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		<title>By: Continuing a lost cause&#8230; &#171; worldaroundlove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Continuing a lost cause&#8230; &#171; worldaroundlove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] most people feel like that is the way it is supposed to be, according to Mr. Larry C. Johnson of No Quarter. Mr. Johnson shares with us that the situation for married women doesn&#8217;t seem to have changed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] most people feel like that is the way it is supposed to be, according to Mr. Larry C. Johnson of No Quarter. Mr. Johnson shares with us that the situation for married women doesn&#8217;t seem to have changed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Wynne</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245518</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Wynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been paying close attention to the women of our armed forces who are raped by their fellow soldiers!

While we continue to get reports thrust upon us such as &quot;women should lose themselves in their man...&quot;, we NEVER seem to get any reports about the atrocities suffered by our female soldiers.  We all recognize the great sacrifice our soldiers give to protect our freedom, but it seems the women pay an even greater sacrifice than the men for serving their country.

This should be brought out into the mainstream and stopped!  Why is this still happening and why are journalist keeping mum about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been paying close attention to the women of our armed forces who are raped by their fellow soldiers!</p>
<p>While we continue to get reports thrust upon us such as &#8220;women should lose themselves in their man&#8230;&#8221;, we NEVER seem to get any reports about the atrocities suffered by our female soldiers.  We all recognize the great sacrifice our soldiers give to protect our freedom, but it seems the women pay an even greater sacrifice than the men for serving their country.</p>
<p>This should be brought out into the mainstream and stopped!  Why is this still happening and why are journalist keeping mum about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Amalia</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245417</link>
		<dc:creator>Amalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this survey prompts all sorts of thoughts.  i do think it may accurately 
reflect women of this generation in perhaps even northern cities.  based
on the sexist rants of the boys on the blogs during the 2008 primaries,
these are the young men young women encounter.  and may date. yuk,
but it may influence their thinking.

since they are so into Obama and wow isn&#039;t electing a black man great 
for our country,perhaps they will find it ironic that taking the name
of a man upon marriage comes from the English custom of taking
a man&#039;s name because you became his property in marriage.  yuk on
that too. slavery for women, economic powerlessness (which Stephen
Douglas wrote about in conjunction with working with women on
abolition of african american slavery issues), all are held as symbol
in the now custom of taking a man&#039;s name.   laws may vary by state as
to actual economic state of women.  I&#039;m not a senior citizen and within
my adult lifetime, marriedwomen have struggled to maintain their own credit
status.  that&#039;s still economic enslavement.  and laws used to vary by
state as to requirement for taking a man&#039;s name upon marriage. In
Illinois there was a group called the Center for a Woman&#039;s Name.

maiden name.....let&#039;s just eradicate that term.  what&#039;s the corresponding
term for men?  right, there isn&#039;t one.  because maiden name means name
when she was a maiden, as in virginal, and that is just crap, women
being held to a sexuality standard.   birth name.  birth name. birth name.
it applies to anyone, man or woman.

sometimes they call me by my husband&#039;s last name, his birth name.  sometimes I challenge, sometimes you are in a hospital waiting for
his parents.  Read Anna Quindlen&#039;s beautiful essay on a woman&#039;s name.  she
really says it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this survey prompts all sorts of thoughts.  i do think it may accurately<br />
reflect women of this generation in perhaps even northern cities.  based<br />
on the sexist rants of the boys on the blogs during the 2008 primaries,<br />
these are the young men young women encounter.  and may date. yuk,<br />
but it may influence their thinking.</p>
<p>since they are so into Obama and wow isn&#8217;t electing a black man great<br />
for our country,perhaps they will find it ironic that taking the name<br />
of a man upon marriage comes from the English custom of taking<br />
a man&#8217;s name because you became his property in marriage.  yuk on<br />
that too. slavery for women, economic powerlessness (which Stephen<br />
Douglas wrote about in conjunction with working with women on<br />
abolition of african american slavery issues), all are held as symbol<br />
in the now custom of taking a man&#8217;s name.   laws may vary by state as<br />
to actual economic state of women.  I&#8217;m not a senior citizen and within<br />
my adult lifetime, marriedwomen have struggled to maintain their own credit<br />
status.  that&#8217;s still economic enslavement.  and laws used to vary by<br />
state as to requirement for taking a man&#8217;s name upon marriage. In<br />
Illinois there was a group called the Center for a Woman&#8217;s Name.</p>
<p>maiden name&#8230;..let&#8217;s just eradicate that term.  what&#8217;s the corresponding<br />
term for men?  right, there isn&#8217;t one.  because maiden name means name<br />
when she was a maiden, as in virginal, and that is just crap, women<br />
being held to a sexuality standard.   birth name.  birth name. birth name.<br />
it applies to anyone, man or woman.</p>
<p>sometimes they call me by my husband&#8217;s last name, his birth name.  sometimes I challenge, sometimes you are in a hospital waiting for<br />
his parents.  Read Anna Quindlen&#8217;s beautiful essay on a woman&#8217;s name.  she<br />
really says it all.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245347</link>
		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodofMU5pEs&amp;eurl
video of Afghanistan women protesting Karzai&#039;s evil law being mobbed by psychos who like the law</description>
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video of Afghanistan women protesting Karzai&#8217;s evil law being mobbed by psychos who like the law</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245267</link>
		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, whatever.  but no thanks, i&#039;m not interested in buying that bridge you&#039;re selling...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, whatever.  but no thanks, i&#8217;m not interested in buying that bridge you&#8217;re selling&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245265</link>
		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with the daughters taking the mother&#039;s name and sons taking the father&#039;s name idea.  it seems like the only practical, fair way to do it.  

but as far as women who are already given their father&#039;s last name, i think it is still an advance if they keep that name at marriage instead of taking their husband&#039;s.  the cycle has to stop somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with the daughters taking the mother&#8217;s name and sons taking the father&#8217;s name idea.  it seems like the only practical, fair way to do it.  </p>
<p>but as far as women who are already given their father&#8217;s last name, i think it is still an advance if they keep that name at marriage instead of taking their husband&#8217;s.  the cycle has to stop somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245259</link>
		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly, but women&#039;s rights aren&#039;t really &quot;human rights,&quot; you know.  (sarcasm.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly, but women&#8217;s rights aren&#8217;t really &#8220;human rights,&#8221; you know.  (sarcasm.)</p>
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		<title>By: ~~JustMe~~</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245235</link>
		<dc:creator>~~JustMe~~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who u talking to pm317? I am ~~Justme~~ been posting a NQ for months was away for a while there is also another Just me.... we discussed our names months ago so I added ~~ JustMe~~ to my name?

I did post last week on the post of Larry’s I am originally from the UK?????? I could say a great deal on healthcare but at this point what it will do but bring out the ones who would never believe what was said on UK healthcare...and I do not want to get into a brawl......I have seen some of the comments here regarding the Brits etc.

However my 78 yr old mother has great care. Dialysis 3 times a week been on it since she was 70 they do not as advertized here throw them to the gutter at 70 in the UK. 

My friend’s mother was on it here they never got the shunt to work correctly…… had to make her own way to treatment she was in constant pain, hence came off it and died 3 weeks later. Just one comparison to healthcare here and there. 

Both countries have amazing Drs but what u all get told here is not what I have experienced/seen/know in the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who u talking to pm317? I am ~~Justme~~ been posting a NQ for months was away for a while there is also another Just me&#8230;. we discussed our names months ago so I added ~~ JustMe~~ to my name?</p>
<p>I did post last week on the post of Larry’s I am originally from the UK?????? I could say a great deal on healthcare but at this point what it will do but bring out the ones who would never believe what was said on UK healthcare&#8230;and I do not want to get into a brawl&#8230;&#8230;I have seen some of the comments here regarding the Brits etc.</p>
<p>However my 78 yr old mother has great care. Dialysis 3 times a week been on it since she was 70 they do not as advertized here throw them to the gutter at 70 in the UK. </p>
<p>My friend’s mother was on it here they never got the shunt to work correctly…… had to make her own way to treatment she was in constant pain, hence came off it and died 3 weeks later. Just one comparison to healthcare here and there. </p>
<p>Both countries have amazing Drs but what u all get told here is not what I have experienced/seen/know in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245229</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well all right now, NomNom.

I see you!!

:lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well all right now, NomNom.</p>
<p>I see you!!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245225</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.

I knew a guy who said that America needs to stop telling other countries that female genital  mutilation is wrong, and to stay out of cultural matters.

Cultural matters!!

That should be considered a crime against human rights!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.</p>
<p>I knew a guy who said that America needs to stop telling other countries that female genital  mutilation is wrong, and to stay out of cultural matters.</p>
<p>Cultural matters!!</p>
<p>That should be considered a crime against human rights!!</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245222</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I would have never guessed that sooo many American felt this way.

Maybe this is why Hillary caught so much heat for keeping her name when she was First Lady in the 90&#039;s.

Half want it to be legal requirement to take the husband&#039;s name??

damn.

I didn&#039;t know it was like THAT!!

geeez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I would have never guessed that sooo many American felt this way.</p>
<p>Maybe this is why Hillary caught so much heat for keeping her name when she was First Lady in the 90&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Half want it to be legal requirement to take the husband&#8217;s name??</p>
<p>damn.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know it was like THAT!!</p>
<p>geeez.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245144</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because she CHOOSE to take MY last name..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because she CHOOSE to take MY last name..</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/30539/women-should-lose-themselves-in-men/#comment-1245130</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct, Iorac.  Nor did I say anything of the kind.  Not even close.  It was much more the assumption that women should be relegated to invisibility by &quot;losing themselves&quot; to their husbands and their husbands family.  I think I said that quite clearly.

And whether a woman CHOOSES to take her husband&#039;s name should be her CHOICE, not a law.  I said that quite clearly, too.

Patrick Henry, we typically do not ban people simply for disagreeing with the writers.  It is when people attack us PERSONALLY that they can get banned.  You are getting close with the major one above, but we are loathe to ban people, especially regulars.  I am going to assume you were having a hard day.

That being said, considering some of your other very positive comments regarding other posts, I am taken aback by the level of vitriol in your comment to me.  I don&#039;t deserve that, neither does this blog.

All I can say is that you, and Seattle Moss, have completely missed the point of the post.  The hurt feelings you are expressing are real, I know, but I did not write what you seem to think I did.  Take a deep breath, and read it again, please.  And try to not lash out at me again, please.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct, Iorac.  Nor did I say anything of the kind.  Not even close.  It was much more the assumption that women should be relegated to invisibility by &#8220;losing themselves&#8221; to their husbands and their husbands family.  I think I said that quite clearly.</p>
<p>And whether a woman CHOOSES to take her husband&#8217;s name should be her CHOICE, not a law.  I said that quite clearly, too.</p>
<p>Patrick Henry, we typically do not ban people simply for disagreeing with the writers.  It is when people attack us PERSONALLY that they can get banned.  You are getting close with the major one above, but we are loathe to ban people, especially regulars.  I am going to assume you were having a hard day.</p>
<p>That being said, considering some of your other very positive comments regarding other posts, I am taken aback by the level of vitriol in your comment to me.  I don&#8217;t deserve that, neither does this blog.</p>
<p>All I can say is that you, and Seattle Moss, have completely missed the point of the post.  The hurt feelings you are expressing are real, I know, but I did not write what you seem to think I did.  Take a deep breath, and read it again, please.  And try to not lash out at me again, please.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Wynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Wynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really blows me away is the total disregard for the present day reality that has been facing families for some time now -- the majority of households cannot survive without a second income.  In fact, with the crappy economy, reports show the job loss has hit men the hardest.  What would have happened to these families, if the wife had &quot;lost herself in her husband&quot; and did not work outside the home?  

This report has patriarchy written all over it. You won&#039;t hear reports on how the majority of women who do work outside the home, also do the lion&#039;s share of the housework and child care. Boy, I don&#039;t know what women would do without the help of their husbands!

So, we&#039;re back to women helping bring home the bacon and frying it up in a pan too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really blows me away is the total disregard for the present day reality that has been facing families for some time now &#8212; the majority of households cannot survive without a second income.  In fact, with the crappy economy, reports show the job loss has hit men the hardest.  What would have happened to these families, if the wife had &#8220;lost herself in her husband&#8221; and did not work outside the home?  </p>
<p>This report has patriarchy written all over it. You won&#8217;t hear reports on how the majority of women who do work outside the home, also do the lion&#8217;s share of the housework and child care. Boy, I don&#8217;t know what women would do without the help of their husbands!</p>
<p>So, we&#8217;re back to women helping bring home the bacon and frying it up in a pan too!</p>
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		<title>By: HC123</title>
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		<dc:creator>HC123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should definately stay Patrick. 

This is America. 

Why I like America is that things are not zero-sum here, the people generally do not have that mindset (as they do in most other places I have lived). The mindset is more that everyone can win here, we can all grow and better ourselves without robbing each other. 

This includes women, who should be free to conduct themselves as they see fit as far as their personal lives go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should definately stay Patrick. </p>
<p>This is America. </p>
<p>Why I like America is that things are not zero-sum here, the people generally do not have that mindset (as they do in most other places I have lived). The mindset is more that everyone can win here, we can all grow and better ourselves without robbing each other. </p>
<p>This includes women, who should be free to conduct themselves as they see fit as far as their personal lives go.</p>
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