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Is Tim Russert More Worthy Than John Aragon?

There are many families weeping in America today. A beloved, cherished member of the family is dead. I am thinking of Sgt. John D. Aragon, 22, of Antioch, Calif., who died June 12 in Kadamiyah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered an improvised explosive device. As the Washington media and political establishment mourn the passing of Tim Russert, behaving as if the Pope had died, we should also remember that Tim Russert did not serve the public interest when it really counted. He did a classy job of hosting Meet the Press, but at the end of the day he avoided substantive challenges to the Administration’s propaganda campaign to make the case for war in Iraq. And John Aragon has now paid the ultimate price.

Tim Russert is not responsible for the decision to invade Iraq–that rests on the shoulders of George Bush. But Russert was a ringmaster in the media circus that helped build public support for the invasion. The so-called “tough” questioning of Cheney might have meant something if Tim, as news director, could have put people on the air and given them comparable time to challenge the Administration’s policy. But he did not. He was playing the role of Jay Leno without the jokes–hosting a talk show–but declining to hold folks accountable for flat out lies. Russert had a bully pulpit but declined to use it. Russert was not the only one. But he was positioned uniquely to help shape public perceptions and his influence in Washington was such that he could have made a difference.. But he did not. He played it safe and he catered to the powerful.

Check out the transcript of Russert’s so-called grilling of Dick Cheney in September 2002 as the specter of nuclear war was introduced as a casus belli for attacking Iraq:

MR. RUSSERT: He does not have a nuclear weapon now?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: I can’t say that. I can say that I know for sure that he’s trying to acquire the capability. But again, you know, if this-some people say, “Well, if you’re going to use this process, if you’re going to go through the enrichment process, it could take five, six years maybe.” But then the question is: “Well, when did he start?” Did he start back when the inspection regime was still under way, prior to ’98? Because he did have, for example, a robust biological weapons program then, even though there were inspectors present. Did he start in ’98 when the inspectors left? Has he had four years already to work on this process? Or is he only beginning now? We don’t know that. We can’t tell what the start date is. We do know that he is, in fact, embarked upon this venture. We don’t have any way to know, at this point, to specify the date by which he will actually have a weapon he can use.

MR. RUSSERT: There seems to be a real debate in the country as to his capability. This is how The New York Times reported comments by Senator Chuck Hagel, a Republican, who said, “The Central Intelligence Agency had ‘absolutely no evidence’ that Iraq possess or will soon possess nuclear weapons.” Is that accurate?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: I disagree. I think the accurate thing to say is we don’t know when he might actually complete that process. All of the experience we have points in the direction that, in the past, we’ve underestimated the extent of his program. We’ve underestimated the speed at which it was developing. It’s important for people to understand, as well, too, the difficult nature of the target here, in an intelligence perspective. This is a guy who runs a totally controlled system. There is no-he doesn’t have to go to Congress to get funds appropriated to build a system. It’s a dictatorship. Secondly, it’s a police state. He runs a very brutal regime. Third, he has been very good at denial and deception. He’s good at hiding whatever he’s doing from public view. And therefore, as an intelligence target, it’s an especially difficult proposition for us.

We have a tendency-I don’t know if it’s part of the part of the American character-to say, “Well, we’ll sit down and we’ll evaluate the evidence. We’ll draw a conclusion.” But we always think in terms that we’ve got all the evidence. Here, we don’t have all the evidence. We have 10 percent, 20 percent, 30 percent. We don’t know how much. We know we have a part of the picture. And that part of the picture tells us that he is, in fact, actively and aggressively seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.

Tim Russert, like many of the Washington elite, had the joy of celebrating his son’s graduation from college. Meanwhile, another young man who is about the age of Russert’s son–John Aragon–gave his life serving his country. While I empathize with the terrible loss suffered by the Russert family, I find the public wailing by the media about Tim Russert unseemly. The media now, with a few exceptions, ignore our soldiers dying in a war they helped sell. In the tragedy of Russert’s unexpected death I simply wish the media would find the decency to serve the public good.

Russert’s passing reminds us of an unfortunate truth–it is celebrity not actual accomplishment that counts. A 22 year old soldier dying in the line of duty in Iraq is inconsequential because the media has not employed its resources to introduce him to the American people. Let’s remember that like the family and friends of Tim Russert, the family and friends of John Aragon also weep. Sgt. Aragon, we salute your service.

  • Mark

    Can’t say I give a shit about Russert. He decided to be a piece of crap when he was alive, I am not going to mourn his passing nor pretend he was a great man.

  • AF catfish

    The media reporters worked along side him and for a while he was probably pretty good.

    But he lost his edge when Bush was running against Gore and he never regained it.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

    Thank you for this moving tribute to John Aragon who represents, at least to me, the many young men and women who are serving and sacrificing for this country.

    The media whores serve those who bring the highest revenue. Plain and simple, Russert et al have been bought and sold.

  • AF catfish

    Fight the smears website is now gone. It redirects to Obama’s homepage.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    *heh*

    I swear….they are reading us and get it. LOL*

  • Linda

    Very well said, and correct.

    American Media, Not Providing Public Service

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Excellent analysis, Larry. The softball that looks like the hardball isn’t real.

    George St. who stopped Obama when he was trying to distance from negative campaigning and said, “Well, your staff said it, so that’s you. Right?”

    That’s a soft hard-ball. It knocks off the BS.

    George is a much better journalist.

    And the Obama crowd went nuts, of course.

    Tim never evoked that reaction.

  • Craig

    From this extended Cheney quote, it appears that Cheney went out of his way to emphasize “fuzzy” nature of the intelligence. He didn’t say “we know for sure” or “it’s certain.” In essense, he said our knowledge was 30% at best! And, he laid out all the stuff we didn’t know and why. I really don’t see how statements like these could be said to validate the idea that Bush&Co “cherry-picked” or “oversold.”

  • karen for Clinton

    Thanks for some sanity Larry. I worked today but there was a TV on in another room and everytime I walked past it for 8 hours they were all talking about him. I kept wondering WTF?

    Massive fires, earthquake and flooding were scrolled.

    The unimportant millions of “little people” who were going through unspeakable tragedy will have to wait for news of their loved ones – while they pay tribute to a …….

  • McBush

    This article is weak at best!!! Why stop at the Sgt., is his life any more worthy than the 4000+ that died before him. NQ’s treatment of the death of Tim Russert and the rhetoric surrounded it is shameful to say the least. No dignity here at NQ. No Godliness. Most supporters of NQ were denigrating the man less than a few hours after he died. And now the insuation by Secret Squirrel that Mr. Russert is somehow culpable for the war is just downright despicable. But I expect no less from you bunch of losers.

  • roseeriter

    Its the American idol idolotry mindset at work regarding days of Russert. Some how if someone, anyone, is on tv in the movies plays sports, drives Nascar or sings they are treated like they are better and more important than any one else. I might add novelty politicians like Obama in that mix.

    Sad commentary on human beings but then it is souless corporations running the show..

  • rjj

    I am still in mourning for Lars-Erik Nelson. That was a mensch.

  • tootsky

    Its posts like this that remind me why I started reading this site. Larry, take the site back to what it was.

  • rjj

    and a loss.

  • karen for Clinton

    Are you under 25? Suffer from obamatrance? Ill informed of media manipulation?

    no GODLINESS… hmmmm you mean like wright, ayers, pflager, rezko, blago, axelrod and obama?

    You mean like the people who actually SAW him tout the war? Go read the recent studies which show NBC was the biggest promotor.

    Losers? Have fun in November obamatroll.

  • Susan1968

    Wow!

    Any word on why they took the “Fight The Smears” site down?

  • Outsider

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., ,and former President Bill Clinton
    “We were stunned and deeply saddened to hear of the passing today of Tim Russert. Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife Maureen, his son Luke, his father who we all have come to know as Big Russ, his extended family and all of his many friends and colleagues at NBC who have suffered a tremendous loss. Always true to his proud Buffalo roots, Tim had a love of public service and a dedication to journalism that rightfully earned him the respect and admiration of not only his colleagues but also those of us who had the privilege to go toe to toe with him. In seeking answers to tough questions, he helped inform the American people and make our democracy stronger. We join his friends, fans and loved ones in mourning his loss and celebrating his remarkable contribution to our nation. “

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    My guess is we nailed it. It’s unprofessional.

    Hillary had a FactsHub on her site. She addressed daily misstatements by Obama, backed it up.

    It was very professional and well done.

    This? This was an incitement to troll.

    Frankly, if his trolls get more outrageous, there will be arrests made and lots of bad publicity.

    It will go right back to Obama and his methodology.

    There will be some arrests made, I predict.

  • J Cardozo

    From the posted article”

    But he was positioned uniquely to help shape public perceptions and his influence in Washington was such that he could have made a difference.. But he did not.”

    It is the duty of a journalist to present facts free of personal bias. It is the duty of the commentator or editorialist to present opinion based on those facts.

    If Russert’s role on Meet the Press was strictly one of journalist, then he was not positioned to shape public perception, but positioned only to elicit facts, whatever facts the interviewee chooses to elicit in response to a question. It is thus up to the viewer to decide the merit of those facts.

    If Russet’s role on Meet the Press was instead intended to shape public opinion, then he he also did do so. Because the opinion he intended to shape is contrary to the opinion others may wish to see expressed is irrelevant in an assessment of professional integrity.

  • Outsider

    Uh, you can still get to “Fight the Smears”

    http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    All of the media especially NBC is saying that they looked up to Russert because he set the standard, and he was the one everyone wanted to emulate.

    What really happened in the media is that everyone began emulating Larry King and Oprah, and asking softball, please love me questions of their guests.

    When everyone loves you must not be posing the hard questions.

    I liked Tim, he was smart and thoughtful, but he went too far not to offend and as a result did not perform the investigative duty needed to vet our way of government.

    Our Country must have a vigilant press for this country to persevere. We have lost it when the Media Elite becomes all about Oprah like popularity and ratings.

  • Elizabeth Reilly

    Russert’s death should have been acknowledged, observed, but not for hours and hours and,( being into the second day), for days on end. Today, Andrea Mitchell was still talking only about him! This is beyond the bounds of decency and, at the risk of being called a ‘loser’ by someone whose opinion means didlysquat to me, I recognize what these media princes and princesses don’t get…that immoderation of this kind is totally out of place, rather Hollywoodesque in its scope and this need to publicly display (ad nauseum) their overblown’grief’ for one of their own is another form of exhibitionism. They have no class and frankly, I am honored to be posting at Larry’s site. He isn’t afraid of the powers that be, like the media obviously are.

  • Outsider

    Comment by Outsider | 2008-06-14 15:09:10

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., ,and former President Bill Clinton
    “We were stunned and deeply saddened to hear of the passing today of Tim Russert. Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife Maureen, his son Luke, his father who we all have come to know as Big Russ, his extended family and all of his many friends and colleagues at NBC who have suffered a tremendous loss. Always true to his proud Buffalo roots, Tim had a love of public service and a dedication to journalism that rightfully earned him the respect and admiration of not only his colleagues but also those of us who had the privilege to go toe to toe with him. In seeking answers to tough questions, he helped inform the American people and make our democracy stronger. We join his friends, fans and loved ones in mourning his loss and celebrating his remarkable contribution to our nation. “

  • McBush

    Karen for COH and LDI (church of Hill and latter day idiots) you sound like a fucking parrot!! Squawk wright, squawk ayers, squawk Pflegler.. Polly needs an IQ not a cracker. None of that has NOTHING to do with Tim Russert!! But in Hillary World where paranoia reigns supreme, somehow all that is attributable to Tim Russert. Secret Squirrel has the nerve to talk about the media coverage of Tim R. as “unseemly” without no mention of he numerous posters on this site who have cursed him in his death. What a contradiction!!

  • JULIE

    I used to like Russert until he pracitcally endorsed hussien obama. Dont know what the fuss is all about..we all have to go sometime..

  • karen for Clinton

    Read the comments little boy:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/09/iraq-meeting/

    real dems have been calling him a tool for years.

    why do YOU think he touted obama?

  • Susan1968

    In May, Chris Matthews was quoted as saying to Politico, GE-OWNED NBC/MSNBC was “basically” PRO-Iraq War and news was directed from that position.

    Quote:

    “And it was basically pro-war during the war.. the bosses were. And I was up against that.”

    End quote.

    Tim Russert — as the di-capo of NBC news — took his marching orders from the CEO of General Electric who was awarded big $$$ government contracts after we took over Iraq.

    I am sorry for Tim’s passing, sorry his son, wife and dad are suffering due to his loss.

    But RUSSERT is not a national hero.

  • Outsider
  • JULIE

    Larry Johnson for president!!

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    Astute analysis, Larry. And a singular breath of fresh air here on NQ, which has suffered a bit in the quality of many postings lately.

    Including some of mine.

    It would be good to be free of fellows who are gamy.

  • Outsider

    Take it easy, McBush. Hillary doesn’t agree with her supporters here on Russert. Unless she WAS LYING WHEN SHE SAID THE FOLLOWING:

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., ,and former President Bill Clinton
    “We were stunned and deeply saddened to hear of the passing today of Tim Russert. Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife Maureen, his son Luke, his father who we all have come to know as Big Russ, his extended family and all of his many friends and colleagues at NBC who have suffered a tremendous loss. Always true to his proud Buffalo roots, Tim had a love of public service and a dedication to journalism that rightfully earned him the respect and admiration of not only his colleagues but also those of us who had the privilege to go toe to toe with him. In seeking answers to tough questions, he helped inform the American people and make our democracy stronger. We join his friends, fans and loved ones in mourning his loss and celebrating his remarkable contribution to our nation. “

  • Susan1968

    Oh good. I enjoy using their mail server to send out anti-Obama information!

    Thanks.

  • Outsider

    Karen for Clinton,

    Are you implying Hillary is not a real dem??!!???? After all, she said this:
    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., ,and former President Bill Clinton
    “We were stunned and deeply saddened to hear of the passing today of Tim Russert. Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife Maureen, his son Luke, his father who we all have come to know as Big Russ, his extended family and all of his many friends and colleagues at NBC who have suffered a tremendous loss. Always true to his proud Buffalo roots, Tim had a love of public service and a dedication to journalism that rightfully earned him the respect and admiration of not only his colleagues but also those of us who had the privilege to go toe to toe with him. In seeking answers to tough questions, he helped inform the American people and make our democracy stronger. We join his friends, fans and loved ones in mourning his loss and celebrating his remarkable contribution to our nation. “

  • rjj

    Russert played by the rules – the Fair Game rules.

  • Gamot

    Where or when do we go to mourn of another at least as tragic loss:

    THE DEATH OF OBJECTIVE JOURNALISM!

  • Outsider

    Yea, well, Julie, now Hillary Clinton fully supports Obama as well. Plus, she said this about Russert:

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., ,and former President Bill Clinton
    “We were stunned and deeply saddened to hear of the passing today of Tim Russert. Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife Maureen, his son Luke, his father who we all have come to know as Big Russ, his extended family and all of his many friends and colleagues at NBC who have suffered a tremendous loss. Always true to his proud Buffalo roots, Tim had a love of public service and a dedication to journalism that rightfully earned him the respect and admiration of not only his colleagues but also those of us who had the privilege to go toe to toe with him. In seeking answers to tough questions, he helped inform the American people and make our democracy stronger. We join his friends, fans and loved ones in mourning his loss and celebrating his remarkable contribution to our nation. “

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    What was Obama’s statement?

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    That’s OK, Lou. We got to hear from one another with the great idea to let people post their best shot.

    I’ve enjoyed it a lot.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

    Uh, Outhouse is right, I guess BO’s not as swift as we tried to give him credit for, FTS is still there. Given what we know about BO, that site better stay there too. If by “smears” they mean the truth about the Poser they worship.

    Thank god for sites like NQ and others that do the work that Russert and his cronies don’t have the cajones to do.

  • Jack

    There is nothing more the major media loves to talk about than themselves.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    It’s because the 30% they based their case on, i.e. Mobile Weapons Labs, Yellow Cake, Aluminum Tubes were all BS. Take that away and you have ZERO percent. Hardly justification to go to war.

    Without WMD’s, all you have is a ruthless dictator. Not a good thing, but not something the US public or congress would have agreed to go to war on.

    That was the line that Russert and any other “reporter” should have been pressing.

    Russert and every other reporter made that BS about WMD’s believable.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Yeah….I’d give him that, rj.

    He balanced off his so-called hard-ball questions to each side.

    But he still never really penetrated the heart.

    He was a ..*yikes* pedantic to me.

    A mix of Fox News and Dan Rather.

    LOL*

    But still…..I hate hearing about men who drop over dead.

    I dated this guy at Tim’s age? Same thing.

    Scared me from dating!

  • McBush

    Outsider, it’s not HRC I have a problem with (mostly.. lol). I’ve said on numerous occasions that I would support her had she won. It’s her supporters, specifically here at NQ and LJ and Co that I have a problem with. They are lost in a cultist dementia that they can’t overcome.

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    ya see, outsider, here’s the difference between us and you all: we don’t automatically believe, think, and do everything the way our leader hillary clinton does. We think and act on our own based on what we each believe.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Amen…..or even each other! :)

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    Obama said “Ummm… Ahhh… I… you know, Hillary and I… ummm agree you know…. ahhhh…. I have always said…. um my position you know… ummmm. is the same…. ahhhh as Hillary’s.

  • rjj

    auditioning for Cirque de Soleil ?

  • karen for Clinton

    You called us ungodly and now you are calling me a parrot and making up stupid names about a man who has forgotten more than you will ever know.

    Just go away.

    In other news obama is quaking in his boots about having to debate (since he cannot speak without a teleprompter) and his trolls won’t even comprehend he is chosing 4th of July since nobody will be watching TV that day.

    IDIOTS for obummer.

  • uhh somehow this notion that I am qualified to be president is uhh uhh ridiculous

    The link works now.
    Interesting, his rebuttal to the “Lie” about his refusal to say the pledge of allegiance or put his hand over his heart is a video of him announcing the pledge of allegiance, but it is difficult to see if he recites it, and it appears he does not put his hand over his heart.Why bother?

    They also have his “birth certificate” up to refute the “Lie” that he will not release it. It is a copy of the proof of birth limited form and not a copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Again, why bother?

    Do they really believe voters will not see through this?

  • rjj

    I meant he respected who was Fair Game and who was not.

  • karen for Clinton

    Hillary is a diplomat you dipshit. She even had to muster up kind words for ob and Ted.

    I am not.

  • McBush

    Susan: A reasonable political position, much more compassionate human sentiment. Remind your NQ loons to try and separate the two. And as far as the coverage on MSNBC, those that knew him personally are entitled to mourn as long as they see fit. They owe you, I, or anyone else NOTHING.

  • Andrew

    I saw a sign that said $5.00 for a gallon of diesel and the news media talks about Russert. Now I don’t agree with Russert about Iraq and what not but I always feel that the media just love to bloviate over dead people. He was “not tough” questioning Nobama. He threw Hillary under the bus, declaring the primary over way before it was. While his family is celebrating in Italy, people in Iowa are scooting around in inflatable boats. Talk about the oil prices, about the fact that the US has the third largest oil reserves in the world and we can’t touch them, talk about the corrupt Dodd and Co. getting those “Friends of Angelo” mortgages, talk about Larry Sinclair. Stop talking about the news guy.

  • karen for Clinton

    Yeah the lovely people from that site who he gave access to speak for him from the campaign site are making death threats to Hillary supporters and progressives. Good PR there – truth in advertising. Ignorant thugs for ob will kill you after he is elected. Real nice.

  • Uppity Woman

    Haven’t seen this kind of 24/7 since Kennedy was shot.

    I mean he was big in his field, for sure. Very bright man, agree with him or not. But we aren’t talking riderless horse and Rotunda material here. Seriously.

    MSNBC is, I think, needing to do this for themselves. Can’t argue with the people who own the air waves. We should know that.

    Even as we speak, having been a part of that parent corporation, half those guys are positioning for that MTP job.

  • Uppity Woman

    You’re right. What little was left.

    I never thought of that.

  • Uppity Woman

    I bet that flight from Italy caused this. Seriously. Thousands of people die from thrombosis clots after exceptionally long flights sitting in one of those seats.

  • Susan1968

    Actually MSNBC owes their advertisers programming that attracts viewers who see their TV commercials.

    That’s all.

    We forget TV NEWS is created for ratings to attract and reatin advertiser’s’ dollars.

    NEWSPAPERS used to be the place to get OBJECTIVE journalism,

    But print media is suffering thanks to the net.

    Please don’t tell me how TV works. I’ve been in advertising & market 20 years.

    Every talking head on cable is skewing programming for ratings not “news.”

  • Uppity Woman

    I didn’t know that. I never went there. It’s gone?

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    My bet is on David Gregory…. He still has hints of objectivity, but I am sure he’ll tow the NBC line.

  • Uppity Woman

    It’s Hillary’s fault. We know. We know….

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Could be…..

    And even annual check-ups don’t always show the danger of heart problems.

  • uhh somehow this notion that I am qualified to be president is uhh uhh ridiculous

    Outsider,

    It is perfectly appropriate for Sen Clinton and President Clinton to extend their condolences to the Russert family. They actually knew him.

    What people are voicing an opinion on here, is that the media is overdoing it. Also, some of the backlash is a response to the bias Mr Russert has shown in his coverage.

  • BluDawg

    If Hillary’s army bugs you so much you could switch off your computer!

  • http://takeaction.wordpress.com/ A.Citizen

    My momma had the perfect saying for such as Russert:

    ‘Good riddance to bad rubbish.’

    They man was an enemy of all I believe in and I count it a good thing when one of the Fascist scum’s jaws clench the earth.

  • Uppity Woman

    Hey that would be me. Teddy lost me when he left Mary Jo in the Chappaquiddick. That was wayyyyy before Barky.

  • uhh somehow this notion that I am qualified to be president is uhh uhh ridiculous

    Sadly, his statement was pretty darn close to that.

  • Patrick Henry

    Larry…

    As usuaL…You are brutally Blunt and Honest and call it like you see it..some people admire the Nice Polished Apple..You always get to the Core to see if anything is rotten onj the Inside…

    Iadmire and respect that…

    Uppity..Interesting thoughts and perspective as usual..

    thanks…

  • Uppity Woman

    He stumbled all over himself yesterday when they stuck a mic in his face. He was a blithtering fool. So today he released a video of himself talking about Russert where he clearly read his speech. This guy can’t put two words together impromptu. The mark of a slow thinker.

  • Uppity Woman

    Barack Obama DEFINITELY cannot think on his feet.

  • http://minnesotavalues.blogspot.com Retired Spy

    You’re a Dick Head, Larry.

    Grow up and stop whining …. Hillary lost. Get over it!

  • Uppity Woman

    You know, newspapers are dying on the vine. They could make a comeback if they will take the lead in actually doing investigative reporting–instead of pandering

  • rwc

    Agreed.

    Russert was a opportunistic toad when we needed real reporters with a backbone, not White House stenographers.

    And as far as his death coverage goes, its right out of Soviet Russia. Given the amount of coverage you’d think that a great national hero has died rather then a glorified stenographer who doubled as a foot stool for the elite.

  • Vet4Hill

    They owe you, I, or anyone else NOTHING.
    THEY OWE US OBJECTIVE REPORTING
    , and “they can mourn as long as they see fit” on their own time you sanctomonious pisspot!

  • Uppity Woman

    You should watch us practice getting over it. You will need the practice in November.

  • Shainzona

    No, it’s still there,..see the link a couple of posts above.

  • Will Smith

    Pastor Manning is back. He says Barack Obama is an EMBASSARY OF THE DEVIL. He says Iran wil nuke Israel of the earth and Obama will do nothing. The speech is about COMING OF THE ANTI-CHRIST. Call for all Jewish people to boycott a list of news stations and other.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YzW7_c6XvU

  • McBush

    Agreed, so if there is any outcry to be heard it would and should come from the sponsors, and I’m sure MSNBC would react accordingly. So, if they continue to eulogize him today that continues to be their business.

  • catherine

    I am terribly sorry for the Russert family but I also know this journalist condoned the sexist and aggressive interrogations of Hillary during the primary debates and let the tough questions slide for Obama. He also laughed at many sexist remarks made about her from other journalists and pundits. He is as good a man as any- but not without his faults like all of us. The media always glorify one of their own. It is to be expected. So lets all mourn for Mr. Russert and all those others who died yesterday from serving in IRAQ and all other terrible diseases, accidents and causes.

  • grtphoto

    Tim Russert was a disservice. Saying such things isn’t disrespectful, it’s the truth. I guess truth is at a premium these days. He did a lousy job, I couldn’t stand his show, it was all about him, he thought we all were snowed my his “journalism”. Acting as if his death is so important is disgusting. Larry you are right on to point out the Sgt.s death. I made the same comment to my husband yesterday; remarking, “how many other’s have died today…” The truth is the news media is probably salivating over the possibilities of who gets the vaunted position on MTP. The MSM doesn’t deserve my respect when they don’t respect me as a consumemer, not when they are screwing up at their job, which is to tell me the truth. Someone above already mentioned this but this is another example of the MSM just talking about themselves. It is so obvious and narcissistic and it is embarassing.

  • Shainzona

    Actually he does have his hand over his heart…as he turns at the end, you can see it up on his chest just before he puts it down.

    I guess an issue here is….is there video elsewhere showing him not doing either thing?

  • karen for Clinton

    A president is one thing. Nixon and Reagan’s death was the same never ending tribute – for days on end – and it was understandable even to those of us who campagined against them.

    Or other leaders such as Ghandi.

    Don’t see the pagentry for Tim.

    Tim was no Walter Cronkite.

  • grtphoto

    typo whoops

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    God bless him. There’s something wrong with him, but he’s heartfelt.

  • typical irishman

    Obama will have that opportunity in November :) and most of usor we Americans are looking forward to it.

  • Perry Logan

    I wanted to see Russert prosecuted for inciting the nation to violence–along with most of the major CEO’s and reporters in the American media.

  • McBush

    It i s their own time you overbearing dipshit. They are who they are, turn the channel if you don’t like it. Of course when the bias favored your saviour (and it did) I’m betting you had no problem with it.

  • Tricia

    Hey remember a couple days ago the Media said the CLintons had a list and media was on it. I wonder how long it will take to they blame her for his death.

    I am very sorry for Tim’s Family and Friends

  • Vet4Hill

    So, …what you’re saying is – “resistance is futile

  • Deep Truths

    Whoa, Larry J. you have balls of brass but you are exactly right.

    He’s no head of state. All that crap about being a ‘fair’ journalist. How can these dummies say that with a straight face. And, pray tell, who exactly are they trying to convince – themselves I suspect.

    The Minister of Propaganda, bit the dust. Stunning yes, worth 24/7 MSNBC coverage? Uh…no.

  • Shainzona

    Well said, Elizabeth. I concur completely!

  • typical irishman

    Russert was a loyal comany man for NBC and as such he deserves the recognition that comes with being the ultimate asshole.

  • Shainzona

    Gee, will they cover his funeral from start to finish and interrupt the planned Tee Vee schedule with breaking news every five minutes?

    Will he lay in state at the Capitol Rotunda?

  • Nicole

    Why bother to watch TV? I don’t: the talking heads are a bunch of boring, self-absorbed mental midgets who mimic each other when they’re not patting themselves on the back.

    I get my news and opinion elsewhere; you’ll be happier and better informed if you do, too.

  • trixta

    Ha! Ha! So true! I wonder what Obama will do now that he won’t be able to sponge off of HRC’s brilliance or imitate her political savvy in the upcoming debates with McCain?

    How often will BO say, “Uh, he’s [McCain] essentially correct . . . “?, since this is how he always weaseled out of debate questions that were way over his head!

  • beebop

    Except for my statement, I didn’t see one other person here say anything negative. Do you want to go back and find some of those, sparky? Copy them with the real information and let’s see if they are people who actually post here as supporters of the site with regularity or are one of yours posing?

    I don’t take back what I said. Tim and Cafferty and others rushed to this war and were bringing us war “live” as people’s homes and places of business were being rendered into dust by shock and awe. So. Put up or shut up. Actually, put up AND shut up.

  • trixta

    BUSH REDUX!

  • beebop

    The “Godliness” thing sounds lifted right from Ann Coulter, don’t you think? Who’s calling who a Republican?

  • trixta

    Who cares!

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Yes, and please obamatrons, what did you honestly expect Hillary and camp to do after the news of Tim R’s death was made public…go on a rant about him? That would have really won her a lot of kudo’s now wouldn’t it?

  • Tricia

    The media said this was the best idea to put his lies on one page? are they crazy! Someone looking at that must say to themself some of this must be true.

    But the guy sitting in Levittown PA drinking a beer watching the Phillies still thinks he is a Muslim

  • beebop

    You know something? I don’t 1) have to agree with all of Hillary and Bill’s positions. We’re not a cult. We are thinking members of soceity. 2) you can cut and paste that Mother Teresa extends her sympathies and that doesn’t change my mind. He had a rare opporunity to speak truth to power and didn’t.

    Now. I hope that you are happy. And. What in God’s name does Tim Russert’s passing have to do with either Hillary or Obama? geesus. If there is any DISAGREEMENT with your narrow little opinions, you just get your panties in a wad. You might want to stop wearing it. It’s going to be a long freaking time until November 5th when Barry and Michey go back home to Chicago to pick up the remainders of their silly lives and move on. And we’re not talking Pennsylvania Avenue, either.

  • Vet4Hill

    My saviour??? You’re mistaken, I was never an Obama worshiper. Oh, and regarding the “dipshit” comeback, I’m guessing you’re umm, say 12.

  • rjj

    Tim was no Walter Cronkite.

    Neither was Walter Cronkite.

  • trixta

    My “who cares!” exclamation was directed at OUTSIDER who once again posted the link to BO’s “anti-smear” website.

    About “cojones”–the other day I heard some comedian say that if Hillary would give Barack one of her cojones, Barack would finally have one!

  • typical irishman

    What National Network do you think will announce the coming of the anti Christ? Whatever, it will most likely be a rerun–:)

  • beebop

    And the Shriver nephew who murdered a neighbor with a golf club … shiver … not all families are perfect. Or was it the nephew who was acquited of rape? I just got confused! ;)

  • Nicole

    Actually, troll, you are definitely a sanctimonious twit.

  • AF catfish

    You notice how FTS is a smear on all Muslims? “Obama is not a Muslim and never had been a Muslim.” OK Obambi should we accuse you of being a Jew next?

  • typical irishman

    I don’t remember either , those people did so many goofy things. Like the one the cops found in a tree one night–buck ass naked.

  • beebop

    He’s lucky he’s not Gerry Ford and can at least WALK on his feet. We sure know he’s not that good at dancing on them. When Ellen D looked better than him …. I’m just sayin’

  • uhh somehow this notion that I am qualified to be president is uhh uhh ridiculous

    Shainzona,

    You are right. I watched the clip again. Thanks.

    There is video of him elsewhere not putting his hand over his heart as everyone else was while the National Anthem was observed.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fwog6E08CFU&feature=related

  • beebop

    You have proved that you can cut and paste HRC’s comments … to what purpose? Can you find Oblowme’s?

  • rjj

    Condolences to the Ministry of Truth on the loss of one of its own.

  • typical irishman

    He can lay in the dusty streets of Bagdhad for all I care. I wouldn’t have even known he had died except for the internet. I don’t listen to nor watch the TV news anymore they are so damned biased. Russert was one of the most biased. Good riddance.

  • McBush

    Beebop, what a retard… don’t even read your own site much do you. What in God’s name does Tim Russert’s passing have to do with either Hillary or Obama? That’s my WHOLE ENTIRE EVERLOVING POINT!!! But somehow your own folks HERE, seem to always connect the two. Ie, his death is karma for not supporting Hill. Of course there were numerous others ridiculous postings, sadly none were challenged. However, in assessing some other post today maybe yesterday was just an abomination attributable to an ignorant few.

  • trixta

    What I also found most disturbing was the revelation that Russert was also NBC’s Washington Bureau Chief–which puts the media’s propaganda on the work up to the war into perspective! This speaks volumes on how the media was so very complicit in pushing the war. Russert, as chief, oversaw many journalist underlings and held a very tight leash on their reporting, according to yesterday’s rumblings on the news of his death.

    And Russert is the guy who put the imprimatur on Obama’s presumptive nominee status!

  • beebop

    Oh. I get it now. Hey Ann. This is really a GREAT idea. We all know how little use you had for Russ so coming here and defending him is a really good one. Phew. For a moment, I didn’t recognize you. It was the “godliness” thing that tipped me off. You with us for the day, or just a couple of minutes? Okay. Thanks. But I have to tell you … personally? Black cocktail dresses at, say 10:00 AM kind of makes it look like you didn’t sleep at home last night. Kind of works against the republicans don’t sleep around with members of the opposite sex thing. Hey. Take care … and thanks for recognizing that Hillary was working her ass off.

  • beebop

    wow … great observation!

  • trixta

    “Rules” — Obama certainly has a history for relying on the “rules,” especially when he can game the system to favor him.

  • beebop

    um. no offense. I think the word is emissary

  • POdVet

    It is not a cultist dementia to realize Obama is a criminal who doesn’t belong serving as a dog catcher let alone President of the United States. The cultists are at Obama website trying to pass off a blatantly fraudulent certification of birth as his birth certificate.

    Now onto Russert, while I didn’t care for his actions during the Primary season, he did write 2 excellent books.

    Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
    P.U.M.A.

  • LisaB

    I think the state of DC journalism is poor. “Journalists” are really friends or buddies with politicians, K-st or other established power bases in DC. They chat each other up, go to parties, and act like it is investigative journalism. Then they turn around and try to pass that off to the rest of us as analysis. That’s what I call Cokie Roberts journalism.

    They are really the understood gossips of politicians or conduits to the masses – people neither understands. They actually understand each other but not the rest of us. “Journalists” overstate their value to the rest of us, so they see things that affect them as something that affects us too. Not the case.

    I don’t think journalists would confuse their role or their relative importance if they weren’t so cozy with those in power. I think they feel “part of it all” rather than “outside of it all” . They should be on the outside, looking in, to be of service to us. Instead, they are on the inside, thinking we just don’t understand how unique or how special they are.

  • McBush

    Just look at entry 1 for this story. Man, beebop if your astuteness is any indication.. I’ll stop there. lol

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    me, anne?

    *way perlexed*

    This format doesn’t always make it clear who is talking to whom.

    Are you talking to AnninCA?

  • OBSP

    This is scary, first Ted Kennedy, next Iowa Floods now Tim. If I were Chris Matthews I would not go out in a storm. She’s getting them one at a time.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Gads, we’re so used to Bush, though. Obama’s inarticulative powers are actualy transitional.

    Hillary is so clear. It’s like entering into the bright sun.

  • trixta

    Here, Here!

  • beebop

    Yesterday — as the news hit — nearly to a person the participants here were reflective and respectful. I bet they are signing the memory book over there at HuffandPuff and DailyKomrad?

  • McBush

    Incorrect, and if dipshit makes me 12 I guess pisspot makes you 10. Your SAVIOUR, is the almighty Hill!!! In Hill you trust, Hill bless America, etc. etc. etc.

  • beebop

    No my dear girl — I think that McBush is Ann Coulter … don’t you?

  • typical irishman

    Sgt. John D Aragon was paid to protect the likes of Russert, Olberman, and Obama, so they could insult and humiliate a woman presidential candidate by the name of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Is Tim Russert worth more attention than Aragon? Tim Russert never so much as mentioned Aragon’s name, simply because Russert was always wrapped up in his own self importance and opinions that did not include the Americans who have died and are still dieing so people like Russert can be free to voice their opinions without ever mentioning the names of those who make that possible. Russert is worthy of passive mention by others outside of family members-no less but certainly no more than Aragon who has up to this date insured people like Russert the right to voice their cynical opinions. As a veteran I can only say. screw Russert.

  • Vet4Hill

    I miss the time when they just preached about being a good neighbor and praising God….

  • typical irishman

    Sgt. John D Aragon was paid to protect the likes of Russert, Olberman, and Obama, so they could insult and humiliate a woman presidential candidate by the name of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Is Tim Russert worth more attention than Aragon? Tim Russert never so much as mentioned Aragon’s name, simply because Russert was always wrapped up in his own self importance and opinions that did not include the Americans who have died and are still dieing so people like Russert can be free to voice their opinions without ever mentioning the names of those who make that possible. Russert is worthy of passive mention by others outside of family members-no less but certainly no more than Aragon who has up to this date insured people like Russert the right to voice their cynical opinions. As a veteran I can only say, screw Russert.

  • McBush

    Good one. Insightful, hard hitting.

  • mimi

    Yes, Nicole, that’s what I discovered during this Primary Election, I no longer need these fake journalists, electronic or print, and I used to be a ‘news junkie.’ Their Corporate Bosses heavy-handed manipulation of first the Iraq War and then this Primary Election cured me.

    And I’ve read comments from people doing the same. Had Russerts death happened before the Iraq War, I’d have watched the wall-to-wall tv wake. No more.

    Thye lost a viewer and they won’t get me back. And Russert played a big part in that.

  • Jess Wonderin

    I call bullshit . . . actually it has nothing to do with “karma” as much as the saddness one has when the neighor’s habitually barking dog gets run over . . . sad, but there are greater issues in life and he did keep me awake at night . . .

  • Hope Floats

    Snopes says the Pledge rumor is true.

  • MaryPat

    Yep. Lots of navel-gazing going on. They’re all gushing about Russert as an “icon of journalism.”

    Thanks to 24/7 cable news, hyperbole is now SOP.

  • chavezravine

    Thank heavens somebody has the guts to speak the truth. Russert was a fat arrogant blowhard. Mr. Patriarchy, so entitled to his rich white male dominated world that he felt no problem excluding women from his show, even when the subject was reproductive rights.

    I noticed this morning, while the grief-a-thon for The Master was still going on, they managed to get as many clips of Timmeh singing the praises of Barack Obama featured as possible.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    In LA, they used to invest in journalists. And then they wrote this hideously long stories that only the best of readers could follow.

    Now, they fired them all, or most of them.

    As an LA citizen, I can’t say that I blame the new direction.

    When all stories mimic what it’s been like to try to follow the Rezko story from Chicago?

    Excuse me.

    The authors have forgotten that there is a real audience.

    I have read the Chicago story. My eyes rolled back in my head. I needed a nap.

    It’s like reading the worst of this year’s biographical selection.

    I think, we’re about to return to a bit more centrist reporting.

    I think, the drop-off of 17 million in network news caught their attention.

    I think, they need to get back to reporting the facts.

    The next new organization, blog or otherwise, which offers unbiased, factual news?

    Buy stock. Fast.

  • McBush

    Weak attempt at wit. lol

  • Deep Truths

    Karma for keeping the truth from the people who would have voted for Hillary had they known more of Obama-domestic terrorist lover-influence peddler extraordinare.

    I read a comment that says that perhaps Tim R. was under so much stress with upcoming scandals, and/or realization of him being the gateway to Bush administration.

    All I remember is how giddy he was when BO supposedly became the nominee. It was sickening his disdain for Hillary.

  • Vet4Hill

    Ok, McBush, have the last word :-) ))

  • Hope Floats

    “Don’t you talk bad about NBC… you jerks!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbIvPhZ3IsQ

    (Shout out to Uncle Larry.)

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Oh, that was the favorite label for me at Huffpo.

    They called me Anne Coulter constantly.

    I am embarassed to share that it took me WEEKS to figure that out. I was so perplexed by that label.

    I had no idea, though, about Obamabots then.

    They are nasty, nasty people in life.

    They are the drivers who think you’ve cut them off on the freeway because, you too, need to get to that exit. They’ll flip you off or shout nasty remarks.

    They are the intolerant ones in retail stores. They watch like hawks for “whose next.” God help the minimum wage clerk who doesn’t remember the order. They will dress her down like Bush.

    They are just plain, ole’, trash-potty mouthed folks.

    I thank God I have none of them in my personal life.

    I think they are abusive and need to be avoided.

    I stand behind them in lines, of course. But I always think, “I’m so glad…thank you, thank you….that I am not this ugly or mean or angry.”

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com SUGAR

    This really puts things into perspective Larry. I don’t celebrate anyone’s death, but this lapping at the dish of Russert is too much at this point. The MSM has gone down the tubes and unfortunately, he has had a hand in its demise. I was talking to a friend of mine the other day about how I really don’t think we’d be witnessing the garbage rate reporting and anchoring we’ve been seeing in recent years had some of the “old-timers” like Brokaw, Rather and Jennings still been in the seat. I think I read here the other day that Brokaw had to admonish Olberman the other day on the air! How disgusting! I hope that Russert is resting in peace, but he is not leaving behind the untarnished legacy they would have the sheeple believe.

  • Hope Floats

    All these media whores and Obama freaks should wear ashes on their forehead tomorrow and hold a candlelight vigil.

  • mimi

    This guy can’t put two words together impromptu. The mark of a slow thinker.

    Oooh embarassing!

  • Hope Floats

    The Kennedy dynasty founded on bootlegging and maintained by alcoholics.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Yuck…..anytime some passes away, going on a rant is just not cool.

    Tim passed away early in life. That is not great.

    But your post?

    Way out there.

    Check your thinking out!

  • Cindy

    Uppity..
    Is this you? I read on another blog (maybe Confluence) that your name had been hijacked.
    And I’ve noticed I never see workingclassartist anymore.
    Anyway, just wondering.
    And I agree with your comments, as always.

  • Hope Floats

    Quit whining.

  • Hope Floats

    It’s like living your life all over aagain and not making the same mistakes twice… then you make the same mistake three times. This country cannot survive an Obama presidency.

  • Tampa Bay Dave

    I understand your sentiment, but I saw in Russert a man grieving, one who felt guilty.

    He was hardly the worst, and yes he was in part responsible for selling this travesty of a war, in Iraq, but so were the rest, Judith Miller comes to mind, immediately. (Though Russert didn’t lie for Rove, and Scooter, in the matter of Plame, did he? Miller did, at least by omission).

    I harbor no sense of anger toward him, saving my venom for the big tuna. He was ethically compromised, he did not do his job.

    I don’t even bother with the MSM anymore, they are impotent.

  • mimi

    Well, he didn’t go out of his way to be nice to Hillary. Russert, Brian Williams, the whole msnbc gang were down right mean to her and offensive.

    Over these last months his obvious venal hatred for Hillary Clinton was so apparent I though his head would explode. Clearly, this did not do his health any good. The end result couldn’t be any clearer. All of these people went too far given their roles as journalists. And their reputations and legacies are suffering for it.

    These people better stop hiding their heads in the sand. America has lost a lot of credibility under Bush and it doesn’t look like it’s going to get any better. And the msm is not helping. In fact they are making it worse!

  • Tampa Bay Dave

    And they’re all too blame, but they would tell you it’s not their responsibility anymore.

    They’re really not bright, and they really don’t belong, and hopefully, they will all go away, very soon.

  • Tampa Bay Dave

    to blame, sorry.

  • Tampa Bay Dave

    AS if they’re impervious from a bullet.

    Or a heart attack.

    Those people are loony.

  • Tampa Bay Dave

    Good to know you’re not afraid of death.

    LOL

  • Hope Floats

    Which was the news network that loved Obama best? The same one that sold the Iraq war. Wake up people.

  • Uppity Woman

    I have to agree, he wasn’t the worst of the pig lot.

  • skmf12

    dear larry,

    that was such a beautiful post. thank you for
    mentioning the name, and acknowledging the life,
    of one of america’s children, who will be
    heartbreakingly missed i am sure by many.

    our love to sgt aragons loved ones.

  • Tampa Bay Dave

    And if it can be shown it was BS, which it is, and given the facts surrounding the war, ie, even McClellan said Cheney fabricated the reasoning, (if he IS capable of reasoning), Cheney, the whole crew, can go to jail, really, top to bottom.

    It could happen, their worst nightmare.

  • Hope Floats

    That is 18 million evil eyes. No one really wished them dead, but… I believe in that stuff.

  • Uppity Woman

    Yes and Hillary didn’t call a press conference and whine and threaten people. She just put the site up. I do swear the world revolves around Barack ME ME ME Obama.

  • Uppity Woman

    No but they WILL see that video. Count on it.

  • Kevin

    I personally refer to Ted as the Senior Senator from Dewars.

    Cancer happens.

    Won’t make me not like him.

    Same thing killed my grandfather, terrible way to go.

    But…

    His acting as kingmaker when his constituents, including me, voted otherwise is one of many dozens of reasons why I have no respect for the man.

  • Hope Floats

    I would even accept embarrassary.

  • Uppity Woman

    Well if we would only worship The One, we would have a god.

  • Uppity Woman

    Trotsky, Larry says No, because now you come here less.

  • fooj

    He didn’t just “lose his edge”… there seems to be much more to it than that.

    I watched MSNBC this morning and couldn’t believe my ears. These paid shills are so wrapped up in their grief that they are making some HUGE discretionary mistakes while sharing personal moments/memories regarding Russert. I’ve transcribed said comments and I plan on posting this everywhere that I can. It’s like they are all sitting at a pub marveling at how their “boss” efficiently and effectively got the job done. I have it all on TIVO.

    Here are the players:

    Jeff Zucker, President/CEO NBC Universal
    Andrea Mitchell, NBC Universal foriegn correspondent, reporter
    Chuck Todd, NBC News Political Director
    Sheldon Gawiser, NBC News, Director of Elections

    Transcribed from the 9-10 a.m. broadcast (PST)

    Jeff Zucker “I remember election night 2000 so well. I was producing that night. I remember talking to Tim before the night began about how we were going to be able to explain it. We came up with this crazy idea- just a little message board and Tim writing FLORIDA, FLORIDA, FLORIDA on it. And probably nothing in his entire career- nothing defines Tim as much as that board which now sits in the Smithsonian.”

    Now here’s a segment of the 10-11a.m.(PST) hosted by Mitchell.

    Andrea M.: Shelly, when Tim talked about this campaign year, the best election any of us have experienced… (Chuck Todd interrupts)

    Chuck Todd: You haven’t finished delivering yet though, Shelly. You know what you have to do.

    Sheldon (Shelly) G. : Yeah.

    C. Todd: You know what’s coming next.

    Sheldon (Shelly): Yeah…
    ****************************

    After a few more pontifications, Sheldon says this:
    “As I said earlier, he (Tim) came to me before the election 2000 and said “Get me an election where one candidate wins the popular vote and one candidate wins the electoral vote.” And, of course, that’s EXACTLY what happened.”
    *****************************

    WTF? Do these Yoo-hoos even realize WHAT THEY JUST CONFIRMED? Seriously, this is appalling.

    Hey Republicans…good luck. This time it’s happening to YOU. The eleites from BOTH political parties seem to be running their FIXED AND FRAUDULENT ELECTIONS through NBC. Unfuckingbelievable.

    Larry, imo, this is why they are desperately trying to “cannonize” Russert as the saint of truth.

  • Hope Floats

    Heh. Nice snark.

  • Uppity Woman

    Jews do. And boy do they ever vote.

  • Kevin

    ah, humor, it is a difficult concept

    actually that is really freaking funny.

    People die every day, it is part of this thing called being an organism.

    Haven’t watched TV news in over 5 years, it is a woefully inefficient means of conveying information. It does, however, provide an excellent means of selling crap, which, if I’m not mistaken, is its purpose.

  • Hope Floats

    Sounds about right to me. Too much steak for Tim Russert. Oh, well.

  • Uppity Woman

    Bow to The Changeling!

  • Hope Floats

    That was a beautiful eulogy.

  • jbjd

    The benefit of this prolonged on-air maudlin lament by the MSM on the sudden death of their colleague is that it points to the tragedy that they failed to utilize similar resources to vet Senator Obama, a candidate for the Office of President of the United States.

  • Vet4Hill

    … but you Laughed Out Loud. Tweet indeed.

  • Uppity Woman

    Yes Cindy it’s me. They flagged the hijacker. Most of those blogs know me better than that. I’ve been hijacked all over the place and have been literally threatened with more. I just wish they were more literate!

  • Uppity Woman

    BOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Iphie

    Thanks for the sorely needed perspective and sense of priority.

  • Kevin

    This just in from MSNBC-

    Chris Matthew’s is changing the name of his show to Hardon

    Olberman’s has been changed to Compromised with Keith Olbermann

    figured I would try to invoke some humor here

    I’m actually as fearful as I can be.

    Middle class educated whitey.

    I’ll go out like the heroes in the warsaw ghetto.

  • ken

    It’s the media’s perverse desire to turn someone’s sudden death into a pity party for days. Let his family and friends grief in private. If he co-workers can’t deal with it, take some time off. Don’t make it into a public wake.

  • http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Mzc3ZWNhNThmM2JhMzliZDUxMWNmMmU5M2ZiNmM1YTY= Shane

    Stay classy, guys. Whose death should we pray for now?

  • Cindy

    LOL….. and “welcome back”!

  • McBush

    Lie Lie and more lies. I read the comments here yesterday. Clintonian mindset in Beebop. Lie your way out of shame.

  • beebop

    So, I guess it was perfectly okey dokey to threaten Charlie Gibson and George S with death after the last debate held on ABC?

    You obamasnots have no claim on the moral high ground. None.

  • McBush

    Even more embarassing is having your candidate lose to a guy that “Can’t think on his feet”, shows “The mark of a slow thinker”, and “can’t put two words together impromtu”. Wow… what does that say for YOUR candidate. lol

  • mimi

    Uppity,

    I went to the Library to pick up some reserved books and while I was there I read the Paper since I don’t buy them any more. They reported that he was being treated for corornary heart disease with medication and exercise, no mention of diet. (He was probably stubborn about that.) An autopsy showed that he also had an enlarged heart, but he had scored well on a recent stress test.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the long flight precipitated the attack. But I’m also convinced that the animosity coming from him and the gang at msnbc/nbc in particular played a key role as well. Remember, how gleeful they all were after Iowa? and then Hillary came back and back and back and they became downright mean and dour and hateful. You can’t carry that kind of anger around and it not dmaage your vital organs.

    If I were the Obama trolls I ‘d watch it. There have been some meltdowns on this blog that are downright scary.

    All the while we Hillary supporters, like Hillary, let all the vile ugliness roll off our backs. We understand that in Nov, we will be triumphant and all the anger, hatred, misogyny, racism, threats of violence, can’t change the power we have in our one vote.

    WIN WITHOUT ME!!!

    Who knows? Maybe Russert saw the ‘whitey’ tape.

    (Sorry, I couldn’t resist) ;)

  • fooj

    Just in case this post was missed upthread…

    I watched MSNBC this morning and couldn’t believe my ears. These paid shills are so wrapped up in their grief that they are making some HUGE discretionary mistakes while sharing personal moments/memories regarding Russert. I’ve transcribed said comments and I plan on posting this everywhere that I can. It’s like they are all sitting at a pub marveling at how their “boss” efficiently and effectively got the job done. I have it all on TIVO.

    Here are the players:

    Jeff Zucker, President/CEO NBC Universal
    Andrea Mitchell, NBC Universal foriegn correspondent, reporter
    Chuck Todd, NBC News Political Director
    Sheldon Gawiser, NBC News, Director of Elections

    Transcribed from the 9-10 a.m. broadcast (PST)

    Jeff Zucker: “I remember election night 2000 so well. I was producing that night. I remember talking to Tim before the night began about how we were going to be able to explain it. We came up with this crazy idea- just a little message board and Tim writing FLORIDA, FLORIDA, FLORIDA on it. And probably nothing in his entire career- nothing defines Tim as much as that board which now sits in the Smithsonian.”

    Now here’s a segment of the 10-11a.m.(PST) hosted by Mitchell.

    Andrea M.: Shelly, when Tim talked about this campaign year, the best election any of us have experienced… (Chuck Todd interrupts)

    Chuck Todd: You haven’t finished delivering yet though, Shelly. You know what you have to do.

    Sheldon (Shelly) G. : Yeah.

    C. Todd: You know what’s coming next.

    Sheldon (Shelly): Yeah…
    ****************************

    After a few more pontifications, Sheldon says this:

    “As I said earlier, he (Tim) came to me before the election 2000 and said “Get me an election where one candidate wins the popular vote and one candidate wins the electoral vote.” And, of course, that’s EXACTLY what happened.”
    *****************************

    WTF? Do these Yoo-hoos even realize WHAT THEY JUST CONFIRMED? Seriously, this is appalling.

    Hey Republicans…good luck. This time it’s happening to YOU. The elites from BOTH political parties seem to be running their FIXED AND FRAUDULENT ELECTIONS through NBC. Unfuckingbelievable.

    Larry, imo, this is why they are desperately trying to “cannonize” Russert as the saint of truth.

  • mimi

    I’m sure some of it was the shock. He did have the attack while on the job.

    But some of it is guilt. They know they’ve been biased and hateful shits/shills. They’ve lost viewership, respect, we’ve been sending emails, letters and still they tow the Corporate Line.

    And you can’t tell me that they think Obama is worth it. Each day he is exposing exactly how unready he is for primetime. Maybe they got word that they will be in the tank for Obama for the whole election. They say the press is fond of McCain.

    We’ll never know because the press keeps their dirty little secrets all the while exposing ours. Or the ones they want to.

    And they also might be doing this to lure viewers back through emotion.

  • mimi

    Of coruse no one wished anyone dead.

    However, their bias, hateful sexists attacks engendered a great deal of ill will.

    This is what has me so ticked off with the Democratic Party. The Party is NOT UNIFIED!

    There are a lot of angry voters who are life time Dems and have left the Party. And the media has been ordered to sit on the story.

    You can’t pretend half the country does not exist and stay healthy.

  • mamameow

    i can’t agree more. i was just waiting for someone to be honest about timmy’s passing. he was a media whore, sucking up to the powers instead of being an honest newswman. he was an entertainer, period. my first thought after the shock was “well one down and how many to go?”

  • mamameow

    so right. why do we have to pay homage to this man by listening to the coverage for so many days and hours. he was’nt our friend, he was theirs. this is just the msm putting on a show for the other msm. i no longer watch cnbc, msnbc, cnn. nor do i listen to air america except for lionel. the day they let randi rhodes come back was the day i stopped listening to her. with lionel you do not know his political leanings. that is how it should be!!!!!

  • Uppity Woman

    I’m not worried because Obama will get neither the popular vote nor the electoral college. It’s not going to be a squeaker in the end. He’s McGovern through and through. It’s like a blast from the past, right up to the nutball worshippers and the demonstrators. Only back then there were no swiftboats. His ‘followers’ scared the electorate and they couldn’t WAIT to get to the polls.

  • Uppity Woman

    Actually as I think about it, Russert ran that who show of yahoos. They probably can’t find their asses with both hands without him.

  • Uppity Woman

    Feel free to volunteer if you would like.

  • Peggy Sue

    I think what disturbed the most about the over-the-top eulogy on Russert was a comment repeated several times now:

    When Tim Russert announced after North Carolina and Indiana that the primary was over and BO had taken the nomination, it [the primary] was for all practical purposes . . .over.

    And that’s a good thing?

    I came in around 3:00 p.m. on Friday, and the rest of the day and evening was devoted to Washington types, journalists and talking heads swapping Tim Russert Wake stories for the public, saying how the Nation would be in mourning for several weeks.

    Really?

    Look I’m sorry the man died. He’ll obviously be missed by his family, friends and colleagues. But do we really need an endless Princess Diana treatment? And oh, btw–did anything else happen in the world yesterday? How about the people dead and homeless in the midwest? How many of our guys did we lose overseas yesterday? How many WWII vets bit the dust on Friday [the stats are about 100 a day, which doesn't exactly thrill my father-in-law who was sent to the Phillipines right out of HS].

    What does this all say?

    It’s basically all about them, the so-called press. It’s all about what they say, think and emote. They are the “story.”

    PUMApac.org

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  • Patrick Henry

    Today is FLAG DAY…

    I proudly flew My Flag all day today..outside tha Main Gate to the Base…and yelled HooRah to every Marine who Jogged By today…

    HooRah everyone…HooRah

  • runtymom

    Couldn’t have said it better. I guess next we shall have to watch them all dissect the funeral service-memorial service and then they will tell us what a huge story that should be to all of America. Right. Maybe, just maybe, if they all got their heads out of their own asses and started to report the NEWS and not something they all believe to be newsworthy because they can run it 24/7 on all the channels and pretend its real news…..
    Oh wait, I’m dreaming. That won’t happen unless we go back about 25 years.

  • standard

    Russert was no Brokaw, that’s for sure.
    “Get the Guest” is a vacuous game that
    puts the guest on guard, and the viewer
    doesn’t see much beyond butt saving.

  • Hope Floats

    It’s embarrassing for your party and your candidate that they fixed the primaries to make this “slow thinker” the nominee.

  • Hope Floats

    Then the same can be said of you lurking here. If you do not care for the community at NQ, then take yourself to another site, and you will not be missed. I’m glad the Merchants of Death at NBC have become a bigger joke than FOX News who are now seen as “fair and balanced.”

    Millions of Americans have already changed their channels, and I hope they continue to do so. I hope more people realize this press is not their friend and that they should reject the candidate promoted by the media.

  • Vet4Hill

    A woman (black or white) or a white man with Obama’s credentials would be laughed out of the race.Affirmative action and Political correctness prompted the press to give Obama a free pass, and even attacked his opponent for challenging Obama, while millions of patsies, many now admitting “buyer’s remorse”, voted for the opportunist.

    Result: you have a worthless candidate, the least qualified to be a U.S. President in history.

  • verminme

    I haven’t read any of the comments before my own. I live in Antioch, CA. My morning paper MY LOCAL PAPER unbelieveably had the death of Tim Rusert on the front page and the death of John Aragon on on page 3. This is the problem. People like us do not matter to the media, the Washington elite. I knew this kid, this young man, this hero. Fucfk them all. Rusert’s kid is in Italy having skated on the fake ID thying Oh MSNBC thinks that is sooooo cute! GOD watches. I’m just saying. Thank you for mentioning our boy.

  • tootsky

    For a mutual circle jerk alongside citing Daniel Pipes?

  • TheViking

    F**k Tim Russert. Karma’s a bitch ain’t?

  • http://www.gigglechick.com gigglechick

    I might piss a few people off by saying that I was saddened by the death of Tim Russert.

    But, I am.

    (I also feel that when people are saying “karma’s a bitch” and the like regarding Russert, then, we seem no better than the idiot Obamabots who spew vile crap as well. Those are my thoughts.)

  • http://www.gigglechick.com gigglechick

    I ALSO feel that with him gone, all hell is totally going to break loose on msnbc — even more than what we’ve already witnessed.

    – and to answer the question/title of the post. No, no one is more or less worthy than another human being… but, i’ve liked Russert for the past 20 years or so, and his death was unexpected.

    anyway, not here to stir the pot, but, it is a sad moment.

  • IHeartHillary!!!!!!

    Gigglechick,

    You are entitled to your own opinions (I guess), but we believe Hillary authorized Bush’s invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation all because Tim Russert MADE HER DO IT with his constant war peddling. We are really mad at HIM FOR SELLING THE WAR but NOT HILLARY FOR VOTING FOR IT!!!!!

    Plan A: Clinton
    Plan B: McCain
    Plan C: Move to Canada or Denver.

  • http://www.gigglechick.com gigglechick

    “IHeartHillary” – yes, i am entitled to my own opinion (I’m pretty damned sure about that)

    I wasn’t attempting to bring politics into this.

    A man died.
    A family and friends are mourning.

    I just feel that SOMETIMES it’s not totally necessary for the bile to be sprayed all over the place within the first 48 hours of someone’s death.

  • Silver

    Years ago, I worked at a library and was lucky to have had a boss who was one of the nicest people I’ve ever met. She was kind to everyone regardless of their walk in life, and no matter what their age. She was especially attentive to the elderly who often needed help picking out their books and carrying them to their cars. And she always had time for them when they were lonely and just needed to talk. The library was located downtown, not too far from the homeless shelter and low-income apartments, so it often attracted vagrants and poor people. She treated them with the same amount of respect as she did everyone else—maybe even more. From her, I learned what the real definition of the words honesty and integrity meant.
    After she retired, she became quite reclusive, and died about ten years later. She had requested that there be no funeral, only a burial. When I went to the grave site, I was shocked to see that only a few people had shown up to attend her burial. Before she was lowered into her grave, I remember the minister commented, “You know, when someone dies, the number of people who show up at their burial does not reflect their true greatness or how much they gave to the world. Because this woman was truly a great soul who gave love and warmth to everyone she met.” And I thought, “Amen to that!”

    Sometimes when a person dies, they’ll get big speeches, big crowds, lots of attention—like Tim Russert. It doesn’t mean they were good or bad, it’s just fanfare, and that’s all it is. In the scheme of things, it’s irrelevant and it doesn’t really matter. It’s not about how famous you were or how much money you made. It’s about how much you loved, and how you lived your life, your integrity, and how many lives you touched. That’s what keeps living after you’re gone.

  • standard

    Then please stop giggling.

  • standard

    It’s hard to measure Russert’s worth in news journalism.
    His reputation seems to be in catching interviewees in inaccuracies and/or contradictions.

    Did he have any ideas of his own?

  • verminme

    I shouldn’t have checked back. No one is mentioning John Aragon. WTF is wrong with you people. Focus. We’re talking about two people none of you know, John Aragon and Tim Russert, yet, TR is getting all of the attention. Feel manipulated?

  • http://www.gigglechick.com gigglechick

    gee, standard, that was original.

    you’re a dolt.

  • http://www.gigglechick.com gigglechick

    maybe aragon should’ve gotten his own post rather than be lumped into one with Russert, then.

  • http://www.gigglechick.com gigglechick

    do you?

  • memyself&i

    I do not fault him for not catching that the information from our intelligence agencies and the White House was incorrect. I also do not fault Senator Clinton or Senator McCain for voting to send troops into Iraq based on that information.

    I read the book he wrote about his father. I loke the man who wrote that book. Looking at the totality of his career, he was one of the more decent, even handed members of the press. Did I see bias? Sometimes, but it was rare and usually mild. I did not watch all his shows, but the times I watched, I did not see him show disrespect to anyone. There are times I felt he did favor Senator Obama over Senator Clinton, especially in the debate, but compared to others in the media, it was mild. I am glad he did not use his position as a bully pulpit. That is what you find with Keith Olberman and Chris Matthews.

    I believe Senator Clinton and President Clinton are sincere in their condolence and praise of Tim Russert. When you hang around enough journalists, you learn who are the good ones.

    I do not know Sgt John Aragon. Thank you for introducing this great person to us. People like him humble me. I sit at my computer and type quickly and furiously words about freedom, liberty, America’s future…then I am reminded of the brave young men and women in the military who are risking their lives to protect freedom, liberty, and America’s future. He has my deepest respect and admiration. He has my deepest gratitude for the courage and ultimate sacrifice he gave to protect my liberties and give me peace.

  • Barak Osama

    McBush is a typical first time voting college puke. Go suck Obama’s dick, you fuck.

  • Barak Osama

    OOO! Did you get that from a CNN ad? Fucking puke, not a thought of his own.

  • McBush

    WE WAS ROBBED YO HONOR. Vet you’re just a dumbshit that can’t seem to think for himself. Any crutch will do when you can’t face the truth. Let’s see now he’s the Affirmative Action candidate.. black boy too dumb to get the job otherwise. Right thinking white man or right thinking white woman is infinitely more qualified. Right? But hey your not stealing from Gerry -the boozer – Ferraro, Just too pathetic.

  • McBush

    lol now that’s eloquent… suck dick you fuck.. lol must be that letters to Penthouse background coming out in this retard. I’m sure there’s more where that came from.

  • WildChild

    Why do you spend so much time reading penthouse letters?

  • McBush

    You see Annin that’s just not true, but it makes you feel better to beleive that. To categorize all those people who voted for O as automatically bad people in life speaks more to who YOU are. It’s shallow and self-serving. We’re potty mouthed??? See the poster who describes himself as “Barak Obama”, one of yours, curse words every line. And please don’t flatter yourself, “I’m so glad… that I’m not this ugly or mean or angry” If that’s the case what’s the above post all about… I’ll tell you. An attempt to be UGLY by calling every O supporter nasty, abusive, and intolerant. An attempt to be MEAN by calling every O supporter trash. An by tone of post, you sound extremely ANGRY.

  • McBush

    You can’t carry that kind of anger around and it not dmaage your vital organs.

    If that’s the case half the NQ supporters here would already be dead. Give it a rest.. It’s really hard for me believe your lives meant ANYTHING before Hill ran for President!! Because according to you all anything that happens in this world is related to your saviour. Really pitiful mimi.

  • WildChild

    dude, you’re the one with the Penthouse forum addiction.

  • Barak Osama

    Obama IS affirmative action. No merit, no experience. And fucking college pukes like McBush voting for him.

  • WildChild

    you have to admit,, you BOBOwenies are some of the most high stressed “winners” in history. With how loudly some of you BOBOweenies were screaming for Hillary to leave the race since back in February (and it was really funny watching you froth yourselves up into a tizzy) it has surprised me that more of you haven’t left your brains splattered all over the walls from your almost daily conniptions.

  • WildChild

    grandma sent him to a ritzy prep school when he was ten

  • Vet4Hill

    Take some ritalin and go suck on your thumb. AND OBAMA IS “Affirmative Action”, no matter how many times you call someone “dumbshit”

  • Schiete Zick

    You realize that Obama is bad karma. Everybody who has anything to do with him either ends up with a tumor or dies unexpectedly. I am not voting for this guy for nothing. I want to live.

  • Barak Osama

    Because he’s a college puke who can’t get a date… So he gets his kicks hanging out on this site. Fucking troll.

  • NITEOWL

    The MSM first priority is themselves and their own view of each other. Most of them have O.O.T. syndrome.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    Heading toward 48 hours, MSNBC is still doing All Tim Russert All The Time.

  • Ai1een

    I mourn Russert only in that he represented, for a time in my mind, what I “hoped” him to be – a true journalist through and through which is so very much needed in a country bent on protecting freedom of speech…but he was not. Russert proved profoundly during this election season how distorted and opinionated he truly was (which one should never see from a true journalist) and how very capable he was of pulling his own version of distorted power to give off the “image” he wanted to present. Sadly, I cannot say I mourn him today as I would probably have done a few years ago…I burned all of his books almost a year ago in protest to the censorship I saw him go along with week after week – it was disgusting. That is the traitor I felt him to be…not a traitor to “my” cause or the specific cause I believed in, but traitor to a true journalist’s cause…the cause to always speak and present “truth” and he chose not to – he chose to censor and also chose the more popular, lazy route as “commentator” where truth has no bearing on their words…just look at Matthews and Olberman – disgusting hacks that not only will no one mourn – but people will probably dance on their graves. Russert’s bias was my first realization that our trusted U.S. Media is GONE – IT’S OVER – OUR MEDIA IS A JOKE TO THE WORLD AND RIGHTLY SO – Russert could have stood up for it, fought for it – but our country wasn’t worth it to him – the money and book deals were easier.

  • http://dianej.wordpress.com DianeJ

    Well, looks like I disagree with many here. Tim Russert will be missed by his family, friends and fans. I enjoyed hearing stories about Tim and Big Russ. Perhaps for many in the world of politics they did not always agree with him and how he interviewed certain people but all in all he was a good guy. I heard someone say on TV that Tim thought he was used by Cheney and My own family did not like how he treated Hillary Clinton.

    War is a horrible, horrible thing and I truly don’t believe anyone “likes” war. Death is equally horrible.

    I am glad Russ was able to spend time with his family in Rome. I am glad he was able to see his son, Luke, graduate from college and I am glad he was able to spend time visiting in the Vatican. Russ came from a working class family. His father worked hard – holding down two jobs at one time. Russ lived the American Dream in my book. So cheers to Russ and hugs to his family.

  • http://dianej.wordpress.com DianeJ

    P.S. I don’t believe Tim Russert or the media should be held accountable for deaths that occur in Iraq. That does not make sense to me, sorry Lj but I must respectfully disagree with you on this one.

  • http://www.gigglechick.com gigglechick

    it’s not about Tim anymore. it’s olympic trials.

  • http://www.gigglechick.com gigglechick

    exactly. I feel that Hillary was able to make her own mind up (and truthfully, I wanted to go to war back then as well. Not because of the media. But because I was pissed off.)

    and I’m glad that he got to see Luke graduate. He’d just had to put Big Russ into an assisted living home a few weeks ago, which, to some might be cold, but, I take comfort in the fact that he had taken care of things that would be affected in the future.

    58 years old is way too young… FOR ANYONE to die.

  • Terry Andreasen, CW3, TC, USAR (ret.)

    SGT John D. Aragon, of Antioch CA was buried today in a Funeral with full Military honors, befitting a hero. There were several members of the media (from various agencies) present from start to finish. I am not sure how much will actually make the final cut. Members of The Patriot Sentinel Riders, American Legion Riders and Patriot Guard Riders were present, riding as an honor guard for the family. Interested bystanders lined the streets from the church to the cemetary, most waving the american flag. Zero anti-military protesters were in evidence. California Highway Patrol and City of Antioch Police blocked intersections and escorted the assembled mourners to the cemetary. The families last act of saying good bye to John was a release of doves. It was, to say the least a beautiful ceremony.

  • Leslie

    Thank you for bringing to light the disparity between fame and service. Sgt John Aragon’s service was celebrated yesterday with family, friends and proud Americans. Praying for peace.

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