Comments on: Obama Tiene Un Problema Muy Grande

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:50:19 +0000

Obama math! Say hello to primaDonna.

By: hillarysmygirl

hillarysmygirl — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:23:39 +0000

Yeah right, Obama doesn’t need Florida to win.

Or Michigan.
Or Pennsylvania.
Or Ohio.
Or Arkansas.
Or New Hampshire.
Or Massachusetts.
Or New York.
Or New Jersey.
Or California.

He’s got Illinois and Hawaii. I think that’ll be enough, don’t you?

By: ginamc

ginamc — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:23:37 +0000

That is a LIE, FALSE, and highly inaccurate. As a Hispanic Political Scientist — that is absolutely wrong. Stop spreading those lies. Bush fared better than Kerry, especially among Mex/Am, pro-life Catholics.

By: ginamc

ginamc — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:18:22 +0000

I am from Texas, and a long-time political activist from San Antonio, with many friends in CA. I strongly do NOT think that Hispanics are going to end up voting for BO over McCain. I am a Progressive Hillary supporter, and most people that I know will either not vote or those who have family members, loved ones and friends in the military, will vote for McCain. As I said previously, we fought UNITY all this weekend at our Tx Convention. Here is the argument against Obama from a Mex/Am perspective:
1. We do NOT know BO, NO relationship w/him like the Clintons. And, what he do know– he’s scary to Latinos–his friends make him scary; i.e., Wright, Farrakhan, Pfleger, Ayers, which put him in an anti-patriotic light;
2. Hispanics, specifically, Mex/Am are highly patriotic, and again between military family and Obama and Michelle’s anti-patriotic friends and rants — they are viewed susupiciously. Look up the stats on Latinos, especially Mex/Am in Texas–the most Puple Hearts of any ethnic group.
3. VERY IMPORTANT: the Clintons have a long history and RELATIONSHIP w/Hispanics, that will NOT be broken with BO. That is plain and simple. Richardson has only complicated matters, and after 40 years of loving Kennedys. Ted was NOT received with open-arms. We closed the door on him. NEVER to Bill Clinton.
4. We are a Matriarchal culture — meaning ALL of the dis’ing from BO, his surrogates, including the MSM, is a continual factor that turns off Hispanics on a daily basis. BO ran VICIOUS anti-Hillary Spanish-language ads on t.v. and radio, filled with lies and innuendo, and that REALLY pissed more people off. You do NOT dis a woman like BO has and still does — HUGE NO-NO. When BO dis’d Hillary, many believe it is like dis’ing our mother, sister, friend, grandma, sister, comadre. I’ve seen way too many altars with the Hillary next to the Virgen de Guadalupe. She is truly a phenomenon in S.A., and L.A.
5. BO is a turn-off to us Hispanic women–watch out there, there are more of us registered voters than the men. Some men are open to BO, very few women.

Sorry, BO, if Hillary keeps getting dis’d at the regular rate that she does, not even VP will cut it. I will bet LOTS OF MONEY on Hispanics and McCain if Hillary is not the Prez. nominee in August. And, you can take that to the bank.

NOBAMA, NEVER!

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:17:26 +0000

Ginamc;
I would really like to hear more of your experience at the Texas Convention…perhaps you would post an artical about it?

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:14:39 +0000

Sugars point is not about the Dem party but the Nation as a whole…

This issue is chock full of ironies, McCain does have the perceptual upper hand. The Session’s wing of the Republican party is unlikely to yield but La Raza won’t either.

They both do not represent a significant portion of the voting public.

What a pickle it will become as an election issue. BO is going to propel more stupidity from his crap cannon on this one. Where can he go with it? I think not far.

By: hillarysmygirl

hillarysmygirl — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:12:01 +0000

the winner of the popular vote is not going to be nominated, because a committee of 30 people(RBC) decided to hand him the nomination with delegates that he did not earn.

Actually, it was only 19 people who decided to hand him the nomination. The other 8 did not.

19 bastards.

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:04:45 +0000

Does Suffolk county receive Fed grants if the bill passes?

It raises another front on the points you are making. The pro and con confluence of the illegal immigration debate meet at a very local level, because the Feds will not faithfully execute the laws on the books.

My main point is that these elected BO supporters have to answer to their constituents, who as in Suffolk county are attempting address what , as witnessed in the debates in NY? became a real hot potato. The outcome of NY driver licenses in Albany took a very Conservative turn following that debate. Democratic elected officials objected to granting driver licenses to illegal immigrants.

*for the record I am not discussing the merits of the issue, just attempting to highlight how politics IS local and that BO is unlikely to prevail in any meaningful way at the local level when considering his “flip flop” on this.

By: hillarysmygirl

hillarysmygirl — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:02:41 +0000

Sugar, I’ve donated (more) money to Hillary to help her pay off her debt. I’ve done a lot of research as to what happens to the money she’s loaned her campaign and what happens to her debts. Campaign law limits to $250,000 the amount a campaign committee can repay the candidate after the election. In the case of the Democratic primary, the election will end when a nominee is selected in Denver. So unless Clinton is able to raise enough money to pay herself back by then, she’ll have to write off millions of dollars she lent to her campaign.

I don’t know if the rumors are true that Obama has offered to help, but in no way do I want her beholden to him. I think we need to help her out before August 30 in case she is not the nominee.

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:40:22 +0000

Slap that unitty pony on the butt ONE MORE TIME..on national TV no less.

Ug…Dan stick to what you know. OK?
Don’t confuse individuals expressing principled opinions for being based on party affiliation.

I am an American, critize me for that ok?

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:28:59 +0000

The over issue you have raised Charles Lemos, is that Obama will be required to expend time and resources courting Hispanic voters, who for what ever reason one would choose to advance, which would not be the case if Senator Clinton were the nominee. It must be noted that Hispanic voters are not a monolithic voting block as has been witnessed in the AA community.

I am bemused that Dean and the DNC takes for granted the Hispanic vote and vote-jacked the AA’s predilections while not considering the bigger picture demographically.

Not that it is a skill the DNC ever had but they made a choice to dis-enfranchise Florida, others in the Hispanic community will take note of that fact and vote accordingly. Obama and the DNC are cruising for a bruising.

By: LandOLincoln

LandOLincoln — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:15:33 +0000

Thank you for pointing that out, Sugar.

While I said upthread that I’d leave the country before I’d vote for BO, I forgot to add that I felt the same way about John McCain.

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:09:03 +0000

Obama didn’t find that out until he in his 20’s

That must have really been a dissapointment.

By: LandOLincoln

LandOLincoln — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:01:24 +0000

I will not click on the Orange Satan, and I will leave the country before I vote for Barack Obama.

But thanks anyway.

By: TXHispDem

TXHispDem — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:59:26 +0000

This Latina will not be voting Obama no matter what. So Donna Brazile may kiss my brown a**. And, my disclaimer: No, I will not change my mind come Nov.