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Trinity, Dem Divide and Rezko

Some items of note today:

1) Remember when BO threw TUCC under the bus? There’s a WP article out today about some of the fallout from that. Some Trinity members feel ill-used. I’d say they have a right.

The space under Obama’s bus is full enough now with Wright, Trinity, Pfleger, Rezko, Johnson, his white grandmother, and assorted others to require the outfitting of monster truck wheels.

2) A fascinating article in the Weekly Standard (I know, I know) suggests one way to look at the divide in the democratic party is by labeling the sides Academicians and Warriors.

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The divisions between these two classes tend to be deep. Academicians traffic in words and abstractions, and admire those who do likewise. Jacksonians prefer men of action, whose achievements are tangible. Academicians love nuance, Jacksonians clarity; academicians love fairness, Jacksonians justice; academicians dislike force and think it is vulgar; Jacksonians admire it, when justly applied. Each side tends to look down on the other, though academicians do it with much more intensity: Jacksonians think academicians are inconsequential, while academicians think that Jacksonians are beneath their contempt. The academicians’ theme songs are “Kumbaya” and “Imagine,” while Jacksonians prefer Toby Keith:

Well, a man come on the 6 o’clock news

Said somebody’s been shot, somebody’s been abused

Somebody blew up a building, 

Somebody stole a car, 

Somebody got away,
Somebody didn’t get too far, 

Yeah, they didn’t get too far 

Justice is the one thing you should always find. 

You got to saddle up your boys, 

You got to draw a hard line. 

When the gun smoke settles, we’ll sing a victory tune, 

We’ll all meet back at the local saloon. 

We’ll raise up our glasses against evil forces, 

Singing “Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses.”

Academicians don’t think “evil forces” exist, and if they did, they would want to talk to them. This, and not color, seems to be the divide.

Then the article switches to the race as it is now.

And he [Obama] is up against John McCain, a true Jacksonian if ever there was one. Of course, he dispatched another Jacksonian in Hillary Clinton, who, against all expectations, emerged as a lower-to-middle-class spokesman, and all-purpose warrior queen. As a feminist and graduate of Wellesley and Yale, she was an unlikely choice to appeal to Jacksonians, but she won them over by her grit and tenacity and her stubborn refusal to give in to pressure. Like McCain, she gave the impression that she would never stop fighting, while Obama, as Barone puts it, gave “the impression, through his demeanor and through his statements that he would never start.” Obama may be the first nonwhite with a serious chance of reaching the White House, but he is also the latest in a long line of anti-Jacksonians who have tried, and have failed, to win the office of president. The second obstacle may prove more formidable than the first.

The Appalachia explanation and white racist explanation do not fit nearly as well as this one. And it dovetails nicely with the PUMA like atmosphere found at this blog and others. Although I’d have to say Toby Keith isn’t the ONLY possible bannerman for warriors, Obama’s democratic detractors are definitely warrior-like. Booyah.

3) Rezkowatch has a very helpful discussion of the Obama home purchase issue. While Obama negotiated a nice, much-lower price for his house, Tony Rezko’s wife paid extra for the lot next door. Since both lot and house were sold by the same seller, it looks as if the seller roughly got his asking price but with the house going for below market while the lot went for above market. Later, Obama bought 1/6 of that lot for 1/6 of the price Rezko’s wife paid. The article notes: who would later want to buy 5/6 of a lot, particularly when it is not likely you’d get a building permit for it?

Looks like in addition to a nice discount on his house, Obama wanted to buy just enough of the empty lot next door to make it “unbuildable.” Unusual? Not really. Unsavory? Definitely. Perhaps this is an early application of the “new politics” of real estate.

  • jerry

    Mark my words, this man wont even become the nominee.

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    Booyah! Calling all Jacksonians — PUMA!

    Great post LisaB.

    Was the election fixed? Read what Nancy says:

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/was-the-2008-democratic-primary-election-fixed/

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Yes, and BO’s moving of the DNC headquarters to Chicago is an early application of the “new politics” of the obamanation.

  • SHV

    As is typical for Obama, there is no paper trail for the 1/6 of the lot. Something that I have not seen discussed is, how did the lot get sub-divided and sold?. A bank owned the lot not Mrs. Rezko…and what bank would make their property less valuable? More Chicago Combine business.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    THANK YOU! That’s been my thought all along.

    That is why I also harp on don’t pay academics much mind.

    Shoot, that’s why I’m divorced. :)

  • http://citizens.johnmccain.com/ Colin

    “Trinity of Hell” Obama – Wright – Oprah

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejTmistHFw0

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    So? What does that have to do with the twisted lot deal?

    Here’s what went down: The Obamas wanted the house but could not afford to buy both the house and the lot (requirement of seller), so Mrs. Rezko (not Tony because his assets were at risk) helped out, then helped out again. At minimum the appearance of impropriety is blatant. And the transaction took place while Rezko was being investigated. Judgment? My dog knows better.

  • SHV

    MY prediction…After the GE loss in November, Obama and Blagojevich will be indicted.

  • http://citizens.johnmccain.com/ Colin

    The Honorable James David Manning prays for the salvation of the muslims and the end to the fighting in Iraq. The message was preached on 13 June 2008.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZjq2_w5J7s

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    This is a GREAT article at the link above about fixing the election…go read it now…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U&feature=related Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    Property Owner originally had the property listed as one piece both the garden plot and the house plot.

    The Obamas wanted it but it was more than they could justify affording with thier meager salaries and not have it look suspicious.

    The property owner was a friend of Rezkos.

    Michelle sat on the board of the committee that approved permits to changes on properties marked as Historic.

    This property was classified as historic.

    Rezko Obama and the Property owner discussed a plan where the owner submitted to the city commision to allow the propery to be split into two parcels.

    Usually this process takes a very long time to get approved.

    But with michelle sitting on that comittee the permit proposal was approved and sheparded through in no time.

    The day after aproval Michelle resigned from the board to avoid any appearance of Impropriety…HAHA

    Then lot A with the Hous and Lot B the garden were sold on the sme day to two buyers.

    Rezko’s wife purchased the garden plot for full price while Obama purchased the house plot for 300K lower than the asking price.

    A short time later obama baught a strip of of land back from rezko that made the garden plot inaccessible to anyone unless they went through obama’s gate.

    Oh did i mention tht the bank that provided the mortgages on both parcels was owned by an arab friend of Rezkos? Bank of Harvey i think it is.

    And that friend of Rezkos is the one who was bankroling many of rezkos so called projects…you know the pay for play projects that were the result of the reduced from 15 to 9 member commision that approved the Illinois state employee pension fund disbursements for investments? The same commitee that obama was responsible for reducing from 15 to 9 members of which 5 were in the pocket rubber stampers for Blago Obama and Rezkos pay for play deal?

    Did I explain enough for you?

    Did I?

    Huh?

    Huh?

    The Audacity of Holy shit this looks like corruption!

  • http://elect2009.wordpress.com/ Cindie

    I don’t believe for ONE single second that that church OR the people in it feel “wounded” because Obama left. They might feel “wounded” because they have helped to OPEN our eyes to Black Liberation Theology. That’s one good thing that has come from this campaign. I now realize how ‘some, not all’ blacks really feel about “white folks” (not my words…theirs)

  • http://citizens.johnmccain.com/ Colin

    The Honorable James David Manning explains why Rev. Jeremiah Wright is returning to the pulpit. This message was originally preached on 6 June 2008.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGM1HHC8iwI

    Under the bus? Jeremiah Wright, Father Pfleger? How long will they stay there? They have egos to defend, do they not?

  • Dawnelle

    I guess I’m 80 percent Jacksonian (minus the toby(yuck) & the liking war part! NOT.

    lol

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    and, I also think that they know he had to disassociate himself from Trinity in order to win the POTUS. He’ll be back and they know it.

    I also think that the Wash. Post article was VERY sympathetic to BO, never really illustrating the totally outrageous things that J. Wright, Meeks and Father Pfleger said from the pulpit.

    They also wrote their story that leads the reader to believe that Oprah is still a member, when she (to my knowledge) left that church some time ago.

  • catherine

    You forgot to mention that the sellers also confirmed in their emails that they had “stipulated that the closing dates for the two properties were to be the same.”

    Or that the sellers Sally Radovick and Fredric Wondisford were new professors in 2002 at the University of Chicago where in June 2005 Michelle Obama was vice president for Community and External Affairs for the University of Chicago Hospitals, where she had worked since 2002.

  • catherine

    You forgot to mention that the sellers also confirmed in their emails that they had “stipulated that the closing dates for the two properties were to be the same.”

    Or that the sellers Sally Radovick and Fredric Wondisford were new professors in 2002 at the University of Chicago where in June 2005 Michelle Obama was vice president for Community and External Affairs for the University of Chicago Hospitals, where she had worked since 2002.

  • sinking ratboat

    That is a compelling article in the Weekly Standard.
    It helps me to understand why, as someone from Appalachia ( albeit with two advanced degrees ), I cannot support Obama.
    He does lack that warrior spirit I want in a leader.
    But Hillary IS a warrior and so is McCain.

  • TJ

    LisaB-Appalachians ARE Jacksonians. Appalachia is populated with the Scots-Irish. Studies of their voting patterns show they are hardcore Jacksonians(except in college towns which are populated with academicians). Gen.George S. Patton and Gen.Ulysses S. Grant are examples of Scots-Irish (real) warriors.

    Thanks for sharing that article.

  • Tricia

    With the lot included. in 2005 the Real Estate Market was on fire and noboby was lowering listing price! Ask anyone ! Did you also know that Resko paid for a fence to put up on Obama property ! Not his?

    Obama is a Joke

  • http://citizens.johnmccain.com/ Colin

    Don’t forget Rezko paid the bill to build the fence.

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    can you get us the link, please?

  • http://citizens.johnmccain.com/ Colin

    I hope you’re right Jerry.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U&feature=related Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    there is only so much obamabots can handle. If we give them all the connections and potential links that are platently indivcitive or collusion and corruption at one time their little pea brains would explode and then we would have millions of people with no brains running around that we are not ready to take care of because we dont have universal health care.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U&feature=related Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    sigh…there is so much more detail that we could get into.

    The writers will have a field day with all this stuff after he is indicted and the tell all books start rushing to print.

  • Linda C.

    It is the arugula. Even though Hillary Clinton might also eat arugula, she also enjoys a shot and a beer.

    It is Michele Obama’s I feel your pain because she and Barack just paid off their Ivy league loans, struggled to buy a mansion they couldn’t afford, and wonder where they going to come up with the money for private lessons for their children. It is Barak Obama’s conclusion about guns, the bible and not liking people who don’t look like them. It isn’t that he can’t bowl and maybe doesn’t even like beer. It is that no one here cares about the price of Arugula when we are worried about the price of milk.

    The only presidents we had that were wealthy and privileged, but also who could be in touch with the common folk was JFK and FDR.

    I am not sure “Jacksonian” is a good word. I think it is more the pragmatist versus the idealists. Climbing up Hope Mountain doesn’t appeal to pragmatic thinkers.

    .

  • katmandu

    I’ve noted with interest that the only places I’ve seen Obama stickers recently are on ultra high end vehicles, like Lexus SUVs.

  • libby

    It figures Hillary supporters are Warriors. I posted that term in an earlier thread.

  • http://citizens.johnmccain.com/ Colin

    The Hon. James David Manning, PhD says Barack Obama said his Grandmama is a typical white woman. This message was preached on 22 March 2008.

    Harlem Preacher says Obama got a Typical White Grandmama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjJuATjHpts

  • libby

    That’s because they can afford to be stupid in their presidential choice. If their choice doesn’t work out well they got money so what?

    Now for us working class people … a bad President will completely ruin what little we have left.

  • Democrat

    Don’t you care what your warrior types actually want to do? I mean, Clinton and McCain had entirely different policy positions. Clinton’s goals are quite close to Obama’s and quite far from McCain’s.

  • Dawnelle

    14 Sep 2008

    sounds like a good day to end the occupation

    Does Manning have secret service guarding him? Cuz I imagine BHObots are taking numbers.

    tsk, I picked the wrong day to give up drinking (ala Lloyd Bridges)

  • catherine

    True, but so many of them are already running around without a brain.

    But it’s true that once the indictments start rolling this is going to make Watergate looking like a parking infraction. This truly will go down as the political scandal of the century.

    And as you said there will be far too many books in the coming years on the subject.

  • Anonymous

    Democratic Convention Committee Faces $15M Shortfall

    DENVER — The host committee for the Democratic National Convention faces a possible shortfall of $15 million, complicating logistics for the August event and forcing it to abruptly postpone a media walkthrough of the site scheduled for next week.

    The Democratic National Committee has asked the cash-strapped panel to raise $40.6 million by Monday to finance the event. Last month, the committee said it had just $25 million in cash, and it has failed to meet each of several fundraising deadlines since signing a contract with the DNC last year.

    FIGHT THE SCHMEARS

    In honor of the Obama campaign’s new FIGHT THE SMEARS website (note: the site doesn’t really fight many smears……….instead, it primarily just smears people with a dissenting opinion)

    ……..Chicagoans Against Obama will now be launching our FIGHT THE SCHMEARS campaign……………which will expose Obama’s numerous relationships, advisers, words and actions……….that are Anti-Israel……

    Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up a Muslim

    Apparently the Obamas of Kenya have been reading those scurrilous emails to which Barack likes to refer, because they have no doubt — contrary to the claims of the Obama campaign, that the presidential candidate was raised a Moslem. They take that as a given.

    CAN OBAMA BE PRESIDENT?

    It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president after all for the following reason

  • meileen

    “and then we would have millions of people with no brains running around that we are not ready to take care of because we dont have universal health care.”

    As we know, they already exist. They voted the wrong way, while the rest of us said, “No deal.”

  • catherine

    Obama only believes in Obama. He’s a fraud.

  • ClydeSloppers

    It’s funny at HuffPost right now. The main thread is about Obama in a church speaking about the absence of black fathers from the home and the need for that to change. Black Republicans as well as Bill Cosby have been saying that for years. When they said it, the left would come up with all sorts of reasons why to blame it on mainstream ‘White America’. Now the left are all singing praises to Obama as if he is revealing some great truth.

  • Tricia

    I live in South Florida I see nothing of Obama but a small office in really bad part town that you would need to take cover to go in

  • Dave_Not_For_Obama

    Comment by Colin | 2008-06-15 20:44:25

    Don’t forget Rezko paid the bill to build the fence.

    That’s what convicted Obama felon friends are for I guess, lol.

  • Dan R.

    C’mon Larry …. WHAT ABOUT THE “WHITEY” VIDEO??? You’ve been pretty quiet on that front lately. Spill it, dude!

  • Tricia

    I guess that did not apply to his father who had 8 children and 4 wives. No his Dad gets a book. I wonder what his kids will say about him? maybe why did you take me that racist church Dad

  • typical irishman

    You know Obama got the house below the original asking price? Like $200,000–$300,000 below the asking price. The original asking price for that lot was $450,000. Why did Rezko’s wife pay $650,000 for it? Obama got something like a $300,000 gift from Rezko. In short Obama was shy 300,000 which was added to the price of the lot Rezko’s wife bought. The house and lot deal closed on the same day.

  • ClydeSloppers

    Does the Chicago ‘White House’ have a Rezko Bedroom ?

  • typical irishman

    Go read the post at Rezko Watch, its all about that house and lot.

  • cofer

    How much of OB’s campaign funds come from overseas? So many small donations that do not have to be reported are one way to cover things up. For all we know, other than Soros, any Dictator and enemy of the US could be funneling money to him. Who’s going to look into this?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U&feature=related Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    Blago is getting indicted before the general election.

    Mark my words.

    50/50 on obama. depends how much Rezko sings before they snuff out the canary.

  • typical irishman

    GOD! Don’t even mention divorce. In my first marriage I left home so many times that every time I walked in the door all my clothes would jump in the suit case :) LOL!

  • Dawnelle

    I have seen only 2 BHO bumper stickers in all my travels around my area and none in my immediate area. Only ONE McCain bumpersticker neighbor and one other Hillary neighbor. The rest aren’t saying. LOL

    I may have to get a PUMA bumpersticker next payday – it’s cool cuz NC are panthers anyway so it works!

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    The FACTS are that Rita Rezko (later claiming to make $37K in her hubby’s bond affidavit) bought the lot in a complex trust like the Oblamers.

    The Oblamers made nothing but moolah off of this deal and it’s a tax dodge.

    It’s highly doubtful that any of the cash was actually theirs originally.

    Convicted felons Auchi and Alsamare are the likely suspects.

    Nobody but a crook gets a home the way Barry did.

  • Judith

    I’ve never seen a bumper sticker or a lawn sign. Obama is not supported in my town….and it’s a 2 college town.

  • sinking ratboat

    Link to Weekly Standard article is in above post by LisaB.

  • It’s Not Me

    Too bad Bill’s not running for President! Dumb ass!

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    Do you mean President Bill Clinton, who was scrutinized for years by that idiot Ken Starr at millions of dollars of taxpayer expense, which led to nada?

    Terrorist sympathizer Sen. Obama can’t hold a candle to President Clinton’s eight years of peace and prosperity.

  • Dawnelle

    I’m trying! Is it too late?

  • Dawnelle

    right on LARRY my same JUDGES argument!! right ON! WE’re not gonna cower under that bogus threat!

  • Dawnelle

    Ohh oh oh, John Bachelor! Cool! I keep forgetting to book mark this place.

  • Teakwood

    Kind of helps when your wife is jamming the sale on the Historic Board…knows who the DR is and can make sure the “boneheaded move” happens.

    Michelle Obama used her position for personal gain. And then resigned from the board 1 week after closing on the “Mansion” this house deal was a kickback from beginning to end.

    I would look to her being being prosecuted very soon. Her deposition is out of wack, givin Rezko’s tesimony.

  • Deep Truths

    Bait and switch distraction technique Obamabot. Why bring up something that happened 20 odd years ago, $70 million dollars worth of Republican snooping couldn’t find anything. But Rezko has just been CONVICTED on 16 counts, up to 300 years jail time, and he is a very close friend of the Obama’s.

    Better luck next time.

  • AF catfish

    I’m officially Jacksonian. I feel no guilt voting McCain.

    And Obama – can he be an academician even though he has no brain? Just curious.

  • Deep Truths

    That is your answer. Look at it. Even for an Obamabot that’s an easy WTF. Why pay two and a half times the ‘appraised’ value? Duh.

  • AF catfish

    Perfect time for DNC to move to Chicago. And we haven’t even gotten to the corrupt CPD:

    (CBS) When seven of the Chicago Police Department’s most elite cops were charged with crimes including armed robbery, aggravated kidnapping and home invasion- and one of them was even accused of planning a murder-the nation’s second largest police force was thrown into turmoil.

    Now that’s what I call building a future Democratic party!

  • Uppity Woman

    Gah! I did catch the part about citizenship. Um, if his mom was 18 in Hawaii, instead of 28,and his dad was not an American citizen, then Barky can’t be a born American Citizen? Do I have that right?

  • Uppity Woman

    Make that 26, not 28. Must be a citizen for 10 years after your 16th birthday.

  • Mary

    That’s the BEST I have ever heard it all explained, Jeremiah.

    Thanks!

  • Obama is a bum

    Don’t forget Ferraro, Obama threw her under the bus and when she tried to crawl out he threw her under again.

  • Uppity Woman

    The only Democratic president to serve two terms in 40 years? The one who pulled the party out of the crapper from the last time the radical left wing whack jobs tried to hijack it? The one my portolio misses? THAT president???

  • Northwest rain

    I’ve been thinking at Mrs. Obama is as crooked as the father of her babies (hahaha).

    The huge salary that she gets — a huge bump in salary — HOW many people get such an bump in salary??

    This house was her “dream” house — she knew that her husband was involved in the Pay to Play — because her DAD was part of the Chicago political machine. She is a princess of the system.

  • bart

    Obama’s in a boat full a rats. Ratboat!

    Love the name.

    From Appalachia too and I think you’re right. I think it’s essentially the same reason Kerry didn’t stand a chance down here.

    And since it’s hard to name, it gets defined by “goin huntin.” “drinkin shots” or some other “show me the steel” type activities.

  • BarneyG2000

    So you admit that the Obama’s paid under the value of the property is smear perpetuated by this blog. About time we saw some honesty here.

  • Mary

    Isn’t the job Michelle was working where she got a HUGE raise one month after the hospital received the multi-million dollar earmark designated by Senator Obama?

  • DeniseB

    How can he NOT be a citizen if he was born in the US?

  • BarneyG2000

    You mean the Bill that pardoned those Puerto Rican terrorists? The one that did not retaliate against the Cole attack because of politics. The Bill that now accepts millions from wealthy Arabs to give speeches? Is that the Bill your talking about?

  • memyself&i

    Rezko was the first person thrown off the bus. You can’t see him because the other bodies are covering him up.

  • SueB.

    Whitewater??
    Puleeze! You stupid ignoramous, the Clintons LOST MONEY on the deal. And after 7 years of investigation and millions of dollars spent, they came up with ZILCH. Grow a brain, will ya?

  • Mary

    Agree about the “Appalachians.” These are descendants of the original Scots-Irish who dumped the tea in Boston Harbor, who filled the Revolutionary Army and refused to quit, who led the wagon trains and settled the west.

    VERRRRY intelligent people who believed all children should be able to read, established the first public schools in America, but who NEVER NEVER suffered fools very well.

    For them, Obama is Adlai Stevenson. An academic, a “faculty lounge” guy with lots of lofty discussion, but can’t fix his own toilet or get anything practical done.

    It fits entirely with my own Scots-Irish background.

    Has nothing to do with his being Black.

    He’s just not Jacksonian.

  • Northwest rain

    The story of how the Obamas got their home will play well with Middle America — the ones who are dealing with the mortgage crisis — the ones who are losing their homes. The ones moving out of their home and renting their homes for less money than the mortgage payments.

    I’m sure the GOP is working on an tv ad to inform the public about the sleazy way the Obama’s got their dream home using a now convicted con man’s help.

  • Mary

    Well, let’s just say that Michelle Obama’s complaint that even if she and her husband were making half a million dollars a year, they still had to struggle to pay their daughters’ $10,000 bills for dance lessons…..

    let’s just say that wouldn’t go over very well with these Scots-Irish Jacksonians.

    Pretentious bragging is a sin.

    Being “regular people” even if you have money is something to be proud of.

  • djia

    actually Obama’s bid on the house was the lowest bid not the highest.

    why would a seller accept the lowest bidder over a higher bid?

    who…….are the other bidders?

  • Ivory Bill Woodpecker

    Toby’s acceptable, but I prefer the Dixie Chicks’ “I’m Not Ready To Make Nice”. :)

  • Mary

    Rev. Wright want to go there.

    So does AL Sharpton. And Jesse Jackson.

  • Stephanie

    Tim Novak wrote February 22, 2008, at the Chicago Sun-Times that indicted political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko asked Gov. Rod Blagojevich to appoint real estate agent Donna Schwan Jackson to the Illinois Council on Developmental Disabilities.

    This is the agent that sold them the property.

  • Mandelay

    No the Lincoln Bedroom is much nicer. That’s why we can’t allow Barack and Michelle to foul it up. Nobama in the White House. Ever.

  • Mary

    Gosh, Barney, if THAT Bill is so terrible, Obama shouldn’t ask him to campaign for him.

    Don’t you agree?

  • lastlemming

    I was an associate professor at the University of Chicago for a few years and there is no way I could have afforded anything apporaching this house and lot. How did two new professors afford it? What were they professors of?

  • Mary

    Poor Barney. His posts are so incredibly silly: Whitewater, Lincoln Bedroom, etc.

    He doesn’t have anything to say except Clinton hatred.

    Pathetic.

  • Susan1968

    You keep saying Obama’s close to Clinton on the issues — but there’s no proof of that.

    None whatsoever — we have to take him on his word.

    And, frankly, I don’t.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U&feature=related Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    LOL see everyone benefits in a pay for play scheme that involves obama.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U&feature=related Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    BarneyG2000, make up your mind. Are you an idiot or an obama troll?

    Because you are flirting dangerously with being both.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U&feature=related Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    yup you are a troll an idiot and a tool.

    No matter what information is presented you just wont buy it because its not your flavor of koolaid.

    Your right Obama is one fine stand up fellow, its the rest of the world that is corrupt.

  • Mary

    Don’t need the tape. Just read Michelle’s thesis about Stokely Carmichael and her own feelings about separationism.

    It’s all there, if you’re not too lazy to look.

  • Teakwood

    Thanks for the link… I am going to wonder aloud if there is a dem convention if they will but Hillary on the ticket or vote out BO. hILLARY had accumulate a fair amount of ge cash.

  • Mary

    Good point, Linda.

    Pragamatists, not idealists.

    Well said.

  • Mary

    Good point, Linda.

    Pragamatists, not idealists.

    Well said.

  • Teakwood

    Not this again? Do your homework.

    Michelle was on the Historical Board which the house had to go through an approval process. Michelle saw it listed.
    catherine;
    Michelle Obama was vice president for Community and External Affairs for the University of Chicago Hospitals

    She knew the doctors and made an offer they could not refuse. Sell me the property or it gets jammed and good luck getting it approved for sale. Mean while knowing they could not afford it and having only one person they with that kind of cash ; enter Rezko, whom BO and MO had a relationship with. Auchi wires Rezko the cash, whom BO and MO met and bingo…nice house. MO wanted the side yard to make Rezko’s half un build-able. The plan was to purchase it back to make the lot whole. That plan blew up when Rezko was indited and because of the wired money was viewed as a flight risk by Fitzgerald.

    Why did BO on Rezko’s advise put his primary residence in a Northern Trust? when Illinois law states that principles on a trust do require publication? (see Dennis Hastert) He did not want his house deal known. why did rezko put Jamils house in a trust? same reason.

    The trust takes a loan against the asset not the individual.

    There is more I can go into but suffice to say pressure was brought to bear on the sellers, who’s only statement that I am aware of to date, was an alleged email to Obama’s camp.

    As a seller the “best price” meme is BS on BO’s part. They saw it as one property. The property division occurred when MO realized they could not afford the property but Michelle just had to have it. The seller originally wanted it listed as one property and what ever happened after that was none of their business. The mere fact that the only stipulation they had was they both had to close on the same day meant that to them it was considered one sale…

    Want more? wait until I rescue the docs of my other laptop. (which NQ grinded to dust :) )

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U&feature=related Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    I have a whitey for you…

    …its in my pants.

  • http://pumaparty.com//hillarysmygirl08 Hillaryormccain08

    Does she know the father or fathers of her babys because you know what they say Mama’s baby Daddy’s Maybe. If I were him I would be asking for an DNA test.

  • http://pumaparty.com//hillarysmygirl08 Hillaryormccain08

    I don’t think so either he’s going to implode or he is going to be indicted. The good news is that when that happens all the Obamabots will go jump in the lake.

  • cassie

    everyone mentions The Fence – without mentioning, according to either the Tribune or SunTimes (not sure which) that cost $14,000. Heck of a fence! And the gate to the Obama property, bought by a land trust, not the Obama’s personally, is the only access to both the Obama home and the “garden spot.”

    Obama bought the strip of land from Rezko’s wife at some astromical valued price when Rezko was in deep financial difficulty, it seems and his legal troubles were just beginning.

    You forget all those bitter folks and women that you can find under the Obama bus (now that the attic is filled with “crazy” uncles!)

  • Teakwood

    Because the good doctors were getting jammed. Period. This SOOOO Bada Bing. I grew up watching these kind of deals go down. It makes me sick.

    These people are corrupt. Period.

    Funny thing to think about is once Auchi wired Rezko 3.5 mil through Panama, part of which went to pick up the difference on the sale for Rezko’s part, he became a flight risk.

    Rezko “helps” a friend out and goes to jail as a flight risk.

    Think Rezko doesn’t think about this fact again and again whilst pacing the 8 by 5 he is living in now?

    How BO was the reason he is “stuck” behind bars and not back in Syria?
    I don’t know what is considered a “bus” in prison, but you can take it to the bank , he’ll be under it. He is not ready for any kinda Shaw Shank redemtion; Rezko is not an “institutional” kind of person.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Jeremiah, the property was classified as historic? How old is the house? What is historical about it? Damn it, I feel like such a jackass playing by the rules and obeying all the laws and getting fucking no where but deeper in debt because insurance, healthcare, gas, education, housing and food keep going up. I’m going to go to law school, find the most corrupt bastards in my town and run for public office on their dime and reward them with juicy government contract so I can become filthy rich as well and avoid taxes, and prosecution.

  • Retired

    Corruption, with an emphasis on The Combine.

  • Zeke

    The “shank” in question could easily be lodged between the third an fourth rib on the left side if he isn’t careful.
    What he knows will either set him free or kill him.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Susan Mcdougal was convicted because she refused to lie about the Clintons. See The Hunting of an American President. Susan is a good women and she is interviewed in the documentary. Beside the Clintons lost money on Whitewater.

  • jimbo

    Patrick Fitzgerald is a great American who will know the importance of indicting obama before he can be nominated, if indictment is indicated. He is absolutely convinced one way or the other now, and if indicated, will be dotting the eyes and crossing the tees. At the same time Hillary has not released her delegates, only asked that her followers back obama, which means nothing if obama crashes. So folks, put your money down.

  • Zeke

    Absolutely, 100% wrong. Evil, cheating, rotten, punk to the core that he is, he is also a citizen. He was born in 1961 inside the borders of the United States. That is all he needs. Sorry

  • Zeke

    Is Fitzgerald the final authority in deciding when to indict?
    Does he warm up by cooking the Governor first? Will Biagovich sing when he sees the writing on the wall or will he pray for a Tammany Hall type end run with Obama pardoning the entire state of Illinois, (cause that’s what it’ll take.)
    These criminals are going away forever unless Premiere Obama has the politburo commute their sentences.
    I know I sound like Mr. Bummer tonight but these are the shitty realities. Singing early is no good for any of these turds. They might get some smalltime guy who’s seen everything and is willing to testify, but I can’t think of any of the current players who would have enough to gain for them to risk it.

  • Zeke

    I did write earlier that if Interpol were to put a reward out on a certain Iraqi escapee from the green zone and from a French warrant, that HE might just find it in his interests to rat out everyone due to the fact that Obama can’t save his ass from international justice. (it felt funny even writing ‘international justice’) So, there is one guy who might be persuaded.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Ya know, I think I should tell you, this whole “Larry bring out the tape” argument is not exactly having the desired effect you’re after. But by you bringing it up over and over, it just shows how much Larry has scared the shit out of you.

  • GoHillary

    The weekly standard article is superb.
    the research is exceptional. The only void is that it omits the love of jacksonians for Bill Clinton. No explanation for that.

    The washington post article is a whitewash job, trying to depict the trinity church as victims and nobama as the one wronged by the media. The last modicum of respect I had for washingtonpost has long gone.
    But jacksonians do not read washington post and nobody cares what district of columbia votes for.

  • Thomas

    Let’s not forget BO also threw the Southeastern Seaboard states Congressional Black Caucus members under the bus when he relocated the DUNC headquarters to Chicago.

    I’m sure 5 minutes after that news hit the AP newswire, a rash of WT phone calls lit up his personal line.

    Say, you don’t suppose Hillary could pick off 4 or 5 of those CBC super delegates?

    All she need is to flip 44 of his SIDS.

  • sinking ratboat

    Obama’s daughters: Hey, Daddy, what does ” riding dirty ” mean ?
    Obama: Can’t you just let me eat my waffle ?

  • misspris

    What’s he gonna do about AYHAM? Iraqi announces support for armed operations against US, donates max to Obama: copy & paste-
    http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.radiosawa.com%2Farabic_news.aspx%3Fid%3D1616138%26cid%3D24&sl=ar&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

  • bart

    Interestingly, I think the Jacksonians may have come to like BC for the same reasons they came to like HRC. He came from behind, kept getting up after being knocked down and, at least, understood these people and would talk with them.

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