Office is horrible and guess what it is run by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Since the two PO Lifers retired (old white guys), you’d think our PO was a chapter of ACORN. Only minorities need apply. All Blacks, Latinas and Asian. Sorry, that was factual but I’m sure…RACIST. All Obama voters.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t turn PO operations over to ACORN soon as a little pay back.

oowawa

Well, Martha, am an old white guy and another USPS retiree, after 25 years of service. The Postal Service used to be great. Getting the job was a matter of competitive examination, with 5 or 10 additional points awarded for veterans. It was a leg-up for veterans. I can’t remember any special points awarded for minorities, and I imagine that now it is much the same. It is a union job, and the several unions who staff the post office are strong.

I became very disillusioned with USPS after mechanization and consolidation saw many skilled and efficient workers replaced by machines, and many post offices and processing centers shut down.

It was hard work, mostly by night, and sure, in the olden days the stress would occasionally light a fuse and someone would flip out and “go postal” and shoot up the place. But the USA had, and still has, the best, cheapest, and most efficient postal system in the world. Does UPS or American Express want to deliver letters to tiny little backwaters and remote rural spots for the price of a stamp? I don’t think so. USPS has had its problems, but it has always worked very well.

oowawa

~~American Express~~=Federal Express (although I don’t think American Express wants to deliver a letter to Podunk for the price of a stamp either)
Diana L. C.

I have always appreciated the P.O. and don’t like to see it maligned. Only once in my long life have I had a package lost.

I remember one post office branch that I had to use about thirty years ago where I would have sworn that in order to get a job there you had to score very high on the surly scale of a personality test, but they still got the job done.

Tricia Spiegel

He seems lost in his own thoughts–kind of like he knows he may be going into strange territory but doesn’t know quite how to stop himself because he isn’t sure where he is.

Frankly, that’s how I see his health care plan.
Arabella Trefoil

He has the Post Office on his mind because he expects his face on a postage stamp any day. Probably he doesn’t realize that in the United State, we don’t put images of living people on our stamps.

Maybe Nigeria will put Obama on a postage stamp.
http://www.madinthemiddle.blogspot.com churl

If UPS and Fed/Ex were required to do what the USPS is required to do, they wouldn’t be returning a profit either. If the insurance companies were required to do anything useful, they would be far less profitable.
tzada

Where o where is an open forum when you need it?

Sorry for the OT but this needs imput from people like us.

Did you know the Puff Ho called on GEICO to pull their ads from Glenn Beck because he dared tell the truth?

Well they did. Now I ask you to pull your business from GEICO. Seriously. NOW.

GEICO Pulls Its Ads from Glenn Beck Show
From Puff Ho

Great news — yet another major company has acted in response to our campaign calling on Glenn Beck’s advertisers to stop supporting his show. GEICO told us that they will no longer run ads during Beck’s show.

This comes on the heels of news last week that four other advertisers — Lawyers.com, Progressive Insurance, Procter & Gamble, and SC Johnson — also distanced themselves from Beck. None of this would have been possible without the thousands of people — more than 75,000, now — who have taken action and signed our petition to Glenn Beck’s advertisers.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

Diana L. C.

I got rid of GEICO a while back–still love the little gecko guy, though. He is cute.

JasonD

You crazy GOPers, not content with 8 years of your president (worst ever) you blame everything on the new guy. Well just because you did not get your Romney or McCain or Palin you have to cry and cry.

Ulysses S. Moss

Want the short answer Jason

When tools can pass tax increases on small business at a time of economic collapse…

When tools can pass trillions of new spending which has had limited results in a time of economic collapse..

When tools can pass a crap and tax on business at a time of collapse…

When tools want to take over a health care industry which will cost trillions more at a time of economic collapse..

All I can say to you a person who has NO SKIN IN THE GAME..

WE are here to protect you tool from yourself!

Because another Trillion is going to break the camels back of our currency system.

The least of your worries will be health care if you have to spend a thousand dollars for a loaf of bread and the only currency they except is the Chinese Juan.

We are here to save you tool from FAMINE!

Ever hear of the Weimer Republic in Germany.
Do you remember what happened after the collapse of their currency. If you don’t look it up
The backlash revolution to save the American dollar and prevent national bankruptcy has already started against you Tools.
Peggy Sue

Jason, were you stamping your foot when you typed that??

FYI, a substantial number on this board are not GOPers. More Clinton Dems and Independents. I never voted for GW or his policies. Never believed in them, anymore than I believe Obama&Co has or will live up to his grandiose promises.

And if anyone is crying, the tears are for the country at large. So please, go stamp your “wittle” foot elsewhere.
http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

Ha, Ha, Ha, JasonD.

Get your money back. Dear Leader’s Obot correspondence courses didn’t teach you a dammn thing!

Recommendation:

Read the thread about Obama lying to everyone and then realize that you are among the stupid rubes who believed him.
Country First

Grow up, Jason.

TeakWoodKite

“Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds,”

And that’s all I have to say on the matter.
brendy

Comment by JasonD | 2009-08-12 19:54:08

You crazy GOPers, not content with 8 years of your president (worst ever) you blame everything on the new guy. Well just because you did not get your Romney or McCain or Palin you have to cry and cry.

***

Uh, I thought this was a pro-Hillary sight – and she is a ‘democrat’, isn’t she? The people ‘crying’ on this board and others are AMERICANS concerned because the WRONG ‘democrat’ was chosen to lead this country.

Pro-Obama, pro-’party’ people are trying to make all the ‘criers’ sound as if they ALL are republicans, when actually, it’s people (AMERICAN citizens, pro-’country’) from ALL parties who are against this socialist who wants to CONTROL all of us!

That’s the far-left’s way, isn’t it? Divide the masses, pit them against one another and then when we’re weak, no longer united as a people – come in for the ‘kill’! Can’t AMERICANS see this???
Retired

What a doofus! “When it absolutely, positively has to get there overnight” I spend $26 and send it FedEx. If I don’t really care whether it gets there or not, I spend 44 cemts and semd it USPS. Of course, my tax dollars already subidize the Post Office anyway, so I really don’t know how much that letter cost me in addition to the 44 cents. Is that the way Obamacare is going to work? Jesus, get this guy back on the teleprompter.
jangles

Why does the USPS have trouble making ends meet?
How about the cost of delivering the mail to small towns and rural addresses?
How about the legacy costs of employees negotiated and bound by civil service rules?
How about the affirmative action mandates on postal hiring?

How about this analogy? What has been one of the proposed solutions nationwide to the failure of America’s public schools which are by definition government run? Charter Schools—publicly funded but privately formed and developed by a range of different private initiatives. A strategy that has received bi-partisan support but is widely opposed by public employee unions and public school boards.

How about chartered health care? Publicly funded but open to a broad range of private initiatives..
http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

I think his point is that USPS didn’t make FedEx/UPS go away — the gov’t service and the private service co-exist. The analogy is total bullshit because your employer doesn’t pay for your shipping. If your employer paid your shipping costs, you better believe they’d make you go wait in line at the Post Office. “Does it really have to be there overnight?”

Some employers will do everything they can to shift their healthcare costs to the public sector — they already do, hiring temp employees and ‘floaters’ without benefits.

We’ve already seen this in NY state with employers pushing employees out of their private plans onto the gov’t ‘Child Care Plus’ program that was designed to cover the uninsured.

Ani

Absolutely true. I have a family member who has been going through the for years, working for companies who find all kinds of ways to get around giving her medical insurance, or if she has the option to pay into it, her salary is so low that she can’t afford to live if she pays into the plan.

DAB

I am constantly amazed at how sarcastic Obama can be to his questioners in Town Halls. He often gets this amused, dismissive look on his face at those he considers silly. Recently I saw him dismiss=one about Grandma with an “Oh that would be morbid!” Kind of offensive, don’t you think?

As for the Post Office, I believe that much of their current problem stems from the fact that bills are increasingly paid online. I have also noticed that I am receiving fewer catalogs, either because companies have gone out of business or they have cut back on how often they are sent. As a result, fewer packages are also sent.

I am personally supportive of significant health care reform, but Obama has done a very poor job as a pitchman. Despite my desire to have obvious wrongs righted, I am skeptical of his approach because he just offers vague generalities that just don’t cut it.
ACPD

I gave up on Bill Maher a while ago–too adolescent and too sexist….Last night I watched a little just to see what he had to say about health-care. He is really pushing to make this out to be a white versus black issue, claiming that the town meetings are just rallying points for angry Republican whites who want to take the country back from a “black man.” I was astounded, when I heard him say this. These guys really are completely amoral and self-deluded. He even tried to blame Bush for all of the spending BO has done by saying that BO had no choice, because of the mess he inherited. This is like a 60 year old person still blaming his parents for his personalty problems. At some point we all have to take responsibility for our own actions and stop looking to others….
MrMike

Fedex and UPS were never ordered to provide services at steeply discounted rates by some Representative or Senator doing a favor for a magazine publisher or bulk mailer that contributed to their election campaign.
Look at any of the “government” programs that are failing or in trouble and you find it to be the same.
Like Medicade being forced to pay list price for drugs thanx to George Bush and his clone Obama.
Cahil

Thanks for the video. Haven’t had my good laugh of the day. Makes me want to run right out and have my foot amputated by some greedy hack doctor.

Obumble must be channeling Bush. Could any two stupider people have been put in charge?

A hat tip to the pseudo intellectuals, the left leaning liberals, the lazy Republican whiners who thought McCain was too centrist to vote for, the mental midgets of the MSM, and the generally lazy and uneducated American public, all of whom brought us this current clown and his sideshow of crooks.
Regina

“Don’t worry about Government Health Insurance…UPS and Fed Ex are fine, it’s the Post Office that’s always having problems” This beats 57 states. This also beats Austrian language. I really think his Indonesian education is showing.
TexasMirth

This guy is such a buffoon. And all the media goons who have told us what a genius he is deserve to be endlessly ridiculed for regurgitating the White House propaganda. Thankfully, the American people are bypassing the press offal and thinking for themselves, as evidenced by B.O. slipping in the polls.