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Barack’s New Campaign Slogan (UPDATED: More Change You Can’t Believe)

Out with the old, in with the new. I am referring of course to Barack’s slogan, “Change we can Believe in.” That’s so old hat. Time for a new, spiffy update–Don’t Believe too Sincerely, I Am Going to Change Change? You Can’t Believe Nothing I Say.

Remember Barack’s staunch stand in opposition to NAFTA? Well, as his economic advisor--Austan Goolsbee–informed the Canadians, Barack did not really mean it.

Now, surprise and shock!! Barack has reversed his position on campaign financing. Way back in January 2007, Barack told Larry King:
OBAMA: I’m A Big Believer In Public Financing” And “The Presidential Public Financing System

Works.” KING: “Senator Clinton, by the way, has decided to reject public financing for her campaign. Are you going to do the same?”
OBAMA: “Well, you know, this is something that, obviously, we are going to have to take a careful look at. I’m a big believer in public financing of campaigns. And I think that for a time, the presidential public financing system works.” (CNN’s “Larry King Live,” 1/24/07)

But that’s not all he said. Barack and his team insisted they were not your “normal” politician. He insisted he would have a new way of doing business. But hey, guess what? Turns out Barack is the kind of guy who will tell you anything to get your vote. Just check out these additional quotes:

FEBRUARY 2007: Barack Obama Co-Sponsors Legislation To Keep Current Public Funding System Relevant. “Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) added his name to legislation overhauling the public financing of presidential elections this week, earning him plaudits from watchdog groups. … Democracy 21 President Fred Wertheimer yesterday urged Obama’s presidential rivals to follow his lead and cosponsor this session’s bill from Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.). It would raise significantly the spending cap for candidates accepting public funds during their White House campaigns in an effort to keep the system relevant.” (Elana Schor, “Obama Co-Signs Bill To Publicly Fund Campaigns,” The Hill, 2/16/07)

MARCH 2007: Obama Spokesman Bill Burton Said Barack Obama “Will Aggressively Pursue An Agreement” On Public Financing. BURTON: “If Senator Obama is the nominee, he will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.” (Jim Kuhnhenn, “Federal Regulators Rule Candidates Can Return Donations For General Election,” The Associated Press, 3/1/07)

NOVEMBER 2007: In Response To A Midwest Democracy Network Questionnaire, Barack Obama Said He Would Accept Public Funding In The General Election. Question: “If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?” Obama: “Yes. I have been a long-time advocate for public financing of campaigns combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests.” (Sen. Barack Obama, “Presidential Candidate Questionnaire,” Midwest Democracy Network, www.commoncause.org, 11/27/07)

· Barack Obama Even Referred To His Plan As A “Fundraising Pledge” For His Opponents To Accept. Obama: “In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge.” (Sen. Barack Obama, “Presidential Candidate Questionnaire,” Midwest Democracy Network, www.commoncause.org, 11/27/07)

FEBRUARY 2008: Barack Obama Writes An Op-Ed In USA Today Stating That He Would “Aggressively Pursue” An Agreement With The Republican Nominee Guaranteeing “A Publicly Funded General Election In 2008 With Real Spending Limits.” “In 2007, shortly after I became a candidate for president, I asked the Federal Election Commission to clear any regulatory obstacles to a publicly funded general election in 2008 with real spending limits. The commission did that. But this cannot happen without the agreement of the parties’ eventual nominees. As I have said, I will aggressively pursue such an agreement if I am my party’s nominee. I do not expect that a workable, effective agreement will be reached overnight. The campaign-finance laws are complex, and filled with loopholes that can render meaningless any agreement that is not solidly constructed. … I propose a meaningful agreement in good faith that results in real spen ding limits. The candidates will have to commit to discouraging cheating by their supporters; to refusing fundraising help to outside groups; and to limiting their own parties to legal forms of involvement. And the agreement may have to address the amounts that Senator McCain, the presumptive nominee of his party, will spend for the general election while the Democratic primary contest continues. In l996, an agreement on spending limits was reached by Sen. John Kerry and Gov. William Weld in their Massachusetts Senate contest. They agreed to limits on overall and personal spending and on a mechanism to account for outside spending. The agreement did not accomplish all these candidates hoped, but they believe that it made a substantial difference in controlling outside groups as well as their own spending. We can have such an agreement this year, and it could hold up. I am committed to seeking such an agreement if that commitment is matched by Senator McCain. When the time co mes, we will talk and our commitment will be tested. I will pass that test, and I hope that the Republican nominee passes his.” (Barack Obama, Op-Ed, “Opposing View: Both Sides Must Agree,” USA Today, 2/20/08)

Time to wake up boys and girls. Obama is just another, pathetic (so says his wife) politician eager to bamboozle most Americans. The only thing he believes in with certainty is himself. Otherwise, you’re on your own buddy.

UPDATE: Oh yeah, remember Barack’s claim from December 2007 that, “in all the years he’s known Rezko, I’ve never done any favors for him.” Well, scratch that one too. According to the Chicago Sun Times:

As a state senator, Barack Obama wrote letters to city and state officials supporting his political patron Tony Rezko’s successful bid to get more than $14 million from taxpayers to build apartments for senior citizens.

The deal included $855,000 in development fees for Rezko and his partner, Allison S. Davis, Obama’s former boss, according to records from the project, which was four blocks outside Obama’s state Senate district.

The deal included $855,000 in development fees for Rezko and his partner, Allison S. Davis, Obama’s former boss, according to records from the project, which was four blocks outside Obama’s state Senate district.

For a skinny guy, Barack sure has a lot of bullshit in him.

  • http://www.obama-wire.com Sam
  • http://www.obama-wire.com Sam

    LCJ please add the site to your blog roll.

  • Kevin

    Is it “i was for public financing before i was against it”?

    delivered in a smooth baritone to make the massidiots swoon

    o bam a
    oh wee oh
    a bam a
    oh wee oh

  • http://citizens.johnmccain.com/ Colin

    McCain: Obama broke his word

    Touring flood-ravaged Iowa earler today, McCain aggressively went after Obama’s decision to opt out of the public financing system.

    “This election is about a lot of things but it’s also about trust,” McCain told reporters in Columbus Junction, Iowa. “It’s also about whether you can take people’s word.”

    He said the fact that Obama was “not even willing to keep” a promise this important “should be disturbing to all Americans.”

    “He said he would stick to his agreement. He didn’t.”

    McCain said he would reevaluate whether he’s staying in the system but would likely take the public money.

    “This is a big deal, a big deal,” McCain added. “He has completely reversed himself and gone back, not on his word to me, but the commitment he made to the American people.”

    By Jonathan Martin 02:37 PM
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0608/McCain_Obama_broke_his_word.html

  • Joe Smith

    Why is anybody surprised that this guy is like any other politician after all who else would have the gal to run for POTUS when he has no experience what so ever to be one.

  • selective journalist

    how about a classic:

    “The more things change the more the more they stay the same”.

  • Acadian

    Obama said he’d forgo public funding in the GE if his major opponents did.

    McCain hasn’t. So, looks like no promise broken. Of course, McCain’s all over the map on this matter, so it’s hard to know what funds he’ll take at any given time.

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200802150009

  • http://www.hillaryunited.com Greco

    Great post, Larry! Everyone, please contribute to help Senator Clinton erase her campaign debts.

  • Joe Smith

    This is a eye opener. Oil is becoming a major problem in the world and Obama wants to keep companies from drilling for oil.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kj090Nhl1M&eurl=http://www.liberalrapture.com/

    I’ll bet you he will change his mind on that as well. He will say someting like, I was not aware that blue color workers have a hard time paying for gas.

  • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

    Barry
    Liar Liar Pants on fire..and not the first time…its habitual with you ..avery serious problem.

  • memyself&i

    McCain said today his campaign would accept public financing.

    Keep up with the facts please.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew

    It is really surprising the excuses being made for a bald-faced Obama lie. He’s simply going with more money because it gives him perceived advantage and to hell with being honest and keeping his word. Problem is, he outspent Clinton, often by 4-5x in some states, and still lost in those states spectacularly. Thus, he’ll still lose and is only adding to his growing list of lies, mistatements, and omissions. The only good thing from this is that our public money is not going to be used for his losing campaign!

  • tampagurl

    Michelle was right…He is pathetic!

  • jack, too

    Nice he went to Iowa, at the very least he’s seen as empathetic to the people, something the gangsta white suburban boys forget to convey as a part of selling, and creating, their cardboard candidate, O.

    Obama doesn’t DO empathy, not much stretch for wood, or cellulose.

    But, you know those PR trolls, they can only do what they know…

  • SBwa

    Why hasn’t Obama come to Iowa? Bush visited today, as did McCain.

  • Bella

    I’m not the person I knew five months ago.

    Love,

    Barack

  • jack, too

    He can’t do empathy, of course, because he’s cellulose.

    And his handlers are unfamiliar with the concept, putting them at a disadvantage.

    He will probably go, but our stomachs will turn at the false piety, and they know.

  • jack, too

    He will, then, of course, have to throw himself under the bus.

  • cleffnote

    Must I remind everyone that Obama needs 3 to 4 times the amount of money of his competitors, or he will not be able to buy enough votes. Remember Kentucky? Remember Pennsylvania, etc. etc. and even then he lost.

  • memyself&i

    He knows, he just doesn’t seem to care. He thinks it’s our fault. “We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK”. I guess he means the chickens are coming home to roost.

    Senator McCain’s support for oil drilling off our coast has already made a difference to oil prices. Saudi Arabia is saying it will increase production. China is saying it will increase prices to decrease use in its country.

    Speculators are buying oil 3, 5 years out. If they know that in a few years, supply will increase they’re not going to be gambling on higher prices in the future. That will help decrease the price of oil TODAY.

  • BluDawg

    Lordy, Tim Russert tried to tell us!

    If Obama’s word is no good, Obama has no honor!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELoKGvOwSI4

  • Beatrix

    “That’s not what I said when I said that” is the only change BO believes in.

  • maribelle

    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/6/19/why-did-obama-change-positions-on-iraq.html

    It has been documented in National Review Online by Peter Wehner that Barack Obama, far from always taking the same position on the war in Iraq, has in fact taken different positions at different times—don’t go in, stay in, get out, roughly in order.

    Now comes Belmont Club blogger Richard Fernandez with a Pajamas Media blog post suggesting, though not quite charging, that Obama’s changes in position were prompted by concern for his longtime patron and friend Tony Rezko, who sought a contract to build a $150 million power plant in Iraqi Kurdistan with some help from a couple of Chicago-based Iraqi-Americans.

    more…

  • Mary

    No, Acadian.

    Obama actually signed a written PLEDGE.

    McCain is keeping his word. Obama is not.

  • Beatrix

    With all these people being thrown under the bus, the PI lawyers should be cashing in.

  • fred

    In The Name Of UNITY Video
    Just watched this Unity Video I think the ladies are ready to fall in line

    http://tinyurl.com/4hu86b

  • BluDawg

    Let me get this straight,

    The Michigan and Florida Jumping ahead pledge he signed caused him to take his name off the ballot in Michigan.

    BUT his public financing pledge is not worth the paper it’s written on.

    Hey Obama party,

    all the polishing in the world can’t make a turd shine.

    What will tomorrow bring?

    In November we Remember.

  • pasmalltowngirl

    OBAMA’S PUBLIC FUNDING MUST BE DRYING UP. AND SEEING THAT MILLIONS OF HILLARY’S SUPPORTERS WILL BE DONATING TO JOHN MCCAIN’S CAMPAIGN.

    SO I GUESS THAT IS THE REAL REASON WHY HE NO LONGER WANTS PUBLIC FINANCING.

    DOES HE NOW NEED LOBBYISTS MONEY

    CHANGING THE RULES AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT AND HE’S NOT EVEN PRESIDENT.

    CHANGING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, TO SUIT HIM FOR THE DAY

    WAKE UP AMERICA

    STAND UP

    JUST SAY NO DEAL

    PUMA

    NOOBAMA NOW OR EVER

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    McCain this week-end is in Canada to tell the Americans in Canada openly he is a believer in NAFTA, unlike his opponent who uses campaign trail rhetoric stating one thing and meaning another for votes!

  • pasmalltowngirl

    WHAT APPEARS TO BE A DICTATOR

    WHAT ACTS LIKE A DICTATOR

    MUST BE A DICTATOR

    WAKE UP AMERICA

    STAND UP

    JUST SAY NO DEAL

    PUMA

    NOOBAM NOW OR EVER

  • weltec2

    Yes, why aren’t we surprised. And now Barack has chosen Jason Furman to head his economic policy team. Jason called Wal-Mart a “progressive success story.” Goolsbee, Barack’s chief economic adviser, might offer some balance but Goolsbee is a Friedmanite as well. It’s going to be a bleak next four years, I fear.

  • pasmalltowngirl

    OBAMA MUST HAVE TO MANY ADVISERS

    SINCE ALL OF HIS WORDS AND IDEAS ARE SOMEONE ELSES

    HIS ADVISERS CAN’T EVEN GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND KEEP HIS RHETORIC STRAIGHT

    NOOBAMA NOW OR EVER

  • Bella

    Donna Brazile’s Mama would say he’s cheating.

  • Old White Guy

    This is a pretty cool McCain site. Where do I sign up?

  • DirOfTheObv

    Yeay……WTG Larry!!… divide the truth rightly brother!!! Is there any stance he has not hedged, bobbed, weaved, changed, on?

    Just wait…before it’s over his Iraq stance is going to change (again) also!

    Keep it comin’!

  • BluDawg

    Just Think about all the flip flop lies Obama has submitted for us to believe.

    Dang I think he has out-Bushed GW Bush!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDOvpIa-YSI

  • tampagurl

    I’ll tell you how to sign up. At the top right of your screen there is a little red box with an x in it, just click on it.

  • jc

    Obama said he would work with McCain, which he tried to do. How is that a lie? On the other hand, McCain is currently breaking the law by going over spending limits.

  • DoroB

    Now I understand why John Kerry admired Obama so much: Obama is the King of Flip Flop. Kerry secretly wished he could flip-flop half as well.

  • fred

    I brought the coolest anti Obama gear at that Democrats Against Obama site they have awesome STUFF
    check out there store http://democrats-against-obama.org/

  • tampagurl

    jc, do you have a link for that accusation?

  • Leisa

    Well, I have decided that the “Change” part was code word for “no more Clinton’s”.

    I’m not politics as usual = I am not Clinton.

    Obama’s campaign used hate and fueled hate to garner support for his “movement”. His and Michelle’s character assassination of the Clinton’s is unforgivable, and I will not forget it.

    He and Michelle are not going to be different in the GE, maybe they will be different looking (they may be more polished and posterized), but deep down, they are the same. Leopards do not change their spots.

  • Perry Logan

    Are the Obamites getting tired of defending this guy’s screw-ups?

    http://perrylogan.org/images/LarrySinclair1.jpg

  • DoroB

    where is the link for the gear located on that site? I’ve been looking for anti-obama gear too.

  • beebop

    The facts are too inconvenient for the oblowme story line …

  • beebop

    oblowme hasn’t figured out how to get his cut yet. once he does, look for the changey he hopey you don’t seey …. ;)

  • Democrat

    Actually, it’s McCain who is a major league flip-flopper:

    The past couple of weeks have been especially difficult when it comes to McCain flip-flops.

    * McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.

    * McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.
    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15924.html
    * McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

    * McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)

    Wait, I’m not done with the last two weeks yet….

    * McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.

    * McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

    * He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”

    * McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.

    And these come after these other reversals from April and May:

    * McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

    * McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

    * McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

    * McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

    * McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

    * He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

    * McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.

    * He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.

    * McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.

    And these are the flip-flops I’ve noticed earlier:

    * McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”

    * McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

    * McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.

    * In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.

    * McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.

    * McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.

    * McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.

    * McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.

    * McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

    * McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.

    * McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.

    * McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.

    * In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

    * McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

    * McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.

    * On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.

    * In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.

    * McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”

    * McCain said he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”

    * McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.

    * McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.

    * McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.

    * McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

    * On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.

    * In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

    * McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.

    * McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.

    * McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

    * McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

    * McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

    * McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.

    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15924.html

  • open mind
  • Democrat

    See the link to this material for embedded links establishing each and every McCain flip-flop.

  • PattiB

    I figured that out from jump! Oh, by the way… where are the black people in his newly unveiled 60 second ad? Don’t want white folk remembering that he’s black, now, do we? And keep those Muslims out of camera shot while you’re at it!

    Americans are so gullible. How did this charlatan advance as far as he has????

    ::shaking head::

  • DoroB

    Ooh…The bot “Democrat” is back.

  • Democrat

    This link:http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15924.html

  • Leisa

    Good shot tampagurl!

  • DoroB

    And “Democrat” is talking to herself.

  • open mind

    The reason he is doning this is because he is blowing McCain away in fundraising from individuals as opposed to McCain who is fundraising much more from lobbying groups and large donors. Of course Obama isn’t going to stop using all the money when he’s got a ridiculous edge money-wise on McCain. He’s gonna get swift-boated like crazy any day and he’s gonna need every penny.

  • secularhumanizinevoluter

    What’s yer PROBLEM! He said he was about CHANGE! So he changed his position 180% on everything he said yesterday, that’s not LYING. That’s being flexible, JUST like his morals, or lack of them!

  • Democrat

    Obama DID try to get an agreement. His lawyer discussed that today. The McCain folks weren’t serious about controlling the 527s, so there wasn’t an agreement.

    If Obama HAD agreed to an agreement that didn’t take account of the 527s, he would be a patsy. I’m proud that we have a Democratic nominee who won’t get pushed around by the Republicans.

  • jack, too

    Boy, along with Robert Reich, that team is GOOFY…

    Very ripe for someone to take advantage of, when they view the world so unrealistically.

    Beware.

  • secularhumanizinevoluter

    Ya know if by individuals you mean bundlers yeah, he did pretty good with them BEFORE. Let’s see some numbers now skippy.

  • Democrat

    Obama was in Iowa last week. He was there loading sandbags.

  • DoroB

    Excuses excuses. What happened to a new kind of politics, hope and change and all that? He needs all the money he can get? That sounds like old politics to me.

  • beebop

    So, basically, screw a position he announced to the voters now that he’s the candidate, right? You have no problem with it? Not that his supporters’ morals are any better than oblowme’s ….

  • Democrat

    His pledge was to pursue an agreement. He DID THAT, but the McCain folks proposed something that would have left Obama highly disadvantaged. He did not pledge to accept a crappy deal, so he turned it down.

    It’s like signing an intent to purchase a house and then you find problems with the foundation but the seller won’t negotiate. You don’t buy the house with the crappy foundation anyway at the very same price.

  • open mind

    secularhumanizinevoluter –

    from The Hill

    Obama could raise $100 million in June, fundraisers say
    By Alexander Bolton
    Posted: 06/09/08 06:06 PM [ET]

    Leading Democratic fundraisers predict that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) will raise hundreds of millions of dollars over the next few months if he opts out of public financing and begins raising money for the general election.
    Specifically, they say Obama could raise $100 million in June and could attract 2.5 million to 3 million new donors to his campaign.

    These fundraisers say Obama could increase his fundraising dramatically because of three factors: a boost of enthusiasm among Obama donors following his clinching of the nomination; the migration of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) donors to his camp; and the mobilization of big Democratic donors who have given little so far this year.

  • ulahane

    Bullsh*t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no legal way for a candidate to control the 527s. Let me repeat that, there is no legal way for a candidate to control the 527s. Obama is a lawyer and knows this. It’s just a very feeble lie to fool his gullible supporters.

  • Democrat

    Meanwhile, McCain flip-flopped on drilling for oil off the coast.

    Hey, where are the angry posts complaining that you just can’t trust the guy???

  • beebop

    I think they will have a LOT more of them between now and NOVEMBER ….

  • Leisa

    Or itself…

  • Leisa

    Do you really know where Obama is getting his $$?

  • beebop

    “link?” They don’t need no stinking “link,” they just slam and spam ….

  • Democrat

    He was there LAST WEEK.

    See a picture right here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080614/ap_on_el_pr/obama_economy

  • DoroB

    It’s kind of funny to see how the bots are bending over backward trying to explain and excuse Obama’s flip-flops.

  • Democrat

    You clearly understand nothing about public financing. It has nothing to do with Clinton supporters. The money comes from taxpayers, all of us.

  • tampagurl

    Hey Democrat, You love us don’t you. I know we’re a lot of fun over here, I love this site too. As for John McCain you really should take your grievances to his site they will gladly defend him over there. This is anti Obama and anti DNC site. I will say that he was against drilling when gas was a dollar a gallon now it is killing our economy and for some of us the choice is food on the table or gas to go to work. 76% of the people want to drill here. He is listening to us unlike Obama. I like that in a politician;Don’t you?

  • Leisa

    Yeah, for the photo op…

  • ulahane

    Because about the time gas hit $3.50, I started rethinking my own opposition to the drilling. I’m currently undecided.

  • Democrat

    A dictator doesn’t rely on millions of voluntary contributions…not anyone I’ve ever heard of.

  • Join Me

    actually, he said if he could get an agreement in place, which means specifically he didn’t like the current set up, as Larry even points out by accident.

  • Democrat
  • Democrat

    Sorry I scared you. I like to provide what’s commonly known as reality.

    BTW, any of those McCain flip flops bother you?

  • Democrat

    It’s a completely consistent position.

    He said he would negotiate. McCain’s lawyer wouldn’t negotiate in good faith. You gotta walk away from a crappy deal; that’s what Obama did.

  • DoroB

    McCain’s flip flops do not make Obama’s flip flops go away.

  • Democrat

    Yes, because it all has to go through the reporting mechanisms, so anyone can look it up on fec.gov or opensecrets.org.

  • Lou

    He cheated. Plain and simple. He will continue to cheat. That is what he is about. The people who assisted him to get this far are cheaters too. They all are in in for themselves and do not care about the people.

  • beebop

    Do you have an excuse for the NAFTA change sweetie? Do you have an explanation for the three changes on the Iraq war?

    Your reasoning is strictly oblowme logic. When did you surrender your own thinking? Good for you. You obviously aren’t using your brain.

    Let me ask you this? When we all quit donating to the DNC, where is the money going to come for all of the other candidates running? Oblowme? RIGHT! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • roundhouse

    HAHAHA what’s up kids……three weeks on & your still licking your wounds? All three dozen of you? Barack said this, his supporters did that….we won’t vote for him because they were mean & they have to say pretty please…… HAHAHA LOL ….By the way, how’s Harriet? She still bitter?

  • beebop

    The more things change, the more it has to be oblowme.

  • ulahane

    Old news and not on sound ground legally. Telling a bank that you plan to to accept public financing, if he did that, is not the same as accepting the funds from the FEC. And from your linked article “the McCain campaign and its bankers have denied that claim.

  • Democrat

    I think Obama’s decision is great:

    1. It shows he can’t get rolled in negotiations. His pledge was to negotiate. His lawyers did and they didn’t get a good agreement, so they walked away. This bodes well for Obama’s executive skills.

    2. He has shown what true public financing looks like – millions of small donors instead of a check from the taxpayers.

  • DoroB

    By “negotiate” you meant completely change his position? Who would agree to that?
    Seriously your talking points are kind of pathetic.

  • beebop

    18 cents didn’t mean anything to oblowme either. Oh, and all of the opposition to the wind fall profit taxes? what the hell happened to the democrats?

  • Democrat

    And YOU prefer to vote for McCain who changed his position on literally dozens of policy issues, including things like TORTURE.

  • Dakinikat

    No, the change is about …

    Yes I will change my views, my church, my resume, my background, my family tree, my positions, and everything about me EVERY time it’s expedient to do so …

    obama’s change is about obama being a chameleon!

    He changes his view when the audience changes
    He changes his policies when the listener changes
    He changes his jobs when he feels like it

    change change change

  • DoroB

    Oh my gosh that Kool Aid is really strong. Basically, Obama can be a good president because he does not keep his word.
    Yes, millions of donors, some of whom are employees of lobbying firms, spouses of employees, pets, dead people. That’s the public that Obama and his campaign wants.

  • Lou

    Here’s a fact. Obama signed a pledged with McCain. This shows you he can’t be trusted. I feel he broke his written pledge because it would reveal he is getting some large dollars from unsavory donators.

    What a scam artist.
    We will not forget.

  • Perry Logan

    Flip-flops are nothing, Democrat. I laugh at your list of flip-flops.

    We’re talking about a crooked Chicago pol who stole the nomination, alienated half his party, and has no business running for President. Also, the Worst Candidate Ever™.

    The last thing we need is a crooked Democrat in the White House. Better to let McCain get in there and make the Republicans look like asses.

    http://perrylogan.org/images/LarrySinclair1.jpg

  • beebop

    The bitter people are there …

  • Acadian

    OCS drilling won’t have an appreciable effect on prices for over 20 years – that’s from the Energy Information Administration. In addition, it’s not like OCS leases are full – most of them are not being developed, for reasons such as the full booking of drilling ships for the next 5 years.

    There are 68 MILLION acres of off-shore leases that are being sat upon by oil companies and not developed.

  • Democrat

    McCain has major legal problems with his campaign finance decisions

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/21/AR2008022103141_pf.html

    McCain’s attempts to build up his campaign coffers before a general election contest appeared to be threatened by the stern warning yesterday from Federal Election Commission Chairman David M. Mason, a Republican. Mason notified McCain that the commission had not granted his Feb. 6 request to withdraw from the presidential public financing system.

    The implications of that could be dramatic. Last year, when McCain’s campaign was starved for cash, he applied to join the financing system to gain access to millions of dollars in federal matching money. He was also permitted to use his FEC certification to bypass the time-consuming process of gathering signatures to get his name on the ballot in several states, including Ohio.

    By signing up for matching money, McCain agreed to adhere to strict state-by-state spending limits and an overall limit on spending of $54 million for the primary season, which lasts until the party’s nominating convention in September. The general election has a separate public financing arrangement.

    But after McCain won a series of early contests and the campaign found its financial footing, his lawyer wrote to the FEC requesting to back out of the program — which is permitted for candidates who have not yet received any federal money and who have not used the promise of federal funding as collateral for borrowing money.

    Mason’s letter raises two issues as the basis for his position. One is that the six-member commission lacks a quorum, with four vacancies because of a Senate deadlock over President Bush’s nominees for the seats. Mason said the FEC would need to vote on McCain’s request to leave the system, which is not possible without a quorum. Until that can happen, the candidate will have to remain within the system, he said.

    The second issue is more complicated. It involves a $1 million loan McCain obtained from a Bethesda bank in January. The bank was worried about his ability to repay the loan if he exited the federal financing program and started to lose in the primary race. McCain promised the bank that, if that happened, he would reapply for matching money and offer those as collateral for the loan. While McCain’s aides have argued that the campaign was careful to make sure that they technically complied with the rules, Mason indicated that the question needs further FEC review.

    If the FEC refuses McCain’s request to leave the system, his campaign could be bound by a potentially debilitating spending limit until he formally accepts his party’s nomination. His campaign has already spent $49 million, federal reports show. Knowingly violating the spending limit is a criminal offense that could put McCain at risk of stiff fines and up to five years in prison.

  • Lou

    McCain is looking better and better every day. At least he’s a man of his word. He’s going to make a fiiiine president.

  • DoroB

    Hey “Democrat”,

    How do you feel about the update on Rezko? I’m interested in seeing how flexible your excuses are.

  • tampagurl

    Gee Democrat, if your going to stick your neck out you should read the whole article you link to. I’m afraid your losing your credibility like your awesome leader Obama.

    The lawsuit is a follow-up to a complaint the DNC filed with the FEC in February, which was not acted upon, since four FEC nominees were waiting Senate confirmation and the body lacked a quorum.

    *Update: Later on Tuesday, RNC chief counsel Sean Cairncross called the lawsuit “meritless,” the AP reports. Cairncross said that McCain was entitled to withdraw from the public finance system because he didn’t take public funds during the primary season.

  • ulahane

    Actually, it is very likely to almost immediately lower prices by driving down speculation in the oil market.

  • jack, too

    But again, he’s still not seen as empathetic, he’s stiff, wooden.

    So nice, setting up a tragedy as a photo op for gassy politicians.

    It’s reads like something from the worst script writer ever, the dullest, worst wannabes.

    Which it is.
    And it shows, ya bot.

  • Democrat

    HE DID KEEP HIS WORD - He didn’t pledge to be in the public finance system, but to pursue an agreement with McCain on it.

    His lawyers did pursue an agreement. But the McCain folks refused to curb spending by the RNC and the 527s. That was a bad deal so Obama would not agree to it.

    No one who tries to make a contract is bound to actually execute a contract. If the terms of the contract are so bad that one party doesn’t want to sign it, there is no contract.

  • Democrat

    What update? I have no idea what you’re talking about.

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    That looked real convincing the way he was dressed

  • Lou

    Doesn’t matter now. 18 million people are voting for McCain no matter what. You get to vote for Obama and not care where he stands.
    We’ll vote McCain and not care about his stance. How’s that? Go McCain!

  • Five Thirty

    That’s sweet – and pathetic.

  • beebop

    You are oblowme doing your scare crow impersonations?

    At a breakfast for constituents in 2006, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, said public financing saves taxpayers money in the long run.

    “What folks don’t understand is you’re paying for the lack of public financing,” Obama said. “Because all those, you know, pork projects you read about and all the shenanigans that take place around here, you would save significantly as a taxpayer by paying what would probably end up being five dollars per person per year to finance every federal campaign.”

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/abc-news-video.html

  • jack, too

    It’s a sham, let’s be honest.

    Until the corruption is eradicated, all the speculation means nothing.

  • Democrat

    By the way, where’s that tape?

    And how is Larry Sinclair doing in jail? When will he face those fraud charges? And has he found a lawyer who isn’t disbarred and who wears pants?

  • Lou

    could? but he hasn’t..

  • Acadian

    Well, assuming that market speculators are idiots, I suppose. But in reality, where OCS drilling has no effective moratorium and is being limited by oil companies’ lack of resources and motivation, and the best that the drilling could supply is (perhaps) a 7% drop in some costs, the price of oil at the wellhead will hardly be affected at all – and speculators already know that.

  • Democrat

    No, he didn’t change his position. He always wanted curbs on the 527s and a deal on the spending of the RNC and the DNC. McCain’s lawyers wouldn’t budge on either point.

    I’m glad we don’t have a pushover as the presumptive nominee.

  • ulahane

    Yes he did lie!!!!

    He knows that there is nothing a candidate legally can do to control 527s. It’s a lie for his more naive followers to eat up.

  • Acadian

    I forgot to mention that market speculators also know that oil from any new OCS drilling is over 20 years out – so it’s not on their radar.

    If McCain is telling anyone that opening up new leases is going to lower pump prices, he’s dreaming in Technicolor. Oil companies can’t even develop the leases they have now.

  • beebop

    That is an indication of their relevancy. Do they not get it? WE AREN’T EVER EVER VOTING FOR HIM AND today’s bullshite after the NAFTA back track certainly doesn’t help … WTF … he’s an IDIOT!!!

  • Democrat

    His position was to pursue an agreement. He did.

    He didn’t take the position that he had to take a crappy deal, which is what the McCain folks offered.

  • fred

    heres the
    link to democrats against obama store neat stuff
    http://www.cafepress.com/no_votes_obama

  • Lou

    It still amazes me as I go through my day, how they kicked a qualified and popular candidate to the curb in favor of an inexperienced, insulting and pathetic dweeb. I guess Hillary should have cheated too in order to even out the playing field.

  • Democrat

    He NEVER signed a pledged deal with McCain. That’s simply false.

  • tampagurl

    Democrat, Now there you go again.

  • DoroB

    There there, calm down…Overstretching may fray some nerves.
    “In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge.”

    It looks like the “presidential candidates that…would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election” include Barack Obama.

  • ulahane

    Wrong again. Most of the current leases were made on speculation and contain little, if any, usable reserves. And the twenty years estimate is inaccurate.

  • DoroB

    the one in this article…

  • ulahane

    Moron. There is nothing a candidate can legally do to curb 527s! Obama lied.

  • tampagurl

    If Obama’s lips are moving he’s liying!!!!!!

  • ulahane

    Quit repeating Obama’s lie. He LIED!!!!

  • fred

    The FULL video of Larry Sinclair Press Conference
    http://www.larrysinclair.org/press.html
    Watch it NOW before its GONE

  • typical.white.person
  • MyBrainHurts

    This, along with Larry’s tape of Michelle Obama strangling puppies, is gonna finally make those superdelegates come to their senses! Just a couple more days of gnashing our teeth and stomping out feet everyone, keep it up!!!!!!

  • DoroB

    Your brain hurts? The Kool-Aid probably doesn’t help. Try water.

  • jc

    You should read what you pasted. The FEC chair said he could not pull out, but they cannot act because they do not have a quorum. I thought the people hear were Democrats, but you sore a lot like apologists for McCain.

  • jc

    Why is Obama leading in the polls. Most of the people are are really Republicans, like Larry Johnson, and probably voted for Bush at least once. Real Democrats are getting behind the nominee.

  • Acadian

    Do you have a cite?

    This PDF (3.7 MB) shows many, many green squares, which are current leases that are not being developed or explored. The red-outlined squares are leases auctioned in March. Those alone will take YEARS to assess, and I find it highly unlikely that all the green squares have been assessed.

  • DoroB

    Well if “real Democrats” include the Obots, I’ll pass.

  • LilRod

    But you see..it is sooooooo easy to fool/bamboozle his followers…

    So he feels he is free to lie-lie-lie-lie
    because they will believe anything he says

    The are all members of the DUH gang

  • jc

    He could call them out. Instead he is egging them on. He does have some control over party spending. The McCain people had not interest in negotiating.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0608/Obama_camp_tries_to_get_in_on_McCain_finance_conference_call.html

  • DoroB

    Obama would never let regular people push him over.

    Oh no, he’d gladly let himself be handled by Exelon and the oil companies that benefitted from the Bush-Cheney energy bill though.

    But that’s not a push-over. That’s just regular wine-and-dine for pork business.

  • jc

    Cheated? By winning the most votes and delegates? By playing by the rules? This site is like Bizarro World. You get everything backwards.

  • DoroB

    The most votes? Hillary won the most votes. I didn’t know Kool-Aid also affects honesty.

  • ulahane

    Um, your map is offshore drilling, which they want to expand. It neither supports nor refutes your premise.

  • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    most of which are coming from the middle east.

  • Acadian

    This is what the US government thinks about it and where I got some of my information.

  • DoroB

    Uh…Lots of people were excited about Fidel Castro and Hitler.

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    How frustrating is the fact you know everyone (with a brain that could google) knew this MONTHS ago and they sat on it until Obama was the Presumptive Nom?
    The entire MSM have lost any credibility they had left after watching this election season

  • Linda

    oh yes! Excellent work.

  • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    MUHAHA

    Another flip flop from the master thief Bacrack Oblowme.

    In November watch them contest the votes in close states they lose to try and steal the general election too.

    Oh my god i am just tickled pink at how much fun its going to be watching Barry the Obullshit artist go up in flames for the next 5 months.

    He just keeps adding fuel to his own funeral pyer.

    MUHAHA

  • wcwf50

    No, the DNC is claiming he broke them. An Obama-style, “NEW” DNC dirty trick. His decision to forego public financing after all his rhetoric about how great it is makes that potential lawsuit a joke.

    So, you are stating allegation as a fact. I’m sure if McCain “exceeding limits” was a proven fact, Chrissy Matthews and Olbermann would be singing it from the roof tops every day.

    Obama figures maybe he can get McCain taken off the ballot and run by himself in November.

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    Gosh a cynic might think he just signed the Mi/Fl pledge and took his name of the ballot was to get people in Iowa to vote for him. and the finance pledge to get Dems to vote for him, but AFTER he became the presumed Nominee they don’t matter.

  • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    Ofcourse his strategy is if he outspends McCain 10 to 1 he might have a shot. LOL

    Money cant by you love

    and money cant by you character and integrity either Senetor Slimebama.

  • Acadian

    OCS is the Offshore Continental Shelf. That means that referencing offshore drilling is immediately and absolutely relevant to my premise, when I am talking about OCS leases.

    It’s not actually that relevant what the oil companies or the government WANT to do in this case. Expanding offshore drilling or even new exploration is not going to happen fast anytime soon, so it doesn’t really matter if new leases are auctioned now or in 4 years.

  • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    He would have voted present but he couldn’t find the button.

  • jc

    The Republican chair of the FEC said as much. Is this a dirty trick too. He is probably part of the cabal trying to put Obama into office.

  • katmandu

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11212.html

    Politico does a job on Obama, detailing every step in the waffle, U-turn process.

  • stewie

    “the last couple of weeks”

    you half to be kidding me with this drivel,these so called flip flops date back to 1997 and beyond. This kind of crap may go over big with the Kos dopes, here it just wastes bandwith.

  • ulahane

    You do your homework! This is a good argument. However, it doesn’t take into account the recent increase in oil speculation which account for much of the current oil prices.

  • Jack

    “Bullsh*t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    I bet you feel that way about the “no money from registered lobbyists” ruse. Registered lobbyists are agents, lawyers typically. They aren’t the “Lobbies”. Obama didn’t say he wouldn’t take money from the rich people who hire the lobbyists. In fact, he’s raking it in. But he tries to impress that he is not influenced by lobbies by saying he’s not taking money from lobbyists.’

    Quite clever indeed.

  • stewie

    D

  • jc

    Only if you count MI, which Clinton said did not count. It is clear that if Michigan and Florida would have had election where both candidates were on the ballot and both campaigned, Obama would have had the most votes. It is really very simple.

  • jc

    This backs up that he has been pretty consistent.

  • http://www.myspace.com/helenrose44 Pittsburgh4Hillary08

    Wow he is such a flip floper. I bet he ends up in Prison before this year is over. Now that is a change we can live with.

  • Acadian

    I don’t think speculation can be controlled for in such a study, so they wouldn’t bother.

    But consider that neither oil speculators nor oil companies have any vested interest whatsoever in acting to reduce oil prices.

  • DoroB

    The MI votes were certified. I thought you believe in the rules. Or do you only believe in flip-flopping like your master Obama?
    It is clear how? That looks like a shady, sloppy, crystal ball claim to me.
    Obama did campaign in Florida. Remember those TV ads that you bots keep trying to excuse him for? What do you call those?
    And what do you call the campaign to turn out voters for “uncommitted”?

  • wcwf50

    What he said is they cannot make a ruling because of the 4 empty seats on the commission,which is perfectly correct. And the dems can make sure those empty FEC spots don’t get filled til at least after the conventions-virtually hamstringing McCain indefinitely. No dirty tricks here, my bad.

  • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    lol…spin spin spinderella

    The obama Trolls are in a panic typing Adolf Acelfrauds talking points with wild abandon.

    This reminds me of the movie Titanic.

    ICEBERG AHEAD!!!

    haha…the sinking is going to be spectacular!!!

    NO NO NO THE PRESUMPTIVE SELECTIDENT LIED ABOUT ACCEPTING PUBLIC FINANCING!!!

    AHAHAHA

  • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    wow.

    I bet you think there is a santa claus too.

  • frozenc
  • tampagurl

    Why don’t you point out where in the article it says the FEC said he could not pull out. I will paste the whole article and you point it out for me OK jc.

    The Democratic National Committee announced that it intends to file a lawsuit in U.S. District Court to try to compel the Federal Election Commission to examine whether John McCain broke election laws when his campaign rejected public fundraising, the Associated Press reports.

    When McCain turned down a taxpayer-funded $5.8 million, his campaign was able to skirt spending limits that would have been in place until the Republican Party convention.

    The issue in question is a $4 million line of credit obtained by the McCain campaign last year, which the DNC has argued was a violation of federal regulations. The McCain campaign and its bankers have denied that claim.

    The lawsuit is a follow-up to a complaint the DNC filed with the FEC in February, which was not acted upon, since four FEC nominees were waiting Senate confirmation and the body lacked a quorum.

    *Update: Later on Tuesday, RNC chief counsel Sean Cairncross called the lawsuit “meritless,” the AP reports. Cairncross said that McCain was entitled to withdraw from the public finance system because he didn’t take public funds during the primary season.

  • Bonita

    And the fools buy it hook line and sinker because they don’t know how to think for themselves.

  • frozenc

    Not by you anyway. Did you go to Iowa?

  • frozenc

    McCain opted out months ago without the approval of the board. Pay attention people.

  • jc

    No, that is not what he said. He said that once you opt in you can not opt out without permission. The reason that those commissioners have not been approved has more to do with the Republicans insisting on Hans von Spakovsk as a candidate. The latest I heard was that if they withdrew his name there would be no problems.

  • Noblowme

    More naive like you, Democrat.

  • tampagurl

    wcwf50, you can’t reason with these people, they have a habit of trying to turn apples into oranges.

  • Bonita

    Haven’t made enough to buy that tricycle yet?

  • frozenc

    Hmmm…he seems to be getting cuts from many Americans at an average of $90 a pop. Staying away from large influential donors and PACs. Seems to be keeping his nose clean, actually. Please pay attention.

  • Noblowme

    So?

    I think most people have no clue why you are here.

  • Noblowme

    The “tape” comes in October.

  • Bonita

    JC: Boo! I want to blog on some pro-BO sites, you know any?

  • frozenc

    It seems to me the people who regularly come to this blog are bitter about Obama being the presumptive nominee. Am I incorrect?

  • tampagurl

    Me too, DoroB

  • Noblowme

    Not so much cheated as had people who organized better.

  • Noblowme

    Good post!

  • jc

    They also gave Obama delegates based on exit polls. We know from the exit polls that many uncommitted voters were for Obama. Therefore, here lead is gone. I don’t see how that is sloppy. The idea that somehow those election reflected real preferences is silly. Obama had the most support by a very small amount. You can concoct all the conspiracy theories you want, but he is going to be the nominee.

  • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    omg no…not the puffingtontoilet.com!!

    Now thats a paragon of fine upstanding journalism.

    I wouldn’t whipe my ass with a print out from that shithole. I would be afraid to catch something deadly.

    Do you really think posting anything from that place is a way to be taken seriously?

  • http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    In a name GEORGE SOROS … that’s how.

    The “puppet master” and the “Invasion of the body snatchers” Starring BHO Directed and Produced by GEORGE SOROS

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    O’boy’s idea of HOPE and CHANGE is that he HOPES no one will notice as he keeps CHANGING his positions on the issues

  • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    OMFG LOL

    http://www.236.com/news/2008/06/18/meet_michelle_obama_my_black_f_1_7205.php

    YOU HAVE TO SEE THESE MAGAZINE MOCKUP COVERS!!!!

    ROFL
    ROFL
    ROFL

    OMG too damn funny!

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    O’boy flip flops more than pancakes at a church fund raiser.

    He backflips more than the Chinese Olympic team.

    Can’t wait to see what the Repub’s do with him.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    He is a Harvard lawyer after all.

  • street_parade

    Be they left, like MoveOn.org or be they right, like Swiftboat Veterans for Truth, 527′s are independent groups. They cannot be controlled by a candidate’s campaign. If that’s the talking point that the mothership is transmitting they are lying to you…again.

  • tampagurl

    They only believe in the rules when they work in their favor.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    You are gullible….

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Ahhhhhh…..the vetting Bill Clinton said needed to happen. Obviously, the right writers are better at facts than the lefties.

    http://www.thenextright.com/patrick-ruffini/obamas-pacs-and-lobbyists-canard

    Want the truth about Obama and his No Pacs/Lobbyist money?

    Here is is……in dollars and sense.

  • street_parade

    BO’s ‘grassroots contributors’ are people who ponied up $5-10 to see him at one of his revival shows last year. That’s how he got all of those ‘contributors’. The real money, as with any other politician, comes from those who want access.

    He’s just like everybody else, if you are supporting him, fine. But at least do it with your eyes wide open.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Good point. That was what it was about. And there was legitimate fear of dynasties, Hillary is just a door to Bill, etc., so it was OK to me to hit hard on that one.

    I did find the race card to be repugnant and very unfair, but Kennedy and the insider boyz went along with the scam.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    *ha! Such a crock.

  • jc

    I find it funny that Obama haters on this site think it is Obama supporters who live in a fantasy world. But people here will believe any ridiculous rumor or smear about Obama. You also all buy into the dumb talking points of the Republicans. I have real policy reasons for voting for Obama, but people here claim they are Democrats and then refuse to vote for a mainstream Democrat. I think it is clear who has drank the Kool-Aid.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Worse. He signed a pledge to the public.

    It doesn’t matter. We all knew he’d back out. We all know he’s a liar.

    It really doesn’t matter to those of us who have followed the election.

    Probably, it was a very bad day for PR for Obama. His announcement video was labeled, “self-serving and disingenuous.”

    And the right hit hard with his big flipping lie about PACS and lobbyists, too.

    You’re gonna hate this one!

    Take a look at the true facts of the Republican PACS.

    http://www.thenextright.com/patrick-ruffini/obamas-pacs-and-lobbyists-canard

  • tampagurl

    Obama is the biggest advertising campaign I have ever seen. People are buying him up like an infomercial. Well I never bought anything from an infomercial and I’m not buying OOOO BAM AAAA !!!! Not now not ever.

  • DoroB

    “many uncommitted voters were for Obama”? So how did he manage to get fewer votes than Hillary then? Hillary got more votes than “uncommitted”. So where did these mystery uncommitted voters come from? That’s what I call voodoo logic.

    The election doesn’t reflect real preferences? You meant the people who voted were just playing around? Nice to see you keeping up with the elitist tradition of your campaign.

    You also conveniently forgot to explain how you can claim that Obama did not campaign in MI and FL when he did…

  • street_parade

    I guess it depends on what your definition of “is” is.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    You and 67% of Americans. LOL* Apparently, Florida isn’t so concerned. McCain got a lot of mileage out of pointing out how the oil rigs fared in Katrina.

    That rings true with people.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/mccain_scores_with_offshore_dr.html

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    *hehe……you got that right! It takes a lot of money to avoid campaigning and just dump ads that drive people crazy onto the market. :)

  • street_parade

    It must be tough to give a reason to vote FOR Obama because if you give me a list of his positions he’ll change them tomorrow.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Actually, Bella…..you’ll see a version of that before the campaign is out.

    Arnold used it successfully in CA. :)

    He got TROMPED on his agenda after he was elected. A new and far more Moderate Arnold showed up.

    His change of heart? He said “I was naive to think one can be an outsider and run this state.”

    So, yup……look for it soon.

    BTW, Bill Clinton was the master of this tactic. Whenever he took the country too fast on his change agenda and got smacked down, he just owned it, adjusted and settled for less.

    That came back to haunt Hillary, but in my opinion, it’s responsive government.

    The one problem with Obama? I don’t see that he’s actually responsive.

  • jc

    If you add uncommitted to Obama’s vote total, then he had the most total votes in the primaries and caucuses. Is that so hard to understand. Do you really believe that Obama would have got zero votes if he were on the ballot in Michigan? Is that your argument?

  • jc

    You should like him because this seems to be very consistent with Clinton’s position.

  • DoroB

    If Obama wanted votes why did he take his name off the ballot?

    Again, you conveniently forgot to explain how you can claim that Obama did not campaign in MI and FL when he did…

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    No kidding. He won’t even meet McCain at a town hall, nevermind really discuss finance.

    Pure BS.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Yeah, those voters didn’t really matter. They are under the bus with a lot of folks.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I’d say 70% will never click on HuffPo.

    Ask us why. :)

  • jc

    Here is the letter the FEC sent to McCain. It states:

    As you may be aware, in Advisory Opinion 2003-35 (Gephardt), the Commission balanced the voluntary nature of participating in the Matching Payment Program with the contractual obligations a candidate commits to once he seeks and receives Commissions certification of eligibility to receive payments under the Matching Payment Program. The Commission made clear that a candidate enters into a binding contract with the Commission when he executes the Candidate Agreements and Certifications. AO 2003-35. The Commission stated that it would withdraw a candidate’s certifications upon written request, thus agreeing to rescind the contract, so long as the candidate: 1) had not received Matching Payment Program funds, and 2) had not pledged the certification of Matching Payment Program funds as “security for private financing.” Id.

    Accordingly, we consider your letter as a request that the Commission withdraw its previous certifications. Just as 2 U.S.C. § 437c(c) required an affirmative vote of four Commissioners to make these certifications, it requires an affirmative vote of four Commissioners to withdraw them. Therefore, the Commission will consider your request at such time as it has a quorum.

    The way I read this is that McCain cannot get out once he is in unless he gets approval from the FEC. That approval has not been made.

    Hope this helps.
    http://www.fec.gov/press/press2008/FECtoMcCain.PDF

  • DoroB

    Oh poor Barack! How they smear him!!

    Sorry, you can’t convince us to vote for a hypocrite with a D after his name.

  • DoroB

    By the way, where were you when your master used Republican talking points to smear universal health care?

  • jc

    Because an add that was run nationally happened to run in Florida. I guess you are right. This was just like any other election. And the fact that Obama’s name wasn’t on the ballot in MI doesn’t really matter. Maybe we should add the votes from American Idol and the straw poll on the Fox News site as well.

  • jc

    I admit that was bad. That was not his finest moment. Many Obama supporters said as much. However, Hillary used Republican talking points of her own.

  • Seattle Moss

    Now that’s Chain’s we can live with!

  • Seattle Moss

    Maybe he will pick Kerry and then they’re flip flops will cancel each other out

  • jack, too

    Am I running for President?

    What a silly question.

  • jack, too

    You really never have a new thought, plan, or approach, ever, do you?

    I’ve never seen anything like it, petrified mind, without a clue.

    Your lack of skill sets are not desirable, in a troll.

    Catch on, yet?

    Still babblin batshit, eh?

  • Seattle Moss

    What are you Anti-Americans to do know that were winning in Iraq?

    The Iraqi army with the US took over a section of Baghdad that was controlled by Sadr. Not even a shot was fired as the Madi Army laid down their arms.

  • jack, too

    All the numbers are snow, are you betting they will drill offshore?

    I look at the players, same crew, incapable of remembering yesterday, the news reads the same.

    Study their corruption patterns, their paranoia, and you have your prediction.

    Everything else is bullshit, you know that, since Cheney, they do what they want…

  • jack, too

    Problem is, the idiot troll really believes his shit works.

    Too too funny.

  • jack, too

    See how easy it is to troll the troll?

    He continues with his same line of batshit, no matter the reality around him, no matter the slight changes he may think he sees.

    As long as he thinks he’s getting a reaction, he continues with the same line, any variation, and he’s screwed, this is it, this is ALL he has.

    He is, for all his pretense, simple minded.

    Really.

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    I’ll send this without the link since it is getting caught in the filter BUT Quaddaffi said Obama is Muslim, isn’t he a friend of Wrights?
    http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP196008

    Following are excerpts from a public address by Libyan Leader Mu’ammar Al-Qaddafi marking the anniversary of the U.S. air raid on Libya. The address aired on Al-Jazeera TV on June 11, 2008:

    To view this clip on MEMRI TV, visit

    To view MEMRI TV page on Mu’ammar Al-Qaddafi, visit .

    “All The People In The Arab And Islamic World And In Africa Applauded This Man [Obama]… [And] May Have Even Been Involved In Legitimate Contribution Campaigns”

    Mu’ammar Al-Qaddafi: “It has been proven that there is no democracy in [the U.S.]. Rather, it is a dictatorship no different than the dictatorships of Hitler, Napoleon, Mussolini, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, and the rest of the tyrants.

    “In the days of crazy Reagan, the American president issued a presidential order to launch a war against Libya, for example, a presidential order to besiege Libya, a presidential order to boycott Libya, and so on. Is this a democracy or a dictatorship?

    [...]

    “There are elections in America now. Along came a black citizen of Kenyan African origins, a Muslim, who had studied in an Islamic school in Indonesia. His name is Obama.

  • jack, too

    He’s an untalented pompous asshole, he’ll believe anything.

  • jack, too

    She’s in trouble, isn’t she?

  • jc

    This sounds like an anti-Clinton Republican line.

  • http://www.latinorepublican.com DD

    Today McCain promised OBL’s death while Obama wanted to spare Osama’s life. Quite a contrast.

  • Acadian

    I’d bet that the oil companies are going to need a hell of a lot more incentive than they’ve currently got to look for offshore drilling sites.

    It’s not like there’s a motive for them to up production now and reduce prices.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Yup……and boy, we know all about his so-called “couldn’t reach agreement” shenanigans.

    MI anyone?

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    http://www.thenextright.com/patrick-ruffini/obamas-pacs-and-lobbyists-

    Drink some water after every drink of kool-aid.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    Democrat: That’s what we did too…walked away from Obama’s “crappy deal”.

  • Karma

    Yeah, checking that $3 box on my tax returns really hit me hard…LOL

  • The Real Hope

    Who really is this guy Obama anyway? Does anyone really know? Is he a pod person, an alien or what? I’m beginning to wonder just who is really behind this creep. There is absolutely no way in hell that I could possibly EVER vote for this alien.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I think he’s just a politician…….like a lot I’ve met……except he’s got a tan and so everyone is overly excited and not thinking.

    I have always respect real people, regardless of race.

    Bright people are bright. Some are really good at power stuff. Some are brilliant behind the scenes.

    I have learned to respect people. I also respect people are NOT brilliant.

    I’ve seen them do great things, too.

    I’ve never seen, however, cheaters really do much good.

    They just cheat good.

    But the legacy?

    Not worthy of note.

    I think Obama is a cheater.

  • Teakwood

    Are you one of those turtles I’ve seen on them fence posts?

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I should have added that I’ve learned to really pay attention to the quiet people in life. Me? Obviously, I’m a yapper.

    But I learned in my career to ask the quiet people what they thought. They had a LOT to say, it turns out………and very well thought out.

    Me? I often yap before it’s all lined up and thought out. That is my own pesonality.

    But quiet people? They think a lot before speaking.

    I think that there will be a huge factor of the “quiet people” in this election.

    They won’t necessarily “poll” or make the big stories.

    They are just thinking and will speak out in their own time.

    I suspect that’s what we yappers call……”upsets.”

    :)

  • Teakwood

    He missed packing your sand ya bag.

  • Teakwood

    His mouth was moving and sayin all that shit, wasn’t it?

    It was saying exactly what Mr.Johnson Quoted up thread. Are you in need of reading glasses? Or are trying to avoid the sinking feeling of being duped?

  • UKforDems

    Well Hillary signed a pledge to agree that Michigan and Florida should not be seated – then lied to hell and earth about it. I guess it does not matter as she LOST!

  • John House

    “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. The bamboozle has captured us. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

    Carl Sagan

  • Teakwood

    For a skinny guy, Barack sure has a lot of bullshit in him.

    You would think his CRAP CANNON was going to overheat, like assult on Fort Ticonderoga during the french Indian Wars.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    How many of those “uncommitted” votes were for other Democratic candidates? Maybe some wanted Biden or Edwards or Kucinich or whomever. I love how Obamaniacs grab everything not nailed down and put their brand on it.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    “I have real policy reasons for voting for Obama, but people here claim they are Democrats and then refuse to vote for a mainstream Democrat.”

    Why must we keep reminding you…Obama has no policies and he is not anywhere near a “mainstream” Democrat. He’s hard left wing extremist. I don’t think anyone here is claiming to be a Democrat though most of us once were until a few weeks ago…and we won’t be going back.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    Obama/Kerry 08! Be still my heart!
    Please, please, please! It would be so much fun.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    Yeah, and there’s lots more on Open Secret. The law firm Michelle worked for had their $290k split up into $50k contributions from various employees…bundling, it’s called. They are consultants (read lobbyists).

    It’s such a deception that he’s perpetuated that I get almost physically ill thinking of how he’s duped these poor naive idealists. The cynicism they’ll have when the veil is finally lifted will be truly sad.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    You are right and they are still called “The Silent Majority”…

  • karen for Clinton

    The photo op was in Quincy, Illinois.

    Oblah didn’t go to Iowa, as far as I know.

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  • Coster

    I thought Obama was a “new kind of politician.” But I guess that’s just another one of his lies.

  • abiodun

    For once a Democratic candidate that will not be pushed around! So Obama should give up his advantage so the repub 527 can ravage him even though he raises his money from people like me. Thanks for your bias.

  • Nicole

    Hey, everyone, check out this youtube video of an Obama supporter–via BytheFault–who’s beginning to the light.

    http://www.bythefault.com/2008/06/20/an-obama-supporter-now-has-doubts/

  • Mary

    Washington Post has given Obama 3 Pinocchios for his public financing fiasco.

    They have copies of his own words on video, AND the written, signed pledge he agreed to in 2007.

    The man is a liar.

  • Mary

    Ethel Kennedy had a fundraiser for him in her home last week at $23,000 a pop just to attend.

    He’s not getting his money from “little people.”

    He’s a fraud.

  • Mary

    And you can bet your bottom dollar that Obama’s windfall profits tax won’t motivate them to explore those sites, either.

    I remember Carter’s windfall profits tax. Domestic exploration went DOWN, and put a lot of independents out of business.

  • Mary

    No, dear. That’s only the public image.

    He’s running fund raisers like the one at Ethel Kennedy’s house for $23,000 a pop just to attend.

    You’ve been bamboozled.

  • Mary

    And he really has NOTHING significant to say , except Obama code words like “bitter.”

    Dissing the voters Obama will need in November doesn’t seem to be “unifying” anybody, does it?

    Obamabots…..working AGAINST their candidate, because they’re stupid. :)

  • Mary

    I’m eagerly awaiting John Kerry’s courageous condemnation of the SwiftBoating of John McCain’s 5 years in Hanoi Hilton on Daily Kos.

    Snark, of course.

    Kerry doesn’t have the guts.

  • Mary

    Of course Obama lied.

    He makes no mention of his own need to curb the MoveOn.org ads on his behalf. Or the leftie blogs now slandering McCain and his family.

    This has nothing to do with the 527′s.

    This has to do with $$$ and Obama’s own need for power.

    He learned those “ethics” in Chicago.

    YUK

  • Bonita

    Oh good grief! Like democrats don’t have their own groups making 527′s. Surely, you’re not that gullible.

  • Bonita

    What exactly did he offer there Democrat?

    You are so — well I won’t go there.

    Obama said he proposed a solution, McCain said there never was a meeting. Who to believe.

    What solution did Obama propose? Please go research that then come back here with specifics, otherwise you look like a talking bobblehead.

  • wcwf50

    Top Contributors to BO

    Goldman Sachs $571,330
    University of California $437,236
    UBS AG $364,806
    JPMorgan Chase & Co $362,207
    Citigroup Inc $358,054
    National Amusements Inc $320,750
    Lehman Brothers $318,647
    Google Inc $309,514
    Harvard University $309,025
    Sidley Austin LLP $294,245
    Skadden, Arps et al $270,013
    Time Warner $262,677
    Morgan Stanley $259,876
    Jones Day $250,725
    Exelon Corp $236,211
    University of Chicago $218,857
    Wilmerhale LLP $218,680
    Latham & Watkins $218,615
    Microsoft Corp $209,242
    Stanford University $195,262

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

  • Mary

    So, you think Obama should reject the Democratic 527′s too, or are those ok, since they’re supporting HIM?

  • Mary

    NOtice, folks, that Obama’s biggest contributors are the very financial institutions that made HUGE profits on the subprime fiasco.

    They made close to $480 million profits last year, as opposed to the oil companies making $84 million profits.

    And yet, he wants a windfall profits tax on the oil companies, but NO REGUALTION on the financials that donate to him.

    What’s wrong with this picture?

  • Mary

    NOtice, folks, that Obama’s biggest contributors are the very financial institutions that made HUGE profits on the subprime fiasco.

    They made close to $480 million profits last year, as opposed to the oil companies making $84 million profits.

    And yet, he wants a windfall profits tax on the oil companies, but NO REGUALTION on the financials that donate to him.

    What’s wrong with this picture?

  • Indyvoter

    Thank you Larry for staying strong and reporting the truth.

    Just visited TM’s site. Not a busy place since she rolled over for BO.

    I’m very interested in getting critical info on both candidates and sincerely believe Hillary was our best option.

    My impression of BO has been “left-wing Bush,” but at least Bush tried to not be a flip-flopper. BO is not even trying to keep his commitments. He’s certainly flopped public financing.

    Like Bush, if BO gets in, we’d need to hope for the best. Like Bush, BO has been and will be nothing but disappointment after disappointment…

  • Clinton Fan

    He CHANGES his mind more than you CHANGE your socks!!!

    BELIEVE it!!

    Let’s HOPE like hell he doesn’t make the cut.

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