Update on Barack’s Birth Question

There is something coming down the pipe that will be very damaging to the Obama camp. That is why there is such an urgency about everything that is going on. The endorsements, setting up an anti smear campaign, the fund raising, eliminating the role call at the convention, moving the DNC to Chicago. It seems very odd that they would go through such a power grab if there was not something that they fear will make him undesirable to the public and hoping that if they can get the entire machine under one roof and well funded they can somehow get out of it.

Just to say – wouldn’t he have had to prove his citizenship when he filed to run? Compared to what I had to show the DMV when I went to renew my driver’s license last year, I would think (hope) that a person running for the highest office would have to at least provide their birth certificate to prove that he/she qualifies. Heck, even my birth certificate wasn’t enough for my stupid license.

Wait, what are you now claiming he is hiding? Clearly as an Obama supporter (-bot?, etc) I am an idiot who is missing something obvious here.

Let’s see – if a copy of the birth certificate is available online, what exactly is being hidden? The annotated version? Cliff notes? What?

@baba yaga

This is a simple request from curious citizens:

Obama, sir, could you please show these kind voters your real birth certificate? Nothing much, you see. A trifle, really. Just a little document, which we are sure you can produce in not time at all. Thank you kindly.

Rather than Taylor Marsh foam at the mouth because Gore endorsed Obama I would of appreciated her site more if she was asking the right questions about Obama, seems as if she has throw all her questions behind her and jump on the train.

Guess people loyalties are really in short supply these days, one thing this election has shown me is that you should never place all your trust in people around you, always leave room for the unexpected, I have never seen so many turncoats and rats leaving a sinking Hillary ship in all my life, now they are all lining up and jockeying for a post in a Obama’s administration if he wins, it is really something to look at the way people change like the weather.

I know you guys are having a good time and all, but as a point of information, in this country, many people no longer have their original birth certificate, and even if they do, it no longer has a raised seal. The copy you see is what it will look like if you go to your vital statistics office and get a new birth certificate, and it will look exactly like the one on his site.

If you have legitimate concerns, bring them forth, this just makes you look insane.

Obama came to the USA to live with granny when he was 10 years old. He’s been here to visit many times with his mother Stanley. His father abamdoned he and his mother when he was 6 months old, she met and indonesian marxist man and went to indonesia to marry him and took barry with her. Barry has a half sister from that marriage. Stanley divorced and died young and granny took Barry when he was 10 years old..there’s the key.

I Want to see McCain’s original Birth certificate (with seals and all). I have this funny feeling He is toooooo old to be from this planet (let alone this country). He needs to prove he is not going to sell off this country to those aliens from the Outer Spaces ….

How can we even be sure that Obama even exists until he agrees to let Larry perform a vivisection on web-cam.

Keep fighting , Larry! Only you are asking the questions we all should be!

Comment by HillaryClinton4BarackObama | 2008-06-17 00:11:48

Who is hiding What ??

http://www.fightthesmears.com/

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That document proves nothing—People are looking for the birth certificate that carries the information that would be required for a passport.
I am surprised that Obama is using it as proof himself. I thought it was just his supporters.

Hawaiian birth certificates are stamped on the back with the date processed and signed that it is a legitimate copy.

If Barak Obama was born on US soil he is a natural born US citizen.

Monday, June 09, 2008

National Review on-line

BARACK OBAMA

Obama Could Debunk Some Rumors By Releasing His Birth Certificate.

Having done some Obama-rumor debunking that got praise from Daily Kos (a sign of the apocalypse, no doubt), perhaps the Obama campaign could return the favor and help debunk a bunch of others with a simple step: Could they release a copy of his birth certificate?

Reporters have asked for it and been denied, and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public.

The campaign cited the birth certificate in their “Fact Check” on William Ayers, so presumably, someone in the campaign has access to it.

(Apparently the lack of birth certificate, which would state the time of birth on August 4, is driving the astrologers nuts, as they need his birth time to calculate… whatever it is they calculate.)

There are several (unlikely) rumors circulating regarding Obama’s birth certificate.

Rumor one: Obama was born in Kenya. Rather unlikely, as it would require everyone in his family to lie about this in every interview and discussion with those outside the family since young Obama appeared on the scene. However, if it were true, it would probably raise a major question of “does he qualify as a natural-born citizen”? If Obama were born outside the United States, one could argue that he would not meet the legal definition of natural-born citizen under because U.S. law at the time of his birth required his natural-born parent (his mother) to have resided in the United States for “ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”

Ann Dunham was 18 when Obama was born – so she wouldn’t have met the requirement of five years after the age of 16.

(Interestingly, apparently there isn’t much paperwork on Obama’s parents’ marriage. Obama: From Promise to Power, page. 27: “Obama later confessed that he never searched for the government documents on the marriage, although Madelyn (Obama’s maternal grandmother) insisted they were legally married.” Also note that Obama’s father apparently was not legally divorced from his first wife back in Kenya at the time, a point of contention that ultimately led to their separation.)

Rumor Two: Obama’s middle name is not “Hussein” but “Muhammad.”

As Politifact notes, all available public records going back to 1991 refer to the candidate as “Barack H. Obama.”

It is theoretically possible, if not plausible, that Obama changed his name at some earlier point in his life, as he was sorting out his issues of culture and identity. But this would mean that Obama recognized how emotionally-charged the name “Muhammad” would become in American life long before the 9/11 attacks. And if you’re going to change your middle name from that of the central figure in Islam because you fear controversy, picking the last name of the highest-profile anti-American dictator in the Middle East (Saddam) doesn’t seem like a huge improvement.

Rumor Three: His mother did not want to name him after his father, and his birth certificate says “Barry.” Perhaps the most plausible of the rumors, as Obama was known by that name through much of his childhood and young adulthood. If true, this would spur a new round of “When Barry Became Barack” stories – a minor headache for the campaign, but hardly a major scandal.

If the concern of the Obama campaign is that the certificate includes his Social Security number or some other data that could be useful to identity thieves, that information could easily be blocked out and the rest released. (Although I wonder if identity thieves would find Obama a tougher than usual target, since using the name on purchases would almost inevitably bring closer scrutiny.)

The Obama campaign has distributed the official Certification of Live Birth issued by the Hawaii Department of Health.

He’s a natural born U.S. citizen. End of story.

I don’t think he was born in Kenya, I think he is a USA citizen.

I do think that something in the birth certificate makes him look bad. I think it is 1 or 2 things…his name was not Barack, maybe not Obama on the birth certificate..His mom and dad were never married.

Both of these would debunk his memior, and expose him to furthur investigation about more lies.

Aside from all the crap about Obama being born in Kenya or the USA, based on the date of birth being a friday and registration a monday, another question arises:

Obama’s parents were married and lived in Maui, Obama’s grandparents lived in Honolulu, different islands. Women prefer to have a birth with their regular doctors, which Obama’s mothers was obviously in Maui. So why the Honolulu birth on Obama’s fake certificate unless:

Since it was summer, Obama’s father could have been in Kenya with his other wife at the time of Obama’s birth and his mother was with her parents for support?

Under Hawaiian and US regulations to protect Hawaiian native rights, claims and heritage measures in place at time of Obama’s birth in 1961, a new borns race is stated and determined solely by the attending parents race at the time of birth, if Obama Sr was not present, then the childs race was determined solely by the mothers race.

Therefore on Obama’s original birth certificate it could be that his race was designated as white.

Obviously the stork brought the wrong baby.

my parents were not married, on top of this, my Father was married to onother woman, and She was pregnant at the same time as my mother. My mather still hate me, but why me, it was Her decision.
So, I believe , there is another reaso, why Obama is hiding !!!

Can you guys finally let this stupid, inane nonsense drop? This whole guilt-by-assertion nonsense does nothing to help our country or its political process.

As Jon Stewart once told Tucker Carlson, you’re hurting America.

Oh, wait I forgot — the entire state of Hawaii is in on this cabal that also includes the Obama campaign, the DNC, the media, the pollsters, etc.

Ya big lug, all we want to see is the REAL FULL FORM Obambi birth certificate, not some short form that leaves so much hidden. Is that so much to ask for? What’s the big deal, why does Obambi not make it public, what does he have to hide , lol?

The only people interested in this “downsized” birth certificate are astrologers who have been turning cartwheels to get Obama’s exact birth time. Prior to the recent release of this document, intended to quiet any suspicions, the birth time the Obama camp was giving out was 7:11 (ha! … I guess they wanted to make us believe he was lucky. Well now we have this document, but, it is not the original birth certificate format which has much more info. Instead, it’s an all purpose “prove to them when and where you were born” certificate. No doctor/midwife, no hospital, and no government endorsement (a seal). But, the birth time is different: 7:24 pm. A bit later than 7:11. The astrologers must be drooling. The rest of us are laughing. And some are wondering: was he born in a pineapple field? a hospital? at a luau? His birth certificate is a vacuous as the man himself. We could turn to his books for details but he contradicts what he’s written so often, we do not know what to believe.

Get with the program bud. We want to see the BC not the laser copy that are trolling.

the thing is this should not be acceptable as a birth certificate to certify that he is indeed a natural born citizen as required by our constitution to be our president. otherwise, if this sham is acceptable for this, then we may as well say hello to candidate swarzenegger (sp?) that’s all i am saying, that the powers that be need to say, bo show us your real birth certificate or else you can not even be running for president anyway. we ain’t gonna change the constitution just for the messiah. i mean mccain had to prove his birth status and they had to pass a law to let him run… so bo should have to prove his status as well… like i said not even the dmv would think this document is acceptable to get a license or maybe even just an i.d.

thanks mandelay for the reminder that this was for the psychics actually, but tell the bo folks that, and they will think this document is the holy grail, though it is not a real b.c. i do wonder what the psychics are thinking on this birth time though now i can’t wait to hear their analysis…

Personally, I think his birth certificate is a non-issue. If you are born in the United States you are a citizen of the United States. No one doubts he was born in the United States, so why is he so reluctant to release his birth certificate? That is the question. And no, what he has released is not a birth certificate. Look at your own and you will see that a lot of standard information is missing. Yes, a real birth certificate will list his father’s religion, but we already know his father was a Muslim. So what is the big deal? Why won’t he release the real thing?

Um, I think he’s as much white as he is black, right?

He’s a little bit left and a little bit right, a little bit black and little bit white.

It’s hard to get the big picture when you have such a small screen.