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Fat Is the New Black! : NO QUARTER — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:01:11 +0000

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By: brendy

brendy — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:57:30 +0000

Obama himself is a smoker, but of course – HE doesn’t have to follow the same healthcare plan we peons would have to follow if this ‘piece of sh#t’ ObamaCare passes…

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By: Pat Racimora

Pat Racimora — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:18:57 +0000

Not really fair to judge us all in that way, JozefAL. I don’t think No Quarter readers for the most part would disagree with a lot of what you are saying.

The the truth is that we don’t yet know for sure what inthe hell the health care bills that actually go up for a vote will be like. But it feels like the people are not going to be the winners in all of this.

By: sarainitaly

sarainitaly — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:56:35 +0000

But if you cut out cheese and ice cream isn’t that basically putting an end to eating? haha

In the list of things that harm the environment, that need fixed, I would put meat, dairy, poultry way at the bottom of that list.

Rid the world of junk food and eliminate all the production pollutions and transportation costs, and trash associated with junk food. I would reduce pollutants from all kinds of industry. Cars, oil, wasting water, smoking, etc. etc. Everyone drives, and every time they do, they are sending harmful pollutants out. Every time someone throws out a plastic bag, or disposable diaper, or an appliance, instead of getting it repaired. Every time someone litters. Every time someone buys a foreign made automobile it hurts our own economy/auto industry.

I would fix all those problems before I set my sites on meat, dairy and poultry. Besides, would we even have the capability to produce enough veggies to sustain the country if we eliminated meat, dairy and eggs? And that doesn’t sound very healthy for children growing up eating only beans for protein. Plus, with all that beam eating, wouldn’t we be causing a whole new set of problems with all those gases… haha

And no, I haven’t seen the waste pools at pig farms. ewe!

By: JozefAL

JozefAL — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:46:39 +0000

Considering how easy you people have swallowed the rhetoric produced by the very people who don’t want to do anything to reform the health industry, there’s no sense in arguing with any of you.
Take a look at any of the GOP proposals that have been offered during this health care debate. Oh, wait. There haven’t been any, have there? Nope. Not a one. All the GOP has done has been to sow the very same fears that they and their health industry supporters did 15 years ago when a certain First Lady of the US made the first serious effort to reform the parasites that make up the American health care industry. When a Democratic Congressman introduced a bill that would end a part of “socialized medicine” (commonly known as “Medicare”), not a single one of the GOPers who rail and rant against “socialized medicine” went for it. They ALL know that would cost them their seats in Washington. And yet, while they continue to support Medicare, while they continue to support the medical health care program that THE GOVERNMENT provides its military veterans, they keep terrorizing American citizens that “socialized medicine” is a horror that we simply cannot have. I call bullshit, and every single one of you who bought into these GOP hypocrites outrageous claims should be ashamed of yourselves.
I’ve got health insurance through my job, but if I were to lose that job, I couldn’t afford to pay the premiums that most insurers want to charge. And with those fucking GOPers and the sniveling cowardly Dems who’ve lined up with those GOPers insisting that there’s no problem that requires the government offer a national health insurance program, we’re certainly not going to have any real reform.
Hell, look how the fucking credit card industry has been “reformed.” They got a full year to make the necessary changes that will continue to screw over their customers (even the ones who’ve been very judicious in their credit card use) after next year’s deadline. How did the credit/banking industry get so lucky? Because of their lobbyists who managed to convince Congress that the credit industry’s need to make a profit was more important (to Congresscritters’ continued well-being) than the welfare of Congressional constituents. And what industry is doing its best to convince Congress that industry’s profits are more important (to Congresscritters’ continued well-being) than the well-being of Congressional constituents? The health care INDUSTRY.
But, most of you have become so frightened of the prospect of “socialized medicine” because of the same group of neocon assholes who helped waste TRILLIONS of dollars (that could have actually helped fund the “public option” for years) on a stupid, pointless war in Iraq. Just remember Grover Norquist and his batch of lunatics don’t have your best interests at heart; they’re only interested in THEIR own best interests. And if they can make a single buck out of selling you out, they’ll do it in a heartbeat. And take a good hard look at the “leaders” of the current attacks on the Democrats’ health care proposals. You won’t like what you see (unless, of course, you’re one of those heartless bastards that claim to be “for the people” when they’ve done jack-squat to help “the people”).

By: lorac

lorac — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:41:01 +0000

I think some specifics about our culture are skewing the results. We seem to have the best technology here, we’re always developing new and improved drugs, and if people have insurance, they usually go in for their yearly checkups, breast exams, prostate checks, etc. So there are people here who are able to take preventative care, get regular checkups which help to spot a problem before it gets worse, and then get the best treatment.

But we also have a large number who don’t have insurance, and so they tend to skip regular checkups and just go to the ER when something has gotten pretty bad already, at which point medicine may be less able to help them. So this group is going to have worse health and morbidity statistics, and I think it pulls down our “scores”.
And there are a lot of seniors who have to choose between food and medicine because of their fixed income, and not all medicines are on the $4 Walmart list.

What really speaks loudly to me is how poorly we fare on the number of children who are alive one year after being born. There are SO many countries whose scores are better than ours. I’m guessing this population of children is part of the “no-insurance” group, not getting pre-natal or well-baby care, maybe. It’s kind of a sign of progress, of being an advanced civilization, to be able to have most people born stay alive. But our statistics on this front are shocking.

By: lorac

lorac — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:27:05 +0000

California doesn’t allow public smoking anymore, not for awhile. I’m always shocked when I see someone post that people are smoking in an office or a restaurant, and then I remember it’s a state law, not federal. And they don’t allow people to smoke in cars if kids are in them – that law is a year or two old I think. But people can still smoke in their own home. And maybe if they drove out to the middle of the desert lol

By: Ellen D

Ellen D — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:24:57 +0000

Self-employed. Good for you. Me too.

With Medicare you have to have supplemental. It doesn’t pay for all of part B and that’s the reality of it in the U.S.
You really don’t want to try to get full personal health insurance on your own after 65. Even if you could, the rates will kill you.

Good point about a system that is based on employers. A friend today that is Japanese told me how crazy she thought that was when she moved to the U.S.

By: lorac

lorac — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:21:09 +0000

I guess our best hope will be to start making friends with doctors, so if we really need something, maybe she or he will do a little pro bono work for us….

By: Cathy in Ks.

Cathy in Ks. — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:21:07 +0000

Although obesity and smoking are supposed to shorten one’s life span, my very obese paternal grandmother who died many years ago lived into her early eighties. My paternal grandmother lived in her own home until the last few of weeks of her life when she was hospitalized. Her obesity during most of her adult years of her life was a source of great concern for many of her relatives. But with the exceptions of her husband (my paternal grandfather who lived to be almost 100 years and who was a cigar smoker but not obese), my grandmother lived a longer life than most of her anxious relatives and I suspect happier life because she was not worrying about longevity.
According to modern day statistics these two people should have lived much shorter lives and they should have been a drain on the health care system as well as the pocketbooks of their families. Some may say their stories are exceptional. I don’t think so. I think there are many other stories out there similar to theirs.

By: lorac

lorac — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:58:52 +0000

Ha Thanks, Pat – I didn’t get much sleep last night, so my wicked side came out LOL

By: lorac

lorac — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:55:10 +0000

But no one’s talking about stopping eating… I would agree that some food has redeeming qualities, and some doesn’t. My point was just that most all of us are doing something that hurts others or the environment, but that any majority is usually able to keep the attention focused on the minority!

Have you ever seen the photos of the waste pools at factory pig farms? (I think they’re mostly located in NC….?) Ew, ew, ew….!!! The poor neighbors!

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:08:00 +0000

NO! My bad habits and vices are mine! You can’t have them!

Is not the current message from TOTUS telling me to switch from buying ducktape to healthcare or I will suffer an IRS penalty? (or else?)

So I have some “pre-existing” ~~health issues~~ bad habits. Am I to believe that it will cost me more based on some “risk factor” determined by who exactly?

One of the sad ironies about 9/11 was the people who had to exited the buildings to have a smoke survived. When the smoking ban was instituted in NYC, all of a sudden people poured out into the street to light up.

Love plaid shirt, Pat!

By: trixta

trixta — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:49:15 +0000

Obama smokes, so I guess he should step down as Prez (acually, that would make me very happy!).