The Truth of the Matter

I love that video and it sure says everything I would love to say to the Hillster if I could just sit down with her anywhere in this world. I really miss her presence on the national political scene.

ROLL CALL FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!

A National Strike sounds good…
Here’s your hero McCain, the ratfink collaborator…(a taste of whats at http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine06132008.html)

“This poor stooge has propaganda value,” the Vietnamese realized. The Admiral’s bad boy was used to special treatment and his captors knew that. They were working him.

For his part, McCain acknowledges that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given any “special medical treatment.”

However….two weeks into his stay at the Vietnamese hospital, the Hanoi press began quoting him. It was not “name rank and serial number, or kill me,” as specified by the military code of conduct. McCain divulged specific military information: he gave the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, the number of US pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight formation, as well as information about the location of rescue ships. (5)

So McCain leveraged some details to get some medical attention. That’s not anything too contemptible. And who among us civilians is to judge someone in the position?

On the other hand, according to one source, McCain’s collaboration may have had very real consequences. Retired Army Colonel Earl Hopper, a veteran of World War II, Korea and Vietnam, contends that the information that McCain divulged classified information North Vietnam used to hone their air defense system.

Hopper’s son, Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Earl Pearson Hopper was, like McCain, shot down over North Vietnam. Hopper the younger, however, was declared “Missing in Action.” Stemming from the loss of his son, the elder Hopper co-founded the National League of Families, an organization devoted to the return of Vietnam War POWs.

According to the elder Hopper, McCain told his North Vietnamese captors, “highly classified information, the most important of which was the package routes, which were routes used to bomb North Vietnam. He gave in detail the altitude they were flying, the direction, if they made a turn… he gave them what primary targets the United States was interested in.” Hopper contends that the information McCain provided allowed the North Vietnamese to adjust their air-defenses. As result, Hopper claims, the US lost sixty percent more aircraft and in 1968, “called off the bombing of North Vietnam, because of the information McCain had given to them.” 6

The Psywar Stooge

McCain was held for five and half years. Collaborating during the first two weeks might have been pragmatic, but he soon became North Vietnam’s go-to collaborator for the next three years. Given the quality of the military information he allegedly shared, his situation isn’t as innocuous as the pragmatic French barber who cuts the hair of the German occupier. McCain was repaying his captors for their kindness and mercy.

This is the lesson of McCain’s experience as a POW: a true politician, a hollow man, his only allegiance is to power. The Vietnamese, like McCain’s campaign contributors today, protected and promoted him and in return, he danced to their tune.

Not content with divulging military information, McCain provided his voice in radio broadcasts used by the North Vietnamese to demoralize American soldiers.

Vietnamese radio propagandists made good use out of McCain. On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service headlined a story entitled “PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral.” (7)

The story reported that McCain collaborated in psywar offensives aimed at American servicemen. “The broadcast was beamed to American servicemen in South Vietnam as a part of a propaganda series attempting to counter charges by U.S. Defense Secretary Melvin Laird that American prisoners are being mistreated in North Vietnam.”
On one occasion, General Vo Nguyen Giap, the top Vietnamese commander and a nationalist celebrity of the time, personally interviewed McCain. His compliance during this command performance was a moment of affirmation for the Vietnamese. His Vietnamese handlers thereafter used him regularly as prop at meetings with foreign delegations.

In the custody of enemy psywar specialists, McCain became what he is today: a professional psywar stooge.

It is impossible to prove exactly what happened to McCain short of traveling to Vietnam and tracking down his captors, and picking up thee trail where it begins. According to The Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain, McCain says he only collaborated when he brutally tortured by his Vietnamese captors and a wicked Cuban he referred to as Fidel. (8)

He says his confession led him to a suicide attempt.

“In the anguished days right after my confession,” McCain said in his autobiography Faith of My Fathers, “I had dreaded just such a discovery by my father.”

But as McCain discovered, dear old dad did know.

“I only recently learned that the tape I dreamed I heard playing over the loudspeaker in my cell had been real; it had been broadcast outside the prison and had come to the attention of my father,” McCain said. “If I had known at the time my father had heard about my confession, I would have been distressed beyond imagination, and might not have recovered from the experience as quickly as I did.”

But wait! McCain did not commit suicide. In fact, he’s alive, running for President on the “war hero” ticket, and promoting more war everywhere. The new McCain feels no distress at having been a collaborator or a war criminal – if he ever did.

According to Fernando Barral, a Cuban psychologist who questioned McCain in January 1970, “McCain was “boastful” during their interview and “without remorse” for any civilian deaths that occurred “when he bombed Hanoi.” McCain has a similar recollection, writing in his [autobiography] that he responded, “No, I do not” when Barral asked if he felt remorse.” (9)

McCain told [Barral] that he had not been subjected to “physical or moral violence,” and “lamented in the interview that ‘if I hadn’t been shot down, I would have become an admiral at a younger age than my father.’”

“Barral said McCain boasted that he was the best pilot in the Navy and that he wanted to be an astronaut.” The Cuban psychologist concluded that McCain was [a] ‘psychopath.’” (10)

“He felt superior to the Vietnamese up there in his plane, with all his training,” Barral recalled.

Psychopath McCain emerges, now, as a contemptible elitist, stewing in the crucible of his class conscience, the ultimate right wing psywar stooge.

Nice job Lemos!

Larry! Will you be doing a diary on that little Citizenship problem?????????????????????????????

Someone provide the name of the PUMA representative who said on Fox News,

“Sour grapes make the best wine.”

She is a great representative.

McCain ’08
Hillary ’12

Come on Larry, is this the best you can do. We know your are still bitter at Obama for winning. Did he ruin your chance for a job in the Hillary’s White House. I’m still waiting for the 0900 hour update on Michelle Obama whitey remarks you promised. 0900 hours has come and gone 30 days ago and you have produced nothing. As a vet here’s some advice, if you are not in the military or never have don’t use military time. It makes you sound stupid. I guess you have to think up some new lies to tell now. Good luck. Matt Drudge you are not and don’t forget to duck, because of all that sniper fire.

Is there no way we can get this message to Hillary and know that she has seen it and knows that there are millions behind her.

How funny, bots from the barak hussein “GODDAMN KKK OF AMERICA!!!!!!!” obama’s ass infesting this site to tell us that McCain’s an elitist. How very republican, accusing the opposition of the very thing you’re guilty of. Pathetic fuckers. They’ve won the dem primaries and still they’re angry and bitter, but where’s the surprise? Like their gods obama and michelle, angry they are.

“No evidence McCain was a traitor”

Robert Timberg, author of John McCain: An American Odyssey , who has interviewed many POWs who served with McCain, said there’s no evidence that he ever collaborated with the North Vietnamese. “I’ve never known of any occasion in which Sen. McCain provided the North Vietnamese with anything of value,” Timberg said.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/293/

McCain ’08

Hillary ’12

With Dems like PUMA I see why the Dems haven’t won many elections. You have a bunch of delusional people on this blog. Hillary is done, over, gone and all the wishful thinking and bad thoughts about Obama can not and will not bring her back. Grow up people!!! If you want to blame someone for Hillary’s lost start with Hillary.

She was the one who had a 30 to 40 point lead in the polls going into JAN 08.

She was the one who picked that idiot Mark Penn to run her campaign.

She was the one who could not come up with a theme for her campaign until the Texas/Ohio primaries.

She was the one who could not keep the one person who had disrespected worst than anyone else(Bill) under control during the campaign.

If she could not win in 2008 with all that she had going for her, what makes you think she will win in 2012. If Obama loses his supporters will blame her and a large group of her supports will have moved on by then. With the new group of women coming up in politics, Hillary will be old hat and most of these poster (supporters) will have jumped off this bandwagon so fast it will make your head spin.

I’m waiting folks. No takers for my question on Hillary’s accomplishments. Why when I always ask this I get nothing but silence for her supports.

Obama and Hillary did not meet the needed delegates without SUPER DELEGATES STEPPING IN.

Obama was ahead in the state delegates at the end and Hillary was close.

If they would have not counted any super delegates the delegate race was very close.

Additionally, on the ELECTORAL MAP which is the map that REALLY MATTERS Hillary was beating Obama by a large margin by showing she would win big in the general election.
Hillary also won the popular vote.

BUT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Pelosi, Dean, Reid, had this election all planned out from the very beginning. They wanted to be puppet masters.
Obama without experience cannot run this country.
Congress has had a negative poll rating of negative 75 percent for several weeks and negative 60 percent poll rating for months.
They cannot blame Bush for their rating. They made promises and did not keep them and they are running scared, so they need a President they can own and manipulate. That would be Obama.
Hillary would not be owned or manipulated and they know it.
Hillary is a bi-partisan player and an aggressive problem solver and Peliso is the problem, as is Reid and they know with Clinton as president, they would lose their leadership roles.
Pelosi and Reid have lead their congress to hell with these horrific negative ratings and that is why they robbed this election from the American people.

This will backfire on them. They cannot run a country with the majority in congress now and they made many enemies with the way they ran these primaries. The mid-term elections will prove harmful to the Democrats.

Obama has spent his entire political career beginning in 1995 running for one office after another without stopping to serve his constituents. In 10 years he has run for 4 different offices and accomplished nothing.

He is just a warm body for the Democrats to put in the oval office and manipulate.

Hillary Clinton was the fighter, the winner, the true champion of this country. She had the plans ready to go on day one.
She was ready to lead. She was strong.

Obama just repeated her plans, when he spoke, yet he had no idea what the plans were.

Hillary was our last best chance to survive the many crisis we face as a nation.

Hillary Clinton is a fighter and 18 million of us fought for her while the rest voted for an empty shell.

Those who voted for the empty shell just remember what you did when your gas tank is empty and you can’t afford to fill it, your bank account is empty cause you lost your job, and much more emptiness to come

BECAUSE OBAMA IS AN EMPTY SHELL!

After watching that video, it made me cry and then it PISSED me off. I hate the very AIR that all those f**kers @ the DNC and on the RBC BREATHE…especially Donkey Brazirre, the biggest enemy of all to the Democratic party.

May they all rot in hell.

You people remind my of the video of the Hillary support from NY who came to the DNC meeting to complain that her vote was not being counted. Yet she was from NY and they did not any issues with their votes. Just another hysterical woman made because her candidate lost. She is soooo fun just watch it will make you lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s

Larry Sinclair will be speaking before the National Press Club regarding Obama on June 18 at 3 p.m.

Going to the following link to get details of his speech. Very interesting.

http://www.press.org/calendar/caldbevent.cfm?eventid=15742

Wow, that was cheesy. I like it.

I am all for discourse and discussion, but really lets call a troll a troll. Time to ban Alex and Democrat.

If i wanted to read their brand of shit i would frequent the huffington poost.