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Where did the Democrats go wrong?

He is giving up even before he started! “Obama is willing to be a one term president.”

Salon.com has this story, Obama ready to be a one term president?:

Rep. Leonard Boswell, D-Iowa, told a local radio station recently about a conversation the two men had back in February. Boswell says the president told him “he’s willing to be a one-term president if that’s what it takes to get healthcare and energy reform.”

Boswell quoted Obama as saying, “I’m not going to kick the can down the road …. If it makes me a one-term president, I’m going to, we’re going to take it on because the country is in need of us taking this on.”

See here for press secretary Gibbs’ spin on it.

This is from someone who does not know how to work major legislation with a super majority in Congress and is now petulantly saying he is not going to kick the can down the road. I don’t see much of an honest and substantive response to the critics and naysayers about his policy or his plans. But there is this big spin about how he is not going to not attempt doing big things for the sake of re-election. The contradiction and the bamboozling however is that with his clandestine deals, he has made sure that the insurance and the big pharma will continue to fund his 2012 campaign. As we saw in 2008, he is very good at raising money from special interest groups and throw them at his opponents. But what good is that money if it can’t bring him votes? People, and even his own base are alarmed and scurrying away like rats from a sinking boat.

So he says he will pass his health insurance reform come what may but will be satisfied with a wonderful retirement and permanent vacation after 2012 when he loses. He never meant to work hard at anything, damn it, the man did not hold a full time job until his US Senate seat in 2004. An accidental president for one term and a perpetual luxury retirement for life. He does not have to worry about looking for another job ever.

How lucky can he get in life! For the American people, not so much.

hillary-nh

Grown ups like Hillary Clinton will have to step up to clean up not only after Bush I, II, but also Bush III aka Obama in 2012.

Now do they see what she foresaw in that NH cafe during the primary?

Let us bring HER back.

  • sowsear

    I don’t believe anything he says. He’s already stacked the deck for 2012-and beyond if he can manage it.

    • felizarte

      me too. Just another trial balloon. I think he is holding on to the rest of the stimulus money so he can spend it close to the 2010 congressional elections.

      • lorac

        I think he’s just trying to saving face because his poll numbers are so low. I don’t believe he is committed to anything, let alone so committed that he, Mr. Narcissist, wouldn’t care about running again, just to get “his issues” passed.

    • tzada

      You are absolutly correct.

    • carolhaka

      Rassmussen PAI hits new low – -14.

      I predict it goes lower and lower and lower as he shows off this week on vacation while the rest of us have lost our retirements, homes, etc. because he failed to address any of the real issues and stop the bleeding.

      IMPEACHMENT for INCOMPETENCE 2009

      CAROL HAKA :evil:

      • tek

        Carol: the MSM is actually reporting the trip to Martha’s Vineyard as Obie’s “first vacation since taking the White House.”

        • carolhaka

          They must mean he spent Thursday nite there before he left for Camp David on Friday.

          Pigs!

          CAROL HAKA :evil:

        • Kelly

          First Vacation, what a joke !!!! what’s he got to take to Martha Steward about, Oh. wait…Will you thorw money to my re-election campaing ? Vacation com’on more like a vacation for more planned corruption.

  • confusedAmerican

    I think if Obama doesn’t run it will because he knows he can’t win.
    IF Obama can’t win that means people are sick of the whole Obama administration.

    Hate to tell you guys but Hillary is a part of the Obama administration now and prteey much totting Obama’s policies.

    I do not think that Hillary would be warmly welcomed as a replacement for Obama in 2012.
    Futhermore I do not even think that Obama would step aside for anyone in 2012 even if his polls are as bad as Bush’s 2009 polls were.

    • http://www.DailyPUMA.com Alessandro Machi

      The racism card will be used if either Barack Obama is not the nominee in 2012, or if Barack Obama loses next time around.

      • getfitnow

        And if he wins, it will continue to be pulled.

    • tek

      confused: Stop dissing Hillary. You’re either a ‘bot or a Neocon. Hillary is absolutely the best choice. The question is: will she be willing to run again?

  • listingstarboard

    He could care less about this country. He will be so rich by the time he leaves office he will hop on a plane and jet off to another country and live happily ever after.

    • tzada

      Many rich people grow bored and money buys power which lends itself to creating regime like we are now under.

  • rose

    As far as Hillary , just think if Obama had another of his personal friends in her position. I think she is doing a great job and I am glad shes there .I feel safer with someone that knows what she is talking about.,,you notice they don’t really talk much about Hillary and must surely be a sign that she is,they don’t like a light shining on anyone unless it is on Obama and his closest buddies. You have to look for the information because regular cable and news have only been talking about obama and michael jackson. NQ is an excellent place to get information that these people neglect.

    • Thinker

      Very insightful rose!!!

      The only time the media brings up Hillary is to criticize her for doing something wrong, but when she’s doing something right, not a peep from them.

      If a personal friend of Obama was the SOS, we would see him or her on the Sunday talkshows every week and on the news every night.

  • waterstradt

    Democrats, realizing the success of the President’s “Cash For Clunkers” rebate program, have revamped a major portion of their National Health Care Plan.

    President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and Sen. Reed are expected to make this major announcement at a joint news conference later this week. I have obtained an advanced copy of the proposal which is named “CASH FOR CODGERS” and it works like this…

    “Couples wishing to access health care funds in order to pay for the delivery of a child will be required to turn in one old person. The amount the government grants them will be fixed according to a sliding scale. Older and more prescription-dependent codgers will garner the highest amounts.

    Special “Bonuses” will be paid for those submitting codgers in targeted groups, such as smokers, alcohol drinkers, persons 10 pounds over their government-prescribed weight, and any member of the Republican Party.

    Smaller bonuses will be given for codgers who consume beef, soda, fried foods, potato chips, lattes, whole milk, dairy products, bacon, Brussels sprouts, or Girl Scout Cookies.

    All codgers will be rendered totally useless via toxic injection. This will insure that they are not secretly resold or their body parts harvested to keep other codgers in repair.”

    This is a joke, of course, but the best humor always has an element of truth.

    • PO’dVet

      I think you need to send that to Bill Oreilly!

      • lorac

        It’s good. I saw it earlier today on another website, but I can’t remember which one.

    • pm317

      Good one. It indicates layers of truth about Obama’s current predicament and then some about his sanctimonious nature(it does not matter that he smokes and then lies about it). You would not be writing or even thinking about this but for the Obama reality show.

      • tzada

        Plus his wife and his Surgeon General are overweight as is his chief hearter Oprah.

    • Adopted

      OMgosh .. that is hilarious Water … Totally love it! And you’re right, it does have an element of truth. With Obama, everything old (Constitution, healthcare system, cars, seniors) is worthy of destruction, not preservation.

    • Tammy

      DAMN, that was funny.
      Thanks for the laugh, man!

    • bayareavoter

      Ha! I love it

    • tzada

      I shiver as I laugh…

  • imustprotest

    He’s so arrogant. This latest statement is his feeble attempt at being a martyr. Look Barry, you’ll get a second term if we say you do, it’s not a given!

  • trist

    “Lucky”???? Luck had nothing to do with it. Why do you think he’s ramming all this through in his first year? Because next year the Repubs will be back. He’s got to do the bidding of his masters who paid to get him there while he has the chance. Then wait it out till 2012 when he will be happier than anyone to leave that job.
    He’s already got what “he” wanted out of it. Attention, his own special little place in history and money, having to actually work now in his mind would be ludicris!

    Yeah, we should all be so “lucky!”

    • Thinker

      I agree. Obama seems to only be in this for the fame. A sitting President appearing on Jay Leno, making fun of handicapped people, etc. He’s so grotesque.

  • Peggy Sue

    “Obama ready to be a one-term president?”

    I don’t believe that for one minute. I think Obama and his inner circle will do anything and everything to hang onto to power by the very things that they were willing to do during the primary and GE season.

    A statement like this is just to get people to let their guard down, pretend that they’re working like hell for the sake of the public when in reality, they’re cutting deals left and right with corporate interests, for their own bloated interests and spheres of influence.

    I don’t trust this Chicago gang as far as I could throw them. The time to act is in 2010 & 2012 to make that statement of faux-modesty and goodwill, a raw and irrevocable fact.

    • NoBamaNoWay

      yep.

      • http://syd4.blogspot.com/ SYD

        Exactly.

        If he was willing to be a one term president we’d have universal, single payer care now. Not back room deals with big Pharm and Insurance.

        Anyone who believes this tripe is sipping the kool-ade in his/her spare time.

        SYD

        • pm317

          If he was willing to be a one term president we’d have universal, single payer care now. Not back room deals with big Pharm and Insurance.

          Precisely.. it is just the big spin and a dare. His failure comes not as a result of doing big and unpopular things but by doing things incompetently. They are spinning to cover their ass.

  • Steve_in_KC

    Obama has never stuck with any job longer than three years. He just likes the challenge of getting the job, not doing the job.

    He doesn’t have anything to prove any more, so why go through the possible humiliation of getting beat in a re-election bid?

    If he decides to not seek a second term, for whatever reason, Hillary still has the chance to make history as the first female to lead a major ticket, even if the pendulum swings back to a Republican president. Even if the odds say she can’t win, because of sexism or Clinton Derangement Syndrome on the part of voters, she’s earned the right to be her party’s nominee in the next election.

    Nice piece, pm!

    • Adopted

      Yep! Hillary earned it.

  • christine from chicago

    the reason, is plain and simple…next election he will have to produce documentation that he is indeed a natural born citizen of this country…
    and if he were…he would not have spent over 1.35 million dollars in legal fees to suppress the very information….that any american could produce for a few bucks…
    All this having been said….the situation makes him an extremely dangerous president…he will try and slam as much detrimental legislation as he can, he will do as much damage as he can before he leaves office…
    he is a ruffian and a crook..and ineligible….

    • tzada

      christine, how do people in Chicago feel about Obama? Give us some insight if you will.

      • christine from chicago

        I gotta tell you..I am 58 y/o and I have been politically active all my life…more so the last 8-10 years…I have never experienced anything like this before..people are afraid to speak…and while they will tell you what they think in hushed tones..they are afraid to speak freely. We in Illinois and esp. Chicago understand how grossly corrupt our politicians are..it is unbelievable..every day more dirt surfaces about any one of them…they back each other up and it all gets wept under the rug…news has it that mayor daley supported Obama bid for prez to get him out of the state… anyone who comes out of the chicago political machine is hopelessly corrupt…
        Chicago knows Obama very well, Axelrod, and esp. Valerie Jarret are looked upon with contempt..Jarret, though extremely intelligent, has the reputation of being a back-stabber, very mean spirited and not trust-worthy…
        so…Chicagoans are not on board 100% with Ali-Bama and his gang of thieves..and they never have been…
        I do think that next years election losses by the democrats have been grossly underestimated…simply because people are just too scared to speak their mind..but they are NOT happy!

        • tzada

          thanks for the insight… when Daley outfitted all the police with assault weapons it made me take notice too,

  • oowawa

    Picture it: just before Christmas, 2011. The O-Faithful will march to the White-House, 69,000,000 strong, whipping themselves Iran style, crawling the last 2 miles on their bloody knees, imploring tearfully “Pleeeeeeeze Staaaaayyyy!” The Tingler will be there covering the event for MSNBC, tears streaming down his face. Two days they will camp out, holding candlelight vigils at night . . . and finally, after the Blue Angels flyover and the tastefully subdued fireworks are over, Thee One will appear, noble chin tilted upwards, and suddenly the huge throng will hush . . . . Is that faraway voice singing “Silent Night” the ghost of Mahalia Jackson? Do you think the Holy O will fail to hear the fervent prayers of his supplicants??? Nawwwwwww . . .

    • NoBamaNoWay

      ha ha; i like the image of the bots whipping themselves. the scary thing is how easy it is to believe this could actually happen.

  • candymarl

    “Where did the Democrats go wrong?” Got a coupla days? Now where do I start? Huh.

  • Diana L. C.

    It’s rationalizing; that’s what he’s doing. I always thought that given his lack of long-term work history, he would not be able to make it 8 years. He just can’t make himself want to work. This health care push back from the town hall meetings and the tea parties made it seem like real work for him, so he’s giving himself a way out.

    It’s o.k. by me if he goes. Just please, please, please–whatever Powers there are, whichever God, Gods, Goddess you pray to–send out requests for a good leader. I do like Hillary. But I’m o.k. if she is not up to it. She really does deserve a life.

    I’m just vidictive enough, though, that I want every single obot to be sent to a school to learn what they should have learned before: the whole truth about Obama, the need to vet a candidate, the necessity of a candidate having some kind of experience. Make them pass a difficult test.

    • Tammy

      That’s not going to happen, Diane.
      The youth have been indoctrinated, and critical thinking is not the agenda in schools these days, or in politics, or in media.
      And the Clintons are to be silenced under this dictator.

      I just hope we can maintain the internet before we are deemed “racists” and “un American” for voicing our opinions.

      This President is a nightmare.

  • Cathy in Ks.

    I agree with “trist”. I think Obama will be more than happy to be a one-term president. The man seems to know only how to campaign and even then I recall he seemed to be always taking mini-vacations. I think the man is permanently arrested in adolescence. (Remember his pathetic finger on the side of his face during a couple of campaign speeches when talking about Hillary Clinton during the democratic primaries and then later the “lipstick on a pig” comment about Sarah Palin during the presidential campaign. This is what we want coming from the leader of the most powerful nation on earth – an immature “frat” boy?)

    I guess what bothers me the most is who or what is the power behind the throne because I sincerely think there is someone manipulating not only Obama but much of the leadership of the democrats in congress. I also think these power figures are controlling much of the MSM. For example – how does MSNBC stay on the air with their consistently poor ratings now for how long? How does the New York Times stay afloat? Weren’t they facing bankruptcy?
    The list could go on and on of those news outlets who are failing but somehow seem to stay in business despite readership or viewers leaving them in large numbers.
    I too voted for many republicans last November because I was so angry about how the democratic party treated Hillary and I couldn’t “stomach” Obama. In 2010, I may be voting “republican” again if congress tries to ram through their health care bill, without listening to the concerns of “we the people.”

    • juststoppingby

      you sound all wee weed up there, Cathy.

      /snark

      • Cindy

        funny!

    • FranSC

      ….who or what is the power behind the thrown because I sincerely think someone is manipulating not only 0bama but much of the leadership of democrats in congress

      Kathy in Ks. that power is not so behind the scenes. Nancy Pelosi has been in charge of the domestic agenda, aka, the stimulus package and health care bill. Both were in her desk drawer waiting for January 20th. She will continue to have the agenda ready.

      Rham Emanuel tells 0 every move to make. Otherwise, this *brilliant* dingbat would be clueless. Remember, he had no experience which his cult tauted over and over as a good thing. He remains inexperienced, clueless.

      Being a narcissist does not lend itself to reality. So, regardless of what his approval rating is in 2012, whether he jams the most liberal version of health care down our throats, as he just may do, he WILL run again.

      There is no way this man with his superiority complex will not run. The media, the dem leadership, the social networking that is still in play, MoveOn.org is ready to startup the caucus fraud again, his fundraising, half of which should be investigated for fraud, are all waiting to begin again.

  • Craig Della Penna

    One term president? OK, by me, in fact let’s make him a one year president – Biden would be better than this twit.

    No brains, no chops, no balls – that’s our Obama.

    • Cindy

      “No brains, no chops, no balls – that’s our Obama.”

      As Carville said during the Primaries……”if Hillary gave Obama one of her balls, they’d each have one”.

      • Seattle Moss

        Hello Cindy,
        I want you to know my real name

        Clint Cox
        clintdcox@comcast.net

        • Seattle Moss

          Hey Cindy,
          The reason I gave you that info is that when you have a moment check out my page over on face book

          The revolution just got a whole lot bigger!!

  • sandi78

    I think he’s been running for re-election since he was sworn in, possibly longer, however I’d love to think that this statement means more than his pledge to filibuster the FISA bill.

  • fif

    Yea, he’s really fighting hard for the principle of universal health care huh? (While he’s brokering deals with Big Pharma, insurance companies, and the GOP). He’s willing to go for broke…right. When did he EVER exhibit political courage in his career? So why is anyone surprised that he does not know how to do battle now? Hillary warned everyone, and now this historic opportunity has been lost. I hope all the suckers who got swept up in emotional manipulation are happy.

  • WMCB

    It’s just the typical narcissist bullcrap. He can’t bear to think of himself as being hounded out of office as a disliked FAILURE, so he has to create an alternative inner reality:

    :I shall be….. a glorious and long suffering martyr for a noble cause… yeah, yeah, that’s me. That’s what it really is….That’s why I’ll be doing only one term…”

    Narcissists are always the star of their own inner narrative, regardless of the reality at hand. Obama will NEVER be disliked or hated. He will only be “persecuted” by those who cannot understand his great sacrifice.

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      Yep. Having dealt with a true narcissist up close and personal, this is exactly how one would behave.

  • nan

    Wasn’t Michelle quoted in the primaries saying they’d be so rich after one term he wouldn’t not run for a second?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Where did the Dems go wrong?

    PM317, doesn’t it depend on who is responding?
    If it was Rahm ,right about now, he’d be thinking it was the Dems they ran in conservative districts. Now those same people they ran are being run over and being called all manner of things by their fellow Democrats, Maxine Waters comes to mind or Pelosi saying “unAmerican or BO recently saying he could “garentee” healthcare will pass.
    Did they really want to win or did they just want “seat warmers”?

    For me it was having Dean run for president and end his run with the politcal Kung Fu “death scream”.

    • Cindy

      teak—Maybe the Dems could use Dean’s “death scream” when they institute their “death panels”?
      That would certainly break the ice during one of their end-of-life “counseling” sessions, wouldn’t it?

      • rose

        have you notice many talking about Dean running for pres?? saying he is a very strong candidate

  • Tammy

    The Democrat party has been taken over by LOONS.
    Just like the Repubs were taken over by the extreme Right.
    Can we save this Republic in spite of these numbskulls?
    Huh?

    • http://syd4.blogspot.com/ SYD

      I am really beginning to wonder, quite frankly.

      Loons on the Left, Fundies on the Right.

      Can the PUMAs and Patriots prevail?

  • Steve_in_KC

    I have given a lot of thought to the issue of “how could Obama have been elected, considering what little the country knew about him?” I wanted to write an in-depth post about it.

    The problem I kept facing was that the answer is too short and simple: many Republicans stayed home on Election Day, something they rarely do. They had plenty of reasons, which most of us know by heart.

    They won’t be staying home in 2012. One term, and it’s goodbye Jimmy Carter Barack Obama.

    And just for the record, I’m not a Republican, and I don’t like most Republicans. Independent moderate, that’s me.

    • tek

      Steve: I think the rest of the problem was that millions of Democrats got caught up in either the fascination of a black president, or the guilt of not voting for the first viable black candidate. Then, Axelrod figured out to target college kids to add to the Dem rolls. In ’08, they’ll have the newly amnestied hispanics to swell the Democratic rosters. La Raza and the Hispancic Coalition will herd them all to the polls to get the majority.

  • Cindy

    Another great post…Thanks!
    “Where did the Democrats go wrong?”
    If you ask me, it was in the early days of the Civil Rights movement..a movement that initially EXCLUDED women.
    In 1964 Stokeley Carmichael, the black community activist, made his infamous remark that “the only position for women in SNCC is prone.”
    (SNCC= The Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee, one of the primary organizations of the Civil Rights movement).
    Look how far we women have come….? And Obama and the liberal Democrats are STILL excluding us.
    On the flip side, look at what Republicans have done for women……they were responsible for passing Women’s Suffrage; a Republican Supreme Ct. justice on a Conservative Supreme Ct. wrote the majority opinion for Roe v. Wade; Republican President Ronald Reagan gave us the first woman Supreme Ct. justice.

    • imustprotest

      Women are always last. African American men were given the right to vote decades before women of all colors:

      The 15th Amendment, which benefited only men, also divided two longtime allies — activists who opposed slavery and those fighting for women’s suffrage.

      Many women’s rights leaders refused to support the 15th Amendment, saying women, too, should have the right to vote. Instead, women had to wait until 1920, when the 19th Amendment gave them access to the ballot box.

      “Some leaders in the women’s suffrage movement felt deeply betrayed,” said Monk. “This wasn’t healed until the end of the 19th century.

      • Cindy

        imustproest—You’re exactly right——Frederick Douglass really stuck it to Susan Anthony and Elizabeth Stanton. After they befriended Douglass and bankrolled the anti-slavery movement for 30 years!! It’s pathetic the way those good women were betrayed by white AND black men.

    • Seattle Moss

      Cindy,
      We can see that Republican Women are taking up the mantle to fight the epic battle against these America hating thugs.
      Us guys are right there to help!

      The Republican party is the party of individuality and equal rights for all that participate.

      • Cindy

        Absolutely, Seattle!
        Your words are poetry!

  • glennmcgahee

    There is only one way that Obama was elected in the first place – MONEY! That was some big money coming in month after month for his campaign. All for the guy who promised campaign reform.
    From now on, there will be no fair elections, its gonna be who has the most money period. That money comes from the BIG Corporate donors, not you and me. They are being given the keys and treasure of the kingdom as we speak. By 2012, there will be no more treasure and Obama will go home to live off of the rewards granted to him by Wall Street. The only reason he would stay is to keep the investigators away from The Chicago Team.

    • Katmoon

      And…never to forget the complicit DNC, and what they did, caucus fraud,and demonizing loyal democrats, beginning with the race card and ending with the most blatant sexism seen in decades.

    • oowawa

      By 2012, there will be no more treasure

      I agree with your statement glenn, except I’m afraid there already isn’t any more treasure. To use an example from classical literature, if the US Treasury were Scrooge McDuck’s money bin, and he dove in for his morning swim, he would hit the concrete bottom of his empty vault: the Beagle Boys had broken in during the night and cleaned it out.
      Fortunately, he has ordered several brand new high-speed computer driven printing presses . . .

  • tzada

    The date December 21st, 2012 A.D. 11:11 am GMT

    Represents an extremely close conjunction of the Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic (path of the Sun), what that ancient Maya recognized as the Sacred Tree. This is an event that has been coming to resonance very slowly over thousands and thousands of years. It will come to resolution at exactly 11:11 am GMT.

    The end of the Mayan calender and end of time or a reset of time, like a cars odometer? We live in interesting times, like the Chines curse says. If Obama loses we lose, if Obama wins we lose. I think impeachment one by one is in order. Three at one time starting at the top is a good place to start.
    Zero, because he is not eligible. Biden because he came into office upon the ticket of an inelible candidate and Polisi because she certified him without vetting.

    Here is the order. Robert Byrd at least said that the Czars were un consititutional. Hillary would be 5th, which would gladden some people.

    The Vice President Joseph Biden
    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi

    President pro tempore of the Senate1 Robert Byrd
    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
    Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner
    Secretary of Defense Robert Gates
    Attorney General Eric Holder
    Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar
    Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
    Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke
    Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis
    Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius
    Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan
    Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood
    Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu
    Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
    Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki
    Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano

  • Regina

    Words just words……….Obama lies, lies, lies…..why is there no outrage regarding his hidden official records…..what is he hiding? I would like to see these questions posed by the drive media….that is how you can stop his destruction of our country. Ridicule will minimizes his stature and power and more democrats will awaken and separate themselves from him. He will then have to wee wee himself back to his corrupt roots.

    • Thinker

      It boggles the mind.

      I want one journalist to sit with Obama and ask him directly to his face, “Why are so many of your records sealed after you promised voters you would be transparent? Why have we viewed everyone’s medical records except for yours?”

      Something just isn’t right and I want to know who is protecting him.

  • tzada

    The date December 21st, 2012 A.D. 11:11 am GMT

    Represents an extremely close conjunction of the Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic (path of the Sun), what that ancient Maya recognized as the Sacred Tree. This is an event that has been coming to resonance very slowly over thousands and thousands of years. It will come to resolution at exactly 11:11 am GMT.

    The end of the Mayan calender and end of time or a reset of time, like a cars odometer? We live in interesting times, like the Chines curse says. If Obama loses we lose, if Obama wins we lose. I think impeachment one by one is in order. Three at one time starting at the top is a good place to start.
    Zero, because he is not eligible. Biden because he came into office upon the ticket of an inelible candidate and Polisi because she certified him without vetting. Order of sucession in part II

  • tzada

    Part II

    Here is the order. Robert Byrd at least said that the Czars were unconstitutional. Hillary would be 5th, which would gladden some people.

    The Vice President Joseph Biden
    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi

    President pro tempore of the Senate1 Robert Byrd
    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
    Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner
    Secretary of Defense Robert Gates
    Attorney General Eric Holder
    Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar
    Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
    Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke
    Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis
    Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius
    Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan
    Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood
    Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu
    Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
    Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki
    Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/obamas_karmic_freight_train.html

  • tzada

    The Vice President Joseph Biden
    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi

    President pro tempore of the Senate1 Robert Byrd
    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
    Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner
    Secretary of Defense Robert Gates
    Attorney General Eric Holder
    Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar
    Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
    Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke
    Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis
    Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius
    Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan
    Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood
    Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu
    Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
    Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki
    Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano

  • tzada
  • Fran

    I don’t know. I think O may be at least ambivalent about a second term. Like W, he probably found out there is some work involved – and not everyone loves you. I think that he loses interest in things once he gets the prize. Follow through is boring, especially when things don’t all fall into place the way he expected them to.

    I actually don’t think he cares so much about having money, although I think he likes the trappings. It’s more the adulation he seeks. I do think MO cares more about having lots of money.

    I think he may look at Bill Clinton, retired and admired and think he would like to be in that position, or be a little jealous.

  • tek

    What does The One care about 2 terms? No one else will ever be the first black president, so Obama’s made whatever happens. He’ll have tons of speaking engagements and job offers. He’ll write books and retire to Hawaii.

    This is not a person who’s interested in public service. This is a person who’s interested in being a rich, famous celebrity.

  • http://none jessiebritton

    Two large voting groups determined the outcome of the previous general election. That being the very young and AA groups. Neither of these two groups will leave him under any circumstances. one is addicted to kool aid and the other is racial pride. Since day one, Obama and the Democratic congress has been (not to skillfully) constructing its legislative record record, rewarding its friends and punishing its enemies, aiming at the 2010 and 2012 elections. Health care has always played some part in Democratic politics, like guns, God and abortion has played to the Republican’s. It brings out the faithful in droves, but something funny happened in 2008. The Democrats won to many senate seats. OMG they won a super majority and could now pass anything they wanted. Now its time to “put up or shut up” and any plan that they devise will have to be paid with additional taxes or cuts in medicare benefits. So anything they pass now is going to upset two very large voting groups, the middle class and the elderly. These are Republicans and Democrats and if you united them and they vote against you, you will lose.

    • Thinker

      You are absolutely right Jessie.

      The very young and AA’s were the driving force in this past election. The young are fickle and I can seem them turning on Obama just as fast as they eagerly supported him.

      With AA’s, …honestly, it will have to be something MAJOR to get many of us to turn against Obama. It will have to be proven beyond a shadow of doubt that he is not qualified to be president.

      And now that the elderly are against Obama? They are the ones that actually vote on a regular basis and that’s doom & gloom for the Democrats.

      I don’t really know how to put this into words, but I feel sort of worried that AA’s won’t be taken seriously as a voting bloc anymore? I think that some will say that we are “emotional voters” or something. OR The fall of Obama could have a sobering affect on us. We can’t just want someone to have the job simply because they look like us.

      • pm317

        Thinker, thank you for your comments.

  • Docelder

    An accidental president for one term and a perpetual luxury retirement for life.

    Maybe the only thing that might compete with the disaster of having this guy as President… will be having him running around as an ex-President. Jimmy Carter II on steroids. He can apologize and talk down America and it’s allies across the world with impunity.

  • live oak

    The Clintons are scum….both of them!!!!!

    • NYC Girl

      Hopefully, this “live oak” will meet up with a long-horn beetle very soon!

      Hillary 2012! :-)

    • morris1030

      Live Oak has fatal Elm’s disease.

  • live oak

    And Kenya Boy is a pathological liar of the first degree!!!

  • VinceP

    Regarding Barry’s election, I wanted to add to what other people said about the groups who voted.

    There is a group that DIDN’T vote, disgusted with both parties… Religious Conservatives sat out the election of 2008.

  • Thinker

    Grown ups like Hillary Clinton will have to step up to clean up not only after Bush I, II, but also Bush III aka Obama in 2012

    - I LOVE this statement and I feel the exact same way.

    It taks a Clinton to clean up after a Bush AND an Obama.

  • Karen

    >>>>>>( Ok sure he is , Obama knows that he has his specil interest in nd ready to go by 2012 election.and if you think about it….Obama is again lying that ready to be a one term president?:Sure he is, LIAR ! Obama is just saying that in trying to lead people to believe that he will do this health care for the best of the american people no matter if he becomes a “One Team President ” Now, he sure is lying on that.He will say anything to try and pass this “dead of america bill ” As if,he says a one term president…now, Sarah Palin stepped down because the democrats made false charges many of them which was costing the tax payer in this.YEP…DEMOCRATS CAUGHT ON TAPE AND VIDEO AS PALIN AS DAY DOING THIS NOT ONLY TO SARAH PALIN BUT TO THE TAX PEOPLE. so, Sarah Palin took steps to protect the people and doing her own thing behind the curtains for the people of america..
    So, if you think about it.Obama takes Sarah Palins words and he guts to do whats right for the tax payer in what the democrats did oh, so nasty and wrong at all cost to the tax payers. Now Obama stands there and says the same.Who is he thinks he is fooling ? “The one time just for the good of the people ” BLAH BLAH..such a liar.He will not step down, but he will be voted out 2012. He has his special interest now deep into his pocket and he has his special interst on the side lines for 2012 re-election.” Oh, don’t play that..if it’s for the good of the people crap” Once he gets this health care bill passed.even if he doesn’t , you think he will be a one time president ? not iif he can help it with his WALL STREET BUDDIES-ACORN- SPECIAL MAIN STREAM MEDIA AGAIN LYING TO THE PEOPLE FOR HIM..The gane will change for 2102- The democrats main stream media/press and Obama will say… It’s the republicans fault.. they di this mess- they wanted more government control, I did not. And if I am re-elected, I-I -I promise I will not play the games with special intrest- I will not have them work for me- There is no place in My white house for that … Yes. Now he is trying to use the good words and a doer of Sarah Palin. The thing is..Sarah Palin says it and goes for it and she keeps good and true to her words , unlike Obama that’s just it “They are just false lying words from his mouth for his own agenda. We heard it all..His lies of his campaign-his special main stream media of msnbc-nbc-cnn-abc-cbs, His press. If it causes me to be one term president then that’s ok, because this is good for the people ” Oh, crap !! Spit your lying words somewhere else Obama ”
    He knows, who he has waiting behind the curtains when re-election comes around.

    Sarah Palin did for the people of what the democrats caught on tape saying and on video saying to stone watch Sarah Palin as making false claims and useing our justice systerm to do it.And they laugh and enjoys and palned plots agaist Sarah Palin at the cost of tax payers…. Obama, even if it mean a one time president , give me a break, such a liar he is and taking words of what Sarah Palin of saying she is steeping down cause it’s costing the tax payer money. Now Obama is saying… if it’s A one time president to get this halth care bill passed, then so be it… oh yeah, playing the games again as if he will be willing to be a one time president..Right around the corner is the special interest waiting to help fund his campaign for 2012.. Whos Obama thinks he is fooling ? Not me ! and millions millions of americans see right through him.. He is a liar !

  • Peter

    Let us bring HER back. Now I disagree to bring Hilly back on this one……It’s Sarah Palin that we need for 2012 not no democrat ! I am an independent voter after what saw in the democrats-congress and all the back lash they put on the people and Hillary in campaigning said this and that.And now that she is still a democrat and S.OS, WELL SHE HAVE THE GUTS TO STAND UP FOR US, IF SHE CAN’T DO IT NOW ?

    No thanks !!!!

    SARAH PALIN..WE NEED SARAH PALIN 2012

  • Peter

    Let us bring HER back. Now I disagree to bring Hillay back on this one……It’s Sarah Palin that we need for 2012 not no democrat ! I am an independent voter after what saw in the democrats-congress and all the back lash they put on the people and Hillary in campaigning said this and that.And now that she is still a democrat and S.OS, WELL SHE HAVE THE GUTS TO STAND UP FOR US, IF SHE CAN’T DO IT NOW ?

    No thanks !!!!

    SARAH PALIN..WE NEED SARAH PALIN 2012

  • mary

    Obama is the worst in 6 months then people thought in Bushes full eight years.

    Obama will play any game.. word games no matter what it takes to do. Immigrats oh yeah, they be like ..Whattttttttttttt no health care for us ???
    After, ha ha got you again america, I just said that as i am full of just words.The immigents will say man Obama you had us fooled but, now we know what you said that… They will be giving health care at tax payer cost. see Obama, don’t care if he says no health care for immigents cause he knows it’s not true and when and if he gets this passed, they do get the health care..

  • Alice Paul

    I’d vote for Hillary in a heart beat! I am not voting republican again and if the dems ever, ever run someone as lame as Obama I won’t vote for one of theirs either. But Hillary reflects my values and is doing a great job as S.O.S. PLUS she CAN DO what she SAYS. Her health care plan was far more comprehensive, doable and understandable than his ever was.

    I sometimes think the reason the dems didn’t want her is that they KNEW she was going with her plan as was NOT going to make those back room deals with pharma and “United Health” that the democratic party needs. United Health..runs A.A.R.P. AND was a huge donor to Obama AND was the LARGEST donor to the Dems National Convention in Denver.

    Those are his backers. It’s pay off so they will support him later again. He doesn’t give a rats ass about your health care.

    If he’s a one term pres, I say hip hip hooray and bring back Hillary!!

  • morris1030

    It’s 3 AM and the red phone is ringing. But Obama won’t pick it up.