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That Is SOME Turnabout

Rep. Carol Shea-Porter of NH went from being a citizen who protested at Town Halls, who was removed from a George Bush event, and disrupted her former congressperson’s town halls, to someone who has a constituent removed for asking a simple question. Yes, in just four years, Rep. Shea-Porter has done a complete 180. Astonishing. Sadly predictable. And incredibly hypocritical. Now she is treating her constituents, who were far less disruptive than she was from all reports, as if they are raving lunatics.

Check out what happened to one such “lunatic”:



You can see why he needed to be escorted out by Security. Ahem. He wanted to know if someone there was actually from NH. And the man escorted out is a retired police officer.

Oh, didn’t you also like her snide comment to him about her hope that a movie theater would be quieter?

And here is another one of her rabid constituents, who recounts his attempts to get ANY information from her office about upcoming events:

Wow. Way to represent your people, Rep. Shea-Porter. She has some major short-term memory loss it would seem. Or is as clear an example as anyone could want that power corrupts. Maybe both.

Do you think she knows that people voted her in, and they can vote her out?

This really is quite sad if you think about it (on a number of levels). That someone who regularly exercised her right to protest, including against the President of the United States, has now become someone who will not tolerate even the slightest dissent in the form of a question. In four years since she was elected she has done this turnabout. It really makes you wonder – which one was the real person, the one who protested, or the one who removes protesters?

In any event, I reckon her constituents are going to have the opportunity to let her know just how they feel about her treatment of them in a few short months. Yep. Perhaps by then, she will have realized maybe she shouldn’t have treated them like a disposable commodity. Time will tell.

  • candymarl

    This is why we couldn’t wait for GWB to leave. New boss same as the old boss.

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      Amen, candymarl…

      IALT, great point! That is so typical, too, isn’t it?? These folks have so much righteous integrity – until someone hands them a wad of cash. Then it’s, “Never mind!” Sheesh.

      • Kathleen Wynne

        Rev. Amy,

        I believe she reacted as she did because she knew THEY COULDN’T VOTE HER OUT! I am convinced that everyone who gets into power must first pass a test with the party leadership pledging that they will “go along” and not rock the boat once they get into power. They would never allow someone like Sarah Palin to get into a powerful position because she is willing to blow the whistle on corruption. They must protect themselves from being exposed at all costs.

        As you know, our elections are corrupt. Because of this, our representatives become corrupt almost from the moment they get into office. This is why they do not represent the best interests of the people they were sent to Washington to serve, they only serve the party leadership. Why else can they be so arrogant? Also, I heard today that when a constituent of Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey called her office protesting the health care bill, her office told the constituent “she knew what was best!” What happened to the “will of the people?” I am convinced by such behavior that they know it’s only when they don’t serve the party leaders that they are taken out of power.

        This is why we must reform our elections to become truly transparent, with major citizen oversight of the process, particularly the complete process of the counting of their votes. Which can only be achieved when counted by hand. No machine counts and no backroom counts.

        • bayareavoter

          Exactly. We need real election reform at the ballot box and we won’t have real democracy until we take money out of politics.

          Ralph Nader is right.

        • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

          EXCELLENT points, Kathleen!

          The patronizing, arrogant, condescension of these elected officials really is astonishing. I saw a clip this morning of Louise Slaughter saying she wouldn’t hold town hall meetings because she didn’t want to give those “groups” that kind of forum (or something along those lines). So, she REFUSED to meet with her constituents, and then claimed that she has a VERY close relationship with them. I’m not making this crap up! (My buddy, Nunly, had mentioned this to me yesterday, too.) Say, WHAAAA??? Wow.

    • kgirl1028

      I am no fan of George W.Bush but when the hell did something like that happen under him when someone was challenging their own representative. NEVER! Period. PEople need to wake up this is not bush revisisited. This is something much worse and a whole alot more sinister.

      • Ferd Berfle

        I would agree, except that I was called Unamerican for being against the invasion of Iraq–and I’m a veteran. There are extremists on both sides that need to be muzzled. My disdain for That One and the Democrats does not translate into support for the past Administration. This country is in for truly rough times ahead if we don’t come to our senses and reject the dogma we’re being fed daily by both sides. I fully intend to think for myself.

        • rw

          “My disdain for That One and the Democrats does not translate into support for the past Administration.”

          Agree. Just that in retrospect, one tends to think, Damn they weren’t that bad were they…if only they had not (fill in the blank).

          • Ferd Berfle

            The phrase, “taken on airs” comes to mind.

            • rw

              lol…that’s the least harmful that could go in the blank.

      • Diana L. C.

        George Bush did control who attended his events. In Colorado we had a case of people ejected from an event based simply on the bumper sticker someone saw on their car. Bush did it, too. But RRRA is making the point that this woman is being hypocritical.

        • armymom

          I went to Bush’s rally in Columbus Ohio when Arnold was with him (promised my repub sister I would go and listen) I was a dem, stood in line for several hours with a lot of repubs and they knew I was a dem, was never once told or asked to leave. And not one repub was even the least bit nasty to me or my hubby. In fact we joked back and forth to each other. Guess it depends on where you lived.

          I didn’t like a lot of what Bush did, especially when I had a son enlist in what I thought was a wrong war. In fact, I couldn’t go and see him off when he left because I was so mad. Lots of things have changed since that time, including my attitude. I listen to both sides now and I am soooooo proud of my son. He just returned from his 4th tour just this past Saturday. But man, to compare Obama to Bush is just plain wrong.Obama is Bush on steroids and then some. I truly believe that Bush at least loved this country. I can’t say the same for Obama and his supporters. And I don’t say that lightly especially since I was called un-American for not supporting Iraq.

          • Portia Elizabeth

            Please give your brave son an extra hug from another mom and tell him we’re all proud and grateful for his sacrifice!

          • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

            Agreed. I think what we are seeing is what happens when the usually disenfranchised hardcore left wing gets some power, and it’s not pretty.

          • Katmoon

            Hooah! I was thinking of you the other day ArmyMom, as I had not seen you here in awhile.

            I lost the original comment I made but will try again. I experienced the same thing you did regarding being supportive of the soldiers but against the war. My son had enlisted before 911. I was very vocal about the war in a very public way, prior to what we now see as blogs on the internet. Our group of military parents were treated to some intimidation by a specific group, and I screamed about that long and loud. I had a small amount of criticism from some extreme right wing types, but overall I was treated far better than with discussions of disagreement, not the bullying and madness of have seen take over since the election last year. The behaviors that caused me to leave the democrat party.
            I was very critical of Bush, but I too would agree, I believe Bush loves this country, O only loves himself. The pure savaging of those in opposition of Obama is like nothing I have ever experienced before.
            I am good with hearing both sides, provided they are not in the extreme, my ears just turn off when the word “racist” gets casually tossed out, over and over again.
            My son redeploys to Afghanistan, in May 2010, and our daughter will be there, possibly as well, as she has since enlisted. As always our soldiers have my complete support and respect, and always will.
            So nice to “see” you again, and thank you for your words, as you portray exactly what so many of us went through.
            Take Care.

            • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

              Army Mom, you’ve been AWOL!! :-) Good to *see* you back.

              Katmoon, I agree – the level of discourse has declined so far so fast, it makes my head spin. O’s supporters don’t seem to give a damn abt how he won, just that he won. I;ve complained abt this before – cheating, bullying, threatening, are all A-Okay as long as your side wins. I saw a bumpersticker down here that read, “Obama Won – Get Over It.” Nice.

              Now you have MoveOn people acting flat out rabid, numerous attempts by DEMOCRATS to silence people, and elected officials acting like the don’t have to answer to us. Holy smokes…

              Oh, and I was very opposed to both of the Iraq Wars, but when I was protesting against the first one, in Boston, nary a soul threatened me…

          • http://www.madinthemiddle.blogspot.com churl

            If Bush had loved his country, he would have actually served in the military, and no vet I know considers a man who went straight from civilian life to a jet, without ever passing through OCS or Basic Training, a vet. He is a tourist.

        • Nellie

          Of course I disagree with the “selecting” of people for any political event. It’s not like a rock concert. People attend political events to become more informed.

          That said, Bush did NOT represent the people of Colorado as their Senator or elected representative. What Carol Shea-Porter did was much worse as she brought in people she DOES NOT represent, and made it extremely inconvenient for the people she is supposed to represent to ask questions or have input.

          Just for starters, the building she chose, the Morris -Cotton Federal Bldg, is one of two or three “high rises” in the city of Manchester, NH. It houses Social Security, the IRS, VA benefits etc. As a Federal Bldg it pays NO Real Estate taxes, and the number of jobs available there are minimal.

          Secondly the Bldg itself is located in an area with very limited parking and is near the Police Station. This means local residents have to park blocks away just to attend. Shea-Porter could have easily requested use of one of the 3 high schools, the Public Library, the “new” Manchester City Hall, or even Derryfield Country Club; ALL of which are easily gotten to, and have ample parking for all citizens, especially those who may have limited mobility.

          The out of staters were most likely bussed in and dropped off at the front door, so they sure were not inconvenienced. Further these “outlanders” are the same people who obtained their “jobs” through Craig’s List, and are being paid $11-$16/hour of OUR tax money to be there.

          Never in my 60+ years has anyone EVER had to be picked from a lottery to ask questions at a political meeting. Granted it sometimes get contentious at town hall meetings, especially among the males. However, NH men are damn good at policing themselves, and if it was going over the top, 3 or 4 actual citizens would have gone up to the retired policeman and quietly but firmly pulled him out of the room until he calmed down. Then things would proceed as normal.

          NO politician in NH requires the “Federal Protection Services”. NH has one of the lowest crime rates in the country and the lowest murder rate. Even the setup of this Fascist Farce is frightening and disquieting to say the least.

          All of us need to wake up and SAY “No More”. There are more of us than of them.

          • Patience

            So, out-of-state astroturf supporters were bussed to this townhall too?

            I’ve been trying to determine who the ejected man’s question about — I couldn’t tell from the video if he wanted to know if another townhall participant or the Congresswoman was from NH. Now I have a much clearer sense of what was going on at this event. Thanks for all the added info Nellie.

            • Nellie

              Patience,

              As Portia Elizabeth has astutely learned after moving to our wonderful state of NH, we do have our own customs and mores, as do other areas and regions of the country.

              If you look closely at the video RRRA provided, the NH people are dressed conservatively but more casually. Anyone from NH can recognize the out of staters not only by dress, but also by body language. New Hampshirites are comfortable in their own skins, and feel safe. We do not hold ourselves as rigidly as those from MA urban areas.

              Of course we can spot an “outlander” in seconds. So yes, a retired NH policeman, would have known instantly who in the crowd did not belong, as easily as he breathes.

              Hope that helps.

      • tzada

        I agree with you. Never ever did we see this. We did not have the conflict that is trying to be raised among the races until ovomit came on the scene.

        • Ladydawnelle

          It was BAD ENOUGH being a VETERAN and proud of it although against the Iraq Sand Trap Grab back then.

          BUT NOW, yes indeedy, being a VET means absolutely NOTHING to these lemming DONKEY DOPES 4 (NO) HOPE!

          Yes I even said, how could it be worse? IN the beginning, even though I never voted for the Crook from the Southside. Boy was I (and many others) very very wrongo about BOngo.

          sheeeeeeeeeeeees

          COME ON SARAH!!!

      • Diana L. C.

        Please take the limk below. I am no fan of Obama, and I don’t know anything about Shea-Porter, as I obviously live in Colorado. But I am also not a fan of Bush/Cheney. I didn’t like their tactics either. To use the word “never” is too strong. These things did happen under Bush, too.

        http://www.emailthecongress.com/news/2005/04-05-bumper-sticker-gets-colorado-residents-barred-from-bush-event.html

  • I’m a Linda too

    yes yes and yes. And omg Carol Shea Porter sucks. I hope what few Deaniacs are left will show her the love she’s hoping for, because she’ll be losing more and more daily with her conduct.

    Mmmm just like how she wouldn’t endorse a candidate, but after Obama’s PAC gave her such nice contributions, she back tracked on that promise and endorsed Barry. This clown, who seems to be nothing but like the militants on the far left, I hope she loses her seat. She surely deserves to.

    • candymarl

      Where do you think all of this money came from? Amazing the number of Dems that changed their tune once thousand of dollars appeared from no where. Huh.

    • Don

      My sentiments exactly. I have no idea who Carol Shea Porter is other than having been a life-long registered democrat, since 1964 until May 31, 2008, I had contributed to her initial campaign; I think in response to an e-mail from Wesley Clark. I too was extremely disappointed in her “not endorsing a candidate” until she suddenly changed her tune when the Obama team sent some money her way and suddently she was on board. Obviously I will no longer support the DNC; in the future only individual candidates for me.

  • NewHampshireAlex

    Well, well, well. I LIVE in New Hampshire and I will do my best to campaign against this woman. This is an appalling display of partisan politics and the suppression of free speech and dialogue. Shame on her.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Thanks for another gem, RRRA.

    Yeah, just another chameleon.

    My former party promised change from the Republican-type of rule and the Bush style of leadership. I knew in my heart it was a lie and left the party. And to no one’s surprise, except a few drooling bots, we got neither thing that was promised. And even if the parties exchange places, I don’t expect things will ever change. As candymarl said, “new boss same as the old boss”.

    The only way we are ever going to get real change is with a wholesale turnout of the incumbents. If they’re in now, they’re out next cycle, whether they’re good or bad. A message needs to be delivered to them complete with a reciprocating boot to kick them squarely in the backside on their way out.

  • Katmoon

    Is anyone as exhausted as I am since last election until now from the neck twisting back and forth to keep up with the lies from these bastards? Seriously I am worn out!

    • I’m a Linda too

      Yes. And funny, today I blasted Billy Joel all day long to escape.

      • http://www.DailyPUMA.com Alessandro Machi

        The conundrum thickens. You blasted Billy Joel, but in my world, I blame the celebrities for standing on the sidelines and doing NOTHING even as the banking industry, primarily Chase Bank, has run roughshed over more than a million of their most reliable customers.

  • Katmoon

    I must be terminally jaded, nothing, surprises me anymore; we have had pundits and voters making fun over downs syndrome children; we can protest the war, but not laws made in our own country, its ok to be racist and sexist as long as you are a democrat, everything Bush did was wrong but if boy wonder does it, it is fine, because it is laced in hope and change. Whats next, human sacrifice? Wait, never mind…that would be….(insert a war currently being engaged in, survivor families of victims of hurricane katrina…..you get the picture). THEY (as in the politicians) will go to whatever means necessary to get what they want,… regardless. If we want our country to be what it is said to be, we the voters had better get on the stick, now, not on election day.

    • Docelder

      Well, you can’t trust anything any of them say. Just watch what they do, because their word isn’t worth squat. Now Van Jones says he was never a truther.

      http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/09/controversial-obama-administration-official-denies-being-part-of-911-truther-movement-apologizes-for.html

      I guess that settles it… provided his word was worth anything at this point. The thing is, is Obama the most inept President ever for appointing somebody like this to advise him without knowing… or did he know… which makes him just flat out the worst President ever. I guess Jimmy Carter can smile now.

      • Ferd Berfle

        I saw Glenn Beck tonight talking about that Benedict Arnold Van Jones; Glenn played some of Jones’ anti-American claptrap. He sounded just like That One, except with a sociopathic, anti-white edge. If any white had said anything like that, he’d be arrested on the spot for hate speech. Van Jones is a racist bastard of the worst sort and a fellow traveler. I said it and I mean it. Furthermore, that mealy-mouthed scumbag needs to be drummed out of his position, post haste. A lawsuit or two might also be in order. He is about as un-American as anyone I’ve ever had the unfortunate luck to get notice of.

        That One has some explaining to do.

        which makes him just flat out the worst President ever. I guess Jimmy Carter can smile now.

        And Dubya.

        • Ferd Berfle

          With respect to Van Jones, I should add that a collective somewhere is missing their communal i d i o t.

          • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

            The Politboro is missing a moron.

  • Katmoon

    OK, putting the Anejo’ down now.

    • I’m a Linda too

      lol NO, Don’t…I’ll join, Uno, Dos, Tres….ANDELE SHOT!

      • Katmoon

        Ahh..(I heard your shot glass slam down :) )That rum is so smooth, goes down way too easy Gracias, Oh-oy, I better eat some salt to be on the safe side; we known darn good and well this behavior is not condoned under his wee-weenesses health care mini-carta.

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Katmoon, you feel free any time, friend!!

    And yeah, I think I have some whiplash going on! :-)

    It really is startling that someone who engaged in these very actions, even more antagonistic, is now having retired cops escorted out because he wanted to know if the group she brought with her have a legitimate reason to be there…

    NHAlex, I wish you all the best in your efforts to send this woman packing. She has so clearly forgotten she is supposed to serve the public…

    Ferd, excellent point.

    • Katmoon

      Thanks Rev Amy; :)

    • Ferd Berfle

      And thank you for your work on exposing these lackeys, RRRA.

      Ferd.

      • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

        Oh, you’re welcome – though I think we all wish I didn’t have so darn much abt which to write! :-)

  • Gianni

    I don’t understand why that guy in the first video was asked to leave by the police. So he asked her if she was from New Hampshire. Big deal. That is pretty bad.

    • Ellen D

      Apparently asking where someone is from makes you a birther ;)

  • Kim

    So much for free speech. I don’t know what the heck has happened to the party I used to belong to (Democrats), but it is just disgusing and disturbing. That man was one of her constituents and he had a right to ask any question he wanted, and it was Shea-Porter’s obligation to listen to him. The Democrats better start worrying, because I think a lot of them are going to get voted out of office next year.

  • KB

    Thanks for the posting. Porter needs to go. She only had the town hall meeting after she was widely critized for “phoning in” her town hall meetings. Both her and Rep. Paul Hodes were sending out emails trying to pump the phone-ins but folks weren’t buying it. She had to go public which is so low brow for her now that she’s a DC bigshot. As far as I know, Hodes hasn’t had anything but the phone ins. Guess he doesn’t want to face his constituents either. They both need to go!

    • Katmoon

      Doncha just miss the good old days of offering these coward politicians some “free form salad” from the voters? Now, one would be arrested for terrorist activities for tossing a too ripe tomato onto the lovely suited ones. I totally get the throwing of shoes now.

    • Nellie

      KB – agree whole heartedly.

      Hodes is not a NH native and it shows in his actions.

      Is Carol Shea-Porter a native? If not where is she from?

  • Ferd Berfle

    RRRA: I have taken the time lately to ponder the Administration of That One. I thought, once upon a time, that while I wouldn’t support him in any way, he could not do too much damage because he was such a neophyte with delusions of grandeur and an insatiable thirst for adoration, that his time would be completely occupied with his own self-aggrandizement. I knew he would do a lot of off-gassing as any bloated plutocrat would do, but it would amount to nothing. What I didn’t understand was the depths to which his supporters, including politicians, would stoop to intimidate us into believing, and indoctrinating us in, the “new” ways, those which create a complete break with past practices. This is the same sort of brain-washing that occurred during Mao’s, Lenin’s, and Hitler’s takeover of their respective countries. It was the minions who did the heavy lifting, all for their “leader”. I’m not talking here about ragtag countries such as Afghanistan but civilizations. The Chinese civilization is as old as the Egyptians. The Russians and Germans, while not around as long certainly had a long history.

    As far as I can tell, all it really takes to create complete havoc is a few malcontents with an attitude of entitlement following a person who can pull the wool over the collective eyes of a discontented populace to change history. I do so hope that we aren’t the next country to fall victim to an impostor.

    • Arabella Trefoil

      hee hee. “out-gassing” I love it!

      Seriously, I’m in total agreeance with you, Fred. I feel the same way.

  • Ferd Berfle

    As long as we’re speaking to the issue of turnabout, the biting off of the finger of a member of the loyal opposition by an obamabot means that we now have a new moniker for them–cannibals or finger-eaters. That works quite nicely for me. When they come here, they’re trolling for fingers.

    It really brings an entirely new meaning to the story of the Three Billy-Goats Gruff.

    • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      I could not BELIEVE that story, Ferd! Isn’t that just mind boggling? What is WRONG with these people?!?!

      I can’t believe this is the party to which I belonged for many, may years. And I was a member of MoveOn.org, too. Glad I got out before the whole finger biting thing…

      Great comments, folks – I am too tired to do them justice now, but I’ll check back in tomorrow morning! Good night, all!

  • Obamastolemycountry

    Do you think she knows that people voted her in, and they can vote her out?

    I truly want to believe that we can get them out, but I do fear all the big money they are giving to ACORN, SEIU, and HCAN. The civilian army is growing and going to for darn sure be as well funded as the military, per Obama. What if the elections are rigged? I’m not so sure that they haven’t been rigged since 2000 and I’m not even so sure that Obama won in 2008. tin foil hat time, maybe, but I have never known so many people opposed to Obama, who didn’t vote for him, before. In the past, I’d know about 50-50 dem repub. In ’08 I’d say people were 95% against the dem of all the peopel I knew and I just am not so sure we control our elections anymore, if we ever did. I’ll still vote, that is for sure, and pray that it truly is the will of the voters, but I think we better work really hard starting yesterday to shut ACORN down, and/or stop their influx of cash from stimulus packages, etc. And we for darn sure better get these nuts out of the census. We are running out of time if we want our country back sooner rather than later!

    • tzada

      I fear the voting machines from Chevez country

  • johninca

    I think it’s time to coin a new term for finger-biting fanatics. How about “digitivorous“?

    • Tammy

      I think that Obamabot was just hungry.
      And he found some finger food.

  • Betty

    I tried to find out when MN Rep. Betty McCullum was going to hold a town hall meeting. I watched her web site and called repeatedly. Her web site told where she was and what she did yesterday but never where she was going to be tomorrow or next week. Her people aways acted dumb about her schedule, dumb and cagey, I told them that for that very reason I would freeze in hell before I would vote for Betty McCullum again.

    Then I went on line and joined an Acorn group and sure enough in less then a week I got an email telling me that Betty McCullum was going to hold a town hall at Macalester College which started at 6 or 7. And we “acorns” should all get there by 4 at least, and as many as possible get inside so our voice won’t be drown out.

    I agree with Obamastolemycountry, we just have to find a way to shut Acorn down.

    • Kathy

      What a telling story! Thanks for sharing that experience. It speaks volumes!

  • Portia Elizabeth

    I moved to New Hampshire in the summer of 2007. I had never done more for a candidate than put up a yard sign and donate a few dollars. But I was excited to be living in a state reknowned for its up-close-and-personal level of political involvement. I looked forward to the campaigning since it meant the chance to meet the people who wanted to run our government. For the first time in my adult life I was proud of politics in my country.

    The intensity of the presidential campaign amazed and bewildered me. (I still have a recorded message of Hillary Clinton saved on my answering machine.)I attended several town halls and rallies and was enthralled at the way the process played out in tiny NH. I was drawn in and before I knew it, I was a Clinton supporter who wrote letters, made phone calls, held signs and donated as much as I could.

    After Hillary won NH, I nearly fell over when I heard Carol Shea-Porter endorse That One. WTF? Her district (my district) had voted for Hillary and she was endorsing BO? I’ve had no respect for her since and was not surprised when the local news here showed that town hall meeting. I’ll certainly do whatever I can to oust her when reelection time comes. She was one of the reasons I stayed a registered Dem — just to be effective in getting rid of her sorry ass.

    I was one of the people who participated in our Senator Jean Shaheen’s telephone town hall meeting. What a farce! I’m convinced the only reason I was called to join in was that I’m a registered Dem who’d donated. Of course the tele-town halls prevent any follow-up questions and eliminate that pesky little problem of dissent or protests.

    I’m still proud to live in New Hampshire and I still plan to actively participate in the political climate here. I’ve learned quite a bit and I’ll be ready when the next big election rolls into my town.

    Live free or die is not just a suggestion.

    • Nellie

      Welcome to the Granite State Portia.

      And you are right:

      Live free or die is not just a suggestion

      It is a way of life. Enjoy!

      • Portia Elizabeth

        Thank you, Nellie! It’s a great place to live!

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Oh, Amy, thank you for spotlighting our state! In spite of the liberal overflow from Massachusetts who want to live here and avoid high taxes, there are still plenty of folks here who have common sense.

  • Patrick

    This afternoon, Shea-Porter spokesman Jamie Radice released a statement from Lt. William Barry of the of the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office, who escorted Tomanelli out of the Manchester meeting at the Norris Cotton federal building.

    In his statement, Barry said that Shea-Porter had no role in having Tomanelli taken out of the meeting.

    Barry said he was at the federal building meeting “helping out with security for the Federal Protection Service.”

    He said a protection service official had cautioned the audience that anyone who became disruptive would be asked to leave the meeting and explained that those with raffle tickets to speak would be “drawn randomly to ask questions.”

    According to Barry’s statement, “Towards the end of the meeting, Mr. Carl Tomanelli was escorted out of the meeting. Mr. Tomanelli was very disruptive throughout the meeting and was told repeatedly to quiet down. He continuously interrupted people who were asking questions or making statements that he didn’t agree with.

    “At no time did Representative Shea-Porter advise an officer to escort Mr. Tomanelli from the building.”

    • Nellie

      Patrick,

      And since when does a politician in NH need the Federal Protection Service?

      Carol Shea-Porter has become a DC crook and she has to go. And I for one have some info I will be sending to Jeb Bradly, who despite his flaws at least accepts questions from NH people.

    • Portia Elizabeth

      If she had no part, then why was she pointing to him and indicating him?

      And who were the folks who got tickets to speak?

      And why wasn’t everyone permitted to speak if they wanted to?

      Sounds rigged to me.

  • helenk

    2010 the Project Runway Year ” your out”
    They can not fix all the elections and we can change congress in 2010.
    Investigate all who run as independents. Check out their platforms and positions. If they are standing up for the good of the country vote for them and volunteer for them and contribute to them.
    There are more and more independent voters as people are waking up to what a mess Washington has become.
    Both the democratic and republican parties suck right now and both parties forgot who they were elected to represent.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

    • helenk

      After I wrote this comment, I found out about the merger and one company owning all the voting machines.

      maybe they can fix all the elections

      WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

      PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • helenk

    http://www.soldierforhillary.com/2009/09/03/kids-inspired-by-hope/

    I was taught in high school just how easy it would be to lose democracy. This was during the 1950s. We learned about the Nazi youth organizations and the communists brainwashing children.

    It is not only conservatives who are concerned with backtrack’s speech to the school children on 9/8.
    Every American should be concerned.

    Give my the youth of your country and I will have your country.

    Every day I am watching my country turn into something that is so against the principles by which it was founded.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

    • Lou Filliger

      Seems like I can never get on the right side of things, but I’m a conservative who actually has no problem with Obama talking to school children. And I don’t care what he says, either. If parents in this country did a good job of educating their own children at home (in addition to school) and taught their children how to think critically, then they would have nothing to fear. This whole outcry against the Obama talk is nothing more than a mass admission of fear that they’ve done lousy jobs as parents. I always exposed my kids to the most radical opinions from both sides from an early age. They are 23 and 19 now and have their heads on straight in a MAJOR way. Now I’m going to go back to sounding more like a conservative, and observe: If the conservatives in this country don’t want their kids subjected to socialist doctrine, don’t send them to public schools. You know, the teachers unions are made up of teachers, after all…

  • helenk

    http://susiemadrak.com/2009/09/03/18/33/and-by-the-way-2/

    This is something the public should be made aware of and be able to discuss.

    due to merger one company owns all the voting machines.

    does not sound like a good thing to me

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • tzada

    NakedEmperorNews: Van Jones: “Green Jobs” Goal is “Complete Revolution” Away From “Gray Capitalism”

    Naked Emperor News strikes again by finding revealing clips of an interview conducted by “Uprising Radio” with Van Jones seventeen months ago. Jones, the green jobs czar, explains how his allies want to conduct a revolution on the sly. Call it radical incrementalism, call it an offshoot of the Alinksy method, but it certainly seems that Jones is easily the most radical White House aide in many, many years:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/03/video-van-jones-and-revolution/

    http://www.nakedemperornews.com/

  • Patience

    For the sake of argument, I’m trying to figure out who the ejected ex-cop Tomanelli’s question was referring to. Was he asking the Congresswoman if SHE was from NH or was he asking if one of the other participants at the townhall was from NH? I watched both videos and couldn’t really tell. So, can any of the NH residents here clarify it for me?

    The reason I ask is, if his question was about one of the other participants, it seems perfectly justified in light of what we’ve been learning about other townhalls, i.e., astroturf supporters being transported by busloads AND given preferential treatment as far as seating, etc. But if his question was directed at Rep. Shea-Porter who’s obviously a legal resident of NH, I can understand how it could’ve been considered disruptive.

    • Patience

      BTW, I also watched the video for which Nellie provided the link and still couldn’t tell.

  • KB

    Nellie-Porter was born in NYC but graduated from Oyster River in Durham. I don’t know how many years she spent in NY before moving to NH.

  • EWard

    Patience

    He was asking the question of the “Obama” clones in the audience. Carol Shea Porter is a disgrace! Vote her out…..

  • Tricia Spiegel

    This is sad for me for two reasons: (1) I wanted to think that women would be far more resposnive to people’s needs if they only had a chance at higher offices, and (2) I admired Porter for her shoe-string campaign that worked. I think she spent less money (and had no debt) than any House candidate in 2008. I was hoping to see her as a major role model for the future—sigh.

  • Sassy

    I am ready to rant!
    This country needs a president who is humble enough and courageous enough to respect it’s citizens.
    This country needs to stop bailing out on those who risk everything to defend us.
    This country needs to import jobs and export illegals.
    This country needs to put Congress on an allowance.
    This country needs both misers and deadbeats to leave for they are crushing the middle.
    This country needs to refuse to allow racists in the White House, Congress, and the media to segregate it again.
    This country needs to ponder the official response to Katrina before allowing our entire healthcare system to drown.
    Thank you. I’ll show myself out!

    • oowawa

      Well, the next time I get to fill out a ballot, I’m gonna write in “Sassy!”

  • ford

    I hail from NH now as well. I was on the Seacoast for the primary fight, and it was great.. I was SHOCKED when Porter, and most of the PEA (Phillips Exeter Academy)elite dumped Hil for BO… it made no sense except that BO( and the MSM) were throwing money, and smears.

    The women over here should be hanging their heads in shame.

    The Clintons are very popular here. I will be helping Shea Porter out the door next year…count on it. I will drink 2 shots at the time of her defeat. One for me, and one for Hillary.

    Live free or die is more than a slogan in New Hampshire.