Undoubtedly the many billions made by drug and insurance monopolies will become bigger as insurance rates escalate.

Obama has done a bait and switch, has fudged on his promises, and has intentionally been silent so that everyone can make mayhem, control the debate, and he can say…..gosh, er….

What a sellout. What an enoumous lack of leadership. How can Obamatons like Markos over at Kos continue to treat this evasive and dishonest behavior with apologies and tentativeness?

and YES republicans WOULD back a good plan… but what we have on the table is JUST crap.

(Bad) Mandated abortion coverage?

(Bad) 45 million new clients to the system and not the ability to cover them if we graduated all the potential medical students down to those still in 2nd grade…

(Bad) 17 million illegals with free care that they are not contributing to…

(Bad) a healthcare czar who has ANIMALS at the same level of rights as Humans??? I love animals but if it was between my wife and your dog… you would be visiting the pet store for another one real soon.

So if we don’t have the medical staff to cover the new need …
HOW WILL I STILL BE ABLE TO GET THE SAME Coverage and care?
Rationing by the heathcare czar…? Ugh

June 1, 2009

Cornell Legal Studies Research Paper No. 09-011

Abstract:
Empirical studies have consistently shown that punitive damages are rarely awarded, with rates of about three to five percent of plaintiff trial wins. Using the 2005 data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics Civil Justice Survey, this article shows that knowing in which cases plaintiffs sought punitive damages transforms the picture of punitive damages. Not accounting for whether punitive damages were sought obscures the meaningful punitive damages rate, the rate of awards in cases in which they were sought, by a factor of nearly 10, and obfuscates a more explicable pattern of awards than has been reported. Punitive damages were surprisingly infrequently sought, with requests found in about 10% of tried cases that plaintiffs won. Punitive damages were awarded in about 30% these trials.

Source: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1412864#

Said like a true socialist. Next comes redistribution of wealth. Clearly you never started or ran a successful business. Clueless.

Said like a true fool.

They do it to limit their exposure when some sleezebag lawyer and sleezbag get-rich-quick client sue doctors and hospitals for no good reason and get big money settlements. THAT is why you need tort reform. But why should you know that?

Said like a true socialist. Next comes redistribution of wealth. Clearly you never started or ran a successful business. Clueless.

As for loons, that you are enamored of Insurance companies that raise rates at the drop of a hat makes you a loon. Frankly, I’m tired of lining the pockets of robber barons, governmental or otherwise. Real healthcare reform begins with strict oversight of those greedy bastards.

If you look at other industries that were de-regulated (airline and telephone) it shows that eliminated government over-regulation does open comptetion and lowers costs.

The government option people have no case study that works.

Your Obamcare will lead to the failures as already seen in Canada and the U.K.

There is another way that does not require the government do anything but allow greater competition as well as industry co-ops for small businesses and independent payees.

Berfle if you want socialism go move to a country that already has it and knock yourself out.

CRS is calling on Congress to adopt clearer language that would unequivocally make illegal aliens ineligible for publicly funded or subsidized healthcare and require stringent verification criteria. It also wants a five-year waiting period introduced for legal immigrants to prevent abuses of the system through “healthcare tourism.”

Which is another pachyderm in the room; is quite possible the years and years and years illegals have been treated, say for example in California, may have contributed to some of the deficit and issue and problems we have with health care?(sarcasm) I remember quite well as a young mother in the early 80′s, being denied coverage for myself and my toddler son, any form of social help as in medicine, food or housing, because I was bringing home 350.00 a week after taxes. I remember this so well, as many people felt it was their duty to make sure and feed the tired, and the hungry and care for the poor; but not the American poor, rather those who may become American’s one day.
The problems we have now are not new, and not addressing the issues which have perpetuated a system into failure, will not bring about the relief we seek as citizens for health care in our country. This health care bill is like putting a band-aid on a gushing artery, smiling and saying to the patient; it’s alright, just a flesh wound.
We could be the altruistic nation we strive to be if only we would put the oxygen mask on our own people, first. Fix our economy, create jobs, take care of OUR MILITARY AS PROMISED, make secondary education affordable, and primary education applicable; clean up our own side of the street. Create health care that addresses our issues, maintain this government for its people. Then we we will be able to reach out more often in a real fashion. No more bills for political party future campaign advantage, no more beating down our countrymen and women because of one label or another. Enough is enough. The government needs to be fired or behave as citizens actually interested in their country, not just their political career. I’m sorry, if this makes me racist, xenophobic, whatever, I can live with it; I’ll take my chances.

CRS says healthcare bill would cover illegal aliens
August 31, 2009 by Personal Liberty News Desk
The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) has long criticized the proposed House healthcare bill for its provisions to cover illegal immigrants, and its position has now been supported by a report from the Congressional Research Service (CRS).

CRS is the research arm of the U.S. Congress, and its study has found that under the Affordable Health Care Act of 2009, proposed by the House of Representatives, illegal aliens would potentially be able to receive benefits under the so-called public option.

It has also established the bill does not include a mechanism to prevent illegal immigrants from applying for and receiving “affordability credits” that would help low-income individuals purchase private health insurance.

“These loopholes were intended to extend benefits to illegal aliens while allowing Members of Congress to deny those facts to the American people,” says Dan Stein, president of FAIR.

“It is time for the politicians to close [them],” he adds.

CRS is calling on Congress to adopt clearer language that would unequivocally make illegal aliens ineligible for publicly funded or subsidized healthcare and require stringent verification criteria. It also wants a five-year waiting period introduced for legal immigrants to prevent abuses of the system through “healthcare tourism.”

Regarding my earlier post, I don’t propose that government, whether it’s state or federal, butt out of healthcare completely. But mandates have caused a drift towards comprehensive coverage (alcoholism coverage, birth control coverage, etc., etc.) that has caused premiums to become unaffordable for too many people. Some feel allowing the inter-state sale of health insurance would help to rationalize this. I’d like to hear more from opponents to help us understand the downside.

In any case, government still needs to continue to make sure insurers have the wherewithal (solvency) to uphold their end of the bargain so that consumers can feel secure that healthcare products they buy are sound.

I’ve been reading a lot about healthcare lately and my education is ongoing, so my opinions may change!