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		<title>By: Reforming For Profits II (Greenwald Update) : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reforming For Profits II (Greenwald Update) : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Aug. 17th orginal with updates at end of post. Update I: Excellent video of Dylan Ratigan&#8217;s Morning Meeting [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Aug. 17th orginal with updates at end of post. Update I: Excellent video of Dylan Ratigan&#8217;s Morning Meeting [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CG</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245381</link>
		<dc:creator>CG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Linda for your courage.  Pretty tough crowd on all sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Linda for your courage.  Pretty tough crowd on all sides.</p>
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		<title>By: CG</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245378</link>
		<dc:creator>CG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>talk about ill-informed...

 &lt;blockquote&gt;Richardson, who dropped out of the Democratic race in January, is to appear with Obama on Friday at a campaign event in Portland, Ore., The Associated Press has learned.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hell yes Richardson stabbed the Clinton&#039;s in the back big time.

get your information straight before you spout off that Richardson waited until Obama got the nomination, unless you freakin&#039; believe that Obama won the nomination in March 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>talk about ill-informed&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Richardson, who dropped out of the Democratic race in January, is to appear with Obama on Friday at a campaign event in Portland, Ore., The Associated Press has learned.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hell yes Richardson stabbed the Clinton&#8217;s in the back big time.</p>
<p>get your information straight before you spout off that Richardson waited until Obama got the nomination, unless you freakin&#8217; believe that Obama won the nomination in March 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: let&#8217;s have a NQ town hall on health care! : NO QUARTER</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245205</link>
		<dc:creator>let&#8217;s have a NQ town hall on health care! : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with so many in Washington in the pockets of pharmaceutical companies, insurance and medical industries&#8230;is this even possible? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with so many in Washington in the pockets of pharmaceutical companies, insurance and medical industries&#8230;is this even possible? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245143</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Huffpo Pharma Memo story has at least one skeptic - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2009/08/smoking-memoor-bad-journalism.html#more&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Maggie Mahar.&lt;/a&gt;

Yesterday, it seemed that the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim had a scoop. He reported that Huffington has obtained a memo that “confirms” that the White House and the pharmaceutical lobby secretly made a deal—the deal that I wrote about a few days ago in a post titled “What Was Billy Tauzin Thinking?”  According to the memo, the White House supposedly pledged to oppose any Congressional efforts to let Medicare negotiate for discounts on drugs, or to import drugs from Canada.

The memo in question turns out to be typed—and unsigned.  How does the reporter know that it is authentic?  “A knowledgeable health care lobbyist” told him so. According to the lobbyist the memo “was prepared by a person directly involved in the negotiations [and it] lists exactly what the White House gave up, and what it got in return.

Wait a minute. As PhRMA senior vice president Ken Johnson points out later in the story: “Anyone could have written it. Unless it comes from our board of directors, it&#039;s not worth the paper it&#039;s written on. . . .”

And who is the “knowledgeable lobbyist” who gave the memo to Huffington?  His name is not disclosed.

What we have then, is a story based on what one unnamed source says—and a typed memo that probably is untraceable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Huffpo Pharma Memo story has at least one skeptic &#8211; <a href="http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2009/08/smoking-memoor-bad-journalism.html#more" rel="nofollow"> Maggie Mahar.</a></p>
<p>Yesterday, it seemed that the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim had a scoop. He reported that Huffington has obtained a memo that “confirms” that the White House and the pharmaceutical lobby secretly made a deal—the deal that I wrote about a few days ago in a post titled “What Was Billy Tauzin Thinking?”  According to the memo, the White House supposedly pledged to oppose any Congressional efforts to let Medicare negotiate for discounts on drugs, or to import drugs from Canada.</p>
<p>The memo in question turns out to be typed—and unsigned.  How does the reporter know that it is authentic?  “A knowledgeable health care lobbyist” told him so. According to the lobbyist the memo “was prepared by a person directly involved in the negotiations [and it] lists exactly what the White House gave up, and what it got in return.</p>
<p>Wait a minute. As PhRMA senior vice president Ken Johnson points out later in the story: “Anyone could have written it. Unless it comes from our board of directors, it&#8217;s not worth the paper it&#8217;s written on. . . .”</p>
<p>And who is the “knowledgeable lobbyist” who gave the memo to Huffington?  His name is not disclosed.</p>
<p>What we have then, is a story based on what one unnamed source says—and a typed memo that probably is untraceable.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245132</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of a puppet.  Why did she give up her senate seat to be a Obama bootlicker?  She and Bill are part of the plan too, dont be fooled!  Bust America equality for all.  One world government (where they of course will live in the lap of luxery).
From each according to their ability, to each according to their need!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of a puppet.  Why did she give up her senate seat to be a Obama bootlicker?  She and Bill are part of the plan too, dont be fooled!  Bust America equality for all.  One world government (where they of course will live in the lap of luxery).<br />
From each according to their ability, to each according to their need!</p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245107</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wizard of Uh&#039;s has done it again. As the Travolta character in &quot;Swordfish&quot; explained: &quot;Misdirection, Stanley. Misdirection.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wizard of Uh&#8217;s has done it again. As the Travolta character in &#8220;Swordfish&#8221; explained: &#8220;Misdirection, Stanley. Misdirection.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BARB</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245105</link>
		<dc:creator>BARB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FUNNY AND MORE THAN A LITTLE SAD!

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/08/
top-ten-lies-about-my-health-care-plan.html


Wednesday, August 12, 2009

Top Ten Lies About My Health Care Plan, by President Barack H. Obama

10   According to the Congressional Budget Office, under the House bill, in the year 2015 about 8 million uninsured Americans would remain uninsured and pay higher taxes. This would violate my pledge not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than $250,000 per year. Conclusion: The CBO is lying.

9   The CBO says that the House bill would increase the budget deficit by $239 B over the next ten years. This conflicts with my goal of not increasing short-term deficits. Conclusion: The CBO is lying.

8   The CBO also says that under the House bill, about 3 million people who now have employer-sponsored health insurance would lose that coverage because their employer drops it, violating my bold promise that no one will lose the health plan they have now. Conclusion: The CBO is lying.

7   I have repeatedly assured the public that under the proposed health care reforms there will be no &quot;rationing,&quot; and that everyone will continue to receive the best available treatment options. Yet my previous statements and some of my top health care policy advisers have questioned the &quot;sustainability&quot; of expensive major medical procedures for the elderly or the terminally ill. Conclusion: My old self and my advisers were lying.

6   The CBO states that the House bill would increase long-term budget deficits by ever-increasing amounts, making our long-term debt problem even worse than it is today. This of course conflicts with my contention that “health care reform is entitlement reform,” and that health care reform is the lynchpin of spending within our means. Conclusion: The CBO is lying.

5   I recently stated that it is “outlandish” to suggest that I favor providing government-run healthcare for the tens of millions of illegal immigrants currently in the US. However, I also said I want healthcare reform done this year, and a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants passed in 2010. Conclusion: I&#039;m lying, but I forget which time it was.

4   The office of Senator Robert Menendez and La Raza have asserted that illegal immigrants care more about health care reform than &#039;amnesty&#039;; that &quot;the useless barriers of citizenship would not be in this bill&quot;; and that &quot;If the American people find out that this bill is about giving health care to non-citizens, they will rise up against it.&quot; Conclusion: Menendez&#039; office and La Raza are both lying.

3   The President’s Medicare Commission proposal would probably save about $2 billion over ten years, and a significant concern that it would save no money at all. Conclusion: The CBO is lying.

2   In my 10 August 2009 &quot;town hall&quot; meeting, I flatly stated that, &quot;I have not said that I am a supporter of a single-payer system.&quot;

However, an uncut, unedited AFL-CIO video clip from 2003 shows me saying, &quot;I happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare plan... A single-payer universal healthcare plan - that&#039;s what I&#039;d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we got to take back the White House, and we got to take back the Senate, and we got to take back the House.&quot; Conclusion: I was misquoted, taken out of context and redacted, but am telling the truth now.

1   During the campaign, I promised a series of open and honest health care reform debates to be broadcast on CSPAN. I committed that health care reform debates would never be held behind closed doors; that the details would be openly discussed; and that public access to the debate process would ensure that special interests could not influence reform bills. At that time, I believed the American people deserved to know exactly what was to be included in any health care reform legislation voted on by Congress. Conclusion: I was lying then, but I promise that I am telling the truth now.

I demand that anyone responsible for these lies be held to account!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FUNNY AND MORE THAN A LITTLE SAD!</p>
<p>    <a href="http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/08/" rel="nofollow">http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/08/</a><br />
top-ten-lies-about-my-health-care-plan.html</p>
<p>Wednesday, August 12, 2009</p>
<p>Top Ten Lies About My Health Care Plan, by President Barack H. Obama</p>
<p>10   According to the Congressional Budget Office, under the House bill, in the year 2015 about 8 million uninsured Americans would remain uninsured and pay higher taxes. This would violate my pledge not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than $250,000 per year. Conclusion: The CBO is lying.</p>
<p>9   The CBO says that the House bill would increase the budget deficit by $239 B over the next ten years. This conflicts with my goal of not increasing short-term deficits. Conclusion: The CBO is lying.</p>
<p>8   The CBO also says that under the House bill, about 3 million people who now have employer-sponsored health insurance would lose that coverage because their employer drops it, violating my bold promise that no one will lose the health plan they have now. Conclusion: The CBO is lying.</p>
<p>7   I have repeatedly assured the public that under the proposed health care reforms there will be no &#8220;rationing,&#8221; and that everyone will continue to receive the best available treatment options. Yet my previous statements and some of my top health care policy advisers have questioned the &#8220;sustainability&#8221; of expensive major medical procedures for the elderly or the terminally ill. Conclusion: My old self and my advisers were lying.</p>
<p>6   The CBO states that the House bill would increase long-term budget deficits by ever-increasing amounts, making our long-term debt problem even worse than it is today. This of course conflicts with my contention that “health care reform is entitlement reform,” and that health care reform is the lynchpin of spending within our means. Conclusion: The CBO is lying.</p>
<p>5   I recently stated that it is “outlandish” to suggest that I favor providing government-run healthcare for the tens of millions of illegal immigrants currently in the US. However, I also said I want healthcare reform done this year, and a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants passed in 2010. Conclusion: I&#8217;m lying, but I forget which time it was.</p>
<p>4   The office of Senator Robert Menendez and La Raza have asserted that illegal immigrants care more about health care reform than &#8216;amnesty&#8217;; that &#8220;the useless barriers of citizenship would not be in this bill&#8221;; and that &#8220;If the American people find out that this bill is about giving health care to non-citizens, they will rise up against it.&#8221; Conclusion: Menendez&#8217; office and La Raza are both lying.</p>
<p>3   The President’s Medicare Commission proposal would probably save about $2 billion over ten years, and a significant concern that it would save no money at all. Conclusion: The CBO is lying.</p>
<p>2   In my 10 August 2009 &#8220;town hall&#8221; meeting, I flatly stated that, &#8220;I have not said that I am a supporter of a single-payer system.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, an uncut, unedited AFL-CIO video clip from 2003 shows me saying, &#8220;I happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare plan&#8230; A single-payer universal healthcare plan &#8211; that&#8217;s what I&#8217;d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we got to take back the White House, and we got to take back the Senate, and we got to take back the House.&#8221; Conclusion: I was misquoted, taken out of context and redacted, but am telling the truth now.</p>
<p>1   During the campaign, I promised a series of open and honest health care reform debates to be broadcast on CSPAN. I committed that health care reform debates would never be held behind closed doors; that the details would be openly discussed; and that public access to the debate process would ensure that special interests could not influence reform bills. At that time, I believed the American people deserved to know exactly what was to be included in any health care reform legislation voted on by Congress. Conclusion: I was lying then, but I promise that I am telling the truth now.</p>
<p>I demand that anyone responsible for these lies be held to account!</p>
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		<title>By: standard</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245103</link>
		<dc:creator>standard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m proud to say that our very own Congressman Weiner hit the nail on the head on Morning Joe.
Weiner said &quot;Let&#039;s expand MEDICARE for all Americans.&quot;

Absolutely, hands-down the most brilliant idea yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m proud to say that our very own Congressman Weiner hit the nail on the head on Morning Joe.<br />
Weiner said &#8220;Let&#8217;s expand MEDICARE for all Americans.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely, hands-down the most brilliant idea yet.</p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245101</link>
		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are my requests for an article on the c z a r s being filtered out? 

There are now 44 of them.  The ones that are now in line to be filled are.

Income redistribution 
Land-use
Mortgage  formally &quot;consumer financial protection &quot;  
Radio-internet fairness 
Student loan , to oversee a program of mandatory service in return for college money  
Voter list 
Zoning 

Am I the only one that is worried about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are my requests for an article on the c z a r s being filtered out? </p>
<p>There are now 44 of them.  The ones that are now in line to be filled are.</p>
<p>Income redistribution<br />
Land-use<br />
Mortgage  formally &#8220;consumer financial protection &#8221;<br />
Radio-internet fairness<br />
Student loan , to oversee a program of mandatory service in return for college money<br />
Voter list<br />
Zoning </p>
<p>Am I the only one that is worried about this?</p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245100</link>
		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of czars I wish someone would do an article about this subject. I have tried to post this request several times and I don&#039;t think it made it through the filter.

There are now 44 of them.  The ones that are now in line to be filled are.

Income redistribution 
Land-use
Mortgage  formally &quot;consumer financial protection czar&quot;  
Radio-internet fairness 
Student loan , to oversee a program of mandatory service in return for college money  
Voter list 
Zoning 

Am I the only one that is worried about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of czars I wish someone would do an article about this subject. I have tried to post this request several times and I don&#8217;t think it made it through the filter.</p>
<p>There are now 44 of them.  The ones that are now in line to be filled are.</p>
<p>Income redistribution<br />
Land-use<br />
Mortgage  formally &#8220;consumer financial protection czar&#8221;<br />
Radio-internet fairness<br />
Student loan , to oversee a program of mandatory service in return for college money<br />
Voter list<br />
Zoning </p>
<p>Am I the only one that is worried about this?</p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245097</link>
		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;AARP loses members over health care stance&lt;/strong&gt;

WASHINGTON (AP) — About 60,000 senior citizens have quit AARP since July 1 due to the group&#039;s support for a health care overhaul, a spokesman for the organization said Monday.
The membership loss suggests dissatisfaction on the part of AARP members at a time when many senior citizens are concerned about proposed cuts to Medicare providers to help pay for making health care available for all. But spokesman Drew Nannis said it wasn&#039;t unusual for the powerful, 40 million-strong senior citizens&#039; lobby to shed members in droves when it&#039;s advocating on a controversial issue.

AARP is strongly backing a health care overhaul, running ads to support it and hosting President Obama at an online forum recently to promote his agenda to AARP members. However, the group has not endorsed a specific bill and says it won&#039;t support a plan that reduces Medicare benefits.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-08-17-aarp-health-overhaul_N.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>AARP loses members over health care stance</strong></p>
<p>WASHINGTON (AP) — About 60,000 senior citizens have quit AARP since July 1 due to the group&#8217;s support for a health care overhaul, a spokesman for the organization said Monday.<br />
The membership loss suggests dissatisfaction on the part of AARP members at a time when many senior citizens are concerned about proposed cuts to Medicare providers to help pay for making health care available for all. But spokesman Drew Nannis said it wasn&#8217;t unusual for the powerful, 40 million-strong senior citizens&#8217; lobby to shed members in droves when it&#8217;s advocating on a controversial issue.</p>
<p>AARP is strongly backing a health care overhaul, running ads to support it and hosting President Obama at an online forum recently to promote his agenda to AARP members. However, the group has not endorsed a specific bill and says it won&#8217;t support a plan that reduces Medicare benefits.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-08-17-aarp-health-overhaul_N.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-08-17-aarp-health-overhaul_N.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245085</link>
		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think they&#039;ve already got &quot;a pair.&quot;  that&#039;s why they like screwing the american people so much.  what they need is some integrity and a refresher course on the fact that they work for US, not for the enrichment of themselves and their well-connected fat-cat friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think they&#8217;ve already got &#8220;a pair.&#8221;  that&#8217;s why they like screwing the american people so much.  what they need is some integrity and a refresher course on the fact that they work for US, not for the enrichment of themselves and their well-connected fat-cat friends.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s what it looks like, alright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s what it looks like, alright.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30409/reforming-for-profits/#comment-1245031</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he never stabbed hillary or bill in the back or anywhere else.  he supported Hillary totally until Obama got the nomination - said he was sort of on the fence, but would NOT support Obama throughout the primaries.

get your information straight before you spout off like the ill-informed obama-hater you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he never stabbed hillary or bill in the back or anywhere else.  he supported Hillary totally until Obama got the nomination &#8211; said he was sort of on the fence, but would NOT support Obama throughout the primaries.</p>
<p>get your information straight before you spout off like the ill-informed obama-hater you are.</p>
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