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MEDIA ALERT: Just Say No Deal Asks Obama Supporters To: “Show Some Class”

By JustSayNoDeal on June 18, 2008 at 12:50 PM in Barack Obama, Cultist Thugs, Hillary Clinton, Michigan, Obama's Thugs

MEDIA ALERT

Just Say No Deal Asks Obama Supporters To: “Show Some Class”

Tasteless Behavior Like the Booing of Public Officials Has NO Place
in Our Election Process

- Online and Nationwide— JustSayNoDeal.com, a coalition of voters, individual activists, blogs, PACs and grassroots organizations, reacts to the scene on Monday night in Detroit’s Joe Louis Arena when Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm received a deafening chorus of boos at her mention of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Moments later former Vice President Al Gore experienced similar jeering when he referred to Senator John McCain.

Just Say No Deal Coalition members will not tolerate such offensive and disrespectful conduct from supporters of Senator Obama aimed at any individual— whether they be an elected official or a member of the community at large, and the Just Say No Deal organization will not align itself with any candidate that permits this shameful behavior to be exhibited in any forum.

During this lengthy primary process, Senator Clinton and many of her 18 million supporters have endured pointedly hurtful behavior and vulgar attacks by unruly and inappropriate backers of Senator Obama in public arenas and in new media outlets. The most prevalent arena of these assaults has been on the most recognized sites within the blogosphere.

Concerned citizens continue to break their silence to express their dissatisfaction with party leaders and the short-circuiting of the nominating process. The Just Say No Deal portal offers those voters a plethora of voting strategies, calls-to-action and blogpostings to guide their general election decision-making. In doing so, they reclaim their voices and vow to Just Say No Deal!

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(If you are in the media, you may e-mail SusanUnPC at gmail dot com for contact information.)

Note: See Truthteller’s post, “Hostility, Angriness and Arrogance Is Anything But Unifying” for more detail on the incident.

  • meileen

    That scene in Detroit was horrifying. The look on Governor Granholm’s face as the stadium attendees showed their lack of class said it all – she was shocked to feel the hatred spewed from the Obama supporters. This classless behavior has been prevalent in the blogosphere for the past 6 months, and when you have the owners of blogs and leaders of the party disrespecting the former first couple, you can only surmise that the supporters themselves will follow that lead.

    That ugly smell is the fish stinking from the head.

    • Freedom Fighter

      Oh c’mon, booing is hardly considered hatred. They were just voicing their disappointment in their governor.

      • Darryl

        keep telling yourself the lies, it will only hurt you.

      • http://deleted AnninCa

        This was suppose to be a Unity Rally, you idiot.

        • power coast FL dave

          Your indignation is their victory.

          They never seem to question as to whether or not you understand this precept.

          It’s highly tedious, they’re really dumb.

          • Darryl

            I like that. Never thought of it that way. They enjoy our idnignation, they take it as a sign that they have pushed our buttons and get a thrill from it. hmmm, i will have to ponder that.

            • Mary

              I will enjoy their indignation when Obama loses in November due to their own arrogance.

            • Madam DeFarge

              Right. Be proud and silent.
              Like John Kerry, when he was Swiftboated.

              • Mary

                I’ll be watching John Kerry to see if he rejects and disowns the Swift-Boating of McCain on HuffingtonPost.

                • power coast FL dave

                  I already told you, the job of President is superfluous, controlled by corruption, really.

                  I used to think there was a difference, but after this Obama display, the democrats would have taken us into Iraq, too, it’s the SAME PEOPLE pushing each group.

                  Everyone knows, but the stupid blogger boyz.

                  The rest are in denial, and the rich people pushing can’t do the job, period, we’re not dealing with SMART pushers here.

                • beebop

                  From the San Francisco Chronicle, August 6, 2004:

                  The TV spots became a center of controversy Thursday when McCain, in an interview with the Associated Press, harshly criticized the ad.

                  “It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me,” McCain said, referring to attacks on his military record during the 2000 Republican primary race by supporters of Bush. At the time, Kerry and other senators who served in Vietnam came to McCain’s defense. Kerry and McCain also worked together in the 1990s on resolving the question of American soldiers missing in action in Vietnam, which led to normalized relations between the countries.

                  “I deplore this kind of politics,” McCain told the Associated Press. “I think the ad is dishonest and dishonorable. As it is, none of these individuals served on the boat (Kerry) commanded. Many of his crew have testified to his courage under fire. I think John Kerry served honorably in Vietnam. I think George Bush served honorably in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War.”

                  Let’s see what Kerry is really made of.

              • http://deleted AnninCa

                No, no more silence.

                I love the media release. Time for us to speak out and often. Every single time ANY Hillary supporter is treated poorly, we need to speak out.

                • wac for hillary

                  I totally agree with you.

      • kenoshaMarge

        Oh c’mon yourself. The amount of hatred expressed by Obama supporters for Senator Clinton and her supporters is well documented.

        Booing their Governor for simply mentioning Senator Clinton is just another sign of their total lack of class and enduring hate.

        Civility alone should have dictated silence if nothing else.

        These, as well as many other instances are a very good way to keep the division in the party deep and wide. Glad to see it. Cause anything that works against Obama, Dean, Pelosi, Brazile and Reid is good for the country.

        • Mary

          I guess we know now what the job description of a “community organizer” is, don’t we?

          Whip the people into a frenzy, make them angry and confrontational, so they’ll imagine that YOU are their savior.

          I’ll not vote for this new Democratic Party.

          And I might remind the “young guys” that even with low poll numbers, Richard Nixon won in 1972 because middle America did NOT like the uncivilized tone of the Democratic Party supporters.

          Obama owes Granholm and Gore a personal apology for his supporters’ rudeness.

          • TheViking

            That is actually their Method Operandi…it’s been documented as fact.

            This is how Obama “Community Organised” back in Chicago, by working people into an unruly frenzy…

            I can remember the link to the article, I think it was BlackAgendaPost or something like that.

            Was very interesting to read, and learn about.

            • owen bamfield

              what i find intriguing, being from outside the USA, is how some people commit the same “crime” they cuss others about. I guess it is like what i see in my “underdeveloped” (not my terminology) country: right/wrong is a matter of who is doing the act. Or as someone has put it, “One man’s freedom-fighter is another man’s terrorist.” This writer refers to something he/she read that “was very interesting to read. and learn about,” but can’t remember what exactly it said? He/she “thinks” it was “something like that?” You have facts that Mr. Obama’s community organizing efforts worked people “into an unruly frenzy?” Perhaps you think everybody is gullible, and maybe you are right!

          • Horse with no Name

            The “new” Democratic party is very much like the “old” republican party that we detested.
            All of the political neophyte thugs migrated to our party and are ruining it the same way they ruined their own party.
            I’ll NOT vote for the new Democratic Party either or their rude thug emperor obama.

      • beebop

        Imagine how those people in Detroit will feel when they find out that their “hero” has sold them out:

        ‘The general campaign is on, independent voters up for grabs, and Barack Obama is toning down his populist rhetoric – at least when it comes to free trade.

        In an interview with Fortune to be featured in the magazine’s upcoming issue, the presumptive Democratic nominee suggests he doesn’t want to unilaterally blow up NAFTA after all.

        “Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified,” he conceded, after I reminded him that he had called NAFTA “devastating” and “a big mistake,” despite nonpartisan studies concluding that the trade zone has had a mild, positive effect on the U.S. economy.

        Does that mean his rhetoric was overheated and amplified? “Politicians are always guilty of that, and I don’t exempt myself,” he answered.’

        from the current FORTUNE Magazine

        • Darryl

          Holy cow! Remember the Canada issue. They said he told them that it was all campaign rhetoric, and LOOK! He just said it outloud.

          • beebop

            Do you feel like Gomer Pyle?

            “Suprise, suprise, suprise!” How many positions has the junior Senator from Illinois had on NAFTA?

        • Valerie

          Why can’t the F’ing media see ANY discrepancies in Obama’s rhetoric??? Again we see the unabashed fawning on of that charlitan by the media whores. He basically just ADMITTED that the Canada NAFTA story was true!

          Jeezuzzz!!! We simply cannot have this flacid empty suit be anointed in Denver…. And really, there are many of us who don’t cotton up to McCain either. Both the Repubs and Dems are owned lock, stock and barrel. Neither party has the best interest of the American people in
          their agenda.

        • karen for Clinton

          I know a person who was leaning towards obama because his major issue was nafta.

          there goes ohio too.

      • Patricia

        Freedom fighter how would you feel if people
        started booing Sen. Obama or his wife?
        You need to get a life, if people like you keep
        taking up for the idiots, then we will be no better than some of the third world nations, that kill each other, instead of trying to work things out peacefully.

        • Freedom Fighter

          You guys here at No quarter are doing much more than booing. Compared to what you guys do here on a daily basis, Obama supporters are very civil by comparison.

          • beebop

            This is not a public venue sweetie. You are here at Larry’s pleasure.

            • MikeSD

              And of course there was no booing and other nastiness at the RBC meeting, huh?

          • Horse with no Name

            Are you on crack?
            I have YET to meet ONE civil obamabot.

      • meileen

        Booing is for sporting events, not a political rally designed to provide unity to this fractured party. The fact that you and the other supporters in attendance at the event do not understand this simple concept reflects poorly on your ability to bring this party together. And if you cant do that, you can’t win.

        What occurred in that stadium, and Monday’s announcement of Solis Doyle being tapped to be the aide to the VP THAT WILL NOT BE DECIDED UNTIL THE CONVENTION, wreaks of the blatant cruelty that this group adheres to.

        PUMA

      • NoToDisenfranchisement

        Hey “freedom” fighter –

        Your dismissive attitude is exactly what drives Clinton supporters to McCain.

        You’re overlooking the context – it Obama supporters’ overall disrespect for Clinton, her supporters, their values and their experience – that make us dig our heels in against Obama.

        if you look at the internet bullying by Obama supporters toward Clinton supporters, the bullying and intimidation at caucuses by Obama supporters toward Clinton supporters, the organized and planted questions by Obama supporters re: Monica Lewinsky at Chelsea rallies, the death threats by Obama supporters toward Clinton surrogates, you’ll see why we take offense.

      • Percy11

        Freedom.. OH VEY ….

        It wasn’t against their Governor….it was when the Governor Mentioned Clinton’s name!

        Besides… it wasn’t like the Governor was just speaking to her constiuents…this was about an endorsement.

        obama camp is supposed to be extending a hand of Unity …. and this is unity?

        Of course….top down…this is exactly how your classless leader acts

      • Nellie

        Really….

        There is something called “civil discourse”. Try it and you may find your life is easier.

        NO ONE in any country likes to feel they have been literally invaded by the ancient Huns. And that is precisely how Obama supporters come off.

      • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/OctoberSurprise.html Factcheck2

        I don’t think it shows class that the JustSayNoDeal.com website refers to “Retiring the former first lady’s debt” on its action page. The designation of Sen. Clinton as not being a U.S. senator is standard practice in the Rovian stylebook – a way of diverting voters’ attention from her rank and record. A lot of Obama surrogates address her this way as well, which leads me to wonder…

    • Mary

      Yes. I want nothing to do with these classless, tacky people. Unity, my ass.

      They even boo’d during Al Gore’s speech.

      This is not the Democratic Party I knew.

      • Donald from Hawaii

        Oh, please, the online community isn’t all that much different from any crowd in an arena or stadium.

        Your own “Unity, my ass” comment about “these classless, tacky people” isn’t exactly Miss Manners material — and to be completely frank, I have to admit that I’m often no better myself. So let’s both forgo our respective situational outrage and its resultant political kabuki dance, and let’s for once be honest with ourselves here.

        There will always be some people who at heart are drama queens, and simply live to take public offense. Such persons would, if ever given the opportunity, boo an Easter Egg hunt should one of the toddlers look cross-eyed at them.

        Likewise, there are cowards who undoubtedly revel in the cloak of online anonimity and spew rude, crude, disparaging, hurtful and hateful comments that preclude rational dialogue and are generally unfit for any decent public conversation.

        Perhaps if people learned to better temper their own remarks, rather than say the sorts of things that would shame their own grandmothers were they ever to be within earshot, we might all better understand each other and seek out common ground, instead of magnifying and exacerbating our differences to the point of social dislocation and political disfunction.

        Nuf ced. Aloha.

        • IndayHill

          Tell that to Obama, Michelle & their no-class supporters!

          BECAUSE I LOVE AMERICA, I WILL VOTE HILLARY OR MCCAIN!!

        • TheViking

          So now that we REACT to this crap WE are STILL the bad ones?

          Thanks man but we already know it’s our fault.

          We the risk of sounding like an 8 year old child, “they started it first!”

          :)

    • Perry Logan

      These are the people who thought calling their fellow Democrats racists was a brilliant strategy. They must be incredibly stupid.

    • ginaswo still says no to Uhhbama

      yes unacceptable

      they want unity and boo their leadership..

      they booed Gov Easley at the Jeff Jack dinner in NC
      they booed Sheila Jackson Lee at the TX caucus

      they boo everyone and harass those that arent on “their side” as they have been trained to see it…

      well when we get into the voting booth there is no crowd to harass anybody

      just one vote- one voter

      the boos are memorable and rally show an enormous amount about the supporters and the incredible difference in the people who support Sen Clinton and those who follow Uhhbama. they reveal the way Uhhbama got where he is, Alinsky all the way

      division and inciting hate and anger and resentment of the “other” who they dehumanize..

      no Uhhbama

      never ever pull that lever for the fraud

      Hillary or McCain 08!!!

      • openmind

        How’s that? Clinton supporters booed when she mentioned Obama. So what? As what previously stated. Obama came out and told the crowd they were foolish to act the way they did, whether he believed it or not. It’s politics folks, come on.

    • mmoore

      The former first couple disrespected themselves many times. She attacked Obama worse than I have ever seen any presidential contender attacked in any debate. Many did not like how mean she treated a fellow senator. He however has always been fair to her. She did not follow the rules in Michigan and Florida. She caused this whole painful mess.If she had not shown herself to be a liar, had too many contraversial dealings etc. she might have won this thing.

  • Darryl

    I have said this to my friends from the start of the campaign. Obama and his supporters are not the harbringers of Hope. They are very full of rage and hate. Next time you see Obama give one of those wonderful speeches he gives, look in his eyes. Look close, and ask yourself, Is that hope I see?

    Obama is attracting activist who truley are full of RAGE. This is scary, but not because of Obama himself. It is because, there are enough people in this society that think that all there woes in life are due to something other than their own actions and inactions.

    I am telling you, if he doesn’t get elected, you will see them freak the F out on the streets. They don’t care about themselves, what makes you think they care about you and society.

    • JAY in Los Angeles

      You’ve hit the nail on the head, Darryl.

      O’s supporters are blatantly confusing rage and entitlement for political activism.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      I saw it too, from the start. Sore winners, eh?

    • NoObamislamists

      Hussein Obama NEVER looks the camera in the eye. If you watch him he keeps shifting his eyes from left to right.

      • NY still loves Hillary

        Ever study Neuro Liguistic Programming? That’s a clear sign of lying.

        Daryl – I think they’re going to riot if he loses or wins. Look at what happens after sporting events.

        • power coast FL dave

          AGAIN?

          Nothing new, ever…

    • Nellie

      That rage you see is pure Raw Hatred.

      Both Obama and his wife literally embody it – as does Obama’s Luo family in Kneya.

      I used to think lying, corruption and wierd sex were about as low as you could go. Was I ever surprised to learn that the lowest level is hell is filled with souless people and who are filled with Raw, unmitigated HATE!

    • db

      Darryl,

      You mean if Obama doesn’t get elected blacks will riot?

      I remember during the Simpson trial when people said they knew he was guilty but hoped that the jury would acquit him because they were afraid the blacks would riot.

      Are we now going to be threatened with riots if Obama isn’t elected?

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    This is a very good idea to send this out to the press. Good going!

    We have to keep speaking up. We need to back our Latino representatives who are the ONLY ones in Congress NOT pandering to Obama. See the news today.

    They earn my respect, and they’ll earn my vote in the Fall, too.

  • Delphyne

    The look on Governor Granholm’s face as the stadium attendees showed their lack of class said it all – she was shocked to feel the hatred spewed from the Obama supporters.

    And this is only a fraction of what Hillary has had to deal with for years. Horrifying and disgusting behavior from coarse and ignorant people.

  • chavezravine

    They are full of hate and arrogance, and they damn well are not going to win this election.

  • Tricia

    More disrespect for Woman from Obama

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11168.html

    Two Muslim women at Barack Obama’s rally in Detroit on Monday were barred from sitting behind the podium by campaign volunteers seeking to prevent the women’s headscarves from appearing in photographs or on television with the candidate.

    The campaign has apologized to the women, both Obama supporters who said they felt betrayed by their treatment at the rally.

    “This is of course not the policy of the campaign. It is offensive and counter to Obama’s commitment to bring Americans together and simply not the kind of campaign we run,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton. “We sincerely apologize for the behavior of these volunteers.”

    • alee21

      Typical of the Obama camp. Remember the Michelle rally at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh? The campaign reseated an Asian girl so she would not be seen sitting behind Michelle – they replaced her with a “whitey”.

      The Obama supporters are out-of-control hooligans. If this is what Obama does to his crowd, what will he do to the country if elected? Definitely not hope, unity and a better world. It will be the “either you are for us or you are against us” insular world view that is a true reflection of Obama.

      Under no circumstances can we permit this paperweight, pseudo demi-god to become President.

      • Mary

        Michelle Obama at that rally: “Get me more white people!”

      • Arabella Trefoil

        I thought they moved two Asian American girls so that they would be back of Michellle Obama so that would be visible. ( I guess they want to show that racial diversity.)

        Either way, like everything else in Obama’s campaign it’s staged.

        PUMA

        • ginaswo still says no to Uhhbama

          no they moved them away to replace them with white people

          Asians dont make it into Uhhbamas frame of reference…neither do Latinas….or the other minorities…

          • Freedom Fighter

            Maybe Obama doesn’t have a problem attracting Asian voters, and they just want to show they welcome white voters as well. I don’t see it as an intentional dismissal of Asians.

            • Juju

              Asians will not vote for a leftist. They are moderate. Since McCain is right of center, I predict Asians will vote for him in overwhelming numbers.

            • beebop

              You missed his Jimmy Kimmel comment, I see? No. I guess you expect that they will just flock to the insulter?

            • IndayHill

              Freedom fighter, Asian-Americans in CA had an article in their ethnic paper stating that before the primaries, this Asian group mailed to each presidential candidates letters requesting a pledge of support to Asian-American issues. All signed & the ONLY ONE who did not pledge was Obama!He did not even bother to send any reply.
              How arrogant!!
              I know, because I am an Asian-American & because of his arrogance, I, my family and friends are NOT voting for Obama.
              For my country, I will vote for either Hillary or McCain!

              • Juju

                IndayHill, Regardless of whether Obamarxist signed a pledge, Asians are too sensible to vote for a corrupt politician with thuggish supporters. Hillary supporters (as well as Asian Republicans) will all vote for McCain. Between the Latinos and Asians, I think California is up for grabs. It could go red this year.

      • Juju

        Asian-American woman here. If the Obamabots don’t want Asians in front, I’ll move to the back. Waaaay in the back, as in OUT THE DOOR to McCain’s camp.

        “Unity” – as if!

        • michelle

          Ditto. Another Asian woman for MCCAIN.
          Fuck you and your Messiah.

    • NoToDisenfranchisement

      I’m not so sure this is disrespect for woman as much as it is Obama trying to disassociate himself from the “Muslim” label. For now, he’ll throw Muslim’s under the bus too.

    • Horse with no Name

      You know…they keep apologizing yet this shit goes on a thousand times a day.
      obama knows it…he cultivates the hatred…and he thinks he benefits from the hatred.
      I have seen a new anti-obama email.
      I guarantee that it will convince the fence-sitters in middle America to vote for anyone but him.
      You can say what you want…but yes, I am BITTER!
      I am bitter that a gang of thugs overtook my party and force-fed us a mediocre (at best) candidate who could barely win an election in his own state until he took out the competition…and will DEFINITELY not win the General.
      People see right through the “hope and change” meme you and your ilk spew…and they see politics as usual.
      Because of YOU…our party will lose and they will lose big. And it is everyone who jumped on the happy train’s fault.

  • typical.white.person

    Who told Obama to run? Lieberman, for one

    Sen. Joe Lieberman has angered many Democrats by enthusiastically supporting the presidential bid of Republican Sen. John McCain.

    But it turns out that Lieberman, the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee who now represents Connecticut as an Independent, says he was among those who encouraged Democratic Sen. Barack Obama to run for the White House. That’s the same Obama who Lieberman now says isn’t as prepared as McCain to be commander in chief.

    • Arabella Trefoil

      Big deal. Lieberman changed his mind.

    • ginaswo still says no to Uhhbama

      yes he encouraged him and so did Rove thru Brazile

      so they can set em up and knock em down….

    • karen for Clinton

      Ob supported Lieberman against an anti-war candidate in CT and that pissed off many of his supporters back then.

      If Lieberman gets the VP slot with Mac – ob is going to have a hard time attacking Joe when he was so supportive not long ago.

      ruh ro for ob.

  • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

    I thought I hated republicans when they acted with disrespect toward anyone…but never with the depth of intensity of hatred I feel for all those boing tacky obamtrons …..They disgust me. i will never return to that party.
    And for all you trollies I was a Democrat 2 times longer than most of you have been alive. And a good one too. There loss
    McCain 08
    Never obama

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      Rush L. is gloating. He’s always said that it was really the left-wingers who were vicious and out-of-control.

      He was right.

      BTW, that ad MOVEON.ORG did was lousy. Hope they are planning on doing a lot of those types of ads. LOL*

      • Freedom Fighter

        Gosh, first FOXNews, then Hannity, now Rush Limbaugh? And you ever called yourselves Democrats? Unbelieveable!

        • beebop

          Your fellow “freedom fighers” were here just yesterday talking in glowing terms about Rush and criticism of Larry on Rush’s show …. you guys either choose to cite Rush or leave him out of the discussion, you don’t get to have it both ways.

          • Freedom Fighter

            What did Limbaugh say exactly?

            • karen for Clinton

              Now YOU care what Rush says, ha ha ha.

              He said it is all the fault of the right wing conspiracy – what do you think HE said?

              Speaking of the old right wing conspiracy which isn’t nearly as vile as the new left wing conspiracy… Did you watch the O’Reilly interview with Hillary.

              It was an instant classic historic one that will go down in the history of both parties.

              Her statement that Rush has a crush on her was hysterically funny. Perfect response and it is destined to never be forgotten.

        • http://deleted AnninCa

          True, I’ve always listned to Rush when I’m driving in the car. He’s like reading National Enquirer in the grocery store. *haha

          I voted straight Dem for over 30 years, was a precinct captain, worked for candidates, and worked the polls.

          Now, what have you ever done that has earned you the right to insult me?

          • Freedom Fighter

            I didn’t insult you. I just find it incredible a self proclaimed Democrat would cite Rush Limbaugh to support her argument. Didn’t we award him the “most dangerous man in America” moniker?

            • http://deleted AnninCa

              Rush? Dangerous? Good grief……he’s an entertainer.

      • ginaswo still says no to Uhhbama

        I agree!! it made me feel protective of McCain and it offended the hexl out of me!! condescending and full of lies

        talk about backfiring

    • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

      sorry correction their loss

  • Kathy

    As a 47 year old woman, this campaign was really my first attempt at blogging. I began blogging over at CNN but was quickly turned off by the vicious comments about Hillary made by Obama supporters. They are the ones who made me feel as though I would never vote for Obama. Originally, if Hillary didn’t win the nomination, I would have still voted for the Democratic candidate, but between the Obama bloggers and the media bias, I can nver vote for him.

    • karen for Clinton

      Yep Kathy. I always read the NY Times caucus blog. After the obama trolls decended I was constantly fighting their lies off and it became frustrating and they stole my old screen name and started to pretend to be me. I haven’t been back there in months – they drove me away but so did the pro-ob fluff piece writing staff who also lied and smeared her now and then. They also screen comments and suddenly stopped printing all of mine but let dozens of ob fanatics in. Then I checked the staff out on their profile pages and many of the staff were ob supporters.

      The Times lost credibility for good for me the day after PA’s huge win and they did a hit piece editorial on how Hillary ran an ugly campaign and obama was a saint. Made me sick and more importantly after decades of reading that paper – it made me leave again, as I did when they were gung ho for going into Iraq.

      It took me a long time to go back after that, it will take just as long this time.

  • vinnie

    BO supporters lack class, period. When you start to harass women at caucuses for no other reason other than that they don’t want to vote for your guy, tells me that they are a bunch of punks and thugs. I guess they didn’t get the emails we’ve been getting from Ms. Brazile sayin’ STOP THE HATE. Maybe Donna should be the one schooling them about that.

    • John

      The Obama campaign is learning, to it’s horror, that the rage and hatred and brutish behavior they condoned during the primaries and especially caucuses can’t just be turned off now that it’s time to go into the General Election. The campaign KNOWS it can’t win without Hillary’s supporters, but conveying that to it’s nutcase worshippers is going to be very, very difficult.

      Mainly because the thugs who attacked Hillary supporters weren’t doing it for Obama, they were doing it for themselves. And they enjoyed it. And they don’t want to stop. This is fun for them; this is what made politics an enjoyable distraction for a few months. Unity? Friendliness? Where’s the fun in that?

  • power coast FL dave
    • power coast FL dave
    • Valerie

      Dave: Thank you – it’s nice to take a break from all this ugliness that has unfolded throughout the year. I feel totally grounded now!

  • roseeriter

    I was truly ashamed of ever being a Democratafter seeing that disrespectful display. I don’t think even OJ was ever booed that loudly. The new dems suck, are too stupid and immature and surely do not represent me.

    NOBAMA!

  • Dead Ender1Does Not Bite AnyoneAnymore

    This is as nasty as I have seen in forty years of serious watching and thirty-six years of voting Democratic(almost went for Ford in ’76, BTW).

    The piss fights in blogdom have been going on for 18 months, and seem to have intensified in the last six.

    I haven’t visited a big blog in eighteen months, except to laugh at the fools.

    Helluva a job you’ve done, Barky.

    The whole thing is just pathetic.

    • roseeriter

      Even Michele on the View today said Obama was sweet and pathetic,(the Obama she knows at home) after being asked how she was looking forward to being in the WH.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      My son kept saying, “It’s just trolls.” I sensed not. I think I’m right. First of all, the internet is no longer just for the kids. We’re all on-line, or a lot of us, anyway.

      So what’s going on via internet is what’s going on in the real world.

      The booing is simply a manifestation of the bullying in the caucuses, on the net, the behavior towards Hillary’s volunteers, etc.

      It’s been more than rough. Hillary’s supporters, although we number more than Obama’s, were having to whisper to one another to avoid the aggressive tactics of Obama’s supporters.

      The belligerence has created a huge backlash now.

      • power coast FL dave

        But their heads aren’t where it’s real, they feast on this “virtual reality” gas like a biscuit beetle does a cookie, and they lose touch.

        Cmon, you wouldn’t hire one of them, would you, not smart, or talented enough to even recognize the truths around them.

        • http://deleted AnninCa

          virtual reality…….good one. That’s true.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      It’s pretty funny, when you think about it. Here’s the great unity meeting? *hooting*

      What a PR nightmare!

  • stodghie

    here is an alert for all. sorry to say that talk left has now pretty much jumped on the obama bandwagon. now we had been told whoever was the democratic candidate would be supported. but what constitutes support? blind adoration and no questions? jeralyn says that is not so and i believe that is what she means. but chris i believe though a good person is really strong for obama. now i see how the polls are for obama and no real questions. i confess i was spoiled at talk left where there was open discussion and points made. now i just don’t think it will be that warm a place. we are not supposed to diss michelle. got that?

    the obama supporters are in a swarm and the quality of the discussion though still good on some diaries is not what it was. i look for this to veer more and more into the obama camp as time goes along to the convention and vote. so it is happy trails for me.

    • Mary

      Yes.

      Jeralynn lost me the day she started deleting/banning anyone she thought said things she considered “racist” against the Obamas, but never deleted/banned any of the Obama supporters for calling the Clintons or their supporters RACISTS.

      She, like Taylor Marsh, has jumped on the Obama’s all we got wagon.

      • http://deleted AnninCa

        I was pretty shocked by a remark she made to me on that topic. Then I thought it was odd that she wrote the piece on sexism and how it was too late to discuss it. Yet any discussion of the race-baiting was off-limits?

        It didn’t make sense to me.

      • ginaswo still says no to Uhhbama

        yep

        lemmings ……

    • PKJayne

      stodghie I was surprised at the quick turn around at Talk left. I didn’t post much but enjoyed reading it in the evenings. I don’t get over there much now. *sigh*

    • Tom

      Yes, we’re all out to get you.

      Feel better now?

    • karen for Clinton

      Yep, can’t relate anymore to Taylor or TL. They jumped on the wagon with no wheels, I cannot.

      Both sites were more than fair and accurate and good vibes too. Then Hillary gave her speech and they instantly changed.

      Taylor and TL can pretend they don’t know the truth about it all… but they know as much or more than we do and they must be feeling pretty awful about not exactly being enthused with their decisions to support this less than presidential man.

      I don’t think they can drink the kool-aid this late into the game. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube.

    • Peter

      I really liked the format. Easy to follow visually. If you know of any sites like that, let me know, it’s a little easier to converse.

  • campingoutindenver

    March 2008:

    From March 2008

    “Senator Clinton:

    “Just read where Senator Patrick Leahy is calling on you to drop out of the Presidential race. Believe me.

    I know something about this. Here’s my advice: Don’t listen to people when they tell you not to run anymore. That’s just political bigotry.

    “Listen to your own inner citizen First Amendment voice. This is America. Just like every other citizen, you have a right to run. Whenever you like. For as long as you like.

    “It’s up to you, Hillary. Just tell them — It’s democracy. Get used to it.

    “Yours truly, Ralph Nader”

  • kat in your hat

    Indeed, show some class. I have heard stories of caucus goers getting bullied, superdelegates getting their lives threatened if they don’t endorse Obama. I’ve read about how Hillary supporters have been spit on and cursed out in the streets. I’ve heard about Obama followers driving by Hillary rally lines and throwing things at them.

    The internet…these blogs with Obama followers…they are sooo incredibly malicious and fanatical to Hillary supporters. I bet the majority of Hillary supporters online have been either called a racist or uneducated in some fashion at least a dozen times each.

    I’ve read about Obama followers threatening riots at the convention. I’ve personally been told that there would be a race war if I didn’t back Obama, and I and all the Hillary supporters would be met with guns. Hell, even Obama says that they’d bring guns to the fight.

    The attacks on Hillary have been sooo malicious, it was was almost evil…scary, I know, but the things they would say about her–and with such venom. Bitch this and bitch that.
    ———–

    Listen, Axelrod, Michelle, and Barack et al started this whole mean-spirited campaign. These are mean people, understand? These are people who made attacks on Hilalry’s character, not her policies. These are…”bad” people. Seriously. The Obama camp contaminated their followers and the media, and now the dem party big tops as well. Hell, now even the Dem Party Headquarters in infamously corrupt Chicago.

    They’ve contaminated the dem party and their people.

    “Show Some Class” is going light on them. They behave like they are prone to be violent criminals.

    • http://hillaryorbust.blogspot.com Hillary or Bust

      There’s a reason why I blog anonymously. I am protecting myself.

  • http://www.obama-wire.com Sam
  • Danny

    Is anyone going to comment on how ironic it is for this site to call for class and respect? I love this line: “the Just Say No Deal organization will not align itself with any candidate that permits this shameful behavior to be exhibited in any forum.”

    Clearly, booing the mention of a candidate is disrespectful. But I’ve seen some disrespectful lines on this blog too. Here are some quotes taken from the comments on the post “The Politics of Disrespect.”

    “That’s not a reason to vote for a low class douchebag.”

    “No, it’s not you fucking shithead.”

    “They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!”

    “no one here gives a shit about Obama”

    “Even if you kiss my white ass.”

    and my favorite:

    “Poor Obama, victim of a misunderstanding…. FUCK HIM!”

    I agree– it’s time to show some class.

    • Darryl

      So we do agree–we hate each other. So then you support and give evidence that Hillary supporters are not supporting Obama. Thanks for agreeing with us.

      • karen for Clinton

        There is no doubt that you folks at daily krap started it all and took your talking points directly from the ob camp. You attacked the individual Hillary supporters for months all over the net where ever we posted.

        We ended up forming our own little movement in places like this that are out of your control.

        Tough if you don’t like it – you earned it all.

      • sfhillary

        No, a tiny fraction of Hillary supporters are not supporting Obama. All the polls of the past week make clear that the vast majority of Hillary supporters are now supporting Obama, and that an electoral college blowout is shaping up. You haters are a sideshow, period.

    • beebop

      You can certainly go to other blogs. No one is holding you here against your will.

    • Dawnelle

      THIS IS A PRO HILLARY

      A N T I O B A M A BLOG

      What part of that do you N O T UNDERSTAND???

      jez I mean it’s like trying to explain things to 3 yr olds

  • typical.white.person

    Michelle Obama: ‘Proud of my country without a doubt’

    Yeah, and Michelle’s sh*t stinks:

    • She declined to say if Hillary Rodham Clinton should be her husband’s running-mate. Obama said her husband will choose a vice-presidential partner and “I’m just glad I have nothing to do with it.”

    • IndayHill

      The Clinton-hater was well rehearsed not to say many unfavorable stuff,like ” I’ll rather die, than have her as my husband’s VP!” (drama queen,yuk)

  • Arabella Trefoil

    Obama can’t call back the ugly forces he has unleashed. It will come back to haunt him. His rowdies will be rioting in the streets and chanting “bros before hos” and acting like deranged teenagers. Nothing is more pathetic than a bunch of pastey-faced frat boys trying to act like ganstas.

    He’ll probably ask Hillary to go out and quell the mob for him. He’s such a little coward.

    • beebop

      Wait until they fill up on malt liquor ….

      • sfhillary

        Malt liquor, huh? LOL. One of the chief joys of reading NQ is catching the occasional blatantly racist reference like this. The rioting comment is a bit more subtle but points to the same thing. What’s amusing is listening to you folks characterizing the tens of millions of people who will vote for Obama in November with such a ridiculously wide brush. FYI, he is now winning, easily, over McCain among women, blacks, Latinos, Asians and young people. All the demographic assumptions you anti-Obamites were making about his chances against McCain just a couple weeks ago are now obsolete.

  • http://www.obama-wire.com Sam

    OBAMA-WIRE.COM

    Know Obama
    No Obama

  • Adam

    You mean like the Clinton supporters at the RBC?

  • cofer

    Why is there a ‘freedom Fighter’ here? Communist revolutionaries, Nazis and terrorists have all called themselves Freedom Fighters. Are youa member of Obama’s new Brown Shirts?

    • ginaswo still says no to Uhhbama

      yes perhaps this is a freedom fighter was inspired by the ones in El Salvador who murdered the nuns, they called themslves freedom fighters too

      liberation theology…..

      • researchguy66

        The nuns were murdered by paramilitary groups precisely because the nuns supported campesinos struggling for freedom. The nuns were members of the movement, not the govt paramilitary groups (funded by the US Govt, incidentally).

        You shouldn’t equate a genuine and liberating religious movement with the kind of hate preached by so-called Black Liberation Theologists. They’re not even remotely the same.

  • http://elect2009.wordpress.com/ Cindie

    The booing was totally inappropriate. However from what I’ve read it was mainly ‘college – age’ KIDS!

    • Dawnelle

      and to be honest

      if I was at a Hillary rally (one that was NOT titled a UNITY party) but if I was just at a regular rally I would BOO if she mentioned Obambi too!

      I know Uppity and Strawberry would be sitting right there next to me goin, “EWW BOOOOOO bambi BOOOO! oh hail yes!

      sorry just bein honest ;-)

      PUMA

  • JP49

    I agree that the Obamabots are destructive, imature and vile. I had a bumper sticker on my car for Hillary and someone on the road threw a bottle at my car and yelled hateful things about Hillary. I took the sticker off because I didn’t want to get hurt. It is up to us older more mature voters to stop the destruction of the democratic party and the right of all citizens to voice their opinions and vote for who they want to vote for. The democratic party is cluttered with power hungry liars and manipulators, Pelosi et al and Dean et al. Vote against any democrat who supported Obama. We need to send a clear message that rigging an election and terrorizing voters is unacceptable and a severe price will be paid by those party elite who indulge in that type of behavior. I have been voting democrat for 41 years. No longer. This year I will vote straight republican except for those democrats who stood by Hillary. I hear that Obama is trying to soften his tone and his wife’s tone and looks. Won’t work. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. Too late for apologies on your lies and distortions Obamas. Race baiting bastards. To me it has now become about skin color because of the way the Obamas and their minions have run his campaign. No Obama on any ticket ever.

    • IndayHill

      JP, reading the word “bastard”, it reminds me of Obama’s parents/family.In Kenya, Barak Hussein Obama ,Sr. married Kezia & they had 3 sons;then he came to Hawaii and had Barack Hussein Obama, Jr,, by Stanley Ann Dunham, & Barack ,Sr. went back to Kenya, leaving behind, Ann & Jr.In Kenya, he took another woman & they had two children.
      Question? Did Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. marry Stanley Ann Dunham? I think in Obama, Jr.’s book, “Dreams from My Father”, he said he could not find the marriage certificate.
      So, what does it make Barack Obama, Jr.?
      In 1985, Obama’s first visit to Kenya, he learned that he has 6 half brothers & sisters from 4 different mothers.It must be a happy family reunion.www.freedomsenemies.com;”Dreams from My Father”

  • Arabella Trefoil

    Those college aged kids are pathetic. They show their weakness and cowardice by booing in a crowd and typing troll posts on the internets. They would piss their pants (like their leader) if they encountered any of my blue-collar relatives.

    You don’t get muscles by flying a desk.

    McCain could probably beat Obama in an arm wrestling contest.

    All th booing and braying is a sign of immaturity and feebleness.

    • Adam

      What an excellent idea! We’ll choose our next president with an arm wrestling contest! Hillary better start lifting weights.

  • jdona

    I have a Hillary Clinton sticker on my car too. I’ve heard about other folks that have had their cars vandalized, some that have been forced off the road, cut off by cars with Obama stickers, nearly wrecked one girl. So I ended up putting my stickers on a 1978 Chevy Blazer modified to be a “monster truck”, if anyone ever tries anything because of my Hillary sticker, my husband will kick it in gear and drive right over top of their little import car. Not to mention the two big badass Rottweilers that ride in the back and the “bitter gun-toting” Vietnam Veteran who drives the damn thing with a gun rack that holds a 30-30, a 22 and a 9 mil in the glove compartment. They want to start sh**, so be it!

    PS: Hubby’s just a little dude, 5/6, 127 lbs soaking wet, and barely can see over the steering wheel. I keep teasing him I need to get him a 10 gallon hat to make him look bigger. It’s actually hysterical! But I’ve no fear of the Obamabutts!

    • Adam

      “I just put my Hillary sticker on my monster truck, and I’ll drive over their cars.” Can you remind me just how you are more mature?

  • TimNCGuy

    The Obama supporters did the same thing in NC at the Jefferson / Jackson dinner prior to the primary that was attended by both Obama and Clinton.

    The Governor spoke before either candidate. And, he was LOUDLY booed because he had endorsed Hillary.

    It was tasteless. And Obama said NOTHING about it.

  • Gloria

    Nader/Gonzalez.

  • Anon21

    Well, I guess I’m somewhat puzzled that Just Say No Deal has already ruled out supporting Senator Hillary Clinton if she should somehow manage to wrest the nomination from Obama this year, or run for office in the future:

    [T]he Just Say No Deal organization will not align itself with any candidate that permits this shameful behavior to be exhibited in any forum.

    Hillary Clinton topped a speech today with a crescendo of criticisms against Barack Obama…[t]he crowd of over 2,000 people booed at the mention of Obama.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/11/politics/fromtheroad/entry3927086.shtml

    Perhaps if Senator Clinton had realized that “permit[ting] this shameful behavior” would lose her the crucial endorsement of the influential Just Say No Deal organization in her now-suspended bid for the presidency, she’d have gotten her supporters in line. It’s really too bad that candidates, who control everything that people watching their speeches say and do, allow this kind of thing to go on.

    • power coast FL dave

      You’re a kook, no matter how you dress.

      Obama is corrupt, period, he is a travesty, and his methods are downright seditious.

      And he’s FUCKING stupid.

      He is NOT healthy for this country, LOOK at his trial of horrific corruption, his GROSS uncertainty when faced with REAL decisions, and his STEALING of the nomination, in collusion with Dean, and the rest of that crap moron group.

      This is open defiance of the law, by Washington, by a bunch of effeminate Ivy league rs.

      How does the country survive?

      You can’t even answer the question, your little mind so atrophied.

      Poseur.

      • sfhillary

        You want an answer to your question? How does the country survive? Here’s how: Obama kicks McCain’s butt clear into the next county in November and goes on to govern the country precisely as Hillary Clinton would have governed it: as a smart, responsible liberal-to-centrist Democrat, which is precisely what America needs to get back on our feet as a nation. We need an end to the insane occupation of Iraq, a strong new health care system, smart attention to infrastructure and public education, an energy policy that emphasizes alternative energy and combating global warming, a hawkish stance toward (finally) going after Al Qaeda, strong defense of Roe v. Wade and putting liberals on the Supreme Court intead of more right-wing neo-fascists like we’d get with McCain, and of course a sane tax policy that stops handing hundreds of billions of extra dollars to multi-millionaires and brings the national budget back in balance.

        That is what America needs, that is what Hillary would have given us if she’d won, that is what Obama will give us now. I know talking actual policy is a rare diversion here at NQ, but I thought perhaps you folks would enjoy hearing an Obama supporter actually meet one of your challenges. If any of you would like to rebut, I’m here to talk. If you doubt anything I’ve said, I suggest you read the policy sections of the McCain, Obama and Clinton websites. I have done so and my descriptions of what all three politicians stand for are accurate.

        Thanks.

        • jvp

          The difference between Obama and that of Hillary was CHARACTER. One can trust Hillary. As for Obama, he is as mendacious as he is disingenuous . Obama consistently abandons his own positions to such an extent that he actually arrives at positions that are diametrically opposite to those he originally held. that is, he is not reaching for more nuanced positions. Rather, he is adopting whatever is politically expedient. Further, his TWENTY years of membership in a church driven by racist “theology” until it was politically expedient to “denounce” is troubling at the very least. Moreover, that he even attended is stupendous indicator of how intellectually bankrupt he is. now run along and check out factchecker.org for the “truth” even though they, factcheck.org, is owned by annenberg of which Bill Ayers AND Obama were involved at the higher levels.

          So much for objective inquiry.

    • karen for Clinton

      What the hell are you talking about?

      I remember that rally – it was the FIRST time her supporters booed him after his supporters had booed her all along.

      and Clinton STOPPED them instantly with her hand.

      You make PUMA a pleasure.

      • Anon21

        First (according to you) but not last, or so it would seem:

        http://flapsblog.com/2008/06/07/hillary-clinton-watch-suspends-campaign-amid-obama-boos/

        Again, my only concern is for Senator Clinton. She had really been counting on the support of Just Say No Deal and its…hundreds (dozens?) of members in keeping afloat the campaign she is no longer running, but which some are determined to continue to run for her. With the adoption of Just Say No Deal’s hardline policy against aligning itself with any candidate who permits their supporters to boo a public official, she has lost that support. I suppose she can take some comfort in the fact that it’s unlikely that any other candidate will be able to garner JSND’s support under these conditions either.

  • Ann

    The reason this Hillcrat will never support BO and will vote for McCain (if Hill’s not the nom) despite all of McCain’s many shortcomings is because Obama and his supporters have failed to recognize that bludgeoning Democrats for their votes is disgusting.

    It would crack me up if it wasn’t so sad, days after BO sent out his “time to make nice” memo, his supporters still can’t stop attacking HRC supporters as old worthless b*tches who were never needed or wanted and should just die because they are ugly republican c*nts. Oh yeah, I’m eager to jump onto that unity wagon. Cutting off my nose would be far less painful, even slitting my own throat would give me more integrity and show that I truly value myself.

    The first rule of politicians who know what they are doing — appeal to voters and ask them for their support. The last rule, don’t ever diminish the importance of the people you need and want to support you.

    HRC could ask me herself to support Obama and I would respectfully decline. His loss in November, if he is the nom, is not HRC’s fault but it is his, his supporters and the Democratic Party leadership’s fault. I’ll never forgive them for abandoning the principles and values of being a Democrat simply to claim majorities. The way it looks to me is Rove is still outsmarting Dems. He gets Repubs to run for office as Democrats during Democratic years, so that even with majorities in office real democrats are useless in furthering a Democratic agenda.

  • Michelle

    As a Senator Clinton delegate at a County Convention in Houston, TX (SD13), I was disgusted at the Obama delegates who booed Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (a know Clinton suppporter) so much she had to say, “I can take it—I’m a politician.” It was a few moments before the crowd would allow her to speak. It was truly tasteless and the Obama delegates should be ashamed of themselves.

  • barracknophobia

    Comment by Anon21 | 2008-06-18 15:05:00

    Well, I guess I’m somewhat puzzled that Just Say No Deal has already ruled out supporting Senator Hillary Clinton if she should somehow manage to wrest the nomination from Obama this year, or run for office in the future:

    [T]he Just Say No Deal organization will not align itself with any candidate that permits this shameful behavior to be exhibited in any forum.

    Hillary Clinton topped a speech today with a crescendo of criticisms against Barack Obama…[t]he crowd of over 2,000 people booed at the mention of Obama.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/11/politics/fromtheroad/entry3927086.shtml

    Perhaps if Senator Clinton had realized that “permit[ting] this shameful behavior” would lose her the crucial endorsement of the influential Just Say No Deal organization in her now-suspended bid for the presidency, she’d have gotten her supporters in line. It’s really too bad that candidates, who control everything that people watching their speeches say and do, allow this kind of thing to go on.

    …..

    Nicely done.

    • whatiswrong

      Spot on. It’s this bizarre almost childish whinging and aportioning of blame towards Obama for every slight, every infraction of the media, so called supporters or anyone at all.

      It’s what I find most disturbing as Obama could have been far harsher in this campaign than he was to Hillary but these people make him out to be the devil incarnate and John McCain some kind of Messiah. Very, very skewed thinking.

  • whatiswrong

    Booing is mild to what is written here day after day.

    Lack of self awareness is a dangerous state seen so devastatingly in the current President.

    Last week all anyone here needed was a ‘whiff’ of a video about Michelle Obama and there was bile for days – And I still haven’t seen this video despite the inane protestations of “The republicans are saving it…”

    Many of you talk about democracy but your candidate lost, not by much but not by deceit or do you really think Bill and Hillary would take such a travesty lying down? The numbers were not there and Howard Dean is not so powerful that he makes such formidable people as Bill and Hillary Clinton quake in their boots.

    There has been talk here of Obama installing moles to sabotage Hillary’s campaign. if that were the case (as delusionally paranoid as it is) what credit do you give your candiadte for not background checking their own staff?

    Hillary Clinton would have been a great candidate and a great President but this time she was narrowly beaten by another great candidate and unfortunately for her and yourselves – the times.

    There is a time when the crux of a moment and movement passes people by – Reverend Wright as an example. He and Al Sharpton and others were part of a movement and a time which has now passed. Their rhetoric has become dated and irrelevant. Now I don’t prescribe the same irrelevancy to Hillary but her and Bill’s ‘whatever it takes’ style of politics became a hinderance in a new time and political climate. After eight years of Rove many find politics of that stripe just too much to bear. Many of those people are new voters hence the comment about movements and time.

    Perhaps the time when you all are at the forefront of political dialogue has passed and a new generation has usurped your place. I think you rail at irrelevancy more than the positives or negatives of Obama and while you may disagree the proof will perhaps come in November. Or perhaps not and if not the continued war in Iraq and the dangerous state of the US economy will be your shared legacy and newfound relevance.

    I hope in the end you find it was worth it.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      New style, huh? Obama’s style is as old as the hills. It’s amazing he’s getting by with it. That’s all. LOL*

      Flip-Flop……

  • rjj

    Whereisyourhead, whatiswrong, sweetie?

    • whatiswrong

      And if you look over the comments posted in this blog the character assassination and name calling is the domain of the supposed Hillary supporters. Unity? I don’t see any attempt made by those here or Larry Johnson himself for any unity.

      I always thought democracy was embodied by the losing candidates (and their supporters) grace in defeat, as Hillary has demonstrated, and the understanding of trying again next time.

  • Kevin

    I wish to address several points.

    Responses to “trolls” that are insults, contain swears and/or threats are in response to the vast amount of vile abuse heaped upon supporters of Senator Clinton. When you call a woman a c, b or w, you get it back.

    As to the fact that any questioning of Senator Obama’s experience, postitions, associations, writings is met, more often than not, with accusations of racism.

    The regular appearance, daily, of the same people who support Senator Obama, throwing the same insults, tired arguments, reveal a core tactic of an insurgency, disrupt communications, hamper your enemy in their efforts, and disappear. The anominity of the internet lends itself well to discussion, and also lends itself to organized efforts to disrupt that communication.

    Those of us who have chosen to express their intent to vote for Senator McCain, have mostly cited logical reasons. Most commonly, experience and integrity are cited. Most who will not vote for Senator Obama, even if the unimaginable happens and Senator Clinton is his running mate, cite his inexperience, associations, and poor judgement. The obama trolls will jump on that as evidence of racism. This site grants anominity, and if I choose to not vote for Senator Obama because of his race, I could and in fact would state that. I could probably use racial epithets as readily as the trolls use sexist ones, whether the moderator lets it stay is probable. Freedom of speech is pretty much guaranteed here. After witnessing the vileness of the trolls, I have made attempts to “tweak” them, to varying degrees of success.

    What they don’t get is their efforts to disrupt us, only enbolden us, and strengthens our resolve. The vile language reveals a lack of intellect, and reveals much about Senator Obama and those who choose to support him.

    They can cite polls as much as they want, Dukakis led President Bush, Vice President Gore and Senator Kerry led our current President. They all lost.

    I have the misfortune to have as Governor, Deval Patrick, a close contemporary of Senator Obama. Let me tell you what you get, a self-centered prima donna, more concerned with style (curtains and cadillacs) than substance. He has no inherent leadership ability and his arrogant style has led to a stalemate with an overwhelmingly democratic legislature. His initiatives have been met with fierce resisistance from his party leadership. He flies to NYC to sign a book deal while his initiatives are voted down. Leadership is sometimes about taking your lumps with your troops (something they must not have on the curriculum at Harvard Law School) Extrapolate that to an Obama presidency, and you have a further failure in the domestic agenda, further erosion of America’s status in the world, and a more polarized electorate.

    ab irato

    • rjj

      you forgot the lear jet to go to Springfield or Westfield.

      • Kevin

        my bad
        I thought it was so he could go to DC for foreign aid and the west coast for his Biotech recruiting.

    • http://deleted AnninCa

      plus…8 years of it!

  • Kevin

    I forgot to ask. Did baba wawa ask michelle what kind of tree she would like to be?

  • http://360.yahoo.com/ommotherlifeforce fred heidrick

    if the …OBAMA ……came to my city

    he should expect to be

    BOOED RIGHT OUT OF TOWN!!!!!!!!

  • sakel

    Did I hear the Sweetie’s faithful register their discontent with “boos” and hisses at the mention of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s name by Gov. Jennifer Granholm?

    Could it be because the BARACK BARBARIANS have no other civilized communication tool at their disposal than the guttural sounds of neanderthals registering their instinctual hatred and delight at their primitive form of sexist abuse of both women? Shameful, but to be expected from the Obamyopic troglodytes.

    Come November, the 18 million cracks will shatter the ceiling enough to allow sufficient light for the Obamyopics to see the sheer futility of their misogynist ways.

    And the bitter antidote for that dreadful arrogantly smug affliction of their covertly misogynist Leader [protagonist of YouTube's mega hit: OBAMA GIVES HILLARY THE FINGER']will be delivered by that Invisibile Demographic that they have so diminished and vilified throughout their ignominious campaign of intimidation via able assists from the media frat-boys!

  • Judie MacDonald

    My family(3 voters)lifelong-staunch Democrats WILL NOT VOTE for a president if Hillary isn’t on the ticket as Vice President. Call it stubborn, stupid or anything you want, its the way it is. I voted in the last 2 elections that were stolen and I feel this one has been stolen in the primaries. Everyone begged her to run and then deserted her. I also will not vote for Dick Durbin – my illustrious Senator as he was one of the first to throw her to the wolves. To bad she didn’t learn how to pee standing up. Maybe she would have had a chance.

  • Perry Logan

    We definitely need better trolls around here.

    http://perrylogan.org/images/Crackhead1.jpg

  • Darryl

    You people have no perspective, objectivity or proportionality.

    Do you care to clarify that point, or are you just going to make baseless insults. Which points are we making that have no perspective? No objectivity? No porportionality?

    I say to you, to have an opinion is a perspective, to have a perspective is to be Objective, and certainly we are a “proportion” of the elctorate, since we clearly are real and here.

    You’re statements beg the question.

  • gay gal

    Don’t you realize that you’ve been had. Your Messiah planned the divergence of having his church, mentors, “Marxist” associates come out. That way you couldn’t see that he is the same corporate suit that you rally against. Your messiah is your own Judas.

  • karen for Clinton

    Hey barney, you know what was great?

    Hillary.

  • IndayHill

    I did not watch,knowing the Clinton hater was in the show.Who is she, anyway?

  • Horse with no Name

    What did she do?
    Play Whack-the-Whitey?
    Seems she is really good at that!

  • beebop

    Yep. He’s done another 180 on NAFTA … he’s ALL FOR IT AGAIN …. … just after he got all of the union support against Clinton … hmmmmmmmm … or was that just a convenience?

    The general campaign is on, independent voters up for grabs, and Barack Obama is toning down his populist rhetoric – at least when it comes to free trade.

    In an interview with Fortune to be featured in the magazine’s upcoming issue, the presumptive Democratic nominee suggests he doesn’t want to unilaterally blow up NAFTA after all.

    “Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified,” he conceded, after I reminded him that he had called NAFTA “devastating” and “a big mistake,” despite nonpartisan studies concluding that the trade zone has had a mild, positive effect on the U.S. economy.

    Does that mean his rhetoric was overheated and amplified? “Politicians are always guilty of that, and I don’t exempt myself,” he answered.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    NAFTAGATE was a lot more than “heated rhetoric.”

  • power coast FL dave

    That’s true, ask the FBI.

    You’re a JOKE.

  • karen for Clinton

    Constant charge is right. We’ve been talking about it and watching it happen all along.

    Which is exactly why we left the party.

    Capice?

  • power coast FL dave

    See?

    If we had a functioning press, they’d never get away with this shit, would they?

    Their stupid tricks would be OUTED, and they’d be in JAIL.

    And when it’s a little tougher to get away with this crap, they dont do it, because they don’t want a roomate named “large marge” or “sister bill.”

  • Dawnelle

    my misspelled answer to your Italian question would be misspelled in Korean as well.

    You said, “Capice?” I say, “Adaso.”